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Speaker 2: now decided I want that in the show. Not enough
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Speaker 2: NBA history, and that's a league that has employed Jordan
Speaker 2: Poole for five years. So we'll get to that. Best
Speaker 2: sporting event of the year for some March Madness tips
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Speaker 2: there's ever a day for me to make massive errors
Speaker 2: or drop an f bomb on TV, today's to day
Speaker 2: because nobody will be watching. It's a weird thing doing
Speaker 2: a sports television show and you know nobody's watching it.
Speaker 2: But that's gonna be the case. Listen for maybe you
Speaker 2: people catch it on YouTube after the fact, and then
Speaker 2: what might be the biggest story in sports. So you
Speaker 2: might say, why is it not in the show? The
Speaker 2: show hey Otani, his interpreter here is the loose facts,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna put facts in quotes. The story as
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Speaker 2: trying to fame anyone. I am simply saying this. The
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Speaker 2: When all we have is those six people that vote
Speaker 2: in Delaware or wherever Vermont at midnight and it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: four to two, Trump's ahead, It's like, well, we could
Speaker 2: spend time analyzing that, or we could wait literally a
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Speaker 2: we have real data. So I think we're gonna get
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Speaker 2: spend a lot of time on it when we have
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Speaker 2: real reporting on it. And I also have the ability.
Speaker 2: I'm good pals with Jeff Passing, so all probably hit
Speaker 2: him up this weekend and ask him to give me
Speaker 2: the dummies version of what is known and what is
Speaker 2: believed and then we can maybe talk about it more Tuesday.
Speaker 2: But the speculation right now to me seems to be
Speaker 2: a bit of a fool's errand so we're not going
Speaker 2: to spend a lot of time on that demanse. What
Speaker 2: are we going to spend a lot of time on?
Speaker 2: Go ahead?
Speaker 4: The Bucks and Celtics. They played last night.
Speaker 3: Damon Tatum put on a little clinic and the Bucks
Speaker 3: we're able to keep the game pretty close despite not
Speaker 3: having Giannis. So we already know a few of your
Speaker 3: thoughts on these teams in the East. But you've it's
Speaker 3: it's kind of conflicting. You've got the Bucks as your
Speaker 3: finals pick, but you have the Celtics a top of
Speaker 3: your tiers of your tiers right now?
Speaker 4: What's up with that?
Speaker 2: Yes, so right now, the Celtics deserve the respect to
Speaker 2: say they're the best team in the league. They have
Speaker 2: a top six all time point differential. That's meaningful to
Speaker 2: me like that is, and the other teams on that
Speaker 2: all time point differential list are some of the best
Speaker 2: teams ever. They have a universally respected excellent starting five,
Speaker 2: they're healthy, and they have seven wins, more than every
Speaker 2: other team in the league. They're gonna finish like sixty
Speaker 2: five and seventeen, and no other team in the league
Speaker 2: is going to get to sixty wins, So they deserve
Speaker 2: to be a top the tiers, so to speak. I
Speaker 2: can believe that while also believing Milwaukee or Denver would
Speaker 2: beat them in a series. And so to me, those
Speaker 2: are the Those two ideas are not in conflict, at
Speaker 2: least in my mind. I also think Miami, well, it's
Speaker 2: a little bit of that, and it's a yeah, I
Speaker 2: guess it's a lot of that. It's not that I
Speaker 2: don't think the Celtics are a good playoff postseason team.
Speaker 2: They've made a final, They've made four conference finals since
Speaker 2: Tatum's been there. It's more that I think the Bucks
Speaker 2: have been a work in progress all year. But if
Speaker 2: we pause and take a moment and say, what we
Speaker 2: thought of Milwaukee last year was they needed a guy
Speaker 2: just like Dame, and they added Dame. Now, the defense
Speaker 2: took a step back, But I think some of the
Speaker 2: skepticism about Milwaukee was, all right, if you add a
Speaker 2: guy like Dame, what does it do to Yannis? Well,
Speaker 2: Yannis offensively, and he didn't play last night. Obviously, you
Speaker 2: could Argue is having the best season of his career.
Speaker 2: He's averaging point three beneath his career high end points,
Speaker 2: he's averaging by a full half assist his career high
Speaker 2: and assists, and he's averaging by four percentage points his
Speaker 2: best shooting percentage ever. He's thirty one points, eleven rebound,
Speaker 2: six assists, sixty two percent from the field every single night.
Speaker 2: And here's the other thing that to me is noteworthy
Speaker 2: about what the Bucks have done recently, including last night.
Speaker 2: To bring it to last night, the Bucks ability as
Speaker 2: of late to play these other good, too excellent teams
Speaker 2: and to play them without Yannis and to be really good,
Speaker 2: I think is highly impressive. So they didn't have Yannis
Speaker 2: for the Clippers game they won. They didn't have Yiannis
Speaker 2: for the Sun's game they won. They didn't have Yiannis
Speaker 2: last night, and that was a three point game against
Speaker 2: a full strength Celtics team in Boston. I actually think that,
Speaker 2: and I think Yannis missing a little bit of time
Speaker 2: here could actually be good for the Buck in this regard.
Speaker 2: It allows Dame to really get in a pre postseason rhythm,
Speaker 2: which Dame's been good but not great this year. Dame
Speaker 2: has not been as good as he was last year.
Speaker 2: And Dame talked about kind of the emotional toll that
Speaker 2: you know, he got divorced, he had to move, he
Speaker 2: feels lonely. All those things are real things. Sidebar of
Speaker 2: the sidebar, demanse, did you see the DeAndre Ayton quote? Uh,
Speaker 2: nothing wrong, no, no, no, so on himself. So I'm
Speaker 2: gonna read it to you and then I'm I'll tie
Speaker 2: this to the Dame stuff in a moment. So I'm
Speaker 2: going to read you the story from Kurd Hyland on
Speaker 2: Pro Basketball Talk. It has taken DeAndre in a while
Speaker 2: to adjustin Portland, both on and off the court. Back
Speaker 2: in November, he averaged fourteen and nine shooting fifty nine percent.
Speaker 2: Solid numbers, but Ayton was passive much of the time,
Speaker 2: not the inside presence Blazers were counting on. Since the
Speaker 2: break eight and has averaged twenty four and fourteen on
Speaker 2: sixty four percent. So what changed? Aighten talked about that
Speaker 2: adjustment with Aaron Finchris of The Oregonian. Uh, and this
Speaker 2: is what he wrote, or this is what he said, quote,
Speaker 2: my body just wasn't my body? People forget the humane
Speaker 2: difference of me adjusting to everything.
Speaker 4: Oh, I did see that. Just being good mattress.
Speaker 2: Just being yes, yes, just being comfortable and waking up. Quote.
Speaker 2: I didn't have a bed for quite some time. I
Speaker 2: was on an air mattress, just trying to figure things out.
Speaker 2: So I'm now going to give you two facts. Fact one,
Speaker 2: DeAndre Ayton is twenty five years old. Fact two, DeAndre
Speaker 2: eight and currently makes thirty two million dollars a year.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna add a third fact, Fact three, DeAndre Ayton
Speaker 2: makes his money with his body. If you are a
Speaker 2: grown man and you are in the mid eight figure
Speaker 2: earnings club, you know what, I'm going to lower that.
