WEBVTT - Draft Show: 2019 Kickoff & Senior Bowl Preview 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:07.520 He's the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys on 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:11.600 there war room for incenter news and draft analysis from 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:15.120 deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:21.880 in Friscope, Dallas Cowboys Select and now your hosts Dane Brugler, 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:27.479 David Hellman and Brian brought us. Sometimes it's the journey 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:33.640 that teaches you a lot about the destination. We welcome 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:35.879 you to the Draft Show. I love it when you 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:38.479 have some motivational words for us. Where did you get 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:41.879 that from? Drake? Are you serious? Serious? I didn't even 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:44.760 recognize it. Drake, and that's my guy. Drake is your guy? Dave? 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:47.920 What song? I don't know, but I just went for 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:51.919 motivational quote, Sarah, wasn't Sir Francis Drake Thomas Payne, Sir 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:54.600 Francis Drake for aud I know it's just said Drake. Yeah, 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:56.640 I'm sure if it's Sir Francis, Davis told me that 0:00:57.040 --> 0:00:59.880 sometimes it's the journey that teaches you a lot about 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:04.319 your destination. And once again we get started here with 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:06.800 the Draft Show. So excited to be back with my 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:11.360 scout Stain Brugler, David Hellman, Brian Bross. Of course, here 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:16.839 Kick Garrison, executive producing today. Gentlemen, I missed you. How's 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:19.600 the road been treating you. It's you know, there's no 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:22.120 offseason with the draft, so it's been a lot of 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:24.560 work and you know, getting us to this point. But 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:26.720 it's just I know a lot of Cowboys fans are 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:30.000 unhappy that, you know, they're not still playing football. We're 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:32.480 talking about the draft right now. Polutely, It's time to 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:34.600 get this team better. Yeah, you know, make another run 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:36.520 next year. David Hellman. They got a lot of holes 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:39.360 to fill, don't they actually a team, it's a playoff team. 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:42.640 I think this. I mean all NFL teams have holes 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:44.399 to fill, that's the way the league is designed. But 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:49.920 I think this is as healthy as this roster has 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:53.320 looked in terms of draft needs like quite sometime. Like 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:55.840 yeah they need a tight end, Yeah they might need 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:58.840 a slot receiver. Yeah, the safeties could be upgraded. Yeah, 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:02.040 the d tackles got lead against the Rams. But we're 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:06.760 not sitting here just panicking about something which has been 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:09.320 the case in a lot of years heading into the draft. 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:12.080 So that's a nice place to be. And that's before 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:15.720 free agency too, So I think this is you can 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:17.560 always make the team better. But this is a pretty 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:20.040 healthy looking roster right now in my opinion. There you go. 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:22.880 If you're new to the Draft show, we welcome you. 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:27.760 We appreciate you checking us out. It's not all about 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:29.799 the Dallas Cowboys. Even though we just had a little 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:32.560 bit of discussion about the Dallas Cowboys and what they 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:34.960 want to do, or what they might do or what 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:38.360 direction they might go. This show really is about to 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:41.520 investigate and educate. You know. We pride ourselves on our 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:44.520 ability to talk about a lot of different subjects, to 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:48.480 talk a lot about different scenarios, to talk about the players. 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:51.280 I think that's the most important thing here as we 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:54.079 go along in this journey we're talking about, is that 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:57.080 by the time we get to Nashville in April, that 0:02:57.440 --> 0:02:59.919 you have a good idea of who these players are 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:03.600 and what they're capable of. And again, we're not we 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:06.359 don't discriminate. You know, if if you're an Atlanta Falcons fan, 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:08.560 we welcome you. If you're a Tampa Bay Buccaneer fan, 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:11.920 we welcome you. If you're a fan of the Seattle Seahawks, 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:14.240 we welcome you. That's our job here is to try 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:17.000 and again let you guys know who these playoffs are. 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:19.679 We'd like to interact with you. It's very important with us. 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:23.480 We're going to be going to the Senior Bowl next week, 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:26.560 have three shows from you there. We're gonna do shows 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:29.560 from the combine. You know, we're gonna talk to people, 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:31.520 We're gonna have guests, We're gonna do everything we can 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:34.720 to kind of get you ready for this draft as 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:39.120 we start that journey again today. And there's a couple 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:40.760 of different ways you can get a hold of us. 