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Speaker 1: David Hellman and Brian brought us. Sometimes it's the journey

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Speaker 1: have some motivational words for us. Where did you get

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Speaker 1: that from? Drake? Are you serious? Serious? I didn't even

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Speaker 1: motivational quote, Sarah, wasn't Sir Francis Drake Thomas Payne, Sir

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Speaker 1: I'm sure if it's Sir Francis, Davis told me that

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Speaker 1: sometimes it's the journey that teaches you a lot about

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Speaker 1: your destination. And once again we get started here with

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Speaker 1: the Draft Show. So excited to be back with my

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Speaker 1: scout Stain Brugler, David Hellman, Brian Bross. Of course, here

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Speaker 1: Kick Garrison, executive producing today. Gentlemen, I missed you. How's

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Speaker 1: the road been treating you. It's you know, there's no

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Speaker 1: offseason with the draft, so it's been a lot of

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Speaker 1: talking about the draft right now. Polutely, It's time to

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Speaker 1: get this team better. Yeah, you know, make another run

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Speaker 1: next year. David Hellman. They got a lot of holes

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Speaker 1: I think this. I mean all NFL teams have holes

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Speaker 1: the case in a lot of years heading into the draft.

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Speaker 1: So that's a nice place to be. And that's before

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Speaker 1: We'll just look look because these guys, these shorter guys,

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Speaker 1: never polite. On the draft show, I'll tell you another position.

422
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,600
Speaker 1: I'm kind of noticing, offensive tackles. It's a lot better

423
00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,080
Speaker 1: class than last year. Yeah, that offensive tackle group. Last year,

424
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,520
Speaker 1: I didn't feel like, you know, if Colton Miller was

425
00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:25,159
Speaker 1: your number two guy. Yeah, yeah, Okay, how do you

426
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,920
Speaker 1: play this year? I don't even know. Not well, yeah,

427
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:34,560
Speaker 1: we'll talk to John about that. I think this year's

428
00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:38,480
Speaker 1: offensive tackle group is there's not like there's not that

429
00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,920
Speaker 1: clear cut top ten pick. Now I did we both

430
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:45,280
Speaker 1: like Jonah william Jonah Williams, but Greg Little, I'll be honest.

431
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,560
Speaker 1: I talking to more and more people run the league.

432
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,440
Speaker 1: I think it's about fifty fifty in terms of teams

433
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,119
Speaker 1: looking at Jonah Williams fifty percent seeing a tackle, fifty

434
00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,879
Speaker 1: percent seeing an interior guy. Oh, I really think it's split.

435
00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,199
Speaker 1: Do you think that? Do you think that championship game

436
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,240
Speaker 1: kind of hurt him a little bit? He got rocked

437
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,200
Speaker 1: a couple of times by Farrell. I think you saw

438
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 1: the good, the some of the worries, and you saw

439
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 1: the really good too, because there are a lot of

440
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:09,880
Speaker 1: times where he got rocked, but then he was able

441
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 1: to reset. Yeah, and you went on the ground. Yeah right,

442
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 1: use the hand strength, use the technique, us his bass strength.

443
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 1: So I think there's a lot that you saw that

444
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 1: you liked, but also some things that you worry about. Yeah,

445
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,760
Speaker 1: because Farrell certainly took it to him and got him

446
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,720
Speaker 1: more than a few times. Uh, Greg little Cody. I

447
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 1: love Cody Ford. Cody Ford is Cody Ford is now

448
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,440
Speaker 1: gonna be. You got him on your board here. You

449
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 1: got Cody Ford on your board here, and I'm looking

450
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,640
Speaker 1: at it, whereas I've eleven. You got all these offensive

451
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 1: linemen right there with each other. Right, I've got Williams

452
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 1: little Ford. Yeah, on the on the one I have,

453
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:48,399
Speaker 1: it's fourteen. I think it's what you got him at him. Oh, oh,

454
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 1: we have a little we're having a little uh, we're

455
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 1: going back a little bit here. We crossed an evolving

456
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 1: conversation Brian Danuary. It's a week old, so okay, oh

457
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,160
Speaker 1: we'll send me a week old list of got he's

458
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,440
Speaker 1: working with. I'm working off the same. But the coody

459
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 1: Ford is h he's a grizzly bear. Plan tackle, that's

460
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,679
Speaker 1: what he is, and he gives you tackle guard versatility.

461
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,919
Speaker 1: Any chance he's over little, any chance he ends up

462
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 1: it's the third guy. Any chance he ends up to

463
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 1: be the first guy. Yeah, it's all on the table. Absolutely.

464
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 1: This is I'm I'm derailing the conversation a little bit,

465
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 1: but this is a fascinating subplot for me. Is like

466
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 1: I feel like over the last three or four years,

467
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 1: you've really known what to expect from the top of

468
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 1: the first round. I mean, the Browns had the first

469
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 1: pick for a million years. The Jags were constantly up there.

470
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 1: It's not the case anymore. Like and not only that,

471
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 1: not only are these some new teams. I mean, you know,

472
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,239
Speaker 1: the Jets are there. It seems like the Jets are

473
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 1: always up there. But a lot of new teams picking

474
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,880
Speaker 1: near the top of the draft, and not that many

475
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 1: that need a quarterback, which is always something you have

476
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 1: to I mean, Cardinals don't need a quarterback, forty nine

477
00:22:56,160 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 1: Ers do not need one. Jets, no, Oakland maybe. I mean,

478
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 1: you can't rule anything out with what John Group is

479
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 1: doing out there. Yeah, Bruce arians is talking about building

480
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 1: his offense around Jamis Winston, so I assume he don't.

481
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 1: They don't need one. Okay, now you're all the way

482
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 1: to do here we go six and seven seven, Yeah,

483
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 1: and get ready get ready for a Rams eagle, try

484
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: and get to the top of the board. Bit that's

485
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: that's what that makes me think. That is there though

486
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,239
Speaker 1: I don't see, I don't know. I don't know if

487
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 1: teams are going to be convinced enough about this quarterback group.

