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Speaker 1: It's the Fresh Show. This is what's trending. Okay, he

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Speaker 1: can't Yo, you got schooled by the intern.

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Speaker 2: I mean you, I got ex for this.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we already want to do sports. I shouldn't get

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Speaker 1: that text message either. Your pick six and eight? She

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Speaker 1: got six you well, yeah you got six right? You

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Speaker 1: got you wrong? Bellahamen. On the other hand, ten and four, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: who watches football religiously wants to right? So I just

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Speaker 1: thought you were good at everything. Pardon me.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look at the first week when I feel, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you're like nine and I love you one day.

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Speaker 1: And you're a Bear's head coach.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna like ibrafosy.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna fire you like but yeah, and then

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Speaker 1: we just two more games tonight, so we'll see what happened.

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Speaker 1: She could go twelve and four. Very impressive. Mm hmm,

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Speaker 1: I found your weakness. That's Jasons, I don't know, well

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Speaker 1: not even his no anyway. All right, well that's the result,

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Speaker 1: so we'll see what happens today. This is the season

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Speaker 1: where I feel like and I realized people give me

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Speaker 1: gifts too, But this is I feel like, way more

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Speaker 1: goes out that comes back again. People are very generous,

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Speaker 1: but I just like everywhere I turn, I gotta give

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Speaker 1: this person a gift, and that person a gift and

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Speaker 1: this person. Well, no, I don't even mean like mom

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Speaker 1: who you run into. I got a slick one yesterday.

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Speaker 1: This was this was pretty slick. Actually, I gotta say,

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Speaker 1: for some reason, I get a Sunday paper I don't know.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I've tried to cancel it. I actually canceled it.

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Speaker 1: I canceled it. I think it was a gift. Originally

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Speaker 1: it was someone said, yeah, because I like to read

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Speaker 1: the paper on Sunday. I don't know why, and it's

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Speaker 1: impossible to find. I like the way it smells, but

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Speaker 1: the comics and everything not. No, No, that's I'm a

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Speaker 1: And so I think I canceled it because I don't

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Speaker 1: So I was like, I don't there's a reason with

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Speaker 1: so they were paying for it. I guess it still

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Speaker 1: shows up though. So on my little like in front

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Speaker 1: of that was like a little card in an open envelope,

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Speaker 1: and the card inside was it was kind of like perpendicular,

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Speaker 1: so it wasn't like the the card was not supposed

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Speaker 1: to go in this envelope. It was like in a

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Speaker 1: bigger envelope. So I opened it and it was like

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Speaker 1: happy Holidays from your newspaper deliver person. And then I

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Speaker 1: self addressed envelope. Hell yeah, so that was I supposed

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Speaker 1: for me to put some money in it. I thought

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Speaker 1: be like a venmo like, No, that would have been

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Speaker 1: That probably would have been a good idea too. And

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Speaker 1: I realized, you know, they work hard, and I'm sure

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Speaker 1: last time I promided someone to give me a gift,

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Speaker 1: Like if I wanted to give them, I know they're

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Speaker 1: going to be there every Sunday. Could I just leave

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Speaker 1: my doorstep and say, you know, for the newspaper person,

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Speaker 1: and that because you don't ever see this person, you know,

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Speaker 1: because they come very very early in the morning. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: wonder how often it works. People feel guilty, you know,

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Speaker 1: they're like, oh God, this person's expecting a gift, and

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Speaker 1: of year where like everybody in your life you're supposed

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Speaker 1: And my thing is if you have all these people

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Speaker 1: But it was like, you're supposed to give the newspaper person.

