WEBVTT - I hit you because I love you 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:04.000 From the dark corners of the web, an emerging mindset I. 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:06.440 Am a loser if also we know wouldn't pay me either. 0:00:06.640 --> 0:00:10.879 A hidden world of resentment, cynicism, anger against women at 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:12.240 a deadly tipping. 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:15.600 Point in Cells will be added to the Terrorism Guide. 0:00:16.040 --> 0:00:18.560 I see literally zero hope. 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:23.360 This is in Cells a production of KT Studios and 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:30.520 iHeart Podcasts, Season one, Episode eight. I hit you because 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:31.000 I love you. 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:36.280 He controls her, he owns her, and anything that causes 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:38.720 a reaction in him is frankly her fault. 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:40.959 Listen, I haven't been convicted of anything, and there's lots 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:43.159 of allegations against me, that they're just out to get me, 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:44.559 that they don't really have anything on me. 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:49.160 It continued to choke plaintiff harder and harder, making plaintiff 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:51.320 nearly lose consciousness. 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:57.400 I'm Courtney Armstrong, a producer at Kat's Studios, with Stephanie Leidecker, 0:00:57.720 --> 0:01:03.880 Gabriel Castillo, Connor Powell, Carolyn Miller. In episode six, we 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:08.200 explored the Manosphere, a sprawling digital network that claims to 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:12.920 help men navigate dating, fitness, and fatherhood. However, it often 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:17.440 spreads to hostility and misogyny. Andrew Tate is widely known 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:19.679 as the king of the manosphere, and we touched on 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:23.880 his empire from Hustle University to his webcam businesses. We 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:26.679 decided to take a deeper dive into who Andrew Tate 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:30.040 and his brother Tristan are, how their upbringing shaped them, 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:34.120 as well as legal allegations piling up against them. Please note, 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:38.000 despite legal action pending in three countries, neither Andrew Tate 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:40.760 nor Tristan Tate have been convicted of any of the 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:46.720 crimes discussed in this episode. Here's Stephanie. 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:49.400 I always find it interesting that the Tape Brothers are 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:54.600 considered misogynists because, frankly, their background wouldn't suggest that that's 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:57.320 how this would really turn out. The Tape Brothers were, 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:01.480 by their own admission, raised in poverty. 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:05.040 Andrew Tate was born in Washington, d c. At the 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:09.040 Walter Reed Army Medical Center on December fourteenth, nineteen eighty six. 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:12.560 His father was a black man named Emery Tait, who 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:15.960 was an international master of chess and a highly competitive 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:19.760 figure known for his aggressive playing style. His mother, Eileen, 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:22.840 is a white englishwoman who worked as a catering assistant. 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:27.280 Andrew's brother, Tristan, was born in Chicago on July fifteenth, 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:29.840 nineteen eighty eight, and they have a younger sister who 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:34.360 is an attorney and lives a private life. Here again Stephanie, 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:36.800 followed by crime analyst Body Moven. 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:42.040 Mom and dad divorced in nineteen ninety seven, and they 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:46.200 basically split time between the United Kingdom and the United States. 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:50.560 His dad lived like a pretty nomadic lifestyle, surviving on 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:54.760 tournament weddings from chess tournaments. He didn't really have a 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:55.800 stable life. 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:58.959 He was a little anti regime and they refer to 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:02.640 him as being very ambitious, but clearly not that ambitious 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:05.520 because they were growing up in poverty in a different 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:08.560 country and not seeing their co parent hardly at all. 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:11.320 So it's just interesting to me that Dad is getting 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:14.280 that large of a voice in their heads given the 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:16.800 fact that they were being raised by a single mom 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:19.880 who's working her way to put them through school and 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:22.400 frankly doing a nice job of it, and they say 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:26.120 very loving things of her, yet their worldview on women 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:27.440 is really low. 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:32.800 Andrews saw his father, Emory Tate about once a year, 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:36.320 but he's been a hugely influential presence in his life. 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:40.520 Here's a podcast excerpt of Tate speaking about his father 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:46.240 with therapist David Sutcliffe. Was your father present with you? 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:47.800 No, that didn't bother them at all. 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:48.680 It didn't bother you. 