1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here 3 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 2: are the stories we're following today, Karen. 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 3: We are less than three weeks from the Federal Reserve's 5 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 3: next interest rate decision, and one of the leading candidates 6 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 3: to replace j. Powellis FED chair next year is calling 7 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 3: for a quarter point rate cut, not a half point. 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 3: FED Governor Christopher Waller spoke at a conference hosted by 9 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 3: the Economic Club of Miami. 10 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 4: Well, I judge that the FMC should have begun this 11 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 4: process in July based on the data in hand, I 12 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 4: don't believe that a cut of larger than twenty five 13 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 4: basis points is needed in September. Now. That view, of course, 14 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 4: could change, if the employment report for August do out 15 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 4: a week from tomorrow points to a substantially weakening economy 16 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 4: and inflation remains well contained. 17 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 3: FAT Governor Chris Waller voted against this month's decision to 18 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 3: hold the Fed's bench great steady. He says he anticipates 19 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 3: more cuts over the next three to six months. While 20 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 3: those remarks are the first by a top FED official 21 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 3: since President Trump moved this week to fire Lisa Cook, 22 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 3: and now. 23 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: Nathan Matt moved to fire Governor Cook is headed for 24 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 2: a showdown in court. A federal judge has said a 25 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 2: hearing for ten this morning Wall Street Time on Cook's 26 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: request for a restraining order to keep her on the 27 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: Fed's Board of Governors. And now Cook is offering an 28 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: explanation for the mortgage dispute at the center of the 29 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: case in her lawsuit against the president. But yet more 30 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 2: from Bloomberg Legal reporter Eric Larson. 31 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 5: She did not explicitly deny the allegations, but clearly at 32 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 5: this stage in the case, they're signaling a potential defense here, 33 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 5: which is that not only could this be a clerical error, 34 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 5: but that it wasn't material to any decisions that were 35 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 5: made on these mortgages, that no one was harmed by it. 36 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 5: And really that's regardless. It's not cause to fire her 37 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 5: because these mortgages were done a year before she joined 38 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 5: the board and has nothing to do with her job. 39 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: And as Bloomberg Legal reporter Eric Larson, meanwhile, the Trump 40 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: administration is putting even more pressure on Cook. Federal Housing 41 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 2: Finance Agency Director Bill Poulti has sent a new criminal 42 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: referral over a third property in Massachusetts. Poulty says Cook 43 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 2: originally claimed it was a second home, but later listed 44 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: it as an investment property. 45 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Karen, it looks like the Trump administration's plans to 46 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 3: fast track Stephen Myron's confirmation to the FED Board is 47 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 3: working out. We get more on that from Bloomberg's Denise Pellegrini. 48 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 6: The Senate Banking Committee will hold a hearing September fourth 49 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 6: on Myrinten's confirmation as FED Governor to replace Audreana Kugler 50 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 6: after she resigned. Myronen will likely be grilled over President 51 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 6: Hump's economic policies and efforts to influence the Fed. But 52 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 6: Democrats also say privately they can't block Myron's ascension on 53 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 6: their own, and under the rules they can only hold 54 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 6: things up briefly in the committee and then only for 55 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,679 Speaker 6: a few days on the Senate floor. Also, remember no 56 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 6: Republicans voted against Myron as chair of the Council of 57 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 6: Economic Advisors earlier this year, meaning Myron could well be 58 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 6: confirmed as FED Governor before the Bank's two day rate 59 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 6: setting meeting in mid September. Denise Pelgriny Bloomberg Radio, all. 60 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: Right, Denise, thank you. The shake up at the Centers 61 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 2: for Disease Control continues. Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. 62 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 2: Kennedy Junior has named his top deputy, Jim O'Neill, as 63 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 2: acting CDC director. This is after the White House fire 64 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: the previous director, Susan Minares, less than a month into 65 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 2: the job after she confronted Kennedy over his vaccine stance. 66 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 2: Kennedy says the agency needs an overhaul. 