1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Ron and an Ian think about a car, think about 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: the complexity of a car, the electronics that go into 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: a car. I never really appreciate it until this moment, 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: this magic the Car Doctor, where you shut the engine 5 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: off the windows would work okay, So what it's telling 6 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: me is that we've probably got a bad ground or 7 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: a corrosion somewhere in a connector. Welcome to the radio 8 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: home of Ron and Anian the Car Doctor, since this 9 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: is where car owners the world overturned to for their 10 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you 11 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: a busy signal, pick up the phone and call in 12 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: the garage to orders are open, but I am here 13 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: to take your call at eight five six one nine 14 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: and now running. Hey, welcome, it's time to start your engines. 15 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: And if they don't stick around for the next hour, 16 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: I'm mornin in the Car Doctor, and we're here at 17 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: eight five five five zero nine nine zero zero to 18 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: talk about your car and everything that might be going 19 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: right or wrong with it, whatever the case might be. 20 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: We've we've been here for the past two I don't 21 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,559 Speaker 1: know twenty six plus years and talking to you about 22 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: automotive that's what this radio show likes to do. That's 23 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: what I like to do during the during the weekend, 24 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: during the week I'm I'm one of those mechanics that 25 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 1: everybody loves to hate. And um, you know, just here 26 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: fixing your car. So but that's what this show is about. 27 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: If you've got a question, you've got a problem, give 28 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: us a quality five five zero nine nine zero zero 29 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: last hour and um we we you know, we just 30 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: finished our our our first hour for this weekend. Um, 31 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: last hour we were talking about oil and oil filters 32 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: and um, all things that that entails. Tom, did you 33 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: have a question or you know, you just said you're 34 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: the mechanic that everybody loves to hate. And I just 35 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: want to know that, Tony and I just plan hate you. 36 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: So you know, it's not problem. It's it's it's it's 37 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: an equal an equal opportunity offender. And there you go. 38 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: See that's why, that's why we like you so much. Now, 39 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: you see, everybody, it's in Tom's contract that he has 40 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: to get on the air at least once a week 41 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: and it makes him feel good because then he can 42 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: puff out his chest and say, although I have to 43 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: tell you, Tom doesn't need to puff out his chest 44 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: as chest as Um. Without him, we wouldn't be here. 45 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 1: He can get us on the air with a juice 46 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: canon a string in the middle of the Sahara desert. 47 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: And I've said that many a time. Um. And we're 48 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: gonna write the book together when you retire, right Tom, 49 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: When we retire, Tom and I are going to write 50 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: a book about episodes and of self syndicating a radio 51 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: show and with the things we've been through. And there 52 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: are things that people just won't believe, and they're gonna say, 53 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: you're making it up. Oh no, we lived in so 54 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: and it always sounded good the things that go on 55 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: behind the scenes, So you know it's all there. Um. 56 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 1: Last hour, I was talking. We had our last call 57 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: the last hour about extended oil changes, and I didn't 58 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 1: get a chance to finish. Well, it's fresh on my mind. 59 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: I just want to comment we are headed towards extended 60 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: oil drain intervals, absolutely positively. The industry wants it, the 61 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: public wants it. I don't know if mechanics want it. 62 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: When I say the industry at the manufacturers wanted the 63 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: government wants it. So it's going to be here. It's 64 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: here now. But it's going to be expanded further. Uh, 65 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: you know, conversations this week with with several individuals. The 66 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: twenty thousand mile oil drain interval is coming. You can 67 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: see it. I can already see the problems with it. 68 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: Um So suffice it to say that if you are 69 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: using a filter and oil rated for that mileage, and 70 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: in my mind, it's got to be rated for that 71 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 1: mileage in a little bit more. I was always taught 72 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: the ten percent rule. You know, if enough is good, 73 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: more is better, and too much is just enough. You 74 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: want to have a little bit more. The biggest problem 75 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: I've got isn't Charlie, our caller from the last hour, 76 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: set it ten thousand miles on his Toyota camera. He 77 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't have anybody look at the car for a year. 78 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: So what's gonna happen? What's gonna happen with tp M 79 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: S lights? You know we we with with changes in temperature. 80 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: Charlie lived in Maine. What's gonna happen with changes in temperature? 