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Speaker 1: scout Stain Brugler, David Hellman, Brian Bross. Of course, here
Speaker 1: Kick Garrison, executive producing today. Gentlemen, I missed you. How's
Speaker 1: the road been treating you. It's you know, there's no
Speaker 1: offseason with the draft, so it's been a lot of
Speaker 1: work and you know, getting us to this point. But
Speaker 1: it's just I know a lot of Cowboys fans are
Speaker 1: unhappy that, you know, they're not still playing football. We're
Speaker 1: talking about the draft right now. Polutely, It's time to
Speaker 1: get this team better. Yeah, you know, make another run
Speaker 1: next year. David Hellman. They got a lot of holes
Speaker 1: to fill, don't they actually a team, it's a playoff team.
Speaker 1: I think this. I mean all NFL teams have holes
Speaker 1: to fill, that's the way the league is designed. But
Speaker 1: I think this is as healthy as this roster has
Speaker 1: looked in terms of draft needs like quite sometime. Like
Speaker 1: yeah they need a tight end, Yeah they might need
Speaker 1: a slot receiver. Yeah, the safeties could be upgraded. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the d tackles got lead against the Rams. But we're
Speaker 1: not sitting here just panicking about something which has been
Speaker 1: the case in a lot of years heading into the draft.
Speaker 1: So that's a nice place to be. And that's before
Speaker 1: free agency too, So I think this is you can
Speaker 1: always make the team better. But this is a pretty
Speaker 1: healthy looking roster right now in my opinion. There you go.
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Speaker 1: those calls, so again, be nice to him. We're always
Speaker 1: doing well. We're excited about the draft coming up. As
Speaker 1: we get going here, and we'd like to hear your
Speaker 1: calls and opinions on that. So as we get started, though,
Speaker 1: Dane and David, the storylines that I kind of want
Speaker 1: to focus on early here is the Kyler Murray one.
Speaker 1: Who yeah, who, Kyler Murray. I want to focus on
Speaker 1: that one to start this day. And I want to
Speaker 1: focus on really that Kyler Murray. And you know, if
Speaker 1: you said the fact that the Cowboys or we know
Speaker 1: that Cowboys don't have a first round pick, but I
Speaker 1: think one of the interesting storylines for that draft is
Speaker 1: going to be where Kyler Murray goes, if he stays
Speaker 1: in the draft. If he stays in the draft, if
Speaker 1: he goes, that's gonna be the fascinating part of this
Speaker 1: whole thing is is he for sure going to be
Speaker 1: in his draft class? Yeah, you know, he did declare.
Speaker 1: He did declare. It was more of an arbitrary type
Speaker 1: of deal because the deadline underclassman deadline, right, he had
Speaker 1: to make a decision. But he has yet to say that, yes,
Speaker 1: I'm giving a baseball, And you know, part of it
Speaker 1: is because he has all the leverage right now, there's
Speaker 1: no reason for him to do that. We'll see how
Speaker 1: the Oakland A's handled that situation, because you know, obviously
Speaker 1: they used the first round pick, a top ten pick
Speaker 1: on Kyler Murray. Are they gonna kind of draw a
Speaker 1: hard line in the sand and say you need to
Speaker 1: be here for spring training starting February fifteenth? Or are
Speaker 1: they gonna be a little lenient and say, okay, you
Speaker 1: can leave for a week go to the Combine. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be a really fascinating thing to see how it
Speaker 1: plays out. But you know, people that I talked to
Speaker 1: around the league, they expect Kyler Murray to be in
Speaker 1: this draft class. Yeah, David Hellman, I'll add some juice.
Speaker 1: It should add some juice on Dane Brugler's top fifty.
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray sits currently just currently at number thirty three. Mm. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so pencil him right into the Teddy Bridgewater Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: Is that kind of where you were thinking? No? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean part of it is, you know you kind
Speaker 1: of park him as a potential first round pick. Sure
Speaker 1: got to go from there. I got him right on
Speaker 1: the edge. I've done the film study. Yeah, oh, you've
Speaker 1: done a lot of study on this guy. Yes, you know,
Speaker 1: it's tough because I'm I'm a big believer, and you
Speaker 1: trust the tape absolutely tells you where the kind of
Speaker 1: player he is tells you. The trades tell you where
Speaker 1: he's going. But it's hard to trust the tape with
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray because of the conference that he played in. Yeah. Sorry,
Speaker 1: big twelve fans. Oh you are big, you're big on
Speaker 1: killing those big twelve fans. Sorry, you know they don't
Speaker 1: play defense. Yeah, and it's a conference that didn't have
Speaker 1: a lot of great pass rushers. Plus he played behind
Speaker 1: the best offensive line in college football, had a lot
Speaker 1: of time to throw that football David Helmet literally five
Speaker 1: six seven seconds. So how do you evaluate that? You know,
Speaker 1: I think he's got a great arm. I think he's
Speaker 1: naturally accurate. Uh, he's we know, he's an electric athlete
Speaker 1: and he's a past first quarterback. He's not a guy
Speaker 1: who's just going to take off when it you know,
Speaker 1: he feels a hint of pressure. So how do you
Speaker 1: evaluate that? And then that's not even factory the size.
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of variables here, A lot of
Speaker 1: layers have to peel back to figure out. But David,
Speaker 1: you notice what he said though he didn't mention the
Speaker 1: size until the very end. I think. I mean, in
Speaker 1: this day and age, and hey, I know, Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: is like short, I get it. I mean, you know
Speaker 1: he's not He's not a shade under six feet like people.
Speaker 1: He's a shade under like five ten problems. If he's
Speaker 1: five nine and a half, that's a win. But still though,
Speaker 1: in this day and age, I don't think that hangs
Speaker 1: people up as much as it used to. When you've
Speaker 1: seen the success that shorter quarterbacks can have, you can
Speaker 1: scheme things to make it. It's one in this weekend
Speaker 1: in there who Drew? I meane, Threw's like two inches
Speaker 1: taller than Kyler and amazing to say, yeah, but hey,
Speaker 1: learn how to throw on your tiptoes. But honestly, even
Speaker 1: more so than the height, I think the build is
Speaker 1: a bigger question. Yeah, oh now that Baker Mayfield, Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: Drew Brees. These guys are about twenty five pounds bigger, heavier. Yeah, stouter,
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, you don't get hurt in the NFL. He
Speaker 1: didn't take a lot of hits in the Big twelve. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, we really don't know how he's gonna be
Speaker 1: able to bounce back from hits. We saw Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 1: but Lamar Jackson was more of a runner in college,
Speaker 1: so he knew he had a better understanding of how
Speaker 1: to take care of his body and in terms of
Speaker 1: taking those hits. We don't necessarily know that with Kyler Murray,
Speaker 1: and they're still some questions there. So more so, I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously five nine is not ideal for a quarterback, but
Speaker 1: more so than that, because look, he played behind an
Speaker 1: NFL offensive line. Sure four of the guys on the
Speaker 1: offensive line are going to get drafted in April, Oklahoma,
Speaker 1: So he played behind an NFL quality offensive line. I'm
Speaker 1: more worried about just the building and be able to
Speaker 1: take hits and stay durable bounce back. He got rocked
Speaker 1: a little bit in that Alabama game. Now he bounced
Speaker 1: back fairly well, but still the NFL is a different
Speaker 1: animal were mobility though for a quarterback. He's fast, There's
Speaker 1: no question about that. The quickness, yeah, the elusiveness he
Speaker 1: is really and he's really instinctive with it, yeah he is.
Speaker 1: You know, he understands angles, he understands you know, where
Speaker 1: the rush is coming from. Yeah, you know, he's he's
Speaker 1: so good. There are times we watched his tape he
Speaker 1: looks like a mini Mahomes out there with his ability
Speaker 1: to get those that baseball player right, well, yeah, that
Speaker 1: kind of that instinct. Yeah, different arm, growing off platform,
Speaker 1: you know, the outside the pocket stuff. So yeah, it's
Speaker 1: more so than ever kind of Dave was referring to. Uh,
Speaker 1: the NFL is more open minded now compared to any before,
Speaker 1: to have a quarterback like this and invest a premium
Speaker 1: draft pick in them. Do you think do you think
Speaker 1: old scouts like me are turning turning? Uh? Taking a
Speaker 1: different approach about these quarterbacks, daff I would have to
Speaker 1: believe that they are based on what I can't sit
Speaker 1: there and throw Josh Allen and those guys out there.
Speaker 1: The prototypical guy. Can't just throw that guy out there.