488
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. History has taught me that somebody is

489
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: always can absolutely. History will tell us that quarterback desperation

490
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: does not take a year off, right. History tells us

491
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 1: that going back to the last twenty years, the last

492
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: two decades, there's been at least one quarterback drafted in

493
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 1: top five every year except for two y thirteen that

494
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 1: was the EJ Manual Draft. Terrible draft class for quarterbacks.

495
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: So history tells us we're going to see a quarterback

496
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 1: in the top five, likely a trade up. But Dave

497
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 1: Gettlman doesn't like the trade. He doesn't like the Jaguars

498
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,439
Speaker 1: at seven. Okay, what happens when they signed Nick Foles

499
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,919
Speaker 1: and you know they okay, they got to win. Now,

500
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: this is all This is always going to change. Always.

501
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 1: Did you go to Denver at ten? Yeah, they're gonna

502
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: be in that conversation. But I don't think we're gonna

503
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 1: see necessarily, uh try you know it racing up to

504
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: the spot, all right, top five? Yes, I think you know,

505
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 1: teams trying to get the three or four. Maybe you

506
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 1: got to get ahead of the giants. But I don't

507
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 1: know if we're gonna necessarily see the you know, three

508
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 1: first round picks for the first overall pick this year.

509
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 1: I just want and I don't mean any respect to

510
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: Quinn and Williams. I think he's a hell of a player,

511
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,199
Speaker 1: but like in a year where that is the guy

512
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 1: that might go number one, I just imagine some teams

513
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: near the top of the draft might be trying to

514
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 1: get down and rather Yeah, you know, I'd rather have

515
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: I'd rather have, Uh, I'd rather have Byron Murphy and

516
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,120
Speaker 1: an extra pick or two than Quinnon Williams. I don't

517
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: I don't think you're wrong about the teams wanting to

518
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 1: move down. I just are you gonna get to be

519
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: that you want to? Yeah, you know, I think that's

520
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: more the concern here, because I don't think we're gonna

521
00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 1: see teams looking to give up multiple first round picks. Why, yeah,

522
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: right if the players are there, right, Yeah, twenty fifth

523
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 1: pick worth Amari Cooper, twenty seventh and thy seventh Hell, yes,

524
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: that's I mean, I get that wrong. I don't know

525
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: it's okay this picks now twenty seven? He whar's Houston?

526
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: Then twenty three? That's a good question. I have the

527
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 1: order pulled up. Maybe maybe I misread that. Okay, so

528
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 1: the twenty seven my bad. Sorry about that misinformation on

529
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: my part. Twenty seventh overall pick overall, Yes, absolutely, it's

530
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: worth it, and I don't I don't know how you

531
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 1: could debate if that wasn't. Hey, you can get some

532
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: good players with the twenties. I saw Tredavious White was

533
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 1: picked twenty seven a couple of years ago. Sure, it

534
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 1: took him a few years, but Byron Jones is a

535
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: pro bowler. Twenty seventh overall pick, you could get good

536
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 1: three and five. It looked like a disaster, didn't it.

537
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 1: I'm not it felt like it. It felt like an

538
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 1: overpay at three and five, but an overpay that made sense.

539
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: That's what I said at the time. I was like,

540
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: this is a steep price to pay, but if he

541
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 1: has the impact that you say he will, then it

542
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: should pan out. And that's exactly what happened. And now

543
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 1: it's actually it's an underpay and people don't want to

544
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 1: hear that. But like, I don't even view pick twenty

545
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: seven as a first round pick. Yeah, I mean, if

546
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 1: you get if we traditionally see somewhere between eighteen and

547
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 1: twenty names is first round grades. That's like a second

548
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 1: round grade is which you're really a second round pick

549
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: you're giving up right there? Right? Let me okay, project

550
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: real quick before we go to break. Man, this thing,

551
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: this show goes so damn fast. For shot. Penny was

552
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 1: picked twenty seven last year. Okay, he was the third

553
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: leading rusher on the Seahawks roster. Okay, project for me

554
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 1: of last year, Cooper Gallop, Cedric Wilson. Like that combination

555
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 1: there for the Cowboys or this guy which no disrespect

556
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: intended to Cedric Wilson, but like this, this guy's putting

557
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 1: Cedric Wilson in the Pro Bowl like he's ready to go.

558
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: Did you like you like Cedric Wilson a little bit though,

559
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: didn't you? I liked him? Yeah? As a number four?

560
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: I mean I don't know, but I mean it's okay,

561
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: that's a slot receiver. Yeah, if Beasley's not back and

562
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: then yeah, I like that top four that's not bad. Yeah,

563
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to like, remember, let's remember we talked

564
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: about Cedric Wilson here, Okay, we talked about him. We

565
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: did you roll with Cedric Wilson or you take a

566
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: look at your you know, pick fifty eight and pick

567
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 1: where what what's do we know what? The third round? Oh?

568
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 1: This guy next to me, he wants to take that

569
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: that that that kid from you Maska, so do I?

570
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: I want him to Andy Isabella baby. And by the way,

571
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 1: he'll be at the Senior Bowl, right yeah, and he'll

572
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: be there. Yeah, he'll be He'll be the to be

573
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: standing next to him holding his bag and his shoulder

574
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 1: pads and you're you're gonna give him your keys thinking

575
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: he's the valet or something. Oh here, Andy, that's I mean.

576
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: I I us a hell of a player. By the way, Yeah,

577
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: he's a hell of a play. We can talk about

578
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: that later. But like I am fascinated with the thought

579
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: of adding a Verbella, Dane, Katie, Kevin Turner, Jeff Cavanaugh.

580
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: They beat me down in the room. Yea, you heard

581
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: you heard what I said on when we were shooting

582
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: these video segments we're reviewing the season. You've heard what

583
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 1: I said yesterday? Yeah, right off. I don't really listen

584
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: to what you said. Pat, thank you past four years. Yeah, Jarvis,

585
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: Landry H Cooper c No, No, Tyler Locket Yah, Tyler Boyd. Yeah. Yeah,

586
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: like that. They're begging you to find these difference makers

587
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: in the fifties and sixties, Like they're just begging you.