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:50.000 No, he had things to do. 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:51.440 I didn't understand. 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:53.560 You know your history, that you were raised by seeing 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:56.600 your mother. Your father wasn't around, so you see him 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:59.480 once a year about that, Yeah, but I always understood 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:01.200 he's very busy and has a lot to do, like 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:03.520 you understand, like a little boy. I think a little 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:06.000 boy might think, why where's daddy? 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:07.720 I want daddy, I'm here alone with mom? 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:10.280 And he might be right because some fathers may not care. 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:13.000 But my father did care. He was just very busy. 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:15.560 But it must have been confusing for you. No, not 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:18.880 for the little boy. No, I never for a second 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:20.200 felt like he didn't care about me. 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:23.240 Ever, and that on some level, some of what you're 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:26.520 doing in the world is motivated by that, like wanting 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:27.799 to win the love of your father. 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:29.680 I think that's semi true, because I believe I have 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:32.479 a duty to my ancestors. I have the last name Tate, 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:34.480 it was bestowed upon me, and I have responsibilities to 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:36.440 live up to the last name Tate. I do believe 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:39.120 I have a duty to my ancestors. So is that 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:41.720 trying to win the love of my father? Perhaps I 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:44.520 never felt unloved by my father ever. In fact, I 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:46.840 would argue I had the best father on earth. I 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:50.400 never felt like I was owed all of his time. 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:53.240 I can earn his time, or that I can't have 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:54.360 as much of it as I want. 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:57.600 You have to earn his time. That was a son 0:04:57.640 --> 0:04:59.120 should have to earn his father's time. 0:04:59.240 --> 0:04:59.760 Yeah, why not. 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:04.680 Andrew Tate often says that his dad taught him if 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:07.280 you can control your mind, you can control the world, 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:11.520 and drilled into them that intelligence is dominance, and that 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:16.400 the only currency that matters is cunning, being cunning and smart. 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:18.800 And how to beat the system essentially right. 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:22.240 So, how to bend, how to be a. 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:25.400 Hustler, how to be a hustler and hustle other young 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:28.159 men out of cash that you think you deserve more of. 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:32.200 And by the way, it's working because they've obviously accumulated 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:35.640 a ton of wealth. Now the other side to that is, look, 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:39.120 these are guys that pulled themselves out of poverty. According 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:42.280 to Andrew Tate himself, they literally grew up in poverty 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:45.760 in the United Kingdom, in England. The family lived on 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:50.160 the Marsh Farm estate in Luton, an area Andrew described 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:53.440 as quote the worst area of the worst town end 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:56.800 quote and listen. The family received welfare and the mother 0:05:56.880 --> 0:06:01.200 worked tirelessly to provide for them. Andrew has discussed their 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:05.159 humble beginnings on social media many many times, claiming that 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:08.200 his family were the lowest echelon of life. 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:12.800 Andrew Tape began his career as a professional kickboxer in 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:16.159 two thousand and eight and was ranked seventh best light 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:21.200 heavyweight kickboxer in the UK by the International Sports Karate Association. 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:27.320 He won several world titles and reportedly earned modest purses, 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:29.680 not enough to make him wealthy, but enough to build 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:32.960 a reputation. And during this time he began teaching kickboxing 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:36.920 and self defense lessons, both personal and line, which basically 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:39.599 grew his coaching business. And I think this is where 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:42.640 he got the model for his lifestyle coaching because it 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:46.520 was pretty successful. He leveraged early YouTube and forums to 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:49.960 promote a persona of discipline and dominance, which laid the 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:52.279 foundation for his later online empire. 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:57.680 Body continues explaining how in cells in particular tend to 0:06:57.760 --> 0:06:59.800 view the tape Brothers. It's new. 