1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your guide to 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: the White Tail Woods, presented by first Light, creating proven 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: versatile hunting apparel for the stand, saddle or blind. First 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: Light Go Farther, Stay Longer, and now your host, Mark Kenyon. 5 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. This week on 6 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 2: the show, I'm going to be breaking down how I 7 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: just killed my mid October Michigan buck and the tactics 8 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 2: I use that can help you now and through the 9 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 2: rest of the season to tag your own deer. All right, 10 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 2: welcome back to the Wire to Hunt podcast. We are 11 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: here with a special, emergency, impromptu, unexpected just you and 12 00:00:54,800 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 2: me show because this isn't something I usually do, but 13 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: when the time is right, when the iron is hot, 14 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: when things are happening, I want to jump in and 15 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: give you the latest information, the most recent updates and 16 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 2: stories that are fresh off the presses. And this one 17 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 2: is very hot because I just killed a buck mid October. 18 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 2: October to lol, as they say, was not so slow 19 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: for me this year. And what I want to do 20 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: for you here today is to walk you through exactly 21 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: how I killed this deer, the things I did in 22 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 2: the off season, the plan I put together the conditions 23 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 2: that I waited for to make my strike, and the 24 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 2: very specific set of circumstances that led to one of 25 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: the most intense deer hunts of my entire life. This was, 26 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: I guess, without giving too much weight right now, this 27 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: was one of those very rare times when you put 28 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: a specific hunting plant together, like a very detailed I'm 29 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 2: going to do it here, I'm going to do it 30 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 2: at this point. This is what the deer is gonna do, 31 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 2: this is where I'm gonna be, this is how it's 32 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: all gonna work out. And then have it actually worked 33 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: that way. I mean, I oftentimes have plans like that, 34 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: but you know, nine point nine times out of ten 35 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 2: doesn't work out well. This time it worked almost exactly 36 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 2: to a t. So I want to share with you 37 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 2: exactly how that happened and then kind of take a 38 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: step back and try to make this relatable and useful 39 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: for all of you and talking through a couple of 40 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 2: the takeaways, a couple of the things that I did 41 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 2: here and that I think we're reinforced for me as 42 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: lessons that can help you. In mid October, in late October, 43 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: all the way through November. I want to give you 44 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: some specific ideas that can help you have more success 45 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 2: this hunting season, no matter when you're listening. So that 46 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: is the game plan. That's what we're doing here. And 47 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 2: it's just like I said, gonna be pretty casual. I'm 48 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 2: going to walk you through. This stuff is fresh on 49 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 2: my mind because this all just happened last night and 50 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 2: I'm I'm excited. I'm feeling very thankful. Maybe haven't had 51 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 2: quite enough time to process it, but that's what I'm 52 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 2: gonna be doing here today. I'm gonna be processing live 53 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: on the air with you guys, and we'll see, we'll 54 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 2: see what comes out of this. So this story is 55 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 2: a shorter story in some ways than others you've heard 56 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 2: because this is not a three or four year hunt. 57 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 2: This isn't like the Wide nine hunt that was four 58 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 2: years of history with one specific deer, which, by the way, 59 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 2: if you haven't watched that film yet, it's on the 60 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 2: Mediator YouTube channel. Doing a shameless plug here, but check 61 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: out the four year Hunt for the Wide nine at 62 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: the Mediator YouTube channel. I really think you guys will 63 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: enjoy that. It's like a forty minute film dives deep 64 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: into that story, lots ups and downs, This was not 65 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: that kind of hunt, because this is a location that 66 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 2: I just started hunting this year, and this deer was 67 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: killed on my very first time hunting this spot, so 68 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 2: very different than the Wide nine story. But I will 69 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 2: rewind the clock a little bit because this hunt started 70 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: this past summer. Some of this stuff I mentioned earlier 71 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 2: in the year kind of prepping you guys, and when 72 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 2: we talked through our goals, hopes and hit lists podcasts 73 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: in the summer, I shared some of this, but I'm 74 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 2: going to give you the full recap now, just in 75 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 2: case you didn't hear that. So earlier this year, I 76 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 2: lost access to a property that I hunted last year. 77 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 2: That property got sold. It was a nice farm, a 78 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: pretty good size. I you know, had kind of depended 79 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 2: on that one as a really great kind of plan 80 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 2: B type spot to spend some time. And so coming 81 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 2: into this summer, I knew I again had to find 82 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: more access, and so I just kind of came into 83 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 2: this year going back, I guess to my roots. I 84 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 2: kind of wanted to get back to what I did 85 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 2: ten fifteen years ago when I just remember, you know, 86 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 2: I was I don't know, like twenties, mid twenties, and 87 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: anytime I ran into someone who maybe had some land, 88 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 2: I would, you know, bring up deer hunting and just 89 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 2: happen to see if there might be an opportunity there. 90 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 2: I was knocking on doors, I was asking around, I 91 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: was talking to family and friends, and I just want 92 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 2: to get a little bit more of that happening. So 93 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: this year, talk to a number of different people, just 94 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 2: asking around, seeing if there was anyone who maybe I 95 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: hadn't known of in the past that had a little 96 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: bit of land they might be willing to share access to. 97 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 2: And to make a long story short, I did pick 98 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 2: up some new spots. I picked up some stuff in 99 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 2: Illinois as we talked about, and then picked up several 100 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 2: spots in Michigan as well. And I think the main 101 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 2: takeaway here with the access thing is to never turn 102 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: your nose up on a spot, to never judge a 103 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 2: book by its cover. Because one of the parcels that 104 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 2: I got access to didn't have a whole lot going 105 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 2: for it. It was mostly just a big farm field. 106 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 2: And I remember when I got permission on this piece, 107 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 2: I pulled up the maps and I looked at everything, 108 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 2: and some of these spots just feels, you know, not 109 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 2: a great chance to kill a mature buck in that 110 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 2: kind of spot. So I thought, Okay, you know, I'll 111 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 2: shoot some dos there, help out this farmer, do you 112 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 2: know my management duties. But I don't know if this 113 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 2: will be a spot I'm gonna, you know, get a 114 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 2: crack at an older deer. But one of these spots, 115 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 2: when I looked at that aerial, you could see that 116 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: it butted up to a really impressive looking swamp, a 117 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,239 Speaker 2: good swamp system, a place that I'd kind of driven 118 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 2: around in the past, was aware of, had always wanted 119 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 2: to get access somewhere around this swamp, and this property 120 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: butted up to it and had a little bit of 121 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 2: cover on the backside of it. Something like four acres 122 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: is what I kind of was able to measure. The 123 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 2: area of actual color. This is grass brushy stuff, some 124 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: autumn olive, some scrubby willows that kind of stuff, some buckthorn, 125 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 2: so good cover, but a very small amount of it, 126 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 2: and then cornfield for ninety seven percent of the property. 127 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 2: What it had going for it again was it butts 128 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 2: up into this great big swamp, which is you know 129 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 2: in places like Michigan where there's a lot of hunting pressure. 130 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 2: It's always going to be different depending on where you're at. 131 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 2: But for me in southern Michigan, the sanctuaries oftentimes are swamps, wet, 132 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 2: big nasty, thick stuff that other hunters typically don't want 133 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: to go into. That's where deer can get a little 134 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 2: bit of age on them in my area. You know, 135 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: in Wisconsin it might be big, hilly, nasty topography. In Iowa, 136 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: maybe it's a big open crp field. There's no trees 137 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 2: around and so hunters can't hunt traditionally there. Whatever it is, 138 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 2: finding those sanctuaries is huge, and so I knew even 139 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 2: though this is a very small huntable area, it was 140 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 2: next to a really good looking sanctuary. So I kind 141 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 2: of flagged that as hey, this is still worth a 142 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 2: checkout even though it's pretty small. So late in the 143 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: summer I went out there. I did a speed scout. 144 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: I walked the outside edge of the field. I walked 145 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 2: that back section to cover. I marked and the scrapes 146 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 2: that I found or spots looked like they would be 147 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 2: historically scrapes where you can still kind of see the 148 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 2: remnant opening underneath these overhanging branches. I marked the major 149 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 2: trails leaving the swamp heading into my section and heading 150 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 2: into the cornfield, and I did notice a couple things 151 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 2: that I really liked. Two spots in particular stood out. 152 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 2: One of them was this little cluster of oaks on 153 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: this transition between the swamp and the corn and so 154 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 2: in this cluster of oaks, it's maybe an acre, but big, 155 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 2: healthy looking white oak trees. And one of these awesome 156 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 2: scrapes right at the hell convergence of two or three 157 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: different trails. So I marked that. I found a tree 158 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: that would be downwind of the typical winds. I thought 159 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 2: about how I would access it, and I put a 160 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 2: camera on this scrape in that spot, set that up, 161 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: moved on, continuing on to a different part of this 162 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 2: little four acre piece. I found another spot that was 163 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 2: very interesting, And here was a ditch that came out 164 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 2: of the swamp and stopped right before it got to 165 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 2: the cornfield. And I thought to myself, when I looked 166 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 2: at that, where that ditch and is like a full, 167 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 2: you know, a water filled ditch. And I saw that, 168 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 2: and it was pretty wide, and it did not look 169 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 2: like something that deer would want to jump over if 170 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 2: they didn't have to. I immediately thought, this is a 171 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 2: travel pinch. This is a spot where deer going to 172 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 2: funnel around the ditch and be pressed up alongside this cornfield. 