588
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: They're there every year and they can step right in

589
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: and play. Yeah, let's go, let's do that. He can

590
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: make some catches. Now, we watched that Georgia game. Well, yeah,

591
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: fifteen catches a good Georgie. What's his what where do

592
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: you where do you peg him? We're just skate thinks

593
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to go four fifty eight to get

594
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 1: I think there's a good chance he goes before fifty eight.

595
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: I have a third round grade on him, but I

596
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: think there's a good chance he's you know, a team

597
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: will like him enough to take him in the late second.

598
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: Oh so you're saying that people are gonna go up,

599
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: They're gonna they're gonna trapt him around early if you

600
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: have a need for a his skill set. Yeah, yeah,

601
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: I think he'll be valued over a guy like Hakim

602
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: Butler or you know, Kim Butler from Iowa State, right,

603
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: a lot of these other big name receivers. Isabella's gonna

604
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: go before some of them because he fits the skill

605
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: set of what some teams are looking for. Um. Yeah,

606
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: and by the way, and he had fifteen catches in

607
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: that Georgia game, all time record. Do you know the

608
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: number of players who have gone into Sanford Stadium between

609
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: the hedges and it's caught fifteen passes? He's the only one. Zero. Yeah,

610
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: you told me that. I listened to yes and some

611
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: great think that's some great, great guys. Uh. He fits

612
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: this team's needs fifty Okay, okay, how about this real

613
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: quick Herb Smith junior or Andy Alabama tight end or

614
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: Andy Isabella wide receiver U mass. I think if Smith

615
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: is a better player, um, you know, I think he's

616
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: the first chance to go in the first round. Yeah, so,

617
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: I don't think. But if there's three, if there's three

618
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: tight ends, yeah okay, if if if in fact, you

619
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: say you had to go up, make a small move

620
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: to go get a guy and you're gonna go. Does

621
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: Andy Isabella or Irb Smith make more sense for this team?

622
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't trust this team to use a

623
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: tight end properly, and I don't try a slot receiver.

624
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: I don't. That's why Cole Beasley's probably well, that's what

625
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna We're gonna soup that position up. Though, we're

626
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: gonna give Dak a fantastic security. Blank you say the

627
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: same thing about tight end, you can that's what has

628
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: a better chance to hit. How many second round tight ends?

629
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: Making him he's going on history here, but how many

630
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Speaker 1: how many slot receivers can you find later on? I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's I don't want which I see. This is why

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Speaker 1: soup that up full. Beasley is great, Juju Smith Shuster's

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Speaker 1: much better. Yeah, right right, people want the Iowa kids.

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Speaker 1: Those both those Iowa kids are gonna be gone, right

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Speaker 1: Lake Jarwin's going to the Pro Bowl. Iowa kids don't

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Speaker 1: have to worry about which Iowa kids this tight ends Phantom.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they'll be long gone. A good players, really

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Speaker 1: good first round players. Hawkinson. I'll see what if they gave,

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Speaker 1: if they gave like Hawkeye helmet stickers, he his helmet

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Speaker 1: would like the Ohio State guys. He pancakes. It's it's

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Speaker 1: it's a I mean, he just pancakes guys. The C

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Speaker 1: line tied end that could get up the field, and

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Speaker 1: the clip you showed me of the block against Illinois.

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Speaker 1: Remember Dane guy out past the cheerleaders. Yeah, that was bad.

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Speaker 1: He had a couple of those against Nebraska. Yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: if two, if they both go first round, be the

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Speaker 1: first time ever we've had two tight ends from the

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Speaker 1: Nebraska didn't do that one year. No, never have not

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Speaker 1: in the same year. All right, we should probably take

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Speaker 1: into some double shows, but for right now, we're just

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Speaker 1: everybody that's that's hanging out with us today real quick

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Speaker 1: before we get back. Day before hit I hit one

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Speaker 1: one question off off a periscope here, Bryce Love, any

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Speaker 1: update on the Stanford running back. Folks here think that

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00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: this team needs a backup running back. Any update on

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Speaker 1: what Bryce Love has his situation. He had the ACL

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Speaker 1: tear late in the season, so realistically he's not going

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Speaker 1: to work out before the draft. Um, you know, he

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Speaker 1: had such a great junior year. You know, it's if

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Speaker 1: he could go back and do it over again. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, because he's a big He was big. He

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Speaker 1: wanted to go back for school. Yeah, so I don't

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Speaker 1: know even know if he would change his mind if

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Speaker 1: he can go back. And you know, in hindsight, but basically,

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Speaker 1: some team's gonna get a bargain in the on day

743
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Speaker 1: three with him because he's he's damaged goods and you

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00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: wonder about the durability being able to hold up. He

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00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: was fun to watch play at Stanford though, question. I

746
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: mean he tough. We're two thousand rushing yards. Yeah, promised me.

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00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: He's gonna fall to day three. I'd be shocked if

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Speaker 1: he didn't. This team, let's go. Let's do it. This

749
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: team right here, Dave's get it. Tight end. No, I

750
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: don't want to tight end. No, No, Andy Isabella, Yeah, right,

751
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: so I want to be a bad drab. Those are

752
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: two really tough v We need more picks. We need

753
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: to make some trades. We don't have enough picks right now.

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Speaker 1: All right, well with that, we need some more. One

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Speaker 1: of my favorite segments. I love when the fans get involved.

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Speaker 1: I love how David Hellman runs this drill ed k Hill,

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Speaker 1: thank you as always, it is Twitter on the Twitter.

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Speaker 1: We're a little late on that, but we're late. It's fine.

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Speaker 1: We'll just we'll roll with it. Hop right into what

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Speaker 1: do you got a good question from Louise, He says,

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Speaker 1: assuming no major free agency grabs, despite my hope for

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00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas, Yeah, me too, what position would you consider

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00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 1: the top need for this defense? Realistically? Who could we

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Speaker 1: hope for? You're gonna look at some defensive tackles. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna look at defensive you're gonna look at a linebacker,

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Speaker 1: you'ren look at a safety. What direction you're gonna go into?