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:06.120 It's kind of a divided look on the Tape Brothers. Specifically, 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:09.440 some in cells really admire Andrew take, you know, the 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:12.360 alpha male. I think a lot of them can see 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:15.000 that the Tape Brothers are kind of like proof that 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:20.000 this hyper masculine confidence and physical dominance can overcome what 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:23.880 they perceive as an unfair dating hierarchy. But I think 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:29.080 most in cells have resentment towards the Tate Brothers. They 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:33.280 often accuse them of being fake alpha males who monetize 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:38.120 on the lonely man's epidemic. Right, the Tape Brothers basically 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:43.560 are red pill mano sphere influencers, and in cells typically 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:47.760 subscribe to the black pill ideology. And I think that 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:51.640 they sell like this hopism. They sell hope, and I 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:54.440 think in cells can view the Tape Brothers as two 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:58.920 men who busted their way out of this loneliness epidemic. 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:01.880 But that was never true. The Tape Brothers were never 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:05.680 in cells, but they sell it. They speak to in cells, 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:08.640 and they speak to the reason that the in cells 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:11.360 are such failures of life. And I think that in 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:14.960 cells who do listen to the Tape Brothers rhetoric have 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:17.600 hoped that if they purchase these courses, they're going to 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:18.600 escape it as well. 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:24.840 Here's Louise, who identifies as a black pilled in cell. 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:29.040 He's twenty two years old, lives in southern California and 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:31.240 has been in the in cell community since he was 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:35.760 about nineteen. Louise talks about the dichotomy between the Tape 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:37.240 Brothers and in cells. 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:42.360 So, yeah, in cells were former pickup artists, which is 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:45.160 very interesting because actually research on that, there's a paper 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:48.320 by some guy called Devolving the Manosphere, like some academic guy. 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:50.719 That's when he found that on pickup artist forums. When 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:54.079 Internet traffic and user bases were going down, on insel 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:56.640 forums they were going up. So there's a pickup artist 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:59.280 to in cell pipeline. So you can imagine like a 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:02.960 young man who's struggling with women goes to pick up artistry, 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:06.160 learns cold approach and nagging and quino and all that 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:08.959 bullshit they do, all those like stupid when it belt 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:11.400 of tactics that they use doesn't work, and then boom 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:14.160 they become an insuell. And I think that's very important 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:17.439 because people, for example, like red pill people call those 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:20.439 guys in cells. They'd be like. People call Andrew Tate 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:23.520 an insull like insults. Hate all those I hate those people. 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:27.200 Those people suck insults. It's very specific, it's a very 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:30.800 very specific community. It's not red Pill, it's not none 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:33.160 of those guys. It's not a guy who hates women. Look, 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:35.080 I hate to say this. There's plenty of guys out 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:37.960 there who hate women and they do just fine. You know, 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:40.560 that's just the unfortunate reality. Okay, we don't live in 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:42.440 some just world and there are plenty of guys who 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:44.440 don't hate women and their virgins. 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:51.679 M let's stop here for a break. We'll be back 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:52.160 in a moment. 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:54.720 M hm. 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:15.160 We spoke about Andrew Tate's Hustler University and other man 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:17.920 camps in a previous episode, but wanted to look into 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:21.240 how his webcam business came to be, as well as 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:25.360 legal allegations surrounding them. It's important to note that Andrew 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:32.960 Tate denies all the following allegations. Here's investigative journalist Connor Powell. 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:37.320 Andrew Tate in twenty sixteen was an unknown social media 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:40.920 influencer until he landed on a pretty big show in 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:44.720 the UK called Big Brother UK. During that time, the 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:47.840 producers of The Big Brother all found out that the 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:52.760 Bedfordshire Police and the Crown Prosecution Service in the UK 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:58.120 had investigated Andrew Tate after two women in Luden, England, 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:01.520 accused him of rape and physical assault, and that sort 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:05.480 of ended his appearance on this show. It did two things. 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:08.920 On one hand, he's now dealing with these accusations of 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:13.439 rape and sexual assault, but now he's famous across England 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:16.319 and the United Kingdom and really the world at this time. 