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:43.160 We got you up on periscope. You know, I'm gonna 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:45.760 be kind of falling along with that. We've got Twitter 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:48.680 on the twenty, which David Hellman does a great job 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:51.280 of every year at Ka Hill. Thank you for coming 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:53.480 up with that idea. That's a good way to get 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:56.600 your questions in. And then we've also got the opportunity 0:03:56.600 --> 0:04:00.680 to call in eight eight eight, eight, five, two nine seven. 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:02.840 You can see it right there. You can get ahold 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:05.160 of my call for a call or two. Kent Garrison 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:08.320 is again the executive producer and he will be handling 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:10.880 those calls, so again, be nice to him. We're always 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:14.000 doing well. We're excited about the draft coming up. As 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:16.280 we get going here, and we'd like to hear your 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:20.720 calls and opinions on that. So as we get started, though, 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:26.240 Dane and David, the storylines that I kind of want 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:30.000 to focus on early here is the Kyler Murray one. 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:34.520 Who yeah, who, Kyler Murray. I want to focus on 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:36.920 that one to start this day. And I want to 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:40.520 focus on really that Kyler Murray. And you know, if 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:42.320 you said the fact that the Cowboys or we know 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:44.440 that Cowboys don't have a first round pick, but I 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:46.800 think one of the interesting storylines for that draft is 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:49.200 going to be where Kyler Murray goes, if he stays 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:50.760 in the draft. If he stays in the draft, if 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:53.080 he goes, that's gonna be the fascinating part of this 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:55.400 whole thing is is he for sure going to be 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:57.200 in his draft class? Yeah, you know, he did declare. 0:04:57.279 --> 0:05:00.279 He did declare. It was more of an arbitrary type 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:03.640 of deal because the deadline underclassman deadline, right, he had 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:06.920 to make a decision. But he has yet to say that, yes, 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:10.080 I'm giving a baseball, And you know, part of it 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:11.880 is because he has all the leverage right now, there's 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:14.520 no reason for him to do that. We'll see how 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:18.080 the Oakland A's handled that situation, because you know, obviously 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:19.839 they used the first round pick, a top ten pick 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:22.120 on Kyler Murray. Are they gonna kind of draw a 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:24.479 hard line in the sand and say you need to 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:28.000 be here for spring training starting February fifteenth? Or are 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:29.760 they gonna be a little lenient and say, okay, you 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:32.920 can leave for a week go to the Combine. It's 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:35.000 gonna be a really fascinating thing to see how it 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:38.360 plays out. But you know, people that I talked to 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:40.400 around the league, they expect Kyler Murray to be in 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:44.240 this draft class. Yeah, David Hellman, I'll add some juice. 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:48.000 It should add some juice on Dane Brugler's top fifty. 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:54.440 Kyler Murray sits currently just currently at number thirty three. Mm. Yeah, 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:58.719 so pencil him right into the Teddy Bridgewater Lamar Jackson. 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:01.359 Is that kind of where you were thinking? No? Well, 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:04.160 I mean part of it is, you know you kind 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:07.120 of park him as a potential first round pick. Sure 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:08.920 got to go from there. I got him right on 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:11.880 the edge. I've done the film study. Yeah, oh, you've 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:14.480 done a lot of study on this guy. Yes, you know, 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:17.880 it's tough because I'm I'm a big believer, and you 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:20.600 trust the tape absolutely tells you where the kind of 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:22.839 player he is tells you. The trades tell you where 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:25.120 he's going. But it's hard to trust the tape with 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:29.119 Kyler Murray because of the conference that he played in. Yeah. Sorry, 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:31.280 big twelve fans. Oh you are big, you're big on 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:33.400 killing those big twelve fans. Sorry, you know they don't 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:35.760 play defense. Yeah, and it's a conference that didn't have 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:38.520 a lot of great pass rushers. Plus he played behind 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:40.520 the best offensive line in college football, had a lot 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:42.760 of time to throw that football David Helmet literally five 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:46.560 six seven seconds. So how do you evaluate that? You know, 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:48.400 I think he's got a great arm. I think he's 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:51.640 naturally accurate. Uh, he's we know, he's an electric athlete 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:53.400 and he's a past first quarterback. He's not a guy 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:54.960 who's just going to take off when it you know, 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:57.760 he feels a hint of pressure. So how do you 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:00.520 evaluate that? And then that's not even factory the size. 