1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:00,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, that. 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 2: Chuck Norris was chasing the Tyrannosaurus Rex. 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 3: The rex was not chasing the jeep. Murray Murry, you there. 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 3: You love sandwiches. Huh, Let's go to eighty. 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 4: It was bo. 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 3: Wow that Prime Time. Maybe I had a crush on 7 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 3: Betty Rubble. 8 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 2: I honestly, until after the segment ended and we went 9 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: to a commercial break, had no idea that Jonathan Coachman 10 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: was black. 11 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 3: He caught them the game last night, although they won 12 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 3: the game. You're listening just to Godson Company. 13 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: He is one of the great football minds in our industry. 14 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 2: I miss him dearly. He is laughing at me already. 15 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: I was trying to prop him up. Bill barnwall Is 16 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 2: with us, Why are you laughing? You are one of 17 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 2: the great football minds we have in this industry. 18 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 4: The mind, the mind element up. But if you say 19 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 4: a writer, at least there's content that's being put out, Yes, 20 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 4: but the mind element feels like it stretches beyond to 21 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 4: it like a different plane of ability there. 22 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 3: I don't know that I could really take credit for 23 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 3: too far? Is that what you're saying? 24 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 4: A tiny bit too? 25 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: Bill Barnwells with him, you can check him out all 26 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 2: over ESPN and of course ESPN dot com bill. Of 27 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 2: all the NFL teams this offseason, in your opinion, who 28 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 2: had the best offseason so far? 29 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 3: Who? 30 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 4: That's a good question, thank you, best overall off season? Yes, 31 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 4: it's easier to think of the teams who did not 32 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 4: have the best overall off season. The Ravens did not 33 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 4: have the best overall off season? Would it be crazy 34 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 4: to say the Colts? And I know that, Like I'm 35 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 4: a little nervous about that Daniel Jones contract. I don't 36 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 4: think I would want to take fifty million dollars out 37 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 4: of my bank account and handed Daniel Jones and say, hey, 38 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 4: play quarterback and stay healthy for seventeen games. But I 39 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 4: do feel like of the things they needed to add, 40 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 4: they needed to resign Alec Pearce, who's a super underrated player. 41 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 4: They needed to get Daniel Jones back under contract. This 42 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 4: organization had been through just a mess of quarterbacks over 43 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 4: the last almost decade now since Andrew Luck retired. Getting 44 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,839 Speaker 4: Daniel Jones back on it to your deal, I think 45 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 4: it's generally a positive when you look at the numbers 46 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 4: for that contract. So Cults are the first team that 47 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,119 Speaker 4: comes to mind, although I think there are not many 48 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 4: people who agree with me. Bill. 49 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 5: I'm checking out your article on ESPN dot com today 50 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 5: the twenty big remaining issues for the twenty contenders, and 51 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 5: it's just chock full of good information. But my question 52 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 5: for you is do you really have twenty contenders next year? 53 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 2: That's a great question, because if you have twenty contenders, Bill, 54 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 2: you know what you don't have. 55 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 4: You don't have one. I mean, okay, here's the problem. 56 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 4: If I start picking contenders, Yes, people are going to 57 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 4: be mad. If I make an arbitrary list of who 58 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 4: I think is going to contend, people are going to 59 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 4: get upset. So I try to pick the most bland 60 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 4: description of what a contender is. These are twenty four 61 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 4: and twenty five playoff teams, so if you made the 62 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 4: playoffs in the last two years, to me, you are 63 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 4: a contender. 64 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 5: You might as well just said everybody but the Jets 65 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 5: and Dolphins. 66 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 3: It's easy to figure out who's not a contender. 67 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: You're right, Oh, that is so good. I want the 68 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: list of twenty contenders. You can get them for me. 69 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 3: I got it right here. 70 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 2: I'll do you really, okay, So give me his top 71 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 2: contender who's his top contender. 