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Speaker 2: into our top five at each position, though kind of

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Speaker 2: But first Kerner, let's get to the cardio kings for

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Speaker 1: talk about the cardio kings. Yeah, for wide receiver was

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Speaker 1: Troy Franklin with nine routes, zero targets, and tight end.

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Speaker 1: Who are you low on? Yeah, I'm low on Matthew Stafford.

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Speaker 2: A matter of I don't think he McVeigh ever really

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Speaker 1: But it was literally kicking high gear. I think, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: But it's also I kind of broke it down. I

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Speaker 2: But yeah, with Devonte, they've been about two point six

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Speaker 2: I'm roll on Donald and it's not really like I

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Speaker 1: Seventy eight attempts against the Rams this year.

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Speaker 2: And remember this is that Chris Shula defense that gave

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Speaker 1: So it's you know.

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Speaker 2: still he has been he has been more mistake pronent

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Speaker 2: again in this matchup versus pretty much any other especially

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Speaker 2: you know, Stafford did have a big game last time,

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Speaker 2: just not turn into a shootout and both quarterbacks could

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Speaker 1: So yeah, well, we're on Donald and.

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Speaker 2: He's still like I said, he's still gonna be day

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Speaker 2: to day. Sounds like he's not gonna start the week

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Speaker 1: Well, All right, what are we doing for the quarterback prop? Yeah? So,

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Speaker 1: he's the most fascinating player to project this week, specifically

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Speaker 1: his rushing yards. So I want to hear you break

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Speaker 2: Ooh yeah, Let's see what I got because I definitely

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Speaker 1: But he's tricky. Let's see. So I have him, We'll

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Speaker 1: have him like sixteen dance a really good line. I'm

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Speaker 2: That's and Carlton Davis got banged up to right, he's questionable,

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Speaker 1: That's tough. He's still questionable.

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Speaker 1: He was officially put in the concussion protocol. Okay, it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I would just think if they if like

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Speaker 2: play more zone, which would make it tougher stid him

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Speaker 1: Let's see what his scrambled. What I got for his scramble, right, Well,

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Speaker 2: I was just on over whatever it was rushing yards.

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Speaker 1: Bottom three run defense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they their running backs had ten carries and I

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Speaker 1: Exactly, that might be a better market because that you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I just the market in general, I think

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Speaker 2: he gets. That's like karma right there. You get your

435
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 2: quarterback hurt on the last design.

436
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 1: Rushed, ridiculous, just ridiculous running back top five we got,

437
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 1: I mean Kenneth Walker the third and then like sex

438
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 1: or seven points. R J. Harvey, Kyron Williams, Ramandre Stevenson,

439
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 1: and Travon Henderson.

440
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:58,640
Speaker 2: I got Walker, Williams, Stevenson, Harvey Henderson. Uh yeah, Kyron still,

441
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 2: like I said, got him monitor his health because I

442
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,200
Speaker 2: don't I didn't hear anything.

443
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 1: About an injury, but I just he's just the way

444
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 1: he kind of left.

445
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,880
Speaker 2: The game and then quorum was in on a bunch

446
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 2: of plays in ot just has me wondering he's gonna

447
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,479
Speaker 2: open the week is like with some type of ailment.

448
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,239
Speaker 2: But for now, I still have him getting his like

449
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 2: sixty three percent snap rate.

450
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 1: He's not listed and he is an Iran ever since

451
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 1: they lefted Koram never messed the you know drive, well

452
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 1: maybe the one you're referring to. But yeah, I don't

453
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 1: see anything. He's not listed on the injury report, so

454
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 1: I'm guessing he's fine. But that's that's good a note

455
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 1: that you know, he could have been banged up to

456
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 1: be in there, so something. I'm honitorarly, Okay, who are

457
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 1: I mean?

458
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 2: I think we're both hid the same guys, so you

459
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 2: can just kind of get into it.

460
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kenneth Walker, the third, I mean, just had a

461
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 1: massive nineteen Carrie one hundred and sixteen yard three touchdown

462
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 1: game also added you know, three catches for twenty hindred yards,

463
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 1: never really adding much in the passing game, but you

464
00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 1: know that's thanks in large part to Zach sharbon suffering.

465
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,679
Speaker 1: That just devastating ACL tear. I hate to see that.

466
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: You know, Charbona's Week one status next year is probably

467
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 1: in doubt just given the timing of this ACL tear.

468
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 1: So again, this is a backfield where either back, if

469
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 1: one of them misses time, the other one just has

470
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: massive upside because both running backs are extremely good and

471
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 1: they split the work pretty much down the middle. So

472
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 1: in Sharp's three season career so far, he's only as

473
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 1: two games. And in those games the first time, you know,

474
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 1: Walker rushed twenty six times for one hundred and five

475
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 1: yards on the ground, and the other game scharbon Ams

476
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 1: was this year, Walker had sixteen carries thirty eight yards,

477
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:49,959
Speaker 1: so not very efficient, but two touchdowns. So the thing is,

478
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 1: you know, when Scharbona is out, Walker's is just going to

479
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 1: see more volume. He's typically limited when it comes to volume,

480
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 1: going to see more volume and you know, way more

481
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 1: touchdown upside because sharbonay infamously you know, Vulture some touchdowns

482
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: away from Walker. I think he's the better goal line back.

483
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: So just Walker is gonna have a massive, massive workload here.

484
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 1: And we saw what happens, you know, last week when

485
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: he does get that shot, and that's kind of what

486
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 1: I've been saying with someone like Blake Korum has yet

487
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: to even have that opportunity. But yeah, kenv Walker the

488
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: third by far, the top back this week. His prop

489
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 1: market is out of control. I'm in, you know, alignment

490
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 1: with it. Like I think his Russia tempt prop is

491
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 1: twenty and a half. Not sure where you have him there,

492
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: but that sounds about right. Just you know, Vilas Jones,

493
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: junior camp makers, whoever the hell the backup is isn't

494
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 1: gonna you know, factor in nearly as much as Sharbonet.