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Speaker 1: why this comes at a perfect time. The Mega Million's

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Speaker 1: You know, it'll be fine. So no Megamillion's jackpot winning

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Speaker 1: ticket was sold for Friday's drawing, meaning that the prize

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Speaker 1: is close to reaching record levels. The new jackpot seven

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Speaker 1: everyone can have a present and I won't feel uh,

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Speaker 4: And then your nephews are asking for wild things. It's

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Speaker 4: it's out of control. Yes, I want to know eight

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Speaker 1: What is on that? And these kids are getting very creative,

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Speaker 1: very smart. It's a new era of gift giving and

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Speaker 1: kind of wish listing, and it's very smart. Like I

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Speaker 1: know parents whose kids submit to them. I've heard about

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Speaker 1: PowerPoint presentations. I've also heard about they'll send the list

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Speaker 1: with the Amazon link right there. Smart. All you got

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Speaker 1: to do is click on it. That's what my sister

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Speaker 1: did for my niece. She send me like three things

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Speaker 1: with the links in the website, all from the same store.

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Speaker 1: Boom boom, boom, bye, bye bye. Send to my house

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Speaker 1: in Arizona, where it's going to be boom boom boom,

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Speaker 1: done exactly. I shopped for Polly in four point seven seconds. Unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: What what is it that your nephews? What is the

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Speaker 1: age and what is the most ridiculous thing they're asking for?

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Speaker 3: So this is my fifteen year old nephew, Sean. He

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Speaker 3: sent screenshots of the things that he would like, and

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Speaker 3: it's very alarming because there's nothing on this list that's

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Speaker 3: less than three hundred dollars.

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Speaker 2: He was nice enough he selected two pairs of shoes.

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Speaker 3: He was nice enough to give us two options Rick

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Speaker 3: Owens shoes, which the first pair is seven hundred forty

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Speaker 1: Okay, he wants seven hundred dollars shoes, yes, and then

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Speaker 1: does he know who Frick Owen?

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Speaker 2: Jane Grown, I'm like.

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Speaker 1: I don't know who is Rick?

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Speaker 6: What the hell is Rick doing for seven hundred dollars

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Speaker 1: Where are you walking to get him some nice chucks?

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Speaker 1: Those are those are expensive conference shucks. Get him some

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Speaker 1: nice chucks for sixty bucks. You'll be very happy.

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Speaker 2: So that was the first pair of rick Owens. That

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Speaker 2: is our first option.

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Speaker 3: Our second option was the rick Owens Geo basket high

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Speaker 3: high pitch black milk boot.

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Speaker 2: And that is fifteen hundred dollars.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, fifteen serious.

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Speaker 2: He is dead serious. For screen shots.

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Speaker 3: He would like pants that are one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 3: five dollars. He wants a hoodie that is three hundred

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Speaker 2: And I just think it is wild.

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Speaker 3: High school, yes, high school, and they all, they all.

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Speaker 3: So it's like, do we not let him have it

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Speaker 1: They're gonna make fun of me if I don't have it.

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Speaker 1: If you don't have fifteen hundred dollars shoes, that means

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Speaker 1: that your your feet won't get cut off and you

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Speaker 1: won't get robbed, so that'll be fine. Get a job.

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Speaker 3: I just feel so sorry for the parents of teenagers

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Speaker 3: out here, Like I'm praying with you.

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Speaker 2: It's real.

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Speaker 1: Sixteen hundred dollars fifteen. I was offended by seven sixty

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Speaker 6: Yes, damn, but I get that job at KFC Homie Man, No,

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Speaker 6: he said, I better get another job.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: Tack my girlfraid. My girlfriend's fourth grade brother wants a

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Speaker 1: PS five with three games. Huh. My thirteen year old

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Speaker 1: cousin wants versacek My sister created a whole PDF document

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Speaker 1: that included everything she wanted for Christmas in order, with prices, links,

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Speaker 1: There's got to be something online where you can make

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Speaker 1: it so that wants it to purchase it disappears, so

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Speaker 1: that all that's lasted the last minute is the expensive stuff. Exactly. Yes,

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Speaker 1: one of my nephews is eighties are old text When

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Speaker 1: who wasn't doing jack. It was like, I need this, okay, sure, okay,

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Speaker 9: I want my parents to divorce so bad. I wanted

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Speaker 9: them to get a divorce. I could do that, like

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Speaker 9: go to two houses. I know, it's it's not great.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't great. It actually still affects me five years later,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I really wanted I got to go to

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Speaker 1: were divorced and they did it so seamlessly, like their

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Speaker 1: And then no, no, no, I get right. I had to

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Speaker 1: pack a bag every time and cry bachelor.