173 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: I then saw buck, thorn, tree, bush orrub whatever you 174 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 2: technically want to call it. It was leaning right out 175 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 2: next to that ditch that had a big old opening 176 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 2: underneath it where you could just tell for years deer 177 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 2: had been making scrapes underneath that. And then as I 178 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 2: had approached that, I had also bumped a buck that 179 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 2: was bedded out on these little two fingers of timber 180 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 2: that extended that timber. It's more like brushy shrubs and 181 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 2: very small scruby trees, but there was two fingers that 182 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 2: extended alongside either side of the ditch, going in towards 183 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 2: that swampy section. And as I walked past that, I 184 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 2: bumped what looked like a decent buck off the end 185 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: of one of those points. So all of that is 186 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 2: telling me, all right, there's some bedding here, there's this 187 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 2: pinch here, there's a standing corn behind, there's an obviously 188 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 2: well used annual scrape right here. All of it made 189 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 2: my spidery senses tingled big time. So again I thought, okay, 190 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 2: this is an absolute great hunting location. I like what 191 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 2: I see here. You could see deer using this in October, 192 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 2: coming out to feed from that swamp, heading out into 193 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 2: the corn. I thought, you know, also during the rut, 194 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 2: there's gonna be does coming out and feeding here. This 195 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 2: ditch might pinch a little bit of that movement in 196 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: front of me. Problem was, as I searched around, as 197 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 2: I looked around this whole area, there was no tree 198 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 2: as you'd get up into. There was no options whatsoever 199 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 2: within shooting range, even really outside of shooting range unless 200 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 2: you got like sixty seventy yards away to get a 201 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 2: saddle or a tree stand somewhere. So I remember standing 202 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 2: there this summer thinking, what the heck do you do? 203 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 2: How would I make this work? And maybe in the 204 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 2: past I would have just moved on. I would have said, Eh, 205 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,599 Speaker 2: can't hunt it, No tree, can't do it. But I 206 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 2: remember thinking, like, this is a spot you have to 207 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 2: be and there's got to be a way to make 208 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 2: it work. So I first thought maybe I could hide 209 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 2: in the ditch, like maybe I can get down and 210 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: stand in the water, or stand on the bank and 211 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 2: hide underneath those underneath the weeds and wait for deer 212 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 2: to come by. Maybe I could shoot from that position. 213 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 2: But then I got to thinking, the only way to 214 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 2: hunt this area would be with a wind pushing from 215 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 2: that ditch out into the field. Otherwise, if you have 216 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 2: a wind blowing somewhere else, it's blowing into where all 217 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: this deer coming from. Just wouldn't work. So I then 218 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 2: thought I could probably hide in the corn. And this 219 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 2: was a really key thing for me, was realizing that 220 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: I can use that standing corn basically as a blind. Right, 221 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 2: you see a lot of people who own land putting 222 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 2: pop up blinds or haybal blinds or even tower blinds 223 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 2: in or right behind standing corn. Like some people will 224 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 2: even have a cornfield, they'll mow some of it down 225 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 2: and then they'll have their pop up blind right inside 226 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 2: the standing corn. Well, I can't do that, but I 227 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 2: could basically use the standing corn like a blind. I 228 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 2: could hide in it, just stand in it, or crouch 229 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: down in it. So I walked out there about twenty 230 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 2: five thirty yards from where I wanted to be able 231 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 2: to shoot to, and I started looking around and fortunately, 232 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 2: maybe not for the farmer, but for me as a hunter, 233 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 2: a lot of that corn had been eaten by deer, 234 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 2: so there was a lot of it knocked down, so 235 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 2: there was it almost was like someone came in and 236 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 2: mowed some of this stuff down, because it was pretty 237 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 2: good openings. So I found a spot where I was 238 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 2: back far enough that I was right on the edge 239 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 2: of the standing corn and then had this kind of 240 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 2: knockdown corn in front of me, and I just marked 241 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 2: a waypoint on Onyx and said, all right, this is 242 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 2: the spot that has the most lanes to different places 243 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: that I think deer might come through. It has me 244 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 2: within shooting range of that ditch funnel and I can 245 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 2: see that scrape. So I marked it and said, all right, 246 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna come back at some point, and this is 247 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 2: gonna be the spot to hunt if I want to 248 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 2: hunt the ditch. So that's where I left things. I 249 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 2: had a camera on that scrape. I marked the way point, 250 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 2: finished my little quick spout scouting, walk through there, and 251 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 2: pieced out. I was done. That takes me to I 252 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 2: don't know, sometime in August, late August, and pictures started 253 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 2: rolling in on those two cameras that I had and 254 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 2: ended up being pretty promising. There was a handful of 255 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 2: nice deer, nothing giant but some bucks that or maybe two, 256 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 2: maybe three, maybe four, and then finally this crazy big 257 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 2: browtime buck just like crazy big brow times, like eye 258 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 2: popping ten eleven I don't know at the time, maybe 259 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 2: twelve inch long brow times is what it looked like 260 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 2: to me when looking at those first velvet photos. So 261 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 2: super exciting. I've never had a buck like that anywhere 262 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 2: I could hunt, and showed my kids the pictures. An Ever, 263 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: my oldest wanted to call them tall brows. So this 264 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 2: dear right away stood out. And fortunately, over the rest 265 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 2: of the summer, late August and September, that deer showed 266 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 2: up somewhat consistently, not over and over and over again, 267 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: but enough to know he was in the area. He 268 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 2: was using this cornfield, and he called this zone home 269 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 2: at least. So fast forward, as the season is approaching, 270 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 2: I'm continuing to monitor these cameras. I'm monitoring different properties 271 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 2: I have to hunt. I do some drives around these 272 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 2: various neighborhoods, just trying to see if there's any deer 273 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 2: in the field, just trying to get a sense of 274 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 2: what else is out there, and slowly start putting together 275 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 2: a game plan. The approach that I am taking this 276 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 2: year is to be a little bit more spread out, 277 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 2: to try to keep tabs and what deer are around 278 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 2: to collect collect collect information through cameras, through long distance glassing, 279 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 2: through the occasional observation stand type hunt, and sometimes doing 280 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 2: a quick drive through or walk through, and trying to 281 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 2: scout a little bit on foot and hunt the properties 282 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 2: that have a potentially active deer. So I'm not going 283 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 2: to overhunt any one particular property after one particular deer. 284 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 2: I'm a little bit more open to what I'm targeting 285 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: this year. Last year is very much wide nine. This 286 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 2: year there's a handful of different deer, some spots here 287 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 2: in southern Michigan, some spots up in northern Michigan, and 288 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to go where the iron seems hot and 289 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 2: where the conditions seem right. So in this case, there's 290 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 2: a few things that had to be lined up for 291 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 2: me to want to hunt this particular small property. I 292 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 2: knew I would not be ill hunted a lot, because 293 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 2: again it's small and you could burn it out pretty quickly. 294 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 2: There's one or two spots. There really was nowhere else 295 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 2: you could hunt on this piece, and so I was 296 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 2: looking to make very targeted strikes, so waiting for the 297 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 2: right moment and then give it a shot and then 298 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 2: back out for a while and maybe give it one 299 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 2: more shot. But this wasn't a place that I could 300 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 2: hunt over and over and over and bump around here 301 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 2: and try this spot and try this spot and try 302 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 2: that spot, to wait until I felt pretty darn confident. 303 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 2: So I was number one infrequent hunting in this particular location. 304 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 2: That doesn't mean I'm not going to hunt other places, 305 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 2: but for this spot, it's got to be the right time, 306 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 2: the right moment for a deer that I actually want 307 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 2: to take a crack at. The one main deer that 308 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 2: I want to take a crack aut on this property 309 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 2: was for sure, that tall browtime buck. There was another 310 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 2: eight pointer who looked like maybe he was four, with 311 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 2: short brow times that I thought, if that deer hangs 312 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 2: out here a lot, I might be interested in that one. 313 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 2: But the tall browbuck was there the most, probably maybe 314 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 2: of any of the other deer I was seeing across 315 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 2: those two different camera locations. He was showing up somewhat frequently. Now, 316 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 2: in order to hunt him, I mentioned any of those 317 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 2: right conditions. A couple things. I needed some kind of 318 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 2: wind that was not blowing into the swamp. I could 319 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 2: get away with maybe a straight north or a straight south, 320 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 2: a parallel it, or I could get something that's blowing 321 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 2: like northwest or southwest coming out of the swamp, but 322 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 2: I couldn't have anything going into the swamp. So that 323 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 2: was a key thing. Secondly, as I started seeing pictures 324 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 2: rolling of this deer, I was getting a basic sense 325 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 2: of the fact that he spent a decent amount of 326 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 2: time in this zone, and he was showing up on 327 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 2: the edges of daylight. In a few times in daylight, 328 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 2: I had mooring pictures of him coming into bed before 329 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 2: the sum was up, and then I had a couple 330 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 2: days where he came out before dark in the evening, 331 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 2: so he's bedded somewhere on this side of the swamp. 332 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 2: I knew that my cameras would just telling me a 333 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 2: slice of the story. So if I got two pictures 334 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 2: of him around daylight or close to daylight, he was 335 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 2: probably coming out more often than not, just different spots 336 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 2: that I can't monitor. So what I knew I wanted 337 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 2: to do was was wait until I had that right 338 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 2: set of winds and then a trigger, which for me 339 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 2: usually is a cold from some kind. I want some 340 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 2: cooler weather coming in. I want a weather change, ideally, 341 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 2: you know, ten plus degrees, fifteen plus degrees of a 342 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 2: temperature drop. That's something I really want to see. If 343 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 2: I see that in October, I'm I'm interested in taking 344 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 2: a more aggressive swing on one of my spots. So 345 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 2: I needed that. Another key thing with this particular spot 346 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 2: is that I had to walk through a standing cornfield 347 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 2: all the way to get to this location. And then 348 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 2: I needed, you know, sneak in standing corn and set 349 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 2: up close to where these deer or some of these 350 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 2: deer are probably betted right So I remember thinking to myself, like, 351 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 2: this is gonna be very hard to pull off if 352 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 2: it's a very dry and very still. I need some 353 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 2: wind cover or I need rain cover to be able 354 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 2: to move through all this standing corn and get set 355 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 2: up in the corn without alerting deer that maybe are 356 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 2: better right off those little points that wouldn't be that 357 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 2: far away. These bucks could have been bedded sixty yards away, 358 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 2: maybe from where I'd be trying to set up. So 359 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 2: as I was watching the forecast, I need wind direction. 