495
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 1: So just Walker already, you know, one of the better

496
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 1: back you know backs in the league and now has

497
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,439
Speaker 1: a massive, massive workload. So I think people are kind

498
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 1: of shocked to see what happens with someone like Walker

499
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 1: gets the whole back, the backfield to himself. But that's

500
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: that's what happens. And this week, you know, he's gonna

501
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 1: have the entire backfield to himself, and you know, like

502
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: I mentioned his receiving upside as well is much higher

503
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: this week. So yeah, like if this were a normal

504
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: week in the season, you would have him like top three,

505
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: top five at least probably, yeah, top three maybe, But yeah,

506
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 1: this is what happens when somebody that you know, he

507
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: splits the worklow with is out. Yeah.

508
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 2: So you had fourteen or fourteen carries backfield carries after

509
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 2: Sharps went down. They were tied at five and Walker

510
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 2: got the next fourteen, and then it was garbage time

511
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 2: and Jones got the last six. So like he's getting

512
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 2: somewhere between eighty and one hundred percent of like the

513
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 2: backfield carries. So yeah, like that's why that's why the

514
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 2: prop is about. I don't even like nineteen and a half.

515
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 2: I might bump it up, but yeah, I mean with

516
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 2: a third back active, they might give they might maybe

517
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 2: the second back mixes am more, but I don't know,

518
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 2: maybe not.

519
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: So yeah, I was going to ask you, so that

520
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: you're really good at the tea leaves of you know,

521
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 1: acting and actives practice squad, So what should we be

522
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 1: monitoring for when it's like they elevate both Fielis Jones

523
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: Junior and cam Akers, right, I'm assuming that will happen.

524
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: What should we take away from like both being active

525
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 1: versus one of them being you know, a healthy scratch,

526
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: or like what what do you see out of those

527
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: two backups?

528
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 2: Well, I think I think Acres would be more likely

529
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 2: to get carries, but they they elemented Jones over Acres

530
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 2: last week, and Holdani, who was the original number three

531
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 2: back who won the best job out of preseason, he's

532
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 2: eligible to return, so I think if he's if he

533
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 2: gets activated, that's where I'd have Walker's carries like the

534
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 2: most conservative, Like I probably have it like yeah, eighty percent,

535
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 2: and then you know Holani would still get like another

536
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 2: ten to fifteen, whereas like if it's just Vayis Jones

537
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 2: and cam Akers, I'd have Walker closer to ninety percent,

538
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 2: and you know those guys filling up, filling in the rest.

539
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 2: But I think Holani they would trust with maybe an

540
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 2: extra extra snap or two extra carrier too, over those

541
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 2: other guys, because that's just kind of how it's been,

542
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 2: Like he was the guy that won it and then

543
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 2: they where they cut, they cut, Uh, who's the guy

544
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,959
Speaker 2: he liked? Is it Martinez? I think it was Martinez?

545
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, they cut him, They cut him. Holdani want

546
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: a job. They cut Martinez. Jacardia Wright got hurt. He

547
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 1: was the other guy.

548
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 2: So like Jones and Acres are like five and six

549
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 2: on a depth chart, like in terms of what they

550
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 2: were coming into the year.

551
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: That's why, Yeah, they if those if it was I,

552
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 1: they would both have to be elevated.

553
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 2: If if Holdani's not activated, Becau, they would only have

554
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 2: one back otherwise like Walker's always.

555
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have like Robbie uts. You don't want to

556
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 1: be giving you know, carries too, but they have those

557
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: guys just in case. They're not exactly you know, they're

558
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: not exactly Hunter Key types, but they're there. And then yeah, he.

559
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 2: Wails number twenty something, doesn't he like you would have

560
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 2: to be the backup.

561
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Like you could give him direct carries.

562
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, I didn't realize Jlani was this close to returning.

563
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 1: I know Arroyo is close to returning. He almost did

564
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 1: last week. So they have some you know, guys coming

565
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: back soon. But yeah, just curious what I know. Fillis Jones.

566
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: He used to be a wide receiver, so we'll always

567
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: imagine him being like a pass catching back. Maybe like

568
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: the DJ Dallas role and Akers is more of just

569
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 1: like the Charbonne, you know type backup. But they're they're

570
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: gonna not gonna trust either as much as sharvs. But

571
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 1: Hojilani is a little bit different. They do kind of

572
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 1: Treatjlani as like sharps backup. So yeah, he could factor

573
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: in more than people realize, at least if he if

574
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:35,479
Speaker 1: he is active.

575
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, well they said he's coming off IR this week,

576
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 2: so I don't know if that means he's like definitely

577
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 2: coming off or that just means he's like gonna start practicing.

578
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 2: But I mean, given the circumstances, I wouldn't be surprised to.

579
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: See him, yeah, active this week. Yeah.

580
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 2: It's kind of like the Bills with Curtis Samuy like

581
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 2: they just had they had no choice.

582
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: I think you got to activate this guy.

583
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, but uh yeah in Broker he saw a seventy

584
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 2: pass snap rate that's a season high, and that you know,

585
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 2: a bunch of that was with sharbon A still getting

586
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 2: a couple of snaps. So and Walker's caught three balls

587
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 2: in four Street three plus and four Street games, so

588
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 2: he actually was getting more involved. So yeah, you could

589
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 2: this could be get the seatow's on, he get like

590
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 2: fifty snacks. This could be one hundred percent type of

591
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 2: like Jonathan Taylor Christian McCaffrey wild card type of snapwork

592
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 2: for Walker.

593
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: Huiloa. Well, I hate to do this, but I'm low

594
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: my guy Blake Koram, so maybe he's gonna go off

595
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: for one hundred yards this week. Yeah, but again, Korum

596
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: is one of those backs who has massive upside if

597
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: his running back mate were ever to miss time. But

598
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: that's never happened. Although again you mentioned that Kyroen looked

599
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: like he banged something up, so who knows, but it's

600
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: kind of clear. And you hinted at this last week.

601
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: Just the deeper we are getting in the playoffs, you know,

602
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: looks like the Rams want to lean on Kyroen a

603
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: little bit more. There was definitely some drives later in

604
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: the game where you know, it was supposed to be

605
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: Koram's turn and they left Kyroen in there. And you know,

606
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: this is a game where the Rams are two and

607
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: a half point dogs. You know they could end up

608
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: in a rare trailing game script, So there just might

609
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: be less volume overall for these two backs. And it's

610
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: a brutal matchup, and they might lean on the starter

611
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: a bit more on Kyroen. This is like I was

612
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: talking to Stucky about this on the BBOC last night.