72 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 3: He doesn't have him listed like that. 73 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 5: I just I just see the list of the teams 74 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 5: we can jump to. 75 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, so we'll we'll get we'll get back 76 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 3: to in alphabetical order. Go ahead, all right, So give 77 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 3: them to me. I want him, go right now, give 78 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: him to me, all right. 79 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 6: Baltimore, Yes, Buffalo, Yes, Carolina? What that warms my heart 80 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 6: to see Carolina the division last year almost they were. 81 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 6: They had a lead on the Rams in the final 82 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 6: three minutes of a playoff game last year. 83 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: You're right, stop yelling at Super Bowl. Yes, I mean, listen, 84 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 2: you're one of the great football minds. Don't yell and 85 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 2: stop yelling at me. 86 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 3: All right, keep going from Carolina, please, Okay. After that, 87 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 3: we have Chicago, Yeah, we have Denver. 88 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: Yes, we have Detroit, Yes, Green Bay, r Houston. 89 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: Okay, Jacksonville Okay, Kansas City, Yes. 90 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 5: Both LA teams. 91 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 4: Jesus did pretty good so far. 92 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 3: Minnesota. 93 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 2: He's doing a good job of reading. I just don't 94 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 2: agree with most of them. I'm sorry, I understand, but 95 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 2: this is one of the great football minds that we have. 96 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 2: I have a hard time seeing the Vikings win a 97 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 2: Super Bowl. What's gonna happen here? 98 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 3: Bill? 99 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 4: With JJ McCarthy, he's gonna be gone. I mean, there's 100 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 4: no reason for Kyler Murray to sign in Minnesota unless 101 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 4: he's extremely confident he's gonna be the starter. And there's 102 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 4: no reason for Carson Wentz, who sat out most of 103 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 4: the offseason last year, to sign in Minnesota to be 104 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 4: the number three quarterback. J McCarthy is a sunk cost 105 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 4: at this point for the Minnesota Vikings. The GM who 106 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 4: drafted him is no longer in the building. They saw 107 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 4: him last year, they had to watch even practice. They 108 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 4: know he got hurt multiple times. There's no reason for 109 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 4: them to continue with the JJ McCarthy scherade. He's going 110 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 4: to be somewhere else. I would imagine in Los Angeles 111 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 4: with Jim Harbaugh. But just feel like he has to 112 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,679 Speaker 4: find a new spot to mary developed behind a starter. 113 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 7: Bill, I'm seeing everybody zig and I'm trying to zag. 114 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,799 Speaker 7: When the Max Crosby trade breaks down? Am I crazy? 115 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 7: With the additions that the Raiders made and adding Fernando Mendoza. 116 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 7: I can kind of talk myself into the Raiders sneaking 117 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 7: their way into the playoffs this year. 118 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 3: Oh, jeez, I could sneak by. 119 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 4: I can top myself into them being better than people think, 120 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 4: because when you improve dramatically, the two things that almost 121 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 4: always come along with that are upgrade a quarterback, upgrade 122 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 4: a head coach. You can make a case the Raiders 123 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 4: have done both this year if they draft Mendoza and 124 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 4: they hired Clint Kubiak as head coach. The problem is, 125 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 4: if you'd ask me last year, are the Raiders going 126 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 4: to be better? I would say yes, because they upgraded 127 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 4: the head coach and they upgraded a quarterback. And I 128 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 4: went ozer for two in those upgrades at head coaching 129 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 4: quarterback last year. So I've just been burned. I do 130 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 4: feel like there are a better team that people give 131 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 4: them credit for, but the schedule is difficult. Mendoza is 132 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 4: not gonna have a ton of help up front. I 133 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,239 Speaker 4: think they're a year away from being a year away. 134 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 5: It's amazing that we're saying they upgraded a head coach 135 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 5: from an unknown commodity, from a guy who's probably headed 136 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 5: to the Hall of Fame as a head coach. 137 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 3: But yes, Bill, who are the best remaining free agents? 138 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 3: In your opinion? 