Speaker 2: If you're in the seven fig you know what I'm
Speaker 2: going to lower that. If you're in the mid six
Speaker 2: figure earnings club. If you're a grown man making more
Speaker 2: than two hundred thousand dollars a year and your body
Speaker 2: is how you make your money, you're not allowed to
Speaker 2: sleep on an air mattress for more than one night.
Speaker 2: And that has to be a really disastrous scenario for
Speaker 2: it to be one night. That is when he's like,
Speaker 2: when he's like, oh my goodness, the humane part of it,
Speaker 2: here's the here's the adult part of it. I'm a
Speaker 2: super rich guy. This is affecting my performance at work.
Speaker 2: I need the best bed of available in the Portland
Speaker 2: area delivered to my house today. And oh wait, you're
Speaker 2: gonna charge me, you know, triple for overnight shipping. You
Speaker 2: know what, I've got it, and it's my job to
Speaker 2: make they pay me this, to make sure things like
Speaker 2: sleeping on an air mattress are not part of you know,
Speaker 2: the potential difficulties. So when people say the humane parts
Speaker 2: of NBA players, I guess I'm in humane. There that
Speaker 2: that quote right there. Sorry, DeAndre Aiden, You're not a
Speaker 2: serious person. You're not an adult yet. I am not
Speaker 2: comfortable with you being a major part of my franchise. Now,
Speaker 2: Dame saying I'm lonely and I'm going through a doce
Speaker 2: that I totally understand. Money doesn't fix that. But if
Speaker 2: you are super rich and you are having a problem
Speaker 2: that literally money fixes like I do. Like, let me
Speaker 2: ask you this. If DeAndre Ayton had said, well, you know,
Speaker 2: I wasn't playing well because the place I moved to
Speaker 2: the fridge and stove were broken, so I hadn't eaten
Speaker 2: for a week. Would you say, oh, this poor guy,
Speaker 2: or would you say, you know what, buddy, you got
Speaker 2: to figure that one out. There's options there. The air
Speaker 2: mattress is not a viable excuse. So what I try
Speaker 2: to be an empathetic person, and for Dame going through
Speaker 2: a divorce, I can only imagine how horrifying moving away
Speaker 2: from your family. Those are real things that I think
Speaker 2: too often people are like, ah, you're rich, get over it.
Speaker 2: Money doesn't help you there. It might ease some of
Speaker 2: the things, like you can see your family easier than
Speaker 2: someone who's not rich can. But so I feel for
Speaker 2: Dame in that regard. DeAndre Ayton talking about sleeping on
Speaker 2: an air mattress is, honest to god, one of the
Speaker 2: most embarrassing quotes from an athlete in years, like give
Speaker 2: me a break by I didn't.
Speaker 4: Get that either.
Speaker 3: I also just told one of the producers of the
Speaker 3: podcast that I couldn't watch TV over the weekend by accident.
Speaker 3: But it's like similar scenario internet. They're actually not similar scenario. No,
Speaker 3: not internet problem. I was just tied up, had some things,
Speaker 3: but I initially led with I wasn't able to watch
Speaker 3: TV this weekend, and that just wasn't true. So it's
Speaker 3: like a But the thing I didn't I didn't understand.
Speaker 3: I didn't get why he was saying he had to
Speaker 3: sleep on air match. He could have slept in an
Speaker 3: hotel next year. A bunch of other also listen.
Speaker 2: While you and eight and are the same age, you
Speaker 2: and Aighton do not have the same ability to fix
Speaker 2: problems with money. So like if you if your work
Speaker 2: was hampered, if when you moved to La it was like, Man,
Speaker 2: I'm falling behind at work because I can't work from
Speaker 2: home because the Internet's not set up in my house. Yet,
Speaker 2: that does not make you less of an adult. That
Speaker 2: is a legitimate excuse for someone that is starting off
Speaker 2: in their career. If you made thirty two million, if
Speaker 2: every two weeks to Monse, you got direct deposited a
Speaker 2: million four in your bank account and you told your
Speaker 2: employer you're like, sorry behind on emails, my hot spot
Speaker 2: got cut off. Then they'd say, Okay, you're not a
Speaker 2: serious person. So how does this have to do with
Speaker 2: Celtics bucks. Oh, because I was talking about and here's
Speaker 2: the other thing I said about the Celtics. Tell me
Speaker 2: if you agree with me to Monse. This Celtics season
Speaker 2: feels a little raven Z in this regard, if you
Speaker 2: don't get over the hump, now, when are you going
Speaker 2: to so embeid? It's hurt the Bucks fired their coach.
Speaker 2: They don't, you know what I mean? They the Bucks start.
Speaker 3: Last year with the Celtics too. I guess now they
Speaker 3: got Porzingis. They made the extra moves.
Speaker 2: And they got Porzingis, they got Drew, you know.
Speaker 4: What I mean?
Speaker 2: The last year they weren't the one seed Milwaukee was.
Speaker 2: There were a lot of pieces to it. And so
Speaker 2: there is an element of if this Celtics team this
Speaker 2: season all add one caveat, if they get to the
Speaker 2: finals and play a very competitive series against Denver and
Speaker 2: Jokis just kills them, then maybe the Celtics don't retool
Speaker 2: anything and they're just like, you know what, we are
Speaker 2: running up against a generational player the correct But you
Speaker 2: might say, well, that's what happened to the Ravens, but
Speaker 2: that isn't what Because the this year's Chiefs team didn't
Speaker 2: have the profile that this year's Nuggets team has, Nobody
Speaker 2: is watching this year's Nuggets team saying this is the
Speaker 2: worst Nuggets team in years, that there's something wrong with them.
Speaker 2: So but if the Celtics fail to make the finals,
Speaker 2: or make the finals and lose to anyone but Denver,
Speaker 2: or make the finals and lose to Denver but it's
Speaker 2: a washout, then I think they have real hard questions
Speaker 2: to answer about are we really really really good but
Speaker 2: not gonna be good enough? All right? Next?
Speaker 3: All right, So Caleb had his prode yesterday and his
Speaker 3: future teammate Keenan Allen was in attendance. You said on
Speaker 3: your show yesterday, if the Caleb will fall somewhere between
Speaker 3: Troy Aikman and Terry Bradshaw, so that means.
Speaker 4: About three Super Bowls.
Speaker 2: Well, let me, I like, how you put him right
Speaker 2: at where.
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes is right now, give you a little time.
Speaker 2: No, no, So that's not even how it happened. Wilds
Speaker 2: went through the fifteen most successful number one overall pick
Speaker 2: quarterbacks and he was like, do you think Caleb will
Speaker 2: be better than this guy? Then this guy then? And
Speaker 2: so right, he asked me, will he be better than Aikman?
Speaker 2: I said yes? And the next name he said was Bradshaw,
Speaker 2: and I said no, So that you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: That's where it was. That was so much that he's
Speaker 2: necessarily winning that many Super Bowls, But it is that
Speaker 2: I think he will be a better player than Aikman.
Speaker 2: Bradshaw is, you know, kind of universally considered one of
Speaker 2: the ten greatest quarterbacks ever to am I gonna go
Speaker 2: ahead and install Caleb there. That seems a little too bullish,
Speaker 2: but I do think Caleb is gonna be great.