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Speaker 2: So like, imagine I didn't have products over there. You

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Speaker 2: take your own pin pants.

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Speaker 1: Right, survival kid? A bottle of water?

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Speaker 1: Anyway, sorry, never mind, hear you hear what's happening here?

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Speaker 1: Probably you didn't. You didn't really want your parents to

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Speaker 2: It just to stuff. I was like, oh that seems fun.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna buy me anything, my stepdad?

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Speaker 1: Okay, affect you later. Yeah, fourteen year old nothing under

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Speaker 1: It was so good, you guys. I'd learned that Blue

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Speaker 1: Order a fresh show. It's Kiki's court, alright, it's the

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Speaker 3: My name is Cassie and I've gone no contact with

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Speaker 3: I told my mom, please stop making your grief the

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Speaker 1: This isn't not that it matters, but necessarily but it

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Speaker 3: You know, her sister passed before she was However, until

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Speaker 3: So I do feel like in this instance, like you should.

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Speaker 1: You guys are the jury eight five five five three

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Speaker 9: So I think that further as through their lives, I

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Speaker 1: to quantify that the nature of the connection between the

435
00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,400
Speaker 1: bride and her sister, and there isn't one you never met,

436
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,879
Speaker 1: because this day is about the bride, it is not

437
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 1: about the mom. And the mom is, as you know,

438
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 1: projecting her her grief onto not only her living child,

439
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,720
Speaker 1: but also this day, and it seems like everything else.

440
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 1: And so that that's why I kind of wanted to understand, like,

441
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,520
Speaker 1: wait a minutes, just so we're clear here they never

442
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 1: even met, No, And so she's she clearly isn't processing

443
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:27,440
Speaker 1: this well. And it's and to your point, this, this

444
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 1: poor girl is living in the shadow of this, you know, this,

445
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:36,440
Speaker 1: this deceased young girl who she never knew. It's not

446
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,440
Speaker 1: her fault, it's not. Yeah.

447
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,159
Speaker 3: And then like the fact that the father he feels

448
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 3: the same, He agrees with Cassie, but he won't speak

449
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,640
Speaker 3: up to his wife. I mean that's even hard too.

450
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 3: So I feel like maybe there needs to be a

451
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 3: family therapy session.

452
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, with the mom.

453
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 3: That kind of happens, because God, like, I cannot imagine

454
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 3: if every one of my moments is like, oh but

455
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 3: if your.

456
00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,720
Speaker 1: Sister, you know, like your sister were here, Ye, sister,

457
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,360
Speaker 1: we're here. It's just so sad.

458
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 2: She's got to work through it. It's really sad.

459
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 1: But she has to work through it the mom does. Man, Yeah, right,

460
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 1: because it's like everything you do, it's like you don't

461
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,959
Speaker 1: amount to this this figure of this person who never

462
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 1: got to live. Right, But you are living and you

463
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,920
Speaker 1: are here and you're able to fulfill you know, sort

464
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 1: of this role. But it's like it's not good enough,

465
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 1: right because because this other child's not there.

466
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 6: Man, that's really hard. The mom props are having another

467
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 6: child after losing a child. That's got to be super tough.

468
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like to make the decision to have another child,

469
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 1: but to have that you're overshadowing that child. Keep putting

470
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 1: us on the living, the living child, and now look

471
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,920
Speaker 1: at what's havening. She stands to lose her living child too,

472
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 1: because this kid can't get out from under the other one. Yeah.

473
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,120
Speaker 1: I mean there's there's definitely some grieving that needs to happen,

474
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 1: And yeah, I think therapy's a good idea. Hey Emily,

475
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 1: good morning, Hey Emily, Hi, welcome to Keigy's court. What

476
00:22:58,800 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 1: do you want to say?

477
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 13: Okay, first off, I totally do sympathize with every sympathize. Wow,

478
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 13: I can talk this morning, That's okay.

479
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 1: We most days we can't talk so it's no big deal.