139 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 4: Is it crazy to say that Kirk Cousins might be 140 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 4: one of the best remaining free agents. He's not a 141 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 4: terrible quarterback, and I mean, how many teams last year 142 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 4: had to turn to let's say, a Jared Didham in 143 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 4: the AFC Championship game woul That game had gone differently 144 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 4: if the Vikings had had, say le Broncos, had had 145 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins at quarterback. Potentially, I think some of the 146 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 4: edge rushers think Shian Clowney, Joey Bosa still available. You know, 147 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 4: just those guys who are gonna be They're gonna play 148 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 4: fifty five sixty percent of the stops, They're gonna get 149 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 4: seven or eight sacks, They're gonna take one absolutely insane 150 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 4: penalty in a playoff game, but they're gonna be overall 151 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 4: pretty solid pass rushers. I think that's gonna be an addition. 152 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 4: Taylor Decker, left tackle formerly of the Lions, who's a 153 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 4: free agent. Uh, just there's so many teams who again 154 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 4: need tackle help at some point during the season. Have 155 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 4: to imagine he's gonna get an opportunity. And then I 156 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 4: throw Deebo Samuel out there. We no, he set the 157 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 4: guy from five years ago, but incredible yack production. Year 158 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 4: after year. He's the Yak God. I just think all 159 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 4: these teams who want to throw short passes, want up 160 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 4: throw screens, want to play quick game, Deebo Samuel is 161 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 4: a really valuable player in those offenses. So some veterans, 162 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 4: which you typically linger in the market, but I do 163 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 4: see some guys who could make a difference in twenty 164 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 4: twenty six. 165 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 7: Bill, were you surprised with the return that the Dolphins 166 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 7: were able to get for Jalen Waddle because it feels 167 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 7: like the Dolphins are more likely to draft a number 168 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 7: one receiver than Jalen Waddle is to ever be comme 169 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 7: a number one wide receiver. 170 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 4: Oh strong, Well, he was for one year in Miami, 171 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 4: but that's one year out of like six or five. 172 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 4: At this point of his career, he's a good player. 173 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 4: And maybe it was a case of the Dolphins saying, hey, 174 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 4: we're not going to trade not only our best player left, 175 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 4: but probably the most popular player we have left on 176 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 4: this roster after all the other guys we cut, we're 177 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 4: traded away in the prior twelve months unless we get 178 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 4: a first round pick and more. I wonder if it 179 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 4: was just like a the Broncos felt like we have 180 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 4: to get this guy, and the Dolphins were not willing 181 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 4: to do anything less than what they got because if 182 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 4: they traded him for like a second round pick, it's almost, 183 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 4: you know, like that's the only guy left who people 184 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 4: have on their jerseys outside of Divide eight chan, you know, 185 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 4: in the stance. So I did think it was probably 186 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 4: a little more than I would have expected from the Broncos. 187 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 4: But it's a thirtieth pick in each round. They got 188 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 4: to swap a fourth round, which helps a little bit. 189 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 4: I feel like it was pretty fair in the big picture. 190 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 2: Which move did you like better? Tuwa to the Falcons 191 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 2: or Kyler Murray to the Vikings. 192 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 4: I would say Kyler to the Vikings because there are 193 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 4: a lot of crossing routes in that offense, a lot 194 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 4: of ISO stuff that Jefferson. I feel like that really 195 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 4: fits into what Kyler Murray does well. I just wonder 196 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 4: because the Vikings at Kevin O'Connell, who by the way, 197 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 4: is an extremely tall person, their offense is under center, 198 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 4: heavy play action. Kyler Murray wants to play at a shotgun, 199 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 4: wants to play at a pistol, needs to have some 200 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 4: space to see the entire field, so I want to 201 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 4: see what that offense looks like and how it's constructed. 