Speaker 4: But go ahead, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, with that said, how long do you think
Speaker 3: it'll How long do you think it'll be until we
Speaker 3: Sue Mahomes and Caleb Williams face off in a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: So here's the funny thing about super Bowls. We very
Speaker 2: rarely get Marino Montana. Now I use that example because
Speaker 2: we did get marinomn Tanna in the one Super Bowl
Speaker 2: Marino one where it's like, these are the two best
Speaker 2: quarterbacks alive and they're in the Super Bowl, and you know,
Speaker 2: you got Aikman Kelly twice. Uh, But neither Aikman nor
Speaker 2: Kelly were really in the argument for the best quarterback
Speaker 2: in the league. You did get FARV Lway, but Lway
Speaker 2: was at the very very end and was no longer
Speaker 2: MVP Lway. But it's pretty rare that you get, you know,
Speaker 2: two top three or four quarterbacks against each other in
Speaker 2: a super Bowl. So if we like, let's just go
Speaker 2: backwards and see and so, yes, I do think Caleb's
Speaker 2: going to be a superstar quarterback. But and some of
Speaker 2: that has just happenstance, Like Brady and Manning played in
Speaker 2: the same conference forever, so they played five times in
Speaker 2: the playoffs, but they could never play in the super
Speaker 2: Bowl because they for the entirety of Manning's career, they
Speaker 2: were both in the AFC. So here are the Super
Speaker 2: Bowl matchups that we've had, just going backwards, Mahomes party,
Speaker 2: so that's number one versus like number nineteen. Great Mahomes hurt.
Speaker 2: Mahomes hurts. Now that was the MVP and the MVP
Speaker 2: runner up. But I don't know how that's going to
Speaker 2: age historically. People are gonna be like, oh wow, Burrow
Speaker 2: Stafford pretty good. Two guys both firmly in the top
Speaker 2: seven or eight. Brady Mahomes obviously a legendary matchup. It
Speaker 2: didn't turn. The game ended up not being a good game,
Speaker 2: But that was from a quarterback perspective, probably the best
Speaker 2: you could have hoped for. Uh, Mahomes Garoppolo, no good
Speaker 2: Brady Goff when golf was at that you know, I understand, well,
Speaker 2: golf wasn't struggling yet, and that one looked better in
Speaker 2: the moment than it does now. And also that was
Speaker 2: a thirteen to three Brady Fowles whatever, Brady Matt Ryan.
Speaker 2: The year Matt Ryan won NFL MVP. That's pretty great one.
Speaker 2: And the ended up being one of the greatest Super
Speaker 2: Bowls ever. Manning Peyton, Manning cam Newton. But that year
Speaker 2: Peyton got benched. Like that year Peyton was at the
Speaker 2: very very end. So Peyton got hurt and got benched
Speaker 2: and then came back. I think he had You're not
Speaker 2: gonna believe the year Peyton won his last Super Bowl
Speaker 2: Demonsey And I love this part of the I know
Speaker 2: I've said this so many times, but I love this
Speaker 2: part of the pod, the like natural discovery from things
Speaker 2: that happened when you were in high school or earlier. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I'm not being a smart ass here.
Speaker 3: You're wandering off into uncharted territory for me, like I'm
Speaker 3: learning exactly.
Speaker 2: And so so Peyton's final year in Denver, he had
Speaker 2: nine touch down, seventeen interceptions and a sixty eight passer
Speaker 2: rating and they won the Super Bowl, so like whenever,
Speaker 2: So it's such a unique spot. Peyton's second run really good.
Speaker 2: They had von Miller, Demarket, they had they were the
Speaker 2: best defenses in the league. Peyton's second year in Denver,
Speaker 2: when they made the Super Bowl and lost, he had
Speaker 2: fifty five hundred yards and fifty five touchdowns, one of
Speaker 2: the great maybe the greatest quarterbacking season ever. But then
Speaker 2: by the end of his third year, you could tell, oh, wait,
Speaker 2: he's not the same guy. And then his final year
Speaker 2: in Denver was he got hurt. They didn't they brock
Speaker 2: Osweiler took over, Peyton, then took back over, and Peyton
Speaker 2: was just not the And even in that playoff run,
Speaker 2: in that entire playoff run when they won the title,
Speaker 2: Peyton threw for two touchdowns and one pick. Just wasn't
Speaker 2: the same guy, all right, So back to what we
Speaker 2: were doing here, Russ Brady, Russell Wilson was pretty good,
Speaker 2: and Russell Wilson prime Peyton Manning was pretty good. But
Speaker 2: then you have things like Flaco Cap Brady Eli Big
Speaker 2: Ben Rogers is probably the best, like Caleb Mahomes possibility,
Speaker 2: which is, you know, Rogers at that point was maybe
Speaker 2: you know, in root to being considered maybe the best
Speaker 2: quarterback in the league alongside Brady and Manning. Big Ben
Speaker 2: was already a super Bowl champion a couple times over.
Speaker 2: And so that's a that's a really good one. And
Speaker 2: obviously Breeze Peyton when it was prime Peyton. So that's
Speaker 2: just you know, going through the last fifteen years. So
Speaker 2: it is our bet if Caleb makes a super Bowl,
Speaker 2: and I believe he will, he's almost it's almost guaranteed
Speaker 2: that it's gonna be a great super Bowl matchup because
Speaker 2: it's either gonna be him against Mahomes or him against Alan,
Speaker 2: or him against Lamar, or him against c J. You
Speaker 2: know it's gonna be or him against the Prince or
Speaker 2: him against It's justin it's gonna be. It's very hard
Speaker 2: to imagine an AFC team without a great quarterback going,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, making it to the super
Speaker 2: Bowl in this era. But yeah, I my confidence in
Speaker 2: Caleb is as high as it's been.
Speaker 4: Question Okay, I mean, do you think he will be
Speaker 4: there the next.
Speaker 2: Three Well, so here's another thing, and I know that
Speaker 2: this podcast, we're kind of doing bit of history lessons,
Speaker 2: but the quarterbacks that make super Bowls make them early.
Speaker 2: Russ made two on his rookie deal. Mahomes made two
Speaker 2: on his rookie deal. Burrow made one on his rookie deal.
Speaker 2: Cam was it the end of his rookie deal. Flacco,
Speaker 2: he's not a great player, was at the end of
Speaker 2: his rookie deal. Uh. You know, ever since the New
Speaker 2: Pay when the Eagles made it, they had Wentz on
Speaker 2: his rookie deal. He got hurt. Foles was the backup,
Speaker 2: but Wentz got him to twelve and three or whatever
Speaker 2: they were thirteen and two something, and then Jalen obviously
Speaker 2: on his rookie deal. Purdy was on his rookie deal.
Speaker 2: So if Caleb is the guy that I think he is,
Speaker 2: the Bears probably should make a super Bowl in the
Speaker 2: next five years. If he is the guy that now.
Speaker 2: Lamar's great, he hasn't made one. Josh Allen's great, he
Speaker 2: hasn't made one. But those guys have had to go
Speaker 2: through Mahomes. Their best years have all been ended by Patrick.
Speaker 2: You don't really have that so much in the NFC
Speaker 2: go ahead.
Speaker 3: It seems like you just I honestly, these situations always
Speaker 3: confused me. I thought of it in my mind for
Speaker 3: some reason, I thought of my work.