480
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 13: Love it anyways, Like the mom I feel, I do

481
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 13: feel for her, I really do, but she would never

482
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 13: be asked to share the spotlight or split her wedding

483
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 13: day with someone who was alive. I understand, you know,

484
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 13: honoring people, you know, with nice photos, the empty chair even,

485
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 13: you know, if that's what you choose to do. However,

486
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 13: I feel like the wedding should be the one event

487
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 13: where the mom understands, like, you know, the spotlight should

488
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 13: be on her daughter and her daughter's marriage and the fiance.

489
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 13: And you know, it's like it's if this is the

490
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 13: one thing the mom can rely and let the sister

491
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 13: go for the day, she should.

492
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:47,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is hard.

493
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 2: It's so hard. Like I usually am, you know, pretty

494
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 2: one side.

495
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Speaker 3: By this time, I was like, I need to know

496
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 3: what you all think, because I mean, for me, I've

497
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 3: lost the sibling, but we had a relationship. You know,

498
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,639
Speaker 3: we were really close. So he will be whenever I

499
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 3: find a man, he will be honored at my wedding.

500
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 3: I think about him on my biggest days. But that's

501
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 3: my and that's your call. No, that's your call to

502
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 3: me to do that, you know, right right right at

503
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 3: least go ahead.

504
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 13: I think that's the fair part is because the mom

505
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 13: is forced it on her all these years. You know,

506
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 13: it's almost making her feel resentful of someone you've never met,

507
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 13: and like that's not fair to her either.

508
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Emily, thank you. Have a good day,

509
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 1: you too.

510
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 5: Yeah.

511
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 1: I can't make jokes about this, No, it's not funny.

512
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: You know, you know, I'll light the mood a little bit,

513
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 1: but I can't joke. You're not going to. You're not

514
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 1: going to. You're not going to, right, But I'll tell

515
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: you something like, and I this is this doesn't happen

516
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 1: in my life personally, but and I don't want to

517
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 1: get like too much into anyone else's business, but I

518
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 1: know I've watched in my life someone have to live

519
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 1: not in the shadow per se, but sort of always

520
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 1: being compared to someone who doesn't live up to the

521
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: level that that person is by their parents. It's like

522
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 1: someone in the someone who's not carrying their weight is

523
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: always being lifted up while the other family members are

524
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 1: having to to sort of do all the work while

525
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: this other person does nothing, but like every little thing

526
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: they do is the greatest thing they've ever seen. It's

527
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 1: very painful.

528
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 2: Oh that's so annoying.

529
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,959
Speaker 1: It's very painful for the person I'm thinking of here,

530
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: and and in this case, that person didn't even get

531
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: to live a life, and yet it is still being compared.

532
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: It's like, what about me, right? You know?

533
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 3: It's like, because they do the least all the time,

534
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 3: the moment they actually do something, it's.

535
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 1: Like yay, yeah, oh my god, exactly, yeah, like what yeah, no, exactly,

536
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 1: it's like what about me. It's like, well, but we

537
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: expect more from me, But why why do I expect

538
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: more from me? Why can't I be the loser? Why

539
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 1: can I Why can't I Why can't I just be

540
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: above the loser standard here?

541
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Speaker 7: You know?

542
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 5: Yes?

543
00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Claire, Hi, good morning, Hi, good morning.

544
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 12: Yeah. I just wanted to say it. So I'm in

545
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 12: the mom's shoes. So I actually did lose my first

546
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 12: baby and had another son. Yes, awful, thank you. It's hard,

547
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 12: so like I have to deal with my own grief,

548
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 12: but I don't want to put that on my living son.

549
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 12: And my living son he never met my son that

550
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 12: passed away, so it's like I don't want to take

551
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 12: away from any of his big moments. But at the

552
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 12: same time. It's like kind of a battle too. Like

553
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 12: Christmas cards, do I put like a picture of my

554
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 12: son that passed because I want to like honor him

555
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 12: and remember him and I don't want people to forget

556
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 12: that he was around to it one time. But at

557
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 12: the same time, it's like I don't want to overshadow

558
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 12: my living son.