Speaker 1: We'll just look look because these guys, these shorter guys,
Speaker 1: are having success. Look at the trends. I mean, Baker
Speaker 1: Mayfield was just thinking overall. Pick I know, I know
Speaker 1: he's not short, but Pat Mahomes is about as unconventional
Speaker 1: a quarterback prospect as has come into the the NFL
Speaker 1: in recent memory. I mean, it's so much fun. First
Speaker 1: episode of the seventeen show. We were laughing about how
Speaker 1: hard it was to evaluate him. Kind of what we
Speaker 1: just said about Kyler too, and they thought was intangibles.
Speaker 1: I think, don't you, Dane well Gon dorseing intangibles there
Speaker 1: with Baker we do. We do a lot of work
Speaker 1: here at the draft, we study the tape and all that,
Speaker 1: but when it comes to quarterbacks, there are just certain
Speaker 1: things that we're not really we don't have the access too, Like,
Speaker 1: oh sure, you know, A big thing for me with
Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes was how would he do in the white
Speaker 1: board in terms of breaking down coverages, understanding uh, you know,
Speaker 1: just understanding where to go with the football, right, you know,
Speaker 1: just the mental side of it. That's a big thing
Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray, you know, where is seeing his mental development? Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, because there are some questions about that Lincoln
Speaker 1: Riley offense and how much that'll prepare you. You know,
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield is a little bit different with where where
Speaker 1: he was coming into the league. So there are certain
Speaker 1: things about Kyler Murray just kind of like Pat Mahomes
Speaker 1: that we're not really gonna have access to. And it's
Speaker 1: gonna make a little more work on NFL teams to
Speaker 1: figure them out. But at this point in the draft,
Speaker 1: you know, we're just under one hundred days away. It's
Speaker 1: anybody's guess. Uh, you know where he fits. I think
Speaker 1: there's a good chance he goes first round. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: is it? Does he crack the top twelve? Is he
Speaker 1: more in the teams? There might only be three or
Speaker 1: four teams that are legitimately interested in him. But where
Speaker 1: are those teams picking? Where do those teams feel comfortable
Speaker 1: drafting a guy like that? That's why I think the
Speaker 1: first overall pick is for sale? Oh yeah, it always yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think I think Arizona has been interested
Speaker 1: to getting out of there. And again it's gonna be
Speaker 1: about okay about Haskins, quarterback from Ohio State, who is
Speaker 1: fiftieth or fifteenth? Excuse me on on Dane's board right now,
Speaker 1: right now as we speak. I gotta pull this up.
Speaker 1: I gotta it's funny. Is that? I mean? Is he gout?
Speaker 1: I mean? This is there? This is the thing. I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be fun about this draft. I think
Speaker 1: that I think a defensive tackle could be the first
Speaker 1: pick overall. Yeah, Quinn and Williams Quinny Williams. I absolutely
Speaker 1: think he could be the first pick in this Church's worthy.
Speaker 1: There's no question first pick in the drafts are first
Speaker 1: picked by the Cardinals, first pick in the draft, because
Speaker 1: if sa if someone, if you're gonna go up, you're
Speaker 1: probably gonna go get You're not gonna go up for
Speaker 1: a tackle. Yeah, but but this, Yeah, I know, I
Speaker 1: know they just drafted Rosen, but it's hard for me
Speaker 1: to believe that. You know, you're bad enough that you
Speaker 1: have the number one pick in the draft and you're
Speaker 1: gonna take a d tackle. This guy's rare, he's the
Speaker 1: best player. Yeah, it's it's the it's the Quentin Quentin
Speaker 1: Nelson argument with me, you know, yeah, that's the same
Speaker 1: argument with me. How can you pay how can you
Speaker 1: pick a guard? Look what that guy's done. Guards protect
Speaker 1: your quarterback, though, how about guys getting after the quarterback?
Speaker 1: I mean, I'd even say a defensive tackle is more
Speaker 1: important than a guard, to be honest. I mean because
Speaker 1: he hits it though, because he can get after Well,
Speaker 1: if you can get after the quarterback, yeah, what after
Speaker 1: what you saw that guy's in in Los Angeles? Do
Speaker 1: for number of sacks? It's funny, Well, Okay, Aaron Donald
Speaker 1: is rare, the rarest of rare. He might if you
Speaker 1: redrafted it, he'd go a lot higher. But okay, how
Speaker 1: about the guy that how about the guy that's next
Speaker 1: to him? He was taking number two overall, he's on
Speaker 1: his third team, he has I think a lot of
Speaker 1: that has to do with attitude. Okay, how about that guy?
Speaker 1: All right, that guy woke up the other day against you?
Speaker 1: How about old uh? How about the old Gerald McCoy
Speaker 1: down in Tampa. Intangibles through the roof, like everything you
Speaker 1: want in a player, perfect guy, great, pretty good argument,
Speaker 1: there isn't he Has he done anything? He's played well,
Speaker 1: He's played I cut myself off. Of course he's played well.
Speaker 1: Of course he's a good player. Has Tampa been relevant
Speaker 1: during his tenure? Well, I don't know. Yeah. No, defensive
Speaker 1: tackles aren't, you know, unless you're Aaron Dalda, they're not
Speaker 1: game changers. But I think that we're getting I think
Speaker 1: we're getting to that point though. But in this draft,
Speaker 1: in this draft, yeah, Nick Bosa to me is the
Speaker 1: best player. Okay, okay, he was the best player as
Speaker 1: soon as last I'm not going to go down that
Speaker 1: path again. Yeah, I'm not gonna die that we love
Speaker 1: the Bosa Yeah, everyone, Yeah, I'm with Nick Bosa is
Speaker 1: the best player in this draft. But okay, with his
Speaker 1: medical history, yeah, and an indestring wrinkle with him is
Speaker 1: it's not just his injury history. Nick Bosa, you know,
Speaker 1: for those don't don't follow college football, played the first
Speaker 1: three games, had a core injury kind of linked with
Speaker 1: his abdominal area, missed the rest of the year. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, he had an ACL a senior year in
Speaker 1: high school. So he's had a few injury things that
Speaker 1: the medicals at the combine will be paramount. But you
Speaker 1: look at his brother Joey, who when he's on the
Speaker 1: on the field, he's an all Pro, he's a pro.
Speaker 1: But he's had some foot issues, He's had other issues.
Speaker 1: Their their father was a first round pick in nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty seven, only played two years because of injuries. Is
Speaker 1: there something going on with the Bosa family in terms
Speaker 1: of durability that you have to worry about. That's that's
Speaker 1: a wrinkle that will be part of this. But okay,
Speaker 1: back to the original point. The first overall pick Nick
Speaker 1: Bosa is a top player in this draft. If he's healthy,
Speaker 1: if my trainers and my doctors give me two thumbs
Speaker 1: up and I don't receive a you know, big enough
Speaker 1: offer at I think he Bosa is going number one
Speaker 1: of the Cardinals. Yeah. But if say the medicals fail
Speaker 1: and you know, we my trainers say no, you don't
Speaker 1: want to touch this guy. Yeah, we'll hear that. You
Speaker 1: get it ready, who you're getting that's gonna have a
Speaker 1: better impact than Quinnon Williams. Yeah, I think it's one Bosa,
Speaker 1: two Quinnon Llams and then I think there's a little
Speaker 1: bit of a gap for the next Beston'll se him
Speaker 1: to give another defensive tack. I think it's that Michigan
Speaker 1: kid Gary. Yeah, I think that's that. You watch him
Speaker 1: start coming up. I mean, I know Dane's got him high.
Speaker 1: He's before people are gonna start people are gonna start
Speaker 1: talking about him a lot more. He's polarizing. He's polarizing.
Speaker 1: Is definitely polar He's no. Two hundred and eighty five pounds.
Speaker 1: He moves like he's two fifth. He is crazy. It
Speaker 1: plays at three at undertackle. Yeah, I'm telling you there's
Speaker 1: gonna be some But he's outside. I mean, he's staying
Speaker 1: on the edge where he could. Oh no, he could play.
Speaker 1: I think he could. You could put him into Yeah,
Speaker 1: he got the first Dan talk to walk me through.
Speaker 1: It's it's gonna be a record number for juniors. Yeah,
Speaker 1: coming in this job. Yeah, ten years ago, was it
Speaker 1: maybe a dozen nine? It was like forty five, forty
Speaker 1: nine like that. Yeah, now we're triple that. What's the
Speaker 1: storyline on that? Well, you know, guys getting bad advice.
