WEBVTT - Hangin' With The 'Boys: Stephen Jones Returns 0:00:04.120 --> 0:00:06.680 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:19.240 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club flowing out of the backfields, 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:24.640 flooding down the sightlines. He's hanging with the Boys broadcasting 0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:29.040 line from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star in Frisco. 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:36.640 Now your host, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, and Shannon Gross. Well, 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:39.760 we're a man down today. Nate had to go take 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:42.760 care of some business. But we are joined by a 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:47.240 very special guest, Rob Phillips. Just kidding, Rob is filling 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:48.960 in for Nate, but just a guest. We got a 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:51.279 special guest. We have a very special guest, and we'll 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:53.519 get right to it. We are joined on the show 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:56.959 by Steven Jones. How are you today, Steven? Hey, I'm 0:00:57.000 --> 0:01:00.200 doing great, guys, good to be on and uh like 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:02.760 I'm not holding up this seat. Well I'm in Nate seat. 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:08.959 It's hard to feel. Nate stretched it a little bit. 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:13.200 We'll appreciate you joining us. What's what's a day like 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:15.679 around OTAs look like for you? What what do you 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:17.959 do on a OTA day? Well? Uh, you know, you're 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:19.520 just out there a little bit, trying to get a 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:23.280 little glimpse of what these guys are looking like you know, 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:25.520 right now, Will and I did a quick count. I 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:27.959 think we've got ninety players out there. In forty five 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:31.000 of them are new first time around. So there's a 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:34.160 lot to look at and certainly, you know, you enjoy 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:36.520 the fruits of the work. I mean, we're obviously very 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:40.280 optimistic about what we've done with this team, the pieces 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:44.440 we've added. Uh, certainly missing a lot of familiar faces 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:47.280 out there when you think about Tony and Dez and 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:49.920 and Jason. But at the same time, it's exciting because 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:52.880 we do have so many new faces, not only players, 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:56.640 but coaches and uh, certainly I think the new coaches 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:59.440 along with the guys who've been here a while or 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:03.280 certainly looking forward to the challenge and working with these 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:05.960 guys who are really wanting to step step their play 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:09.000 up and step up. And obviously in a lot of 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:11.200 cases here, if we're gonna be looking for some players 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:15.520 to step into some shoes that legends, real legends of 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:18.120 the Dallas Cowboys, Uh, they're gonna have to step up 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:22.400 and fill those type of shoes. But it's an exciting time. Uh, 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:25.320 it's a it's nervousness, but it's a good, nervous and 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:28.359 so uh uh, you know, you you step out there 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:31.040 and you take a look at it now, albeit you're 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:34.359 looking at them in shorts and helmets and it's not, 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:37.080 as we call it, real football yet. I mean, they're 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:41.400 they're learning, they're learning systems, they're learning some of the 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:43.800 techniques that we expect from them, but you're not seeing 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:46.400 real football yet. And so we really won't know what 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:48.440 we got our hands on until you put on the 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:51.720 pads there and Oxnard for the first time, and uh 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:54.200 start to play some of those preseason games. You'll get 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:57.160 a lot better feel for what some of these guys 0:02:57.200 --> 0:03:00.840 can do. Speaking about Oxnard, real quick, y'all release the 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:04.440 dates of camp. I don't think we officially have. We're 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:08.280 still working on our schedule. You know. Sometimes you know, 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:10.400 you don't you do things. You might start a day 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:12.800 or two here for the start of it, do a 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:16.680 little let people get acclimated, and then head out. I 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:18.840 know we've done that before, but I think Jason's trying 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:21.200 to come up with his final recommendation for us in 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:25.720 terms of how he'd like to proceed with training camp. Okay, 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:29.440 it seems like the youngest team we've had I haven't 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:30.920 done the math on the age, but it seems like 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:34.720 such a young team this year. Is that create any concerns? 