81 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: When the temperature goes up, the temperature goes down, the 82 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: TPM mess light's gonna go on, It's gonna go off, 83 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: It's gonna vary he's gonna be playing with changing tire 84 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: pressure all the time, and how is that going to 85 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: affect it? And yeah, I know, I get it. Somebody's 86 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: gonna say, well, he'll put nitrogen in. Nitrogen is only 87 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: good for so much and that's not gonna help it 88 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: all by itself. So you know, I can see. I 89 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: can see the extended oil drain interval, but I can 90 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: also see people paying mechanics for an in between service. Okay, 91 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: I'm ready for my three thousand mile under the hood 92 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: fluid check, filter check and tire pressure check and paying 93 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: for that as a result, because that service used to 94 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: be part of an oil change and by going to 95 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: these longer drain intervals, we're taking that out. So just 96 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: just something to think about, because nothing's for free. It 97 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: doesn't work that way. By the way, this week I 98 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: signed up and if anybody out there is on this website, 99 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: Bob is the oil guide dot com. Um. Evidently some 100 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: of my comments have raised some ire with some of 101 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: the attendees, and UM, I signed in. I logged in, 102 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: so I'll be out there trying to get some education 103 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: as they told me I needed. And UM, but then again, 104 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: I'm full of myself so I'm not really quite sure. 105 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: You know, we'll just do what well. Tony and I 106 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: have comments, but we'll reserve them. This is a family radio, 107 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: full of myself and you have an ego, but that's 108 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: beside the point. I just wanted to make the comment, 109 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: you know, about the oil change intervals and such. My 110 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: my daughter is you know, she doesn't she doesn't drive 111 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: very far. She goes to work, she comes home, and 112 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: the other night it was like, oh my god, the 113 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: tire pressure censor light came on. And I took the 114 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: opportunity to educate her because, let's face it, the last 115 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: time the oil was changed was back around Christmas time. 116 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: It was an our automotive. She doesn't have that much 117 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: miloge on it right now, and I, very bluntly have 118 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: been busy the last three months. I haven't been paying attention. 119 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: So I took the opportunity to teach her how to 120 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: check the oil pressure, are oil pressure the tire pressure, 121 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: teach her how to take care of the tires, teach 122 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: her how to pressurize them properly, told her to look 123 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: at them about once every couple of weeks. And you 124 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: know who's who's doing that with their kids? Well, and 125 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 1: and the problem become on the longer drain interval. Who's 126 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: going to do that now on on a one year 127 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: or two or three year old car that works? The 128 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: car isn't good enough condition. The rims don't leak, fluid 129 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 1: leaks don't occur. That works. I've got a two thousand 130 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 1: three Tahoe. I'm gonna tell this story. I'm not supposed to, 131 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna. I got a two thousand three Tahoe 132 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: in the shop this week. It's got a hundred forty 133 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: eight thousand miles on it. Show a hands how many 134 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: people out there on a Chevy Tahoe? Right, There's about 135 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: a gazillion of them, all right, so there's three four 136 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: thousand if you want to be more accurate. There's a 137 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 1: bunch of them on the road, a bunch of them 138 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: like this one. Rotted out the brake line, the fuel line. 139 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: We're repairing it. We replaced the long fuel line over 140 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: the top of the trans We're replacing all the brake 141 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: lines on the car. Welcome to the world, the GM 142 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: This is what they do. You have to lower the 143 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: gas tank to get to the brake lines. Lower the 144 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: gas tank. Gee. While we've got it out. I said 145 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: to Tom, the customer, I said, Tom, why don't we 146 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: put a fuel pump in it? The top lock ring 147 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: holding the fuel pump down is so badly rusted, I'm 148 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: afraid I need a technis shot standing next to the thing. 149 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: All right, and let's get the fuel pump out of 150 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: the way. It's gonna be the price of the part. 151 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: It's not going to be the labor all over again. 152 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: He said, yeah, you're right, Order fuel pump. Get a 153 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: fuel pump. Go to take the locker ring off. The 154 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: locker ring is so badly rusted to the tank that 155 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: using a hand chisel after soaking it all right, just 156 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: using a hand chisel, tap, tap, tap, it just disintegrates 157 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: and falls into a into a million pieces. Now I 158 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: need a tank, called up General Motors. Oh, a fuel 159 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: tank for a two thousand three Taha, that's obsolete. You 160 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: can't get one of those anymore. Really, well, there's gotta 161 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: be one around, used called all around, used trying to 162 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: find one. Nobody's got one. One guy had one and 163 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: had one of three of them. There's four lock tabs 164 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: up top. It had one broken off. I could put 165 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: three while I've already got something that bad. I don't 166 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: need another one. My point is this, we are so 167 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: fixated on the extended oil drain interval. It doesn't matter 168 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: the manufacturers are gonna force to get rid of the 169 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: cars in seven to eight years anyway, because they're gonna 170 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: stop make parts for it. And that's the bigger problem. 171 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: You guys gotta wake up and smell the coffee. We're 172 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: more we're more concerned with oil drain intervals. With the 173 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: President paid for taxes fifteen years ago and everything else. 174 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: Then you know the hard realities of you want to 175 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: get a car to last longer, take care of it, 176 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: maintain it, check the tires on a regular basis, check 177 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: the fluid levels on a regular basis, change the trans fluid, 178 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: the brake fluid service to drive line, look at the 179 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: belts and hoses. Yeah, even on a newer car, things happen. 