613
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: For the National Championship game, Miami had kind of a

614
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: similar running back rotation and they I had Marty Brown

615
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: the backup under twenty five and a half rushing yards

616
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: because I thought, you know, they might lean on the

617
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: start a little bit more, and that's exactly what happened.

618
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: He only rushed three times for five yards. And I

619
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: was kind of using Blake korm as example that you know,

620
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: that kind of happened last week. So this week, I'm

621
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit lower, a little bit less

622
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: optimistic on Blake Koram, seeing as much work just given

623
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: the game script and how much they were kind of

624
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: leaning on Kiren later in the game. So it but

625
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: gotta be low on my guy, Blake Koram.

626
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I ended I'm looking like the asshole because I

627
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 2: el be when it actually was high on kor I

628
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 2: was too, but then my.

629
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: Only dead on that game ended up paying Kyron any time. No, yeah,

630
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: no one's gonna fault you for betting on the actual

631
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: starting back, the actual goal line back to score when

632
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: you can get plus odds on him. But like you

633
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: had mentioned, the games were Quorum scored usually. Kyroen also

634
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: had a touchdow. Yeah, so yeah that was good for

635
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: like parlays because again you're gonna get some kind of

636
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: anti correlation and pricing involved in that. So no, I

637
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: didn't hit that. And again, Mike Blake, Korum love has

638
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: nothing to do with Karen Williams. I think Kyron is

639
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: the better back right now, and they locked him up

640
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: for what three years, so we got to get used

641
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: to Kyen being the lead back. But I still think

642
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: Quorum is the best backup in the league. But that's

643
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: obviously to take nothing away from Kyron's You don't think

644
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: sharpening Korm over Sharpening or Korn over k Back over

645
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: k nine. I guess Knine was the fact. I guess

646
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: Cayline's a legit back up. But yeah, it goes to

647
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: show both of these backfields all that pouring out for

648
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: my guy sharps. Both these backfields have too legit, you know,

649
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: starting caliber running backs. In my opinion, The funny thing is.

650
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: In the wildcard round, Kyron out snapped Quorum forty eight

651
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 2: twenty eight and like it didn't you know, the touches

652
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 2: were close, so it didn't seem like it was that

653
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 2: big of a margin. In the division round, the touches

654
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 2: are a lot like it was. I think Kyen had

655
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 2: to like, you know, over twenty and Korma had under ten.

656
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 2: But you know, the snap rate was forty nine twenty nine.

657
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: They get the same exact same well, they love it.

658
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: They love to like just feed korm when he was

659
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: on the field. So again the low snap rate but

660
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: high usage rate was good because again I think korm

661
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: is the best backup in the league. But last week,

662
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: if you're watching like Nick had the over, you know,

663
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: I wanted Korm to do good and score touchdowns anytime.

664
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: Anytime it was the Koran drive, they were just airing

665
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: it out and it would usually be like a three

666
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: and out, so no momentum, but they were just airing

667
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: it out on first down. They just weren't using him

668
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: when he was on the field. And that's kind of

669
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: why you should look at snap counts because sometimes you know,

670
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: they could just get a you know, an odd amount

671
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,479
Speaker 1: of rush plays or vice versas. So it is important

672
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: to kind of look at snapcount Last week just Koram

673
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: just they weren't running the ball when he was on

674
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: the field unfortunately.

675
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean speaking of snapcounts and like I've already

676
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 2: got a headache trying to protect the Denver backfield.

677
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: Because like RJ.

678
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 2: Harvey, like they never run when he's on a field,

679
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 2: like they were thirty percent of the time when he's

680
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: on the fields like nuts. But so that is the

681
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: guy that I'm low on is R J. Harvey and

682
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 2: we're just running back. Like I said it last week,

683
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 2: Willie Mark's coming off a big game.

684
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: You just can't run against New England with Milton Williams.

685
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: Eighty one yards per game, three point seven yards per

686
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 2: carry allowed, a one point three percent touchdown rate. In

687
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 2: the five games without him, one hundred and forty seven yards,

688
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 2: a five point oh yards per carry, and a four

689
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 2: point seven touchdown rate, so it's like a four x

690
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 2: touchdown rate. The yards per game nearly doubles and the

691
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 2: yards per carry goes up one point four one point three.

692
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 2: So it's like when he's in the lineup, they're just

693
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 2: giving up nothing, and I think they might be a deterrent.

694
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,919
Speaker 2: That's in two games the backs of allow in two

695
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 2: games against the Patriots backs of amassed sixty one yards

696
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 2: on thirty one carries with a fumble loss, no touchdowns

697
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 2: under two yards of carry, so they're already Harvey was

698
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 2: on the field for forty five snaps. He had six

699
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 2: carries last week. McLoughlin had four and he only played

700
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 2: like ten snaps. He only played ten snaps exactly, so

701
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: there's a chance that like, yes, it should even out,

702
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,760
Speaker 2: But on the season, mcgloughlin gets a carry on fifty

703
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 2: one percent of his snaps. Harvey gets to carry on

704
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 2: only thirty percent of his. So it's still like, if

705
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 2: there's a run heavier game plan, they might just play

706
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 2: McLoughlin more snaps too, which so it's like that's it's

707
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 2: like it's not going to even out as much as

708
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 2: you would think, like for the discrepancy to be like

709
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 2: forty five to ten and snaps. So yeah, it's it's

710
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 2: kind of tough to project him for much of.

711
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: Anything this week.

712
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 2: I mean, Woodie Marx was at like under a yard

713
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 2: per carry for most of that game.

714
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: I don't I don't even know how he got to

715
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: above one.

716
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 2: I think he had like a four yard run late

717
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 2: in the game, like a monster four yard run. But yeah,

718
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 2: it's it was, I mean eighteen for thirty one for

719
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 2: Houston Backs and then thirteen for thirty for Charger Backs.

720
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 2: You're just not giving up anything with Milton Williams. And

721
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 2: remember Vabel Scheme did this with the Jeffrey Simmons in

722
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 2: Tennessee too, Like Milton Williams is just as new Jeffrey

723
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 2: Simmons so that they used to give up nothing on

724
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 2: the ground. So yeah, this is one where like I think,

725
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 2: you know, the market's probably gonna be high on on

726
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 2: Harvey just like they were Marks, especially with you know Stidham.

727
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 2: You know, no knicks to take a rushing attempt, I think,

728
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 2: but I just I can't. I can't get there. I

729
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 2: can't get there with Harvey.