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:37.560 Does that change anything of how the seasons approached it 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:40.720 all and what's how the preparation comes. Well, I think 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:42.800 it's a good mix. You know, you look at that 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:45.480 offensive line, they're certainly seasoned. They're one of the best 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:49.440 in the NFL. Certainly that's what you want. Then you 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:51.760 look at what you'd call young guys and Dak and 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:54.560 Zeke and you know, I read a deal the other 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:57.400 day where they're two of the type MVP candidates in 0:03:57.440 --> 0:04:00.840 the NFL, and so they certainly I don't look at 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:04.160 them necessarily as a young guys anymore because they've been 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:08.000 around the block. Uh, certainly that receiving corps albeit, uh 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:11.400 there's no death, there's you've got guys like Cole Beasley 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:14.400 and Terrence Williams and uh, you know that crew that 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:17.440 have done some good things for us. But that's probably 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:19.960 one of the greener groups. And then anytime you lose 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:23.560 a Jason Witten, Uh, certainly that's a green group. But 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:28.960 certainly we think probably U are more excited about the 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:32.400 group than most because you know, we see some good 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:35.120 skilled players there. And now there's no high draft picks there. 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:38.200 There's you know, there's no Jason Witten, so we understand that. 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:41.080 And then defensively, you mix Sean Lee and with that 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:43.840 young group of linebackers. I think he's got that covered 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:47.080 deal all with that group of defensive lineman. And then 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:51.320 you mix in that secondary back there with Byron and 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:54.080 uh and then it gets young. But it's exciting to 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:56.920 think of the players that we've added back there and 0:04:57.320 --> 0:05:00.640 feel good that they're gonna make a difference. I want 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:03.120 to ask you about the receiver position, Stephen. You mentioned 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:06.960 I think you mentioned the draft. There is no Atlanta 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:09.880 type Julio Jones. Guy's gonna get your hunry catches. And again, 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:12.279 the offense isn't built like that You've got. It's a 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:15.560 Zeke run first offense. But how do you size up 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:18.599 what you've done at receiver and knowing that Dak's the 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:20.960 type of guy that likes to hit the open guy anyway, 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:22.680 He's not going to force things, how do you how 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:24.680 do you think that position stacks up? Well? I think 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:27.200 you're spot on. I think you know you'd probably be 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:30.200 way too optimistic to think we've got a true number 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:32.840 one receiver as we sit here today. Hopefully you know, 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:36.240 maybe that changes, who knows, But I will say this, 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:38.520 when we sat down in the off season to look 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:42.200 to go back to that term, Dac friendly what was 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:46.400 in his best interest. I think these moves could end 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:50.000 up making dact better because I think he's a quarterback. 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:54.200 He's very cerebral. He certainly understands the system, he works 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:56.800 at it, and he likes to work through his progressions 0:05:56.920 --> 0:05:59.160 and that's hard to find in quarterbacks. A lot of 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:02.280 them are good going first, progression, second, and then things 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:05.920 get blurry. For him, he likes to go first, second, third, fourth, 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:09.440 and not feel any pressure to have to force the ball. 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:11.560 And I think with this group of receivers and tight 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:14.560 ends now and that's what made him great. Don't get 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:18.440 me wrong. Between Doz and Jason, certainly there's always pressure 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:21.560 to get the ball to players like that and sometimes 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:25.760 even when it's not necessarily the the read. And I think, now, Dak, 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:28.560 can you know, not feel any pressure, work through this 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:31.080 progressions and get the ball. I you know, I could 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:35.680 easily listening to Scott and Jason see games where you 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:39.320 know he eight different people touch the ball, you know, 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:42.960 catch footballs and and so I think that's what we, 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:45.320 you know, are going to look forward to for right now. 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:48.080 I think a lot of teams get it done. There's 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:50.120 good teams that get it done that way without the 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:54.240 dominant Julio Jones does Bryant type of receiver, and we 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:57.520 feel confident and that we can be very successful moving 0:06:57.560 --> 0:07:01.880 the ball with this offensive line Zeke and then really 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:05.560 letting Dakh just run the offense. So you think that 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:08.640 he's coming off a down years injured, now he's had 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:11.640 some off the field stuff going on, Can Terrence still 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:15.000 be is He's still gonna be counting on as he's well, 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:17.200 he's got to go to work. I mean, there's no question, 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:20.360 and that's not his character. H In my opinion, I 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:23.160 think Terrence is a you know, top top end guy. 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:26.560 I think obviously, you know, from what you see there, 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:29.720 probably made some bad decisions that night, but uh, you know, 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:32.679 nobody's perfect. But if you look at Terence's full body 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:35.120 of work, I think Terence is a good person. He's 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:38.600 gonna work hard. But you know, we brought several receivers in. 