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00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: Cornerback to me, people kind of getting on Byron Jones

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00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: a little bit about iron Corner is more of a

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Speaker 1: need than I think. You know, I hear the same

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Speaker 1: thing all the time, tight end, wide or defensive tackle, safety,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think that's a three that I hear

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Speaker 1: the most. But I think corner is a bigger need

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00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: than people uh kind of talk about. Especially if if

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Speaker 1: Iron Jones isn't back. Yea, you know, we don't know,

775
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: you know what's going on with Jordan Lewis long term?

776
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: You know, where does he fit? Anthony Brown will be

777
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 1: up until after next Yeah, that might be a difficult

778
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: contract to figure out because he's been so up and down.

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00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: I think corner is a good point. You can, that's true.

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Speaker 1: You know, you can't have more corner or you can

781
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: never have too many corners quality guys, and so you know,

782
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: maybe you try to find that next Anthony Brown in

783
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: the fourth or fifth round. Yeah, you're absolutely right, because

784
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: if you look at the two thousand after the two

785
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 1: thousand and twenty season, you got Collins Elliott, Cooper Jones, MALIEK. Collins,

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Speaker 1: Press Scott, Anthony Brown, Charwin Rush, and Frasier. Those are

787
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: all guys that are up and this draft class has

788
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: an abundance of six one and taller corners. How about

789
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Speaker 1: my guy from Vanderbilt, Hello, Chris Rashard, Joe One Williams.

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00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 1: With Chris Chris Schard having more of an influence on

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Speaker 1: this defense and the personnel, there's gonna be guys. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's at the Senior Bowl. There's a lot of bigger,

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Speaker 1: you know, the tall long receivers, even at the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Chris Boyd from Texas, um from the kid from Penn State.

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Speaker 1: I can't pronounce his name, Uh, Waru Warrier, Yeah I

796
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: think it is. Yeah, I'm glad you did it because

797
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: I went up from Houston. These guys are six one

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00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: and taller, They've got speed. Uh, They're gonna be guys.

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Speaker 1: We see next week in Mobile. We're talking some of

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Speaker 1: these guys at you know, Isaiah Johnson, the Penn State

801
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: kid third fourth round might fit the mold of you

802
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: know what this team might be looking for outside of corner.

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00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 1: All right, here's one for you will stick with the

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00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: defense this Hey, we. We love that Murphy kid from

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00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: Washlayer the way I think he's going to be the

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00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: best corner. Braden says, this doesn't necessarily pertain strictly to

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00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: the draft, but how about Taco Charlton's future in Dallas

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00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 1: and and how does that affect your draft needs? Thinking

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00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: that we got you got two pretty good ends in

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00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence and Randy Yeah, I was kind of thinking

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Speaker 1: that maybe an end of the needed end, depending on

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Speaker 1: what's going to happen with Lawrence. Lawrence is here. I

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00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: refused to believe other it just is a long term

814
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Speaker 1: or is a he I don't whatever this season, right

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Speaker 1: I tell you I'll figure it out somewhere between. I

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Speaker 1: don't we we don't need it one we that's not matter.

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00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: That doesn't matter right now. Though now you guys have

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Speaker 1: a better feel for this than than I do. But

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Speaker 1: you know, in and out of in and out of

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Speaker 1: the doghouse, it seemed like that when he's on the field,

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Speaker 1: you don't see a first round pick. You know what

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Speaker 1: that is not? That is not wrong. I defended the

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Speaker 1: pick in twenty seventeen and and it's not panning out

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Speaker 1: for me very well right now. He's still got three

825
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: years well at least two maybe three years left. Um.

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Speaker 1: The attitude thing is what concerns me, just in the sense.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're a healthy scratch as a first

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Speaker 1: round pick in your second year, as that's just he

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Speaker 1: started off well, he really did. He started off well,

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Speaker 1: and then he got hurt and then and then and

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Speaker 1: then he was just bad and it was just and

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Speaker 1: it was just bad and and I and I to me,

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Speaker 1: you know, I I have a lot of concern there.

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Speaker 1: I think there needs to be if you want to

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Speaker 1: talk about Ezekiel At growing up in his third year,

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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, this guy needs to grow up in

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Speaker 1: his third year. Yeah, he needs to grow up a lot.

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00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: I become more serious about playing football. I lean away

839
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: from thinking that he's done in Dallas because letter you

840
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: realistically get for him, and I mean, I'm not I'm

841
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,280
Speaker 1: not gonna cut him. No, there's no point if somebody

842
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 1: wears all the t J. Watt stuff coming on, well,

843
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it sucks t J. Watt was taken

844
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: two picks later. I think y'all y'all said that it

845
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: should be t J. Watt. Yeah, absolutely, Cowboys felt differently. Yeah,

846
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: and you know, it's a rare still early to completely

847
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: rule him out, but it is looking like a rare

848
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,439
Speaker 1: miss in the first round from this Their track worker

849
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: in the first round has been much better than a

850
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 1: lot of teams, So you know they're bound for a miss.

851
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: But it does doesn't make it hurt any less you would.

852
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just trying to get a bearing for

853
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: how I feel about this. If somebody offered you, like

854
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick for him, maybe somebody that had

855
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: a high grade on him, kind of um, similar to

856
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 1: what the Cowboys did with um, what's his name, Jihad Ward? Yeah?

857
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 1: What they what they get for him or what they

858
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: give up players? Switzer? Oh yeah, Switzer? See the Switzer?

859
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: No switcher? Yea Switzer? Yeah switch? They give a draft

860
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: pick for Austin. Yeah, that's probably what you're taught. I mean, yeah,

861
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: you're not getting You're not getting anything better than like

862
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 1: a Day three pick for him. I got a fourth

863
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: round pick. I might do that. Yeah. Um, you're just

864
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: ready to move on after two years. I mean, I'm

865
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: not working with him every day. You know, it's hard

866
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: for us to really say, you know, because the attitude

867
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: is certainly part of it, and just how he goes

868
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: about his business. And I don't have a definitive opinion,

869
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: but to this point, you know, do I see him

870
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: turning it on and living up to the first round potential. No, No,

871
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: he doesn't. And this is this is the this is

872
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: the trying to be patient guy, and that I'm gonna,

873
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna ride this one more year with him.