202 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 4: Kind Of the same problem with to it in Cleveland, 203 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 4: where two wants to be in the shotgun and Kevin 204 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 4: Stefanski wants to be under center. But I do think 205 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 4: that Kyler Murray is a better player. I think he 206 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 4: has more upside. I think he has a higher ceiling, 207 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 4: and I think he's going to offer something in the 208 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 4: run game that the other Vikings quarterbacks they've had over 209 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 4: the years past. 210 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 8: If not. 211 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 3: What'd you make of Gino going back to the Jets. 212 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I love a reunion. Maybe I don't love this reunion, 213 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 4: but I love a reunion and Gino Smith has something 214 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 4: in the bag here. I just think the Jets don't 215 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 4: have the infrastructure to get what Gino Smith needs to 216 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 4: have happened. He needs better pass protection than what they have. 217 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 4: They lost both their starting guards and free agency. They 218 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 4: have one great receiver in Garrett Wilson I think is 219 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 4: legitimately a great receiver. They don't really have much else 220 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 4: to work with in the passing game. Bristol coming back 221 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 4: on the franchise tag or sorry, on the one year 222 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 4: deal does help, but it just feels like Gino has 223 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 4: to be in a perfect situation at this point to 224 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 4: be a league average or better quarterback. And we saw 225 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 4: with the Raiders last year when that offensive line was 226 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 4: a mess. Once brock Bauers got hurt, Geno couldn't compensate. 227 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 4: I kind of feel like that's gonna happen with the 228 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 4: Jets this year. 229 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 2: It's fairly amazing that he left that team, and when 230 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 2: he left, they had no infrastructure, and all these years 231 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 2: he's coming back and they still don't have that infrastructure. 232 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 2: I mean, the other worst organization in football, right, Yeah, And. 233 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 4: Well, the good news is over the course of the 234 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 4: insuing decade they also did not at any point have 235 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 4: the infrastructure ever a quarterback pick succeeds. They didn't get 236 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 4: it for like five years and then lose it. They 237 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 4: got breath for the entire decade. 238 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 7: Bill the two surprise teams last year, I think people 239 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 7: would agree on the Bears and the Patriots. Which team 240 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 7: do you think is more likely to take a step 241 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 7: back this year? 242 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 3: Wow? 243 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 4: I want to say both, but that's not a fair answer, 244 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 4: So I'm gonna give you one. I am going to 245 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 4: say Patriots because of the schedule difference this was not 246 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 4: just an easy schedule, although everyone knows it was an 247 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 4: easy schedule. By Pro Football Reference, this was the tenth 248 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 4: easiest schedule in the history of the National Football League, 249 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 4: which is a really high bar. Think about how many 250 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 4: years of football there have been, and this was a 251 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 4: historically easy schedule. Drake Bay played really well. They had 252 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 4: some incredible catch rates, which I don't think are going 253 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 4: to sustain. I think Drake Bay's efficiency is gonna drop 254 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 4: a bit. They're gonna play tougher teams. They're not gonna 255 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 4: be able to play from ahead quite as often. Their 256 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 4: run defense was a problem. They didn't play many teams 257 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 4: who got ahead and ran on them. But that's gonna 258 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 4: happen more often. Twenty twenty six and they were a 259 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 4: relatively healthy team, and I don't think that's going to 260 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 4: keep up. So they're gonna be good. I think they're 261 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 4: still going to be in the playoff mix. But I 262 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 4: would say up to the patriots of the team, I 263 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 4: have a little more concerns about heading into next season. 264 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 3: Tell you see what he did there. 265 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 2: This is why he's one of the great football minds 266 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 2: in America that we have in our industry. 267 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 3: Because the Patriots. 268 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 2: The only way they could take a step forward is 269 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 2: by getting back to the Super Bowl and winning it. 270 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, yes, you didn't even know you did. That's 271 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 3: what did you get? 272 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 8: Right? 273 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 4: The extra mind power? You know what they say, like 274 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 4: you only use ten percent of your brain. If I'm 275 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 4: one of the great football minds, I gotta be using 276 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,599 Speaker 4: at least twelve percent. Eighty thirteen percent. 277 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 3: I use five. Malik Willis. 278 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 2: Are you as high on Malik Willis as everyone else 279 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 2: seems to be? 280 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 4: No, because he's throwing two guys like me at receiver 281 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 4: at this point in the offense. Though, I thought he 282 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 4: was really good in Green Bay, much better than I expected, 283 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 4: not just as a runner but as a pure dropback passer. 