Speaker 4: It's probably really bad.
Speaker 3: But as far as when teams trade up, are they
Speaker 3: trade away players to get higher in the draft. What
Speaker 3: if like the forty nine Ers gave Brandon ayyuk in
Speaker 3: like oh, trailing doesn't even play there anymore.
Speaker 4: I guess, like.
Speaker 3: Brandon Ayuken brock Party maybe to maybe move up to
Speaker 3: the second spot or maybe take the first spot from
Speaker 3: the Bears. I get it's very likely that some I
Speaker 3: always say no, but in the off chance that the
Speaker 3: Bears were attracted to those two.
Speaker 2: So you're saying is no, no, no. So let me
Speaker 2: what you're saying is what a team that has? Because
Speaker 2: I know what you're saying, I don't know if the
Speaker 2: audience knows exactly what you're saying. What a team that
Speaker 2: feels like it has it has really good players but
Speaker 2: not good enough to break through? Would they want to
Speaker 2: kind of reset the quarterbacks key scale clock.
Speaker 4: Because you get to pay them much too much?
Speaker 2: Exactly right? So the Niners aren't a great example because
Speaker 2: their quarterback doesn't make any money, but the the So
Speaker 2: the example for that is, would if the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 2: said to the New England Patriots, we'll trade you Dak
Speaker 2: for the third overall pick. You get stability, a known
Speaker 2: factor at quarterback while you try to build up the
Speaker 2: rest of your team, and we can resign cd Re,
Speaker 2: sign Micah, try to so without demonster. It's you didn't
Speaker 2: realize it when you were saying it. This is exactly
Speaker 2: what the Niners did with Trey Lance. They had Jimmy
Speaker 2: g on a semi expensive contract, they had been to
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl, they had been banging on the door.
Speaker 2: They weren't good enough, so instead of trading players, they
Speaker 2: traded three first round draft picks to move up so
Speaker 2: they could start the rookie contract clock over. That's what
Speaker 2: they did, and so they're, yeah, what you're described. Bill
Speaker 2: Barnwell wrote an article four or five years ago about
Speaker 2: this exact question, and it was about the Rams with golf,
Speaker 2: and he was ahead of his time on it was
Speaker 2: before they paid golf. He was because it was when
Speaker 2: golf the bloom was coming off the rows a bit.
Speaker 2: And the question was, would there ever be a team
Speaker 2: that drafts a quarterback, develops that quarterback, turns that quarterback
Speaker 2: into a franchise quarterback. And instead of giving him the
Speaker 2: massive extension that then makes them have to tear away
Speaker 2: pieces of their team, trades him for a top five
Speaker 2: pick so they can start the process over and always
Speaker 2: and always have a superstar supporting cast, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, like would And so that to me is
Speaker 2: a legitimate question. If you have a quarterback, let me
Speaker 2: find the right quarterback example of who you've got to
Speaker 2: really thread the needle, and you've got to have the
Speaker 2: confidence in your own drafting and evaluations that you can then.
Speaker 2: So I'll give you an example. If I were the
Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins and the Minnesota Vikings, we're willing to give me.
Speaker 2: The Vikings wouldn't do this, but just follow me here
Speaker 2: the eleventh pick of the draft for Tua. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: all right, sitting there, I can draft Pinnix, I might
Speaker 2: be able to draft McCarthy. Maybe they love Bonnicks, which
Speaker 2: I wouldn't understand. Whatever, but are we better off making
Speaker 2: sure we can keep Waddle, we can keep Tyreek, we
Speaker 2: can do all these things rather than this offseason pay
Speaker 2: Tua like he's great when we know he has a ceiling.
Speaker 2: That to me is a legitimate question, Like that's a
Speaker 2: legit correct, and so I I would the now quarterbacks
Speaker 2: like you mentioned Justin Herbert. Herbert I think is too
Speaker 2: talented to roll the dice on that. But the Chargers
Speaker 2: right now are drafting, and the way his contract works
Speaker 2: because they've already paid him, uh, they could. They can't
Speaker 2: actually trade him right now, but we know how much
Speaker 2: Harball loves JJ McCarthy. They're sitting at five, he coach McCarthy.
Speaker 2: In this fake world where uh Justin, where Justin Herbert's tradeable?
Speaker 2: Would it be a viable thought exercise that someone like
Speaker 2: the Chargers, like, you know what, we don't want to
Speaker 2: have to cut Keenan Allen or trade Keenan Allen. We
Speaker 2: you know, we don't want to have to tear our
Speaker 2: team down, and we want to get younger through the draft.
Speaker 2: You know what could you get for Justin Herbert from again,
Speaker 2: I'll use New England? Would New England give you the
Speaker 2: third overall pick and their second round pick and next
Speaker 2: year's number one for Justin Herbert? The answers yes, they
Speaker 2: almost assuredly would. And then could we draft our quarterback
Speaker 2: and Marvin Harrison and have an extra first round pick?
Speaker 2: These are legitimate conversations that nobody in NFL front offices
Speaker 2: is having because trading away a stability at the quarterback
Speaker 2: position is so terrifying. But if you just right, if
Speaker 2: you had, if you had, if you owned the team
Speaker 2: and ran it and just could do whatever you wanted,
Speaker 2: it would be an interesting idea. So you didn't the
Speaker 2: I knew what you were saying. You didn't phrase it
Speaker 2: exactly right, but it is. It's a smarter idea than
Speaker 2: like you gave yourself credit for it. All right, let's uh. Oh,
Speaker 2: by the way, DeAndre, I'm told.
Speaker 3: He's listening to the show and he actually just sent
Speaker 3: us a picture of his room.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean it's just I mean,
Speaker 2: come on, man, I mean that's I mean, come on, man.
Speaker 4: It's hilarious. The basketball.
Speaker 2: This is why you should watch on YouTube. This is
Speaker 2: why you should subscribe to the show.
Speaker 4: All right. Next, all right, So the Jets clearly haven't
Speaker 4: learned their lesson.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they've signed more players that have come off injuries.
Speaker 3: The eleven of their games this year will be coming
Speaker 3: from teams that want that had winning records in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty three. Another quarterback, Aaron Rodgers, As we're running for
Speaker 3: vice president. Is it time for Jets fans to be
Speaker 3: excited about this coming season or will they just be
Speaker 3: setting themselves up for failure or disappointment.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing that I just don't understand, and I
Speaker 2: guess I do understand it. I just think it is
Speaker 2: so ludicrous that the we're just find that folks are
Speaker 2: don't have a problem with it. So the oldest tackle
Speaker 2: signed in free agency, the oldest is Tyron Smith. I'm
Speaker 2: looking at it on spot rank. He's the only tackle
Speaker 2: over thirty two years old that has signed in free agency. Okay,
Speaker 2: the Jets also signed or traded for another tackle, Morgan Moses,
Speaker 2: who's a good player and a healthy player. He's also
Speaker 2: thirty three years old. If we then go to wide receivers,
Speaker 2: the people like, oh, Mike Williams, isn't that old. The
Speaker 2: wide receivers that have been signed that are older than
Speaker 2: Mike Williams is DeVante Parker who got five million max
Speaker 2: probably a million guaranteed, and Collins who got I'm trying
Speaker 2: to look at a million guaranteed, and then Mike Williams.