67 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 7: There's a lot of trouble at CDC, and it's going 68 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 7: to require getting rid of some people over the long 69 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 7: term in order for us to change the institutional culture 70 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 7: and bring back pride and self esteem, make that agency 71 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 7: the stellar agency that it's always been. 72 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: How Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Junior spoke at an event 73 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: in Texas. Some Senate Republicans have expressed alarm over Manarez 74 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: is firing. The Wall Street Journal report. Senator Built Cassidy 75 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: is called on AHHS to postpone a meeting of its 76 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 2: Vaccine Advisory Committee next month due to questions about its membership. 77 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 3: Turning to the economy now, Karen, Inflation is in focus 78 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 3: this morning with the FED. With the release of the 79 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 3: Fed's preferred price gauge Bloomberg's Michael McKee reports July's PCE 80 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 3: print is likely to show quicker inflation. 81 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 8: The Fed's two percent inflation target is based on the 82 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 8: PCE index, but today's reading likely won't sway any votes 83 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 8: at the FED September seventeenth meeting. PCE is put together 84 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 8: from data collected in other inflation surveys. After the consumer 85 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 8: and producer price indexes are released, economists can calculate a 86 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 8: close approximation of what PCE will be. The forecast is 87 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 8: for a slight decline in month over month inflation and 88 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 8: no change in the annual figure. Any significant deviation might 89 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 8: generate a market reaction, but more likely look to the 90 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:00,559 Speaker 8: September eleventh release of the CPI for guidance on the FED. 91 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 8: Michael McKee Bloomberg Radio. 92 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 2: Allright, Mike, thank you well. Futures are lower ahead of 93 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 2: that key inflation report. Yesterday, the S and P five 94 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 2: hundred closed above sixty five hundred for the first time. 95 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: Keith Lerner, the chief market strategist at Truest Advisory Services, 96 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:16,239 Speaker 2: remains bullish on tech. 97 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 9: From the lows in April, the S and P is 98 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 9: up thirty percent. The tech sector is up about fifty one. 99 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 9: The term was still bullsh on technology, with still bullsh 100 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 9: on the AI theme. 101 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: And truest advisory services Keith Lerner. This is the last 102 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: trading day of August. Over the last seventy five years, 103 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 2: the S and P five hundred has posted an average 104 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 2: drop of sevent tenths percent in September, making it the 105 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,239 Speaker 2: worst performing month for stocks. 106 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,119 Speaker 3: Let's see how some individual stocks are performing this morning. 107 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 3: Karen Shares of Dell are down more than six percent. 108 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 3: The computer maker reported fewer sales of artificial intelligence servers 109 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 3: and lower profit margins than analyst estimates. Shares of Marvel 110 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 3: are down thirteen percent. Data center revenue missed. On the 111 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 3: flip side, shares of Petco are surging eighteen and a 112 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 3: half percent. The pet retailer raised its earnings targets for 113 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 3: the year. 114 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 2: And now to the latest on the war in Ukraine, 115 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 2: Nathan German and Chancellor Frederick Mertz says a meeting between 116 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenski and Russia's Vladimir Putin is unlikely 117 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 2: to materialize. The news comes as Russia unleashed a new 118 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 2: wave of drone and missile strikes on Kiev and defiance 119 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 2: of US calls for an end to the fighting. White 120 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 2: House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt says President Trump is not 121 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 2: happy or surprised. 122 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 10: This killing unfortunately, will continue as long as the war continues, 123 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 10: which is why the President wants it to end, and 124 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 10: that's why he's worked harder than anyone to end this war. 125 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 10: But perhaps both sides of this war are not ready 126 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 10: to end. 127 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 2: It themselves, white House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt. Later today, 128 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 2: senior Ukrainian officials are expected to travel to the US 129 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 2: to exchange ideas on post war security with members of 130 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 2: the Trump administration. Time now for look at some of 131 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: the other stories making news in New York and around 132 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 2: the world, and for never joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr Michael, 133 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: Good Morning. 