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:43.480 We lost Dez and but we brought in obviously drafted 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:47.040 u Gallop and then you turn around and uh, you know, 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:50.560 paid some decent money, uh to Deante and to Hearns, 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:54.240 and so it's gonna be competitive. And anyone who thinks 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:56.080 they're just going to walk out there and something's gonna 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:59.560 be given to him, you know, they got another thing 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:02.520 coming signed. Jay's a great, great receiver coach. We think 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:05.000 he's one of the best in the NFL, and he 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:07.360 wanted it to be very competitive, and that's what we're 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:10.080 going to have a competitive situation to make this roster 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:12.880 at receiver. When you're out there watching practice, are you 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:16.200 watching the coaches some as much as the players at times, 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:19.400 just to kind of see Jerry's mentioned your new ideas 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:21.120 new you know, just it's a new group. As much 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:24.040 as there's some change on the roster. Well, I've probably 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:26.240 the one, you know, I hate to say you've enjoyed. 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:28.360 You know, you enjoy watching one go more than other. 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:31.960 But obviously Chris Frossard's bringing some energy out there. Reminds 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:34.200 me a little bit of Jerome Henderson. He's in his cleats. 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:37.160 I think he still thinks he played dB. I know 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:40.520 Jerome did so, but he brings a lot of energy, 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:45.280 certainly very vocal, not unlike Ride, and certainly have enjoyed 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:49.000 watching him coach these young defensive backs and he looks 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:51.400 forward to it. He loves the talent and the group. 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:55.079 If you take obviously the draft that we had last year, 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:58.880 where you take four defensive backs, it's a you know, 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:02.720 certainly a young group, but a group that he's certainly 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:04.800 fired up to work with. I know he said personally 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:09.400 they had Shadobe as their guy to pick right behind 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:11.920 us they're in Seattle, that they were going to pick him. 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:17.240 So he loved Shadobe coming out and certainly loves what 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:21.840 Byron represents with his length and moving him back to corner. Obviously, 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:23.960 he was a big part of that move, wanting to 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:27.520 move him back to being that long corner. And so 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:29.880 we're excited about what's going to go on back there. 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:32.680 But I do find myself watching both. You watch watch 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:34.920 those coaches that are a course Ride, you can't ever 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:38.000 miss Ride. Yeah, he's gonna give you a laugh. Ever 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:40.520 practice in terms of getting in those guys and work 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:42.920 at them. And it's always interesting when you bring in 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:46.920 these young defensive linemen because boy, their eyes are like holy, 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:50.719 what did I get myself into. I'm not so sure 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:52.839 some of the reasons we lose some of these guys, 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:55.120 like a McClean. As he went to bed, he was 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:57.320 fired up about coming back to Dallas, and then he 0:09:57.320 --> 0:10:00.679 went to sleep that night said pod drills riding and 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:06.679 I think I'll go to Atlanta. Well, we know you 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:08.600 got to get out of here. I have one question 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:11.280 that's that's kind of off the field, related with with 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:13.599 Father's Day coming up here in a week and a 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:17.720 half or so, what is the Jones household like around 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:20.480 Father's Day? I mean, your dad's you know, done some 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:23.200 really cool stuff in his life. He's got everything. Do 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:25.920 y'all just do you still buy gifts? Do you just 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:28.640 hate out? What? What's that like? Yeah, well we do. 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:31.840 And uh, it's a special day obviously. I've been so 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:36.280 blessed to have a wonderful father who's I've been blessed 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:39.079 not only to what he was as a father figure 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:40.840 when I was growing up, but also to be able 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:44.280 to work side by side with him my entire life. So, uh, 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:47.120 you know, so special, and he's given so much as 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:50.600 a father, not only to me, but my brother and sister. Uh, 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:52.880 you know a lot of people you know find that 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:54.839 hard to believe that you know, a guy like that 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:57.880 has uh spent just as much time being a great father, 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:01.400 and that is what he is. He's all about family. Certainly, 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:05.640 I'm blessed to have four wonderful children. The three daughters 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:07.679 that have done so well, and my son will get 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:11.160 to hopefully all spend time together. I'll get to spend 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:13.120 a little time with my father and then I'll get 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:16.520 to spend some time with my kids. And Uh, I 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:19.720 joke a little bit that I'm that guy. I've got 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:22.719 the real famous father that I've known forever. So I 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:25.760 got his suitcase in my left hand. And little did 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:28.080 I know, though i'd have a son, that they were 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:30.280 gonna walk right by me in Hyland Park and ask 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:35.160 for his autographs. So I've got and I never thought 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:38.520 I'd love ever minute of it. So it's great, uh 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:43.000 being a father, and then obviously being so fortunate to 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:46.880 have a father, and even further than that, two wonderful 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:52.280 grandfathers that my father loved. H two had such a 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:55.640 special influence on my life, both my grandfathers as well 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:59.319 as my father's. So it's a it's a great day. 