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Speaker 1: All right, I want to talk about the Donald Trump indictment.

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Speaker 1: And obviously the news changed late in the afternoon when

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Speaker 1: new indictments came down from Jack Smith.

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Speaker 2: What does this actually mean?

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Speaker 1: I set down with Center Ted Cruz for our podcast

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Speaker 1: that we do Verdict, and I want you to hear

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Speaker 1: what he had to say about these indictments, the timing

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Speaker 2: Take a listen.

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Speaker 1: Let's go through a quick timeline for you. June the seventh,

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Speaker 1: the FBI released documents to Congress alleging that the Bidens

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Speaker 1: took a ten million dollar bribe from Barisma. What happened

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Speaker 1: the very next day, June eighth, Jack Smith indicted Trump

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Speaker 1: in the Marlago document case. Fast forward to July the

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Speaker 1: twenty sixth, Hunter Biden goes to court and rejects this

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Speaker 1: it was revealed that the Biden Department of Justice tried

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Speaker 1: to give Hunter Biden blanket immunity from all future prosecutions.

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Speaker 1: The very next day, after that sweetheart deal fell apart,

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Speaker 1: on July the twenty seventh, Jack Smith added more charges

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Speaker 1: for Trump in the Marlago case. Move just a few

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Speaker 1: days later, to July the thirty first, Hunter Biden's former

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Speaker 1: business partner testifies to Congress Devin Archer that Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: was on over twenty calls with his son's business partners

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Speaker 1: and that Barism executives pressured them to fire the prosecutor.

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Speaker 1: What happened the very next day? Jack Smith indicts Trump

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Speaker 1: again for more charges related to January the sixth.

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Speaker 2: Senator? Is there a coincidence with a day after day

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Speaker 2: timeline I just gave you? Or is this possible retribution

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Speaker 2: for how dare you challenge us?

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Speaker 3: Look?

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Speaker 4: Is it is not subtle and it's not complicated. This

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Speaker 4: is straight out election interference by the Biden Department of Justice.

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Speaker 4: We have talked at great length about how incredibly politicized

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Speaker 4: the Department of Justice is. You're right the timing. Every

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Speaker 4: time there's a bad development on evidence of corruption or

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Speaker 4: criminal misconduct by Hunter Biden were, in particular Joe Biden,

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Speaker 4: the next day you see the Department of Justice try

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Speaker 4: to change the narrative, try to break news. I am

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Speaker 4: not surprised at all that this indictment came down yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Why is that?

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Speaker 4: Because they desperately wanted to drive off of the news

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Speaker 4: Devin Archer's testimony that was very bad for Joe Biden,

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Speaker 4: and the best way to do it is to count

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Speaker 4: on the useful idiots in the media who will happily

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Speaker 4: echo their latest charges against Donald Trump. We are looking

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Speaker 4: right now at three different indictments of Donald Trump, one

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Speaker 4: state and two federal, and in all likelihood we'll see

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Speaker 4: a fourth indictment of Donald Trump in Atlanta from another

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Speaker 4: state prosecutor. This one was supposed to be the big,

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Speaker 4: big Enchilada. This is the one that Democrats and the

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Speaker 4: corporate media have been salivating for. This was finally gonna

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Speaker 4: get him. They are kept in a have and he

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Speaker 4: is there, Moby Dick, and they want to get Donald Trump.

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Speaker 4: And I gotta say, I sat down and read this

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Speaker 4: indictment and my biggest sentim was that it was thoroughly underwhelming.