180 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: It doesn't hurt to have an eye under the hood. 181 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: You still gotta do maintenance. An oil drain interval seems 182 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: to have people thinking that they're free. All I think 183 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: about is, you know, I'm free. I'm free. I don't 184 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: have to do anything anymore, and you don't. You don't 185 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: have to do anything until the car stops, and then 186 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a more expensive, bigger repair bill. Again, 187 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: I'm with it, all right. You want to drain the oil, 188 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: you know, on a longer interval. Make sure you've got 189 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: a rated filter. Make sure you've got rated oil. Make 190 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: sure you're checking the oil on a regular basis. It's 191 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: like nine three all over again, family vacation. Every time 192 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: my dad stopped, we checked the oil. I remember that. 193 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: How many people remember that? You're gonna have you. We're 194 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: heading back in that direction, and um, I just want 195 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: to make him aware. And for the guys on Bob's 196 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 1: the Oil guy dot com, I'll be there. Look for me. 197 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: Five zero nine nine zero zero. Let's pull over and 198 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: take a pause. We'll return after that to open up 199 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: the phone lines, which are really backed up. We're really 200 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: gonna rock and roll this hour, so stick around. I'm 201 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: ronding in the car doctor. Hey, welcome back. We're on 202 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: any of the car doctor zero nine zero zero. Let's 203 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: get over to Lisa from Minnesota one fifty and some 204 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 1: problems with an oil pressure gage. Lisa, welcome to the 205 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 1: car doctor. How can I help? All right, Well, I'm 206 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: hoping you can help. UM this is uh Ford F 207 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: one fifty, and it didn't have a good engine in 208 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: it when I bought it. I bought it knowing that 209 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: my mechanic and seen this car before, so I asked 210 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: him if this truck was worth putting a new engine in, 211 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: and he said yes. So this is the third engine. 212 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: He had to go down to the Twin Cities and 213 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: buy this one himself. By the way, both of you 214 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: are priceless. Anyway, There's there's one little odd ball thing 215 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: he cannot fix because he says all he could figure 216 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: out is we got to find an old truck with 217 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: the right part. He called it a valve resistor. So 218 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 1: I'm wondering if maybe there's a way to bypass this. 219 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:33,359 Speaker 1: It goes under, it goes under the food. It's uh 220 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: a little little tiny rectangular looking thing with two holes 221 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: in the sides. Then it's got two connectors, a male 222 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: and a female coming off of each side. It looks 223 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: kind of like the thing I plugged my computer into. 224 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: Are you talking about a ballast resistor. I'm not sure 225 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: if it's a ballast resistor or what, but I was 226 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: told it's a resistor and without it, the oil gauge 227 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: always reads high oil pressure even though my oil pressure 228 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: is normal? Where where where is this part? Lisa? Where's it? Look? 229 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 1: It's it's located under the hood. Is it part of 230 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: the wiring harness? It's under the hood somewhere near the 231 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: engine block. The little the little boxy thing melted. Okay, 232 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: now you're you're not. I took a picture of it. 233 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: I still have the piece at home, and and it's 234 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 1: there's not much to it, Like, can you post can 235 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: you put tom tom? Can she post on the Facebook page? 236 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: She has the authority to do that, Lisa, can you 237 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: post it up on the Ronanini in the Car Doctor 238 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: Facebook page so we can get a picture of it. 239 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: I probably could, but not right now. I'm not home. Yeah, no, No, 240 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: when you're home, and then I'll look at it over 241 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: the weekend and I'll get back to you on on Facebook. 242 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: Has that sound just so just so I know what 243 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: I'm dealing with, because if it's an and it's not, 244 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: this isn't the piece that screws into the engine, right, 245 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: This isn't the oil pressure center itself. It's got a 246 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: male and a female plug just and and they're about 247 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: the same size. Like I said, the wire I used 248 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,719 Speaker 1: to plug my speaker into my computer. Okay, okay, I'm 249 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure listen, I'm sure it can be I'm sure 250 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: it can be replicated. Uh, you know, there's an I'm 251 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: sure there's ways out there to create and put an 252 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 1: oil pressure gauge in this. You know what, there's guys 253 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: out there. If if we're restoring clusters on seventy two 254 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: monty Carlos and trucks and everything else, I'm sure there's 255 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: a way to replicate this. Uh. You know. The other possibility. 