Speaker 2: Those are the only two wide receivers who have signed
Speaker 2: who are older than Mike Williams. Why are Tyrantsman and
Speaker 2: Mike Williams available Because in the last two years they
Speaker 2: have each missed seventeen and eighteen games. So a team
Speaker 2: that last year was derailed by having an old injury
Speaker 2: prone roster, signed old injury prone players and they're like, ah,
Speaker 2: can't blame us if it goes wrong. So I just
Speaker 2: think it's a ludicrous way to run your team. And
Speaker 2: they're doing it all in service of an old the
Speaker 2: oldest player in the league coming off of torn achilles.
Speaker 2: So I think the Jets are.
Speaker 3: Poorly r getting fired at the end of the season.
Speaker 2: Well, they made these moves because if they they trying
Speaker 2: to save their jobs, like, ah, this is the old
Speaker 2: you have. This is not a perfect analogy, but I'll
Speaker 2: use it. And people don't do this.
Speaker 4: Let's do it.
Speaker 2: You have squandered half of the company's expense account and
Speaker 2: the next day you have a meeting where they're gonna
Speaker 2: do an audit of it, and you're like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: they expect there to be one hundred thousand dollars here.
Speaker 2: If they see there's fifty, I'm fired. I'm just fired. Well,
Speaker 2: I guess I'm gonna take the fifty that's left and
Speaker 2: put it on black on one spin of the roulette wheel.
Speaker 2: If I win, then I keep my job. If I lose,
Speaker 2: I was fired anyway, Which for your like game theory
Speaker 2: of your own personal wellbeing, I guess makes sense. But
Speaker 2: for the company, for the people you answer to, it's like,
Speaker 2: well wait a minute here, we can't get like the
Speaker 2: fifty you blue is gone, but let's not risk another fifty.
Speaker 2: And so the Jets had this amazing twenty twenty two draft.
Speaker 2: They got Sauce Garrett Wilson, Jermaine Johnson, and Breece Hall.
Speaker 2: And then last year was totally squandered because they chased
Speaker 2: the Aaron Rodgers rabbit without ever addressing the offensive line.
Speaker 2: And now maybe they're gonna squander this year trying to
Speaker 2: build as if the NFL doesn't exist after this year.
Speaker 2: So I don't buy it. I don't like the hype,
Speaker 2: and I don't know what evidence people have that Aaron
Speaker 2: Rodgers is gonna be great again. He what last year?
Speaker 2: He was injured the year before, he was mediocre all
Speaker 2: year long, So we've got to go aways back, like
Speaker 2: Tom Brady has been great more recently than Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 2: has been great. That's noteworthy, all right.
Speaker 4: Next, pretty noteworthy, all right.
Speaker 3: So rumors are forty nine Ers whide receiver Brandon Ayuk
Speaker 3: could be on the run.
Speaker 4: He's been linked to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3: I think for those watching on YouTube, we may show
Speaker 3: a tweet, uh but you So.
Speaker 2: Here's let me just add some context here. He tweeted
Speaker 2: to Mike Tomlins saying that they're saying we look like twins.
Speaker 2: I think I see a resemblance. But here's why it's noteworthy.
Speaker 2: Ayuk had not tweeted in eleven months. So he gets
Speaker 2: linked to the Steelers by friend of the Pod Andrew Philipponi,
Speaker 2: who broke that story, by the way, and then he
Speaker 2: tweets about it. So that's why there's a little smoke
Speaker 2: where there might be some fire. But go ahead, I guess.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So you said that signs for changes to come in
Speaker 3: San Francisco. So question is, so the forty nine Ers
Speaker 3: in for the for a big regression like you predicted
Speaker 3: last year.
Speaker 2: I don't know that they're in for a big regression.
Speaker 2: And to be fair, last year I still had them
Speaker 2: making the playoffs. I just thought quarterback play would bite
Speaker 2: them earlier than it did. It turned out it didn't
Speaker 2: bite them to the Super Bowl, so belief for them.
Speaker 2: But uh, here is here is what is trip. They
Speaker 2: currently have the highest paid running back in football, the
Speaker 2: highest paid full back in football, the highest paid tight
Speaker 2: end in football, the highest paid left tackle in football,
Speaker 2: the highest paid defensive player of any position in football,
Speaker 2: the highest paid middle linebacker in football. That's six positions.
Speaker 2: They also pay Deebo three year, seventy million bucks. When
Speaker 2: all of those things happen, it's hard to then pay
Speaker 2: Brandon Ayuk, right, And that's the beef. The beef is
Speaker 2: he wants a contract. And if the Niners believe Purdy
Speaker 2: is the real deal, they know that at some point
Speaker 2: they're gonna have to pay him. He's gonna go from
Speaker 2: one million to fifty million. So the point that I
Speaker 2: am making is, oh, and they signed who's the big
Speaker 2: d tackle they signed in the offseason to a big oh,
Speaker 2: Javon Hargrave. They gave him a big deal this past offseason.
Speaker 2: That's why Quaton I don't want to say quietly, but
Speaker 2: they cut Eric Armstead because the fight, the salary gap.
Speaker 2: Chickens are starting to come home to roost a bit
Speaker 2: and it's why not winning the Super Bowl last year
Speaker 2: or the year before. They I don't want to say
Speaker 2: they were all in, but they were highly leveraged. And
Speaker 2: the odds that they are ever going to have more
Speaker 2: raw talent on the field than they had in last
Speaker 2: year's Super Bowl is low, and so I think Ayuk's
Speaker 2: an excellent player. But so next year they're gonna be
Speaker 2: going to war with no Eric Armstead don't know the
Speaker 2: status and Dre Greenlaw, which is sad and suck. But
Speaker 2: he popped his achilles in the final game of the year.
Speaker 2: We don't know about Ayuk. Now they will have Hufanga
Speaker 2: back because he tore his ACL early last year. Hufunga
Speaker 2: is awesome, but that's another guy they need money for.
Speaker 2: I think Kufang is probably in line next year to
Speaker 2: become the highest paid safety in the league. So I
Speaker 2: just think the Niners, I don't want to say they
Speaker 2: missed their opportunity, but the window is slowly closing on
Speaker 2: having this all star team. That's all.
Speaker 4: That's all so good, I know.
Speaker 3: I mean, and they're not saying that he's going to Pittsburgh,
Speaker 3: but you weren't high on Pittsburgh when they got Russell Wilson.
Speaker 4: If they got Ayuk, how would you feel about Great Sea?
Speaker 2: It'd be great for Justin I mean for their eventual
Speaker 2: starting quarterback, justin fields. The problem for Ayuk's fit in
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh with Russ is Russ doesn't throw over the middle
Speaker 2: of the field. Even when Russ was great, he didn't
Speaker 2: throw over the middle of the field. Why doesn't he
Speaker 2: field because he can't see it. He's too short. Just
Speaker 2: the reality. I know people like, ah, that's unfair. No,
Speaker 2: it's just true that the for shorter quarterback, seeing over
Speaker 2: the middle of the field is the hardest part to see,
Speaker 2: that intermediate middle, and that's where Ayuk. You know, Ayuk
Speaker 2: doesn't make his money on those deep routes that Russ
Speaker 2: is still great at. He makes his money over the
Speaker 2: middle of the field. Uh. But and Justin fields, we
Speaker 2: don't know where he throws because he hasn't been a
Speaker 2: consistent passer yet. But we know he can see everywhere
Speaker 2: because he's a regular quarterback. Size all right, take quick break,
Speaker 2: come back, play a game? Right or wrong? What's right?