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Speaker 4: There's very little there. There's very little new in this

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Speaker 4: indictment that you couldn't get reading the pages of the

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Speaker 4: Washington Post in the days after the twenty twenty election

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Speaker 4: leading up to January sixth, almost all of this has

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Speaker 4: been covered in the newspapers. And essentially, what this indictment

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Speaker 4: does is take all the facts, and in particular, they really,

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Speaker 4: really really don't like that Donald Trump alleged that there

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Speaker 4: was voter fraud in the twenty twenty election and that

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Speaker 4: it changed the outcome. Now I get that they don't

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Speaker 4: like that, but not liking it is not the same

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Speaker 4: again on television, on Twitter, on any mountaintop from which

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Speaker 4: you know, looking at this, I was surprised, after all

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Speaker 4: putting people at risk of going to jail, I was

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Speaker 4: surprised that there wasn't a smoking gun in here. There

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Speaker 4: wasn't something that frankly breaks news. At this point, the

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Speaker 4: get to repeat everything they said for the last two years.

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Speaker 4: This is a political indictment brought by a political prosecutor,

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Speaker 4: working for a political attorney general, working for a political

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Speaker 4: In November of twenty twenty four, and what Joe Biden,

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Speaker 4: what Merrick Garland, what Jack Smith? What all the apparatics.

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Speaker 4: The Biden Justice Department want is they want number one.

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Speaker 4: They want Trump to win the Republican nomination. And they've

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Speaker 4: now figured out every time they indict Trump, his numbers

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Speaker 4: go up in the primary. That makes them really happy.

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Speaker 4: They want Trump to be the nominee. And the number two.

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Speaker 4: Their nirvana is to have multiple criminal trials against Donald Trump,

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Speaker 4: all proceeding ideally in September and October of twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 4: And they believe they'll throw so much mud on the

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Speaker 4: I understand why they have that political objective, but it's

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Speaker 4: not the rule of law. It's not what the Department

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Speaker 1: My question for you and for so many Americans right

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Speaker 1: now is how did we get to a point where

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Speaker 1: this could even happen? And how is it possible that

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Speaker 1: there can be this clear in a since transparency on

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Speaker 1: the weaponization of the Department of jim where it's like, okay,

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Speaker 1: every single time there's bad news for the Biden crime family,

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Speaker 1: immediately we indict Donald Trump, who is hands down the

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Speaker 1: front runner now for the GOP nomination. Is this not

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Speaker 1: political interference, the worst we've ever seen in American modern

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Speaker 2: It is almost at this point mind boggling.

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Speaker 1: Where we are as a country in the United States

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Speaker 4: Well, unfortunately, we've entered Banana Republic territory. In over two

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Speaker 4: centuries of our nation's history, no president of the United

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Speaker 4: how unprecedented that is. If you look at this latest indictment,

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Speaker 4: the circumstances of it are highly problematic. This indictment has

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Speaker 4: been brought in DC. The case was assigned to a

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Speaker 4: federal District judge, a judge named Tanya Chutkin. Judge Chutkin

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Speaker 4: was appointed to the DC District Court by Barack Obama,

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Speaker 4: and she has a reputation for being far left, even

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Speaker 4: by DC District Court standards. Judge Chuckkin, for example, has

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Speaker 4: set aside numerous federal death penalty cases. And she is

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Speaker 4: sentenced January sixth defendants to sentences longer than the government requested.

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Speaker 4: So in terms of the judge, we can anticipate a

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Speaker 4: Not to be clear, she doesn't want this to go

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Speaker 4: this trial can't happen too quickly. They want it to

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Speaker 4: I will tell you, if it goes to trial, you

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Speaker 4: consistently vote Democrat. They are not Donald Trump's supporters. The

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Speaker 4: likelihood that a DC jury will vote to convict Donald

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Speaker 4: laws don't matter. They hate him. That's a big part

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Speaker 4: real possibility that Donald Trump ends up being convicted. Now,

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Speaker 4: I think on appeal that conviction will not stand, but

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Speaker 4: it might stand in the d C circuit. An appeal

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Speaker 4: all likelihood at the US Supreme Court. I would note

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Speaker 4: the last time Jack Smith played this game, the last

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Speaker 4: and pause for a second. Merrick Garland and DOJ found

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Speaker 4: I think the only guy on the planet, as far

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Speaker 4: you do it again.