Speaker 1: A lot of guys, you know, they don't really care
Speaker 1: about the college scene. You know, they just want to
Speaker 1: try and get the get the contracts sooner, you know.
Speaker 1: So they're gonna play the odds and see what happens,
Speaker 1: and you know a lot of them will end up
Speaker 1: regretting it. But for some guys that'll be the right choice.
Speaker 1: You know, we get the official lists from the NFL
Speaker 1: here the next few days, today or tomorrow really, but
Speaker 1: we're gonna be over one hundred and thirty names. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of names that come out, and
Speaker 1: history tells us that about you know, a little over
Speaker 1: a third are going to go undrafted, and so, you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys are gonna regret the decision
Speaker 1: they made. But you know, I'm not gonna hate on
Speaker 1: any of these underclassmen are going out. I understand why
Speaker 1: they're doing it. A lot of them don't have a choice,
Speaker 1: you know, academic wise, family, situation wise, they really don't
Speaker 1: have a choice. So I'm not gonna put too much
Speaker 1: heat on them. We'll just see how it plays own.
Speaker 1: I think you can probably credit and CBA for a
Speaker 1: lot of that too. The way I mean the way
Speaker 1: it's slotted now. I mean, obviously, the higher you go,
Speaker 1: the more money you get. You look at the way
Speaker 1: it's slotted, and I mean unless you're unless you're a
Speaker 1: first round pick, right then you're talking a pretty similar
Speaker 1: ballpark in terms of finances. And I think a lot
Speaker 1: of these guys are like, all right, cool, I'll be
Speaker 1: I'll be a fifth round pick. I'll get X amount
Speaker 1: of guarantees and a four year contract, and you know,
Speaker 1: I'm just already working toward my next contract. I really
Speaker 1: do think that's a big part of it. Like ten
Speaker 1: years ago, fifteen years ago, it was a gigantic financial
Speaker 1: blunder to go early and not be a first or
Speaker 1: second round pick, and now it's just kind of like,
Speaker 1: as long as I get drafted, it's fine, which, of course,
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys aren't gonna get drafted, and
Speaker 1: that's a shame. But I you know, if if you're
Speaker 1: banking on being one of two hundred and fifty three picks,
Speaker 1: I would I get why you bet on yourself. Basically
Speaker 1: you have a deep position right now. Well, yeah, it
Speaker 1: starts with the defensive line. Um, yeah, we're gonna see
Speaker 1: those guys go early and often. Uh my top fifty board,
Speaker 1: I think I've got seven pass rushers in the top sixteen,
Speaker 1: seventeen something like that, Josh Allen being the best one,
Speaker 1: but Bosa being the best on bos Josh Allen, I
Speaker 1: think those probably be the boast is a consensions top guy,
Speaker 1: and then Alan will probably be close to a consensus next.
Speaker 1: But then you got some variety of guys. Farrell Farrell, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I loved watching that tape at him against the guy
Speaker 1: from Alabama Jona Jonah Williams. Yeah, what a good matchup
Speaker 1: stretch Cleland Farrell played better than anybody else. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: funny because at that I mean I remember looking at
Speaker 1: him last year and some a little bit early this year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that wasn't necessarily the case with him sure. The Wilkins
Speaker 1: kid is another one too from Clemson. You watch all
Speaker 1: those Clemson kids. Dexter Lawrence, he's he's one of the
Speaker 1: tougher ones to figure out. That is a really tough one.
Speaker 1: I struggled with doing the tape on him. I really
Speaker 1: did struggle on and and it has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with him having to sit out. I wish he could
Speaker 1: have played the playoff games. I wish he could have played. Well,
Speaker 1: tell you this, how much of that Clemson defensive line
Speaker 1: suffer without him? Not? The almost played better? Yeah, So,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know it's not that's not necessarily gonna
Speaker 1: you know, killed Dexter Lawrence. But I've got a lot
Speaker 1: of questions on the player. Um, how about a guy
Speaker 1: from Florida, Jichai Polite. I know that's a guy that
Speaker 1: we're gonna be debating. Brought us, brought us is already
Speaker 1: knee deep in this. Did you not like what you saw?
Speaker 1: I liked the pass rusher a little bit. I thought
Speaker 1: they just ran the ball at him though. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you said at one time he was a
Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty pound guy. Yeah, he's two forty
Speaker 1: nine now. Yeah, they played him a little inside too,
Speaker 1: but he lost twenty pounds, got in shape, and became
Speaker 1: a pass rush specialist. That's this. This week has been
Speaker 1: great because like you're going, you're grinding on playoffs, play
Speaker 1: the rams. Thirty six hours after I get back, Brian's like,
Speaker 1: how do you how do you pronounced this guy's name?
Speaker 1: I look over and he's watching Florida tape. Yeah, classic, No,
Speaker 1: the pass rush. It's gonna be fun to debate the
Speaker 1: pecking order of these guys because I'm higher. I'm polite
Speaker 1: than you are, just because he's you don't have a
Speaker 1: twelfth overall? Right now? Right? Yeah? And pass rush is king.
Speaker 1: If you asked me, you asked me who I thought.
Speaker 1: I was kind of a little skitty on right. He
Speaker 1: was the first name I mentioned. So are you guys?
Speaker 1: Are you guys saying we're gonna have a polite conversation,
Speaker 1: Not at all. It's never never, not gonna be never,
Speaker 1: never polite. On the draft show, I'll tell you another position.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of noticing, offensive tackles. It's a lot better
Speaker 1: class than last year. Yeah, that offensive tackle group. Last year,
Speaker 1: I didn't feel like, you know, if Colton Miller was
Speaker 1: your number two guy. Yeah, yeah, Okay, how do you
Speaker 1: play this year? I don't even know. Not well, yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll talk to John about that. I think this year's
Speaker 1: offensive tackle group is there's not like there's not that
Speaker 1: clear cut top ten pick. Now I did we both
Speaker 1: like Jonah william Jonah Williams, but Greg Little, I'll be honest.
Speaker 1: I talking to more and more people run the league.
Speaker 1: I think it's about fifty fifty in terms of teams
Speaker 1: looking at Jonah Williams fifty percent seeing a tackle, fifty
Speaker 1: percent seeing an interior guy. Oh, I really think it's split.
Speaker 1: Do you think that? Do you think that championship game
Speaker 1: kind of hurt him a little bit? He got rocked
Speaker 1: a couple of times by Farrell. I think you saw
Speaker 1: the good, the some of the worries, and you saw
Speaker 1: the really good too, because there are a lot of
Speaker 1: times where he got rocked, but then he was able
Speaker 1: to reset. Yeah, and you went on the ground. Yeah right,
Speaker 1: use the hand strength, use the technique, us his bass strength.
Speaker 1: So I think there's a lot that you saw that
Speaker 1: you liked, but also some things that you worry about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because Farrell certainly took it to him and got him
Speaker 1: more than a few times. Uh, Greg little Cody. I
Speaker 1: love Cody Ford. Cody Ford is Cody Ford is now
Speaker 1: gonna be. You got him on your board here. You
Speaker 1: got Cody Ford on your board here, and I'm looking
Speaker 1: at it, whereas I've eleven. You got all these offensive
Speaker 1: linemen right there with each other. Right, I've got Williams
Speaker 1: little Ford. Yeah, on the on the one I have,
Speaker 1: it's fourteen. I think it's what you got him at him. Oh, oh,
Speaker 1: we have a little we're having a little uh, we're
Speaker 1: going back a little bit here. We crossed an evolving
Speaker 1: conversation Brian Danuary. It's a week old, so okay, oh
Speaker 1: we'll send me a week old list of got he's
Speaker 1: working with. I'm working off the same. But the coody
Speaker 1: Ford is h he's a grizzly bear. Plan tackle, that's
Speaker 1: what he is, and he gives you tackle guard versatility.
Speaker 1: Any chance he's over little, any chance he ends up
Speaker 1: it's the third guy. Any chance he ends up to
Speaker 1: be the first guy. Yeah, it's all on the table. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: This is I'm I'm derailing the conversation a little bit,
Speaker 1: but this is a fascinating subplot for me. Is like
Speaker 1: I feel like over the last three or four years,
Speaker 1: you've really known what to expect from the top of
Speaker 1: the first round. I mean, the Browns had the first
Speaker 1: pick for a million years. The Jags were constantly up there.
