1
00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,680
Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

2
00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:19,240
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club flowing out of the backfields,

3
00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:24,640
Speaker 1: flooding down the sightlines. He's hanging with the Boys broadcasting

4
00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:29,040
Speaker 1: line from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star in Frisco.

5
00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:36,640
Speaker 1: Now your host, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, and Shannon Gross. Well,

6
00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,760
Speaker 1: we're a man down today. Nate had to go take

7
00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,760
Speaker 1: care of some business. But we are joined by a

8
00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:47,240
Speaker 1: very special guest, Rob Phillips. Just kidding, Rob is filling

9
00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:48,960
Speaker 1: in for Nate, but just a guest. We got a

10
00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,279
Speaker 1: special guest. We have a very special guest, and we'll

11
00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,519
Speaker 1: get right to it. We are joined on the show

12
00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,959
Speaker 1: by Steven Jones. How are you today, Steven? Hey, I'm

13
00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,200
Speaker 1: doing great, guys, good to be on and uh like

14
00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,760
Speaker 1: I'm not holding up this seat. Well I'm in Nate seat.

15
00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,959
Speaker 1: It's hard to feel. Nate stretched it a little bit.

16
00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,200
Speaker 1: We'll appreciate you joining us. What's what's a day like

17
00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,679
Speaker 1: around OTAs look like for you? What what do you

18
00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,959
Speaker 1: do on a OTA day? Well? Uh, you know, you're

19
00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,520
Speaker 1: just out there a little bit, trying to get a

20
00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,280
Speaker 1: little glimpse of what these guys are looking like you know,

21
00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,520
Speaker 1: right now, Will and I did a quick count. I

22
00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,959
Speaker 1: think we've got ninety players out there. In forty five

23
00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,000
Speaker 1: of them are new first time around. So there's a

24
00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,160
Speaker 1: lot to look at and certainly, you know, you enjoy

25
00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,520
Speaker 1: the fruits of the work. I mean, we're obviously very

26
00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,280
Speaker 1: optimistic about what we've done with this team, the pieces

27
00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:44,440
Speaker 1: we've added. Uh, certainly missing a lot of familiar faces

28
00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,280
Speaker 1: out there when you think about Tony and Dez and

29
00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,920
Speaker 1: and Jason. But at the same time, it's exciting because

30
00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,880
Speaker 1: we do have so many new faces, not only players,

31
00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,640
Speaker 1: but coaches and uh, certainly I think the new coaches

32
00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,440
Speaker 1: along with the guys who've been here a while or

33
00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,280
Speaker 1: certainly looking forward to the challenge and working with these

34
00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,960
Speaker 1: guys who are really wanting to step step their play

35
00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,000
Speaker 1: up and step up. And obviously in a lot of

36
00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,200
Speaker 1: cases here, if we're gonna be looking for some players

37
00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:15,520
Speaker 1: to step into some shoes that legends, real legends of

38
00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,120
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, Uh, they're gonna have to step up

39
00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,400
Speaker 1: and fill those type of shoes. But it's an exciting time. Uh,

40
00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,320
Speaker 1: it's a it's nervousness, but it's a good, nervous and

41
00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,359
Speaker 1: so uh uh, you know, you you step out there

42
00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,040
Speaker 1: and you take a look at it now, albeit you're

43
00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,359
Speaker 1: looking at them in shorts and helmets and it's not,

44
00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,080
Speaker 1: as we call it, real football yet. I mean, they're

45
00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:41,400
Speaker 1: they're learning, they're learning systems, they're learning some of the

46
00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,800
Speaker 1: techniques that we expect from them, but you're not seeing

47
00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,400
Speaker 1: real football yet. And so we really won't know what

48
00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,440
Speaker 1: we got our hands on until you put on the

49
00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,720
Speaker 1: pads there and Oxnard for the first time, and uh

50
00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,200
Speaker 1: start to play some of those preseason games. You'll get

51
00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,160
Speaker 1: a lot better feel for what some of these guys

52
00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,840
Speaker 1: can do. Speaking about Oxnard, real quick, y'all release the

53
00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,440
Speaker 1: dates of camp. I don't think we officially have. We're

54
00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,280
Speaker 1: still working on our schedule. You know. Sometimes you know,

55
00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,400
Speaker 1: you don't you do things. You might start a day

56
00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,800
Speaker 1: or two here for the start of it, do a

57
00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,680
Speaker 1: little let people get acclimated, and then head out. I

58
00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:18,840
Speaker 1: know we've done that before, but I think Jason's trying

59
00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,200
Speaker 1: to come up with his final recommendation for us in

60
00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,720
Speaker 1: terms of how he'd like to proceed with training camp. Okay,

61
00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,440
Speaker 1: it seems like the youngest team we've had I haven't

62
00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:30,920
Speaker 1: done the math on the age, but it seems like

63
00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,720
Speaker 1: such a young team this year. Is that create any concerns?

64
00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,560
Speaker 1: Does that change anything of how the seasons approached it

65
00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,720
Speaker 1: all and what's how the preparation comes. Well, I think

66
00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,800
Speaker 1: it's a good mix. You know, you look at that

67
00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,480
Speaker 1: offensive line, they're certainly seasoned. They're one of the best

68
00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:49,440
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Certainly that's what you want. Then you

69
00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,760
Speaker 1: look at what you'd call young guys and Dak and

70
00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,560
Speaker 1: Zeke and you know, I read a deal the other

71
00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,400
Speaker 1: day where they're two of the type MVP candidates in

72
00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,840
Speaker 1: the NFL, and so they certainly I don't look at

73
00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,160
Speaker 1: them necessarily as a young guys anymore because they've been

74
00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,000
Speaker 1: around the block. Uh, certainly that receiving corps albeit, uh

75
00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,400
Speaker 1: there's no death, there's you've got guys like Cole Beasley

76
00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,400
Speaker 1: and Terrence Williams and uh, you know that crew that

77
00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,440
Speaker 1: have done some good things for us. But that's probably

78
00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,960
Speaker 1: one of the greener groups. And then anytime you lose

79
00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,560
Speaker 1: a Jason Witten, Uh, certainly that's a green group. But

80
00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:28,960
Speaker 1: certainly we think probably U are more excited about the

81
00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,400
Speaker 1: group than most because you know, we see some good

82
00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,120
Speaker 1: skilled players there. And now there's no high draft picks there.

83
00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,200
Speaker 1: There's you know, there's no Jason Witten, so we understand that.

84
00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,080
Speaker 1: And then defensively, you mix Sean Lee and with that

85
00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,840
Speaker 1: young group of linebackers. I think he's got that covered

86
00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,080
Speaker 1: deal all with that group of defensive lineman. And then

87
00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,320
Speaker 1: you mix in that secondary back there with Byron and

88
00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,080
Speaker 1: uh and then it gets young. But it's exciting to

89
00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,920
Speaker 1: think of the players that we've added back there and

90
00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,640
Speaker 1: feel good that they're gonna make a difference. I want

91
00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,120
Speaker 1: to ask you about the receiver position, Stephen. You mentioned

92
00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,960
Speaker 1: I think you mentioned the draft. There is no Atlanta

93
00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,880
Speaker 1: type Julio Jones. Guy's gonna get your hunry catches. And again,

94
00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,279
Speaker 1: the offense isn't built like that You've got. It's a

95
00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,560
Speaker 1: Zeke run first offense. But how do you size up

96
00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,599
Speaker 1: what you've done at receiver and knowing that Dak's the

97
00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,960
Speaker 1: type of guy that likes to hit the open guy anyway,

98
00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,680
Speaker 1: He's not going to force things, how do you how

99
00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,680
Speaker 1: do you think that position stacks up? Well? I think

100
00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,200
Speaker 1: you're spot on. I think you know you'd probably be

101
00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,200
Speaker 1: way too optimistic to think we've got a true number

102
00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,840
Speaker 1: one receiver as we sit here today. Hopefully you know,

103
00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,240
Speaker 1: maybe that changes, who knows, But I will say this,

104
00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,520
Speaker 1: when we sat down in the off season to look

105
00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,200
Speaker 1: to go back to that term, Dac friendly what was

106
00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:46,400
Speaker 1: in his best interest. I think these moves could end

107
00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,000
Speaker 1: up making dact better because I think he's a quarterback.

108
00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,200
Speaker 1: He's very cerebral. He certainly understands the system, he works

109
00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,800
Speaker 1: at it, and he likes to work through his progressions

110
00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,160
Speaker 1: and that's hard to find in quarterbacks. A lot of

111
00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,280
Speaker 1: them are good going first, progression, second, and then things

112
00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,920
Speaker 1: get blurry. For him, he likes to go first, second, third, fourth,

113
00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,440
Speaker 1: and not feel any pressure to have to force the ball.