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:19.360 So as soon as these accusations appear, one of the 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:22.560 other things that comes out is a video of Andrew 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:27.200 Tate physically abusing a woman, beating her, talking, just saying 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:28.800 really vile things to her. 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:33.440 Here's an excerpt from that video. The voice you hear 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:37.000 is Andrew Tates. In the video, we see the back 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:39.959 of a woman pointing out bruises on her lower half. 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:46.720 Show the camera your tattoo, Tell the camera I beat 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:48.800 you when you don't do as I say? Why are 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:49.360 you getting hit? 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:50.800 Why are you getting beaten? 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:54.840 Do as I say? 0:11:56.960 --> 0:12:00.440 Now? Andrew Tait has claimed since that time that he 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:03.000 did nothing wrong and that the video was a private 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:05.600 game taken out of context, and you know, he said 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:08.000 back in twenty sixteen that he would never hurt anyone 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:11.160 against their will, But that doesn't quite square with what 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:14.319 the alleged victim actually told Vice News a couple of 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:17.440 years later. She claimed that they had told the police 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:19.839 everything at first, and that her feeling was that the 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:24.240 police believed her, but then nothing happened. The police in 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:27.400 the United Kingdom don't charge him with anything. But then 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:31.120 a few years later, in twenty twenty three, Andrew Tate 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:34.319 and his brother Tristan are now living in Romania, and 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:39.320 for several years their online personality is growing. They're selling sex, 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:43.160 They're selling fast cars, money, guns. It's all backed up 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:47.040 with sort of misogynistic type language about how women are 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:50.360 just there to serve men. And Andrew Tate has sort 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:52.520 of cracked the code of what it is to be 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:53.240 a real man. 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:57.719 In December of twenty twenty two, the Romanian police rate 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:02.040 Andrew and Tristan Tate's compound and caressed it's a late 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:05.679 night operation and they storm the villa. The brothers are 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:10.559 arrested on human trafficking, rape and forming an organized criminal unit. 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:16.560 They find money, they find guns, They find weapons all 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:20.640 over the house. They also find these surveillance video cameras 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:24.840 where Andrew and Tristan are accused of basically running a 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:28.720 sex ring where these women are forced to perform sexual 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:31.959 acts on camera. The accusation is that these acts were 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:35.120 against their will, that they weren't willing participants because they 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:38.160 weren't able to leave this compound, that Andrew and Tristan 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:42.040 were essentially holding them there, and that's the accusation. And 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:45.200 this is when Andrew Tate really begins to deal with 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:50.200 some serious legal problems, and this twenty fifteen case is 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:53.200 brought back up as sort of, look, there's precedent, There 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:58.520 is accusations of assault and rape that stem from years before. 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:01.480 So that twenty fifteen case, which is wrapped up in 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:04.800 twenty sixteen with no charges, then becomes part of a 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:07.599 twenty twenty three case in Romania. 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:12.040 Here's a clip from an appearance Andrew Tate did on 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:16.320 a podcast called Fit and Fresh. He's talking about one 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:17.160 of the arrests. 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:20.960 I was like, who are you They're going to arrest 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:23.840 for a suspicion of assault of this dumb hope, Like. 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:28.440 They didn't bom gonna protect. 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:30.720 I'm a knife guy. 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:38.320 Andrew and Tristan Tate were arrested and detained, their passports taken. 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:42.520 They're now facing allegations of human trafficking, one counter rape, 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:44.800 and being part of an organized criminal group. 