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Speaker 4: Yeah, and so much for that.

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Speaker 6: Were with Mbar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Votch Lombardi and

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Speaker 4: It is Tuesday, October twenty eighth, twenty twenty five, Season

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Speaker 4: twenty one, episode number sixty seven. Welcome to the latest

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Speaker 7: Chris, I told you Derek is too old to know

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Speaker 7: the trend six seven?

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Speaker 4: What what are you doing? And bro let me just

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Speaker 4: keep it a buggy time.

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Speaker 5: Ice just too old to know what the hell six

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Speaker 5: seven is. And I ain't got kids, so I don't

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Speaker 5: know nobody is. Nobody's taught the thirty three year old

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Speaker 5: with six seven.

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Speaker 4: You know that's actually that's actually around the age where

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Speaker 4: you start losing touch because you don't care. No more

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Speaker 4: like you don't care about it, impressident kids and who cares?

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Speaker 4: Who cares? Like? That's about the age where I started

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Speaker 4: being like, I don't care about what y'all talking about.

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Speaker 5: Y'all it's stupid, it's crazy. When I was when I

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Speaker 5: was in high school. When I was in high school,

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Speaker 5: the best rapping the world was Lil Wayne.

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Speaker 4: Lil Wayne was ridiculous in high school.

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Speaker 5: When I was in high school, yeah, middle school. Really,

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Speaker 5: Wayne was high for a long time. My dad had

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Speaker 5: no clue Wayne was hot, And I was like, man,

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Speaker 5: how do you not know that Lil Wayne is hot?

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Speaker 5: NBA young boy is a guy now I know who

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Speaker 5: he is. Can't name win him, not one song from him.

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Speaker 5: I don't know who that is, right, bad bunny, don't

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Speaker 5: know one bad Buddy song? Yep, I can't sing it.

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Speaker 4: You start seeing him in places, people are like, oh,

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Speaker 4: that's whoever?

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Speaker 8: You like?

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Speaker 4: What it is? Oh?

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Speaker 5: The NFL love a famous YouTube content created TikTok character

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Speaker 5: idd who is that?

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Speaker 4: What they do for?

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Speaker 2: What they saying? I don't know, I.

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Speaker 4: Don't see seven.

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Speaker 7: You gotta keep up?

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Speaker 4: What's six?

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Speaker 2: Seven six seven is something we can in group seven?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: Then, No, you only know if you're only group seven.

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Speaker 7: People know if they're in group seven.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like something we can't say. So we can't say.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, y'all, Brian, where are you on this?

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Speaker 2: Man? I you know what's the sad Brian's mind about six?

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Speaker 8: I just gotta get some questions right.

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Speaker 4: Back to football? Espose the programming right back? I guess,

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Speaker 4: I guess the football. Yeah, all right, So here's what

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Speaker 4: I want to do today. We're gonna we gonna got it.

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Speaker 8: We gotta we got a defense that gives up six

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Speaker 8: seven yards of carry full circle.

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Speaker 4: We are gonna get to We are gonna dive inside

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Speaker 4: the brain of Brian brought us in the second segment

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Speaker 4: and in the third segment. Today we're gonna try to

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Speaker 4: hear from you guys. We're gonna take some money.

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Speaker 2: Oh no way, no way.

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Speaker 5: Instead, you want such a trendsetter, but you want to

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Speaker 5: know what it is.

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Speaker 4: You want to know what it is. I didn't get

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Speaker 4: a chance to do the rundown last night, so this

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Speaker 4: morning I was like, well, what can you doing? A

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Speaker 4: third segment? Questions? Let's take a question, it doesn't matter

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Speaker 4: to reason. And by the way, and by the way,

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Speaker 4: next week when we're on a bye and the week

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Speaker 4: after that comes talk about So we're gonna take a

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Speaker 4: lot of questions and get ready. Get ready with your questions,

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Speaker 4: because we're gonna be listening to y'all talk more than

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Speaker 4: we're gonna be talking over the next two weeks. So

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Speaker 4: just just know that's how Thank you, Thank you.

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Speaker 7: Next up on my list the TVs. We gotta make

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Speaker 7: sure this happens.

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Speaker 9: Before their TV is right there to TVs.

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Speaker 7: Christmas time. Yeah, for Christmas, Christy christ by Christmas, Christmas time,

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Speaker 7: Christmas time.

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Speaker 4: I'll take a TV. We are Chris and she's getting

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Speaker 4: frustrated with us, Like, you know, wait till we get

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Speaker 4: to break. That's for you. In the break, I won't.

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Speaker 7: Get too cocky.

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Speaker 4: All right, here's we're gonna do.

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Speaker 2: We ain't gonna talk about it.

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Speaker 4: I'm just ticking. Okay. Now, first segment today, I did

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Speaker 4: want to talk about the injuries BB coming back this week. Brow, No,

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Speaker 4: that's not what I want to talk about. I don't worry,

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Speaker 4: but I actually want to talk about linebacker. I want

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Speaker 4: to talk about linebackeruse the owner and general manager brought

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Speaker 4: up linebacker this morning. I thought it was very interesting

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Speaker 4: the way that he called them out. This is what

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Speaker 4: he said. He says, we need to basically have better

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Speaker 4: play from the linebackers, maintaining the integrity of our gaps

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Speaker 4: which the linebackers have to fill. The linebackers have to slide.