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:02.840 So there's a lot of variables here, A lot of 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:04.760 layers have to peel back to figure out. But David, 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:07.600 you notice what he said though he didn't mention the 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:11.360 size until the very end. I think. I mean, in 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:14.520 this day and age, and hey, I know, Kyler Murray 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:17.480 is like short, I get it. I mean, you know 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:20.280 he's not He's not a shade under six feet like people. 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:22.880 He's a shade under like five ten problems. If he's 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:25.880 five nine and a half, that's a win. But still though, 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:28.160 in this day and age, I don't think that hangs 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:30.040 people up as much as it used to. When you've 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:32.640 seen the success that shorter quarterbacks can have, you can 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:35.280 scheme things to make it. It's one in this weekend 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:38.520 in there who Drew? I meane, Threw's like two inches 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:42.400 taller than Kyler and amazing to say, yeah, but hey, 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:45.040 learn how to throw on your tiptoes. But honestly, even 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:47.040 more so than the height, I think the build is 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:51.080 a bigger question. Yeah, oh now that Baker Mayfield, Russell Wilson, 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:55.600 Drew Brees. These guys are about twenty five pounds bigger, heavier. Yeah, stouter, 0:07:56.520 --> 0:07:59.160 Kyler Murray, you don't get hurt in the NFL. He 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:00.880 didn't take a lot of hits in the Big twelve. Yeah, 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:03.000 you know, we really don't know how he's gonna be 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:05.480 able to bounce back from hits. We saw Lamar Jackson, 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:08.520 but Lamar Jackson was more of a runner in college, 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:10.880 so he knew he had a better understanding of how 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:12.360 to take care of his body and in terms of 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:14.800 taking those hits. We don't necessarily know that with Kyler Murray, 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:17.520 and they're still some questions there. So more so, I mean, 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:21.240 obviously five nine is not ideal for a quarterback, but 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:23.120 more so than that, because look, he played behind an 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:25.920 NFL offensive line. Sure four of the guys on the 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:28.320 offensive line are going to get drafted in April, Oklahoma, 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:32.240 So he played behind an NFL quality offensive line. I'm 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:34.160 more worried about just the building and be able to 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:36.960 take hits and stay durable bounce back. He got rocked 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:38.960 a little bit in that Alabama game. Now he bounced 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:41.199 back fairly well, but still the NFL is a different 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:45.400 animal were mobility though for a quarterback. He's fast, There's 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:49.079 no question about that. The quickness, yeah, the elusiveness he 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:51.400 is really and he's really instinctive with it, yeah he is. 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:55.280 You know, he understands angles, he understands you know, where 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:58.280 the rush is coming from. Yeah, you know, he's he's 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:00.480 so good. There are times we watched his tape he 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:03.040 looks like a mini Mahomes out there with his ability 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:05.800 to get those that baseball player right, well, yeah, that 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:10.440 kind of that instinct. Yeah, different arm, growing off platform, 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:13.760 you know, the outside the pocket stuff. So yeah, it's 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:17.800 more so than ever kind of Dave was referring to. Uh, 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:21.640 the NFL is more open minded now compared to any before, 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:25.320 to have a quarterback like this and invest a premium 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:27.000 draft pick in them. Do you think do you think 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:32.880 old scouts like me are turning turning? Uh? Taking a 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:36.360 different approach about these quarterbacks, daff I would have to 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:39.480 believe that they are based on what I can't sit 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:42.760 there and throw Josh Allen and those guys out there. 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:45.440 The prototypical guy. Can't just throw that guy out there. 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:47.520 We'll just look look because these guys, these shorter guys, 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:49.920 are having success. Look at the trends. I mean, Baker 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:52.680 Mayfield was just thinking overall. Pick I know, I know 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:57.120 he's not short, but Pat Mahomes is about as unconventional 0:09:57.160 --> 0:10:00.520 a quarterback prospect as has come into the the NFL 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:04.360 in recent memory. I mean, it's so much fun. First 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:09.040 episode of the seventeen show. We were laughing about how 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:10.880 hard it was to evaluate him. Kind of what we 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:14.520 just said about Kyler too, and they thought was intangibles. 