Speaker 2: All right? Welcome back in What's Driven? Think right? Episode
Speaker 2: two twenty three, Demonsey, Let's roll and By the way,
Speaker 2: don't forget your questions and comments for the C block.
Speaker 2: Let's try to roll through this as quickly as possible,
Speaker 2: because that was a forty minute a block because I
Speaker 2: spent eight minutes on DeAndre Ayton's air mattress and an
Speaker 2: other ten minutes on Super Bowl history that was not
Speaker 2: scheduled part of the rundown.
Speaker 3: Okay, go ahead, Oh yeah, we're playing right or Wrong.
Speaker 3: First off, we're start off Zion. The Pelicans are on
Speaker 3: a roll, and Zion has reportedly lost twenty five pounds
Speaker 3: in the course of the season. Right or wrong, Zion
Speaker 3: is officially here to stay.
Speaker 2: So I think I want to tentatively say right. And
Speaker 2: I just think that with tempered expectations. When Zion came
Speaker 2: into the league, I said, this guy's going to be
Speaker 2: an MVP, And you guys know how strongly I feel
Speaker 2: about how good you've got to be to be an MVP.
Speaker 2: I that's who he was gonna be. And I still
Speaker 2: think oddly Zion's initial Zion's second year, which was he
Speaker 2: played sixty games that year, and keep in mind that
Speaker 2: was not this eighty two game season, so he played
Speaker 2: sixty games, and I think was a seventy six game season.
Speaker 2: I could be wrong, maybe it was. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: He was twenty seven a night on sixty one percent
Speaker 2: from the field at twenty years old. No one, not
Speaker 2: even Prime Shack had done that.
Speaker 3: That's almost numbers you're saying. Yanis is putting up just
Speaker 3: earlier this year. So the.
Speaker 2: By the way, you're right, the well, so Yannis has
Speaker 2: more rebounds and assists. Yannis is having, you know, maybe
Speaker 2: the greatest high volume, scoring, high efficiency percentage season ever.
Speaker 2: But that obviously giannis Is season this year obviously hadn't
Speaker 2: happened then, and so Zion did something that no one
Speaker 2: had done up to that point. And then it went
Speaker 2: sideways for him on and off the court. And now
Speaker 2: he is he Listen, he's played fifty seven games, so
Speaker 2: he's gonna play probably close to seventy games. The Pelicans
Speaker 2: are good. He's been really good. But I no longer
Speaker 2: look at him like, oh, he might be the best
Speaker 2: player in the league.
Speaker 4: One day.
Speaker 2: I look at him like, oh he could talent, talented
Speaker 2: as hell and a good player, like you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, he should be a multi time All Star,
Speaker 2: but not an MVP candidate. And so that's kind of
Speaker 2: a bummer. But by the way, a year ago, even
Speaker 2: this was in question. It was is he gonna, is
Speaker 2: his weight? Is his health?
Speaker 4: This stuff?
Speaker 3: It's always like it's always off the court stuff like discipline.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so when he played, he was always excellent, but
Speaker 2: he doesn't seem quite as exploded, like explosive. He's just
Speaker 2: not quite as good as he was right when he
Speaker 2: came into the league. But he's healthier and the Pelicans
Speaker 2: are good. So I'm buying that this could be the
Speaker 2: new look Xion, which is good and bad so to speak.
Speaker 3: All right, next, U so a top receiver in the draft,
Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison Junior didn't work out at the combine and
Speaker 3: now he's skipped working out at his pro day. He's
Speaker 3: slated to go after the top three quarterbacks to Arizona.
Speaker 4: But does he does it?
Speaker 3: It seems like he might not want to. Right or wrong,
Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison Junior is trying to avoid Kyler.
Speaker 2: Wrong. I don't think that's what's happening here at all.
Speaker 2: I think it's that he is correctly saying, watch the tape,
Speaker 2: I am good enough. I don't have to jump through
Speaker 2: these hoops.
Speaker 4: Is the last thing he did would break that was
Speaker 4: breaking that record.
Speaker 2: I mean the last thing that last football we saw
Speaker 2: him play was for Ohio State, and so so I mean,
Speaker 2: he hasn't done any of the stuff guys normally do.
Speaker 2: But I'm okay with that. This is the the guys
Speaker 2: that are that can. I think Marvin's in a place
Speaker 2: where he can't really help his draft stock and he
Speaker 2: can now can't he hurd it? Like I know there
Speaker 2: are something neighbors might go ahead of him, but I
Speaker 2: think that, first of all, I don't buy it. Second
Speaker 2: of all, he's not falling out of the tops. He's
Speaker 2: never he's never going top three because it's gonna go quarterback, quarterback, quarterback,
Speaker 2: and he was never going past seven. So he's almost
Speaker 2: as sure he is assuredly gonna be the first or
Speaker 2: second wide receiver taken, and he's almost assuredly gonna be
Speaker 2: the first wide receiver taken. So he's saying, I don't
Speaker 2: have to do this, so I'm fine with it, all right? Next,
Speaker 2: all right?
Speaker 3: According to Saquon, after his move to the Eagles, his
Speaker 3: daughter said, does that mean we're gonna start We're gonna
Speaker 3: win now?
Speaker 4: Right or wrong?
Speaker 3: Saquon's daughter knows ball right or Wrong's daughter?
Speaker 2: It was right. I believe she said it. I'll go
Speaker 2: ahead and say she knows ball. I don't think the
Speaker 2: Eagles are gonna be great, but they're gonna better than
Speaker 2: the Giants were. So yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I don't wanna. I don't want to talk about Saquon's daughter.
Speaker 2: I should have taken this one out of the show. Wed, Yeah,
Speaker 2: all right? Next uh.
Speaker 3: The NFL is considering changes to the hip drop to
Speaker 3: hip drop, tackling kickoff rules and potentially allowing for replay
Speaker 3: reviews of whether a game clock expired before the snap.
Speaker 3: But why right or wrong? Constant rule changes are good
Speaker 3: for sports.
Speaker 2: In theory, they're good for sports, and practicality they're not.
Speaker 2: We can't spend all football season every year being like
Speaker 2: the refs aren't any good and then in the off
Speaker 2: season be like add more things to their plate, Like
Speaker 2: it just doesn't make sense. We the we go through
Speaker 2: the same thing every time where it's like the refs
Speaker 2: are not competent, make their job harder, and so uh
Speaker 2: and so I just I don't. I so in a
Speaker 2: perfect world, I understand a lot of these wanted adjustments
Speaker 2: in the world in which we live. It doesn't make sense. Next.
Speaker 3: All right, you said Tuesday that you're too busy, Sending
Speaker 3: cheers GM. Brett Veach mock drafts to build a bracket
Speaker 3: sounds like a straight up Nick Wright fan fiction. The
Speaker 3: producers and I have some questions right or wrong? Veach
Speaker 3: has replied, Okay, so text between Brett Veach and I
Speaker 3: are personal. What I will tell you is this. Brett
Speaker 3: Veach texted Kevin Clark, great writer, used to be for
Speaker 3: The Ringer and now he does podcasts for Omaha. He's
Speaker 3: on Around the Horn. You guys know Kevin Clark because.