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Speaker 4: So they did a good job against us talking about Denver,

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Speaker 4: and we did a poor job. That being said, how

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Speaker 4: significant do you think it is that Jerry spoke specifically

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Speaker 4: about a position, which he doesn't tend to do a lot.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't tend to call out specific players or positions,

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Speaker 4: even necessarily, especially when he's giving a critique. How significant

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Speaker 4: do you think that is?

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Speaker 5: Man, don't you know, I don't want to come on

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Speaker 5: his radio station and all this these paid for all

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Speaker 5: these microphones and things like that, and saying he's a

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Speaker 5: couple of weeks later on that, but boy, missus.

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Speaker 4: Jones, a couple of weeks later, we've been talking out

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Speaker 4: on the break for a minute. So if you want

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Speaker 4: to look at it indirectly, you.

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Speaker 2: Don't listen to us whatever.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, don't people that he pays talking about it.

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Speaker 4: So it's it's been addressed. Yeah, didn't address it till today.

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Speaker 5: But gap integrity, y'all, that's that's the name of the game.

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Speaker 5: When you run defense, look decent, your gap integrity was,

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Speaker 5: you know it was, it was solid. When your run

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Speaker 5: defense is horrific, nine times out of ten, it's somebody

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Speaker 5: playing hero ball and nine team ball, and the gap

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Speaker 5: integrity is not always there. Well, we've saw plenty times.

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Speaker 5: Me and Brian broke broke down a little bit of

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Speaker 5: film on it. I showed twice. It happened like seven is.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes your end doesn't stay outside, you know. And what

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Speaker 5: go right where you left off at Most of these

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Speaker 5: offensive run systems are based on the running backs eyes,

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Speaker 5: what they see in them finding grass. So not only

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Speaker 5: if you didn't hit your gap, but if you far

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Speaker 2: I think it's something on film.

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Speaker 5: Also, I can't prove this because I ain't Sean Payne

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Speaker 5: number Brian do, and I'll let you know when ever

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Speaker 5: he texts us back. I think that they're seeing on

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Speaker 5: film that our edges get caught inside too much, and

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Speaker 5: that makes the linebackers get caught inside too much. So

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Speaker 5: what happened is these teams will confidently crack your linebacker

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Speaker 5: I wonder if that's something that these past few coaches

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Speaker 2: But Jerry ain't wrong.

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Speaker 5: Jerry and his people that's feeding him and the lynx

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Speaker 5: and information, he's absolutely right.

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Speaker 4: Let me ask you this question real quick on that

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Speaker 4: before you go, Brian. When you talk about the defensive

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Speaker 4: ends getting caught inside, and I brought this up yesterday,

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Speaker 4: and I can't quite figure out which I think it is.

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Speaker 4: It's happening a lot, as you said, You see it

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Speaker 4: on film a ton, particularly with Sam Well. He crashes

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Speaker 4: wonder is he being coached and is it his responsibility

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Speaker 4: not him that's the problem. The problem is the linebacker

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Speaker 4: where that is his responsibility. Which do you think it is.

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Speaker 8: It's called the run blitz and what it is is Sam.

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Speaker 8: And we've talked about this before. If we remember when

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Speaker 8: coming this way. I'm gonna go hard inside charge and

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Speaker 8: see if I can make a play. I think Sam

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Speaker 8: when you go down and like Vox was talking about it,

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Speaker 8: it's a B gap fill, it's a C gap fill.

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Speaker 8: And there's been times where we've seen and again watch

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Speaker 8: Now you've got to replace the B gap and the

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Speaker 8: it a solid front. Dallas hasn't been able to get that.

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Speaker 8: You know, they've had unfortunately, they've had plays where all

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Speaker 8: of a sudden, a guys, say, like an outstanding run

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Speaker 4: He's on the ground.

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Speaker 8: Now guard's up on the linebacker, so the linebacker can't.

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Speaker 4: Get over to make a fill. So now you have an.

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Speaker 8: Inside charge, no fill, and then the other fill is

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Speaker 8: too wide, having to take two gaps. We saw that

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Speaker 8: with the situation with with Elam. You know, Elom is

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Speaker 8: in the in the play, but he's too wide to

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Speaker 8: make the play. The ball goes up inside of him.

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Speaker 8: So it's it's to answer your question, it's Sam being

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Speaker 8: told to play, but they're getting hurt when it comes

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Speaker 8: to the execution of actually where everybody needs to fit

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Speaker 5: Also to his ways, you can actually tell the very

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Speaker 5: first player of the game, Marsha and kneeling when you

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Speaker 5: saw him, he didn't immediately go inside like he was

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Speaker 5: outside a little bit and tight end took him inside,

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Speaker 5: like like that's that's one of us to tell. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: And then there's another way to tell, you know, coaches

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Speaker 5: will tell you to cheat a little bit, like if

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Speaker 5: it's your job to get the B gap, then you

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Speaker 5: It happened to Dante Foule. It ain't men called him out,

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Speaker 5: It just kind of happened a little bit. Dante Foulers

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Speaker 5: started off real wide. I'm like, man, why would you

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Speaker 8: I think when you've listened to and this is one

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Speaker 8: No this week. This week was a I think it

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Speaker 4: To be better.