360 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 2: I wanted the cold front. I wanted wind or rain, 361 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 2: so I could stealthily move in there. And then finally, 362 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 2: like I mentioned, I would love it if I had 363 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 2: photos that told me again he's you know, give me 364 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 2: some confidence that he's still in the zone. And so 365 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 2: that's what I ended up getting. All of these things, 366 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 2: these stars all aligned here. Just recently, the evening of 367 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 2: October thirteenth, I had the cold front moved through. Temperatures 368 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 2: dropped from I think the seventies on Friday all the 369 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 2: way down to fifties and high forties by Sunday. I 370 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 2: had a west northwest wind, so this wind was blowing 371 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 2: away from the cover and down, allowing me to basically 372 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 2: walk with the wind in my face, just kind of 373 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 2: quartering across my face and into my face, straight from 374 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 2: the road all the way through the standing corn. And 375 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 2: then it had been raining for the last day and half, 376 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 2: so everything was wet, everything was quiet, and there was 377 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 2: a little bit of a breeze, so I could sneak 378 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 2: in there completely silent, nothing would hear me. I could 379 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 2: head in there with a wind blowing across my face 380 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 2: and down, so deer might still feel comfortable coming out 381 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 2: to this field. If a buck wanted some degree of 382 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,239 Speaker 2: wind across his face. He could still smell something as 383 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 2: he came out to feed, but he certainly wouldn't smell me. 384 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 2: This cold weather, I thought, would give me a trigger 385 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 2: to get him moving a little bit earlier than usual. 386 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 2: And I had two pictures of him moving in daylight 387 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 2: in the prior ten days, and then I had some 388 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 2: other shots of him coming into bed in that general 389 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 2: zone that ten day window two right around daylight. So 390 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 2: again it's just telling me, I'm I'm probably close to 391 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 2: his bedroom, and now I have this cold front that 392 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 2: I think will get him out here to this food source, 393 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 2: likely a little bit earlier in the day than maybe 394 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 2: he would on others. I've got one of the best 395 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 2: food sources on the edge of this big swamp, so 396 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 2: I believe that there's probably a lot of deer. They're 397 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 2: in a head towards this standing corner field. There's bean 398 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 2: fields in the other area, but those are mostly harvested. 399 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 2: There had not been a freshly cut corn field. That 400 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 2: sometimes is the kind of thing that gets deer flocking 401 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 2: to it, So you know there's a good chance these 402 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 2: deer were feeding the corn. Saw a lot of deer 403 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 2: on cameras doing that. This would be the trigger I 404 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 2: thought that could make it all happen. So based on 405 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 2: all that, the ditch standing corn spot was where it 406 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 2: was going to be. Those were the conditions I was 407 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 2: waiting for, and that's why I was so ideal. I 408 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 2: rushed home from visiting with my family in western Michigan, 409 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 2: got home Sunday afternoon, grabbed my gear, took a cent 410 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 2: freeze shower, slipped out there, walked straight down the rows 411 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 2: of the standing corn right to my pre marked location 412 00:21:55,480 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 2: on my map, and tried to just hum grew down 413 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 2: in the corn, and I remember getting situated in there. 414 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 2: I brought a little matt to kneel on to keep 415 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 2: my knees from getting soaking wet. The whole time. I 416 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 2: remember really trying to be careful about setting up in 417 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 2: the right position, because when you're hunting on the ground, 418 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 2: it's harder to move. It's harder to adjust sometimes than 419 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 2: when you're in a tree right because you just might 420 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 2: not be able to move as much because you're at 421 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 2: ground level with deer. You are at the mercy of 422 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 2: where the deers show up, so you know when you're 423 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 2: up in a tree, they're usually not going to see 424 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 2: you hopefully not at first. So you can move around, 425 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 2: you can readjust you can fix things in the moment, 426 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 2: but you kind of need to have everything fixed just 427 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 2: right on the ground, or at least I want to 428 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 2: try to set it up that way. And I remember 429 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 2: last year I had to hunt on the ground again 430 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 2: without a blind, just hiding in grass. Last year in Nebraska, 431 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 2: it was a similar situation where I knew this is 432 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 2: the spot I had to be to intercept the deer, 433 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 2: but there was no trees, and so when I got there, 434 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 2: just like I did last night, I spent a lot 435 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 2: of time thinking through, Okay, where exactly do I think 436 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 2: these deer might come through? How exactly do I need 437 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 2: to be positioned with my body to be able to 438 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 2: be abd drawback and shoot. I don't want to have 439 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 2: to reposition my body if I don't have to. How 440 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 2: do I best take advantage of cover here on the 441 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 2: ground so that I can hopefully hide down here but 442 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 2: still have some shooting lanes. So all that stuff was 443 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 2: going through my mind last night too. I was using 444 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 2: standing corn right behind me, but I didn't want to 445 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 2: be deep into the standing corn because I wanted to 446 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 2: be able to shoot in front of me and to 447 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 2: the side of me. So I got to the spot 448 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 2: as I mentioned, where there was this push down corn 449 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 2: from the deer feeding already, but there's still some patches 450 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 2: of standing corn here and there. So I kind of 451 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 2: adjusted my location just a little bit to where things 452 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 2: have been changed since the summer. And what I had 453 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 2: was some open push down corn to my right where 454 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 2: it was almost like a quarter acre or a half acre, 455 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 2: almost like food plot looking thing because of the corn 456 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 2: being pushed down. So I knew if any deer came 457 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 2: from the north of me, I could turn and make 458 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 2: an adjustment and take a crack at the deer over there. 459 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 2: If he came north of me from a spot I 460 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 2: wasn't expecting, I would have options. If he came right 461 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 2: out in front of me off one of those two 462 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 2: little brushy fingers and got pinched by the ditch, I 463 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 2: would have a perfect twenty five yard shot right in 464 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 2: front of me, and then I could see the buckthorn 465 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 2: shrub where that big scrape was. Now, I didn't have 466 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 2: a perfect shot to it, but I could likely get 467 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 2: a shot at him as he approached it, or maybe 468 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 2: if I had to make a slight move I could 469 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 2: get a shot, but I didn't want to get any 470 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 2: farther up, any closer to that, which would have given 471 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 2: me a more clear shot to there, but would have 472 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 2: exposed me even more. And that was like the challenge 473 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 2: was trying to get that balance of being able to 474 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 2: stay hidden while also having shot opportunities. So I spent 475 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 2: I don't know, ten fifteen minutes thinking this through and 476 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 2: making tiny adjustments like let's move one yard over here. Okay, 477 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 2: is this right now? I'm gonna move two yards over here. No, 478 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 2: I gotta take advantage of these three cornstalks here. So 479 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 2: really was trying to get that just right, got myself situated, 480 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 2: tried to map out exactly where the best place to 481 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 2: put all my different things where it would be. Again, 482 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 2: it's these little tiny things that many times don't matter, 483 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 2: but sometimes they make all the difference. So I try 484 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 2: to be very thoughtful about all the possibilities. This is 485 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 2: a really key thing that I've talked about a lot. 486 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 2: So I'm beating the dead horse maybe, But every time 487 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 2: I get set up in a location, I try to 488 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 2: walk through every possible scenario and think through can I 489 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 2: draw if a deer comes here? Can I move in 490 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 2: a position if a deer is over there? What will 491 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 2: I do if a deer comes out from behind me? Where? 492 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 2: You know? What? If I miss and I need to 493 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 2: grab another arrow, where's my quiver position? Can I reach 494 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 2: the quiver easily? Can I do it quietly without a 495 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 2: deer noticing? If I need my grunt to Where's that 496 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 2: going to be? If I need to reposition and shoot 497 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 2: up into this open area to the north, what will 498 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 2: I do? Do I have anything in my way that's 499 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 2: going to keep me from being able to make that move? 500 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 2: Is my backpack in the spot that's going to get 501 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 2: in my way? If I have to move to shoot 502 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 2: over by the scrape, etc. Etc. All of those scenarios 503 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 2: went through my mind in that first fifteen minutes as 504 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 2: I sat through and thought through how I want to 505 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 2: position myself here. I get all that done. I'm on 506 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 2: my knees, kind of hunkered down with some scattered standing 507 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 2: corn and then broken down corn in front of me, 508 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 2: effectively giving me a natural ground blowe as best as possible. 509 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 2: And as soon as I get kind of settled, I 510 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 2: hear a deer sneeze, like that kind of sneeze cough sound, 511 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 2: that if you've been out there in the woods long enough, 512 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 2: you've heard that plenty. You can identify it right away. 513 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 2: That's a deer. And it sounded really close. So I'm 514 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 2: laying down almost just hunkered down as low as I could, 515 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 2: because this deer was close. And that was kind of 516 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 2: the name of the game of this hunt is that 517 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 2: stuff would just appear very close. You know, there would 518 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 2: be no deer, and then there would be a deer 519 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 2: thirty five yards away. There would be nothing, and then 520 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 2: there'd be a deer twenty five yards away. Again, it's 521 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 2: it's a breeze and it's rainy, so you can't hear 522 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 2: almost anything or at least very minimal walking sounds. So 523 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 2: the hunt begins with a little buck coming out of 524 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 2: one of these little brushy fingers, walks alongside that dish, 525 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 2: comes right at me and walks within ten yards seven yards, 526 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 2: and I remember just trying to melt into the ground 527 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 2: so he wouldn't see me. And he gets right up 528 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 2: on top of me and then gets into the row 529 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 2: of corn that I'm in and looks straight down the 530 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 2: row and I'm right in the middle of the row, 531 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 2: and he kind of like jolts notices there's a lump 532 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 2: on the ground and bounds away. He doesn't blow, but 533 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 2: he kind of bounds off and then walks away. So 534 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 2: I consider myself lucky that he didn't totally freak out. 535 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 2: But I knew that's like a chink in my armor. 