874
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: I think that. And I totally get what everybody in

875
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: the room saying. I totally get that. I think that's

876
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: the best option because just like I said, the alternative

877
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: is just there aren't a lot of good alternatives, and

878
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,479
Speaker 1: it is it is disappointing. Though, Yeah there's like again,

879
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: folks on periscope agree with you guys. They would take

880
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 1: the fourth, they would move on. I don't. I don't

881
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: realistically think somebody would offer you a forth. That's the

882
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: thing you're not getting forth. Yeah. Yeah, so probably, And

883
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,439
Speaker 1: I wouldn't trade him for a seventh, Like why, I'd

884
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: just hope that he comes on. So Austin says, another

885
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: year goes by, and I think the Cowboys still need

886
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: that Tarik Cohen type of change of pace back. He

887
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 1: wants some names that fit the bill Oh, I got

888
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: You're not alone Austin a lot. Not only do I

889
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: think all of us think that, but the Cowboys clearly

890
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: think that too, because they've tried to get one in

891
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: Like all of the last three drafts. They wanted Donel Pumphrey.

892
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: They were really intrigued by Naheim Hines. I think there

893
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: was a guy in the class before that too. Yeah.

894
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: Either way, Uh, they clearly are interested in that as well. Smith. Yeah,

895
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: you know Smith, Smith. Yeah, they I got a guy

896
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: for you. Uh, Utah State. Oh, somebody say, somebody in

897
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 1: my mentions, I thought you gonna say Utah. I thought

898
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: you're gonna say the Utah guy. What's the Utah State kids?

899
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 1: Darwin Thompson. There we go. Uh, he's there's a Trek

900
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: Cohen in this draft. It's Darwin Darwin Thompson. He's as

901
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,280
Speaker 1: juco kid, didn't have the grades out of high school.

902
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: Say his name one more time for Darwin Thompson. Darwin Thompson.

903
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: Utah State went to Northeast Oklahoma, A and M. That

904
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: sounds made up. It is not that does sound made up?

905
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: Went there for a couple of years, then went to

906
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: Utah State this past year. Uh, he was he averaged

907
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,760
Speaker 1: over almost seven yards per carry a he caught twenty

908
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 1: five balls out of the backfield. He's not a power

909
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: guy and he's probably five to seven one hundred ninety

910
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: eight pounds. Um, you know he's not going him to

911
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 1: be a guy that consistently run up the middle. He

912
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 1: doesn't have that inside power. But get him out in space,

913
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: get him in the screen game. Um. I think he's

914
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: going to be a guy that we could see go

915
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: higher than maybe we thought, just like a tret Cohen,

916
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 1: because someone's looking for that style of player. Where do

917
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: you have Zach Moss? He's not in this draft class? Hey?

918
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: Did he went back to school? Went back to school?

919
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,720
Speaker 1: Why am I looking at players that went back to school?

920
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: Enough all over the play? Is that Utah a lot?

921
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: He was my number one running back in October? So

922
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: oh no he Okay, he was supposed to come out,

923
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: but he heard his knee in November. Okay, I had

924
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: to go back to school. Okay, Hey, we've been in

925
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: playoff mode for two weeks. Get okay, how about how

926
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: about did Singletary go back from Florida Atlantic? No, he's

927
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: in this draft? Okay, here we go. He's a top forty.

928
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: Tell me about Devin Singletary from forty. He's a top

929
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: forty forty. I'm out, I don't care. I thought he

930
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 1: was more. I thought he was more like a I

931
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 1: think he's legit. Oh he is legit, He's see I don't.

932
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: I haven't seen all I haven't seen all the running backs,

933
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: so I can't really gauge where he is. It's January seventeenth,

934
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: Brian's okay, it's it's early, but I don't see my

935
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: top four running backs changing. I think so Singletary is

936
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: the top forty. Are you having your top Josh Jacobs

937
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: Alabama is the number one running Yeah? That is man

938
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 1: right there. Yeah. It's funny. When I my first rankings

939
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 1: in December, I got killed for it. Now it seems

940
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: to be, you know, common thought. But yeah, he is

941
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: the number one running back in this draft. Devin Singletary

942
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: is the number two running back in this Man, I

943
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: haven't seen all these guys number done. Singletary definitely kid. Oh,

944
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: I'm not exaggerating when I say he is one of

945
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: the most elusive running backs I have ever scouted. I can't,

946
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: I kept saying, because who are the other who are

947
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: the other two. Uh, Damien Harris the Alabama three and

948
00:45:56,080 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: then David Montgomeryntgomery. Cool, we got Montgomery, What what do

949
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: you have? Montgomery Iowa State the second, third round, fourth

950
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: running back. I mean, I think, you know, there's a

951
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: lot to like about him. I just don't think he's

952
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: speaking speaking of nonpower five. Funny question from Vladimir ask

953
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 1: about Treyvon Williams too from a Texas Yeah. I think

954
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 1: he's six for me. I mean, he's right in that mix.

955
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: He finished stronger. We saw enough of him and that

956
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 1: was a nightmare for me. Vladimir says, who should the

957
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: Cowboys draft from Boise State this year? Any prospects this year?

958
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: I haven't looked at Boisey tape this year and anybody

959
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: they got the quarterback Brett Ripton, the nephew of what Mark. Yeah,

960
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: he's my possible late round guy. You know that you

961
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: bring in as a as a possible back up after that.

962
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: You know, Alexander Madison, the running back, came out early.

963
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: I think he's a later round guy. Um. You know,

964
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: it's really not a strong group of boys kids this year.