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Speaker 8: And you know he could have he could very easily

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Speaker 8: said our defensive line play has to be better, our

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Speaker 8: overall the tone of your top, your coach, and your

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Speaker 8: I mean that is just not and you know, usually

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Speaker 2: I didn't.

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Speaker 8: I didn't detect that in the last couple of days

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting, Brian, even though it's starting on Sunday.

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Speaker 4: I think we heard a different tone from coach Shoddy

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it was there was we'll get on the practice

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Speaker 4: Yeah we got for correct our mistake. It will be better.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't that. It was, hey, this ain't good enough.

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Speaker 4: And my question becomes like, I know he said, you

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Speaker 4: I mean, I know you're gonna get some players back,

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Speaker 2: I was just.

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Speaker 8: If you feel like that, Stephen Jones regrets saying that

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Speaker 5: Man, they all regretting that stuff. Of course, he said

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Speaker 5: For me, this is a true blue. The run defense

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Speaker 8: How about you amber this Stephen Jones, you think he

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Speaker 5: something out, it's happening fast.

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Speaker 7: It's just it's just unfortunate that it's going to this

443
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Speaker 7: point of the season so far along to where you

444
00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:54,719
Speaker 7: haven't actually seen true improvement or some sense of hope.

445
00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:55,360
Speaker 7: We saw it.

446
00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:56,080
Speaker 4: What was it?

447
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Speaker 7: Who did we play the Was it the Panthers two

448
00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,880
Speaker 7: weeks ago? No, watch Washington. We saw there and there

449
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,320
Speaker 7: was a little bit of hope that you started feeling,

450
00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,800
Speaker 7: but you knew you had to see it happen back,

451
00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,240
Speaker 7: you know, back to back weeks and have some kind

452
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Speaker 7: of consistency there. But not enough has happened to where

453
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Speaker 7: you think, yeah, that trade made any difference.

454
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Speaker 2: Derek, how much better does this defense have to be?

455
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Speaker 5: And how fast before we start to feel better about

456
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Speaker 5: about flues?

457
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Speaker 8: Two more stops a game, two more stops again, two

458
00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:31,920
Speaker 8: more stops again?

459
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Speaker 5: Like it is that enough to make you go, all right, Louis,

460
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Speaker 5: next year we're gonna run it back.

461
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Speaker 4: I'm just this, you know.

462
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Speaker 8: To me, That's why I think I'm still really gung

463
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Speaker 8: ho about making a trade, because I'm interested in finding

464
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Speaker 8: a way give this offense two more possessions a game.

465
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Speaker 2: So give them two more possessions.

466
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Speaker 8: A game and see what happens. And I think that

467
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Speaker 8: I think you'll be out of harm's way a lot more.

468
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Speaker 8: You know now, now teams are chasing, but teams have

469
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Speaker 8: thrown the ball well against you too, But I would

470
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Speaker 8: rather them try and you know, maybe you can. We've

471
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Speaker 8: seen them get pressure. You just haven't seen him get

472
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Speaker 8: the sacks. But I'm thinking two more stops a game

473
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 8: handing the ball back to your offense. It worked in

474
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Speaker 8: the Commander's game. They got plenty of stops in the

475
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Speaker 8: Commander's game. And what Dallas do. They took advantage of

476
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Speaker 8: the offense, took advantage of that, put up a lot

477
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Speaker 8: of points. That's all I'm asking, Man, if you give

478
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Speaker 8: me two more good stops a game, I could be

479
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Speaker 8: okay with what this team's doing.

480
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I honestly, I look at I'm a little bit

481
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 4: disheartened by what I've seen from the defense from the

482
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Speaker 4: standpoint that they're giving up chunk plays in the run

483
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:40,440
Speaker 4: game and the pass game and against poor competition. That's

484
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Speaker 4: the part that really bothers me. And it's it's really honestly,

485
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Speaker 4: there's only been one team that didn't gash them like that,

486
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Speaker 4: and they had some moments too, and that was Washington.

487
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Speaker 4: And so you basically the only team that hasn't gassed

488
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Speaker 4: you to that level had no players. Yeah, they were

489
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 4: down their top three wide receivers and and so I I, yes,

490
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Speaker 4: I look at it, and I'm like, I've gotten to

491
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Speaker 4: point now, I'm not sure that you go out and

492
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Speaker 4: get me that stud player that we've been talking so

493
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Speaker 4: much about on this show. Sure, I don't know that

494
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 4: it's going to change a ton because I would say right.

495
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Speaker 8: Now, change going back to the years the next year, yes, yes,

496
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Speaker 8: And by the way, if you get the right back

497
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Speaker 8: to your original question, I think Kenny Clark may be

498
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 8: more valuable.

499
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Speaker 4: To you if you get more players in this defense.