256 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: What I've learned is I'm going through the Monte Carlo 257 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: repair is just Google search eight seven f one fifty 258 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: oil pressure gauge repair and see what comes up as 259 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: if anybody's providing after market parts or source for it. 260 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: You know, it's thank God for the Internet. You couldn't 261 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: restore a car without it anymore. But let me get 262 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 1: a picture. Let me let me see a picture of this, 263 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: and I can give you better information on what it 264 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: is you're looking for. Whether it's something you know, maybe 265 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: you could find that at Orilly Auto Parts, or maybe 266 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: it's going to be something that you've got to go 267 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 1: to the obsolete Ford place in Ohio. I think it's 268 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: green Ford's green Ford. Let me think about this, green 269 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: Ford Parts dot Com. If I remember correctly, they carry obsolete, 270 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: they carry obsolete forward stuff. And he was the one 271 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 1: who told me it was obsolete. Yeah, if it's obsolete 272 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: green I think it's green Ford Parts dot Com. They 273 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: were in Ohio, if memory serves me correct. If you 274 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: just Google search obsolete Ford Parts, obsolete Ford Parts or 275 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 1: green Ford, it will come up and um, you can 276 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: find it that way. And we've we've talked about them 277 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: over the years and everybody seems to be happy with them. 278 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: They tend to have everything they buy dealer clothes out 279 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: and they tend to hang on to older stuff, um 280 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: a lot longer everybody else. Alright, alright, great that that 281 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: that helps me out a lot. And I'd like to 282 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: say one of the real quick thing though, before I go, 283 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: I've gone. I'm sharing you talk about kids today. I've 284 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: got four kids before they left home. Every one of 285 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 1: them rotated their own tires and knows where every fluid 286 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: goes under tho wood and how to check it. And 287 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: thank God for mom because Mom manimus drong independent person. 288 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: And that's what it's all about, right, you know, it's 289 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: it's and that's I've got a daughter who told me 290 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: the skills have come in handy already because she's been 291 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: out in the middle of nowhere and had a flat 292 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 1: tire and had to change it herself, had no cell 293 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: phone signal. And you know what, we're worried about our 294 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: kids coming out of high school and they don't know 295 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: how to balance a check book, much less than how 296 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: to change a tire or when an oil change is doing. 297 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: We've made them so much less self sufficient than we 298 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: have kids in the past. And um, you know what, 299 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: being tough on your kids is the hardest thing a 300 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: parent ever has to do, and it's it's it pays 301 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: off in the long one. So Lisa, Lisa, I want 302 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: to wish you the best, and you have give yourself 303 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: a good weekend. You post that picture and I'll do 304 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: what I can to help you and we'll get this 305 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: thing resolved, all right, all right, thank you very much, 306 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: You're very welcome. You take good care. Let's get on 307 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: over and talk to Jeff from Pennsylvania with an old 308 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: one Saturday and some problems with the way the car runs. Jeff, 309 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor, sir. How can I help. Okay, 310 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: good afternoon, thanks for taking my call. You uh uh 311 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: step on the accelerator and uh the carp ms will 312 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: drop off down below two and sometimes one in the 313 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: car will go real slow and when you go up 314 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: a hill or even a slight grade, the car will 315 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: stall when you uh, you can restart it right after 316 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: this happens, but then it'll just keep doing the same thing. 317 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: If you leave the car shut off for a while 318 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: a few minutes and then restarted, you can drive down 319 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: the road a short distance, but then it'll start doing 320 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: again back. I don't know if it was at the 321 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: end of January February when it first started happening, it 322 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: didn't happen too often. Uh you would even uh you know, 323 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: drive it just keeps restarting, and then they would pull 324 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: out of this problem and it wouldn't do it, you know, 325 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: for many miles you can drive it before it would 326 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: happen again. But now it's happening more frequently, to the 327 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: point where I can't even get about a mile from 328 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: my house or just a couple of blocks it starts happening. 329 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: Is it a heat related problem? Is it more likely 330 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: to happen when the vehicle's warmed up, or will it 331 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: do it when it's cold? Also, it'll do it when 332 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: it's cold. Also, you know, just call a couple of 333 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: blocks when I had just started it, and it will 334 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: start doing anything. But it won't do it right out 335 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: of the driveway. You still have to go those couple 336 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: of blocks. Yes, okay. And what's anybody done to diagnose it? 337 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: Or has anybody attempted a diagnose I took it to 338 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: where I have it serviced, and they did Uh. They 339 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: checked the electrical system. Uh, they said that that that's 340 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: not the problem. They did an engine diagnostic on it, 341 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: and they said that they couldn't find anything. They said 342 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: it wasn't a computer code problem or anything like. Okay, 343 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: so let me ask you this. Did they did they 344 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: duplicate the problem when they ran their diagnostic? Uh? No, 345 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: far as I know, they didn't. Even they even I 346 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: took it there three times for the same problem. Uh. 347 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: The third time they test drove it before they even 348 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: worked on it for They said they drove it for 349 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: fifteen miles and it didn't happen to them. So so, 350 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: so it's an intermittent dying out problem? Or is it 351 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: every time you do that. It has had started happening 352 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: more frequently. Uh, and uh, they thought maybe what would 353 