965
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: Keep in mind that they doubled up last year, so

966
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: like they don't need to they don't need a draft

967
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: the quota, Yeah, they got the quota. Um Man, I'm

968
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: so disheartened by this Singletary. I kind of thought, he

969
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: where'd you have him? That was your guy? I loved him. No, no, no,

970
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 1: not Singletary. Moss. Oh no, Moss both. I love Moss too,

971
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: and seven I can't. Are you disheartened by Singletary because yes,

972
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: because he's got a second round I mean a possible

973
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: you and topt top forty three. Why are you trying

974
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 1: to draft a running back in the second round anyway? To?

975
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 1: This kid is awesome. That's I know. I'm just looking

976
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: at players. They won't use him the right way. He

977
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 1: won't after I regret saying this, but I think he's

978
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: the second coming of Lashawn McCoy. The way he can

979
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: slip he's two hundred pounds and the way you can

980
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: slip tackles finish. Yeah, put him on my team. I'm

981
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: with you on that. I loved watching him play Grass.

982
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: He was just we're way behind schedule. No, no, no,

983
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: I need you one more question, got one that I read.

984
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: We gotta get some Senior Bowl stuff real quick, especially

985
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: as an LSU guy, I want to ask but I

986
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: don't think this is something we've ever talked about on

987
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: the Draft show. This is gonna be a first Okay, yeah,

988
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: de Quan, any kicker's worth taking a look at this year?

989
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: Does this steam meet a kicker? Um? Oh, we need

990
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: need whatever stadium he's in. I could feel the nerves yeah,

991
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: And I could feel the nerves from the star over

992
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 1: here when we're watching the game. If you ask Jason Garrett,

993
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 1: you would get an emphatic no no. But if you

994
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: ask anybody else, I think you would say you would

995
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: at least want to take a look at it. Right,

996
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 1: and you mentioned LSU because mister Tracy, the Assumption College transfer. Uh,

997
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: he kicks the ball, so line drive they go, they

998
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 1: go through the upright. I'll see him next week. Yeah,

999
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: Brudon will mess him up. Is he on Gruden side?

1000
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: Maybe he might impress Gruden once took a kicker in

1001
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: the first round. He was part of that. He was

1002
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 1: still kicking. Is that is that something that you would

1003
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: I mean, nobody, I don't see the point in drafting kickers,

1004
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 1: but may it means that punter made a difference in Seattle.

1005
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: He was Yeah, he was a rare guy that should

1006
00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: punter this one here. Oh so we're just trying to

1007
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: swap out all the special rom now little Yeah, so,

1008
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: I mean six seventh round. If you tell me that

1009
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 1: there's a guy that's definitely sure, you might need a

1010
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: snapper too. Oh, PE's getting a look expensive for he's

1011
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: a free agent to wiping out the specialist room. Yeah,

1012
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 1: we'll see. We've been said like all year, we've been

1013
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: saying like, well, other than the specialists, nobody here is

1014
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: younger than or older than thirty. It's about to just

1015
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 1: be period. I don't know that's that's something that I

1016
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: would be curious to take a look at though. Just absolutely,

1017
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: you're right scouting some kickers. That scotting some kickers this year.

1018
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: We'll let you be the kicker scout. How about that. Yeah,

1019
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: that's fine, that'd be a good that'd be a good segment.

1020
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 1: It'll be kicker scout. Let's go to David Holmer first

1021
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: kicker scout. Okay, in the last few minutes, Dame Bruger,

1022
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: take the rosters north and south and kind of give

1023
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: us a little preview of who David Hellman and I

1024
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: should be looking at. I know I've got my eye

1025
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: on a Delaware safety Adderly. Yeah, I got my eye

1026
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: on him. He's um. He might be one of the

1027
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 1: best safeties in the draft. Think he is the best thief,

1028
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: oh more so than the Alabama brow you know, at

1029
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: least That's what I'm going with right now. We'll see

1030
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 1: if he makes me look he's over here. No, I

1031
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,879
Speaker 1: mean I thought he was the best safety that I saw. Well,

1032
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: we'll see how he does at the at the Senior

1033
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: Bowl when he's step up and fight exactly here in

1034
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: the category, you know, but he dominated the FCS level.

1035
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: I think he has some corner safety versatilities. Got sorry,

1036
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: right a cousin a couple times removed with her Badderley

1037
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, former Cowboy, former hacker. Yeah, I think

1038
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: the top with Josh Allen Kentucky passed Rusher with him

1039
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 1: pulling out, I think Montest sweat the Mississippi State edge.

1040
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: Rusher is the top prospects. I'll take him over that

1041
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 1: Florida guy you're trying to sell me. He is scary man.

1042
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: SEC fans are well aware of he could do. He

1043
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: double digit sacks the last two years in the SEC.

1044
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: Eager to see way in's what he comes in at

1045
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: because he's he's so long. Yeah. Does he even have

1046
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: room to put on weight? I don't know. Yeh. Adderley

1047
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 1: is the number two guy for me. Danger. And then

1048
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: we get to the quarterbacks, Daniel Jones Drew Locke. Those

1049
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 1: are the top two quarterbacks. Both have a chance to

1050
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 1: go top ten, top fifteen, and it's gonna be great

1051
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: because they're both on the North squad being coached by

1052
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 1: quarterback nut John Gruden. There you go, so John will

1053
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: wear him out kind of like last year we had

1054
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield and Josh Allen back to back. Yeah, no,

1055
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: that's good. It'll be good. Good evaluation exactly. I mean,

1056
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 1: Jim Smart a good jacket director of the of the

1057
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. He did that on purpose. Yeah. Good. Get

1058
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 1: these guys back to back, throw after throw, compare them.

1059
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: That's gonna be, to me, the top storyline in the

1060
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 1: entire week to see how they do. After that, we're

1061
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: talking Zach Allen from edge rusher from Boston College, the

1062
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: tackle from Washington State. Talk about him a little bit.

1063
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: Andre Dillard six five to ninety, he's gonna be up

1064
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 1: these boards before we know it. On him too, I

1065
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be He's a guy that you're gonna

1066
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: look at in the first round. Yeah, especially when tackles

1067
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 1: get pushed up a little bit. What's his length gonna

1068
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: be at the way? That'll be a big step for him.