500
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Speaker 4: I just think right now, like there are so many problems,

501
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Speaker 4: and a lot of the problems I've been saying forever,

502
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Speaker 4: I still believe it reside with the linebacker position, and

503
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Speaker 4: because the linebackers are not being in that will expose

504
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Speaker 4: so much about your defense because they have responsibilities in

505
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Speaker 4: a run game and the past game and them being

506
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Speaker 4: out of position can affect both in some very profound ways.

507
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Speaker 4: We've seen plays down field. We've seen plays downfield this

508
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 4: year where linebacker was out of position and play ends

509
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 4: up behind them and it's yeah, touchdown. So I think

510
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 4: right now the biggest challenge just the linebackers. But I

511
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 4: think there's so many issues right now going on, I'm

512
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 4: not sure that one player solves it. And so for me,

513
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 4: that's where you do have to say, Okay, coaches, y'all

514
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 4: got to figure out a plan with this group of players,

515
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 4: because all the players can't be bad. You got to

516
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 4: figure out a plan now to use the skills of

517
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Speaker 4: the players that you have in order to make this

518
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Speaker 4: defense decent and workable.

519
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Speaker 5: I think even if Michael was here, things look weird

520
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 5: on defense.

521
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Speaker 4: Yeah that's my point. Yeah, that's my point because guess

522
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 4: what he would be crashing down just like Sam Williams doing,

523
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 4: and that linebacker still wouldn't be feeling and you still

524
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Speaker 4: have that forty yard touchdown.

525
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Barr Mike could be playing corner some.

526
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Coach Schottenheimer.

527
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Speaker 8: Coach Shottenheimer addressed changes with the lineup. Give me one

528
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Speaker 8: you'd like to make?

529
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Speaker 7: Lay Satagan.

530
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Speaker 8: Coach Schottenheimer addressed changes with the lineup, Give me one

531
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Speaker 8: you'd like to make?

532
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Speaker 2: Can I get a boys credit?

533
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Speaker 5: While she's thinking, Sam and Fouler got list got less

534
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 5: reps this week? I thought that was important shut out

535
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 5: to them. It ain't helped nothing, but I did notice

536
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 5: that they had list reps and clowney and kneeling got more.

537
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 5: Still got to figure out a little bit, But that's

538
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 5: a change. So shouts out to them for.

539
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 8: Doing that right offense your defense, you can make it.

540
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Speaker 7: Well, there are two things. No, it's because I don't

541
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Speaker 7: want to say it. I don't want to say say.

542
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Speaker 5: It, write it down, I say no, sign it.

543
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Speaker 2: Well, it just.

544
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Speaker 7: Goes back to the previous question and what I was saying, like,

545
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 7: I don't like talking. No, I don't like talking about

546
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 7: people's jobs, you know. But if there was a change

547
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 7: to be made, there would be two. One I'm meet

548
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 7: the trades, like.

549
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 4: I don't want to say it, but I got two

550
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 4: more than what you asked for.

551
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 7: It don't One is a trade. I'm making a trade happen.

552
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 7: I don't care what you guys say about the pigs

553
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 7: next year and all that. I want someone that has

554
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 7: the experience already. I don't have time to develop players.

555
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 7: I need one that has the experience to come in

556
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 7: here and stay for here next year.

557
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 8: Okay, a word with you, please, No, I've.

558
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 7: Seen it happen already. Okay, enough, it's enough. And then

559
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 7: the other one, I would change a voice. I would

560
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 7: change a voice.

561
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Speaker 2: That's a polite way to say it, boy, because I want.

562
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Speaker 7: To hear some other different type of inspiration some other

563
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 7: different type of ideas. Let's brainstorm in there and just

564
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 7: hear it from somebody else. And that's all I would

565
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 7: say on that point.

566
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Speaker 5: That's classy as hell, and that's a great way to

567
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 5: say fire today the Fens coordinator, I.

568
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 7: Don't want you to translate to reward.

569
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 4: What I was.

570
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 2: I need a new voice.

571
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 5: Oh that's fantastic, Ahead Brow, I'm sorry.

572
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 4: I think I'm changing the right tackle. I think I've

573
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 4: seen enough there. I think Nate Thomas. I think Thomas

574
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 4: might give me a little bit better, a little bit

575
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 4: better production consistently, because I will say this, I thought

576
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 4: at least and maybe it may take a little while

577
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 4: for them to get back to it. The right side

578
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 4: of the offensive line earlier in the year, I felt

579
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 4: like was giving you a really good push in the

580
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 4: run game. This last game that wasn't happening. And maybe

581
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,479
Speaker 4: it was the opponent. Maybe it was going to take

582
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 4: a while for Bookering him to get back on the

583
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 4: same page. But I just feel like that was the

584
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 4: part of Steele's game that I actually was appreciating, was

585
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 4: he was giving me something in the run game. If

586
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 4: this last game is an indication of where we're going

587
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 4: to be then I would say, let's let's get Nate

588
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 4: out there. Maybe you can get a little bit more

589
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 4: out of one or the other. But right now, I

590
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 4: just feel like that's that's the weakest link in my

591
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 4: opinion on the offensive line right now, outside of getting

592
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 4: your center back. When you get your center back, I

593
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 4: think that'll shure that up a little bit more.