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: help they they change the oxygen sensor on it. Uh. 354 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: And they also did change the idle motor on and 355 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: they thought maybe that would solve the problem. But it hasn't. So, 356 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it sounds like they're they're well, 357 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to judge anybody, but it 358 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: doesn't sound like they're really good at diagnosic diagnosing. Uh, 359 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: you know, first rule, all right, and the way this 360 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: has to be explained, this is no different than going 361 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: to the doctor, Jeff, you know, Jeff, we can't duplicate 362 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: the problem. Here's our best educated guests or you know, 363 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: we've done some research. There's a bunch of sources out 364 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: there for mechanics today for pattern failures and commonalities. And 365 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: here's what the top three rated fixes are. And they're 366 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: all under twos. Which one do you want to guess at? 367 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a bunch of ways to go here. 368 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: I can tell you the most common pattern failure. All right, 369 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: it's sort of common knowledge for these cars, you know, 370 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: and obviously I'm I'm I'm jumping ahead. You know, are 371 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: the battery cables clean and tight. I always look at 372 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 1: battery cables and everything I diagnose is the alternator charging correctly. 373 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 1: I always double check the alternator. You'd be surprised what 374 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: an alternator can do today. Last, you know, the most 375 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: common failure crank position sensor. They get a little bit warm. 376 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: The more they warm up, the more they'll cause. The 377 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: failure with the mechanic will typically see is either lack 378 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: of injector pulse, lack of spark or both. So it's 379 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 1: a matter of if they can duplicate the problem and 380 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: either that or scope the crank sensor and watch it fail. 381 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: Chances are they can end up wanting to put a 382 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: crank sensor and make sure they use something O E 383 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: level quality because they are a known problem out in 384 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 1: the industry. Try that, call me back. I'm our nating. 385 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: The card doctor will return right after this. That's right, 386 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: that's me. I just want to bang on the drum 387 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: all day or anating the card doctorate five zero nine 388 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: nine zero zero wouldn't be nice of all you how 389 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:00,719 Speaker 1: to do is just bang on the drum all day 390 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: and didn't have to fix cars. Actually, I'd be bored. 391 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: I love fixing cars. That's what I do. Let's get 392 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: over and talk to him. Let's see if we can 393 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: fix his O H Chevy Silverado some problems with the 394 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: brake lights. Tim, How are things up there in Flint, 395 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 1: Michigan this afternoon? What's going on? Oh? The cloudy is 396 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: cloudy and rainy. Yeah, so I think that's headed our 397 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 1: way to New Jersey. So we're kind of looking forward 398 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: to it if it turns into snow. I got the 399 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: plow on the big truck. I'm ready to go. What's cooking, kiddo? 400 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: Two years ago? About this Chevy truck break truck? And uh, 401 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 1: long story short, I put on the brake pedal at 402 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: that time. The brake lights have come on and then 403 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: go and then go off, and even when I hold 404 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: my foot on the pedal, Okay, So there, okay. And 405 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: so what I figured out I got online looking reading 406 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 1: and I figured it out. It was a brake switch. 407 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: No big deal, brake switch. Put it on. Problem solved. 408 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: A year later, I am going down the highway. My 409 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: wife's behind me. She says, here, your foot on the 410 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: break No, all your brake lights are on, you know, 411 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: bregular place the third black lighter on the cab. Huh 412 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: soide just tap the break it went off. Kind of 413 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: kind of reverse problem in a way. Uh. I start 414 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: the book online again, I thought, man, because that switch 415 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,479 Speaker 1: go bad in the year, which, yeah, I can I know. 416 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: But I ran across something online and I said, the 417 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: rod between the switch and the master cylinder needs to 418 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: be adjusted. That's my main question. Is that adjustable rod? 419 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: Is that? Would you over the phone gas? That could 420 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: be another switch, which I already bought one before I'm 421 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: gonna put it on. I thought I'd try to run 422 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: to buy you and see what you thought about a 423 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: rod adjustment. Well, I would say no, because I'd want 424 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: to know what changed? Did something change? Now? What what 425 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 1: engines in this? Tim? Give me some backup information? Is 426 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: this is this a five three or six oh five three? 427 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: And is this hydro boost or is this a vacuum 428 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: power booster vacuum? Okay, you know something's got to change 429 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: there for that to happen. And you know I don't 430 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: buy that. The brake light switch that's on this is 431 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: it a traditional push pull switch? No? This is the 432 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: type with a little finger that sticks down. Which one 433 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: is It's a The ride comes from the firewall and 434 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: then it's a switch and then just to plug you know, 435 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: a ten millimeter bold and on the pedal. Okay, so 436 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: the rod goes where into the switch? Uh? Yeah, well 437 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: rod bolts to the brake pedal and then the switch 438 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: broke bolts of the brake pedal off. So to hold it, 439 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: I guess and which and the switch has a plunger 440 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: on it