114
00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,560
Speaker 1: And I think with this group of receivers and tight

115
00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,560
Speaker 1: ends now and that's what made him great. Don't get

116
00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:18,440
Speaker 1: me wrong. Between Doz and Jason, certainly there's always pressure

117
00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,560
Speaker 1: to get the ball to players like that and sometimes

118
00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,760
Speaker 1: even when it's not necessarily the the read. And I think, now, Dak,

119
00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,560
Speaker 1: can you know, not feel any pressure, work through this

120
00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,080
Speaker 1: progressions and get the ball. I you know, I could

121
00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:35,680
Speaker 1: easily listening to Scott and Jason see games where you

122
00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,320
Speaker 1: know he eight different people touch the ball, you know,

123
00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,960
Speaker 1: catch footballs and and so I think that's what we,

124
00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,320
Speaker 1: you know, are going to look forward to for right now.

125
00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,080
Speaker 1: I think a lot of teams get it done. There's

126
00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,120
Speaker 1: good teams that get it done that way without the

127
00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:54,240
Speaker 1: dominant Julio Jones does Bryant type of receiver, and we

128
00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,520
Speaker 1: feel confident and that we can be very successful moving

129
00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,880
Speaker 1: the ball with this offensive line Zeke and then really

130
00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,560
Speaker 1: letting Dakh just run the offense. So you think that

131
00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,640
Speaker 1: he's coming off a down years injured, now he's had

132
00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,640
Speaker 1: some off the field stuff going on, Can Terrence still

133
00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,000
Speaker 1: be is He's still gonna be counting on as he's well,

134
00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,200
Speaker 1: he's got to go to work. I mean, there's no question,

135
00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,360
Speaker 1: and that's not his character. H In my opinion, I

136
00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,160
Speaker 1: think Terrence is a you know, top top end guy.

137
00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,560
Speaker 1: I think obviously, you know, from what you see there,

138
00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,720
Speaker 1: probably made some bad decisions that night, but uh, you know,

139
00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,679
Speaker 1: nobody's perfect. But if you look at Terence's full body

140
00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,120
Speaker 1: of work, I think Terence is a good person. He's

141
00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,600
Speaker 1: gonna work hard. But you know, we brought several receivers in.

142
00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:43,480
Speaker 1: We lost Dez and but we brought in obviously drafted

143
00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,040
Speaker 1: u Gallop and then you turn around and uh, you know,

144
00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,560
Speaker 1: paid some decent money, uh to Deante and to Hearns,

145
00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:54,240
Speaker 1: and so it's gonna be competitive. And anyone who thinks

146
00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,080
Speaker 1: they're just going to walk out there and something's gonna

147
00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,560
Speaker 1: be given to him, you know, they got another thing

148
00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,520
Speaker 1: coming signed. Jay's a great, great receiver coach. We think

149
00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,000
Speaker 1: he's one of the best in the NFL, and he

150
00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,360
Speaker 1: wanted it to be very competitive, and that's what we're

151
00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,080
Speaker 1: going to have a competitive situation to make this roster

152
00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,880
Speaker 1: at receiver. When you're out there watching practice, are you

153
00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,200
Speaker 1: watching the coaches some as much as the players at times,

154
00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,400
Speaker 1: just to kind of see Jerry's mentioned your new ideas

155
00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,120
Speaker 1: new you know, just it's a new group. As much

156
00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,040
Speaker 1: as there's some change on the roster. Well, I've probably

157
00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,240
Speaker 1: the one, you know, I hate to say you've enjoyed.

158
00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,360
Speaker 1: You know, you enjoy watching one go more than other.

159
00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,960
Speaker 1: But obviously Chris Frossard's bringing some energy out there. Reminds

160
00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,200
Speaker 1: me a little bit of Jerome Henderson. He's in his cleats.

161
00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,160
Speaker 1: I think he still thinks he played dB. I know

162
00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,520
Speaker 1: Jerome did so, but he brings a lot of energy,

163
00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:45,280
Speaker 1: certainly very vocal, not unlike Ride, and certainly have enjoyed

164
00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,000
Speaker 1: watching him coach these young defensive backs and he looks

165
00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,400
Speaker 1: forward to it. He loves the talent and the group.

166
00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:55,079
Speaker 1: If you take obviously the draft that we had last year,

167
00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,880
Speaker 1: where you take four defensive backs, it's a you know,

168
00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,720
Speaker 1: certainly a young group, but a group that he's certainly

169
00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,800
Speaker 1: fired up to work with. I know he said personally

170
00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,400
Speaker 1: they had Shadobe as their guy to pick right behind

171
00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,920
Speaker 1: us they're in Seattle, that they were going to pick him.

172
00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:17,240
Speaker 1: So he loved Shadobe coming out and certainly loves what

173
00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:21,840
Speaker 1: Byron represents with his length and moving him back to corner. Obviously,

174
00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:23,960
Speaker 1: he was a big part of that move, wanting to

175
00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,520
Speaker 1: move him back to being that long corner. And so

176
00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,880
Speaker 1: we're excited about what's going to go on back there.

177
00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,680
Speaker 1: But I do find myself watching both. You watch watch

178
00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,920
Speaker 1: those coaches that are a course Ride, you can't ever

179
00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,000
Speaker 1: miss Ride. Yeah, he's gonna give you a laugh. Ever

180
00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,520
Speaker 1: practice in terms of getting in those guys and work

181
00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,920
Speaker 1: at them. And it's always interesting when you bring in

182
00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,920
Speaker 1: these young defensive linemen because boy, their eyes are like holy,

183
00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,719
Speaker 1: what did I get myself into. I'm not so sure

184
00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,839
Speaker 1: some of the reasons we lose some of these guys,

185
00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,120
Speaker 1: like a McClean. As he went to bed, he was

186
00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,320
Speaker 1: fired up about coming back to Dallas, and then he

187
00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,679
Speaker 1: went to sleep that night said pod drills riding and

188
00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:06,679
Speaker 1: I think I'll go to Atlanta. Well, we know you

189
00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:08,600
Speaker 1: got to get out of here. I have one question

190
00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,280
Speaker 1: that's that's kind of off the field, related with with

191
00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,599
Speaker 1: Father's Day coming up here in a week and a

192
00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:17,720
Speaker 1: half or so, what is the Jones household like around

193
00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,480
Speaker 1: Father's Day? I mean, your dad's you know, done some

194
00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,200
Speaker 1: really cool stuff in his life. He's got everything. Do

195
00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,920
Speaker 1: y'all just do you still buy gifts? Do you just

196
00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,640
Speaker 1: hate out? What? What's that like? Yeah, well we do.

197
00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,840
Speaker 1: And uh, it's a special day obviously. I've been so

198
00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:36,280
Speaker 1: blessed to have a wonderful father who's I've been blessed

199
00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,079
Speaker 1: not only to what he was as a father figure

200
00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,840
Speaker 1: when I was growing up, but also to be able

201
00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,280
Speaker 1: to work side by side with him my entire life. So, uh,

202
00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,120
Speaker 1: you know, so special, and he's given so much as

203
00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,600
Speaker 1: a father, not only to me, but my brother and sister. Uh,

204
00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,880
Speaker 1: you know a lot of people you know find that

205
00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:54,839
Speaker 1: hard to believe that you know, a guy like that

206
00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,880
Speaker 1: has uh spent just as much time being a great father,

207
00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,400
Speaker 1: and that is what he is. He's all about family. Certainly,

208
00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,640
Speaker 1: I'm blessed to have four wonderful children. The three daughters

209
00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,679
Speaker 1: that have done so well, and my son will get

210
00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,160
Speaker 1: to hopefully all spend time together. I'll get to spend

211
00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,120
Speaker 1: a little time with my father and then I'll get

212
00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,520
Speaker 1: to spend some time with my kids. And Uh, I

213
00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,720
Speaker 1: joke a little bit that I'm that guy. I've got

214
00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,719
Speaker 1: the real famous father that I've known forever. So I

215
00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,760
Speaker 1: got his suitcase in my left hand. And little did

216
00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,080
Speaker 1: I know, though i'd have a son, that they were

217
00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,280
Speaker 1: gonna walk right by me in Hyland Park and ask

218
00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:35,160
Speaker 1: for his autographs. So I've got and I never thought

219
00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,520
Speaker 1: I'd love ever minute of it. So it's great, uh

220
00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:43,000
Speaker 1: being a father, and then obviously being so fortunate to

221
00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,880
Speaker 1: have a father, and even further than that, two wonderful

222
00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:52,280
Speaker 1: grandfathers that my father loved. H two had such a

223
00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,640
Speaker 1: special influence on my life, both my grandfathers as well

224
00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,319
Speaker 1: as my father's. So it's a it's a great day. Uh.

225
00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,920
Speaker 1: I wish all fathers out there a happy Father's Day,

226
00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,319
Speaker 1: and the only advice I give is, you can't ever

227
00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,160
Speaker 1: spend enough time with your kids, so love them and

228
00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,720
Speaker 1: squeeze them and enjoy the day. We enjoyed the time

229
00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,959
Speaker 1: that you gave us today. We appreciate you coming home.