730
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: He could take a wrong one. But that's the thing.

731
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: No one's even breaking wrong ones on on the New England.

732
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: I guess nothing nothing, and Harvey's been so had Harvey

733
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 2: like pretty well yard per carrier right like you have

734
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,959
Speaker 2: him like under under flour right.

735
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is embarrassing because I like to open up

736
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: the prop tool and just see kind of where you know,

737
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,720
Speaker 1: I'm way off, to see if there's something a missing

738
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: or like a bug or something, and I had, like

739
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: Harvey at eleven point two rush attempts and the market

740
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: open at fourteen and a half and it was showing

741
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: like this massive value and I check it out. I

742
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: didn't go there because I was like, how are they

743
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: not going to run the ball against the bills? And

744
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: sure enough? Now, what if I were to tell you

745
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: that the market is once again at fourteen and a

746
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: half rush attempts for our jai, Oh my god, yeah,

747
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: under I'm um gon to beat that, right, It's like

748
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: you said he could break he could break a long one,

749
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: but that market, it doesn't matter. Actually breaking a long

750
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: one hurts because it kind of takes away, you know,

751
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: potential couple chain mover type things. But JK. Dobbins might

752
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: be back, right, so he might not be, but still

753
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: the fact that he might means you probably want to

754
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: lock this in earlier. Marvin Man, Marvin Man just yeah, yeah, yeah,

755
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 1: right right, he both passes last night. But if McLaughlin

756
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: looked good, uh yeah, well better back the past few

757
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: weeks so you know, yeah, fourteen and a half rush attempts.

758
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,959
Speaker 2: They fade everything, like fade the attempts, the yards, the law,

759
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 2: like everything and just like, yeah, hit two out of three,

760
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 2: should hit.

761
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe not his maybe not his like receiving yards.

762
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why you got to take them over past

763
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: attempts to just kind of like dumping it off to

764
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: Harvey would kind of add to his volume and take

765
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: away from Harvey's rushing. All Right, I think I know

766
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: I'm going for this game this week. Okay, Harvey's averaging

767
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: like three point six yards to carry this year.

768
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, all the explosiveness, uh yeah, like this could be

769
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 2: just a this could be anotherly Marks if he doesn't.

770
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 1: Ye. He kind of reminds me of like Jerome Ford.

771
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: I think it was like a couple of years ago.

772
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: If you look at his like all of his rushing plays,

773
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: he had like a ninety yard run and eighty yard

774
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: run and then nothing but like seven seven seven six three,

775
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 1: So you have like a three point nine rushing yard average.

776
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: But if you take away just like the two ridiculously

777
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: long runs, he was averaging like one point two yards

778
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: of carry. That's kind of Harvey, just like boom bust.

779
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: And I think they're down there.

780
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 2: They might be down at the third string center too,

781
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 2: because their center got hurt and their center was already hurt,

782
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 2: Wattenberg was already hurt, and then their center got hurt

783
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:09,439
Speaker 2: last week too.

784
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,919
Speaker 1: So questionable. Still, yeah, I could get ugly.

785
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 2: Okay, so we got let's go. I think I'm still

786
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 2: gonna go a Harvey prop but we did did Maybe.

787
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 1: Or quorum would be fun. Oh actually that Patriots backfield.

788
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, let's go. Who's gonna have more carries?

789
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:42,439
Speaker 2: Make Rimandre Stevenson a.

790
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: Half carry favorite over who? No, no, no, let's go

791
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: one and half. Let's go on and half one and

792
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: that one? Still? Okay, Yeah, I have it like one. No,

793
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 1: how would I think two? Let me Yeah, I have

794
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: it like to so yeah to Andre, market has it

795
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: like more like three, two and a half three ish.

796
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 2: But it's like, remember Henderson had like ten carries and

797
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 2: Stevenson had like three. At one point in the game,

798
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 2: I think Stevenson not like the last.

799
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: Stanson got like poked in the eye. He was like

800
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: on the sideline trying to get his vision back. Yeah,

801
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: and then he came in later, so I think that

802
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: you know, he missed fifty percent of the game due

803
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: to a temporary injury, like his eyes. Fine now, but

804
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,280
Speaker 1: I mean he's been playing well the past few weeks,

805
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'll take Stevenson. I mean I would smash

806
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: the half attempt probably yea, yeah, much closer too, But

807
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: that's that's still I'll still lean Andre, Yeah, I mean, yeah,

808
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: that's yeah. It's it's tough because like.

809
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 2: It's kind of like the like Henderson has been the

810
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 2: guy that's we led in more games, but we Stevens

811
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 2: has just been better weightly too, So that's the other thing.

812
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 2: Like coming into the game, it was hard to give

813
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 2: Stevenson like a big edge, but now, yeah, I think

814
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 2: two is fair.

815
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: Okay. Wide receiver Top five, who we got jsn Puka, DeVante,

816
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: Digs Sutton. I'd be shocked if we don't have the

817
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: same top five.

818
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got I got Digs ahead of Adams just

819
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 2: because like the Seahawks, they just don't really give up

820
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: much to wide receivers.

821
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 1: So it's like, I still think I'd.

822
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 2: Rather have the number one against Denver than the number

823
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 2: two against Seattle. He had with one catch in that

824
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 2: last and in the only game he played against Theeattle,

825
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 2: So yeah, I have Adams four in the same top five. Otherwise,

826
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 2: Jason Puka, Digs, Adam Soon, who you high on.

827
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: I'm high on Marvin Mems because you know, Pat Bryant

828
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: suffered that concussion where that's his second one in just

829
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: a few weeks, right, I know, he had to go

830
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: to the hospital after that one late in the game

831
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: against the Jaguars. That was a bad one. So the

832
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 1: fact that he has another one now, I'd say he's

833
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 1: closer doubtful. And then Troy Franklin not sure what's up

834
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: with the hand. I'm str injury, so I have to

835
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: monitor that. But Mems himself also he got checked for

836
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: concussion early on. He also slammed in the back of

837
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: the camera. That looked painful. But yeah, ooh, that looked

838
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: like it hurt. Was that on his touchdown? Yeah, I

839
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: didn't think he's in the game when he drew that PI,

840
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: I was like, what the hell? The fact that, yeah,

841
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: the fact that that was a drive ending play, the

842
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: touchdown meant he could come back in, but like, there

843
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 1: was no He needed probably five minutes to recover from

844
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: that and then he was okay. But yeah he I mean,

845
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: he ended up having a massive game eight catches, nine

846
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: three yards and a touchdown, So I think they're gonna

847
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: need him to step up again. You know, with potentially

848
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: one or two of these wide receivers also out, and

849
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: you know Coroland Sutton could face a ton of Christian

850
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: Gonzalez here, could open things up even more for Mems.

