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Speaker 2: On Radio Row inside the Indiana Convention Center. It's our

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Speaker 2: ongoing combine coverage on your twenty four to seven home

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Speaker 2: until five o'clock today. Joining us now as he typically

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Speaker 2: does all throughout the regular season and certainly plenty during

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Speaker 2: the offseason as well. It's our buddy, Chris Halleck DK

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Sports. Chris, thanks for taking the time brother. How

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Speaker 2: we feel this is this is always the first day

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Speaker 2: that the week's catch up with you a little bit. Well,

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Speaker 2: it's a bit of a grind, but at the same

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Speaker 2: time we finally get on field stuff tonight. So it's

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Speaker 2: the balance of like you're dragging a little bit, but

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Speaker 2: there is there's a nice little care in front of

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Speaker 2: us too.

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Speaker 3: Still.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, it's a fun week. It's a week unlike

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Speaker 4: any other in the entire in the entire calendar year.

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Speaker 5: It's a lot of fun.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of networking going on, but you know,

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Speaker 4: it's fun to learn about these players and to try

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Speaker 4: to find out as much as we can about how

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Speaker 4: the Steelers feel about these players. I remember last year,

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Speaker 4: last day I was here. I remember having a conversation

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Speaker 4: they really really liked Derek Carman with meeting with him

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Speaker 4: here and lo and behold, he ends up being their

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Speaker 4: first round pick. Now they love a whole bunch of

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Speaker 4: other players that they don't end up getting a chance

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Speaker 4: to draft. But it's still this is when the process

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Speaker 4: is really starting to kick off. They got Pro Day's

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Speaker 4: coming up after this, you got the pre draft visits

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Speaker 4: that have come up.

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Speaker 5: But it's a fun week here for sure.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned Harmon, So let's just start with the D line. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: everyone was talking about Rogers coming back, but no one

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Speaker 3: imagines his cam coming back. I mean, I'm going to

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Speaker 3: operate under the assumption you get at least one more

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Speaker 3: year out of them. But do you still think a

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Speaker 3: nose tackle type should be somewhere in the mix here

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Speaker 5: It could be.

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Speaker 4: I think the one thing that's dangerous about the draft

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Speaker 4: regardless of the position, but especially a position like a

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Speaker 4: I don't want to call a niche position, but it's

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Speaker 4: not a common one in today's NFL.

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Speaker 3: For RVE, Yeah, it'd be it'd be nice.

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Speaker 4: But the one thing you don't ever do in the

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Speaker 4: draft is reach for a position just to address a need.

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Speaker 4: That's what free agencies for you prefer to do that.

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Speaker 4: The draft is especially earlier on in the draft, it's

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Speaker 4: meant to look at These are the type of players

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Speaker 4: we want a draft to like impact the franchise regard

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Speaker 4: almost almost regardless of position. Of course, you have a yeah,

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Speaker 4: but I think you definitely turn over more stones. Possibly

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Speaker 4: it'll be interesting to see what Mike McCarthy, Patrick Graham,

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Speaker 4: what those guys want to do with me, maybe Keanu Betton,

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Speaker 4: who's been the nose tackle, how they feel about why

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Speaker 4: a Black and and and you know anybody else in particular.

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Speaker 4: But I don't think you completely ignore nose tackle this

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Speaker 3: Prefer to do it in the draft. And I'm excited

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Speaker 3: to watch these guys, Yeah, work out to figure out

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Speaker 3: which ones I like better. But the free agency big

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Speaker 2: Chris Uh pick twenty one, Like, we've talked a lot

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Speaker 2: What's what's your vibe you know on the quarterback possibility.

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Speaker 2: I know you reported the Steelers have met with Ty Simpson.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that is shocking to anybody, but but

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Speaker 2: they didn't exactly right, exactly right now, because that's what

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Speaker 5: Almost a formality, that's the point. That's the point of

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Speaker 2: An That's why we're all here in Indianapolis is to

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Speaker 4: Well, really big variable on that is, well, how did

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Speaker 5: Hit the hatch and the.

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Speaker 4: Maybe maybe, just maybe it's a possibility. I think it's

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Speaker 5: He just he doesn't have that.

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Speaker 4: UH informed opinion that the next time they take a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And to me, I'm not sure if Simpson is

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Speaker 5: Cause I have my doubts on that.

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Speaker 4: But that's why I'm curious, how did that interview go

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Speaker 5: Head over heels in love with. U's like, you know what,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally get it. Sticking with quarterbacks. Most people

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Speaker 3: You know, he said coach's son should do really well

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Speaker 3: Are there any other mid round dart throws at that position?

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Speaker 4: Drew Aller has you know, talked about the traits. Drew

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Speaker 5: Coaches aren't afraid of that, at least they shouldn't be.

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Speaker 3: And all these guys will have their own personal quarterback guys.

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Speaker 4: The part too is that, and then how does that

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Speaker 3: You. That's where John Allen changed things. It wasn't because

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but then but then again it's I'm curious to

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Speaker 4: how does he incorporate that as as part of not

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Speaker 5: So Drew Awler is a guy.

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Speaker 4: Who's who's interesting to me, but it's mainly because he

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Speaker 5: You know when you look at like just the arm,

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Speaker 5: You're like, I want that. Take that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I want that, And I at least have seen

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So it's interesting to me.

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Speaker 4: And if you can get that in the third round

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Defensive backs and tight ends at the podium today. Correct,

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Speaker 2: it feels like the big news Dermaud McCoy not going

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Speaker 2: But that that's a that's a big that throws a

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Speaker 4: He did meet with the Steelers though, so you can

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Speaker 4: at least get the meeting with him. You can, you know,

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Speaker 3: So, speaking of defensive acts, what are your thoughts or

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Speaker 3: hunches of what what Jalen Ramsey's future is here? I

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Speaker 3: know they could open up a lot of capspace if

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Speaker 3: they let them go. They have a lot of cap space.

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Speaker 3: When no more was at the podium, didn't I didn't

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Speaker 4: From what I've been told and what I've reported, I

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Speaker 4: highly doubt he's being cut.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's that's kind of what we've been saying

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Speaker 3: the last few days too. But do you think he's

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Speaker 4: And I think that's why when you look at you know,

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Speaker 5: They've been meeting with safeties.

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Speaker 3: And they're gonna be a really good safety draft.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and they're gonna meet with players of all positions,

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Speaker 3: It's funny Rob and I almost touched on this. Then

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Speaker 3: last year there was three corners and two safeties. Thornhill

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Speaker 4: I think I think it's something that they really have

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Speaker 3: And his versatility helps to It really does.

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Speaker 2: here live on Radio Row inside the Indiana Convention Center,

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Speaker 2: a busy day. Thanks for taking the time as always did.

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Speaker 5: Of course, Steve, thanks for having me. Guys.

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Speaker 2: You know you're one of our favorites and we will

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Speaker 2: certainly be keeping in touch here all throughout this offseason process.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk.

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Speaker 5: We gotta talk about some measurements.

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Speaker 5: This evening plenty to get to as we roll along here.

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