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We 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:03.560 kind of glossed over this because we were trying to 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:06.240 get to Stevens so fast because he only had ten 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:08.040 minutes to spend with us. I think we actually held 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:12.520 him longer than that. But uh, Rob Phillips, the great 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:14.800 Rob Phillips, I don't believe if you ever been on 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:16.880 this show. I used to co host the show and 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:19.840 it was called something else. Yeah, not hanging with the Balls. 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:22.160 Well you hadn't been on since we changed the format. Huh, 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:24.920 I don't think so. No, But Nate, Nate's got it covered. 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:28.800 You know. Well, we appreciate you filling him for him. Thanks, 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:31.040 of course, thanks for coming on. Thanks so good to 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:34.480 you do. Look, of course, you know we asked him. 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:37.960 We were asked him last minute. Hey, you know, Steven's 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:40.200 gonna we are actually gonna cancel the show today because 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:42.960 Nate was gone. We were like, hey, we all got 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:45.160 a lot going on, and Kurt, don't you have a 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:47.960 website to build or something something like that. Yeah, something's 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:50.840 been working on that a little bit. And uh, Kurt 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:53.720 was so great of getting Steven on. He was like, hey, 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:56.600 we've we've got Steven. We warned him, like, well, hell yeah, 0:14:56.800 --> 0:15:00.520 let's go. Man, what time let's do it? So ran 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:02.760 over and asked Rob. I said, hey, we need a 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:06.240 third We're having the show today. Steven's on. So he 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:08.440 goes and changes, goes home and drives all the way 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:11.960 across Dallas change his clothes just for us, just for 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:15.960 Steven for it, leaves us hanging in. Yeah this these 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:19.760 get up. Yeah, y'all look terrible. That's that's okay. Problems No, no, no, 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:22.640 I got I got TV just outside, which I don't 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:24.080 know why they told me to wear a sport coat. 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:26.280 I guess I'd look so terrible when you're not you're 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:29.160 not hot enough out there? Apparently apparently not. Apparently. No, 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:31.120 we appreciate. We know you're busy, so thank you for 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:33.080 coming home anytime. What are you working on? What are 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:35.160 you working on these days? Ah? Well, we're doing some 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:39.560 Deep Blue documentaries that will come out. Kurt's working on 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:41.600 some as well. Can we talk about any of those? 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:44.360 What the subject? I'm actually going to interview Cliff Harris 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:48.480 today for nice several several documentaries. And you just interviewed 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:51.840 a couple of people, right. Um. We interviewed Calvin Hill 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:54.360 yesterday and We've had a few others down the road, 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:57.080 So yeah, we've got kind of got four or five 0:15:57.160 --> 0:15:59.200 we're kind of in the works here that I'm helping 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:01.800 out with. What can we talk about what they are? Uh, 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:04.120 we're working on one about Dwayne Thomas, who was the 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:10.560 kind of mercurial running back in seventy seventy one, fascinating individual, 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:15.240 um doing stuffing on Tony Dorset. Obviously everybody knows his 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:18.440 Hall of Fame career. One of my favorites. Growing Yeah, yeah, 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:22.440 it's him in my bedroom many many times, knocking pillows 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:29.080 down and yeah, crossing the end zone, yeah, the scoreroom. Yeah, 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:31.600 it's he's interesting and that's why we're doing the stories 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:33.720 that in our generation he was the man. You know, 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:36.320 he was second and rushing i think when retired, but 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:38.520 today he's sort of an afterthought. He's yeah, I mean, 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:40.600 it's all in it, and so we're helping to kind 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:44.200 of tell his story. And then um Percy Harward. It's 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:46.600 one I've talked about before. I've been beating people down 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:48.640 with for I don't know how many years. We're fighting 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:51.400 getting that one going, and uh, what else we got 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:53.360 going on? I think Bob Bliley we're gonna work on 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:56.800 one on on that so we got several from Crawford. 0:16:56.800 --> 0:17:01.400 Tyron Crawford is should be an unbelievable one from what 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:03.960 I've heard that the interviews that have been conducted. So 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:07.360 that's also going on. I'm not involved with that one. 