851
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: And like we said, you know, Denver, even though Stidhams

852
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: taking over, still could be pass heavy, could be a

853
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 1: trailing game scrip where they have to throw more anyway,

854
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: And you know, Mims could see design carries like he

855
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: was was like a top twenty, top thirty wide receiver

856
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: at the end of last season in fantasy. So we've

857
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 1: seen stretches of him going off. So I think with

858
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: the added usage this week, coming off the big game,

859
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: like he's my wide receiver eight to up in the week,

860
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: but a player whose needle is you know heading up

861
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: into this week and for good reason.

862
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they technically been practicing together probably all

863
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 2: year because Mims has been on the second team, he

864
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 2: hasn't been a starter. Yeah, yeah, I'm high on a

865
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 2: Kashawn Booty Denver. You know, top five against number wide

866
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 2: receiver one, so you know Dig's still going to see some.

867
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: That Pats or Tan coverage. Yeah, that would be a

868
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 1: good matchup.

869
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 2: But I still think they'll probably want to look Kayshawn's

870
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 2: way a little more. They're just thirteenth against number two

871
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 2: wide receivers. They give up the six most schedules just

872
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 2: the targets to number two wide receivers, and they play

873
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 2: a lot of man top five man rate and Booty

874
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 2: is for first on the Patriots four touchdowns against man coverage.

875
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 1: So he's probably going.

876
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 2: To be a low percentage route runner type of player again,

877
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 2: but I think he could pop for a big play

878
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 2: or two in this matchup.

879
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: Again, who you lo? I'm on Rashid Shaheed, who you

880
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 1: know is coming off another game where he had a

881
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 1: ninety five yard kickoff return touchdown to open the game.

882
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,760
Speaker 1: He had a punt return touchdown week sixteen, kick return

883
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: touchdown week fourteen, All amazing, amazing stuff that only Rashik

884
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: Shaheed could do. But as a wide receiver hasn't been

885
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: doing shit. Two catches for ten yards over the last

886
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 1: four games. Wow. Three rushes for fifty eight yards though,

887
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: but you know last week he had a sixty three

888
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: percent routes und rate. They did throw it him twice downfield,

889
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: didn't catch either. But we saw, like Jake Bobo saw

890
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,399
Speaker 1: an increase in routes he made that you know, really

891
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: good first down catch, right, so we could see more Bobo.

892
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: We could see Arroyo return this week, so maybe more

893
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: two tight end sets, maybe go away from you know,

894
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: one on one personnel. Just a lot of things kind

895
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 1: of going against Shihed as a pass catcher. He had

896
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: a really low target rate in this offense. So when

897
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: you look at his like season long stats, like when

898
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: he was on the Saints, he was what the number

899
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: two receiver most of the time. So just it's a

900
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,479
Speaker 1: really start you know split now having to like watch

901
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: JSN rack up a bunch of targets Cooper Cup, you know,

902
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: so really low in Shiheed when it comes to receiving props,

903
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: his his props like twenty six and a half yards.

904
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: His receptions propped is two and a half unders, like

905
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: minus one eighty, but you know, probably be in the

906
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: minus two hundreds. So just interested in fading his you know,

907
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: receiving output. And he also we can't count on like

908
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: a special team's touchdown every week, so for like dfs

909
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: things like that, I think he's just much more likely

910
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: to finish closer his floor one of these weeks. So

911
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: just lower on Shahid, despite you know, his ability to

912
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 1: score from anyone in the field, he just hasn't been

913
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: seeing the usage you kind of want to see from

914
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:14,919
Speaker 1: a you know, pass catcher point of view.

915
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have him one point seven for twenty four,

916
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 2: uh like his average. Yeah, so yeah, yeah, I would

917
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 2: be under that easily.

918
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: I know.

919
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's he's just been like a ten percent

920
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 2: target per route type of guy in this offense. And

921
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 2: I think Donald he's just not throwing deep as much.

922
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's the injury or just like

923
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 2: they're just he just knows his defense is really good.

924
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's just you know, they try to take

925
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 2: a shot here and there. But if yeah, I think

926
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 2: the volume like going under that catches makes a lot

927
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 2: of sense.

928
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: I am low on Sutton.

929
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 2: You know, New England is thirty first and dvoha against

930
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 2: number one receivers, but like if you look deeper, like

931
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 2: there's it's really they just haven't allowed many targets to

932
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 2: number one's period, just five point nine schedule adjusted targets

933
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 2: to number one wide receivers per FTN, and.

934
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: That's second fewest in the league.

935
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 2: Christian Gonzalez this year allowing just a forty four point

936
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 2: eight percent catch eight nine point nine yards per catch,

937
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 2: one touchdown, or a year sixty one point eight passer

938
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 2: rating per PFF.

939
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: So this, you know, he's gonna see a lot of him.

940
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: And now you're talking about a backup quarterback.

941
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,439
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think, you know Mims, all those other guys,

942
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 2: you're probably gonna have. Sean Payton probably will scheme other

943
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 2: guys open because I think, especially if Davis is banged

944
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 2: up or out like Ston, you know, Sutton's gonna get

945
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 2: Gonzales and then somebody else is going to have a

946
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 2: matchup somewhere. So yeah, Sutton, I'm low on Sutton, just

947
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 2: for a number of reasons. What are we doing for

948
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:45,399
Speaker 2: the wide receiver prop?

949
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, so again, every prop market's already out this week,

950
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: so let's get creative here. I have a fun one

951
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 1: for you. I'm not sure what the correct answer is,

952
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: but well will be greater. This is a rushing yard

953
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 1: prop or wide receivers. Well will be greater total rushing

954
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: yarts combine of Rashid Shahid, Kuka Nakua and Marvin Mims

955
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: Junior versus like any of these backs, I don't know

956
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: who the hell is playing Billis Jones, Junior cam Akers,

957
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: George Halani combined.