134 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 11: Good morning Karen. Police the Minneapolis say they are looking 135 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 11: for a clear motive and Wednesday shooting at a Minneapolis 136 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 11: Catholic church that left two children dead and seventeen others injured. 137 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 11: The shooter, twenty three year old Robin Westman, died of 138 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 11: an apparent self inflicted gunshot wound at the scene. Police 139 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 11: characterized Westman as full of hate. Authorities say they recovered 140 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 11: one hundred and sixteen rifle rounds at the scene, along 141 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 11: with three shotgun shells. Meanwhile, the father of one of 142 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 11: the two children killed in the shooting is asking for 143 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 11: his son to be remembered for who he was and 144 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 11: not as the victim of a mass shooting. Jesse Merkle's son, 145 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 11: eight year old Fletcher Merkele, was killed inside an Unciation 146 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 11: Catholic church. 147 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 12: While the whole in our hearts and wives will never 148 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 12: be filled. I hope been time our family can find healing. 149 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 12: I pray that the other victims family can find some 150 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 12: Semblents of the. 151 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 11: Scene also killed ten year old Harper Moyski. Reverend Al 152 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 11: Sharpton led a protest march on Wall Street, urging corporations 153 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 11: to resist the Trump administration's push to rollmack DEEI initiatives. 154 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 11: Sharpton was joined by thousands of people, including leaders of 155 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 11: church unions and organizations. Reverend Sharpton called President Trump and 156 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 11: anti dreamers who want to cut Medicaid and snap to 157 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 11: pay for tax breaks. 158 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 13: For the rich, why didn't we come to Wall Street? 159 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,599 Speaker 7: Since you have benefited from Trump. 160 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 11: We come to tell you your benefit pays a number. 161 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 1: We're not going back. 162 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 11: Among those who participated in the march include New York 163 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 11: Democratic mayoral candidate Zoron Memdani. Many Americans are traveling this 164 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 11: holiday weekend trip as Iike Sadiaz has a pro tip 165 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 11: on when you should leave if you're driving. 166 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 14: Properably, anytime before lunchtime and on Saturday before ten am, 167 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 14: because Saturday we are expecting between ten am and six 168 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 14: pm to be extra busy because if people don't want 169 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 14: to take off work on. 170 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 11: Friday, gas prices are at a five year low. Global 171 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 11: news twenty four hours a day, and whenever you wanted 172 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 11: with Bloomberg News. Now, I'm Michael Barr, and this is 173 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 11: Bloomberg Karen. 174 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 8: Thanks Michael. 175 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 2: Time now for our Bloomberg Sports dating. For that, we 176 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: bring in John Stashower. 177 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 11: Thanks Daron. 178 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 15: A blockbuster trade in the NFL, Dallas's pass rusher Michael 179 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 15: Parsons wanted a new contract, demanded a trade, and he 180 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 15: got one. He's going to the Green Bay Packers. The 181 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 15: Cowboys in return get defensive tackled Kenny Clark and first 182 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 15: round draft picks the next two years. Parsons has already 183 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 15: agreed to a new deal with the Packers for four 184 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 15: years and one hundred and eighty eight million dollars a 185 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 15: US Open match that ended just before two am. It 186 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 15: lasted four and a half hours. Tommy Paul won five cents. 187 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 15: That's your Bloomberg Sports update. 188 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 2: Stay with us. 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A hearing is set for 196 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 3: ten am Wall Street time on Federal Reserve Governor Lisa 197 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 3: Cook's request for a restraining order against the President's moved 198 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 3: to fire her for cause over her mortgages. White House 199 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 3: Press Secretary Caroline Levitt says, the President is ready. 200 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 10: He has the cause that he needs to fire this individual. 201 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 10: He laid it out in the letter that he provided 202 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 10: to her into the public as well, and so we'll 203 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 10: continue to fight this battle. 