Speaker 2: Kevin and I were at this The reason we'd have
Speaker 2: a podcast last Thursday was because I was speaking at
Speaker 2: this media conference. Kevin was there. So Kevin and I
Speaker 2: took a picture together and he texted to Veach and
Speaker 2: do you know what. Veach replied, I'll send you the screenshot.
Speaker 2: De manse. Veach replied, two of my guys tell Nick
Speaker 2: to send me his latest mock So, uh take that
Speaker 2: for what you will if you guys are interested in
Speaker 2: my latest mock draft. Uh. When I open up my
Speaker 2: downloaded files, this says, pff. Mock results parentheses, twenty eight
Speaker 2: in parentheses. So this is my twenty eighth that I've done,
Speaker 2: but this is where it landed. With the first round pick,
Speaker 2: the Chiefs took Lad McConkie. We then traded Lugerius Snead
Speaker 2: for the forty third overall pick to Atlanta. With that
Speaker 2: draft pick, we took Kamari Lassiter, the cornerback. With the
Speaker 2: final pick of the second round, we took Jatavian Sanders,
Speaker 2: the tight end from Texas. We then made another trade.
Speaker 2: We traded down from eighty one. I'm sorry. We traded
Speaker 2: up from ninety five, packaging the one hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: ninth pick to get pick eighty one to target Texas
Speaker 2: a defensive cackle to Andree Sweat. We then took another
Speaker 2: corner cam heart in the fourth round with our fifth
Speaker 2: round pick, took a value positioned Zack Zenter, the guard
Speaker 2: from Michigan who got hurt in his final collegiate game.
Speaker 2: Probably gonna have to miss the year, but that's a
Speaker 2: guy that should be a Day two pick. That's gonna
Speaker 2: fall because of the injury. The Chiefs have Trey Smith
Speaker 2: and Joe Tooney at the guard positions for next year.
Speaker 2: But Joe Toney maybe could be gone in a year,
Speaker 2: so you slide Zack Zenter into there. Then we traded back.
Speaker 2: This is how sick I've gotten on these mock drafts.
Speaker 2: I traded pick one, eight four and the seventh round pick.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry the I traded with the Raiders and one
Speaker 2: of the things I got back was a future sixth
Speaker 2: round pick. But the mock drafts, there's no future drafts.
Speaker 2: It's not like I'm actually acquiring that capital to do
Speaker 2: anything with it. It just felt like good value. And
Speaker 2: after those trades, I ended up drafting Jalen Green, the
Speaker 2: edge rusher from James Madison. Now that's a small college player,
Speaker 2: but he had like eighteen sacks last year. I liked
Speaker 2: the upside. And with the final pick of the draft,
Speaker 2: I took the good looking quarterback from Notre Dame. Sam Hartman.
Speaker 2: Felt like he's a guy that, after a couple of
Speaker 2: years under Andy, being in the quarterback room with Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 2: could be a guy that shows enough in preseason that
Speaker 2: we can then flip him for maybe like a fourth
Speaker 2: round pick. So go ahead and clip this off for
Speaker 2: social media. My mock draft here, and I'll just share
Speaker 2: it to you know what, m is interesting. I don't
Speaker 2: know if I want to share it to the whole world,
Speaker 2: because that could give those other gms an edge. Let's
Speaker 2: just clip this off on social media and send it
Speaker 2: to me so I can distribute it as we want.
Speaker 2: That was mock Draft twenty eight. Let me just try
Speaker 2: demon's pick a random number between fifteen and twenty eight.
Speaker 4: Twenty seven.
Speaker 2: That's boring, but okay, twenty seven. Uh twenty seven. Let
Speaker 2: me pull up mock draft twenty seven. Uh, oh my goodness.
Speaker 2: That was the one where I had four trade downs.
Speaker 2: That's too many. I ended up drafting thirteen players and
Speaker 2: had four trade downs. I'm gonna have to pick one
Speaker 2: where I didn't do trade It's just so hard. When
Speaker 2: there's value out there, you want it, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. You want to make these trades. So let
Speaker 2: me find one where you said twenty one.
Speaker 4: Twenty one, all right?
Speaker 2: Perfect? Uh? With the first round, Oh, this one, I
Speaker 2: got lad McConkie again. Oh, and then this one, Xavier
Speaker 2: Worthy slid all the way to the third round. Oh
Speaker 2: my goodness, gracious, I also drafted Zach Zenter again. I
Speaker 2: must really like Zach Center. Okay, we can move on.
Speaker 2: I don't know where we're at in the show. I
Speaker 2: know I said we were gonna go faster, but uh,
Speaker 2: we can move on. Go ahead, So I gotta read
Speaker 2: this one. Yeah. Last week I asked Amanse to watch
Speaker 2: Barbie and Oppenheimer during his day off for the old Barbenheimer.
Speaker 2: Oh that's a great You should make this your profile
Speaker 2: picture to.
Speaker 4: Monse, good day.
Speaker 2: Did you do this, Demanse? Uh?
Speaker 4: I did. I watched Oppenheimer. I watched Barbie.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: I enjoyed Oppenheimer. There's I gotta go back and rewatch it.
Speaker 3: I get Oppenheimer's the bad guy for creating the bomb. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and then like they do past with like regular color
Speaker 3: and they do future stuff with like black O.
Speaker 4: It's like, but I.
Speaker 3: Really enjoyed the movie and honestly taught me a little
Speaker 3: bit more about Hiro Shuman than I already knew.
Speaker 4: I did not do too much digging in that.
Speaker 3: But uh, but yeah, Barbie, I gotta say, man, I
Speaker 3: was not entertained at all. And this is not just
Speaker 3: like a boy thing, like it was just like I
Speaker 3: don't that's not the it's it's it was cool.
Speaker 4: It was it was a nice movie.
Speaker 2: No, that's fine. You don't want to step on it.
Speaker 2: You just felt like you didn't like it. I get it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just it just wasn't It just wasn't for me.
Speaker 2: But so here is. I understood the message of Barbie,
Speaker 2: and I thought it was a art one. What I
Speaker 2: found so fascinating about Barbie was the way they I
Speaker 2: think smartly created the Barbie universe. I was because when
Speaker 2: I heard they were making a Barbie movie, and like,
Speaker 2: how are they gonna do it? But the fact they
Speaker 2: had all the different types of Barbies and all that, I.
Speaker 4: Thought it was.
Speaker 2: Actually I thought it was a well thought out movie.
Speaker 3: But we don't have to Definitely definitely well done. No,
Speaker 3: I'm not saying the movie sucks. It's just not for me.
Speaker 3: Yeah I did, But yes, I loved it was very cool. Okay,
Speaker 3: and very loud.
Speaker 2: Quick break, Yeah, very loud. It was great. Quick break,
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Speaker 2: get to the listener questions, go ahead and let's talk
Speaker 2: hard in Kawhi real.
Speaker 3: Quick all right, Travis Kelsey, No, I'm joking you. At
Speaker 3: the top of the so you tease at the top
Speaker 3: of the show. James Harden played defense on UH for
Speaker 3: the first time.
Speaker 4: Ever in his in his career. He gets Kawhi Leonard
Speaker 4: too bad.