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:17.440 I think, don't you, Dane well Gon dorseing intangibles there 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:19.839 with Baker we do. We do a lot of work 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:22.760 here at the draft, we study the tape and all that, 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:25.000 but when it comes to quarterbacks, there are just certain 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:28.520 things that we're not really we don't have the access too, Like, 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:30.320 oh sure, you know, A big thing for me with 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:32.360 Pat Mahomes was how would he do in the white 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:36.520 board in terms of breaking down coverages, understanding uh, you know, 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:39.440 just understanding where to go with the football, right, you know, 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:41.320 just the mental side of it. That's a big thing 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:44.800 with Kyler Murray, you know, where is seeing his mental development? Uh, 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:47.120 you know, because there are some questions about that Lincoln 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:49.240 Riley offense and how much that'll prepare you. You know, 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:52.160 Baker Mayfield is a little bit different with where where 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:54.800 he was coming into the league. So there are certain 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:57.360 things about Kyler Murray just kind of like Pat Mahomes 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:00.320 that we're not really gonna have access to. And it's 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:02.640 gonna make a little more work on NFL teams to 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:05.280 figure them out. But at this point in the draft, 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:07.719 you know, we're just under one hundred days away. It's 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:10.839 anybody's guess. Uh, you know where he fits. I think 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:13.080 there's a good chance he goes first round. Yeah, but 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:15.560 is it? Does he crack the top twelve? Is he 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:18.640 more in the teams? There might only be three or 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:21.480 four teams that are legitimately interested in him. But where 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:23.720 are those teams picking? Where do those teams feel comfortable 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:25.360 drafting a guy like that? That's why I think the 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:28.680 first overall pick is for sale? Oh yeah, it always yeah, 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:31.080 I think I think I think Arizona has been interested 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:33.160 to getting out of there. And again it's gonna be 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:37.400 about okay about Haskins, quarterback from Ohio State, who is 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:41.080 fiftieth or fifteenth? Excuse me on on Dane's board right now, 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:43.640 right now as we speak. I gotta pull this up. 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:46.040 I gotta it's funny. Is that? I mean? Is he gout? 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:48.079 I mean? This is there? This is the thing. I 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:50.280 think it's gonna be fun about this draft. I think 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:52.480 that I think a defensive tackle could be the first 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:56.400 pick overall. Yeah, Quinn and Williams Quinny Williams. I absolutely 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:58.319 think he could be the first pick in this Church's worthy. 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:00.720 There's no question first pick in the drafts are first 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:02.840 picked by the Cardinals, first pick in the draft, because 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:04.920 if sa if someone, if you're gonna go up, you're 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:06.640 probably gonna go get You're not gonna go up for 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:10.360 a tackle. Yeah, but but this, Yeah, I know, I 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:13.320 know they just drafted Rosen, but it's hard for me 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:16.040 to believe that. You know, you're bad enough that you 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:17.600 have the number one pick in the draft and you're 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:20.280 gonna take a d tackle. This guy's rare, he's the 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:24.800 best player. Yeah, it's it's the it's the Quentin Quentin 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:28.160 Nelson argument with me, you know, yeah, that's the same 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:30.040 argument with me. How can you pay how can you 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:33.120 pick a guard? Look what that guy's done. Guards protect 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:35.840 your quarterback, though, how about guys getting after the quarterback? 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:37.880 I mean, I'd even say a defensive tackle is more 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:40.040 important than a guard, to be honest. I mean because 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:42.240 he hits it though, because he can get after Well, 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:44.720 if you can get after the quarterback, yeah, what after 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:47.559 what you saw that guy's in in Los Angeles? Do 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:51.600 for number of sacks? It's funny, Well, Okay, Aaron Donald 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:55.000 is rare, the rarest of rare. He might if you 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:57.840 redrafted it, he'd go a lot higher. But okay, how 0:12:57.840 --> 0:12:59.600 about the guy that how about the guy that's next 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:02.120 to him? He was taking number two overall, he's on 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:04.160 his third team, he has I think a lot of 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:06.440 that has to do with attitude. Okay, how about that guy? 