Speaker 1: It's not the case anymore. Like and not only that,
Speaker 1: not only are these some new teams. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: the Jets are there. It seems like the Jets are
Speaker 1: always up there. But a lot of new teams picking
Speaker 1: near the top of the draft, and not that many
Speaker 1: that need a quarterback, which is always something you have
Speaker 1: to I mean, Cardinals don't need a quarterback, forty nine
Speaker 1: Ers do not need one. Jets, no, Oakland maybe. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can't rule anything out with what John Group is
Speaker 1: doing out there. Yeah, Bruce arians is talking about building
Speaker 1: his offense around Jamis Winston, so I assume he don't.
Speaker 1: They don't need one. Okay, now you're all the way
Speaker 1: to do here we go six and seven seven, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and get ready get ready for a Rams eagle, try
Speaker 1: and get to the top of the board. Bit that's
Speaker 1: that's what that makes me think. That is there though
Speaker 1: I don't see, I don't know. I don't know if
Speaker 1: teams are going to be convinced enough about this quarterback group.
Speaker 1: I don't know. History has taught me that somebody is
Speaker 1: always can absolutely. History will tell us that quarterback desperation
Speaker 1: does not take a year off, right. History tells us
Speaker 1: that going back to the last twenty years, the last
Speaker 1: two decades, there's been at least one quarterback drafted in
Speaker 1: top five every year except for two y thirteen that
Speaker 1: was the EJ Manual Draft. Terrible draft class for quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: So history tells us we're going to see a quarterback
Speaker 1: in the top five, likely a trade up. But Dave
Speaker 1: Gettlman doesn't like the trade. He doesn't like the Jaguars
Speaker 1: at seven. Okay, what happens when they signed Nick Foles
Speaker 1: and you know they okay, they got to win. Now,
Speaker 1: this is all This is always going to change. Always.
Speaker 1: Did you go to Denver at ten? Yeah, they're gonna
Speaker 1: be in that conversation. But I don't think we're gonna
Speaker 1: see necessarily, uh try you know it racing up to
Speaker 1: the spot, all right, top five? Yes, I think you know,
Speaker 1: teams trying to get the three or four. Maybe you
Speaker 1: got to get ahead of the giants. But I don't
Speaker 1: know if we're gonna necessarily see the you know, three
Speaker 1: first round picks for the first overall pick this year.
Speaker 1: I just want and I don't mean any respect to
Speaker 1: Quinn and Williams. I think he's a hell of a player,
Speaker 1: but like in a year where that is the guy
Speaker 1: that might go number one, I just imagine some teams
Speaker 1: near the top of the draft might be trying to
Speaker 1: get down and rather Yeah, you know, I'd rather have
Speaker 1: I'd rather have, Uh, I'd rather have Byron Murphy and
Speaker 1: an extra pick or two than Quinnon Williams. I don't
Speaker 1: I don't think you're wrong about the teams wanting to
Speaker 1: move down. I just are you gonna get to be
Speaker 1: that you want to? Yeah, you know, I think that's
Speaker 1: more the concern here, because I don't think we're gonna
Speaker 1: see teams looking to give up multiple first round picks. Why, yeah,
Speaker 1: right if the players are there, right, Yeah, twenty fifth
Speaker 1: pick worth Amari Cooper, twenty seventh and thy seventh Hell, yes,
Speaker 1: that's I mean, I get that wrong. I don't know
Speaker 1: it's okay this picks now twenty seven? He whar's Houston?
Speaker 1: Then twenty three? That's a good question. I have the
Speaker 1: order pulled up. Maybe maybe I misread that. Okay, so
Speaker 1: the twenty seven my bad. Sorry about that misinformation on
Speaker 1: my part. Twenty seventh overall pick overall, Yes, absolutely, it's
Speaker 1: worth it, and I don't I don't know how you
Speaker 1: could debate if that wasn't. Hey, you can get some
Speaker 1: good players with the twenties. I saw Tredavious White was
Speaker 1: picked twenty seven a couple of years ago. Sure, it
Speaker 1: took him a few years, but Byron Jones is a
Speaker 1: pro bowler. Twenty seventh overall pick, you could get good
Speaker 1: three and five. It looked like a disaster, didn't it.
Speaker 1: I'm not it felt like it. It felt like an
Speaker 1: overpay at three and five, but an overpay that made sense.
Speaker 1: That's what I said at the time. I was like,
Speaker 1: this is a steep price to pay, but if he
Speaker 1: has the impact that you say he will, then it
Speaker 1: should pan out. And that's exactly what happened. And now
Speaker 1: it's actually it's an underpay and people don't want to
Speaker 1: hear that. But like, I don't even view pick twenty
Speaker 1: seven as a first round pick. Yeah, I mean, if
Speaker 1: you get if we traditionally see somewhere between eighteen and
Speaker 1: twenty names is first round grades. That's like a second
Speaker 1: round grade is which you're really a second round pick
Speaker 1: you're giving up right there? Right? Let me okay, project
Speaker 1: real quick before we go to break. Man, this thing,
Speaker 1: this show goes so damn fast. For shot. Penny was
Speaker 1: picked twenty seven last year. Okay, he was the third
Speaker 1: leading rusher on the Seahawks roster. Okay, project for me
Speaker 1: of last year, Cooper Gallop, Cedric Wilson. Like that combination
Speaker 1: there for the Cowboys or this guy which no disrespect
Speaker 1: intended to Cedric Wilson, but like this, this guy's putting
Speaker 1: Cedric Wilson in the Pro Bowl like he's ready to go.
Speaker 1: Did you like you like Cedric Wilson a little bit though,
Speaker 1: didn't you? I liked him? Yeah? As a number four?
Speaker 1: I mean I don't know, but I mean it's okay,
Speaker 1: that's a slot receiver. Yeah, if Beasley's not back and
Speaker 1: then yeah, I like that top four that's not bad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to like, remember, let's remember we talked
Speaker 1: about Cedric Wilson here, Okay, we talked about him. We
Speaker 1: did you roll with Cedric Wilson or you take a
Speaker 1: look at your you know, pick fifty eight and pick
Speaker 1: where what what's do we know what? The third round? Oh?
Speaker 1: This guy next to me, he wants to take that
Speaker 1: that that that kid from you Maska, so do I?
Speaker 1: I want him to Andy Isabella baby. And by the way,
Speaker 1: he'll be at the Senior Bowl, right yeah, and he'll
Speaker 1: be there. Yeah, he'll be He'll be the to be
Speaker 1: standing next to him holding his bag and his shoulder
Speaker 1: pads and you're you're gonna give him your keys thinking
Speaker 1: he's the valet or something. Oh here, Andy, that's I mean.
Speaker 1: I I us a hell of a player. By the way, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a hell of a play. We can talk about
Speaker 1: that later. But like I am fascinated with the thought
Speaker 1: of adding a Verbella, Dane, Katie, Kevin Turner, Jeff Cavanaugh.
Speaker 1: They beat me down in the room. Yea, you heard
Speaker 1: you heard what I said on when we were shooting
Speaker 1: these video segments we're reviewing the season. You've heard what
Speaker 1: I said yesterday? Yeah, right off. I don't really listen
Speaker 1: to what you said. Pat, thank you past four years. Yeah, Jarvis,
Speaker 1: Landry H Cooper c No, No, Tyler Locket Yah, Tyler Boyd. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like that. They're begging you to find these difference makers
Speaker 1: in the fifties and sixties, Like they're just begging you.
Speaker 1: They're there every year and they can step right in
Speaker 1: and play. Yeah, let's go, let's do that. He can
Speaker 1: make some catches. Now, we watched that Georgia game. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: fifteen catches a good Georgie. What's his what where do
Speaker 1: you where do you peg him? We're just skate thinks
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to go four fifty eight to get
Speaker 1: I think there's a good chance he goes before fifty eight.
Speaker 1: I have a third round grade on him, but I
Speaker 1: think there's a good chance he's you know, a team
Speaker 1: will like him enough to take him in the late second.
Speaker 1: Oh so you're saying that people are gonna go up,
Speaker 1: They're gonna they're gonna trapt him around early if you
Speaker 1: have a need for a his skill set. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he'll be valued over a guy like Hakim
Speaker 1: Butler or you know, Kim Butler from Iowa State, right,
Speaker 1: a lot of these other big name receivers. Isabella's gonna
Speaker 1: go before some of them because he fits the skill
Speaker 1: set of what some teams are looking for. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and by the way, and he had fifteen catches in
Speaker 1: that Georgia game, all time record. Do you know the
Speaker 1: number of players who have gone into Sanford Stadium between
Speaker 1: the hedges and it's caught fifteen passes? He's the only one. Zero. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you told me that. I listened to yes and some
Speaker 1: great think that's some great, great guys. Uh. He fits
Speaker 1: this team's needs fifty Okay, okay, how about this real
Speaker 1: quick Herb Smith junior or Andy Alabama tight end or
Speaker 1: Andy Isabella wide receiver U mass. I think if Smith
Speaker 1: is a better player, um, you know, I think he's
Speaker 1: the first chance to go in the first round. Yeah, so,
Speaker 1: I don't think. But if there's three, if there's three
Speaker 1: tight ends, yeah okay, if if if in fact, you
Speaker 1: say you had to go up, make a small move
Speaker 1: to go get a guy and you're gonna go. Does
Speaker 1: Andy Isabella or Irb Smith make more sense for this team?