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Speaker 2: The last time.

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Speaker 4: Jack Smith did that was Bob McDonald, then the governor

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Speaker 4: But you know what, if that happens in this case,

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Speaker 4: the election. That will be with Bob McDonald. Jack Smith

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Speaker 4: had done his job. The job was not to put

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Speaker 4: what is dangerous about this particular indictment with a judge

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Speaker 4: a very dangerous scenario. That is I think exceptionally bad

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Speaker 4: Whether you want Donald Trump to be the next president

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Speaker 2: The cover up is in.

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Speaker 1: But now it's part two for the Biden crime family,

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Speaker 1: with a cover up, this time coming from the media.

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Speaker 1: CNN's Dana Bash covering now it's like she's almost on

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Speaker 1: the payroll of the White House for Joe and Hunter

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Speaker 1: Biden's corruption, explaining away the millions and millions of dollars

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Speaker 1: from our adversaries, the fact that he was selling access

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Speaker 1: to the White House by saying, well, look, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of relationships that operate in a gray area intentionally,

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Speaker 1: and this is just politics, so you really shouldn't be upset.

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Speaker 5: The question that Anderson about the fact that doesn't it

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Speaker 5: appear shady? Does that mean that the president was involved

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Speaker 5: in Hunter Biden's business dealings. No, but we all understand Washington,

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Speaker 5: and we all understand that a lot of these relationships

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Speaker 5: somebody who is either related to a a famous person

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Speaker 5: powerful person. You want your clients to know that you

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Speaker 5: can get them on the phone.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 2: I mean wow, So there it is. It's not a

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Speaker 1: Look, especially when you have somebody who's either related to

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Speaker 1: So she's admitting that what they were selling was access

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Speaker 1: to Joe Biden, that this was influence pedaling, selling access

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Speaker 1: to the United States of America. This com on top

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Speaker 1: of a new bombshell accusation. The Hunter Biden whistle blower,

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Speaker 1: Gary Shapley, is now claiming that the FBI in fact

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Speaker 1: what he had to say. Again, this is ow Devin

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Speaker 1: Archers now confirmed that President Biden lied. Okay, number one

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Speaker 3: Hey, Hunter, you're you're going to China? What are you

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I know you're sat right, Eric. And look what

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Speaker 6: Biden's going to provide. It's all quote unquote capital investment.

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Speaker 6: Hunter Biden in one case called it good faith seed money.

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Speaker 6: That good face seed money doesn't go into any business,

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Speaker 6: It goes into Biden family LLC's So it's obvious what

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Speaker 6: is is unsustainable. So they're going to have to shift

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Speaker 6: gears with some of their defense because there's no legitimate

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Speaker 6: explanation for why this money found its way into the bidens.

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Speaker 6: If they were selling a product. That product was Joe Biden.

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Speaker 6: That's the only thing they were selling.

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Speaker 3: Really good having you on, Peter Schwitzcha, I.

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Speaker 2: Think that was the only thing they were selling.

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Speaker 1: I love Peter Schweitzer's analysis of this and reminding you

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Speaker 1: of everything they've gone through. He said, you know you're Ukraine. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're in Ukraine, you're doing business in Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: Check.

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Speaker 1: Then you're in China, Yeah, you're doing that. Then you

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Speaker 1: say no, I'm not doing that. Then you are. Then

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Speaker 1: you're with a member of Brisma. Then you're getting people fired.

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Speaker 1: Then you're saying you didn't make any money from this.

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Speaker 1: Then you had to admit you were making money from this.

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Speaker 1: You go through the list here of all the lies here,

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Speaker 1: and then you have a president. Don't forget, we have

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Speaker 1: a president still, a president of the United States of America.

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Speaker 1: And what is he said over and over again, he

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Speaker 1: has said, I have not made any money off of this.

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Speaker 1: Yes he has. He has absolutely made money off of this.