536 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 2: So I then readjusted my location again and again micro adjustment. 537 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,199 Speaker 2: I just realized, I need to set myself up so 538 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 2: if any deer comes into a row, I'm not right 539 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 2: in the middle of that row. I need to use 540 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 2: the row of corn to be to break up my outline. 541 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 2: So there were some dead corn stocks that were kind 542 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 2: of pushed in different places, and I just leaned one 543 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 2: of those in along the side of me, so it 544 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 2: breaks up my outline a little bit more. And then 545 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 2: I slid up twelve inches so that the row of 546 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 2: corn is on either side of me, or at least 547 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 2: on my right side. So instead of my body being 548 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 2: right in the middle of a row, I now have 549 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 2: like half my body in one row half my body 550 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 2: in the other row. And if a deer were to 551 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 2: walk through that looking down the rows, now they're just 552 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 2: seeing a little bit of a clump sticking out from 553 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 2: one row of corn and a little clump sticking out 554 00:28:55,680 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 2: the other but not one big ball that ends up 555 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 2: hang off when I don't know. Ten minutes later, another 556 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 2: buck comes out, does the same thing. Another young deer, 557 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 2: and he comes through right a five yards five to 558 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 2: ten yards again very close, and this time he kind 559 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 2: of walks through eyeballs my area, but doesn't freak and 560 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 2: just walks past into the main standing corn behind me. 561 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 2: Disappears feeding fast forward another our ish and another deer 562 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 2: comes out. This one's a doe. She comes out from 563 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 2: the left side of the ditch and near that scrape. 564 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 2: She actually was standing in the scrape, and then she 565 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 2: comes walking right towards me and walks again to five 566 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 2: yards right into my face, and she's like on top 567 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 2: of me, notices me at five yards and same deal. 568 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 2: She kind of like boogers like, sees me, gets a 569 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 2: little weird, bounds off, stops, turns, stares at me for 570 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 2: a while, stares at me, stares at me, stares at me, 571 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 2: and then couldn't figure it out, turns around slowly walks away. 572 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 2: At this point I thought, hey, you're getting away with it. 573 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 2: This is good news. You haven't had a deer blow 574 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 2: the whole thing up. That's the good news. Bad news 575 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 2: is you're like you're playing with fire, having this many 576 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 2: deer come this close to you. It's bound to blow 577 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 2: up in your face, is I remember I was having 578 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 2: this conversation with myself in my head, like, yikes, this 579 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 2: might not work out because there's too many deer that 580 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 2: are coming right to you. It just seemed like it 581 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 2: was a matter of time until something was gonna just 582 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 2: start blowing and blowing and blowing. Or if a bunch 583 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 2: of deer came out and started feeding and then one 584 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 2: of them gets close. If you know, if you get 585 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 2: a dozen deer all of a sudden running away, that's 586 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 2: going to make a commotion. You can only get away 587 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 2: with so much of that before I'm mature. Buck is 588 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 2: going to know something's going on. But as I was 589 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 2: thinking that, and I remember thinking like, gosh, I don't 590 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 2: know if this is gonna work. I glanced to my 591 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 2: left and I saw antlers in that scrape, and I 592 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 2: pull up my binoculars and can get a better look 593 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 2: through like the brush and the stalks that are there, 594 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 2: and I realize it's him. Tall Brows is right there, 595 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 2: twenty five thirty yards in the scrape there in shooting range, 596 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 2: but behind stuff, I can't get a clear shot. So 597 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 2: that's a holy crap kind of moment. It's not even 598 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 2: six o'clock yet and he's already out there. It had 599 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 2: rained earlier in the day. It actually had been sprinkling 600 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 2: a little bit while I was out there. Now it'd 601 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 2: cleared up, barometric pressure is rising, it's twenty degrees cooler 602 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 2: than it was a day and a half ago. Picture 603 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 2: perfect conditions as far as I'm concerned, and bam, there 604 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 2: he is. But I'm on the ground, hiding in half 605 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 2: stalks of corn, twenty five to thirty yards away from him, 606 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 2: and he's just right there. I never heard him coming. 607 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,479 Speaker 2: I didn't see him coming. I have no ability to 608 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 2: move into position to do anything different. He's just there. 609 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 2: So I just remember at this moment thinking to myself, Okay, 610 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,959 Speaker 2: don't panic, just wait, wait it out. And so as 611 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 2: soon as he kind of turned his head, I waited 612 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 2: there for a while. At this point I could see 613 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 2: his eye like kind of right in my direction, so 614 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 2: I couldn't move. As soon as he turned his head, 615 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 2: I slowly reached over and grab my bow, and I fortunately, 616 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 2: as I described, I had it everything positioned in the 617 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 2: right kind of spot that I should be able to 618 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 2: make something happen without a lot of moving. So I'm 619 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 2: able to reach over the bow, grab the bow, slowly 620 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 2: pull the bow up. I'm low on my knees because 621 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 2: I've been hunkered down because that dough had just passed 622 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 2: through not very long ago. So I was like crouch, 623 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 2: really low. I wasn't like a pie on my knees. 624 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 2: I was down low on my knees, and I can't 625 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 2: shoot from this position like where he is, can't see 626 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 2: his vitals. All I can see is the top of 627 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 2: his head. So as soon as he turns around or 628 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 2: turns away his head a little bit again, I rise 629 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:07,959 Speaker 2: up higher onto my knees. So I go from like 630 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 2: down on my knees, like my butt on the back 631 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 2: of my legs, to now all the way up my knees, 632 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,719 Speaker 2: and I can see him better. But I can now 633 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 2: see that there's still too much corn and brush in 634 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 2: front of his vitals. Now I can see like his 635 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 2: chest up to his head and neck can't move. I'm there, 636 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 2: I have the bow ready. I'm thinking, Okay, how do 637 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 2: I maneuver into a shot, And then he spins and 638 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 2: looks at me, like his head just kind of turns 639 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 2: and just staring at like right in my general direction. 640 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 2: It wasn't like, uh oh, I nailed you, but it 641 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:45,479 Speaker 2: was something got his attention, and in my head, I'm worried, 642 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 2: did he just nail me? Did he bust me? Now? 643 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 2: What follows is a collection of different variations of the 644 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,479 Speaker 2: same thing, happening again and again over the course of 645 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 2: thirty minutes. And it's honestly all of a blur in 646 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 2: my head. So I can't remember which one of these 647 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 2: things happen in which order, but I'll give you the 648 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 2: basic gist of what happens over the next thirty minutes. 649 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 2: He's twenty five to thirty yards away. He's staring at me. 650 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 2: I'm holding my bow up, you know, clipped on, but 651 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 2: not drawn back. I'm thinking he's seeing me. I freeze 652 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 2: in that position for three to five minutes. He finally relaxes, 653 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 2: turns back, looks away, begins if I recall right. He 654 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 2: begins to work the licking branch in the scrape. As 655 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 2: soon as he does that, and I can see that 656 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 2: his left eye is not looking at me. I try 657 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 2: to make a move to get into another lane where 658 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 2: I might people get a shot, and then I realize 659 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to stand to actually pull this off here. 660 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 2: So as soon as he's up in those branches really 661 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 2: well distracted, I stand up and start to move into 662 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 2: a position to get a shot. And then he spins 663 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 2: head around and looks right at me again, and then 664 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 2: thinking for sure I'm busted. Game over, and I just 665 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 2: stand there and I remember thinking like, don't breathe don't 666 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 2: look him in the eyes, had closed my eyes. I 667 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 2: just try to do anything to stay calm, cool and collected. 668 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 2: And that lasted another like three four minutes, just frozen, 669 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 2: just waiting any second out he's gonna bust. And then 670 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 2: he puts his head down and I'm just about to 671 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 2: start moving again, trying to take another half step again. 672 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,800 Speaker 2: I'm standing up twenty five issu yards twenty five to 673 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 2: thirty yards away from when I think it's a four 674 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 2: year old, big old Michigan buck in this scrape. There's 675 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 2: just like one row of corn that was not knocked 676 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 2: down on the edge there that's blocking him, and then 677 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 2: some brush. I just need to kind of move to 678 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 2: the side a couple steps to get where I thought 679 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 2: i'd be alc he puts his head down. I start 680 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 2: to move again, and then I hear clock clock, and 681 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 2: then I realized what I couldn't see behind that one 682 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 2: rowf standing corn and brush is that there was a 683 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 2: second buck there with him. So they start to spar. 684 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 2: I start to take steps towards him into the side. 685 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 2: I get to a spot where I think of an opening, 686 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 2: but now he's spun in that other bucks in front 687 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 2: of me. I can't shoot. I think I'm gonna have 688 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 2: an open if he spins around. They release, He looks up, 689 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:28,839 Speaker 2: looks right at me. I'm frozen again for one, two, 690 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 2: three minutes. I'm not exactly sure for how long. Frozen 691 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 2: there for a while, he stands in that position forever. 