230
00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:15,640
Speaker 1: We know you gotta run, so we're gonna take a

231
00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,800
Speaker 1: quick break and we will be right back on hanging

232
00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:20,600
Speaker 1: with the boys. It can be hard to find the

233
00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:24,240
Speaker 1: right resource for learning about important financial matters. You search

234
00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,400
Speaker 1: how to build savings, you end up reading about the

235
00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,720
Speaker 1: one weird ingredient from supermarkets that can make you taller.

236
00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,240
Speaker 1: That's why Bank of America build Better Money Habits dot com,

237
00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,640
Speaker 1: a safe little corner of the Internet for answering your

238
00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,880
Speaker 1: financial questions. Full of simple videos and tips, Better Money

239
00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:40,600
Speaker 1: Habits can show you how to make the most of

240
00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,720
Speaker 1: your money without resorting to random searches that always seem

241
00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,800
Speaker 1: to lead to unbelievable photos of childhood stars grown up.

242
00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,400
Speaker 1: To learn more, visit better Money habits dot com. I

243
00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,040
Speaker 1: definitely have an Instagram foody thing, but the low light

244
00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,920
Speaker 1: camera on my new Samsung Galaxy S nine from ATNT

245
00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,240
Speaker 1: is getting me a whole new world of likes and shares,

246
00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,680
Speaker 1: baskets of bread by candlelight, colorful fruit places in full sun.

247
00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,520
Speaker 1: Even a dimly lit cobb salad was recently hailed as

248
00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,160
Speaker 1: a masterpiece. Come in now and ask how to get

249
00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,960
Speaker 1: half off the new Samsung Galaxy S nine from AT

250
00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,640
Speaker 1: and T. AT and T weren't for your thing, that's

251
00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,839
Speaker 1: our thing, Limited time only. See store for details or

252
00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,240
Speaker 1: att dot com slash Samsung fip but du Lapertare supports

253
00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:17,600
Speaker 1: F one five mode and F two four MOODE two

254
00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,679
Speaker 1: Lapidur is installed on the beer camera. Oh, I am

255
00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,559
Speaker 1: craving a Doctor Pepper. I got some soda. I asked

256
00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:27,079
Speaker 1: not for soda, I asked for ice cold, cravable Doctor Pepper.

257
00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,000
Speaker 1: Its flavor is more one of a kid been a

258
00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:34,559
Speaker 1: four told sloth with a thirst for speed. Stop settling

259
00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:40,359
Speaker 1: for soda and start demanding doctor Pepper. I love sloths.

260
00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,560
Speaker 1: When you crave a Doctor Pepper, nothing else will do.

261
00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,280
Speaker 1: Grab an ice cold twenty ounce of doctor Pepper today,

262
00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,839
Speaker 1: Doctor Pepper, the one you crave back to hang in

263
00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:55,559
Speaker 1: with the boys. We're back on hanging with the boys.

264
00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,080
Speaker 1: Gonna be harder hard to follow that up. You can

265
00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,400
Speaker 1: do it. We know you can't. We can try. We

266
00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,560
Speaker 1: kind of glossed over this because we were trying to

267
00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,240
Speaker 1: get to Stevens so fast because he only had ten

268
00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,040
Speaker 1: minutes to spend with us. I think we actually held

269
00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:12,520
Speaker 1: him longer than that. But uh, Rob Phillips, the great

270
00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,800
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, I don't believe if you ever been on

271
00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,880
Speaker 1: this show. I used to co host the show and

272
00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,840
Speaker 1: it was called something else. Yeah, not hanging with the Balls.

273
00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,160
Speaker 1: Well you hadn't been on since we changed the format. Huh,

274
00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,920
Speaker 1: I don't think so. No, But Nate, Nate's got it covered.

275
00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,800
Speaker 1: You know. Well, we appreciate you filling him for him. Thanks,

276
00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,040
Speaker 1: of course, thanks for coming on. Thanks so good to

277
00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,480
Speaker 1: you do. Look, of course, you know we asked him.

278
00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,960
Speaker 1: We were asked him last minute. Hey, you know, Steven's

279
00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,200
Speaker 1: gonna we are actually gonna cancel the show today because

280
00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,960
Speaker 1: Nate was gone. We were like, hey, we all got

281
00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,160
Speaker 1: a lot going on, and Kurt, don't you have a

282
00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,960
Speaker 1: website to build or something something like that. Yeah, something's

283
00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,840
Speaker 1: been working on that a little bit. And uh, Kurt

284
00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,720
Speaker 1: was so great of getting Steven on. He was like, hey,

285
00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,600
Speaker 1: we've we've got Steven. We warned him, like, well, hell yeah,

286
00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,520
Speaker 1: let's go. Man, what time let's do it? So ran

287
00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,760
Speaker 1: over and asked Rob. I said, hey, we need a

288
00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,240
Speaker 1: third We're having the show today. Steven's on. So he

289
00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,440
Speaker 1: goes and changes, goes home and drives all the way

290
00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,960
Speaker 1: across Dallas change his clothes just for us, just for

291
00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,960
Speaker 1: Steven for it, leaves us hanging in. Yeah this these

292
00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,760
Speaker 1: get up. Yeah, y'all look terrible. That's that's okay. Problems No, no, no,

293
00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,640
Speaker 1: I got I got TV just outside, which I don't

294
00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,080
Speaker 1: know why they told me to wear a sport coat.

295
00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,280
Speaker 1: I guess I'd look so terrible when you're not you're

296
00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,160
Speaker 1: not hot enough out there? Apparently apparently not. Apparently. No,

297
00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,120
Speaker 1: we appreciate. We know you're busy, so thank you for

298
00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,080
Speaker 1: coming home anytime. What are you working on? What are

299
00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,160
Speaker 1: you working on these days? Ah? Well, we're doing some

300
00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:39,560
Speaker 1: Deep Blue documentaries that will come out. Kurt's working on

301
00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,600
Speaker 1: some as well. Can we talk about any of those?

302
00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,360
Speaker 1: What the subject? I'm actually going to interview Cliff Harris

303
00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:48,480
Speaker 1: today for nice several several documentaries. And you just interviewed

304
00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,840
Speaker 1: a couple of people, right. Um. We interviewed Calvin Hill

305
00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,360
Speaker 1: yesterday and We've had a few others down the road,

306
00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, we've got kind of got four or five

307
00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,200
Speaker 1: we're kind of in the works here that I'm helping

308
00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,800
Speaker 1: out with. What can we talk about what they are? Uh,

309
00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,120
Speaker 1: we're working on one about Dwayne Thomas, who was the

310
00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:10,560
Speaker 1: kind of mercurial running back in seventy seventy one, fascinating individual,

311
00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,240
Speaker 1: um doing stuffing on Tony Dorset. Obviously everybody knows his

312
00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,440
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame career. One of my favorites. Growing Yeah, yeah,

313
00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:22,440
Speaker 1: it's him in my bedroom many many times, knocking pillows

314
00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:29,080
Speaker 1: down and yeah, crossing the end zone, yeah, the scoreroom. Yeah,

315
00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,600
Speaker 1: it's he's interesting and that's why we're doing the stories

316
00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,720
Speaker 1: that in our generation he was the man. You know,

317
00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,320
Speaker 1: he was second and rushing i think when retired, but

318
00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,520
Speaker 1: today he's sort of an afterthought. He's yeah, I mean,

319
00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,600
Speaker 1: it's all in it, and so we're helping to kind

320
00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,200
Speaker 1: of tell his story. And then um Percy Harward. It's

321
00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,600
Speaker 1: one I've talked about before. I've been beating people down

322
00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,640
Speaker 1: with for I don't know how many years. We're fighting

323
00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,400
Speaker 1: getting that one going, and uh, what else we got

324
00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,360
Speaker 1: going on? I think Bob Bliley we're gonna work on

325
00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,800
Speaker 1: one on on that so we got several from Crawford.

326
00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:01,400
Speaker 1: Tyron Crawford is should be an unbelievable one from what

327
00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,960
Speaker 1: I've heard that the interviews that have been conducted. So

328
00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,360
Speaker 1: that's also going on. I'm not involved with that one.

329
00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,400
Speaker 1: So it's fun though. It's I think Rob can say

330
00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,320
Speaker 1: the same thing. It's fun talking to these guys and

331
00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:17,160
Speaker 1: putting these stories together. Yeah, we're working on Bill Parcels

332
00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,160
Speaker 1: and the oh three season, his first season in Dallas,

333
00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:24,280
Speaker 1: shaking things up, bringing some Jersey down to Texas and

334
00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,520
Speaker 1: changing the whole culture around here. Was that the Quincy year?