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:51.120 Connor continues, what the Romanian prosecutors and in the country 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:54.600 start accusing him of doing is essentially using this lover 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:57.920 boy method. And the idea behind this lover boy method 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:02.680 is that Andrew tate women into his compound, into his 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:06.520 world with the promise of a relationship or modeling work 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:11.240 and then coercing them into producing explicit content and dressing online, 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:15.400 doing sex acts online. But the money that they make 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:19.720 while living in Romania while running this sex trafficking organization, 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:23.000 essentially is when the money really explodes for them, and 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:25.880 six women actually come forward and say that this was 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:30.040 happening to them, and they're using these women to perform 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:33.400 these sex acts on camera, they're videoing it, they're putting 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:36.040 it out there on the Internet to subscribers, and the 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:39.480 amount of money that at their disposal just explodes. They 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:44.440 go from being wealthy and rich to living extravagant lifestyles 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:46.440 where they can just do anything, and it's all built 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:48.360 on the back of these women that they're exploiting. 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:53.600 All the while Andrew take continues online appearances spreading his 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:56.080 message that women should submit to men. 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:02.880 In the past famously said I am absolutely sexist and 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:05.040 I'm absolutely a misogynist. 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:06.120 The woman must. 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:08.800 Learn that her man is an iron mountain and the 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:10.400 easiest path is to obey. 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:13.080 Any other kind of resistance simply doesn't work. 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:18.720 The investigation into the Tape Brothers expands further still as 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:23.680 authorities arrest two women who are part of Tate's inner circle. Again, 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:27.720 Connor Powell. 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:28.880 You often see there's one or two women who are 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:33.320 helping to recruit other women into this sex trafficking ring, 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:35.920 and that's essentially what we see with these two other women. 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:39.680 After a year of negative headlines and being arrested and 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:43.400 essentially being detained in Romania, the Tape Brothers, they go 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:46.120 on the offensive. They launched this sort of global media 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:49.920 offensive around the world, claiming to be politically persecuted and 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:55.440 that the Romanian prosecutors are essentially attacking them for their 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:56.360 political views. 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:03.320 Andrew and Tristan Tate takes to social media x Rumble podcasts, 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:06.040 all with the message of standing up for men around 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:08.399 the world and fighting what they call the war on 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:13.120 men and the war on free speech, and so. 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:16.879 You've got this entire debate going on about what it 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:18.840 is to be a young man, what it is to 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:21.840 be able to have free speech. They deny all the charges, 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:25.040 They repeat the claim that these women were all consenting 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:29.200 partners and that they were fabricating their stories. But more importantly, 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:32.320 they don't just make these claims. The people who follow 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:36.119 Andrew and Tristan Tate they repeat these claims. And so 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:40.679 the way that the innocent claims are echoed across all 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:42.720 of social media, it just rrupts. 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:47.880 I think it's extremely important that we stop allowing media spin, 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:53.119 wrap up smears, lies, or carefully constructed narratives from George 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:56.840 Soros funded operations trying to destroy the reputations of good 0:17:56.840 --> 0:17:58.679 people who have no intention to do anything other than 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:02.360 follow They. 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:04.399 Had claimed, essentially that the Matrix was attacking them, a 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:07.160 reference to the movie The Matrix, that there's this sort 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:10.760 of hidden global network that was attacking the Tape Brothers 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:14.560 because of their support for male masculinity and their support 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:17.399 for free speech. And they see a real surge in 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:23.720 popularity around this time, and this campaign forms their response 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:27.119 to these charges, and it becomes a very effective response 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:31.080 public relations wise. The Romanian authorities hit back and in 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:35.320 August of twenty twenty four they opened new criminal charges 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:38.000 and an investigation in the Tristan and Andrew Tat. 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:43.240 The new accusations allege that not only were they trafficking adults, 0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:47.000 but now they're human trafficking miners. There's also account of 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:51.160 having intercourse with the miner, tampering with witnesses, and money laundering. 