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:08.319 All right, that guy woke up the other day against you? 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:10.760 How about old uh? How about the old Gerald McCoy 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:14.520 down in Tampa. Intangibles through the roof, like everything you 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:17.160 want in a player, perfect guy, great, pretty good argument, 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:19.520 there isn't he Has he done anything? He's played well, 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:22.800 He's played I cut myself off. Of course he's played well. 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:25.160 Of course he's a good player. Has Tampa been relevant 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:28.079 during his tenure? Well, I don't know. Yeah. No, defensive 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:30.520 tackles aren't, you know, unless you're Aaron Dalda, they're not 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:32.720 game changers. But I think that we're getting I think 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:34.760 we're getting to that point though. But in this draft, 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:37.040 in this draft, yeah, Nick Bosa to me is the 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:39.240 best player. Okay, okay, he was the best player as 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:40.719 soon as last I'm not going to go down that 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:46.199 path again. Yeah, I'm not gonna die that we love 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:49.360 the Bosa Yeah, everyone, Yeah, I'm with Nick Bosa is 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:51.640 the best player in this draft. But okay, with his 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:55.559 medical history, yeah, and an indestring wrinkle with him is 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:58.319 it's not just his injury history. Nick Bosa, you know, 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:00.720 for those don't don't follow college football, played the first 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:02.880 three games, had a core injury kind of linked with 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:06.640 his abdominal area, missed the rest of the year. Uh, 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:09.199 you know, he had an ACL a senior year in 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:11.240 high school. So he's had a few injury things that 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:14.000 the medicals at the combine will be paramount. But you 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:16.120 look at his brother Joey, who when he's on the 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:17.760 on the field, he's an all Pro, he's a pro. 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:20.040 But he's had some foot issues, He's had other issues. 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:22.200 Their their father was a first round pick in nineteen 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:24.640 eighty seven, only played two years because of injuries. Is 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:26.400 there something going on with the Bosa family in terms 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:28.880 of durability that you have to worry about. That's that's 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:30.840 a wrinkle that will be part of this. But okay, 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:33.960 back to the original point. The first overall pick Nick 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:36.320 Bosa is a top player in this draft. If he's healthy, 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:39.280 if my trainers and my doctors give me two thumbs 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:42.400 up and I don't receive a you know, big enough 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:44.920 offer at I think he Bosa is going number one 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:48.120 of the Cardinals. Yeah. But if say the medicals fail 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:50.560 and you know, we my trainers say no, you don't 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:52.480 want to touch this guy. Yeah, we'll hear that. You 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:54.840 get it ready, who you're getting that's gonna have a 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:59.240 better impact than Quinnon Williams. Yeah, I think it's one Bosa, 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:01.080 two Quinnon Llams and then I think there's a little 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:02.600 bit of a gap for the next Beston'll se him 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:04.520 to give another defensive tack. I think it's that Michigan 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:08.040 kid Gary. Yeah, I think that's that. You watch him 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:10.400 start coming up. I mean, I know Dane's got him high. 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:13.120 He's before people are gonna start people are gonna start 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:16.479 talking about him a lot more. He's polarizing. He's polarizing. 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:19.320 Is definitely polar He's no. Two hundred and eighty five pounds. 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:21.920 He moves like he's two fifth. He is crazy. It 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:24.320 plays at three at undertackle. Yeah, I'm telling you there's 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:26.560 gonna be some But he's outside. I mean, he's staying 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:28.320 on the edge where he could. Oh no, he could play. 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:30.200 I think he could. You could put him into Yeah, 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:33.200 he got the first Dan talk to walk me through. 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:36.400 It's it's gonna be a record number for juniors. Yeah, 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:39.480 coming in this job. Yeah, ten years ago, was it 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:42.360 maybe a dozen nine? It was like forty five, forty 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:45.760 nine like that. Yeah, now we're triple that. What's the 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:48.960 storyline on that? Well, you know, guys getting bad advice. 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:53.520 A lot of guys, you know, they don't really care 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:55.240 about the college scene. You know, they just want to 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:57.920 try and get the get the contracts sooner, you know. 