that you step on the pedal, it releases 441 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: the plunger out of the switch body. Yeah, I guess, 442 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: I guess. Yeah, I don't think an old school plunder, 443 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: but it has a where the rod hits a piece 444 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: on the switch itself. It's not really a plunder, is 445 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: just a guess you know, like like your too like 446 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: your two fingers pointing straight down. It just catches in 447 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: between a piece of steel and that's what triggers it, right, right, 448 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: This is a This is if you took that old 449 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: switch off, it would actually spin three quarters of the 450 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: way around and then nap back. Correct. Yeah, this is 451 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: this is This is really neat stuff. This is what 452 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: they're doing is they're they're looking at the acceleration rate 453 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: of your foot to help judge in a panic situation. 454 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: They're looking at UM it's a break light switch. UM. 455 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: I think of it as a break light switch. Potentially 456 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 1: oometer they're looking at, you know, rate of pedal application 457 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: to help make decisions in regard to other things, abs control, 458 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: traction control, that type of thing. It's not a simple 459 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: on off brake light switch anymore. There is actually a 460 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: bulletin from GM dated August fourteenth, on my birthday, two 461 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: thousand nine. That's how I remember this one UM bulletin 462 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: O A double oh three A where the brake lights 463 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: turn off after the pedals applaud. All right, and that happens. 464 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: That's what happened first, right, that was the first problem. 465 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: And they've they've actually released at the time, they released 466 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: a new switch to correct that. Now, where did you 467 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: get your replacement switch from? Okay, do you remember the 468 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 1: part number or do you know the part number? Yes? 469 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: I do. I have it right here. I talked about 470 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: it this morning and I even looked on the build 471 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: date or make data. However you want to say it 472 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: one zero zero nine because that was the number back 473 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: on the bulletin from two thousand nine. It was it 474 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: was the on nines. I remember this. UM, I'm sorry. 475 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: Six toward the package you didn't open, all right, right, 476 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 1: this just just just write this part number down. Just 477 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: make sure the part number you have cross references to 478 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: the part number that you that you purchased. What I'm 479 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: saying is, if that replacement switch that you bought a 480 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: year ago was was old stock, you may have a 481 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 1: problem here because you may have it, you may have 482 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: an older switch, you may have something else. Just let's 483 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: start with a correct switch. One double oh nine is 484 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: what's on the bulletin from two thousand nine, all right, 485 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: And I'm sure the way General Motors supersedes part numbers. 486 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's superseded twelve times, and it's it could 487 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 1: very well be the switch you have in your hand, 488 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 1: but I want to make sure of that, all right. 489 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: You know that's you know, so that's yeah, that's probably 490 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: the most current. When the dealer looked it up, did 491 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,239 Speaker 1: they take your vin that they look it up by 492 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: vent or by your make model? Okay, Um, just double 493 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: check it, because I still like to look a lot 494 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 1: of my parts up by you know then, and they 495 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: would need the last eight digits of the vent to 496 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: do that. And I'm surprised. I'm surprised that a dealership 497 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: parts department. They didn't ask you what the VIN was 498 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 1: in order to do this, So I would just verify 499 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: that and and just make certain you've got the right switch. 500 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 1: That being said, I would start with the switch. Switches 501 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: are still very common. You know what, I could I 502 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: could bore you guys for the next two hours with 503 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: conversations about new del call parts that I put in 504 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: new means never ever worked, and sure enough they didn't. 505 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I'm still battling with Delco over 506 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: a few things, and I've I've taken a not a 507 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: bad view of Delco, but a judgmental view of Delco 508 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: in the last year that I'm questioning some of their stuff. 509 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 1: It just doesn't seem to work. It's not what it 510 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: once was. So I don't feel about aftermarket, uh you know, 511 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: all Riley, US advance, all that kind of you know what, 512 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: I'm starting to open my mind to it because I'm 513 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,479 Speaker 1: seeing cases in situations like this where heck, I had 514 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: a Delco ignition switch in a in an OH seven 515 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 1: Chevy Trailblazer a couple of months back. I talked about 516 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 1: it here on air, where the Delco switch kept having 517 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: repeated failures put an aftermarket switching. I think from b 518 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: w D cars out there six months, seven months, I 519 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: haven't seen it cars fine, you know, So it's it's 520 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: just because it's Delco doesn't make it right anymore. I'm 521 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 1: learning to I'm learning to look at that. You know. 522 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: It's it's whether they've grown too fast and they're going 523 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: through a rough patch. Uh, you know, it's I was 524 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: talking to someone from Wicks Filters the other day and 525 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: we were talking about parts, and I was telling them 526 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: the Delco store and he goes, wow, that's pretty amazing 527 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: that the the the the manufacturer specific Ohee stuff is 528 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: having issues in the aftermarket is gaining ground. And I said, yeah, 529 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: because I think the aftermarket is paying more attention right now. UM, 530 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: So don't don't don't assume just because it's del Go 531 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: or new that it. Um it's a good piece. But 532 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: I would definitely take take a hard look at that 533 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: switch and change it. Now. Last piece of technical information. 