204 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 3: That was White House spokeswoman Caroline Levitt. And joining us 205 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 3: now is Terry Haines, the founder of Pangaea policy. Great 206 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 3: to speak with you this morning, Terry. But that really 207 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 3: is the question, isn't it whether the president has the cause? 208 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 13: Good morning, Good morning, Nathan. You know, I'll give you 209 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 13: a threshold. The threshold is really factual. You know, those 210 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 13: of us with certain hair color will remember Jack Webb 211 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 13: and Dragnet talking about just the facts. Well, this is 212 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 13: just the facts. Whether or not the president can do 213 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 13: what the President says he intends to do, it depends 214 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 13: on the facts surrounding the Cook situation. So far, we 215 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 13: don't have any of those facts, and I would urge 216 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 13: people not to assume that they understand what's going on. 217 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 13: It's developing situations still, as recent headlines show, So I'd 218 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 13: hold off on that. And that also matters for in 219 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 13: court for standing purposes. If you're asking somebody court not 220 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 13: to remove you and you haven't been removed, that's another 221 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 13: level of complexity. 222 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 11: Yeah. 223 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 3: Well, we've seen from the lawsuit that Governor Cook has 224 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 3: filed against this move. She's saying that it could amount 225 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 3: to a clerical error and that the president's attempt to 226 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 3: fire her is a power grab that could do irreparable 227 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 3: harm to the US economy. What do you make of 228 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 3: Governor Cook's defense. 229 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 13: Here as it's developing. I think she's ultimately going to 230 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 13: need to prove that She's not going to have to 231 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 13: prove that today in court, of course. Firstly, Secondly, I 232 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 13: think the president's ability to fire for cause here depends 233 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 13: entirely on what those facts are are. If there's a 234 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 13: lot more and the behavior is a lot worse than 235 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 13: has already been reported, then President's case gets stronger. But 236 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 13: if the case the case is weaker, the case is 237 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 13: non existent, then the president really doesn't have the ability. Thirdly, 238 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 13: I think it's a mistake for folks to think that 239 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 13: this is about Trump versus the FED or Trump versus 240 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 13: Cook on two regards. One, the FED is a congressional 241 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 13: agency exercises congressional power, so Congress is going to have 242 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 13: a lot say about that. And secondly, you're you're in 243 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 13: a situation here where I don't think they're I don't 244 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 13: think FED independence today is presented as kind of the 245 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 13: existential question. You're wrapping up the removal of one governor 246 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 13: with FED independence. I think you're barking up the wrong tree, 247 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 13: and I think you're virtual signaling more than a little 248 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 13: bit Frankly. 249 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 3: Now, well, there has been some reporting from Bloomberg News 250 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 3: this week that the President is considering pulling levers on 251 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 3: vetting a FED bank presidents as well. What could this 252 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 3: continued scrutiny of the FED bean for markets? 253 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 13: Well, I think the I understand people are reporting those things, 254 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 13: and wouldn't surprise me if they're The administration is looking 255 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 13: at all kinds of alternatives. But at the same time, 256 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 13: what you've seen with the governor so far, you know, 257 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 13: in the midst of all the all the penell attacks, 258 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 13: is that they haven't changed their position, you know, and 259 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 13: even even a whiller today as you report, suggests a 260 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 13: quarter point rather than a half point is appropriate. It's 261 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 13: something which I'm sure doesn't please the White House, although 262 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 13: he notes that they're more more data will come in 263 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 13: next week that may change his view. But these folks 264 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 13: have not shown that they're cowed, number one, so I 265 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 13: expect them to continue not to be cowed. Secondly, Trump 266 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 13: can nominate anybody who wants to the FED, but it's 267 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 13: the Senate. It's up to the Senate to approve them, 268 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 13: and the Senate has shown even the Democratic Senate and 269 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 13: Biden days has shown they're not rubber stamps. 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