559
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 3: So yeah, both, yeah, and I think you should do

560
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 3: what makes you feel good, what makes you feel comfortable

561
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 3: in that you know you're not you're not putting pressure

562
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 3: on your kids to do something.

563
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 1: But it's not like your living son's birthday party. We're

564
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: having like this whole thing for the one you know

565
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like that that. Yeah, I think

566
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: the major issue here well is one that she feels

567
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: like she's she can never amount to what this what

568
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: this this spirit of this other person or what could

569
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: have been? And two it's being projected onto her day.

570
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: That's the biggest thing for me, Like if the mom

571
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: needs to grieve on the birthday, or the mom needs

572
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: to grieve privately, or the mom wants to have a

573
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: picture in the house or now we don't have to

574
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: forget this person existed, but not on my birthday, not

575
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: on my wedding day, not on the day my kid's

576
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: born or whatever else, because that's about.

577
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 12: Me, right yep, yeah, just like that's that's one of

578
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 12: the big things for me, is like I never want

579
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 12: my son to feel like he's in the shadow, because

580
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 12: like I don't want to put that burden on him.

581
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 12: So yeah, yeah, that's only on this one.

582
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 1: Well, clar thank you for sharing. I'm sorry for your loss.

583
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 1: I know it's a very very personal thing to call

584
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: and talk about, So thank you. Have a good day,

585
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 1: glad you called. Hey, Gabby, good morning.

586
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 5: Good morning, How are you Hey?

587
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: Great? What do you want to say?

588
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 5: So I actually can speak from personal experience about this.

589
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 5: I lost my baby Ax in May.

590
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry.

591
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 5: I really think that, like for the first time ever,

592
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,959
Speaker 5: I like disagree with you guys just a little bit

593
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 5: because unfortunately, like you can't pick and choose like when

594
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 5: your grief comes and goes. And I understand like the

595
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 5: daughter may not have met her sister and things like that,

596
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 5: but I'm actually pregnant again, thank you. So I just

597
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 5: I just think that, like it's kind of a fine line,

598
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 5: and I see where the mom is coming from, I

599
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 5: see where the daughter's coming from but I think like,

600
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 5: unfortunately the mom doesn't get to pick and choose when

601
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 5: she grieves her other child.

602
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: You know, yeahhy do you see how like there's a

603
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: time and a place like I mean totally three hundred

604
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: and sixty four days a year and at least internally

605
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: you can acknowledge that. And I have no idea what

606
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: that's like. I'll never know. I'm not obviously not going

607
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: to be a mother. I'm not going to carry a child.

608
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: Hopefully I never lose a child, but like this, this

609
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: is a day that is definitively not about the mom. Yeah.

610
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 5: So we actually attended a wedding couple of months ago

611
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 5: and there was a it was a close family member

612
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 5: and there was a.

613
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 10: Memorial table and they didn't honor our daughter who passed away,

614
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 10: and I was like a little bit salty about that,

615
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 10: but we kind of we kind of just acknowledged it.

616
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 5: And left it as it was. But I think for

617
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 5: some people, when it's a baby.

618
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 10: Like they don't understand the like the grasp of it,

619
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,479
Speaker 10: like like you said, when it's an adult, like, oh, well,

620
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 10: we had a conversation with that person, we talked to them,

621
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 10: we related to them.

622
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 5: But like when it's a baby. I think it's different

623
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 5: for people.

624
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: M Okay, all right, well Gabby, thank you, I'm sorry

625
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: for your lost congratulations and thank you for calling.

626
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 5: Thank you so much. Have a good day you too.

627
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: Oh that is true.

628
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 3: I feel like sometimes people don't give the same like

629
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 3: weight of grief of a baby versus a person an

630
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 3: adult life, you know, and it really hurts the same,

631
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 3: It hits the same, and you can never tell when

632
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 3: it's when a person will get over it. But I

633
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 3: just think, you know, it's on our it's on us

634
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 3: to control our grief and to deal with it and

635
00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 3: get the tools that we need to get to can

636
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 3: you life?