335
00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,639
Speaker 1: It was Quincy the next year? Quincy was a third

336
00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,280
Speaker 1: year guy at that point. But when did they cut

337
00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,520
Speaker 1: him at camp with the next summer four? Yeah? Oh

338
00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,760
Speaker 1: three was his best season. You know, Bill kind of

339
00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,880
Speaker 1: molded him and he was pretty efficient that year, and

340
00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:44,679
Speaker 1: you know that was That's part of the story, is

341
00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,920
Speaker 1: the talent level that they had was not very good.

342
00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,359
Speaker 1: It was it was bad actually overall on paper, they

343
00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,199
Speaker 1: didn't do Campo any favors. No, No, the cupboard was

344
00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,080
Speaker 1: pretty bare and uh yeah, just the culture change and

345
00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,760
Speaker 1: obviously he was gold when he was here. Those thirty

346
00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,359
Speaker 1: minute press conferences were musty television, the opposite of what

347
00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,280
Speaker 1: we have now. I like Jason Garretts press conference, I

348
00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,560
Speaker 1: really do. But I mean there's a real those are

349
00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:10,600
Speaker 1: carried live because of Bill Parcels. Really he started people

350
00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,399
Speaker 1: don't realize and are y'all tell him that you may

351
00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:16,000
Speaker 1: be outlining this in the documentary, but he changed a

352
00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,720
Speaker 1: lot of things that carried over through this, like shutting

353
00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:23,320
Speaker 1: down practice except for certain times and things like that.

354
00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,840
Speaker 1: That is that a lot of that going into this documentary. Yeah,

355
00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,439
Speaker 1: I mean there's still things that still. I mean, Stephen

356
00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,480
Speaker 1: Jones was just here and every now and then I'll

357
00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,560
Speaker 1: hear him give a Parcels is m you know in

358
00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,960
Speaker 1: an interview two sides of that pancake or something like that.

359
00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,240
Speaker 1: You know, his impact is still here and he really

360
00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,080
Speaker 1: he set up the Cowboys forced success with some of

361
00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,359
Speaker 1: the guys he found. Obviously went in Romo, but you

362
00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,960
Speaker 1: know they didn't get to the super Bowl. But but

363
00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,600
Speaker 1: the culture change and the path they got on the

364
00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,280
Speaker 1: right path when he was here, I've always wondered my

365
00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:58,480
Speaker 1: favorite part of the Garrett press conference is actually the

366
00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,600
Speaker 1: walk off after where it's off came. He kind of

367
00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,440
Speaker 1: talks to the reporters and it's a little a little

368
00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,520
Speaker 1: more relaxed and um, you know you can learn some

369
00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,800
Speaker 1: kind of background stuff. But what was Purcell's But did

370
00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,320
Speaker 1: he do that same type of thing? And what were

371
00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,480
Speaker 1: they like? I can't remember if he had walk offs

372
00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,640
Speaker 1: or not. I don't I don't think he did very

373
00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:18,080
Speaker 1: all the time. Yea. The best thing about Bill was

374
00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,240
Speaker 1: he would go he would go on a topic. It

375
00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,919
Speaker 1: could be horse racing, it could be anything, and you

376
00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:24,880
Speaker 1: could find some kind of tie in either to your

377
00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,800
Speaker 1: life or to football. But there was also some genius

378
00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:31,880
Speaker 1: behind that because maybe, as Jock Taylor told me, maybe

379
00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:33,760
Speaker 1: the locker room opens fifteen minutes late and you got

380
00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,720
Speaker 1: less time to bother his players. You know, he kind

381
00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,000
Speaker 1: of wanted to be he wanted to be the Yeah,

382
00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,320
Speaker 1: he was a genius at a kind of you know,

383
00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,840
Speaker 1: playing the media at times, selling a story he wanted

384
00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,080
Speaker 1: to sell and uh and really being the only disseminator

385
00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,119
Speaker 1: of information. Don't talk to my assistants, don't talk to

386
00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,159
Speaker 1: the trainers. You come to me and I'll tell you

387
00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:53,679
Speaker 1: if I feel like it, I'll tell you what's up

388
00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,240
Speaker 1: with injuries? Or whatever. So have you interviewed him yet

389
00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,639
Speaker 1: for that? Yeah? Yeah, Kent and uh and Scott Purcell

390
00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:04,080
Speaker 1: and I down there last month doing well. He's seventy five.

391
00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,840
Speaker 1: He raises horses, now, that's what race horses are raising him,

392
00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,800
Speaker 1: I know. But he the race horses or you know,

393
00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,000
Speaker 1: I think I think so. I think so he's big

394
00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,640
Speaker 1: into horse racing, right, Oh, he loves it. He loves it. Um. So, yeah,

395
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,840
Speaker 1: he's doing he's doing well. He's tan, he's looking good golf.

396
00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:21,119
Speaker 1: I think he was on his way to play some

397
00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,880
Speaker 1: golf after has he has he mellowed and chilled out

398
00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,160
Speaker 1: and he's or the same life. He was great. Yeah,

399
00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,480
Speaker 1: he was great. Now he he might have scared me

400
00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,479
Speaker 1: a couple of times when I was twenty two, just

401
00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,359
Speaker 1: you know, right out of college coming here trying to

402
00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,119
Speaker 1: cover the great pill barcelves. But yeah, he's it was

403
00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:36,920
Speaker 1: it was. We really enjoyed. I think it's gonna be

404
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,879
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. But it's like our interview with

405
00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,760
Speaker 1: Mike Ditko. We went down to Florida inter the same thing.

406
00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,280
Speaker 1: It was just kind of intimidating, scary presence, but he

407
00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,480
Speaker 1: was a great guy. He's got interview you got a

408
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 1: couple of fun stories. Yeah, fun story. I don't know

409
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 1: if we should share here. Just the process of yeah,

410
00:20:55,119 --> 00:21:00,280
Speaker 1: getting there was interesting for sure. O So Rob, Yes, sir.

411
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 1: Since we're not really familiar with you, it could be

412
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 1: taken several different ways. I thought we were no, we are,

413
00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,920
Speaker 1: but on the show we're not. Yeah, you know, so

414
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 1: what do you? We talk about it all the time,

415
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 1: what we're most excited to see going into camp, and

416
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:22,400
Speaker 1: we talked about on this show a lot how this

417
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,919
Speaker 1: might be the most exciting camp we've had in a

418
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,679
Speaker 1: long time, maybe ever. With all the coaching changes, the

419
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 1: whole secondary pretty much is new, with the you know

420
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,880
Speaker 1: exception of probably Jeff Heath and Byron, and Byron's only

421
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 1: been here what four years, switching positions. You've got you know,

422
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 1: the offensive line had some hiccups last year with injuries

423
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 1: and stuff. They tried to shore that up. You got

424
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,919
Speaker 1: Dak that came off of a crazy successful, you know,

425
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 1: rookie year, a great kind of undercover sophomore year where

426
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:55,919
Speaker 1: some people think he didn't have a great year, but

427
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 1: on paper he did. You got Zeke back hopefully for

428
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 1: a full year. All this, all these backstories and crazy stuff.

429
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 1: What are you what's the one thing going into camp

430
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 1: that one or two things that you're like, this is

431
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 1: what I'm going to camp, and I would want to

432
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 1: see every single day. I think I asked Stephen about it.

433
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 1: To me, the wide receiver position is fascinating to me,

434
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 1: and it's I liken it a little bit to two

435
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 1: thousand and nine when I was here covering. That was

436
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 1: Wade's team and they had cut t O a couple

437
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 1: months prior to camp, and they really didn't have a

438
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 1: number one receiver. That's the last time I can think

439
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 1: of a Cowboys offense that didn't have like a go

440
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 1: to guy. You know, you didn't have t O, but

441
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 1: you at least, I guess then you at least had

442
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 1: Jason Witten in his prime and somebody stepped up. Miles

443
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 1: Austin stepped up that year and became a Pro Bowl guy,

444
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 1: kind of out of nowhere. That's him, Thanks Doun, classic

445
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,639
Speaker 1: Miles SoundBite. He's a great guy. So there's there's the

446
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 1: expectations around this team are are really interesting because I

447
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 1: think maybe some of the media don't think they're gonna

448
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 1: be a playoff team, may not be close to the

449
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,879
Speaker 1: playoff team because of all the youth and because of

450
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 1: some questions they have, particularly on offense putting guys around Dak.

451
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got nine total catches at the tight

452
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 1: end position career and it's all Jeff Swain and so

453
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 1: who's gonna step up? You know? But there's there is

454
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 1: talent at wide receiver and I throw table on Austin

455
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 1: and that mix two even though you might call him

456
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 1: a running back. The question though, is do they need

457
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,479
Speaker 1: a number one guy? And you do have to have

458
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 1: somebody I think step up and at least draw attention,

459
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: draw double teams, something to get Cole Beasley a break

460
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 1: that might have scared you a little bit. Yeah, some

461
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: mighty scare you a little bit on the other side,

462
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 1: I think. So, I think that's his It's a great

463
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 1: opportunity for him to step in and say, hey, you can,

464
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 1: you can be the guy on this offense. And the

465
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 1: only thing really holding him back is ben injuries in Jackson. Yeah,

466
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 1: so I think that's the hope. I think Michael Gallops

467
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 1: the guy to watch, you know, Terrence Williams and Cole like,

468
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 1: we know who they are, who they can be for

469
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: this offense. Um, but Gallup's interesting to me. You watch

470
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: him out at practice and he's an explosive young guy,

471
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 1: So so he might be a guy that competes for time.