594
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 5: Brian, I think we should find a new Green Die guy.

595
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 5: I think we should find a new Green Die guy.

596
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 5: And if the biggest problem is communication, then you can

597
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 5: kind of go to the nucleus of the defense. I

598
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 5: will say, which is our Green guy. I'm just man

599
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 5: as nice as I can say it. Man, you know

600
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 5: he fantastic Washington game. You had a fantastic Giants game,

601
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 5: but you've had more. You know, if you have like

602
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 5: a great game and maybe like a cool to average

603
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 5: or a bad game, I think there's a you know,

604
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 5: you can I can hang around and I can hang

605
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 5: with you, I can defend you publicly. But if you

606
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 5: have like a fantastic game and the worst game I've

607
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 5: ever seen and another worst game I've ever seen, then

608
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 5: maybe there needs to be changes at Green Doyck guy,

609
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 5: what we often see is they'll rotate linebackers out, but

610
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 5: they'll rotate the opposite guys, but they'll keep green Dock

611
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 5: guy in there. I'm trying to be nice like Ambar,

612
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 5: but but but they'll keep green Dock Guy.

613
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 7: I'm in my head right now, I'm like anything, you

614
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 7: ain't say nothing.

615
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 5: I said it. I think this team could benefit. I

616
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 5: think Mary's lee if I would be a fantastic green

617
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 5: dock guy. It may not be the best linebacker that

618
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 5: you have right now, but he is smart. And if

619
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 5: your biggest problem is communication, as long as you run

620
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 5: in the right direction, you may overrun it. But as

621
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 5: long as you run in the right direction and you

622
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 5: can at least get everybody else on the same and

623
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 5: maybe call some things out, I think that'll be a

624
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 5: little bit of a benefit.

625
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 4: Can I say some real quick and this is to

626
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 4: the point that you were making Amber, I would say

627
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 4: even a better way to look at that is before

628
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 4: you would say because I don't love the idea of

629
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 4: changing the actual person in season. I don't think good

630
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 4: things typically come from that. What I would say might

631
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 4: be a better option is if I were, if I

632
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 4: were the head coach, maybe I would go to him,

633
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 4: and I would say, look, man, I'm not saying the

634
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 4: scheme don't work. I'm saying the scheme isn't working with

635
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 4: this set of players. What I need you to do

636
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 4: in the bye week is I need you to come

637
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 4: up with a set of plays. And maybe it's not

638
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 4: a different scheme, but I need you to figure out

639
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 4: the plays in that scheme that best fit these players.

640
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 4: If you keep asking this defensive end to crash down,

641
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,479
Speaker 4: you want your linebackers scrape part to the outside, and

642
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 4: they're not doing it effectively. Do something different. Let the

643
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 4: defensive end stay outside and have outside contained versus having

644
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 4: him crash down. Maybe that's a better way to do it.

645
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 4: I would just say, don't change the say I need

646
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 4: you to flip We've tried it for nine weeks. At

647
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 4: that point, if it ain't working, it ain't working. It's

648
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 4: time to say it ain't working, try something different. That's

649
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 4: where I would be making the big changes is change

650
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 4: change the script. Like whatever you're doing is not working.

651
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 4: You need to flip the script and do something very

652
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 4: different that these players actually can execute, because right now

653
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 4: you're not gonna get new linebackers Overstone's coming back but

654
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 4: you're not gonna change all the linebackers, so you may

655
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 4: want to ask them to do something different because what

656
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 4: you're asking them, they're just not capable of doing this.

657
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Speaker 2: It's a sad part.

658
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Speaker 5: Coach gonna look at you and be like, Coach, I

659
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 5: don't have plays that ask the ends to crash. They

660
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 5: supposed to be outside. He just crash anyway.

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Speaker 4: Well, I will tell you this if that's the case,

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Speaker 4: because that was my dilemma earlier in the week when

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Speaker 4: I was saying that as you said, like seven eight plays,

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Speaker 4: the same thing was happening. If you got a player

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Speaker 4: that on seven or eight plays, well, is doing something

666
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Speaker 4: that you've told him specifically don't do this? Why is

667
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Speaker 4: he still playing? And that's what makes me think this

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Speaker 4: is not him just freelancing. If he's doing it. And

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Speaker 4: by the way, this is the first game we've seen

670
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Speaker 4: this throughout the year, because I remember mentioning it to

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Speaker 4: Nick this last game as we were sitting in the

672
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Speaker 4: press box, I was like, have you noticed every time

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Speaker 4: to get in goshed like Sam's crashing hard to the inside.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, he cannot be doing this over all these

675
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Speaker 4: weeks just on his own and nobody has said Sam.

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Speaker 4: If you continue to do this, you won't be playing.