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't trust this team to use a
Speaker 1: tight end properly, and I don't try a slot receiver.
Speaker 1: I don't. That's why Cole Beasley's probably well, that's what
Speaker 1: we're gonna We're gonna soup that position up. Though, we're
Speaker 1: gonna give Dak a fantastic security. Blank you say the
Speaker 1: same thing about tight end, you can that's what has
Speaker 1: a better chance to hit. How many second round tight ends?
Speaker 1: Making him he's going on history here, but how many
Speaker 1: how many slot receivers can you find later on? I mean,
Speaker 1: look at history with Cole beasonas like an undraft. But
Speaker 1: that's I don't want which I see. This is why
Speaker 1: I argued against Andy Isabelle. I'm trying. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: soup that up full. Beasley is great, Juju Smith Shuster's
Speaker 1: much better. Yeah, right right, people want the Iowa kids.
Speaker 1: Those both those Iowa kids are gonna be gone, right
Speaker 1: Lake Jarwin's going to the Pro Bowl. Iowa kids don't
Speaker 1: have to worry about which Iowa kids this tight ends Phantom.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they'll be long gone. A good players, really
Speaker 1: good first round players. Hawkinson. I'll see what if they gave,
Speaker 1: if they gave like Hawkeye helmet stickers, he his helmet
Speaker 1: would like the Ohio State guys. He pancakes. It's it's
Speaker 1: it's a I mean, he just pancakes guys. The C
Speaker 1: line tied end that could get up the field, and
Speaker 1: the clip you showed me of the block against Illinois.
Speaker 1: Remember Dane guy out past the cheerleaders. Yeah, that was bad.
Speaker 1: He had a couple of those against Nebraska. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: if two, if they both go first round, be the
Speaker 1: first time ever we've had two tight ends from the
Speaker 1: same program go first round the same year. Never happen before.
Speaker 1: Nebraska didn't do that one year. No, never have not
Speaker 1: in the same year. All right, we should probably take
Speaker 1: a break, right, Yeah, we like fifteen minutes. I'm so
Speaker 1: sorry about this. I am we just got going. When
Speaker 1: we come back, we're gonna try and take some Twitter
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Speaker 1: everybody that's that's hanging out with us today real quick
Speaker 1: before we get back. Day before hit I hit one
Speaker 1: one question off off a periscope here, Bryce Love, any
Speaker 1: update on the Stanford running back. Folks here think that
Speaker 1: this team needs a backup running back. Any update on
Speaker 1: what Bryce Love has his situation. He had the ACL
Speaker 1: tear late in the season, so realistically he's not going
Speaker 1: to work out before the draft. Um, you know, he
Speaker 1: had such a great junior year. You know, it's if
Speaker 1: he could go back and do it over again. I
Speaker 1: don't know, because he's a big He was big. He
Speaker 1: wanted to go back for school. Yeah, so I don't
Speaker 1: know even know if he would change his mind if
Speaker 1: he can go back. And you know, in hindsight, but basically,
Speaker 1: some team's gonna get a bargain in the on day
Speaker 1: three with him because he's he's damaged goods and you
Speaker 1: wonder about the durability being able to hold up. He
Speaker 1: was fun to watch play at Stanford though, question. I
Speaker 1: mean he tough. We're two thousand rushing yards. Yeah, promised me.
Speaker 1: He's gonna fall to day three. I'd be shocked if
Speaker 1: he didn't. This team, let's go. Let's do it. This
Speaker 1: team right here, Dave's get it. Tight end. No, I
Speaker 1: don't want to tight end. No, No, Andy Isabella, Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: so I want to be a bad drab. Those are
Speaker 1: two really tough v We need more picks. We need
Speaker 1: to make some trades. We don't have enough picks right now.
Speaker 1: All right, well with that, we need some more. One
Speaker 1: of my favorite segments. I love when the fans get involved.
Speaker 1: I love how David Hellman runs this drill ed k Hill,
Speaker 1: thank you as always, it is Twitter on the Twitter.
Speaker 1: We're a little late on that, but we're late. It's fine.
Speaker 1: We'll just we'll roll with it. Hop right into what
Speaker 1: do you got a good question from Louise, He says,
Speaker 1: assuming no major free agency grabs, despite my hope for
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas, Yeah, me too, what position would you consider
Speaker 1: the top need for this defense? Realistically? Who could we
Speaker 1: hope for? You're gonna look at some defensive tackles. You're
Speaker 1: gonna look at defensive you're gonna look at a linebacker,
Speaker 1: you'ren look at a safety. What direction you're gonna go into?
Speaker 1: Cornerback to me, people kind of getting on Byron Jones
Speaker 1: a little bit about iron Corner is more of a
Speaker 1: need than I think. You know, I hear the same
Speaker 1: thing all the time, tight end, wide or defensive tackle, safety,
Speaker 1: you know, I think that's a three that I hear
Speaker 1: the most. But I think corner is a bigger need
Speaker 1: than people uh kind of talk about. Especially if if
Speaker 1: Iron Jones isn't back. Yea, you know, we don't know,
Speaker 1: you know what's going on with Jordan Lewis long term?
Speaker 1: You know, where does he fit? Anthony Brown will be
Speaker 1: up until after next Yeah, that might be a difficult
Speaker 1: contract to figure out because he's been so up and down.
Speaker 1: I think corner is a good point. You can, that's true.
Speaker 1: You know, you can't have more corner or you can
Speaker 1: never have too many corners quality guys, and so you know,
Speaker 1: maybe you try to find that next Anthony Brown in
Speaker 1: the fourth or fifth round. Yeah, you're absolutely right, because
Speaker 1: if you look at the two thousand after the two
Speaker 1: thousand and twenty season, you got Collins Elliott, Cooper Jones, MALIEK. Collins,
Speaker 1: Press Scott, Anthony Brown, Charwin Rush, and Frasier. Those are
Speaker 1: all guys that are up and this draft class has
Speaker 1: an abundance of six one and taller corners. How about
Speaker 1: my guy from Vanderbilt, Hello, Chris Rashard, Joe One Williams.
Speaker 1: With Chris Chris Schard having more of an influence on
Speaker 1: this defense and the personnel, there's gonna be guys. You know,
Speaker 1: it's at the Senior Bowl. There's a lot of bigger,
Speaker 1: you know, the tall long receivers, even at the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 1: Chris Boyd from Texas, um from the kid from Penn State.
Speaker 1: I can't pronounce his name, Uh, Waru Warrier, Yeah I
Speaker 1: think it is. Yeah, I'm glad you did it because
Speaker 1: I went up from Houston. These guys are six one
Speaker 1: and taller, They've got speed. Uh, They're gonna be guys.
Speaker 1: We see next week in Mobile. We're talking some of
Speaker 1: these guys at you know, Isaiah Johnson, the Penn State
Speaker 1: kid third fourth round might fit the mold of you
Speaker 1: know what this team might be looking for outside of corner.
Speaker 1: All right, here's one for you will stick with the
Speaker 1: defense this Hey, we. We love that Murphy kid from
Speaker 1: Washlayer the way I think he's going to be the
Speaker 1: best corner. Braden says, this doesn't necessarily pertain strictly to
Speaker 1: the draft, but how about Taco Charlton's future in Dallas
Speaker 1: and and how does that affect your draft needs? Thinking
Speaker 1: that we got you got two pretty good ends in
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence and Randy Yeah, I was kind of thinking
Speaker 1: that maybe an end of the needed end, depending on
Speaker 1: what's going to happen with Lawrence. Lawrence is here. I
Speaker 1: refused to believe other it just is a long term
Speaker 1: or is a he I don't whatever this season, right
Speaker 1: I tell you I'll figure it out somewhere between. I
Speaker 1: don't we we don't need it one we that's not matter.