472
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,120
Speaker 1: I think it's I mean, we said this last week

473
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 1: that there's like eleven wide receivers on the roster, and

474
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 1: Beasley and Williams are the only ones that have any

475
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 1: kind of service time with the team. Everybody else, I

476
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 1: think Noah Brown and Lenore have been here one year.

477
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 1: Everybody else's brand new. It's weird, isn't it crazy? Yeah?

478
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 1: And so like for continuity for Dak, it's not. It's

479
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: not ideal, I guess, but you know, they decided to

480
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: move on without Dez. I think that they made that

481
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 1: clear and they think they can do this by committee.

482
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: And the thing to remember is you got you got

483
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 1: twenty one on the field, and if you got him

484
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,719
Speaker 1: for sixteen games, that's a nice guy to lean on

485
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 1: in your running game. And you just have to have

486
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,199
Speaker 1: some reliable receivers. The thing that it cites me the

487
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: most about this offense is the offensive line. Connor Williams

488
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 1: pick I loved it. I think, hands down, yeah, awesome.

489
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: He's looking good out there. I think from a he's athletic,

490
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,880
Speaker 1: he's physical. If he can stabilize this line, I think

491
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: they can get back to being what they were. You know,

492
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: people talk about twenty sixteen, but you know the first

493
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 1: half of last year they were really good, putting a

494
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 1: close to thirty points. Where are they going to put him?

495
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 1: Where's he playing? He's probably your left guard? Now? Is

496
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,919
Speaker 1: there any concern with the whole Martin situation? And I

497
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: don't think so. I guess we didn't get to that

498
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 1: with Stephen, but he talked about a couple of days ago, like, No,

499
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 1: that's just part of the process, part of the deal.

500
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: I mean the fact that he's been here working out,

501
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 1: just not practicing. Obviously he's still been around a little bit.

502
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 1: I just and I wanted to ask Steven. I just

503
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: questioned spending that much money on another guard. I mean

504
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: the salary's the top guards are getting now is I'm

505
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: not sure anybody ever saw that coming. Yeah, and now,

506
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 1: if you already got a pretty high priced offensive line,

507
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 1: you've got a quarterback you got to sign soon, you

508
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: got potential defensive and you got to sign soon. Man,

509
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 1: do you want to throw more money at the offensive line,

510
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: especially when you just drafted a guy that looks like

511
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: he could be, yeah, pretty solid guard. I would throw

512
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: more money at Zach because I think he might. He's

513
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 1: to me, he's he's your best player pound for pound,

514
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 1: and I might put Zeke right up there. But on

515
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: the whole team. Yeah, I mean he's. I mean he's

516
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: you could argue he's the best offensive lineman in football

517
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 1: just pound for pound what he does, maybe at least

518
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 1: the interior lineman. Um. He just doesn't make mistakes out there,

519
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 1: and he's kind of he's a leader in his own way,

520
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 1: the way he goes about things. Really, all those guys are,

521
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 1: so I would pay him, But Kurt, I was gonna

522
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: ask Steven that same thing, like you've you've got a

523
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: budget for some things coming up. Yeah, you know, like

524
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: you said potentially to Marcus Lawrence, dak is eligible for

525
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: a deal after next year. What's he going to command?

526
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: I mean, those are questions, But damn if I would

527
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,120
Speaker 1: have known you were going to ask that, I would

528
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: have not asked my Father's day question. I am not

529
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 1: a positive. You know that's good. So who's your topical

530
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 1: it's two weeks away. Who's your who's your who's your

531
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: starting five coming out of training camp on the offensive line.

532
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 1: Offensive line, I mean, I think you've got the three

533
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl guys tying Travis Zach. I think having Connor

534
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: Williams drafted as your left guard, Kurt, I mean, I

535
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: think that that makes it easy to keep Lyel where

536
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: he is. Yeah, Nate was talking about this last week.

537
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: You got to put him in there and just let

538
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: him go. There's no let's try this guy here, let's

539
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 1: do this, let's move it. Put Connor Williams in there

540
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 1: and go. And I didn't. I didn't get out to

541
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 1: practice yesterday. Did they have him working with the first

542
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: team munity? He's been at well, did I know he

543
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 1: was the first first ota. Yeah, he's been at left guard,

544
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 1: and they've got, you know, just the flexibility they have

545
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: now with Cameron Fleming, who's played in the Super Bowl,

546
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 1: by the way, to be a swing tackle for you.

547
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: Chaz Green has been working at guard, at right guard,

548
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 1: that's what it is, right guard. With Zach being out,

549
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 1: I don't know where you play him, but they've added

550
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: some depth there and because look, that was arguably the

551
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: biggest issue they had last year. What happens if something

552
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: happens to Tyrn Smith, DAC needs to be protected a

553
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: little bit more, a little bit What made you think

554
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 1: that that Atlantic game? Atlantic game? The rest of the

555
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: season all or nothing kind of reconfirmed that Nat Snate

556
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: is convinced that that Atlanta game, Dak changed like he

557
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: he changed. He I believe that. Look at the first

558
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 1: eight games the last eighty, well his production changed. What

559
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: does he mean, like like PTSD type number of sacks,

560
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: and I mean it was yeah, just mentally mentally it

561
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: affected him somehow in his game where you know, you

562
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 1: take a beating like that and he just thinks that

563
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: that that that kind of changes the dynamic at the

564
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: quarterback position. Maybe the ball comes out a little quicker. Yeah, yeah,

565
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: I mean I've I haven't seen something like that in

566
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: years from the press box, I mean literally every time

567
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: in college. God, he was running, Yeah, he was running

568
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: for his life for sure. I think they found a

569
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: way some contingencies to fix that. Yeah, and you know

570
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 1: it also didn't help having Zeke out as well. Yeah

571
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: that's true. But so back to the wide receiver position.

572
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: Since they have so much depth now and they've gone

573
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: out and gotten they continue to add guys to get

574
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: in the mix for for you know, whether it's camp bodies,

575
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: whether it's really to compete, whatever. I mean, you've got

576
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: some you know. I don't think there's a clear cut

577
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: number one. I think they hope Hearns is that guy.

578
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: But everybody else is in the conversation. I don't think

579
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: anybody's safe on this roster. I could see any six

580
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,719
Speaker 1: or seven guys making this team and not be surprised

581
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: if any of them don't. What are your opinions on,

582
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: you know, the bad decision Terrence Williams obviously made. Can't

583
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: ride a scooter? For I can't believe he can't ride

584
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: a scooter. Just put that in the garage. He rides

585
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: a scooter about the advising him on his pr didn't

586
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: do that. That had to that that scooters broken, Just

587
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: get rid of it, get you a new one. But

588
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: maybe it's operating error since we've seen him. Man, No, no,

589
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: something was wrong seconds down all with that scooter. Man,

590
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: something's wrong with that scooter. Is there any do you

591
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: guys think that there's any You know, we probably could

592
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: ask Stephen this as well. Is he in danger of

593
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: not making this team? Were you listening? I kind of

594
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: asked that, didn't I kind of you did actually listening. No, yeah,

595
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: but what do you guys think? We one, he's coming

596
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: off kind of a down year, didn't score a touchdown,

597
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: his yardage was I think the lowis has ever been.

598
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: He's hurt. He's gonna miss the higher ots, mini camp.

599
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: I'm not sure when he's suspected back for a training

600
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: camp and then I don't think, yeah, I would think

601
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: camp is probably Now he's got this, which you know

602
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: on a one off isn't really maybe that big a deal.

603
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: But I mean, there's he's had a couple other little

604
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: stupid incidents, nothing where he faced legal trouble, but it

605
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: was just kind of silly stuff. You have to kind

606
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: of wonder, I mean, is this a guy you kind

607
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: of know what you've gott in him already? Is he

608
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: worth whatever other troubles that may come up or whatever

609
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: other injury difficulties he's facing. I don't, like you said,

610
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: there's so many other guys on the roster, and like

611
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: Stephen said, there's gonna be competition, I wouldn't. I wouldn't

612
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: say he's guaranteed at all. I think his experience is

613
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: important because if you take him away from this roster

614
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: it's Cole Beasley and that's it. Like from last year,

615
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: It's incredible, that's unreal. How much it would you can

616
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: you kind of guy like I mean, Hearns obviously doesn't

617
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: have experience here, but he has into the NFL. Does

618
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: that count for anything? Absolutely right now? And you know,

619
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: picturing Terrence healthy for training camp, I would put him

620
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: in Alan Herns right now as your starters to start out,

621
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: with Cole being kind of that another starter in the slot.