692 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 2: I'm just waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting thinkingly. Anytime now he's 693 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 2: gonna bust, but he doesn't. He turns. The other deer 694 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 2: kind of turns back, moves off. Then this buck turns 695 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 2: and starts heading back to the ditch. This is when 696 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 2: I think, Okay, he's gonna walk towards the ditch. I'm 697 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 2: gonna have a shot opportunity. He's behind brush. I remember 698 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 2: two times there was two different times in this encounter 699 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 2: where I think thought like, you probably could get a shot. 700 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 2: One of them was when there was that corn in 701 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 2: the way. There was some like corn leaves that were 702 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 2: only thing blocking the vitals, and I remember thinking like, 703 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 2: if you you could get an arrow through there, probably, 704 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 2: but I didn't want to do it, like I did 705 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,359 Speaker 2: not want to didn't want to push it, didn't want 706 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 2: to have something go wrong. But I remember having a 707 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 2: moment where I thought that might be a shot, but no. 708 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 2: And then the second opportunity was when he starts walking 709 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 2: away and the brush was just too tall, but it 710 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 2: was barely too tall. It was like, you know, two 711 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,359 Speaker 2: inches above where I two to three inches two inches 712 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 2: something like that above where I would have wanted to 713 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:43,879 Speaker 2: be shooting. So I thought, gosh, if you just aim 714 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 2: a couple inches beneath that through that grass, you know 715 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 2: your arrow could punch right through that just fine. Maybe. 716 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 2: But then I said, no, you're not going to take 717 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,800 Speaker 2: a maybe shot like that. So he keeps he's walking 718 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 2: now with that, he's about to get to the ditch 719 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 2: and right there it looks like the brush goes down 720 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 2: and it looks like I can see like his head. 721 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 2: Then his neck gets more open. I begin to draw. 722 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 2: I'm just beginning, and he drops like the ditch. The 723 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 2: bank of the ditch lowered sooner than I realized, and 724 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 2: so now he gets down low and I can't see 725 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,800 Speaker 2: the vitals at all now, but he stops and stares 726 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 2: at me. He's right there, pinned on me, and I 727 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 2: just remember at this point again, I'm holding the ball, 728 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 2: I'm clipped on. I had been in the process of 729 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 2: almost starting to draw, and again frozen looking at me, 730 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 2: and I remember thinking, and it's such a stupid thing, 731 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 2: but I was almost like trying to line up the 732 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 2: riser of my bow in front of my face, thinking 733 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 2: somehow that the riser the bow in front of my 734 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 2: face would somehow hide me. And at this point I 735 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 2: started to kind of shake. You can just tell, like 736 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 2: the adrenaline the whole thing. I remember seeing my arrow 737 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 2: shaking on the end and this big silver fixed blade 738 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 2: broadhead just kind of bouncing, and in my head, I'm like, 739 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,879 Speaker 2: you need to calm down, you need to just get 740 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 2: control of that thing. You don't want this shaking silver 741 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 2: thing to be the deal that ends this whole encounter. 742 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 2: But I also had another thought at this moment. Was 743 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 2: at this moment or somewhere within this final piece, I 744 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:17,360 Speaker 2: remember thinking, this is it, Like you're busted. There's no 745 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 2: way this deer is not going to get out of here. 746 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 2: Just enjoy it. And that was an interesting thing. I 747 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 2: don't think I've ever had a moment when I was 748 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 2: in a moment of truth encounter with a deer where 749 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 2: I thought to myself, Ah, this isn't gonna happen, But 750 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 2: just enjoy the fact that you're this close to this deer, 751 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 2: and I should bring I should, I should take note 752 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 2: of this because this was a not this is not 753 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 2: a film hunt. This is the first hunt I've had 754 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,800 Speaker 2: this year that was not filmed for me to or 755 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 2: this is just a me hunt. This is just for 756 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 2: fun hunt. And you know, something I tried to think 757 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,839 Speaker 2: about as I drove out there that day and walked 758 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,279 Speaker 2: in that day was to just try to really like 759 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 2: wallow in the experience, like really soak it in. Don't 760 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 2: let anything stress you out, don't worry if you know, 761 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 2: you get buggered, if deer figure you out, if it's 762 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 2: a if it doesn't work out, that's fine. Just enjoy 763 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 2: like you're out there. Just soaking in the scenery, enjoying 764 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 2: watching deer, just have fun. I remember thinking that the 765 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,879 Speaker 2: whole time, and it was happening. It was an intense hunt, 766 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,439 Speaker 2: like even before this buck showed up, all these close 767 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,359 Speaker 2: encounters with deer, it was just there wasn't a whole 768 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 2: lot of time to sit around and think or to 769 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,359 Speaker 2: sit around and relax. I was kind of in action 770 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 2: from the beginning, but I did remember thinking several times like, man, 771 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 2: that's pretty great, Like this is why you do this. 772 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 2: You're in a beautiful place, You're you're super excited. That's 773 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,839 Speaker 2: another thing that I should point out. This is the 774 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 2: first hunt of this year where I had like full blown, 775 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 2: you know, buck killing day vibes. And if you've hunted 776 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 2: deer long enough, you know what I'm talking about here. 777 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 2: When you have the conditions, the circumstances, the time of year, 778 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,439 Speaker 2: the intel, the something that makes you think, like when 779 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 2: you're going into the woods on that day, like it 780 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 2: should happen. It can absolutely happen. Those are my very 781 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 2: favorite days to hunt. When it is like a targeted 782 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,839 Speaker 2: hunt where you really have a really strong intuition in 783 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 2: set of reasons that this should work. That's how I 784 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 2: felt yesterday, and that just colors everything different, like you've 785 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 2: got extra nerves. I'm allgittery when I'm getting ready at 786 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 2: the house, texting my hunting buddies, like, oh man, first 787 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 2: day where I'm really feeling the vibes. I'm really feeling it, 788 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 2: and that's just that's a great thing. I love that 789 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,840 Speaker 2: about the fall. You get a handful of days like 790 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,439 Speaker 2: that where you're just amped, and this is one of those. 791 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 2: So I've got that going on while also trying to 792 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,280 Speaker 2: just enjoy it for what it is. And the hunt 793 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 2: kind of checked all the boxes because it was in 794 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,879 Speaker 2: the action, and then the buck I'm after shows up. 795 00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:02,240 Speaker 2: I had this crazy encounter and now I've tried multiple 796 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 2: times to try to get a shot at him. Every 797 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 2: time I move, he moves. Every time he moves, I 798 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 2: adjust whenever he's not looking, and I just can't line 799 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 2: it up quite right. Now. He's staring at me. I'm 800 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 2: hiding behind my bow riser. My silver broad head is 801 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,360 Speaker 2: shaking in the wind. They're shaking, you know, on the rest, 802 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 2: and I'm just thinking he's gonna blow out of here. 803 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 2: There's no way that you're not busted. What a cool encounter, 804 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 2: and then this stinking buck turns instead of running away, 805 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 2: walks back to the scrape. He gets back to that scrape, 806 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 2: and I'm thinking, geez again. As he's doing that, I'm 807 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,840 Speaker 2: having to be frozen because he's in the open and 808 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 2: his face is like his eye is looking at me. 809 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:48,280 Speaker 2: And now I'm like exposed. I'm not hiding behind corn anymore. 810 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 2: I'm standing because I had walked right. I walked on 811 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 2: the edge of that corn to try to get a 812 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 2: better shot. But then he'd moved again. So now my 813 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 2: window of cover or my wall of that I was 814 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 2: using to get closer to him and try to find 815 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 2: lane through, now that's gone because he walked to the 816 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 2: other side, so he's coming across. Now I'm feeling even 817 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,360 Speaker 2: more exposed, so I can't move to get a better shot. 818 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,280 Speaker 2: Goes back to the scrape. I'm blocked from a shot again. 819 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,319 Speaker 2: Now that second buck comes back out, he kind of 820 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 2: circled behind this tall browtime buck. He's walking towards me 821 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 2: for the ninth time. I'm thinking this whole thing's not 822 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 2: going to fall apart, but that buck doesn't see me. 823 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 2: He moves off to the side. To make a long 824 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 2: story short. The tall brow buck stands underneath the scrape. 825 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 2: I make another step to get this last bit of 826 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,880 Speaker 2: brush out of the way, about to draw. He turns 827 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:45,880 Speaker 2: walks back to the ditch, and this is my window, 828 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 2: Like I now know, okay, if he crosses here, if 829 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,279 Speaker 2: he gets to the ditch, I have one window, which 830 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 2: is just before he starts dropping down that bank. There 831 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,240 Speaker 2: was a little bit of an opening right before he dropped. 832 00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,399 Speaker 2: As he starts approaching that he is angle just enough 833 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,400 Speaker 2: that I don't think he can see me draw. I 834 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:08,880 Speaker 2: draw back. He gets right there, I stop him. Shoot. 835 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,840 Speaker 2: He's perfectly broadside. I am standing on the edge of 836 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,760 Speaker 2: the cornfield twenty five yards away from him. Ish something 837 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 2: like that, and I hit him back. In my mind's 838 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,759 Speaker 2: I it looked like I hit him back of the ribs, 839 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,959 Speaker 2: mid body ish perfect up and down, but back and 840 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:36,920 Speaker 2: on the shot. I remember two things. I remember, you know, 841 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 2: it was a situation where he walked right to the 842 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 2: edge of where I bill shoot him. If he took 843 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 2: another step, he dropped down the ditch. And then it's 844 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 2: just thick brush. I'd never get another shot. So the 845 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 2: whole thing was crazy and fast paced at that point, 846 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,800 Speaker 2: and I just remember two things. I remember avoiding the shoulder, 847 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 2: and I had this situation last year where I hit 848 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,320 Speaker 2: the wide nine and the shoulder, And I've been thinking 849 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,240 Speaker 2: to myself about trying to get back off the shoulder 850 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 2: more than I used to. And it's funny, you know, 851 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,879 Speaker 2: I am constantly trying to get better at this. I'm 852 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 2: constantly working to find ways to improve my shooting, to 853 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:22,839 Speaker 2: improve my shot opportunities, to remove error. And you think 854 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 2: you've got to figure it out, and then something happens, 855 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 2: and the next year you're thinking, well, how do I 856 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 2: count for that error? And then you go out there 857 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,279 Speaker 2: the next year and then you have some other thing 858 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 2: go wrong or something go right, and're like, Okay, I've 859 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 2: got it. And then the next year something goes wrong. 