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:57.880 Andrew Tate's response at this time is that these accusations 0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:01.160 are recycled smear campaign against them, and that they're sort 0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:04.040 of that the Romanian authorities were just desperate to keep 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:07.600 the circus going. So Andrew Tate is telling his followers, 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:11.320 you can't believe the authorities. They failed with the previous 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:13.720 attempts and so now they have to level up the 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:16.560 attacks on me. And this is a really effective response 0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:18.679 for a lot of his supporters around the world, and 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:23.679 so he's using this delay, these types of investigations to 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:26.159 build the case publicly for him in terms of his 0:19:26.200 --> 0:19:29.120 defense that listen, I haven't been convicted of anything. There's 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:31.200 lots of allegations against me that they're just out to 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:32.879 get me, that they don't really have anything on me, 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:36.200 and that becomes a really effective response for a lot 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:37.800 of his supporters, which is, you know, if he was 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:41.600 actually guilty of something, he'd be convicted, but he's on 0:19:41.800 --> 0:19:44.480 home arrest and detention in Romania. He's not allowed to 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:46.760 go anywhere, and so for a lot of people, a 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:48.560 lot of his supporters, it really does look like he's 0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:51.200 just being persecuted in Romania and that this is all 0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:54.879 sort of a fake accusation against him. And you know, 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:58.360 he's really used that well in terms of his defense, 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:02.680 because it's almost ten years of accusations but no convictions. 0:20:04.520 --> 0:20:07.240 After several years of being on home arrest in Romania, 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:10.160 the Tape Brothers are allowed to travel to the United States, 0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:13.960 where they are also citizens. In February of twenty twenty five, 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:18.440 the brothers touchdown in Florida to much fanfare. Here's a 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:21.080 clip from WPLG Local ten. 0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:24.680 Now, we're going to go out. 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:27.760 To Fort Lauderdale International Airport where the Tape Brothers are 0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:29.000 just leaving the airport. 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:29.920 We understand. 0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:31.600 Maybe we'll listen and see if we can hear what 0:20:31.640 --> 0:20:32.040 they're saying. 0:20:32.200 --> 0:20:34.040 All the things that go around about us on the 0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:36.159 internet We've yet to be convicted of any crime in 0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:38.159 our lives. Ever, we have no criminal record anywhere on 0:20:38.200 --> 0:20:38.639 the planet. 0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:38.840 Ever. 0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:42.080 Our case was dismissed on the nineteenth of December in 0:20:42.200 --> 0:20:45.560 Romania under the Biden administration, and our prosecutor recently decided, 0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:47.520 because we have no active indictment in court, to let 0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:50.400 us go and return. This is the democratic society. It's 0:20:50.400 --> 0:20:52.600 supposed to be innocent until proven guilty, as my brother. 0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:56.720 And I are. Social media really lights up, hailing the 0:20:56.760 --> 0:21:01.280 brothers as symbols of resilience, of masculinity, and of free speech. 0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:05.160 Andrew Tate is posting photos of him with an American 0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:08.720 flag with the caption that says freedom isn't granted by governments, 0:21:08.720 --> 0:21:12.680 It's taken back by strong men. Welcome to a new era. 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:16.080 And then Tristan Tate, you know, follows up as essentially saying, 0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:18.359 you know, they tried to destroy us, they tried to 0:21:18.400 --> 0:21:21.719 destroy Trump, but the truth always wins. It isn't too 0:21:21.800 --> 0:21:24.560 long after they arrive in Florida that the state of 0:21:24.560 --> 0:21:28.200 Florida opens up a criminal investigation into the Tate brothers, 0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:32.359 and a couple days later, Andrew and Tristan Tate become 0:21:32.480 --> 0:21:36.199 the subjects of a new criminal investigation launched by the 0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:40.160 Florida Attorney General's office, and you immediately get pushed back 0:21:40.480 --> 0:21:43.879 on the Tate brothers in Florida by Governor DeSantis and 0:21:43.920 --> 0:21:51.240 a bunch of other Republican leaders at Attorney General's office. 0:21:49.400 --> 0:21:53.520 This morning, Florida's Attorney General opening a criminal investigation into 0:21:53.560 --> 0:21:56.879 American brothers Andrew and Tristan Tate, who are charged with 0:21:57.000 --> 0:22:00.679 human trafficking in Europe. The Florida ag saying, based on 0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:03.760 a thorough review of the evidence, I've directed the Office 0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:08.159 of Statewide Prosecution to execute search warrants and issue subpoenas 0:22:08.200 --> 0:22:11.560 in the now act of criminal investigation into the Tate brothers. 0:22:13.440 --> 0:22:15.600 This kind of puts the Tate brothers on notice that, 0:22:15.680 --> 0:22:17.760 you know, America may not be the safest place for 0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:21.840 them right now. And they release a statement saying that 0:22:22.119 --> 0:22:26.680 it's a politically motivated fishing expedition, but they're now facing 0:22:26.800 --> 0:22:30.480 another investigation in the United States. It's in Florida. It's 0:22:30.480 --> 0:22:32.520 a place where they thought they would be fine. They 0:22:32.520 --> 0:22:34.520 returned to the US thinking that they were, you know, 0:22:34.600 --> 0:22:36.720 essentially going to be granted the freedom to move around 0:22:36.760 --> 0:22:39.280 the United States that they weren't having and didn't have 0:22:39.400 --> 0:22:42.800 in Romania. Governor Ron DeSantis even goes so far as 0:22:42.800 --> 0:22:46.040 saying that the Tate Brothers are not welcome in Florida, 0:22:46.040 --> 0:22:51.000