284 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 4: Heavy play action rate helped him a little bit. Got 285 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 4: to play from I had. I don't think I love 286 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 4: the idea of him playing from two touchdowns behind, which 287 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 4: I think is gonna happen quite a bit this year. 288 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 4: But he just needs guys. They just don't have playmakers 289 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 4: for him at receiver in that offense, so you assume 290 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 4: they're gonna draft somebody. I think they need two three 291 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 4: receivers out of this draft to give him leek willis 292 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 4: a shot of competing in twenty twenty. 293 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 3: Six, totally unnecessary shot at two two at Well? 294 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 4: I mean, what are you are? Do you represent mister Atwell? 295 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 4: Are you his agent? I mean that is that unreasonable 296 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 4: to say? This man got ten million dollars and he 297 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 4: wasn't even playing for the Rams by the end of 298 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 4: the regular season. 299 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 7: Bill, Now I'm imagining you running routes and your your 300 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 7: football receiver name is Bill Barne at Well. 301 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 3: So am I what a great target? He would be? 302 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 4: Two runs like a four to four forty. I run 303 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 4: like a fourteen to four to forty. So just add 304 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 4: a little bit more and I'll catch up with two 305 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 4: two Eventually. 306 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 2: Taylor wasn't terribly confident, n he wasn't jervy if it 307 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 2: landed well, I don't think it did. 308 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 3: Bill. 309 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 2: We appreciate you. You're a great writer, a great football mind, 310 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 2: and a great person. Check him out on ESPN dot 311 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 2: com and all over ESPN as well. 312 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 3: Thank you for doing this man. 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We will pick it 355 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 2: up after Fred Hoiberg. What a treat does Marcus Smart 356 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 2: win a national championship? 357 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 3: I mean to get to Fred. 358 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 2: The mayor, Fred Hoiberg, the head coach of Nebraska, joining 359 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 2: us right now, right after a first round victory? 360 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 3: Here, coach, thank you for joining us. How are you good? 361 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 8: Good? How you guys doing doing great. 362 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 3: Congratulations to you, coach, big win for you. 363 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, thank you. I'm really happy for our guys, proud 364 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 8: of them. You know, I'm not sure how much you 365 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 8: guys saw this, but it was the best neutral site 366 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 8: atmosphere I have ever been in. Our fan just absolutely 367 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 8: took over, and you know, when I went out for 368 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 8: the anthem, I really got emotional just seeing all the 369 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 8: red in the crowd, and you know, they really helped us, 370 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 8: really will us to that win, and we went on 371 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 8: a run. You know, just the roof blew off the place, 372 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 8: so it was it was incredible. Great to share that 373 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 8: with the fans and you know, hopefully continue on this journey. 374 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 10: Yeah, coach, I caught the beginning of the game right 375 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 10: before you started going on your run, and it felt 376 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 10: like there was a little bit of extra tension in 377 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 10: the air. Obviously the first tournament win for you guys 378 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 10: at stake. Did it feel bigger going in even before 379 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 10: you saw you know, the fans and everybody at that 380 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 10: site ready for you. 381 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 8: That's a great question. You know, I get the question 382 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 8: a lot. Do I bring it up? I don't have to. 383 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 8: There's been enough attention on it, and you know, it's 384 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 8: out there. Our guys read all about it, so they 385 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 8: know they know what's at stake. And you know, I 386 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 8: told them, I said, guys, listen, at the end of 387 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 8: the day, pressures of privilege. Is there pressure on us? Yeah, 388 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 8: but there's also pressure on Troy. And you know, for 389 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 8: us to go out there, it was all about we 390 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 8: had a disappointing game in Chicago against Purdue. Now, a 391 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 8: lot of that had to do with Purdue. They're absolutely 392 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 8: rolling right now and they cut down the net in Chicago. 