622
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: But Michael Gallup is gonna you mentioned competition. I think

623
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: he's gonna push for playing time right off the bat,

624
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: and I just I wouldn't think something like this though,

625
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: is going to threaten his his spot. I know people

626
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: have talked about, well, the NFL could come in and

627
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: who knows, maybe they issue some type of punishment because

628
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: we've seen that happen outside of whatever happens legally, and

629
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: then you know, guaranteed money not necessarily being you could

630
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: avoid that if he's suspending all that. I think his

631
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: experience is important and I would keep him on this

632
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: roster certainly entering training camp and then see how the

633
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: competition shakes out. But to me, letting him go, the

634
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: idea of that, like man turning over your entire receiving corps.

635
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think he'd have to fall

636
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: on his face to let in training camp and then

637
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: thank you kind of together. Whoa who did you see

638
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: on the air live? Oh yeah, oh my goodness, that

639
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: was one of many I thinks. But now it's the

640
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: internet us here in this room. Hopefully he comes back

641
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: more motivated and has something to prove and yeah, recognizes

642
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: where he's what he's gonna do. But it's amazing even

643
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: without Dez here, It's like, how many receivers can you have?

644
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: Like how how much can the ball get spread around?

645
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: Especially with Tavon Austin, Like it sounds like they've got

646
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: a a role defined in mind for him, maybe as

647
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: a running back, maybe as a wide receiver, probably both.

648
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: Do you see him as kind of a Lance Dunbar

649
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: type guy in this in this on this team, totally

650
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: mismatch guy, move him around all over the formation? I

651
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: asked Scott Lanahan a couple of weeks ago. He said, Yeah,

652
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: we look at him as a receiver first, but that

653
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you can't use him in the backfield. Yeah,

654
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,719
Speaker 1: they list him as a running back. Yeah, Cross, I mean,

655
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: I think he had sixty carries last year for the Rams.

656
00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: So find a way to stretch the defense vertically horizontally

657
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: and maybe that opens up some things for other guys.

658
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: Have they been using cole um and OTAs that whenever

659
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: you guys have been able to watch practice, have they

660
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: been using him any different? Or they moving him outside

661
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: or is he still strictly inside? Like what are they

662
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: doing with him? Yeah, Brian wrote about there yesterday outside

663
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: a little bit. D try to try to free him

664
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: from that bracket coverage, you know, where they just clogs

665
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: the middle of the field and takes him out. It's

666
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: so important that get him going, I think because two

667
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: years ago he was he was Dak's safety. But yeah, yeah,

668
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: oh god. What'd you think of the album? You know,

669
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: the autobiography? Not terrible? Yeah, I agree, not bad. I

670
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: mean I don't think it was great. But for his first,

671
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: you know, his first project, and and for it to

672
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: be kind of you know, produced here locally and all that,

673
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: I thought it was. I thought it was pretty good, man,

674
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. I think it was pretty solid. What

675
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: do you think I like? I mean, I'm not proficient

676
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: in the rap game. I'm more nineties rap, you know,

677
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: and I'm getting old, but I enjoyed it. Kurt. Yeah,

678
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,760
Speaker 1: I'm kind of along with you. What I've heard I liked. Again,

679
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: I all Kurt has heard is I've heard. I've heard

680
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: one other. Uh yeah, my eighty stings. My rap rap

681
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: games not up to rap games. Pretty thin, you'd say,

682
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: my level of knowledge. What's your opinion on that, man,

683
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: we kind of talked about it, but just having a

684
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: side gig outside of football, that's you know, fans think

685
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: football players you shouldn't be doing that, you should be playing. Well,

686
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: they do have months off at a time. They do

687
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 1: have free time. It's not like they go they wake up,

688
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: they come straight to the facility, they work out, they

689
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: watch tape till ten o'clock or eleven o'clock and then

690
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: they go straight. They have downtime. They have families, they

691
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: have hobbies, they they're they're normal people. Just because they're

692
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: on lockdown about seven or eight months out of the

693
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: year with football doesn't mean they can't do other things.

694
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: I have no problem with it. What do you think

695
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: does that distract him? Is that? What do you what

696
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: are your opinion? It drives me crazy that people feel

697
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: that way, like absolutely drives me crazy, Like and it

698
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: goes back to the best example I could think of

699
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: as Tony Romo playing golf, Like, yeah, people got so

700
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: mad about that because he would go off and play

701
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: around in February, Like, what the hell's he supposed to do?

702
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 1: He was a single guy. You know, I guess you're

703
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: supposed to watch film and slip like a pizza box

704
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: underneath the door or something. You know, not everybody is

705
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: Sean Lee. Not everybody might be that literally, you know what.

706
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: You know what I read and I don't I think

707
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 1: it was on our website. It might have been one

708
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: of your articles of Dave's. They were talking to Sean

709
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 1: Lee about the young guys and vander ash and what

710
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 1: he thought, and Sean Lee, He's like, watch, I watched

711
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 1: film on him to know what kind of player he

712
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 1: was and read a little bit about who does that.

713
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: This guy's a rookie come in. Sean Lees in the

714
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: league for what eight nine years and he's watching film

715
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: on the rookies that are coming in to know who

716
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: he's playing with. I mean, that's unreal. And that's how

717
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,919
Speaker 1: you intimidate a rookie right there. Yeah, I've watched film,

718
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: you know, in that uh, that game against you know Marshall,

719
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: you really blew it on that third and one, Like

720
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: what you screwed up your keys there? Dude, I don't know, man,

721
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,720
Speaker 1: I he's a genius. He's a Machine's amazing, He's a machine.

722
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: He'll be a coach as soon as he steps off

723
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: the field or whatever. Hell, he already is a coach.

724
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: He's a coach on the field for sure. So well,

725
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: let's take one more break before we uh, before we

726
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: end the show, and I want to get your thoughts.

727
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: We're talking about linebacker Jalen Smiths had some some not

728
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 1: surprising some some comments, you know, the last few days,

729
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: the last couple of OTAs. Get your thoughts on that.

730
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 1: We talked a little bit about tight end situation. I

731
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 1: shouldn't want to get youall thoughts on you know, what

732
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: do you think going into camp? That seems to be

733
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: like a kind of a coin toss all the way

734
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: around there. And then we'll talk about other stuff when

735
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: we come back on Hanglo Boy Cowboys fans know that

736
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: the second best of anything simply won't cut it, and

737
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: your skincare should be no different. A long time locker

738
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: room favorite of the players and the official men's skincare

739
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: brand of the Dallas Cowboys. Dallas based Jack Black is

740
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: the number one best selling men's skincare brand in the

741
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: country because we make products that help guys look, smell,

742
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: and feel better. Visit get Jack Black dot com slash

743
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 1: Cowboys to get ten dollars off your first order of

744
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: fifty dollars or more. Jack Black Look Good, Smell good,

745
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: Feel good. Official men skincare brand of the Dallas Cowboys.

746
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: Star Sports Tours is the only official fan travel partner

747
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: of the Dallas Cowboys, offering exclusive game weekend travel packages

748
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: with sideline access and photo ops with current players, alumni

749
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: and cheerleaders. That's not all, though, You'll get to talk

750
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: xs and os with Senior Director of Player Personnel Will

751
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: McClay and of course with yours truly me, Brian broad Us.

752
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: You can trust the official fan travel partner of the

753
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, and with us you'll travel like a pro.

754
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 1: Visit Cowboys Travel dot com to book your travel package today.

755
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: Before there was a draft. You get sized up a

756
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 1: cowboy by three simple factors. The crease in his hat,

757
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: the bend of his brim, and his unbending attitude a man,

758
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: Stetson didn't just protect him from what life throw at him,

759
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:26,439
Speaker 1: It projected a rugged, unstoppable spirit. Stetson hats are still

760
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 1: American made with pride. Right here in Texas. There's still

761
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 1: the unofficial crown of all self respecting cowboys, and Stetson

762
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: is proud to be on the field with America's team.

763
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: Find a retailer nearest Hwitt Stetson dot com slash Cowboys.

764
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: I definitely have an Instagram foody thing, but the low

765
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 1: light camera on my new Samsung Galaxy S nine from

766
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: AT and T is getting me a whole new world

767
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: of likes and chairs, baskets of bread by candlelight, colorful

768
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: fruit plates in full sun. Even a dimly lit cobb

769
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: salad was recently hailed as a masterpiece. Come in now

770
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 1: and ask how to get half off the new Samsung

771
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: Galaxy S nine from AT, AT and T. Won't for

772
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: your thing, that's our thing many time. Only see store

773
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: for details or att dot com. Sleft Samsung fifty du

774
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: laperature supports have one five mode and have two four

775
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: mode U laperatures installed on the your camera. I was like,

776
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: I'm not simp messed up. I gotta call the show

777
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: back to hanging with the bulls. We are back in

778
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: in case you're wondering, As Rob said, what was that

779
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: that again? Doucho sell you are you there, Dougie? So

780
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not simp messed up. I gotta

781
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: call the show. That was after a trip to the dentist.