860 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 2: Oh well, how do I do with that challenge or 861 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,399 Speaker 2: how do I fix that thing? And so as many 862 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,840 Speaker 2: of you know, if you've been listening for a while, 863 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,360 Speaker 2: you know that after last year, I wanted to switch 864 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 2: stuff up again, went to acquire the bow. I've reduced 865 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 2: my max range from forty yards to thirty yards because 866 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 2: I don't want to have bad shots happen. I don't 867 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 2: want to wound deer I don't want to miss deer. 868 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 2: I'd rather have fewer opportunities, but fewer shots go bad. 869 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 2: Switch to a single pin sight to reduce any possible 870 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 2: site picture issues. Switched to a fixed play broadhead so 871 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,759 Speaker 2: that if I do click the shoulder again, I've got 872 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,920 Speaker 2: a better chance of punching through. So I made all 873 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,920 Speaker 2: these adjustments in part because of this bad shoulder situation 874 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,319 Speaker 2: I had last year, which really hit me hard. And 875 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 2: then of course I overcompensate. I am paranoid about the shoulder. 876 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 2: I remember thinking off the shoulder, and I think what 877 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 2: I did is I went off the shoulder, and I 878 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 2: think I just pulled when I was moving back off 879 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,759 Speaker 2: that shoulder, or I rushed it, or just made a 880 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 2: human error, and that happens, and maybe he took a 881 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,799 Speaker 2: step forward. I'm not sure. I don't have film of it. 882 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,839 Speaker 2: I can't look to see exactly what the deer did. 883 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 2: But no excuses. It was not a perfect shot. The 884 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 2: shot was back and he bounded off, ran maybe fifty yards, 885 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,680 Speaker 2: stopped behind some bushes. I pulled up my bi nose 886 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 2: found him there, and then he took a handful of steps, 887 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 2: disappeared in a brush just before he got into the brush. 888 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:09,319 Speaker 2: I remember thinking kind of a wildly walk, but it 889 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,279 Speaker 2: was a walk, you know. And when you hit a 890 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 2: deer and you think the shot was back and then 891 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,360 Speaker 2: you see him bound off stop and then walk away, 892 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,239 Speaker 2: you know that is a telltale sign that you hit 893 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 2: that deer further back than you wanted, you know, liver 894 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,799 Speaker 2: or stomach or intestines or something like that. So I 895 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,920 Speaker 2: went from this thirty minute incredibly intense, like one of 896 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 2: the most intense face offs I've ever had with a deer, 897 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,880 Speaker 2: very exciting situation. I get the one deer I'm in 898 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,360 Speaker 2: there after like I had the targeted strike go exactly 899 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 2: the way I wanted it to, and then you know, 900 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,399 Speaker 2: you have that super super high and then you see 901 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,239 Speaker 2: that arrow hit and you know it's not quite right, 902 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 2: and then immediately you come back down to earth and 903 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:57,319 Speaker 2: kind of crash down beneath earth, and you know, we've 904 00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 2: all been there. I've been there my share times over 905 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 2: the years. I've had lots of great ones, I've had 906 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,319 Speaker 2: lots of less than great ones, and this was one 907 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 2: of those where I thought, well, that's going to be 908 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,280 Speaker 2: a dead deer, but it's not necessarily going to happen 909 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,719 Speaker 2: right away. And so the smart thing to do, the 910 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 2: thing you know you have to do but it's not 911 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 2: fun to do, is you got to give that deer time. 912 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,640 Speaker 2: So I waited there for a while and just watched 913 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 2: this little pocket to cover with my by notes for 914 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,080 Speaker 2: a while, just in case, just in case, he walked 915 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:28,399 Speaker 2: out of there, and I could see where it went, 916 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,200 Speaker 2: but he didn't. And then I had one more dough 917 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 2: come out, and she saw me because I was still 918 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 2: just standing out there in the open now watching, and 919 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,920 Speaker 2: she saw me, and she did start to blow, and 920 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 2: I remember thinking, all right, I probably just need to 921 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 2: get out of here before a lot of deer come out, 922 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,400 Speaker 2: because one deer blowing is a thing, But if I 923 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,440 Speaker 2: have a dozen deer that eventually come out here at 924 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,440 Speaker 2: some point, and all these deer are alarming, and I 925 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,400 Speaker 2: just didn't want to spook that buck any more than necessary, 926 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 2: So grab my stuff, slips straight out the cornfield. I 927 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,279 Speaker 2: don't go to look for my arrow, I don't check 928 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,799 Speaker 2: out the shot site, none of that stuff, because I 929 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,959 Speaker 2: just knew the hit was back of where I wanted 930 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:10,120 Speaker 2: to be. This deer needs to go overnight. The calculus 931 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,880 Speaker 2: here is that a deer that has hit somewhere back there, 932 00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 2: whether it's liver or stomach or intestine, whatever it is, 933 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:22,240 Speaker 2: that deer usually needs eight to twelve hours to be safe. 934 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:26,720 Speaker 2: And the problem is that if you let that deer, 935 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,880 Speaker 2: if you leave that deer a long, what they're probably 936 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,439 Speaker 2: gonna do is get to the first good cover, lay down. 937 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,240 Speaker 2: They don't feel well, they lay down. If they're not pushed, 938 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 2: they'll stay there and they will die in their bed, 939 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 2: and you'll find them relatively close. If you push in 940 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 2: there too soon, what typically happens is that deer still 941 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,879 Speaker 2: has enough energy to get out of their first bed 942 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,120 Speaker 2: and then run off and they might cover a lot 943 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,320 Speaker 2: of distance. And oftentimes a deer that's hit back a 944 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,719 Speaker 2: little bit will not bleed very well, so you're not 945 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 2: gonna have much of a blood trail. YadA, YadA, YadA. 946 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,560 Speaker 2: Long story short, I'm going to make sure that I 947 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,439 Speaker 2: have a chance of finding that deer and not put 948 00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:04,680 Speaker 2: and let them go overnight, even though that's super stressful. 949 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:10,680 Speaker 2: And to make a very long story short, you know, overnight, 950 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 2: stress about it, worry about it, think through all the scenarios, 951 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,920 Speaker 2: think through everything as you do. And I'm very fortunate 952 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,439 Speaker 2: that the next morning a friend and I were able 953 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,720 Speaker 2: to go out there and maybe I don't know, between 954 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,960 Speaker 2: seventy one hundred yards away found that buck and the 955 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:43,280 Speaker 2: tall brow buck story is concluded. I scouted this property 956 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,239 Speaker 2: one day, and I hunted it one day, and I 957 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 2: was able to kill the deer. It doesn't go that 958 00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 2: way very often. It was like a very targeted strike 959 00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,799 Speaker 2: plan and it actually panned out that way. So I 960 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,919 Speaker 2: count myself very fortunate that this time, the careful plan 961 00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,000 Speaker 2: actually the deer actually word or you know, follow the 962 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:05,040 Speaker 2: script this time, So that doesn't happen all that often. 963 00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:06,920 Speaker 2: So I've wanted to try to think through, Okay, what 964 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,800 Speaker 2: worked right here? What did I do right? And anytime 965 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,640 Speaker 2: you kill a deer there's a certain element of luck, 966 00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,800 Speaker 2: so that's got to be admitted, Like anytime the deer 967 00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 2: do the thing you need them to do, count yourself 968 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:22,160 Speaker 2: lucky and just appreciate that. So that's number one. But 969 00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,279 Speaker 2: number two, let's talk through like the key things that 970 00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,440 Speaker 2: led to this actually panning out. A big thing was access. 971 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:32,040 Speaker 2: A big thing was that I constantly am trying to 972 00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,600 Speaker 2: find new spots to hunt, and this year, after losing 973 00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 2: a good spot. Try to make an extra effort to 974 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,520 Speaker 2: do so, and picked up two three new spots in 975 00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:44,160 Speaker 2: southern Michigan, and that ended up leading to a great 976 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 2: deer down here. That wouldn't have happened if I had 977 00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,399 Speaker 2: not made the extra effort to just ask around, talk 978 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 2: to more people about this stuff. And I think an 979 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,279 Speaker 2: important thing with this particular property is to remember that 980 00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,319 Speaker 2: you can't judge a book by its cover. Like we 981 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:02,040 Speaker 2: all want the two hundred acre farm with mixed egg 982 00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,600 Speaker 2: and timber and swamps and topography and the whole nine yards. 983 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,600 Speaker 2: That'd be great, but for most of us, that's just 984 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:12,239 Speaker 2: not gonna happen. I mean, almost all the stuff I 985 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,560 Speaker 2: hunt in Michigan is less than one hundred acres and 986 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,560 Speaker 2: mostly fields, and none of it is ideal. Like almost 987 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,680 Speaker 2: none of the properties that I have permission to hunt 988 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,000 Speaker 2: would be spots i'd pick as like, oh that's a 989 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:27,239 Speaker 2: slam dunk spot. It's usually well, this little zone looks 990 00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,839 Speaker 2: like it's Scott Promise, and this property maybe butts up 991 00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,239 Speaker 2: into something good. And this spot doesn't have a lot 992 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,480 Speaker 2: going for but maybe it will slide under the radar. 993 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,160 Speaker 2: You got to take what you can get, and you know, 994 00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:40,919 Speaker 2: don't judge it before you go out there and see 995 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,600 Speaker 2: what's going on. And in this case, mostly just a 996 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:48,200 Speaker 2: huge field, just a little area in the back where 997 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:53,200 Speaker 2: there was grass brush, some scrubby trees. But it made 998 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,319 Speaker 2: this really great little transition zone along the edge of 999 00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,839 Speaker 2: that swamp. And I'm just very glad that, you know too, 1000 00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 2: things happened. Number One, I looked at the aerial of 1001 00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:03,919 Speaker 2: this property, I thought, that's not a lot to hunt, 1002 00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,680 Speaker 2: but it butts up into a great piece. And then 1003 00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,759 Speaker 2: number two, when I went out there, just saw what 1004 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:15,520 Speaker 2: a tremendous transition that this was. So that was Number one, 1005 00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 2: taking advantage of a small property, or at least a 1006 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,279 Speaker 2: small part of a property that some people maybe would say, 1007 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,160 Speaker 2: I'm not worth hunting, there's like one good tree to hunt, 1008 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:30,600 Speaker 2: But I recognized an opportunity there. Number two being creative 1009 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:35,520 Speaker 2: with setups. As I mentioned earlier, you know, fifteen years ago, 1010 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,480 Speaker 2: I think I would have walked past this spot, and 1011 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,680 Speaker 2: maybe if I identified it as a good area, as 1012 00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,239 Speaker 2: a good ambush location, with this ditch coming out and 1013 00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,840 Speaker 2: the two fingers of brush going into the swamp, maybe 1014 00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,600 Speaker 2: I would have seen, oh hey, this looks like a 1015 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,759 Speaker 2: great transition. Oh hey, this looks like there might be 1016 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,280 Speaker 2: bucks bedded off of those points, maybe in the swamp. 1017 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,400 Speaker 2: And oh hey, this ditch. I wonder maybe that ditch 1018 00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,719 Speaker 2: would funnel deer moving up through along the edge of 1019 00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:58,360 Speaker 2: the field. Maybe I would have picked out all of 1020 00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,000 Speaker 2: those things that made this look good. I hopefully would 1021 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,680 Speaker 2: have identified that scrape, that overhanging branch where there'd be 1022 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,840 Speaker 2: a scrape in the fall. But I think fifteen or 1023 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,440 Speaker 2: twenty years ago, I might have looked at this and 1024 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,200 Speaker 2: then looked for trees and not found a good tree 1025 00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,440 Speaker 2: for a tree stand, or not found a tree for 1026 00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:19,160 Speaker 2: a saddle and then said, well, can't do it. Or 1027 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,200 Speaker 2: I would have looked for the next closest tree, and 1028 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,640 Speaker 2: I would have ended up seventy or eighty yards away 1029 00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,719 Speaker 2: in a good tree, but not in the spot. But 1030 00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:32,239 Speaker 2: what I've learned is that you don't need to have 1031 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,359 Speaker 2: the perfect tree. You don't need to have a tree 1032 00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,799 Speaker 2: at all. You don't need a perfect blind, you don't 1033 00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:40,359 Speaker 2: need to have some big, fancy, elaborate spot. If this 1034 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:44,000 Speaker 2: is the spot where you have the X, like the 1035 00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,640 Speaker 2: X the spot in the spot, you gotta do whatever 1036 00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,640 Speaker 2: it takes to be there because with a bow we're talking. 