534 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: If you go down to that switch al right at 535 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 1: the at the stop lamp, you should have twelve vaults 536 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: on the orange white wire coming out from the body 537 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: control module. If you do, and you jump that orange 538 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: white to the purple wire at the brake switch connector, 539 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: the lights should go out, and if if they do, 540 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: change the brake switch. Alright, make sure you use a 541 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: fuse jumper when you do that, all right, I want 542 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: to protect the circuits. Alright, sir, do that and give 543 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: me a call back and let me know how we 544 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: make out. Thank you. You're very welcome. Tim. Good luck 545 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: to zero nine nine zero zero five zero nine zero. 546 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: How many years I have been saying that number? Now? 547 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: Do you know your name at least at ron and 548 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: any in the Car Doctor eight five five six zero 549 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero. By the way, that's Barry White 550 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: on the board today, folks. I just want to let 551 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,959 Speaker 1: you know that we resuscitated him from no no, no 552 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,239 Speaker 1: from They had been dead for over thirteen years. This 553 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: is Tony Atwood. That's right. So and by the way, 554 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: not a lot of different Go to the Car Doctor website, 555 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,959 Speaker 1: which people should do anyway, and you can see both 556 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: of us. We're the we're the two handsome ones. Yeah, yes, 557 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: in your dreams five zero nine zero zero. Myself, Tom 558 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 1: and Barry White will all be back right after this. Hey, 559 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: welcome back the Car Doctor. Let's get over and talk 560 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: to Bill in Massachusetts fifty five Soto Gee. I think 561 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: that's a good year. Um, hoorry Bill. Welcome to the 562 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: car doctor, sir, what's going on? I have a PISO. 563 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: It's a positive ground system. Okay. We had the wiring 564 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: re done about a year ago to cosben running through 565 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: on the new wiring. UM. What happened is we've lost 566 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: generator output uh when we're running. So we took the 567 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: generator out. We had it rebuilt. The guy tested it 568 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: on his bench and it's working fine on the bench. 569 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: We put it in the car and we get no output. 570 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 1: Also replaced the voltage regulator, the start of relay, and 571 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: several other things. Alright, so then we've got to have 572 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: a wiring issue. Now. Well, I re wrote all the wires. 573 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: They're all they all check continuity. They they're all going 574 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: to the correct places per the diagram. H and they're 575 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: all new. And I'm at a loss as we've had 576 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: the generator out three times and back to the the 577 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: repair shop and each time they put it back on 578 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: their test stand and it's it's outputting on the test stand. 579 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: Put it in the how and it will not output. Oh, 580 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: this is a great problem. A broken car that we 581 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: can't fix. So I'm trying to remember a generator. A 582 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: generator didn't but I guess they initialized it because it's 583 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: charging on the test stand. Yes, right, So it can't 584 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: be that. So then I've got to think there's something 585 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: inherent in the vehicle. Are we missing a ground or 586 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: a connection somewhere that was once there and now isn't. 587 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: But you're saying you've been all through the wiring harness. Yes, yes, 588 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: it ran for a year. It ran after after the 589 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: new wirehouse. Okay, well you know it doesn't mean good. 590 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: I mean, we go back to that. But I'm wondering. 591 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: I'm wondering if we're missing a ground, ground between a 592 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: ground connection between the battery itself and the body of 593 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: the vehicle. That's there. Yeah, that was there. That is good. 594 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: I read a continuity test on that. Also. I'm just thinking, Um, 595 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: you know, if it was a charging system, if it 596 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: was an alternator or generator, it doesn't matter. If the 597 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: alternator is verified is good, if the volte regulator is 598 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: verified as good. Um, in this case, if the if 599 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: the generator has been initialized and the wiring is good, 600 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: where would I go? Um? Now, let me ask you this. 601 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: Can they check that regulator to the viability to test 602 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: that regulator. Yes, we also on one of the trips 603 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: we also gave them the regulator. They put it in 604 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: the circuit on their test skin with our generator and 605 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: were and you say that it worked. Okay, so we 606 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: know it's not the generator and the regulator. Yes, these 607 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: cards were noted for kage failures. Right fails. It can 608 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: go right to ground. I bypassed it per the old 609 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: car manual. You can jump jump it out so you 610 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: don't have it in the system and it still did 611 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: the same thing. Now is it possible that Now let 612 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: me ask you this, did the AMP gage fail the 613 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: MP gage when you started up the MP gage goes 614 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: to