393 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 8: But you know, it gave us a chance to reset 394 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 8: and get back to work and get back to who 395 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 8: we are and you know, the core values, and we 396 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 8: talked a lot about that going into this game. And 397 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 8: you know the importance of in these early ones. You know, 398 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 8: game started before noon here local time, is you know, 399 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 8: the team that gets off to the fast start generally 400 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 8: wins these games. But if it didn't happen, we had 401 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 8: to stay more emotionally stable than we did the last 402 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 8: time that we played, which was against Purdue. So you know, 403 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 8: I'm just I'm really thankful for the guys how they 404 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 8: prepared for this one. You know, Troy hit a couple 405 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 8: of tough threes, early in this one to build a 406 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 8: little bit of a lead, but we never panicked and 407 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 8: we got that thing going. Price Stanford it five threes 408 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 8: in the first half, and you know, they just kept 409 00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 8: the heat and kept the pressure and kept their footing 410 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 8: the gas. So you know, just it's good to get 411 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 8: to this one behind us, and you know, now it's 412 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 8: about are you satisfied? And you know, one thing, I'm 413 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 8: confident our guys all year long, they have really been 414 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 8: good and resilient as far as putting big emotional either 415 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 8: wins or losses behind us. Got a film session tonight. 416 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 8: We talk a lot about next assignment. Our next assignment 417 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 8: is the film session. We got to be locked in coach. 418 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 10: If anybody had seen Pryce Sandford shoot for the first 419 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 10: time today, they thought to themselves, Wow, this might be 420 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 10: the best shooter in this tournament. Talk about just his 421 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 10: his shooting ability and just what he can do for 422 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 10: you guys with that you know, quick release, Well. 423 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 8: It's really cool. His brother Peyton is on a two 424 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 8: way with the Thunder and he was he was in 425 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 8: the gym. He scored his first NBA points last night 426 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 8: on the road and they sent him back and he 427 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 8: was able to be there to watch Price, you know, 428 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 8: go off the way he did today. And I'll say 429 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 8: this about our guys, they do an unbelievable job finding him. 430 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 8: I thought we did a great job on the glass, 431 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 8: and we didn't force it inside against length. We kicked 432 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 8: it out and really created some open looks. And then 433 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 8: are in transition. I thought we did a good job 434 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 8: finding him in transition as well. And that's what this 435 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 8: team has been all about. They've been very unselfish. We 436 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 8: had twenty assists and only six turnovers in this game 437 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 8: today and that was a huge factor in the win. 438 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 3: Coach. 439 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 2: College sports is so interesting right now, and I am 440 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 2: wondering because I think a lot of people looked up 441 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 2: and were surprised to see how good Nebraska was at basketball. 442 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 2: But Indiana dominates football, So why not Nebraska in basketball? 443 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 2: How did you build this thing so quickly? 444 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 8: Well, I'm not sure it was quick. You know, ear 445 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 8: seven now, and you know, we here's what we took 446 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 8: over the largest rebuild in the history of the Power five, 447 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 8: and we knew we were going to take some lumps. 448 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 8: And then year two was COVID. So those first two 449 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 8: years were you know, we're really tough. I think we 450 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 8: won seven games in each of those two years and 451 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 8: then it's steadily gone uphill from there. And we got 452 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 8: the right guys in this program. We got some local kids, 453 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 8: you know, I give Sam Grizel who is from Lincoln. 454 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 8: He transferred in for his senior years. Really when we 455 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 8: started slipping everything and you know, the culture got to 456 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 8: where it needed to be. You know, we got the 457 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,239 Speaker 8: right guys to hold accountable the standards that we were 458 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 8: trying to live up to. And you know, we've had 459 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 8: a lot of guys that have just really bought into that. 460 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 8: So it's just you know, this team in particular, it's 461 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 8: been such a fun team to be around because there's 462 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 8: no agendas with this group. There's no h you know, 463 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 8: there's no distractions. They come on time, they take care 464 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 8: of their academics, you know, off off coards. There's been 465 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 8: no incidents. So it's just been you know, when you 466 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 8: when you have a group like that, it makes our 467 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 8: job as coaches a hell of a lot easier. 