1037 00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,120 Speaker 2: Two feet can be the difference, five yards can be 1038 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,640 Speaker 2: the difference. One little gap in the brush can be 1039 00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:01,799 Speaker 2: all the difference you need. In so so, just having 1040 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,400 Speaker 2: the confidence to get creative with where you hunt and 1041 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,560 Speaker 2: be willing to hunt on the ground, or be willing 1042 00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,799 Speaker 2: to hunt low in a scrubby tree, or be willing 1043 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,719 Speaker 2: to hunt really high in a bean pole tree, or 1044 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:18,000 Speaker 2: be just don't get hung up on the ideal. You know, 1045 00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,200 Speaker 2: you hear all these different people on these podcasts. My 1046 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,719 Speaker 2: podcasts included who say, well, you want to have a 1047 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,520 Speaker 2: great you know, a great tree with cover all over, 1048 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:27,279 Speaker 2: and you want to be twenty feet up and lots 1049 00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:31,400 Speaker 2: of branches around you, et cetera. And sure that'd be great, 1050 00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,080 Speaker 2: but sometimes that's not going to be in the right spot. 1051 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,759 Speaker 2: And I've just seen now time and time again so 1052 00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:40,120 Speaker 2: many times in the last decade or so, where if 1053 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,880 Speaker 2: I hadn't gotten creative and been willing to just risk it, 1054 00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,200 Speaker 2: willing to be on the ground and hid in grass 1055 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,880 Speaker 2: or hide in brush or belly crawl across the field, 1056 00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,959 Speaker 2: I would have never killed deer. I killed the deer 1057 00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,799 Speaker 2: on the ground without a blind in Nebraska a few 1058 00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,120 Speaker 2: years ago, like ten years ago. I did it again 1059 00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:03,040 Speaker 2: last year in the grass, snuck into a spot where 1060 00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,640 Speaker 2: there's no trees, ambushed them as if I was hunting 1061 00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,720 Speaker 2: from a tree, but instead in a patch of grass, 1062 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,359 Speaker 2: had a belly crawl on the wide nine last year, 1063 00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,400 Speaker 2: had a belly crawl across the field and sneak up 1064 00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,080 Speaker 2: to a bucket called Junior a few years before that. 1065 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:21,480 Speaker 2: It just keeps on reinforcing the notion to me that 1066 00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,919 Speaker 2: you have to learn when to go for it and 1067 00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,719 Speaker 2: when you know. Sometimes it's when you see a buck 1068 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,720 Speaker 2: do something and you see it with your own eyes 1069 00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,480 Speaker 2: and you think to yourself, well, there's a reason he 1070 00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,799 Speaker 2: did that. That's the spot I needed to be. Well, 1071 00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:37,360 Speaker 2: you need to do whatever it's going to take to 1072 00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,960 Speaker 2: be able to hide your tail there and hunt that spot. 1073 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,600 Speaker 2: If it means laying on your belly, if it means 1074 00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,680 Speaker 2: hiding in a ditch, if it means hiding in a 1075 00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,960 Speaker 2: bush or being three feet up in a tree, whatever 1076 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:49,440 Speaker 2: you got to do, you got to be there. So 1077 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,440 Speaker 2: sometimes it's when you see a deer do a thing. 1078 00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:55,000 Speaker 2: Sometimes you just know based on sign that's the spot. 1079 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,080 Speaker 2: Sometimes you actually see a deer bedded, and you gotta 1080 00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:03,640 Speaker 2: go for when you have an opportunity lined up like this. 1081 00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:08,040 Speaker 2: Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Right, 1082 00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:10,799 Speaker 2: we only have so many chances, we only get so 1083 00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,719 Speaker 2: many hunts, and for too many years, fifteen twenty years ago, 1084 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,760 Speaker 2: I was so conservative. I was so worried about scaring deer. 1085 00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,320 Speaker 2: I thought, man, if I screw up once, that mature 1086 00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,440 Speaker 2: buck's gonna catch on to me and I'll never never 1087 00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:26,440 Speaker 2: have another chance. But it's just not true most of 1088 00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:30,640 Speaker 2: the time, even in heavily pressured areas. You know, I 1089 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,320 Speaker 2: talked about this a week or two ago with with 1090 00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,840 Speaker 2: Jacob at Exodus. You know, these bucks that get to 1091 00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,680 Speaker 2: four or five years old, they are in an area 1092 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,160 Speaker 2: for a reason. They made it to that age because 1093 00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,800 Speaker 2: they believe this spot that they live is safe. So 1094 00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:47,760 Speaker 2: if you take a swing and do one of these 1095 00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:49,640 Speaker 2: aggressive things to be in the right spot at the 1096 00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:53,120 Speaker 2: right moment, because everything's telling you to do that. Even 1097 00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,760 Speaker 2: if you mess it up, you're probably gonna have another 1098 00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,640 Speaker 2: chance somewhere maybe, but you would never have had that 1099 00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,160 Speaker 2: chance if you didn't go for it. So there's a 1100 00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:06,720 Speaker 2: big difference between being a deer watcher and a deer killer, 1101 00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:08,600 Speaker 2: and if you want to get to the point where 1102 00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,640 Speaker 2: you were actually closing the deal on some of these deer, 1103 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,440 Speaker 2: you just have to take the big swing. You have 1104 00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,840 Speaker 2: to do the creative sit You have to take the 1105 00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,040 Speaker 2: belly crawl or the hide in the corn or the 1106 00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:21,960 Speaker 2: hide in the grass, or sneak up on the deer 1107 00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,600 Speaker 2: that you saw betted, even though it's high risk, even 1108 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,480 Speaker 2: though probably seven times out of ten it's not going 1109 00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:31,840 Speaker 2: to go well, three times out of ten, maybe it does, 1110 00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,360 Speaker 2: and it's worth it. So many of the deer that 1111 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,720 Speaker 2: I've killed in recent years have been because I was 1112 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:39,520 Speaker 2: willing to say, damn it, I'm going to give it 1113 00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:43,680 Speaker 2: a try. Probably not going to go well, but it might. 1114 00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:45,600 Speaker 2: It's definitely not going to go well. If I sit 1115 00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:47,959 Speaker 2: back here seventy yards away and just watch the whole time. 1116 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,480 Speaker 2: If you go for it, yeah, maybe you screwed up. 1117 00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,080 Speaker 2: But if you do screw it up, you learn something 1118 00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,720 Speaker 2: because you were actively trying to change the situation. You 1119 00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:00,800 Speaker 2: were actively trying something new, and then maybe not, maybe 1120 00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:02,880 Speaker 2: you do actually pull it off and you get to 1121 00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,560 Speaker 2: enjoy that situation. So that's that was a huge takeaway 1122 00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,480 Speaker 2: from this hunt for me being creative with my setup, 1123 00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,320 Speaker 2: being willing to plan ahead and say, hey, there's not 1124 00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,120 Speaker 2: a tree here, how can I make up for that? 1125 00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,680 Speaker 2: How can I make this work? Still thinking about the 1126 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,680 Speaker 2: standing corn, finding a place I can hide in the corn. 1127 00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:22,120 Speaker 2: That gave me some excuse me, gave me some lanes. 1128 00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:26,360 Speaker 2: And then finally when I got in there and the 1129 00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:30,680 Speaker 2: buck shows up, well, I don't have a shot. And 1130 00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:32,720 Speaker 2: looking back at old mark, I think I would have 1131 00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,600 Speaker 2: been afraid to move. At one point as a hunter, 1132 00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,240 Speaker 2: I would have thought, Okay, I'm hidden here in the corn. 1133 00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,880 Speaker 2: I need to just wait until he walks my way, hopefully, 1134 00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:45,160 Speaker 2: and then I'll get a shot. And instead I knew, Hey, 1135 00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,600 Speaker 2: you can get away with movement, even when you're close 1136 00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,520 Speaker 2: to deer if you time it at the right moments. 1137 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:52,760 Speaker 2: And so I waited till he was looking the other way, 1138 00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:54,240 Speaker 2: or he put his head down, or he put his 1139 00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:57,360 Speaker 2: head up in the scrape, or he sparred with that deer, 1140 00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:59,640 Speaker 2: or he moved and walked behind bushes. But every time 1141 00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:03,480 Speaker 2: he gave me a one second window, I was standing up. 1142 01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:05,800 Speaker 2: I was taking a step to the left. At one 1143 01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:07,720 Speaker 2: point took like three or four steps with my bull 1144 01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:12,240 Speaker 2: about to be drawn, like, you know, very aggressive right 1145 01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,120 Speaker 2: in his wheelhouse movements. And yes, I was lucky that 1146 01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,320 Speaker 2: there was some wind and that had been rained earlier 1147 01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,200 Speaker 2: in the day so I could do that without him 1148 01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:22,600 Speaker 2: hearing me. But if I hadn't done that, I don't 1149 01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:24,440 Speaker 2: think I ever would have been able to get the 1150 01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,919 Speaker 2: shot that I did. So I think that goes back 1151 01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:29,600 Speaker 2: to knowing that, you know, when you have these windows, 1152 01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,480 Speaker 2: when things are lined up, you do have to get aggressive, 1153 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:37,080 Speaker 2: be creative, you know, make your own stars. Like, don't 1154 01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,600 Speaker 2: just wait for the stars to align. Make them align. 1155 01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:44,760 Speaker 2: That's a big thing. That's a really key thing. Make 1156 01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:49,160 Speaker 2: the stars align for you. Don't wait for some happenstance, 1157 01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:54,240 Speaker 2: make it happen. Finally, I think an important thing here 1158 01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:58,960 Speaker 2: on this front was that it's October thirteenth. There's a 1159 01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:00,880 Speaker 2: lot of people say you shouldn't be kill deer for 1160 01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:05,920 Speaker 2: mature deer in mid October. It's the October lull. A 1161 01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:07,560 Speaker 2: lot of folks that say, don't go out there and 1162 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,920 Speaker 2: mess spots up when there's no chance of good things happening. 1163 01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,080 Speaker 2: But the truth of the matter is, and we've talked 1164 01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:14,760 Speaker 2: about this a lot too but truth of the matter 1165 01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,600 Speaker 2: is that buck activity, deer activity ramps up throughout the 1166 01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:21,360 Speaker 2: month of October towards the rut. They just shift right, 1167 01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,120 Speaker 2: So what they're doing in September and early October changes 1168 01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,480 Speaker 2: as hunting pressure ramps up. Deer just to hunting pressure, 1169 01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,760 Speaker 2: Deer just to changing food sources, right, You've got crops 1170 01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,880 Speaker 2: coming out, they just to cover changing, you've got leaves 1171 01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:37,200 Speaker 2: falling down. They are making all these changes. There's changes 1172 01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:40,520 Speaker 2: in their habitat, there's changes to pressure, there's changes in 1173 01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,680 Speaker 2: their physiology as they're getting ready to rut. So all 1174 01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:47,160 Speaker 2: of that just means that deer are changing, So hunters 1175 01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:51,320 Speaker 2: need to change with them. And if you can do that, 1176 01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,320 Speaker 2: you can get on deer. I think if you plan 1177 01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,120 Speaker 2: your hunts to account for that, or if you've got 1178 01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:01,440 Speaker 2: a deer dialed in, or if you have an unpressured spot, 1179 01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:05,320 Speaker 2: you can absolutely till still have success, especially when you 1180 01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,600 Speaker 2: have these right conditions lined up. And so a big 1181 01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,040 Speaker 2: thing for me over recent years has been if I 1182 01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,960 Speaker 2: see that front come through, that gives a deer a 1183 01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,320 Speaker 2: little bit extra incentive to get on his feet earlier, 1184 01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:17,680 Speaker 2: I'm going to take a swing. Whether it's October eighth 1185 01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:21,520 Speaker 2: or October thirteenth, or October nineteenth or twenty second, that 1186 01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:24,640 Speaker 2: window can still be really good. So in this case, 1187 01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:28,120 Speaker 2: our front came through like the thirteenth through the fifteenth, 1188 01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,160 Speaker 2: and I when I saw the forecast, I said, all right, 1189 01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,240 Speaker 2: that's going to be one of these swings. Now. I'll 1190 01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,480 Speaker 2: also say that it's great to have a lot of 1191 01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:39,400 Speaker 2: different options so that you don't only have one farm 1192 01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,320 Speaker 2: or one spot you're hunting over and over. Right, So I, 1193 01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,880 Speaker 2: because I had picked up new access, because I had 1194 01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:48,640 Speaker 2: additional properties that I've slowly accumulated over the years, I 1195 01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:52,200 Speaker 2: could hunt early October and then wait and hunt a 1196 01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:55,600 Speaker 2: different spot mid October, and then I can come back 1197 01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:57,840 Speaker 2: and hunt a different spot a little bit later October. 