Speaker 1: That doesn't matter right now. Though now you guys have
Speaker 1: a better feel for this than than I do. But
Speaker 1: you know, in and out of in and out of
Speaker 1: the doghouse, it seemed like that when he's on the field,
Speaker 1: you don't see a first round pick. You know what
Speaker 1: that is not? That is not wrong. I defended the
Speaker 1: pick in twenty seventeen and and it's not panning out
Speaker 1: for me very well right now. He's still got three
Speaker 1: years well at least two maybe three years left. Um.
Speaker 1: The attitude thing is what concerns me, just in the sense.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're a healthy scratch as a first
Speaker 1: round pick in your second year, as that's just he
Speaker 1: started off well, he really did. He started off well,
Speaker 1: and then he got hurt and then and then and
Speaker 1: then he was just bad and it was just and
Speaker 1: it was just bad and and I and I to me,
Speaker 1: you know, I I have a lot of concern there.
Speaker 1: I think there needs to be if you want to
Speaker 1: talk about Ezekiel At growing up in his third year,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, this guy needs to grow up in
Speaker 1: his third year. Yeah, he needs to grow up a lot.
Speaker 1: I become more serious about playing football. I lean away
Speaker 1: from thinking that he's done in Dallas because letter you
Speaker 1: realistically get for him, and I mean, I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna cut him. No, there's no point if somebody
Speaker 1: wears all the t J. Watt stuff coming on, well,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it sucks t J. Watt was taken
Speaker 1: two picks later. I think y'all y'all said that it
Speaker 1: should be t J. Watt. Yeah, absolutely, Cowboys felt differently. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know, it's a rare still early to completely
Speaker 1: rule him out, but it is looking like a rare
Speaker 1: miss in the first round from this Their track worker
Speaker 1: in the first round has been much better than a
Speaker 1: lot of teams, So you know they're bound for a miss.
Speaker 1: But it does doesn't make it hurt any less you would.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just trying to get a bearing for
Speaker 1: how I feel about this. If somebody offered you, like
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick for him, maybe somebody that had
Speaker 1: a high grade on him, kind of um, similar to
Speaker 1: what the Cowboys did with um, what's his name, Jihad Ward? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What they what they get for him or what they
Speaker 1: give up players? Switzer? Oh yeah, Switzer? See the Switzer?
Speaker 1: No switcher? Yea Switzer? Yeah switch? They give a draft
Speaker 1: pick for Austin. Yeah, that's probably what you're taught. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're not getting You're not getting anything better than like
Speaker 1: a Day three pick for him. I got a fourth
Speaker 1: round pick. I might do that. Yeah. Um, you're just
Speaker 1: ready to move on after two years. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: not working with him every day. You know, it's hard
Speaker 1: for us to really say, you know, because the attitude
Speaker 1: is certainly part of it, and just how he goes
Speaker 1: about his business. And I don't have a definitive opinion,
Speaker 1: but to this point, you know, do I see him
Speaker 1: turning it on and living up to the first round potential. No, No,
Speaker 1: he doesn't. And this is this is the this is
Speaker 1: the trying to be patient guy, and that I'm gonna,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna ride this one more year with him.
Speaker 1: I think that. And I totally get what everybody in
Speaker 1: the room saying. I totally get that. I think that's
Speaker 1: the best option because just like I said, the alternative
Speaker 1: is just there aren't a lot of good alternatives, and
Speaker 1: it is it is disappointing. Though, Yeah there's like again,
Speaker 1: folks on periscope agree with you guys. They would take
Speaker 1: the fourth, they would move on. I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: realistically think somebody would offer you a forth. That's the
Speaker 1: thing you're not getting forth. Yeah. Yeah, so probably, And
Speaker 1: I wouldn't trade him for a seventh, Like why, I'd
Speaker 1: just hope that he comes on. So Austin says, another
Speaker 1: year goes by, and I think the Cowboys still need
Speaker 1: that Tarik Cohen type of change of pace back. He
Speaker 1: wants some names that fit the bill Oh, I got
Speaker 1: You're not alone Austin a lot. Not only do I
Speaker 1: think all of us think that, but the Cowboys clearly
Speaker 1: think that too, because they've tried to get one in
Speaker 1: Like all of the last three drafts. They wanted Donel Pumphrey.
Speaker 1: They were really intrigued by Naheim Hines. I think there
Speaker 1: was a guy in the class before that too. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Either way, Uh, they clearly are interested in that as well. Smith. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know Smith, Smith. Yeah, they I got a guy
Speaker 1: for you. Uh, Utah State. Oh, somebody say, somebody in
Speaker 1: my mentions, I thought you gonna say Utah. I thought
Speaker 1: you're gonna say the Utah guy. What's the Utah State kids?
Speaker 1: Darwin Thompson. There we go. Uh, he's there's a Trek
Speaker 1: Cohen in this draft. It's Darwin Darwin Thompson. He's as
Speaker 1: juco kid, didn't have the grades out of high school.
Speaker 1: Say his name one more time for Darwin Thompson. Darwin Thompson.
Speaker 1: Utah State went to Northeast Oklahoma, A and M. That
Speaker 1: sounds made up. It is not that does sound made up?
Speaker 1: Went there for a couple of years, then went to
Speaker 1: Utah State this past year. Uh, he was he averaged
Speaker 1: over almost seven yards per carry a he caught twenty
Speaker 1: five balls out of the backfield. He's not a power
Speaker 1: guy and he's probably five to seven one hundred ninety
Speaker 1: eight pounds. Um, you know he's not going him to
Speaker 1: be a guy that consistently run up the middle. He
Speaker 1: doesn't have that inside power. But get him out in space,
Speaker 1: get him in the screen game. Um. I think he's
Speaker 1: going to be a guy that we could see go
Speaker 1: higher than maybe we thought, just like a tret Cohen,
Speaker 1: because someone's looking for that style of player. Where do
Speaker 1: you have Zach Moss? He's not in this draft class? Hey?
Speaker 1: Did he went back to school? Went back to school?
Speaker 1: Why am I looking at players that went back to school?
Speaker 1: Enough all over the play? Is that Utah a lot?
Speaker 1: He was my number one running back in October? So
Speaker 1: oh no he Okay, he was supposed to come out,
Speaker 1: but he heard his knee in November. Okay, I had
Speaker 1: to go back to school. Okay, Hey, we've been in
Speaker 1: playoff mode for two weeks. Get okay, how about how
Speaker 1: about did Singletary go back from Florida Atlantic? No, he's
Speaker 1: in this draft? Okay, here we go. He's a top forty.
Speaker 1: Tell me about Devin Singletary from forty. He's a top
Speaker 1: forty forty. I'm out, I don't care. I thought he
Speaker 1: was more. I thought he was more like a I
Speaker 1: think he's legit. Oh he is legit, He's see I don't.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen all I haven't seen all the running backs,
Speaker 1: so I can't really gauge where he is. It's January seventeenth,
Speaker 1: Brian's okay, it's it's early, but I don't see my
Speaker 1: top four running backs changing. I think so Singletary is
Speaker 1: the top forty. Are you having your top Josh Jacobs
Speaker 1: Alabama is the number one running Yeah? That is man
Speaker 1: right there. Yeah. It's funny. When I my first rankings
Speaker 1: in December, I got killed for it. Now it seems
Speaker 1: to be, you know, common thought. But yeah, he is
Speaker 1: the number one running back in this draft. Devin Singletary
Speaker 1: is the number two running back in this Man, I
Speaker 1: haven't seen all these guys number done. Singletary definitely kid. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm not exaggerating when I say he is one of
Speaker 1: the most elusive running backs I have ever scouted. I can't,
Speaker 1: I kept saying, because who are the other who are
Speaker 1: the other two. Uh, Damien Harris the Alabama three and
Speaker 1: then David Montgomeryntgomery. Cool, we got Montgomery, What what do
Speaker 1: you have? Montgomery Iowa State the second, third round, fourth
Speaker 1: running back. I mean, I think, you know, there's a
Speaker 1: lot to like about him. I just don't think he's
Speaker 1: speaking speaking of nonpower five. Funny question from Vladimir ask
Speaker 1: about Treyvon Williams too from a Texas Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: he's six for me. I mean, he's right in that mix.
Speaker 1: He finished stronger. We saw enough of him and that
Speaker 1: was a nightmare for me. Vladimir says, who should the
Speaker 1: Cowboys draft from Boise State this year? Any prospects this year?
Speaker 1: I haven't looked at Boisey tape this year and anybody
Speaker 1: they got the quarterback Brett Ripton, the nephew of what Mark. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's my possible late round guy. You know that you
Speaker 1: bring in as a as a possible back up after that.