468 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 10: Fred March is all about, you know, the close games 469 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:37,959 Speaker 10: like even the first game that tipped off today ended 470 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 10: up being a two point game there, but where they 471 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 10: blow out like you guys experienced today, how much confidence 472 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 10: does that really give you going forward? You can move 473 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 10: past the first win and say to your team, look 474 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 10: how well we can perform when we're on our game. 475 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 8: Yeah, and we'll and listen, we'll play a completely different 476 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 8: team next game, with different schemes offensively and defensively. And 477 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 8: that's what I'm talking about getting over you know this 478 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 8: one quickly. But our guys have done it all years, 479 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,719 Speaker 8: so there's no reason to believe that that won't continue. 480 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 8: And you know, we need a film session, we'll talk 481 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,479 Speaker 8: about the game plan, we'll put it in tomorrow, we'll 482 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 8: get a new practice here in Oklahoma City, and it's 483 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 8: all about going out and executing. But I thought our 484 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 8: guys really played with discipline today and you can see 485 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 8: that with the turnover margin. I thought nineteen to three 486 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 8: on second chance points, seventeen to five in points off turnovers, 487 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 8: and then twenty six to ten points in the paint. 488 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 8: And you know, that's what it's all about. We help 489 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 8: them to twenty six percent shooting in the second half 490 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 8: or twenty four actually, and if you do that consistently, 491 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 8: that's what that's the formula for advancing. 492 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 3: In March, coach. 493 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 2: I coached my daughters. I coached her high school travel 494 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 2: across team. She's now playing at Northwestern. It's the Indiana 495 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 2: of women's college lacrosse. But I am wondering, here are 496 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 2: their challenges with coaching your own kid. 497 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 8: You know what, he's made it easy. And he came here. 498 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 8: He was in a high school the COVID year, so 499 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 8: he really wasn't evaluated and it was a tough year 500 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 8: for all those kids that were seniors during COVID because 501 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 8: you know, they just couldn't get evaluated properly. And he 502 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 8: went on a couple visit for elite camps the previous 503 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 8: year and did really well, and I think was on 504 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 8: the verge of getting a couple offers. But then they 505 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 8: had players and took advantage of the COVID year. So 506 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 8: he just said, you know, let me come and walk 507 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 8: on and see where it goes. And if he developed, 508 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 8: maybe he would go to a lower level. But you know, 509 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 8: he took advantage of when we had two season an 510 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 8: injuries Juan Gary Emmanuel Vandemouth both went down in the 511 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 8: middle of the year, and then that's what gave him 512 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 8: the chance. And he worked so hard every day, got 513 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 8: in the gym, and that's what, you know, allowed him 514 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 8: to play well and then really earn a spot in 515 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 8: rotation from that point on. But he's been a part 516 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 8: of the turnaround. He saw this thing when it was 517 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 8: at its lowest, and you know, I'm really proud of 518 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 8: how he's helped us this get this thing flipped. 519 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 2: Coach, you are my final four pick. I selected you 520 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 2: out of the South bracket. I wrote it down in 521 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 2: pen I can't erase it. So if you go to 522 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 2: the Final four, I will see you in Indianapolis. Yes, 523 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 2: all right, thank you, congratulations to you. I know it's 524 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 2: a busy time. We appreciate a business trip. Tell them 525 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 2: not to sit around and watch basketball. Get in the 526 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 2: film room. Let's go, right, coach, we're going to the 527 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 2: final four, me and you. 528 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 8: You got it. Guys, thanks so much, thank you. 529 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 3: We want nothing to do with that.