637
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 2: And we can't project that on everybody else, you know.

638
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just keep going back to a time and

639
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: a place.

640
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 9: Yeah, it hurts more like with the promise of like

641
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 9: what could have been, like you had for your baby

642
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 9: or of.

643
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: Course you know obviously like that was thinking that, Kaitlin,

644
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: But it's hard. It's hard to quantify, right, Like, yeah,

645
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: it's sure what could have been, but also does that

646
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: make it any more or less said than if someone

647
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: who we knew what could have been and they died

648
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: and they weren't able to achieve it. You know, it's

649
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: it's so hard to say. It's in the eye of

650
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: the beholder. I think, hey, Melissa, this is happening to you.

651
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 8: Well, not not necessarily, but yeah, I'm in the process

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Speaker 8: of wedding planning. My mom did this little girl before

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Speaker 8: I did, and you know, a devil's advocate here. Maybe

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Speaker 8: the mom's not being as spushy as.

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Speaker 5: It's being played out to be.

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Speaker 12: I don't know.

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Speaker 8: My mom has been dropping hands here and there, just

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Speaker 8: somethings that I should do, the things that I could include,

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Speaker 8: and I take it. I take it into consideration. If

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Speaker 8: it's something that works, who included. Is it's something that doesn't,

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Speaker 8: then then no, and it's worth at least discussing if

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Speaker 8: she has a strong opinion on it. Obviously, this seems

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Speaker 8: like a touchy subjects, so.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, Melissa.

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Speaker 5: Do you.

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Speaker 1: I don't have to know that all the context is

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Speaker 1: obviously very private, but have you always felt like you're

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Speaker 1: living in this because this seems like more than just

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Speaker 1: about the day. This seems like something that's a theme

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Speaker 1: like that she's constantly being reminded of this other child

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Speaker 1: that could have been and is into in all these things,

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Speaker 1: and now on my wedding day, you're going to pile

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Speaker 1: it on and do it again. I suppose if it

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Speaker 1: like if your mom makes you feel valued and makes

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Speaker 1: you feel like she's grateful for you and happy that

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Speaker 1: you're there and celebrates you, and then this one time

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Speaker 1: she says, well, what if we were to all on her?

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Speaker 1: So and so? That's one thing, But I feel like

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Speaker 1: this is like enough is enough kind of a situation

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Speaker 1: that's fair.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I my mom has always been supportive of what

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Speaker 8: I do.

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Speaker 7: I don't think that she's overbearing in her her I

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Speaker 7: guess past issues in this department, but yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I guess those topics are so sensitive that sometimes we.

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Speaker 8: Pick up on things that aren't there.

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Speaker 1: So maybe she's feeling these things.

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Speaker 8: But it's not necessarily the mom being overbearing about it.

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Speaker 1: It's just this thing that she didn't ask.

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Speaker 2: For that is brought up here and there.

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Speaker 1: This seems like it's bubbling over like again, don't I

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Speaker 1: don't know if yeah, if we're just coming up now,

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Speaker 1: like hey, we're getting the family together, this big milestone

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Speaker 1: and man, were really great to honor so and so. Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, but that's not as triggering as again, we're

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Speaker 1: going to do this again. What about me? It's my day,

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 8: And there's so many like tiktoks, reels whatever with wedding

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Speaker 8: ideas nowadays, like that the second you start wedding planning,

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Speaker 8: you get bombarded with everything wedding planning all the time.

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Speaker 8: So like, I'm sure this mom saw some sort of

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Speaker 8: TikTok videos somewhere out there that's like, hey, we can

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Speaker 8: include her and this is how we can do it,

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Speaker 8: and she maybe she's got her mindset.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Melissa, thank you and congratulations to you too. Have

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Speaker 1: a good day. She's like, thanks them, over it. Do

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Speaker 1: the damn wedding.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I feel like most people, it's like, oh, this is exciting.

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Speaker 1: Now I get to plan this whole thing and hear

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Speaker 1: what everybody else thinks about it too. The Entertainment Reporting

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