782
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 1: Was there photo evidence of that? I think I've seen it.

783
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 1: Just oh, I have a video down up there. I

784
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: have a video on my Instagram account that I don't

785
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: even remember posting you. I was just like smiling and

786
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:50,399
Speaker 1: looking at taking a video selfie, just like, hey, oh yeah,

787
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: I had a tooth. Lucky you didn't, Zani the or

788
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: anything speaking of pulland but you got over there, Kurt Holland. Holland,

789
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: I said, I had a tooth pulled. Speaking of pulling,

790
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: Weggie's pulling. I don't know what he's talking about. Don't no,

791
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: just read the damn thing. Adjust your cleats, adjust your pads,

792
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: even just your helmet. But seriously, don't adjust your underwear

793
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: because once it's been seen, it cannot be unseen. Tommy

794
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: John has contour pouch that nestles the boys and moisture

795
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 1: wicking fabric to keep you cooling dry on the field

796
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: or in the stands. I've got mine on today. I

797
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: bet Rob does. Rob looks so good always always two

798
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: of my favorite words, nestles and moisture. I love so

799
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: strong at the balls And you went, you just change

800
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: your whole wardrobe too, I did. I changed out. Yeah,

801
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: I changed. Yeah, I swapped all my drawers. Nice swapping drawers.

802
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: All right, get yours swapping drawers at Cowboys Underwear at

803
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: Tommy john dot com Forward Slash Cowboys for twenty percent

804
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 1: off your first order Tommy john dot com Forward Slash Cowboys. WHOA,

805
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: there you go. Paul's coming back this year. Yes, she

806
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: said he's bringing friends too, rights Paul. Yeah, Scottish Paul.

807
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: He's coming to Uh, He's going to the Texans game

808
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: and then he's coming to I think the Titans game

809
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: is the week after. He's staying for a week, so

810
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: he's gonna try to catch two games, one one in

811
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: Houston and one here. So probably have him back on

812
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: the show when Yes prepared. So let's talk about a

813
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: few things. First off, what's going on at tight end?

814
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 1: Who is there a front runner going into training camp

815
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: or whoa, and what's up with that guy? Zeus? What

816
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 1: are you thinking? I want to see more out of

817
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: Jeff Swain, not only because he's a friend of the

818
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: show and he'll come on any time we ask him.

819
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: But he's a good dude and we met his folks. Yeah,

820
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 1: really nice people. Yep. But he's a good player too.

821
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: He's a good player, and I think they underutilize him.

822
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: He's you know when they when they called his number,

823
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: he's been there. He's a good I think he's a

824
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: good blocker. I think he's a better pass catcher and

825
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 1: route runner than than people think. Um. But you know,

826
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: this team's kind of or at least the fans have

827
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: been in love with Rico the last year year and

828
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 1: a half after unknown he showed albat But he's kind

829
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: of one dimensional right now, and he does he need

830
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: to step up his blocking game to get more playing time.

831
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: What's going on at tight end? He he almost I

832
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: think he said yesterday, it's almost like step eight going

833
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: back to step one at step eight from step eight,

834
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: you know, because of all the time he missed. I mean,

835
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: just think about a guy that was playing in middle

836
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: school playing football and then he makes the transition and

837
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: it's going kind of well, and then he sits out

838
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: a whole another year. So I don't know what the

839
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: expectations are for him. I know pass catching, he can

840
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: be effective. We saw him with a couple of touchdowns

841
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: in preseason. Blocking is probably the biggest thing and the

842
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,720
Speaker 1: thing about it is in this offense and Jason Wentnen

843
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: you talk about it. They asked their tight ends to

844
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: do so much, to handle so much responsibility in line,

845
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: all backfield, all those things. Can he pick that up?

846
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: And to me you mentioned Swam, I think Dalton Schultz,

847
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: the rookie a real opportunity to step in and be

848
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 1: effective right off the bat because he played at Stanford

849
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 1: and they're like a factory for tight ends. So think

850
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: part of that the blocking aspect, especially as mindset. And

851
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: does Rico have that. I mean, you gotta get in

852
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: there due the dirty work any maybe he does. I'm

853
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: not hit people exactly. What about Jarwin, He's still in

854
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 1: the mix. A touchdown yesterday, look good. He's a guy

855
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: that can, like you mentioned Swam kind of underrated, can

856
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 1: separate down the field and get open and make some plays.

857
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: You know, So there's some athleticism there I just the

858
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: Rico thing is just and dynamite drop Doug. But that like, uh,

859
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 1: it's fascinating to me because I just I want to

860
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: see more of him and see if he can get

861
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: back to where he was last summer, because it was

862
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: just a shame that he missed all that time. Can

863
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: you see like Jarwin because they put him on the

864
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: active roster and towards the end of the last year,

865
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: so exciting to see what he can do. Think Philly

866
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: tried to put him on their practice squad and Cowboys

867
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: made the move. They didn't really have a role for

868
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: him back then. They just want to keep him. Can

869
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: you see them keeping all four tight ends and running

870
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 1: more two tight end sets and change or here here's

871
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: a bigger picture question and it kind of fits into that.

872
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: I think the one thing that everybody could agree on

873
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 1: last year that I talked to casual fans hardcore fans

874
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: is this team didn't do a very good job of

875
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 1: mixing things up. Like when you saw certain formations, you

876
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: knew what play they were going to run. When you

877
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: saw this, you knew this was coming, and they ran

878
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: it looked like just a basic offense pretty much all

879
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: year and even people that don't really know football that

880
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: much that would talk to me. They'd be like, put

881
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: somebody in motion, Like move one guy from one side

882
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: to the other. Run you know, some different sets. Can

883
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: you see? Do you think they go into this season

884
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: not learning anything from last year and just go ahead,

885
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: here we are again, this is what we're doing. Or

886
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 1: do you think they'll try to mix it up. I

887
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: think a little bit that's overrated because I think they

888
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: tried putting Dez in motion. They moved him around, trying

889
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: to get him, you know, better opportunities. But yeah, I

890
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,919
Speaker 1: mean I think you can. I mentioned Cole. You gotta

891
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: find ways to get him freed up a little bit.

892
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: That's one example. I think Tavon Austin being here, he's

893
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 1: kind of a chess piece. You move him around, find

894
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: some different opportunities for him. But that's why I asked

895
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: Steven about the coaches, because Jerry has spoken of that,

896
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: like we may need to do some things a little

897
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: bit different tactically and bring in some guys Paul Exander

898
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: on the offensive line, new receivers, coach guys that can

899
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 1: come up with some new ideas and add to what

900
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: Jason and Scott are doing Yeah, Kurt, Yeah you got anything?

901
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: Or do you may move the next up sitting there

902
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: looking at I mean, I know Rob looks good in

903
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: that jacket and talk too much. No, I'm interested in

904
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: what he was saying. Don't be coming at me. Whoa, whoa.

905
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: This is like me and Mickey going at it and talking.

906
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: I love it. Sit world the same side of the

907
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: table for each other. Jerk Kurt up. I agree with him, Okay,

908
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 1: goods confrontation like I wouldn't expect that from Kurt Cood

909
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 1: such a nice guy, good answer feeling. Kurt's like a

910
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: black belt in Mma. Kurt. He's just calm and just

911
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: waiting for an excuse to do something. You ought to

912
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: see our controlled rage. You ought to see our director meetings.

913
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: When we're in the room, I'll say hell, come at

914
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: Kurt and he'll boy, he'll snap at me, and I

915
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: love it pretty awesome. But we have a hate hate relationship,

916
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: so a lot of you. I love you too, Man

917
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: livebacker position uh Jalen Smith came out and said that

918
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: he's like three points something percent body fat, He's gained

919
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: like ten ten fifteen pounds and muscle. He's running a

920
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: shuttle time that if he was if it was at

921
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 1: the Combine this year, I think he would be third

922
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: overall out of all players, not just at his position.

923
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 1: So it sounds like physically he's getting to or where

924
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: he needs to be. How do you think that's gonna translate?

925
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: From what you know? Everybody looks good without pads one,

926
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: How do you do you think he's gonna make it

927
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 1: a bigger step this year and be the player they

928
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: thought they drafted when they took a chance on him.

929
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: They are very confident of that. I mean, we got

930
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: to see it right and and some of what you know,

931
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: he had some struggles last year, but some of it

932
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 1: was just asking him to play that many snaps. I

933
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: think he played almost seventy snaps one game or something

934
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 1: like that used him or whatever. Yeah, some of it

935
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: is just being comfortable in the scheme in addition to

936
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: trying to move better. And we asked him yesterday where's

937
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: your brace that he's been wearing because he had the

938
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: drop foot last year, and said, I don't know where

939
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: it is. So that's good, right to not know where

940
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: that thing is because he doesn't need it, he says,

941
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: right now, as long as he didn't walk off limping. Yeah, yeah,

942
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 1: and I think there's signs out there that he's moving around.