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:00.440 So they're gonna play the odds and see what happens, 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:02.520 and you know a lot of them will end up 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:05.120 regretting it. But for some guys that'll be the right choice. 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:08.360 You know, we get the official lists from the NFL 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:12.160 here the next few days, today or tomorrow really, but 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:15.840 we're gonna be over one hundred and thirty names. It's 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:17.640 gonna be a lot of names that come out, and 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:20.600 history tells us that about you know, a little over 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:23.720 a third are going to go undrafted, and so, you know, 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:25.600 a lot of these guys are gonna regret the decision 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:27.840 they made. But you know, I'm not gonna hate on 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:30.160 any of these underclassmen are going out. I understand why 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:31.560 they're doing it. A lot of them don't have a choice, 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:35.760 you know, academic wise, family, situation wise, they really don't 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:37.520 have a choice. So I'm not gonna put too much 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:39.120 heat on them. We'll just see how it plays own. 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:42.400 I think you can probably credit and CBA for a 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:44.920 lot of that too. The way I mean the way 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:47.920 it's slotted now. I mean, obviously, the higher you go, 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:50.320 the more money you get. You look at the way 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:53.040 it's slotted, and I mean unless you're unless you're a 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:57.640 first round pick, right then you're talking a pretty similar 0:16:57.760 --> 0:16:59.840 ballpark in terms of finances. And I think a lot 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:02.200 of these guys are like, all right, cool, I'll be 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:04.760 I'll be a fifth round pick. I'll get X amount 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:07.040 of guarantees and a four year contract, and you know, 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:09.520 I'm just already working toward my next contract. I really 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:11.520 do think that's a big part of it. Like ten 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:16.000 years ago, fifteen years ago, it was a gigantic financial 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:18.600 blunder to go early and not be a first or 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:20.600 second round pick, and now it's just kind of like, 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:24.560 as long as I get drafted, it's fine, which, of course, 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:26.760 a lot of these guys aren't gonna get drafted, and 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:29.840 that's a shame. But I you know, if if you're 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:32.720 banking on being one of two hundred and fifty three picks, 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:36.400 I would I get why you bet on yourself. Basically 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:41.080 you have a deep position right now. Well, yeah, it 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:44.640 starts with the defensive line. Um, yeah, we're gonna see 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:48.080 those guys go early and often. Uh my top fifty board, 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:51.720 I think I've got seven pass rushers in the top sixteen, 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:54.800 seventeen something like that, Josh Allen being the best one, 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:59.480 but Bosa being the best on bos Josh Allen, I 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:03.200 think those probably be the boast is a consensions top guy, 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:06.800 and then Alan will probably be close to a consensus next. 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:12.080 But then you got some variety of guys. Farrell Farrell, Yeah, 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:14.960 I loved watching that tape at him against the guy 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:18.359 from Alabama Jona Jonah Williams. Yeah, what a good matchup 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:21.439 stretch Cleland Farrell played better than anybody else. Yeah, it's 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:23.479 funny because at that I mean I remember looking at 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:26.480 him last year and some a little bit early this year. Yeah, 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:29.240 that wasn't necessarily the case with him sure. The Wilkins 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:31.399 kid is another one too from Clemson. You watch all 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:35.399 those Clemson kids. Dexter Lawrence, he's he's one of the 0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:38.200 tougher ones to figure out. That is a really tough one. 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:41.640 I struggled with doing the tape on him. I really 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:43.680 did struggle on and and it has nothing to do 0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:45.360 with him having to sit out. I wish he could 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:48.600 have played the playoff games. I wish he could have played. Well, 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:50.600 tell you this, how much of that Clemson defensive line 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:54.200 suffer without him? Not? The almost played better? Yeah, So, 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:56.960 I mean, you know it's not that's not necessarily gonna 0:18:57.680 --> 0:19:00.560 you know, killed Dexter Lawrence. But I've got a lot 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:02.959 of questions on the player. Um, how about a guy 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:05.920 from Florida, Jichai Polite. I know that's a guy that 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:09.360 we're gonna be debating. Brought us, brought us is already 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:11.520 knee deep in this. Did you not like what you saw? 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:14.840