1069
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: Is he thirty two and three quarters? Is he posted

1070
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: to thirty four? That'll be a big step for him

1071
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: to see how he does. But I think Andre Dillard

1072
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: he's the top senior offensive lineman and a guy that, uh,

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00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking a lot about as a possible

1074
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: first round pick. How about the Northern Illinois kid, Sharpen Sharp, Yeah,

1075
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: he grew up in the shadow of Lambeau. Yeah, he's

1076
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: a he's a Green Bay kid and uh went to

1077
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: Northern Illinois from the Mac And when he went up

1078
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 1: against Brian Burns from Florida State this year, he more

1079
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: than held his own. Remember that game. I do remember that.

1080
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: He's uh, he's I think he's my second rated senior

1081
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,760
Speaker 1: offensive tackle. So he's gonna be in that late second

1082
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,399
Speaker 1: early third round mix. We'll see how he does next week.

1083
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: So it's a pretty good group for offensive lineman. Uh. Yeah,

1084
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl Michael Dieter from Wisconsin. I watched him a

1085
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 1: little bit yesterday He's a guard right used to wait.

1086
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,479
Speaker 1: The best thing about him is he has double digit

1087
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: starts at Wisconsin at tackle and a guard and at

1088
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: center starts. Yeah, so I think he gives you a

1089
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: little bit of versatility. Uh. And then the top center

1090
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: in the draft, Garrett Bradbury from See State. I think

1091
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: he's gonna have a big week at the Immobile and uh,

1092
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: he could end up being a second round pick. I

1093
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: feel like I appreciate that's great stuff position that really

1094
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: benefits from these practices feeling. I mean obviously, well, and

1095
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: that's where I was going his wide receiver, Yeah, Isabella,

1096
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: obviously we covered. I am a big fan of Deebo

1097
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 1: Samuel's game. Yeah. Um, is there anybody else that stands

1098
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: out to you that I should have an eye on?

1099
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Hall from Missouri. Uh, he's, you know, legit six

1100
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: two two h five, but he has four three speed. Uh.

1101
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: You know, Drew Locke has a huge arm, But there

1102
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: were times when Emmanuel Hall got vertical so quick that

1103
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: he had to wait for the ball. Wait for the ball. Yeah,

1104
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: He's just he can take the top off a defense. Um,

1105
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: and I think his underneath game matured this season, got

1106
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: a little more consistent finishing catches. So Emmanuel Hall to

1107
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 1: me going into Senior Bowl week, he is the top

1108
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: senior receiver for me. Uh Andy Isabella's two Anthony Johnson

1109
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: from Buffalo, and then I have Deebo Samuel uh those

1110
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,240
Speaker 1: are the top for for me. An interesting wide receiver

1111
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: I'm eager to see is Jalen Hurd from Baylord. Former

1112
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: Tennessee running back. Yeah, went to Baylord as a transfer,

1113
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:13,439
Speaker 1: played slot receiver. Basically interesting guy with his frame? Is he? Ah?

1114
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: H back? Is he a slot receiver? Eager to see

1115
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 1: how he how he how they use him and then

1116
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 1: how he does throughout the week. I forgot about him? Yeah?

1117
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 1: Is this this Washington State quarterback? A sleeper guy? Gardner

1118
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: Minshew Minshew a MUSTACHEA I mean, I know it's a

1119
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: bit with the mustache that, but he's I mean, and

1120
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 1: why I watched the Pac twelve games sure to kind

1121
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: of see that he can sling around? Is he People

1122
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: are comparing him to the quarterback that was at USC

1123
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 1: that the Browns Kessler? Yeah, Kessler is that? I know.

1124
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,720
Speaker 1: It's the saddest Dane has ever been during the draft.

1125
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: I've never been, but he's been he's better than that, right,

1126
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: people were comparing him to that is he? Uh yeah,

1127
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: I guess, I guess I could see that. I don't.

1128
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 1: The big thing for him will be getting him out

1129
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: of that Washington State offense. Yeah, that's you know, quick

1130
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:01,280
Speaker 1: load and fire one read predeterm Amer stuff. So getting

1131
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: him out of that offense, to see how he performs

1132
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: when he has to work through progressions more. Um, you know,

1133
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a great arm, he has a good arm.

1134
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: How will he how will he do next week? It's

1135
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: a really good group of quarterbacks. You know. I mentioned

1136
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones and Drew Locke at the top. You also

1137
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 1: have Jared Stidham from Auburn, Ryan Finley from NC State,

1138
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: Mary Jackson from from Buffalo. So the quarterback groups really interesting.

1139
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: And Gardner Minshew's you know, kind of like Trace McSorley,

1140
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: not going to be one of the top guys we

1141
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,919
Speaker 1: talk about, as you know, top three or four round guys,

1142
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: but once we get into day three, could be an

1143
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: interesting player. This is a funny aside, but I've got

1144
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: the h I have the Senior Bowl rosters pulled up

1145
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: on my laptop here and they got like a little

1146
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: banner picture of the huddle from last year. Front and

1147
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 1: center Michael Michael Gallup, which, hey, I know it's early,

1148
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: but the Cowboys have a tendency to take a hard

1149
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: look at these guys. Michael Gallup, Dat Prescott. I guarantee

1150
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: you I'm forgetting somebody else that it's on this team

1151
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 1: that played in this game. Recentthing Martin, Zack Martin, Well, yeah,

1152
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: Zach Martin, Well and yeah. And I think with even

1153
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: like a guy like Michael Gallup, did we really expect

1154
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: them to be there in the late third No, I didn't,

1155
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: you know, no idea. And that was one of those

1156
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 1: where as soon as the pick at fifty was made,

1157
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: we were like, all right, this is gonna be a

1158
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 1: long wait and that's off the board. Do the extensive

1159
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:21,879
Speaker 1: work on all these Senior Bowl guys because you don't

1160
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 1: especially with one hundred and thirty some juniors coming out,

1161
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: it's gonna push you know, a guy like Kyler Murray

1162
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: coming out. That's great for the Cowboys. Yeah, you know,

1163
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 1: it's gonna push another guy down, So you know, you

1164
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 1: never know who might be there for your second third round.