Speaker 1: You know, Alexander Madison, the running back, came out early.
Speaker 1: I think he's a later round guy. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: it's really not a strong group of boys kids this year.
Speaker 1: Keep in mind that they doubled up last year, so
Speaker 1: like they don't need to they don't need a draft
Speaker 1: the quota, Yeah, they got the quota. Um Man, I'm
Speaker 1: so disheartened by this Singletary. I kind of thought, he
Speaker 1: where'd you have him? That was your guy? I loved him. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: not Singletary. Moss. Oh no, Moss both. I love Moss too,
Speaker 1: and seven I can't. Are you disheartened by Singletary because yes,
Speaker 1: because he's got a second round I mean a possible
Speaker 1: you and topt top forty three. Why are you trying
Speaker 1: to draft a running back in the second round anyway? To?
Speaker 1: This kid is awesome. That's I know. I'm just looking
Speaker 1: at players. They won't use him the right way. He
Speaker 1: won't after I regret saying this, but I think he's
Speaker 1: the second coming of Lashawn McCoy. The way he can
Speaker 1: slip he's two hundred pounds and the way you can
Speaker 1: slip tackles finish. Yeah, put him on my team. I'm
Speaker 1: with you on that. I loved watching him play Grass.
Speaker 1: He was just we're way behind schedule. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I need you one more question, got one that I read.
Speaker 1: We gotta get some Senior Bowl stuff real quick, especially
Speaker 1: as an LSU guy, I want to ask but I
Speaker 1: don't think this is something we've ever talked about on
Speaker 1: the Draft show. This is gonna be a first Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: de Quan, any kicker's worth taking a look at this year?
Speaker 1: Does this steam meet a kicker? Um? Oh, we need
Speaker 1: need whatever stadium he's in. I could feel the nerves yeah,
Speaker 1: And I could feel the nerves from the star over
Speaker 1: here when we're watching the game. If you ask Jason Garrett,
Speaker 1: you would get an emphatic no no. But if you
Speaker 1: ask anybody else, I think you would say you would
Speaker 1: at least want to take a look at it. Right,
Speaker 1: and you mentioned LSU because mister Tracy, the Assumption College transfer. Uh,
Speaker 1: he kicks the ball, so line drive they go, they
Speaker 1: go through the upright. I'll see him next week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Brudon will mess him up. Is he on Gruden side?
Speaker 1: Maybe he might impress Gruden once took a kicker in
Speaker 1: the first round. He was part of that. He was
Speaker 1: still kicking. Is that is that something that you would
Speaker 1: I mean, nobody, I don't see the point in drafting kickers,
Speaker 1: but may it means that punter made a difference in Seattle.
Speaker 1: He was Yeah, he was a rare guy that should
Speaker 1: punter this one here. Oh so we're just trying to
Speaker 1: swap out all the special rom now little Yeah, so,
Speaker 1: I mean six seventh round. If you tell me that
Speaker 1: there's a guy that's definitely sure, you might need a
Speaker 1: snapper too. Oh, PE's getting a look expensive for he's
Speaker 1: a free agent to wiping out the specialist room. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll see. We've been said like all year, we've been
Speaker 1: saying like, well, other than the specialists, nobody here is
Speaker 1: younger than or older than thirty. It's about to just
Speaker 1: be period. I don't know that's that's something that I
Speaker 1: would be curious to take a look at though. Just absolutely,
Speaker 1: you're right scouting some kickers. That scotting some kickers this year.
Speaker 1: We'll let you be the kicker scout. How about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's fine, that'd be a good that'd be a good segment.
Speaker 1: It'll be kicker scout. Let's go to David Holmer first
Speaker 1: kicker scout. Okay, in the last few minutes, Dame Bruger,
Speaker 1: take the rosters north and south and kind of give
Speaker 1: us a little preview of who David Hellman and I
Speaker 1: should be looking at. I know I've got my eye
Speaker 1: on a Delaware safety Adderly. Yeah, I got my eye
Speaker 1: on him. He's um. He might be one of the
Speaker 1: best safeties in the draft. Think he is the best thief,
Speaker 1: oh more so than the Alabama brow you know, at
Speaker 1: least That's what I'm going with right now. We'll see
Speaker 1: if he makes me look he's over here. No, I
Speaker 1: mean I thought he was the best safety that I saw. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll see how he does at the at the Senior
Speaker 1: Bowl when he's step up and fight exactly here in
Speaker 1: the category, you know, but he dominated the FCS level.
Speaker 1: I think he has some corner safety versatilities. Got sorry,
Speaker 1: right a cousin a couple times removed with her Badderley
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, former Cowboy, former hacker. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: the top with Josh Allen Kentucky passed Rusher with him
Speaker 1: pulling out, I think Montest sweat the Mississippi State edge.
Speaker 1: Rusher is the top prospects. I'll take him over that
Speaker 1: Florida guy you're trying to sell me. He is scary man.
Speaker 1: SEC fans are well aware of he could do. He
Speaker 1: double digit sacks the last two years in the SEC.
Speaker 1: Eager to see way in's what he comes in at
Speaker 1: because he's he's so long. Yeah. Does he even have
Speaker 1: room to put on weight? I don't know. Yeh. Adderley
Speaker 1: is the number two guy for me. Danger. And then
Speaker 1: we get to the quarterbacks, Daniel Jones Drew Locke. Those
Speaker 1: are the top two quarterbacks. Both have a chance to
Speaker 1: go top ten, top fifteen, and it's gonna be great
Speaker 1: because they're both on the North squad being coached by
Speaker 1: quarterback nut John Gruden. There you go, so John will
Speaker 1: wear him out kind of like last year we had
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield and Josh Allen back to back. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that's good. It'll be good. Good evaluation exactly. I mean,
Speaker 1: Jim Smart a good jacket director of the of the
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. He did that on purpose. Yeah. Good. Get
Speaker 1: these guys back to back, throw after throw, compare them.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be, to me, the top storyline in the
Speaker 1: entire week to see how they do. After that, we're
Speaker 1: talking Zach Allen from edge rusher from Boston College, the
Speaker 1: tackle from Washington State. Talk about him a little bit.
Speaker 1: Andre Dillard six five to ninety, he's gonna be up
Speaker 1: these boards before we know it. On him too, I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be He's a guy that you're gonna
Speaker 1: look at in the first round. Yeah, especially when tackles
Speaker 1: get pushed up a little bit. What's his length gonna
Speaker 1: be at the way? That'll be a big step for him.
Speaker 1: Is he thirty two and three quarters? Is he posted
Speaker 1: to thirty four? That'll be a big step for him
Speaker 1: to see how he does. But I think Andre Dillard
Speaker 1: he's the top senior offensive lineman and a guy that, uh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking a lot about as a possible
Speaker 1: first round pick. How about the Northern Illinois kid, Sharpen Sharp, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he grew up in the shadow of Lambeau. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: a he's a Green Bay kid and uh went to
Speaker 1: Northern Illinois from the Mac And when he went up
Speaker 1: against Brian Burns from Florida State this year, he more
Speaker 1: than held his own. Remember that game. I do remember that.
Speaker 1: He's uh, he's I think he's my second rated senior
Speaker 1: offensive tackle. So he's gonna be in that late second
Speaker 1: early third round mix. We'll see how he does next week.
Speaker 1: So it's a pretty good group for offensive lineman. Uh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl Michael Dieter from Wisconsin. I watched him a
Speaker 1: little bit yesterday He's a guard right used to wait.
Speaker 1: The best thing about him is he has double digit
Speaker 1: starts at Wisconsin at tackle and a guard and at
Speaker 1: center starts. Yeah, so I think he gives you a
Speaker 1: little bit of versatility. Uh. And then the top center
Speaker 1: in the draft, Garrett Bradbury from See State. I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna have a big week at the Immobile and uh,
Speaker 1: he could end up being a second round pick. I
Speaker 1: feel like I appreciate that's great stuff position that really
Speaker 1: benefits from these practices feeling. I mean obviously, well, and
Speaker 1: that's where I was going his wide receiver, Yeah, Isabella,
Speaker 1: obviously we covered. I am a big fan of Deebo
Speaker 1: Samuel's game. Yeah. Um, is there anybody else that stands
Speaker 1: out to you that I should have an eye on?