958
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 2: Rushing yards, rushing yards. Oh, the receivers, I'll go the receivers, yeah,

959
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 2: because I think those guys that might combined for like

960
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,919
Speaker 2: it's very like probably combined for like West and two

961
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 2: carries or like two exactly like Alani Raget two or

962
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 2: three maybe three.

963
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: But I would think each.

964
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 2: Of those receivers would be good for one carry, and

965
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,919
Speaker 2: even if not, like you said, Shaheed, I mean when

966
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 2: he gets one, he's been going off, Cuka usually could

967
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 2: get multiple carries.

968
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: Uh.

969
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I definitely want to go to the receivers.

970
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, that is a fun one though, because

971
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 2: I mean.

972
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: Probably yeah, I think I think to make it, I

973
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: think I think you beat me on that one. I

974
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: think the way to make that better is the highest

975
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: yardage of I guess both both props like whoever gets

976
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 1: the highest yardage out of Shaheed Kuka Mems versus whoever

977
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: ends up getting the highest gardage out of the three

978
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: seattle Backs. Yeah, but the fact that you're kind of

979
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:23,240
Speaker 1: getting all three receivers combined versus you know, it'll probably

980
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: be like one of those seattle backs actually ends up

981
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: getting carries. That's probably why.

982
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean if it's if it's not Halani,

983
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it could be zero. It could definitely

984
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 2: be zero if it's not Halani. So like that's that's

985
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 2: what I was kind of bank That's what I'm kind

986
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 2: of banking on because I don't think he's guaranteed to

987
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 2: come back. But even if he is, I mean, he

988
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,919
Speaker 2: probably gets what like two to four median of three,

989
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 2: And I'd say these receivers combined have a median of

990
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 2: three as well, and usually receivers get more yards per

991
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 2: than running backs a little bit, so.

992
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 1: That comes for sure. Yeah. Yeah, but po getto get

993
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: out for no losses. It's Puka, that is true. Yeah,

994
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 1: like the high floor of this group where he's probably

995
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: gonna get a handful of yards, where should he you know,

996
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: he might not even get a carry, but if he does,

997
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: it might go for twenty plus yards. So yeah, yeah,

998
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: I'm probably screwed on this one. Oh well, And I

999
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:19,240
Speaker 1: would I would.

1000
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 2: Think with Sharps out shit, he is more likely to

1001
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 2: get multiple carries, right like that would back he could

1002
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 2: just be their second, like even if he's not playing

1003
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 2: running back just and then same thing with like Mims

1004
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,439
Speaker 2: probably more likely to get carries with bow Nicks out,

1005
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 2: like yeah, yeah, I think I do.

1006
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: I like this either way. I'm interested in just kind

1007
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: of laddering one of these receiver rushing props. Maybe not Puka,

1008
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: that's too obvious, but yeah, maybe memes. They're floating like, uh,

1009
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 1: you know, ten plus rushing yards at five to one

1010
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: or something like that.

1011
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 2: I think Mims actually is tricky because if both receivers

1012
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 2: are out, he plays more receiver less running back.

1013
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's true. I guess he would be the

1014
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: one that yeah, yeah, yeah.

1015
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 2: So like I'm looking at the the market has pooka

1016
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 2: one and a half carries with a plus one sixty

1017
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 2: to the over uh and they don't have she let's.

1018
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: See to them is up at like some of the

1019
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: like the DFS site, they haven't for yards Oh yeah yeah,

1020
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 1: I got half a yard? Yeah yeah yeah. Like with those,

1021
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: I'm not interested so much and betting on like Shaheed

1022
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: Median props could he might not get a carry, but

1023
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: like some sites off for like ault yards where you

1024
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: could take like ten plus rushing yards for you know,

1025
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: six to one. Those are what I'm interested in, where

1026
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: you know If he gets a zero, so be it.

1027
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: But if he does get a carry or two, he

1028
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 1: could easily clear that. So I'm more interested in like

1029
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: a wide range of outcome markets and that than like

1030
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: the median. Yeah, it's tricky to project, you know what

1031
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, yeah, I would would, I would.

1032
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 2: I would say, yeah, he's He's got about just about

1033
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 2: about four percentage of the Batfield carries just since he

1034
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 2: joined the team.

1035
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, I would think.

1036
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 2: I would think he gets a carry more likely than

1037
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 2: not anyway, that he gets a carry at least tight

1038
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 2: end top five?

1039
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: Oh man, what a brutal, brutal week. Do you have

1040
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 1: three Rams in my top five? Okay, let's see Hunter, Henry, A. J. Barner,

1041
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: Colby Parkinson, Evan Ingram, and Tyler Higby. I got Henry, Barner, Parkinson, Ingram,

1042
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: Ferguson makes sense, makes sense.

1043
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what was going on, Like

1044
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 2: Ferguson just played a lot more than Higby last week

1045
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 2: for some reason.

1046
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, h mcvay's been weird again. But uh yeah, uh yeah,

1047
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: I'm high on Hunter Henry. It's a week tight end

1048
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 1: slate or weaker, I should say, So he's a clear

1049
00:52:53,880 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: number one, Seattle and Rams. They're very tough to right now,

1050
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: especially if like Arroyo returns this week. Well, I'll talk

1051
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: about the Rams next segment. But even you know, Denver's

1052
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: room is murky despite you know, even if they're down

1053
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: a couple receivers, they still might capping or meant like

1054
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: a fifty percent routes run rate and just use Nate

1055
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: Atkins Moore, who the hell knows.

1056
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 2: Also, he's been practicing, Oh are you kidding me? Not officially, Yeah,

1057
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 2: but his window open last week, so he couldn't be

1058
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 2: activated this week, and he would be like to direct

1059
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 2: Ingram replacement.

1060
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, and what wasn't like Prentice getting some targets last

1061
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: week if I remember he was doing something. But yeah,

1062
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: but you know who has zero uncertainty this week? Hunter

1063
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: freaking Henry eight routes run rate last week. I think

1064
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: that was the second highest of the season. So they're

1065
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 1: they're not messing around, you know, they're using them a

1066
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: lot more. And I guess you know, mac Hollins might

1067
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 1: return this week, so the wide receiver room could be

1068
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 1: very tricky to project. But again that doesn't really impact Henry.