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:10.400 So it's fun though. It's I think Rob can say 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:12.320 the same thing. It's fun talking to these guys and 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:17.160 putting these stories together. Yeah, we're working on Bill Parcels 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:20.160 and the oh three season, his first season in Dallas, 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:24.280 shaking things up, bringing some Jersey down to Texas and 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:27.520 changing the whole culture around here. Was that the Quincy year? 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:30.639 It was Quincy the next year? Quincy was a third 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:33.280 year guy at that point. But when did they cut 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:36.520 him at camp with the next summer four? Yeah? Oh 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:39.760 three was his best season. You know, Bill kind of 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:42.880 molded him and he was pretty efficient that year, and 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:44.679 you know that was That's part of the story, is 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:46.920 the talent level that they had was not very good. 0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:49.359 It was it was bad actually overall on paper, they 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:52.199 didn't do Campo any favors. No, No, the cupboard was 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:55.080 pretty bare and uh yeah, just the culture change and 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:57.760 obviously he was gold when he was here. Those thirty 0:17:57.760 --> 0:18:01.359 minute press conferences were musty television, the opposite of what 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:04.280 we have now. I like Jason Garretts press conference, I 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:06.560 really do. But I mean there's a real those are 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:10.600 carried live because of Bill Parcels. Really he started people 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:12.399 don't realize and are y'all tell him that you may 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:16.000 be outlining this in the documentary, but he changed a 0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:19.720 lot of things that carried over through this, like shutting 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:23.320 down practice except for certain times and things like that. 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:25.840 That is that a lot of that going into this documentary. Yeah, 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:28.439 I mean there's still things that still. I mean, Stephen 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:30.480 Jones was just here and every now and then I'll 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:33.560 hear him give a Parcels is m you know in 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:36.960 an interview two sides of that pancake or something like that. 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:40.240 You know, his impact is still here and he really 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:43.080 he set up the Cowboys forced success with some of 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:46.359 the guys he found. Obviously went in Romo, but you 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:48.960 know they didn't get to the super Bowl. But but 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:51.600 the culture change and the path they got on the 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:54.280 right path when he was here, I've always wondered my 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:58.480 favorite part of the Garrett press conference is actually the 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:00.600 walk off after where it's off came. He kind of 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:02.440 talks to the reporters and it's a little a little 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:05.520 more relaxed and um, you know you can learn some 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:08.800 kind of background stuff. But what was Purcell's But did 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:10.320 he do that same type of thing? And what were 0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:12.480 they like? I can't remember if he had walk offs 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:14.640 or not. I don't I don't think he did very 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:18.080 all the time. Yea. The best thing about Bill was 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:20.240 he would go he would go on a topic. It 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:22.919 could be horse racing, it could be anything, and you 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:24.880 could find some kind of tie in either to your 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:27.800 life or to football. But there was also some genius 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:31.880 behind that because maybe, as Jock Taylor told me, maybe 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:33.760 the locker room opens fifteen minutes late and you got 0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:35.720 less time to bother his players. You know, he kind 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:39.000 of wanted to be he wanted to be the Yeah, 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:41.320 he was a genius at a kind of you know, 0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:43.840 playing the media at times, selling a story he wanted 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:47.080 to sell and uh and really being the only disseminator 0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:50.119 of information. Don't talk to my assistants, don't talk to 0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:52.159 the trainers. You come to me and I'll tell you 0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:53.679 if I feel like it, I'll tell you what's up 0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:56.240 with injuries? Or whatever. So have you interviewed him yet 0:19:56.240 --> 0:19:59.639 for that? Yeah? Yeah, Kent and uh and Scott Purcell 0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:04.080 and I down there last month doing well. He's seventy five. 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:08.840 He raises horses, now, that's what race horses are raising him, 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:10.800 I know. But he the race horses or you know, 0:20:10.880 --> 0:20:13.000 I think I think so. I think so he's big 0:20:13.040 --> 0:20:16.640 into horse racing, right, Oh, he loves it. He loves it. Um. So, yeah, 0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:19.840 he's doing he's doing well. He's tan, he's looking good golf. 0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:21.119 I think he was on his way to play some 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:23.880 golf after has he has he mellowed and chilled out 0:20:23.880 --> 0:20:26.160 and he's or the same life. He was great. Yeah, 0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:28.480 he was great. Now he he might have scared me 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:30.479 a couple of times when I was twenty two, just 0:20:30.560 --> 0:20:32.359