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Hall from Missouri. Uh, he's, you know, legit six
Speaker 1: two two h five, but he has four three speed. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, Drew Locke has a huge arm, But there
Speaker 1: were times when Emmanuel Hall got vertical so quick that
Speaker 1: he had to wait for the ball. Wait for the ball. Yeah,
Speaker 1: He's just he can take the top off a defense. Um,
Speaker 1: and I think his underneath game matured this season, got
Speaker 1: a little more consistent finishing catches. So Emmanuel Hall to
Speaker 1: me going into Senior Bowl week, he is the top
Speaker 1: senior receiver for me. Uh Andy Isabella's two Anthony Johnson
Speaker 1: from Buffalo, and then I have Deebo Samuel uh those
Speaker 1: are the top for for me. An interesting wide receiver
Speaker 1: I'm eager to see is Jalen Hurd from Baylord. Former
Speaker 1: Tennessee running back. Yeah, went to Baylord as a transfer,
Speaker 1: played slot receiver. Basically interesting guy with his frame? Is he? Ah?
Speaker 1: H back? Is he a slot receiver? Eager to see
Speaker 1: how he how he how they use him and then
Speaker 1: how he does throughout the week. I forgot about him? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is this this Washington State quarterback? A sleeper guy? Gardner
Speaker 1: Minshew Minshew a MUSTACHEA I mean, I know it's a
Speaker 1: bit with the mustache that, but he's I mean, and
Speaker 1: why I watched the Pac twelve games sure to kind
Speaker 1: of see that he can sling around? Is he People
Speaker 1: are comparing him to the quarterback that was at USC
Speaker 1: that the Browns Kessler? Yeah, Kessler is that? I know.
Speaker 1: It's the saddest Dane has ever been during the draft.
Speaker 1: I've never been, but he's been he's better than that, right,
Speaker 1: people were comparing him to that is he? Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess, I guess I could see that. I don't.
Speaker 1: The big thing for him will be getting him out
Speaker 1: of that Washington State offense. Yeah, that's you know, quick
Speaker 1: load and fire one read predeterm Amer stuff. So getting
Speaker 1: him out of that offense, to see how he performs
Speaker 1: when he has to work through progressions more. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a great arm, he has a good arm.
Speaker 1: How will he how will he do next week? It's
Speaker 1: a really good group of quarterbacks. You know. I mentioned
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones and Drew Locke at the top. You also
Speaker 1: have Jared Stidham from Auburn, Ryan Finley from NC State,
Speaker 1: Mary Jackson from from Buffalo. So the quarterback groups really interesting.
Speaker 1: And Gardner Minshew's you know, kind of like Trace McSorley,
Speaker 1: not going to be one of the top guys we
Speaker 1: talk about, as you know, top three or four round guys,
Speaker 1: but once we get into day three, could be an
Speaker 1: interesting player. This is a funny aside, but I've got
Speaker 1: the h I have the Senior Bowl rosters pulled up
Speaker 1: on my laptop here and they got like a little
Speaker 1: banner picture of the huddle from last year. Front and
Speaker 1: center Michael Michael Gallup, which, hey, I know it's early,
Speaker 1: but the Cowboys have a tendency to take a hard
Speaker 1: look at these guys. Michael Gallup, Dat Prescott. I guarantee
Speaker 1: you I'm forgetting somebody else that it's on this team
Speaker 1: that played in this game. Recentthing Martin, Zack Martin, Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: Zach Martin, Well and yeah. And I think with even
Speaker 1: like a guy like Michael Gallup, did we really expect
Speaker 1: them to be there in the late third No, I didn't,
Speaker 1: you know, no idea. And that was one of those
Speaker 1: where as soon as the pick at fifty was made,
Speaker 1: we were like, all right, this is gonna be a
Speaker 1: long wait and that's off the board. Do the extensive
Speaker 1: work on all these Senior Bowl guys because you don't
Speaker 1: especially with one hundred and thirty some juniors coming out,
Speaker 1: it's gonna push you know, a guy like Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: coming out. That's great for the Cowboys. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: it's gonna push another guy down, So you know, you
Speaker 1: never know who might be there for your second third round.
Speaker 1: This is the game I learned about Ali Moore Pett yeah,
Speaker 1: from Hobart College. And I see right here there's a
Speaker 1: young man named Corey Ballantine from Washburn. Yeah, who's gonna
Speaker 1: be the small school guys? Is are we gonna? You know?
Speaker 1: Is is that gonna be? Or is it? Keelan DAWs
Speaker 1: from UC You see Davis, Who's gonna be the one
Speaker 1: that small school guy that all of a sudden, I'm
Speaker 1: like going, Oh, I gotta watch some I gotta watch
Speaker 1: some Hobart films. Well, we talked about the Delaware safe
Speaker 1: who he's he's away. I'll give you three small school
Speaker 1: guys who I really liking could blow up after this week.
Speaker 1: Titus Howard offensive tackle from Alabama State. Okay, they played
Speaker 1: Auburn this year and he played really well. Okay, he's
Speaker 1: a former tight end. I think he played exactly. I
Speaker 1: think he's a big time player. Um. Kaitlin Saunders defensive
Speaker 1: tackle from uh was it Western Illinois? Uh? He's big,
Speaker 1: he can move. Uh he plays with power's six two
Speaker 1: three ten Yeah, and so I think he's gonna have
Speaker 1: a big week. And then Alex Wesley from Northern Colorado
Speaker 1: speed guy, track guy. Um, but he's not just a
Speaker 1: vertical guy. He can place him underneath, you know, crossers digs,
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. So those three underclassmen, or those three,
Speaker 1: excuse me, the small school guys. I think we'll be
Speaker 1: talking about more as we leave Mobile compared to as
Speaker 1: we go into the week. What are you looking forward to,
Speaker 1: Dave in the last minute or so here about your
Speaker 1: trip to Mobile next week? I mean I kind of
Speaker 1: alluded to it right there with the Michael Gallup things like.
Speaker 1: It's just it's a really good bet that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: will have heavy interest in one of these guys to
Speaker 1: the point where they'll probably draft one. Zach Martin, Michael Gallup,
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott is the one I'll always remember. But somebody's
Speaker 1: going to stand out here that we will. You know,
Speaker 1: we're gonna cut the list down when we're talking about prospects.
Speaker 1: We're gonna cut it down to a couple of dozen
Speaker 1: guys that the Cowboys really like, and I'm curious to
Speaker 1: see who it is. Receivers always stand out, Like I said,
Speaker 1: I mean during these practices that just favors that position.
Speaker 1: So I love I love the offensive defensive lineman one
Speaker 1: on one, especially if you're telling me there's good offensive
Speaker 1: lineman here. Yeah, that's some of the great battles we
Speaker 1: saw which Aaron Donald and Zach Martin at this place,
Speaker 1: y'all were talking about the Washington State tackle offensive tackle.
Speaker 1: You talk about Corner being a sneaky need offensive tackle
Speaker 1: probably too stupe some good when Dalton Risner from Kansas State.
Speaker 1: Really good players, So a lot of good players. What
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to most is Drew lock Firs, Daniel Jones,
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks the day do Montes Sweat we mentioned earlier
Speaker 1: form Missippi State? Does he live up to the building
Speaker 1: as being the top player there? And then this year adderly, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I put him at number twenty one overall on my board,
Speaker 1: and I think he's the top safety. I'm a big
Speaker 1: believer in him. Um. I kind of got on that
Speaker 1: early back in October and I've been riding it ever since.
Speaker 1: Does he make me look like I know what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about it? Or does he have a rough week
Speaker 1: and come back to earth a little bit? So? Uh,
Speaker 1: those are the main things I'm looking forward to next week.
Speaker 1: My goal is to find five guys that I love
Speaker 1: who I can convince myself will be there at fifty
Speaker 1: eight because like I love Montes Sweat, he's terrifying, but
Speaker 1: he's long gone. Yeah, he's so long gone it's not
Speaker 1: even funny. So yeah, see, this is a great thing
Speaker 1: about the draft, and you know, we don't know what's
Speaker 1: going to happen. The fact that the Cowboys don't have
Speaker 1: a first round pick right now, that could change in
Speaker 1: the blink of an eye. I mean, you can. You
Speaker 1: can manipulate this scene to get back in the draft.
Speaker 1: Trust me, It's not gonna be one of these things
Speaker 1: you could, but you could think you could gonna happen.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, no, you have to be you have
Speaker 1: to you have to have your work done. You have
Speaker 1: to be ready. You don't know when things are gonna flip.
Speaker 1: So again, if you also have to study up and
Speaker 1: the deeper round you have to study. That's what's gonna
Speaker 1: make this trapped a lot of fun. As always, it's
Speaker 1: we're gonna try and again investigate and educate the best
Speaker 1: we can. Okay, that is all the time that we
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