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Speaker 5: Sam got mad on the internet. But we ain't gonna

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Speaker 5: tell no lies about your brother. If you get cracked,

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Speaker 5: the technique is to cross face because if they cracking you,

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Speaker 5: they run on the other side of that crack. Ain't

681
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Speaker 5: nothing wrong with getting cracked because sometimes you don't see

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Speaker 5: the crack. Donvinezerak, who does it real well, if you

683
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Speaker 5: crack him, he'll instantly cross face and he'll get back

684
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Speaker 5: in the fight. You can't get cracked all the way

685
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Speaker 5: to the other sea gap. I ain't made him no

686
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Speaker 5: lives about nobody. I could do a film session me

687
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Speaker 5: and ambar Win an Emmy on it. I ain't lyning

688
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Speaker 5: about nobody. It's the small technical things. You can't run

689
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Speaker 5: around with your eyes closed. You gotta find the ball

690
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Speaker 5: carry Sometimes it looked like your edge rush are running

691
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Speaker 5: around with their eyes closed, or run down the middle

692
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Speaker 5: people with their eyes closed.

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Speaker 2: You can't win like that.

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Speaker 8: Here's my last hot take. I know we got to

695
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Speaker 8: go to break though, but.

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Speaker 2: Oh trust me, Darren, I go.

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Speaker 8: This is everything that everybody's saying is absolutely true. But

698
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Speaker 8: there's a bigger, fundamental problem. Was that it's the interview

699
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Speaker 8: process of hiring your coaches is really well, sure, and

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Speaker 8: I say this in this way, and it's unfortunate the

701
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Speaker 8: last three years you've had three different coordinators. We've talked

702
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Speaker 8: about that, We've talked about the style of players, you

703
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Speaker 8: have the players that are currently on the roster and stuff.

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Speaker 8: But if you have a team that is really good

705
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Speaker 8: in one specific area or is built in one specific area,

706
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Speaker 8: and you feel like, listen, we can't completely overhaul the

707
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Speaker 8: team just for this coach. It's about the hiring of

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Speaker 8: the coach. It's about the process of knowing when you're

709
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Speaker 8: going to hire. Yeah, they have familiarity to the front office.

710
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Speaker 8: They have familiarity with Matti Refluce. Matti Refluse is a

711
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Speaker 8: good coordinator. He has been in the past. The problem is, though,

712
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Speaker 8: if you have a team that's been built a certain

713
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Speaker 8: way and then you try to say, Okay, we're going

714
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Speaker 8: to bring this guy in because we have some familiarity

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Speaker 8: with him. And this is what's unfortunate about with Shaddy

716
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Speaker 8: as a first year head coach. You know, maybe he

717
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Speaker 8: had an idea of who he wanted to bring in offensively,

718
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Speaker 8: but maybe he didn't have an idea what he wanted

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Speaker 8: to do defensively, and maybe he didn't have enough time

720
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Speaker 8: to really think about it, but.

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Speaker 2: Clayton Adams was one of the when.

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Speaker 8: You when you start to think about like, okay, well

723
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Speaker 8: we have familiarity with Matti Eberflus as a coach, Well,

724
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Speaker 8: what's his scheme, what does he like to do, how

725
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Speaker 8: does he like to play? Well, let's look at the

726
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Speaker 8: next thing. Is our team built in a way currently

727
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Speaker 8: to play that type of.

728
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Speaker 2: Scheme where the defensive I think.

729
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Speaker 8: That I think that you have to It's it's really

730
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Speaker 8: it's bigger than that. It's bigger than guys coming down

731
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Speaker 8: and run a linebacker scraping and all that. You have

732
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Speaker 8: a team that was built a certain way for certain coaches.

733
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Speaker 8: It's not built for this current coordinator to be that way.

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Speaker 8: And that's why when Derek has to ask the head

735
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Speaker 8: coach to walk in there and say, hey, come up

736
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Speaker 8: with three things. Come up with three things, the coordinator

737
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Speaker 8: look at him and say like, hey, I've been doing

738
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Speaker 8: this a long time.

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Speaker 4: You know if we.

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Speaker 8: Had players that could do this, That's that's the biggest

741
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Speaker 8: disconnect to me that if you want to, if you

742
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Speaker 8: want to talk about Dallas Cowboys defensive football issues, it's

743
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Speaker 8: you have players that don't fit with this cord.

744
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Speaker 7: Well, does that fall under the experience of like, again,

745
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Speaker 7: remembering this as far as year year one, you've had a.

746
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Speaker 8: Lot of injuries though too, they've had a lot of injuries,

747
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Speaker 8: but they but you have a team that you know,

748
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Speaker 8: you had a team that was built with that. You

749
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Speaker 8: had Dan Quinn players, you got Mike Zimber players. You've

750
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Speaker 8: got players, and now you've got a scheme in because

751
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Speaker 8: you went and hired a coach. I think because you

752
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Speaker 8: had a first year head coach. You had a guy

753
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Speaker 8: that probably didn't have a whole lot of time putting

754
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Speaker 8: together a staff. And so to me, that's the number

755
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Speaker 8: one fundamental issue right now you have players that are

756
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Speaker 8: built to play a different way and until you get

757
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Speaker 8: players that play but then.

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Speaker 4: Again, what are we gonna do?