943
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,760
Speaker 1: But where does he fit in in this because obviously

944
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: he seems like the pass rusher on the move, almost

945
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: like a Sean Lee position, But you're not gonna move

946
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: Sean right and can't he handle the strong side? I mean, yes,

947
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: he fit in well. They've had him at middle right

948
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: now with vander Esh, I think working second team, And

949
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: you said it, I mean he can be a guy

950
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: moving forward for you as a nickel rusher. The Sam

951
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: spot just gets less overall snaps. It just depends on

952
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 1: what they do in the nickel. With two linebackers, who's

953
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: it gonna be. He's gonna be Vanderesh and Sean. Could

954
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: Jalen work in? I think you can find snaps for

955
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: all three guys. And obviously you need depth because guys

956
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: get hurt. Sean has gotten hurt in the pass and

957
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: so you need depth. But I think Vanderesh also fits

958
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: that middle linebacker spot because he's a big linebacker who

959
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: can move. What about Damien Wilson, He's still in the

960
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: mix there. Sure that's another guy. Brian mentioned him on

961
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: our show the other day. Just don't forget about him.

962
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: He's a guy that's handled the sam spot athletic, physical linebacker.

963
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: So I think it hurts losing Hitchins for sure, but

964
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: I think they feel a little bit better about it.

965
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: But Jalen's the wildcard because you know, he was at

966
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: his best last year when he was playing twenty thirty snaps.

967
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: Maybe that jumps up to thirty forty fifty, you know,

968
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: maybe maybe continue that way. Man, something that should be

969
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: scary for other teams. If you keep Shawn Lee healthy,

970
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: which if you have other options at the linebacker spot,

971
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: you keep him off the field a little bit more.

972
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 1: That gives him a better shot of being healthy. Vander

973
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: esh if he's the guy they fell in love with

974
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: and turns into what they hope he does. Jalen plays

975
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: it eighty five percent of what he was at Notre Dame.

976
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: You got a solid, solid linebacker. I mean, that's a

977
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: that's a top five linebacking crew in the NFL. If

978
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: those guys paying out like they're they're going to, I mean,

979
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: like like you hope they do. So what uh what

980
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: about defensive line? What are you see out there on

981
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: the b lines? Our guy Charles Tappers, Yeah, Malik's outlist,

982
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 1: Taper Tappers out, David Irving not practicing. I don't under

983
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: explain David Irving to me, explain it? Why, how does

984
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: this happen? Well, that's what the offseason programs for. I

985
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 1: guess I don't know when you show up apparently, yeah, right,

986
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: so he needs to get his conditioning up. Yeah, but

987
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: don't know he's he's working out on the side. He's

988
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: not practicing with the team because the staff is determined

989
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: he's not even good enough shape, right, which is mind boggling.

990
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: And he's been a guy where his weight is fluctuated

991
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: where he can play tackle for you, he can play

992
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: in for you, but if you yeah, he's gonna have

993
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: to lose some if he's gonna play defensive end for

994
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: them in this spot. I'll tell you what. All he's got.

995
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: All he has to do is stand out there for

996
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: about two hours a day. He doesn't he have to move.

997
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: For those of you that don't know, he may need

998
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: to lose it. Yeah, you're gonna play tackle for you too,

999
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: which probably that's where he played primary last year. Right,

1000
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 1: It's supposed to be one hundred and two degrees here

1001
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: this weekend, so just to let start. Let's go here.

1002
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: I'm glad you asked about days. Can we push that

1003
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: up by like a month, Let's just get Yeah, let's

1004
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: get there in June. Yeah, next week, let's go. Let's

1005
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: do that. No, as long as you don't have to

1006
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 1: stay though in August. Yeah, yeah, start paying taxes. Do

1007
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 1: I know anything else about Tapper's concussion? Like I heard

1008
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,760
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett say that that's what happened in his press conference,

1009
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,479
Speaker 1: But Rob, did you guys find out anything further about

1010
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: how it happened? I don't. I don't know exactly how

1011
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: it happened. Obviously it was an accident, Um, I don't.

1012
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: It doesn't sound like he's anything too serious. Fortunately, no

1013
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,720
Speaker 1: foul play involved. No, they're in short some T shirts

1014
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,479
Speaker 1: they do, especially on the line they're they're banking, banging

1015
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: each other around. Things can happen. Yeah, you can end

1016
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 1: up banging heads. It happens. Yeah, but it's it's unfortunate

1017
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: for him because it's like, now you draft Doran's Armstrong,

1018
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: who they like. That's Nate's pet cat. He likes him, Yeah,

1019
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: said he hadn't even really seen him practice. He's like

1020
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 1: when I just looked at him and like he's like,

1021
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: I'm watching him all a camp. That's my guy. Who's

1022
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: your guy? Who's your camp guy? So Nate, I mean,

1023
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: Nick is kind of enamored right now. You can probably

1024
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: figure out why. With with Katie Cannon. He thinks he's

1025
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: got a solid shot of making his team Baylor Homer,

1026
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: Baylor Arkansas. You know Nick's gonna be like he's making

1027
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: the team. Nick's I mean, Nate's pet cat is uh,

1028
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: Doran's armstrong? Who's your who's your pet cat? Um? Maybe

1029
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: like an underrated guy like Connor Williams isn't a good pick,

1030
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: right because no, because yeah that's too obvious. I like

1031
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: Mike White competing with Connor Rush Cooper Rush sorry for

1032
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: the backup spot at quarter broad Us really likes him.

1033
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 1: Dennie Big Yeah, just a big quarterback. Poise can spin

1034
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: it man. He threw a dime to Gallop I think

1035
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: last week over the shoulder down the sidelines, like wow,

1036
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: it's you know. And the thing I like about him

1037
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: is he really his touchdown interception ratio in college was

1038
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: really really good. Like he's smart with the ball, young

1039
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: quarterback that doesn't make mistakes. So if you're gonna be

1040
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: the backup, which he's got to win that job over Cooper.

1041
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: You gotta be able to be efficient to be a

1042
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 1: bus driver, so he but you gotta watch what about you? Who?

1043
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: Who's your pet cat? Going into camp? Well, part selfishly,

1044
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 1: I had a chance to do a story on cam

1045
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: Kelly and really engaged kid, really liked him, and I'm

1046
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: interested to see how he fits in with the kind

1047
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: of player in the kind of kind of scheme to

1048
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: CHRISTI Shard is building here and so I'm interested to

1049
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: see how he does. He's got a great story too,

1050
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: coming back from injury. And yeah, yeah, did you see

1051
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: the picture of that. I tried to avoid it. Someone

1052
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: tried to show me and I will refuse to look

1053
00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 1: at Okay to go, well, we have I believe one

1054
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: more pet cat. We didn't say, Oh yeah, Shannon, my

1055
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: pet cat, man, I don't even know. That's a great question.

1056
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 1: Some homework for you. Yeah, that's some homework I have

1057
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: to let you know on Monday. Speaking of Monday, I

1058
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: believe that's our last show until we go to camp. Whoa, no, no,

1059
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: I think we got two more. We got two Monday

1060
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: and then because mini camps the next week, I think

1061
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 1: we got one more. I thought we had two more. Well, anyway,

1062
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,919
Speaker 1: we're coming to an end here and get a little

1063
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: break and then we uh we go daily once we

1064
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: get out to camp. What have you decided when you're

1065
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 1: coming yet? None of the exact dates, but I think

1066
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: it'll be the first week or two. Better stay for

1067
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: two Straighten this out for crying out loud. You tell

1068
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: her to talk to Nate because he's gonna disown you,

1069
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: kick your ass one if you don't come out there

1070
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: for more than two days. Which on the show the Internet,

1071
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: it's the Internet. It's not a family show. Rob By

1072
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: the way, Rob is an alumnus of this show. Uh,

1073
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: he said that earlier. I didn't say that. Star man.

1074
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: It's okay. Hey, you don't listen to Rob. I don't

1075
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: listen to Kurt. We got a dysfunctional family. Yes, it's

1076
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: my attention span comes and goes. Well, Kurt, thanks for

1077
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: showing up, Rob, Thank you so much for filling in

1078
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 1: for Nate. Steven Jones, thank you for joining us for

1079
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 1: a little bit and giving us some of your valuable time. Douglas,

1080
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: thanks for doing what you do. Kent, thanks for pushing

1081
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: buttons and everyone in the studio that makes this show happen.

1082
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,399
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. We will be back on Monday at

1083
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 1: our normal time, I guess eleven o'clock on Hanging with

1084
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: the Bus has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot

1085
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.