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Speaker 1: We know they were covering each other's bills. We know

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Speaker 1: that Hunter Biden was paying for improvements in his daddy's house.

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Speaker 1: Jim Jordan also said this about Hunter Biden a moment

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Speaker 1: ago when he was talking run Fox Business.

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Speaker 2: Take a listen, Jim Jordan.

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Speaker 10: There may be some announcements imminent or maybe not, but

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Speaker 10: let's talk just for a moment about to hear you

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Speaker 10: presided over the deposition yesterday. I think the general point

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Speaker 10: here is that Joe, we now know that Joe Biden

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Speaker 10: has been lying about knowing his son's business activities. He

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Speaker 10: lied during the twenty twenty debates, and he continues to

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Speaker 10: lie since then. Just tell us, if you would, sir,

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Speaker 10: what stands out in your mind from this deposition. What

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Speaker 10: did you take away that was you know, particularly interesting?

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Speaker 9: Yeah? Yeah, mister Archer said that Hunter Biden, the value

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Speaker 9: he brought to the business operation they were involved in

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Speaker 9: was the Biden brand. The Biden brand being Joe Biden.

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Speaker 9: This this powerful political figure in DC. And I think

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Speaker 9: you saw that manifest in this meeting that took place

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Speaker 9: that I thought really stood out in yesterday's deposition or

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Speaker 9: interview was this meeting that took place December fourth, twenty

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Speaker 9: fifteen in Dubai where Hunter Biden and Devon Archer are

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Speaker 9: meeting with the executives from Barisma, the guys who run Burisa,

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Speaker 9: mister Zoldchevsky. They're meeting with them. And at this meeting

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Speaker 9: they say the Barisman people say, we're under a lot

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Speaker 9: of pressure. We need the United States government to help

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Speaker 9: us out. And of course, five days after this meeting,

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Speaker 9: December ninth, twenty fifteen, Joe Biden goes to Ukraine and

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Speaker 9: starts attacking the prosecutor. Now, also at that meeting on

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Speaker 9: December fourth in Dubai, they have a phone call with

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Speaker 9: d C. Now, I don't know who it was. Mister

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Speaker 9: Archer said he didn't know. He wasn't right there when

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Speaker 9: the phone call happened.

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Speaker 4: He was at a different part.

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Speaker 9: Of the hotel when that happened, but he knows that

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Speaker 9: there was a call that took place to call to

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Speaker 9: d C. Who they talked to, I don't know. But again,

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Speaker 9: five days after this, Joe Biden takes action, which is

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Speaker 9: the start of this process that now has become somewhat

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Speaker 9: well known, where Joe Biden a few months later says,

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Speaker 9: where he relates where he gives this talk to the

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Speaker 9: folks in Ukraine, says, if you don't fire a Chokun

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Speaker 9: the prosecutor, you're not getting the money. I mean, ironically,

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Speaker 9: the same thing they went after President Trump for in

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Speaker 9: the impeacement.

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Speaker 10: But Joe Biden says he did it.

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Speaker 9: That all starts in play on this December ninth speech

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Speaker 9: he gives there again five days after this conversation takes place.

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Speaker 9: So that to me was sort of the big takeaway

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Speaker 9: from yesterday's interview.

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Speaker 1: You know you big takeaway. Yeah, I would agree with that.

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Speaker 1: Devin Archer saying, look, it's very clear Hunter Biden used

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden to close the deals to sell the Biden brand.

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Speaker 1: The value he brought to the business operation they were

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Speaker 1: involved in was the Biden brand, your buying influence. That

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Speaker 1: was the product. That was the only product. There was

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Speaker 1: no other product but this product. Make sure you download

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Speaker 1: I Get to Do with Senator Teed Cruise three is

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Speaker 1: a week you're gonn want to hear what he has

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Speaker 1: to say about this as well.

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Speaker 2: I will see you back here tomorrow