Speaker 3: It was against his own teammate, obviously, what was going
Speaker 3: on there?
Speaker 4: To me?
Speaker 2: He just demon's do you know when this happened in
Speaker 2: the game.
Speaker 3: It was third quarter, right, third quarter? They were up.
Speaker 3: It was eighty to sixty eighty to sixty one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were up. It was either eighty to sixty
Speaker 2: one or eighty one sixty one. They were either up
Speaker 2: nineteen or twenty one points with twenty minutes left in
Speaker 2: this game. He can't do that. He just can't do it.
Speaker 2: The it is, I understand, you're playing the Blazers, you
Speaker 2: feel like you're gonna win, You're dominating them. I get it.
Speaker 2: This is outrageous. I mean, it's just I don't want
Speaker 2: to be, you know, someone that makes a big deal
Speaker 2: out of minor things. But this is not a minor
Speaker 2: thing to me. And this is like, this is and
Speaker 2: I love the NBA, but this is the type of
Speaker 2: thing that if it happened in another sport, people would
Speaker 2: be losing their minds. Like let's say that the go
Speaker 2: ahead and.
Speaker 3: Football would be tackling your running back like you're going
Speaker 3: to like making your running.
Speaker 2: Back like try to juke you because you're up twenty
Speaker 2: four in the third quarter, Like this is it's just I.
Speaker 3: But it's like if anybody in the league is going
Speaker 3: to do that. I was saying, it's it's James Harden.
Speaker 2: Like that's the other problem, Like you don't you you
Speaker 2: haven't earned the right to be this silly. I'm sorry
Speaker 2: you haven't. You just haven't. And so I hate it.
Speaker 2: I legitimately hate it. All right, let's get to some
Speaker 2: of the listener questions.
Speaker 4: Do you think let's be explained, like will he have
Speaker 4: to speed said?
Speaker 2: He was like it was good for team vibes, that's
Speaker 2: what he said, Harden answer, and he was like yeah.
Speaker 2: He was like, I'm just trying to keep it loose
Speaker 2: and happy and good for teams.
Speaker 3: Oh all right, well, Gabe Felters, So that's what it is.
Speaker 3: Gabe Felter said, Hey, Nick, I believe the Chiefs could
Speaker 3: sit at thirty two and pick what's best for the
Speaker 3: best for them.
Speaker 4: And attackle wide receiver.
Speaker 3: Should the Chiefs be aggressive to unload Sneed while they
Speaker 3: could get something for him unlike t Higgins.
Speaker 2: Well, listen, the Chief's been ready to trade Snead, but
Speaker 2: the problem is that nobody they had. The Chiefs had
Speaker 2: worked out the Sneed compensation as far as what they
Speaker 2: would get in return for him with another team, but
Speaker 2: in order for that team to agree of the trade,
Speaker 2: Snead then has to agree to a long term contract
Speaker 2: with them. And Steed evidently wants twenty three million a year,
Speaker 2: and no team's been willing to pay it, and so
Speaker 2: I think teams are willing to pay twenty but not
Speaker 2: twenty three, and so the hang up. So the Chiefs
Speaker 2: clearly are prepared to trade Sneed, but also because they've
Speaker 2: been so judicious in free agency, they don't have to
Speaker 2: trade them. And they can carry the nineteen million dollar
Speaker 2: cap hit this year because they signed Chris and because
Speaker 2: they signed Hollywood. They can sit there at thirty two,
Speaker 2: and if a D lineman, corner, wide receiver, or tackle
Speaker 2: they love is sitting there, they can draft any of
Speaker 2: those spots. It's not like, oh my god, we have
Speaker 2: to get this position. We have this player ranked as
Speaker 2: the forty ninth best player in the draft, but he's
Speaker 2: the best left of that position, so I have take
Speaker 2: him at thirty two. It also allows them to trade
Speaker 2: down if they want to, if they have a bunch
Speaker 2: of guys they still like, so they can, as as
Speaker 2: some would say, let the draft come to them rather
Speaker 2: than rush it. All right, go ahead.
Speaker 3: Salvador Finelli asked question for demonte how are you enjoying
Speaker 3: LA compared to New York?
Speaker 4: Yeah, traffic, traffics traffics.
Speaker 3: Traffic is traffic, uh And I hear a lot of
Speaker 3: talks of people comparing New York traffic to Los Angeles traffic,
Speaker 3: and Los Angeles traffic is in the league of its own.
Speaker 3: In my opinion, I like driving everywhere that I go,
Speaker 3: though I don't really miss walking. But yeah, no, I'm
Speaker 3: really enjoying it. The weather's obviously super dope. The people
Speaker 3: are interesting. There's a time that I was I hate
Speaker 3: it when people like when like the best example I
Speaker 3: could think of is when I got in that car
Speaker 3: accident like two and a half years ago. The guy
Speaker 3: like hit me from the side and they got out,
Speaker 3: and I had a green light, and they were speedy,
Speaker 3: and they got out and they're like what the f bro,
Speaker 3: like what And I'm just like, dude, do you think
Speaker 3: that I wanted to get in a car accident with you? Like,
Speaker 3: what's the point in getting out in New York? That
Speaker 3: was in Kansas was in Kansas City. I haven't got
Speaker 3: an accident New York, thank god.
Speaker 4: But yeah, so it's just like I was.
Speaker 2: Like, no, I was trying to play pretend, you know, like,
Speaker 2: what the hell are we talking about? What a car
Speaker 2: accident two and a half years ago? Okay that was
Speaker 2: Kansas City.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Basically, I just think some of the people are hoity
Speaker 3: in the in the LA area. Like I was pulling
Speaker 3: out and it was just like one of those areas
Speaker 3: where in order to get in I have to kind
Speaker 3: of pull out of where I'm at and a civilian,
Speaker 3: I'm on the sidewalk, I get that. A civilian walks
Speaker 3: past my car and literally stops, turns around, bends over
Speaker 3: and looks inside of my car. And I'm like, dude,
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to I'm just trying to go like
Speaker 3: what do you I'm sorry that I'm.
Speaker 4: Right here you were able to walk around, But yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm loving it. It's cool.
Speaker 3: I haven't been doing too much lately with the Achilles,
Speaker 3: but excited to get back out there.
Speaker 2: Okay, good, Caleb asks, would I ever consider making a
Speaker 2: top fifty quarterback list? I got it, like the NBA
Speaker 2: Top fifty list. That's an interesting project. Top fifty quarterback
Speaker 2: because top fifty NFL players is so hard because like,
Speaker 2: how do you cross pollinate positions offense defense? Top fifty
Speaker 2: quarterbacks could be fun. And then Usio says, shout out
Speaker 2: to Demanse, you're improving your game. Real progress being made
Speaker 2: as a host compared to a year ago. More focus,
Speaker 2: more knowledge, more good takes, keep it up, one love.
Speaker 2: I totally agree with it. I actually had somebody ask
Speaker 2: me the other day if this is what you want
Speaker 2: to do professionally, like pod like, is this what Demonse
Speaker 2: wants to do? And I told him I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I was like, I don't you know.
Speaker 2: This has always kind of been a side gig. But
Speaker 2: the fact that somebody asked that, I think speaks to
Speaker 2: your progression over the year and a half.
Speaker 4: I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: It's super nice you guys say it was a really
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