1069
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: And you know, Denver has been pretty vulnerable to tight

1070
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 1: ends lately, they allowed what Kincaid had a big game,

1071
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: six catches, a three yards of a touchdown. Brenton Strange,

1072
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 1: Luke Musgrave, zach Ertz all had big games against them,

1073
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: just you know, last month or two. So you know,

1074
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: Henry could be kind of sneaky this week and you

1075
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: know the clear tight end one this week just based

1076
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: on this slate.

1077
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually don't think Mac will be back this week.

1078
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 2: It sounds like he'll be out at least one more week.

1079
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,879
Speaker 2: So that's actually good for Henry because I think Mac

1080
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 2: is gonna command, like, you know, in place of like

1081
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,479
Speaker 2: Tyle Williams, Mac Collins target rate.

1082
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: Would be a lot higher. Yeah, true. I like, how

1083
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 1: don't Schultz still won that? Henry's Henry? Yeah?

1084
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 2: Two yards five yards, five yards, five yards, five years.

1085
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: Like the first pass of the game was like a

1086
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: yeah banger, right, yeah, so yeah, yeah, you got like

1087
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: two forty something. He always gets off the hot starts.

1088
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:13,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then she just strout happened and then injuries happened.

1089
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: That's a good lord who all right? Who uh tight end? Yeah,

1090
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: it's tough a tight end.

1091
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 2: The guy on high on is Terrence Ferguson just because

1092
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 2: I mean, he was hurt, and then he came back

1093
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 2: and he played twenty three snaps. Davis haven't played nine

1094
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 2: and Tyler Higby played eight, So I don't know if

1095
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 2: that for sure continues at that rate. You know, there

1096
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 2: was a lot of as I mentioned, two minute hurry

1097
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 2: up things like that, you know, weight down type of

1098
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 2: plays where Ferguson's usually in on more so it could

1099
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 2: kind of he go back to the mean a little bit.

1100
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 2: But still the fact that he was the clear number

1101
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 2: two tight end and they targeted him I believe on

1102
00:55:53,520 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 2: the last play of UH of overtime before they ticked, right,

1103
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 2: I think it was Parkinson got a target and then

1104
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 2: Ferguson got a target and then they kicked. So yep, yeah, yeah,

1105
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 2: So like he's in the plan, I think for you know,

1106
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 2: some some way, somehow, UH Seattle sixteenth and dvo against

1107
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 2: tight ends, but they give up sixty four zero point

1108
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 2: two schedule adjusted yards per game to tight ends per

1109
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 2: FT and that's most of any position. They only give

1110
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 2: up forty toy receiver one, forty one to wire receiver two,

1111
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 2: thirty seven to wire receiver three, and thirty eight to

1112
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 2: running back, So like sixty four that's like massive compared

1113
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,879
Speaker 2: to those others in terms of the share. So yeah,

1114
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:36,879
Speaker 2: this you could see the RAMS tight ends maybe pop

1115
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,439
Speaker 2: a little bit more than the last couple of weeks

1116
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 2: in this one.

1117
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 1: And Ferguson played.

1118
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 2: More STAPs than the two tight ends after him combined

1119
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 2: last week, So high on him.

1120
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: We won won. Yeah, for that same reason. I'm low

1121
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 1: on Tyler Higbee because you know McVeigh threw that curveball

1122
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: where we didn't see as many titand heavy looks. But

1123
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: you know, Higbee's routes turn rate was seventeen percent by

1124
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: far season low in a game that he's played. I

1125
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: should say, I didn't see anything about an injury. It's

1126
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 1: kind of like what you said, like just Terrence Ferguson

1127
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: was the guy, and Parkinson, you know, still led the

1128
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: team and routes run rate. So really just bizarre usage.

1129
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: Maybe Higbee bounces back this week, anything's possible with McVeigh,

1130
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: But I mean, if this usage remains anywhere close to this,

1131
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: you know I'm going to be much lower on Higbee.

1132
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: And yeah, just tricky to project RAMS tight ends right now.

1133
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: I think right now it's just Parkinson and Ferguson and

1134
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: then you know, Higbee's kind of the third tight end,

1135
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 1: and then Allen was completely out of the rotation. It

1136
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: seemed like, so just yeah, much much lawer on Higbee

1137
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: this week. Then I was, you know, entering the playoffs, h.

1138
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 2: Well, aould actually played one more snap than Higby, Like

1139
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 2: this is that route runs only two?

1140
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, Heigy didn't block at all. I mean, Higby's

1141
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: not out there to block. So yeah, like, uh, maybe

1142
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: that's why just Higbee's being phased out right. And Ferguson,

1143
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: we were high on him. He's a very talented rookie.

1144
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: Usually mcveays very careful with rookies, doesn't lean on him,

1145
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: so I was kind of surprised to see them turn

1146
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: to Ferguson like that, especially coming off injury. But yeah,

1147
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: I think that that could be here to stay. If

1148
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: he was willing to lean on Ferguson that high leverage situation,

1149
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: I would imagine that that's pretty sticky heading into this week.

1150
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's tough, like because at the same by

1151
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 2: the same token, Ferguson had five targets and called one,

1152
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 2: so like we could have just I don't know, that's.

1153
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: Kind of as usually he's just getting low percentage downfield bombs.

1154
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: But question and yeah, field is kind of the conditions

1155
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 1: were poor, to say the least. Everybody was dropping passes.

1156
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 2: So because a out was one seventeen eight, yeah, pretty

1157
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 2: I mean that's a pretty standard for him because he

1158
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,919
Speaker 2: sees an average like eighteen point six. So yeah, yeah,

1159
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 2: so you can forgive him Oh no, no, no, sorry, that's

1160
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 2: sixteen point eight.

1161
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 1: I give him actually sixteen six.

1162
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 2: Deep yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, I'm.

1163
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:20,919
Speaker 1: Low on Davis Allen. I mean, just Davis Allen.

1164
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 2: I mean, because he played nine snaps, but he ran

1165
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 2: only one route, so he was blocking.

1166
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: I think it's if.

1167
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 2: They get in the red zone, there's a chance he

1168
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 2: could catch a touchdown like one catch, one one yard,

1169
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 2: one touchdown or something like that. But if if it's

1170
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 2: another close game and they're you know, more third downs

1171
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 2: than usual, more hurry up than usual, it'll probably be fergus,

1172
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 2: it will probably be the same kind of snap rate

1173
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,959
Speaker 2: as last week. So like I'm but I'm still lowing

1174
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 2: Allen because like compared to you know, the last pretty

1175
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 2: much the entire season, he's been good for you know,

1176
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 2: about a twenty percent route run rate.