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Speaker 8: Oh, we're all getting mad at the coordinator and rightfully, so, okay,

760
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Speaker 8: now we get rid of the coordinator. Okay, now that's

761
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Speaker 8: the fourth coordinator that we're gonna have. And do we

762
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Speaker 8: have players that are built for how it's his scheme? See,

763
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Speaker 8: this is where the attention to detail when it comes

764
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Speaker 8: to hiring coaches is so important because you look at

765
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Speaker 8: teams like the Ravens and others that when they lose

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Speaker 8: a coach, they have the next one ready that knows

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Speaker 8: the scheme and knows how to play the scheme and

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Speaker 8: knows the players. They have somebody ready to go. You

769
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Speaker 8: don't have that luxury here right now, and I think

770
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Speaker 8: you're paying for it.

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Speaker 4: All right, We're gonna take our final break. Only come back.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back. It is the final segment of the break

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Speaker 4: gonna take some phone calls here in the final segment,

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Speaker 4: we got a call from Brian out in Kansas City. Brian,

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Speaker 4: what up?

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Speaker 13: Good morning ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 2: What's that big?

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Speaker 4: Don't hey?

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Speaker 13: So my question is really a from a pro scouting

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Speaker 13: point of view, and I'm not against moving Lea Fou

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Speaker 13: to Begreen dot guy, but from the outside, is it

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Speaker 13: realistic in the middle of the season to bring in

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Speaker 13: a Mike linebacker, give him the green dot and say, hey, Tiger,

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Speaker 13: go get them. You know, I'm just curious, and I'm

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Speaker 13: not talking about the oddball guy like Luke Kinkley or

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Speaker 13: a Sean Lee. We know that you give that guy

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Speaker 13: two weeks, you'll have the whole defense figured out and

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Speaker 13: be teaching everybody else. But from a pro scouting point

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Speaker 13: of view, is it realistic for most people to bring

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Speaker 13: him in mid season? Or is edge defender? Are we

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Speaker 13: kind of boxed into edge defenders kind of the only

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Speaker 13: thing you can do at this point in the season.

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Speaker 13: And I'll hang up and listen.

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Speaker 7: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic question, man.

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Speaker 5: I think that's that's something that you have to think about,

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Speaker 5: Like these Mike linebackers are really as good as they

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Speaker 5: know what's happening. Well, boy, this is the rare situation

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Speaker 5: of the Cowboys that you have yourself in. It's just

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Speaker 5: like the linebackers you have right now, just all over

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Speaker 5: the place. So if you have a linebacker that he

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Speaker 5: may not know everything about this system, but he's simply

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Speaker 5: just not just not all over the place, and you know,

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Speaker 5: maybe he can just read keys a little bit better.

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Speaker 5: You're just trying to get a little better. And lucky

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Speaker 5: for us it's still October now. Then maybe he'll know

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Speaker 5: the system by November December when you're really trying to

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Speaker 5: make this run.

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Speaker 8: Yeah. I think there's certain linebackers and I mean, and

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Speaker 8: I know it probably is not against I mean, we

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Speaker 8: saw Roquan Smith. Did you traded him from the Bears?

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Speaker 8: And I know Roquan Smith is is a is a

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Speaker 8: rare player that way, But I think there's some linebackers

880
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 8: that you could absolutely bring in here and and and

881
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 8: and they can make a difference right off the jump.

882
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 8: I know, uh, we can't really talk about names because

883
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 8: they're still on. But there's there's a couple that I've

884
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 8: looked at that I know, uh that if they were

885
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 8: given it, if you traded something for them and brought

886
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 8: them in, I think you can immediately plug them in

887
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,240
Speaker 8: and there and they're not named Roquan Smith or anything

888
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 8: like that.

889
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 5: Plush Cover three at the Dallas Cowboys is just like

890
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 5: Cover three at nat Just High School.

891
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 4: You want to expound on that, Uh.

892
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 5: Cover three is basically uh to do was in the

893
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 5: flat and three dudes deep. However you decide to work

894
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 5: that out. It could be two corners and one free deep.

895
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 5: It could be a free and a strong and a

896
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 5: corner deep. As long as it is they got configuration,

897
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 5: you got it, and two guys in the flat got

898
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 5: had that good stuff.

899
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 4: Let's get a call from Carmine in New Jersey.

900
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 3: What's up, Hey, how you doing? I got I have

901
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,720
Speaker 3: a quick question, but I got to tell a story

902
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 3: real fast for three seconds.

903
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 5: Well got two seconds, all.

904
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 3: Right, So WoT this is out for you. I'm actually

905
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 3: in New Jersey and I just wanted to let you

906
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 3: know in my meetings. When we have a meeting, I

907
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 3: start out by saying, Man, yes, serious, So just for

908
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 3: the note of it, the whole New Jersey says man.

909
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 2: Now that's all your brother, what you got for?

910
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, all right. My question is, Brian, you just

911
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 3: said a couple of seconds ago about the player personnel,

912
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 3: which I agree, But don't you think good coach would

913
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 3: adapt to the coaching style of the players.