1198 01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:00,000 Speaker 2: And I'm not burning out any one of those spots. 1199 01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:02,360 Speaker 2: So it's not like the October law is going to 1200 01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:04,720 Speaker 2: screw things up for me come the rut, because i 1201 01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,680 Speaker 2: haven't been hammering one spot the whole month of October. 1202 01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,240 Speaker 2: I've been spreading it out. Take a strike there, take 1203 01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:13,280 Speaker 2: a strike there, Take a strike there. When the rut arrives, 1204 01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:16,600 Speaker 2: no one of them is over pressured, no one of 1205 01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,120 Speaker 2: them is ruined. But I've still been able to hunt, 1206 01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:21,880 Speaker 2: and I've still been able to have opportunities all throughout 1207 01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:24,520 Speaker 2: the month. So that's an important thing to remember if 1208 01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:28,240 Speaker 2: you're listening to this on October seventeenth, you know, don't 1209 01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:31,640 Speaker 2: be afraid to get after it. Take advantage if you 1210 01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:35,040 Speaker 2: have a chance. But then also don't blindly hunt over 1211 01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:36,840 Speaker 2: and over and over. If you have just one spot 1212 01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:40,360 Speaker 2: to do it, Go hunt some public land, Go hunt 1213 01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:42,320 Speaker 2: that new permission that you got that maybe doesn't look 1214 01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:46,240 Speaker 2: that good, but who knows. And I think if you 1215 01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:49,720 Speaker 2: can do those things, you've got a better chance of 1216 01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:53,360 Speaker 2: just enjoying your hunting season, because that's so important to 1217 01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:58,600 Speaker 2: be careful to avoid. We talk a lot, you listen 1218 01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:00,800 Speaker 2: to a lot of really good hunters who oftentimes talk 1219 01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,040 Speaker 2: about needing to time your hunts, wait for the right 1220 01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:06,880 Speaker 2: moment to strike, don't overhunt, don't hammer these spots too much. 1221 01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:09,840 Speaker 2: You know you can kill them from the couch. Some 1222 01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:13,920 Speaker 2: people say, right, because if you're educating deer, you're not 1223 01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:17,240 Speaker 2: gonna be able to kill them. And all of this 1224 01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:19,680 Speaker 2: is true to a degree, and a lot of what 1225 01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:23,040 Speaker 2: I've talked about with this deer, this particular hunt, would 1226 01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:24,840 Speaker 2: you know point to me waiting and waiting and waiting. 1227 01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,400 Speaker 2: This is the first time out hunted this property. But 1228 01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:31,360 Speaker 2: make sure you still enjoy your season, have other places, 1229 01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:36,840 Speaker 2: get out there, enjoy yourself. So if you have a 1230 01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,680 Speaker 2: weekend in October, get out there. If you've got your 1231 01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,919 Speaker 2: vacation in November, but then a warm front rolls through 1232 01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:46,120 Speaker 2: and the conditions don't look good, don't worry about it. 1233 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:50,680 Speaker 2: Hunt have fun. Maybe it's not perfect, but you never know. 1234 01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:55,320 Speaker 2: These are wild animals, these are wild places. The whole 1235 01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,720 Speaker 2: reason this is so exciting is that it's unsure. We 1236 01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:00,720 Speaker 2: do not know what's going to hap happen. There are 1237 01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:05,680 Speaker 2: no guarantees, and that uncertainty and the mystery that comes 1238 01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:08,640 Speaker 2: along with every single time we head into the woods. 1239 01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:12,439 Speaker 2: That is a beautiful thing. That's what keeps me coming 1240 01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,360 Speaker 2: back time and time again. And I'm betting that's the 1241 01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:20,240 Speaker 2: case with you too. So that is my hunt. That's 1242 01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:23,720 Speaker 2: how I killed this buck here in mid October in 1243 01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:27,040 Speaker 2: southern Michigan. I'm very thankful for it. It was a 1244 01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:29,840 Speaker 2: lot of fun. It was a very intense hunt. It 1245 01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:34,320 Speaker 2: was a crazy thirty minutes. I actually had that camera 1246 01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:40,760 Speaker 2: send pictures today all almost that entire encounter. So that 1247 01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,959 Speaker 2: buck showed up, the time between when he first showed 1248 01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:45,680 Speaker 2: up and when I got a shot at him was 1249 01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,080 Speaker 2: about thirty minutes. And I can tell you that not 1250 01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:50,200 Speaker 2: because I remember it happening in real time, but because 1251 01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:52,200 Speaker 2: the pictures. I've got the first picture there, and I've 1252 01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:54,000 Speaker 2: got pictures of him fighting with this other buck, and 1253 01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,680 Speaker 2: then I have pictures of him running away, which is 1254 01:05:56,720 --> 01:06:01,320 Speaker 2: pretty cool to see. So so yeah, just a really 1255 01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:06,800 Speaker 2: special one that is different but incredibly memorable all the same. 1256 01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:11,360 Speaker 2: And once again learning new lessons, having something's hammered home again, 1257 01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:17,680 Speaker 2: and just thankful worked out. So that is it for 1258 01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:20,640 Speaker 2: me here today. I'm hoping that you will take this 1259 01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,560 Speaker 2: and maybe this will inspire you a little bit. Maybe 1260 01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:26,440 Speaker 2: this will give you some new ideas. Maybe this will 1261 01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:29,800 Speaker 2: give you that extra kicking the butt to get out 1262 01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:32,640 Speaker 2: in the woods even if conditions aren't quite right or 1263 01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:36,000 Speaker 2: whatever it might be. If you're listening in mid October 1264 01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:38,840 Speaker 2: or late October, there are really good things available to 1265 01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:42,520 Speaker 2: you right now. I should point out scrapes are going 1266 01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:44,960 Speaker 2: to be ramping up over the coming week to ten days, 1267 01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:48,480 Speaker 2: So if you are listening October seventeenth through like the 1268 01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:51,240 Speaker 2: thirty first, and if you've got scrapes back in cover 1269 01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:55,000 Speaker 2: that you know deer have historically hit, that is absolutely 1270 01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,960 Speaker 2: a place where there will be bucks in the coming days. 1271 01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:01,760 Speaker 2: This buck came to a scrape, and that was one 1272 01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,080 Speaker 2: of the not the only reason I typically don't hunt 1273 01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,320 Speaker 2: spots just because of a scrape. But if you can 1274 01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:09,240 Speaker 2: have a scrape with a terrain or cover feature, with 1275 01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:12,520 Speaker 2: the food source to bed type pattern or whatever it is, 1276 01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:16,919 Speaker 2: you know, having that extra sweetener can be a key thing, 1277 01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:20,200 Speaker 2: especially this time of year, almost well not almost more 1278 01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:22,640 Speaker 2: than any other time of the year. This next seven 1279 01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:26,560 Speaker 2: to ten days is your best time for deer to 1280 01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:30,120 Speaker 2: be on those scrapes, so watch out for that. You know. Again, 1281 01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:32,720 Speaker 2: as we get into the last week of October, this 1282 01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:36,040 Speaker 2: is a great window because you have bucks that they're 1283 01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:40,400 Speaker 2: testosterone is just about maxed out, but most dos aren't 1284 01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:42,919 Speaker 2: in heat yet, So you've got bucks that are ready 1285 01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,640 Speaker 2: to go, but can't find any ladies that are. So 1286 01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:49,080 Speaker 2: they're amped up, they're frustrated. They're moving more in daylight 1287 01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:51,320 Speaker 2: right now, but they're still sticking to their home range. 1288 01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,400 Speaker 2: So if you have been studying a specific deer, if 1289 01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:56,760 Speaker 2: you've got a pattern on a couple deer, this might 1290 01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,120 Speaker 2: be your best window coming up because they'll still be 1291 01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:02,360 Speaker 2: in your area, not running crazy yet, they're not randomly 1292 01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:07,000 Speaker 2: cruising the landscape or chasing does across the landscape. They're 1293 01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:09,480 Speaker 2: still going to be to a degree following those patterns 1294 01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:11,880 Speaker 2: you've been learning about this past month or six weeks, 1295 01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:14,200 Speaker 2: but you've got a good chance of it happening in daylight. 1296 01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:17,519 Speaker 2: So I put a high priority on that last week 1297 01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:21,439 Speaker 2: of October, and then once November hits, then we're rolling 1298 01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:23,360 Speaker 2: into the rut. Assuming you don't live in the South 1299 01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:26,559 Speaker 2: where there's some of these different rut windows, but if 1300 01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,799 Speaker 2: you're in the northern half of the country, once November 1301 01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:33,599 Speaker 2: first hits, for me at least, I'm thinking betting areas 1302 01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:37,360 Speaker 2: and funnels and pinch points, anything that concentrates deer travel. 1303 01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:38,840 Speaker 2: There's gonna be a lot of bucks moving on their 1304 01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:41,679 Speaker 2: feet going from dough era dough betting ereic to dough 1305 01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:44,439 Speaker 2: betting era, to dove food source to dough food source, 1306 01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:47,679 Speaker 2: trying to find a dough ready to breed. You want 1307 01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:50,360 Speaker 2: to be anywhere that's downwind of one of those dough 1308 01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:54,360 Speaker 2: hot spots where movements funneled where movement is pinched down 1309 01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:58,400 Speaker 2: to locations. Find those kinds of spots. Put in the time, 1310 01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:03,720 Speaker 2: rind it out, yes, but also enjoy yourself. Do what 1311 01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:05,680 Speaker 2: you need to do to make sure this is fun. 1312 01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:12,479 Speaker 2: This should not feel like a grind, a job, misery entirely. 1313 01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:15,160 Speaker 2: Like you know, some of this stuff, it takes hard work, 1314 01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:19,679 Speaker 2: no doubt about it. But if you are not enjoying 1315 01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:24,080 Speaker 2: yourself along the way, you're getting it wrong. You're missing out. 1316 01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:26,120 Speaker 2: There's got to be a balance, There's got to be 1317 01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,680 Speaker 2: a sweet spot there between really giving it you're all, 1318 01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:33,080 Speaker 2: but then also making sure that you know you're enjoying 1319 01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:36,599 Speaker 2: this incredible experience for one's worth. So you probably heard 1320 01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,719 Speaker 2: me talk all about this. I won't belabor it anymore. 1321 01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:41,599 Speaker 2: I'll leave you with that. I'm wishing you guys all 1322 01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:44,360 Speaker 2: the absolute best from here on out. We're going to 1323 01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:46,960 Speaker 2: have some really great interviews coming up giving you some 1324 01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:52,479 Speaker 2: very you know, clear and actionable tips and tactics to 1325 01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:54,519 Speaker 2: make sure that the next four weeks of your hunting 1326 01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:58,080 Speaker 2: season are as jam packed and successful as they possibly can. 1327 01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,280 Speaker 2: I appreciate you tuning in. I hope you enjoyed this 1328 01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:05,880 Speaker 2: story and until next time, good luck out there, and 1329 01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:11,640 Speaker 2: stay wired to hunt h m m m