1177
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: So for him to run just one route.

1178
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 2: And play two p snaps, I mean, regardless of what

1179
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 2: packages he's in on that's that's not that's not good

1180
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 2: in the most important game of the year. So yeah,

1181
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 2: and Wes Ferguson just gets punished for like Hitler, just

1182
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 2: like all right, Stafford, like we don't need you just

1183
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 2: chucking it Ferguson, let's get like, let's get I mean

1184
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 2: also chucking it to like Jordan winning too.

1185
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 1: It was a weird, weird game. But yeah, well on

1186
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 1: David tight end prop, I guess we've gotta go with.

1187
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 2: Some rams here. I'm trying to figure out. Let's see,

1188
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 2: how do I want to do this Ferguson versus Higbee.

1189
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 2: I'll make Ferguson a uh two and a half yard favorite.

1190
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's fricky. That such a wide range of outcomes.

1191
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 1: I'd say Higby's more likely to catch two passes, but

1192
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 1: Ferguson would smoke him. He does. I'm gonna go Higbee here,

1193
01:00:56,720 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: but I don't like it. Yeah, I was open you

1194
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 1: to go Higby.

1195
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 2: Uh, it's because it's like Ferguson did get five targets,

1196
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 2: Like if he if he's used anywhere near the same way.

1197
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 2: But then, like you said, it could just could bounce

1198
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 2: back to So yeah, it's tough, but yeah, I think

1199
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 2: I want you on the Higbee side.

1200
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what.

1201
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 2: He played the fourth he was like the fourth tight

1202
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 2: end and not an actual actual just snaps, which.

1203
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 1: Is not and you haven't heard anything about like an

1204
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 1: injury or you know. Oh yeah, I could contact fell

1205
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 1: out and they couldn't find it, like nothing like that.

1206
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 1: Just yeah, I mean it was cold, Yeah, that's all

1207
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 1: I think. I think it was cold. He's been hurt.

1208
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean it seemed odd to me.

1209
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 1: I thought he was trending up, not down.

1210
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 2: But it's McVeigh so, I mean this week it could

1211
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 2: be gave a sound getting like the it's a tight

1212
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 2: end too or so the only constant has been Parkinson,

1213
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 2: which makes sense. But yeah, yeah, probably might gotta be

1214
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 2: a little conservative with the like with the like recency,

1215
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 2: but still it's I mean, it's tough to trust a

1216
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 2: guy who played eight snaps last week.

1217
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like waiting to Mumfield, both have it over

1218
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 1: fifty percent and then like what tou tou is a

1219
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 1: healthy scratch and Smith just four percent. Maybe he just

1220
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 1: didn't need Smith like a decoy downfield threat for that

1221
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 1: weather game. So who knows he could make me go

1222
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 1: right back to usual this week.

1223
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I yeah, like I I wait, like the

1224
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 2: last game mode like is for like the order, but like, yeah,

1225
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 2: I'm not giving I'm still doing Smith more than like

1226
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 2: four percent. Like it's kind of I just kind of

1227
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 2: like do like a more more uniform decay, Like it's like,

1228
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 2: all right, the y receiver three will get like six

1229
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 2: like fifty thirty ten or something like you know what

1230
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 2: I mean something like that, just to like, yeah, even it.

1231
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 1: Out a little. Well, that's that's a great point. We're

1232
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 1: at the end. Only the diehards are listening still. Anyway,

1233
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 1: what I have twenty five percent for Smith is that

1234
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 1: kind of where you settle that, no, I have him

1235
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 1: more than that.

1236
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 2: I also I have I have so I actually have

1237
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 2: Whittington forty month fel thirty Smith fifteen. So Smith's essentially

1238
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 2: getting half of the wide receiver four, which is which

1239
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 2: Bumfield was at thirty. I think that makes sense because

1240
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 2: like Pooka and Devonte have been like eighty five ninety,

1241
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 2: so like if they're not using like a lot of

1242
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 2: one three figure Smith is kind of essentially like gonna

1243
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 2: play those other snaps where like you know, one of those.

1244
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I mean it's tough though.

1245
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 2: I think like twenty five is reasonable if you just

1246
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 2: take his average of the two playoff games. But like

1247
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 2: I'm I'm still waiting for like I'm making him the

1248
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 2: wide receiver five and then just kind of looking at

1249
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 2: like the season long okay, like how like you know

1250
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 2: wide receiver three, wide receiver four, wide receiver five shares,

1251
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 2: You're kind of doing it that way.

1252
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, I got them.

1253
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 2: At fifteen, But how many ropes run do you have

1254
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 2: the ride receivers of the rams? That is the question

1255
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 2: or tight end for because I got them at like

1256
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 2: one point one, one point one five combined like essentially

1257
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 2: like per per dropback got around.

1258
01:03:56,440 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 1: Where you have it? Yeah, like right now like one point.

1259
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 2: To Oh okay, so you have a little highre okay, yeah,

1260
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 2: it's and then the wide receivers around like two point

1261
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 2: six ish two point five to two point five.

1262
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: Point six and then tiring and quorums is staying in

1263
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 1: the block and not seeing targets.

1264
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 2: Yeah right, Yeah, they'll get like seventy seventy ish.

1265
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's very tough to project.

1266
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 2: Like the I think the wide receivers is like with

1267
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 2: Adam's in they've been around two point six. So that's

1268
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 2: that's kind of what I'm starting that's my starting point.

1269
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 1: With with that.

1270
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's I don't know, I don't know, like

1271
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 2: this is like I feel like there's some there's some

1272
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 2: like upside for like a touchdown from like you know,

1273
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 2: hageb or Allen, especially if the market kind of waits

1274
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 2: the recency even more than we are because Ferguson is

1275
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 2: like more of like a.

1276
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 1: Third down hurry up guy.

1277
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 2: So like, if I just WoT the Seahawks to win

1278
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 2: this game, Rams have just been so like they've been

1279
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 2: traveling so much. But if the Rams are in a

1280
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 2: good game script, Ferguson probably would go down.

1281
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 1: So that that's yeah, that's to note. All right, enough

1282
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 1: Rams tight end talk.

1283
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 2: That's for our NFL Holford's Championship Player Projections episode here

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