1165
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: This is the game I learned about Ali Moore Pett yeah,

1166
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 1: from Hobart College. And I see right here there's a

1167
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: young man named Corey Ballantine from Washburn. Yeah, who's gonna

1168
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 1: be the small school guys? Is are we gonna? You know?

1169
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,240
Speaker 1: Is is that gonna be? Or is it? Keelan DAWs

1170
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: from UC You see Davis, Who's gonna be the one

1171
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 1: that small school guy that all of a sudden, I'm

1172
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,439
Speaker 1: like going, Oh, I gotta watch some I gotta watch

1173
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: some Hobart films. Well, we talked about the Delaware safe

1174
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: who he's he's away. I'll give you three small school

1175
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 1: guys who I really liking could blow up after this week.

1176
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: Titus Howard offensive tackle from Alabama State. Okay, they played

1177
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 1: Auburn this year and he played really well. Okay, he's

1178
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: a former tight end. I think he played exactly. I

1179
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: think he's a big time player. Um. Kaitlin Saunders defensive

1180
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: tackle from uh was it Western Illinois? Uh? He's big,

1181
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: he can move. Uh he plays with power's six two

1182
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: three ten Yeah, and so I think he's gonna have

1183
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 1: a big week. And then Alex Wesley from Northern Colorado

1184
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: speed guy, track guy. Um, but he's not just a

1185
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: vertical guy. He can place him underneath, you know, crossers digs,

1186
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. So those three underclassmen, or those three,

1187
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 1: excuse me, the small school guys. I think we'll be

1188
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: talking about more as we leave Mobile compared to as

1189
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: we go into the week. What are you looking forward to,

1190
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: Dave in the last minute or so here about your

1191
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: trip to Mobile next week? I mean I kind of

1192
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: alluded to it right there with the Michael Gallup things like.

1193
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: It's just it's a really good bet that the Cowboys

1194
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: will have heavy interest in one of these guys to

1195
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: the point where they'll probably draft one. Zach Martin, Michael Gallup,

1196
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott is the one I'll always remember. But somebody's

1197
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 1: going to stand out here that we will. You know,

1198
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna cut the list down when we're talking about prospects.

1199
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,479
Speaker 1: We're gonna cut it down to a couple of dozen

1200
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 1: guys that the Cowboys really like, and I'm curious to

1201
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: see who it is. Receivers always stand out, Like I said,

1202
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: I mean during these practices that just favors that position.

1203
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: So I love I love the offensive defensive lineman one

1204
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: on one, especially if you're telling me there's good offensive

1205
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: lineman here. Yeah, that's some of the great battles we

1206
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 1: saw which Aaron Donald and Zach Martin at this place,

1207
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 1: y'all were talking about the Washington State tackle offensive tackle.

1208
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: You talk about Corner being a sneaky need offensive tackle

1209
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: probably too stupe some good when Dalton Risner from Kansas State.

1210
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: Really good players, So a lot of good players. What

1211
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to most is Drew lock Firs, Daniel Jones,

1212
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks the day do Montes Sweat we mentioned earlier

1213
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:04,479
Speaker 1: form Missippi State? Does he live up to the building

1214
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: as being the top player there? And then this year adderly, Yeah,

1215
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 1: I put him at number twenty one overall on my board,

1216
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: and I think he's the top safety. I'm a big

1217
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 1: believer in him. Um. I kind of got on that

1218
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: early back in October and I've been riding it ever since.

1219
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: Does he make me look like I know what I'm

1220
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 1: talking about it? Or does he have a rough week

1221
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 1: and come back to earth a little bit? So? Uh,

1222
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: those are the main things I'm looking forward to next week.

1223
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: My goal is to find five guys that I love

1224
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 1: who I can convince myself will be there at fifty

1225
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: eight because like I love Montes Sweat, he's terrifying, but

1226
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: he's long gone. Yeah, he's so long gone it's not

1227
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: even funny. So yeah, see, this is a great thing

1228
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 1: about the draft, and you know, we don't know what's

1229
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: going to happen. The fact that the Cowboys don't have

1230
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 1: a first round pick right now, that could change in

1231
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 1: the blink of an eye. I mean, you can. You

1232
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 1: can manipulate this scene to get back in the draft.

1233
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: Trust me, It's not gonna be one of these things

1234
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,919
Speaker 1: you could, but you could think you could gonna happen.

1235
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, no, you have to be you have

1236
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 1: to you have to have your work done. You have

1237
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 1: to be ready. You don't know when things are gonna flip.

1238
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: So again, if you also have to study up and

1239
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: the deeper round you have to study. That's what's gonna

1240
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: make this trapped a lot of fun. As always, it's

1241
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna try and again investigate and educate the best

1242
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 1: we can. Okay, that is all the time that we

1243
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 1: have today. Hey, thank you guys out there for joining us.

1244
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 1: You know, if you're following us along on you know

1245
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 1: the one of the various platforms Apple all those things

1246
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 1: like that, you know, if you're going in there doing

1247
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Speaker 1: reviews and stuff on us. I'll go in there and

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Speaker 1: read that stuff if you like it. You know, rate

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Speaker 1: us do those things. We just sure appreciate that. I'd

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Speaker 1: love to hear the comments you make about the Draft show.

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Speaker 1: We'll try and make it tailored to you, because really

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Speaker 1: that's what it's for. It's for you guys to understand

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Speaker 1: this trapped a little bit better. So if you feel

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Speaker 1: rate us, give us an idea what you want, and

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Speaker 1: we'll try and make it happen. So for my Scout buddies,

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Speaker 1: Dane Burglar, for David Hellman, Kent Garrison, I'm Brian Brouss.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next Tuesday from Mobile, Alabama, the site

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Speaker 1: of the Reese's Senior Bowl. So take care,