914
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 8: Well, I think that's what I'm saying. These coaches are

915
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 8: a lot of them. I know Mike Zimmer, Bill Parcells

916
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 8: allowed him to coach this four to three defense for

917
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 8: Bill's first year and then but he told Mike, he goes,

918
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 8: if you're still going to stay around, you're gonna have

919
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 8: to learn how to coach at three four, And Mike

920
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 8: did to the to Mike's credit, and Mike learned that way.

921
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 8: But I think a lot of it has to do

922
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 8: when you're when you're a brand new coach on a staff. Now,

923
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 8: Matt's been around a long time and every and Matt

924
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 8: has his ways of coaching three coaching. I think there's things. Yeah,

925
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 8: you have to absolutely adapt, but this mean this to

926
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 8: me seems like they haven't adapted well. Enough, and if

927
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 8: there's not a willingness to do that, then Matt was

928
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 8: the wrong hire. You have to have that willingness to

929
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 8: be able to adapt. But to me, this just goes

930
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 8: back to three coordinators in three years. I think you're

931
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 8: asking a lot of I think you're asking a lot

932
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 8: of the coordinator. I think you're asking a lot of

933
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 8: the players. But again, the front off is like, you know,

934
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 8: if we keep having turnovers at coordinator, doesn't it doesn't it?

935
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 8: I think they learned their lesson. Make sure that you

936
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 8: have the coordinator that can can currently coach the style

937
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 8: of play that your players are good at. That takes

938
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,919
Speaker 8: a lot of that. Well, you need to adapt. That's

939
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,919
Speaker 8: that's a big thing for a coach that's been doing

940
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 8: this for a long time.

941
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 4: Well, you know one of the things that I would

942
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 4: think about Brian there you mentioned Zimmer. I think when

943
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 4: you hire an experienced and a really good defensive coordinator,

944
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 4: I think there is an expectation that that guy can

945
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 4: adapt to the players that they have. Because if you

946
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 4: look at Zimmer last year, it didn't start off Rosie,

947
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 4: he said he wish he would have done to his

948
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 4: own way. He said, he goes I wish I would have.

949
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 8: Done what I wanted to do earlier instead of try

950
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 8: and play to the strengths.

951
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 4: What I got. But I guess my point though, is

952
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 4: with an experienced defensive coordinator, whatever you start off doing,

953
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 4: I think there's an expectation that you have the ability

954
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 4: to be able to adapt as the season wears on

955
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 4: to whatever you need to do, whether that is do

956
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 4: more of this, more of that, more of that, your experience,

957
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,720
Speaker 4: you're good at it, figure it out. That's where again

958
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 4: I get back to that's where I would challenge if

959
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 4: I'm the head coach, I would can't challenge ibra Flus

960
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 4: at this point to say it's not working. What you're saying,

961
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,919
Speaker 4: what you're wanting them to do is not working. Now

962
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 4: it's time for you to figure out how to adapt.

963
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 4: And I think that's where that's the difference between hiring

964
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 4: a guy who's had success in the NFL as a

965
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 4: defensive coordinator and has been a good defensive coordinator and

966
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 4: a guy that's the first time defensive coordinator. You may

967
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 4: have had that faith in them to be able to adapt.

968
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 4: I would suggest you should be able to have that

969
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 4: kind of faith in an experienced, high quality defensive coordinator,

970
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 4: and that's where I would challenge him to do that well.

971
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Speaker 7: Also, when you talk about the players, and I know

972
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 7: a lot of people want to discuss, oh, well, you

973
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 7: don't have the talent, you don't have the talent on

974
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 7: the field, And to that, I would say, there are

975
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 7: players are our talent and we've mentioned it here before,

976
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 7: we've seen them play at a higher level. But at

977
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 7: the same time, I find it very hard to believe

978
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 7: that even with backup players, that they're unable to play

979
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,720
Speaker 7: at a certain level. I mean, there's a reason why

980
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 7: you're in the NFL backup or not backup. You're in

981
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 7: here because you're trusted to have the abilities or capabilities

982
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,439
Speaker 7: for you to be able to do something at least

983
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 7: I'm not saying be groundbreaking and start, you know, getting

984
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 7: interceptions every time, turnovers and all that, but at least

985
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,439
Speaker 7: to be able to cover a guy, be close enough

986
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 7: nowhere to go know what's happening. The amount of time

987
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 7: we're seeing games and that someone is completely open, it's

988
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 7: like what in the world, Like, what is happening? What

989
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 7: is happening? So I think there's something to be said

990
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 7: with the lack of communication and people knowing exactly where

991
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 7: they should be and who's doing what, who's doing what

992
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 7: job and all that. So all of that to me

993
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 7: personally comes down to the leader in that room.

994
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Speaker 4: All Right, we appreciate you guys, join us. We go

995
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Speaker 4: back tomorrow. We don't that was only who we had

996
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,439
Speaker 4: for now. I'm sure if we stayed on the line

997
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 4: we might get some more. That's it. That's it. That's

998
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Speaker 4: a wrap. We'll be back tomorrow. We'll jump in into

999
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Speaker 4: the Cardinals and get on their offense versus the Dallas defense.

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Speaker 4: Till then, for Vach Lombardi blind brought us Narregarci. I'm

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Speaker 4: Derek Eaglton. This has been The Break live on Dallas

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