the negative side a little and on a normal procedure, 615 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: and then after the engines running, it would come up 616 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: again show a little bit of charge where it had 617 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: just drawn on the battery. Okay, so the end. So 618 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: the AMP gage theoretically was still working at the time 619 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: of the charging system failure. Yes, yes, that's how we 620 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: initially discovered it that the MP gage was going directly 621 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: to the negative side when you started to run the car. 622 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: Do you have this wiring diagram available to email Bill, 623 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: I can get it an email it to you, would 624 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: you because I'll I want to look at this. I'll 625 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: figure this out for you. Ok Uh, send me an 626 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: email Ron at car Doctors Show dot com. Because I'm 627 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: up again. I'm up against the clock. The clock is 628 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: gonna grab me and I can't. I can't give you 629 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: a lot of time right this second, but I want 630 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: to look at this wiring diagram. Um, I want to 631 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: talk about You know, it's not because the generator and 632 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: the regulators in the car. Okay, you know if we 633 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: if we if we hand built a wiring harness, I'm 634 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: sure they would charge. So the problem has to be 635 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: in the in the harness itself. We just got to 636 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: figure out where and how to attack it. So I'm 637 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: looking for information on the wiring harness for that vehicle. 638 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: Send me an email and I will get back to 639 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: Will correspond by email. We'll update the listeners here on 640 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: Aaron as well as on Facebook for anybody that's interested 641 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: in the coming weeks. Has that sound okay? Just remember 642 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: this is a positive ground system, right put that in 643 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: your email, but I'll remember it all right, and just 644 00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: tell me your make model because I talked to so 645 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: many people with so many cars during the course of 646 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: the week. All right, sorry, okay, Bill, thank you, and 647 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: we'll we'll we'll get affected. No worries eight five five 648 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: zero ruminating the car doctor. Right after this, we're back. Hey, 649 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,479 Speaker 1: welcome back, aren't they in the car doctor? Let's get 650 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: in our last call to sour Tony, Wisconsin on nine 651 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: on the c r V. How can I help? Hi? 652 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: My name is Tony. I am that two thousand nine 653 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: CRV and I have a mouse problem in my CRV. 654 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: What's happening? Um? I look on the internet and try 655 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: to figure out and a lot of people are having 656 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: this problem with like two thousand five to two thousand 657 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: eleven times CRV. But it says to take the call 658 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: off and cover the holes with the mesh type thing. 659 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: Um for the like the air intakes right down around 660 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: the base of the Okay, So all I do is 661 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: take that off and then apply this mesh on those 662 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: holes that go into the inside of the car right there, 663 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: just trying to prevent because that's the that's the air 664 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: tree point. They're just trying to prevent the animal entry point. 665 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: Probably the other thing I would use here is Honda. 666 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: Honda makes specifically it's called Honda Rodent tape because the 667 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: other thing you got to think about is if they're 668 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: no longer getting into the cabin filter and they're still 669 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: attracted to the car, what what what part of the 670 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 1: wiring harness are they chewing on? Exactly what I'm worried 671 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: about there is they have a nest inside the call 672 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 1: on the outside of the car. Yeah, no, I I 673 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 1: get you. They make a it's called Honda Rodent tape. 674 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: You can actually get it online. I've I've purchased it 675 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 1: myself on Amazon, but you can get it at the 676 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: local Honda dealer. Um they call it Honda road and taper. 677 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,839 Speaker 1: That's how I refer to it. It's it's part number 678 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: four oh one nine dash seventeen and basically it's got 679 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 1: like a peppery taste to the tape. You would have 680 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: to get the car up in the air, wrap the 681 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: wiring harnesses underneath the vehicle in it, and then you know, 682 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: maybe around your point of entry where the cabin filter 683 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: air and take goes, put some there and um, you know, 684 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 1: hopefully that'll slow him down. So you know, in the 685 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: old days, I would tell somebody use moth balls in 686 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: a plastic bag and punch some holes in the in 687 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: the in the plastic bag with an ice pick and 688 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,280 Speaker 1: see what that gets for you. But you know, Hanna 689 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: kind of stepped up to the plate here and I 690 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: think they've come out with a better idea of the road. 691 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,720 Speaker 1: And tape does work. We use it in the shop 692 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: all the time, all right, Tony, very good, thank you, 693 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: very thank you, sir. You're very welcome. You take good care. 694 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: I'm on Any in the car doctor. Hey next week. 695 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: Next week the big T S T event up there 696 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: in west Chester for all our brother technicians and shop owners. 697 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 1: If you're out that way at the west Chester Marriot. 698 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: We're broadcasting live from there with Jerry Trulli in the Gang. 699 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,800 Speaker 1: But until then, until the next time, I'm on Anny 700 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: in the Car Doctor, reminding you your mechanics aren't expensive, 701 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:53,280 Speaker 1: they're priceless, see it.