1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. We as sports fans or creatures of habit, 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: we're used to watching certain things at certain times, you know, 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: certain times of the year, certain times of the month, 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: or an evening. The pandemic has thrown that schedule into disarray. 6 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: You know, when you think about we had NBA and NHL, 7 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: we had that in the fall. We had baseball squeezed 8 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: in there a whole season. We did it in a 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: couple of months. The NFL has been the exception. Now, 10 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: they made a statement in April they held the draft 11 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: on time, and for the most part they have held 12 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: true to that schedule. But now things are getting weird. 13 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: The Ravens and Steelers are going to try again to 14 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: play this afternoon. Keep in mind that this was supposed 15 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: to be Thanksgiving night, and then it was going to 16 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: be a Sunday or Monday or Tuesday, and now here 17 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: it is on a Wednesday afternoon. I'm okay with a 18 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: London game at nine am. I mean, usually they aren't 19 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: good games, but I'm okay with it. I'm used to it. 20 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: Now we associate NFL games with downtime or reward for 21 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: a hard day's work, like you come home and you go, 22 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: I can't wait for that Monday night game or a 23 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: Sunday night game. Sometimes the NFL gets lucky, stumbles into 24 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: a great idea, and somehow I get this strong feeling 25 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: that Wednesday afternoon football will not be one of them. 26 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: Because the Ravens could have more positive tests this morning. 27 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: They have to have more tests this morning to see 28 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: if they can play tonight. I don't know what happens, 29 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: like how many positive tests, more positive tests with the 30 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: NFL then go, you know, one on second thought or 31 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: third thought or is it their fourth or fifth thought 32 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: that they wouldn't be able to play this game for 33 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: entertainment purposes only the Steelers are favored by ten and 34 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: a half. And keep this in mind, Pittsburgh beat the 35 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: Ravens back in Week eight and that was twenty eight, 36 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: twenty four, and that's a typical game between these two. 37 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: Since Mike Tomlin took over as the head coach back 38 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: in two thousand and seven, Steelers and Ravens have twenty 39 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: games against one another. That's the most by two teams 40 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: over that time frame, and they were decided by seven 41 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: points or less. They played twenty seven times. Twenty of 42 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: the twenty seven decided by seven points or less. Is 43 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: that going to be the case today? 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Click on the radio icon, 53 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: enter code Patrick, and you are good to go. A 54 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: couple other things. Last night, the College Football Playoff Committee 55 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: released its rankings, and that wasn't the big story. The 56 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: big story was Kirk Herbstreet was talking to Rees Davis 57 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: on the program and he said the following, I still 58 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: think Michigan waves the white flag potentially avoids playing Ohio 59 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: State next week, and then David, they'll potentially get a 60 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: game on the nineteenth. They could be sitting there with 61 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: six games and Michigan is that fair? David Michigan could 62 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: opt out basically of that game and keep Ohio State 63 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: out of six games to qualify for the Big Ten Championship. 64 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: That doesn't make sense to me, but I think a 65 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: lot of people wanted to see where Ohio State would be. Okay. 66 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: Herbie walked that back later on in the ninety posted 67 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: a video and said that he didn't have any insight 68 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: information and what he was basing it on, I guess 69 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: was just his opinion, a gut feeling that maybe that 70 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: could happen. I want to bring something up. I want 71 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: to bring it back up because I said this to 72 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: you yesterday around this time. My source was telling me 73 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: about what was going on with Ohio State in Michigan, 74 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: and I said, any updates on Ohio State. So this 75 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: is yesterday, only four hours ago, and my source said, 76 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: they're doing everything to play, but we'll be down significant numbers. 77 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: Michigan has paused football activities, but don't know the numbers 78 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: and their availability for this week or next week versus 79 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: Ohio State. My source then goes on to text me 80 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: if they're unable to play Ohio State, they avoid losing 81 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: to them and eliminate Ohio State from playing in the 82 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: Big Ten Championship. That's from my source yesterday. And then 83 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: I followed up after what Herbie said last night and 84 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: I said, it sounds like they're still playing. Any thoughts 85 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: on what Herbie had to say, and my source said 86 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: he's probably been talking to Davos Sweeney regarding the Florida 87 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: State situation. The situation with Michigan, according to my source, 88 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: is up in the air. If they can't fill a 89 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: competitive team, they'll have a tough decision to make against 90 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: Ohio State. So, once again, my source didn't go as 91 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: far as Herbie did that they're gonna wag the white flag, 92 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 1: but that you know, kind of the blueprint is there 93 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: or the outline is there of if Michigan can't be competitive, 94 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,559 Speaker 1: that they may not want to play this game against 95 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: Ohio State. Now, obviously there are COVID issues here. That's 96 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: first and foremost with all of this. This isn't hey, 97 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: we're not any good, we don't want to play Ohio State. 98 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: If they can't field a competitive team, from what my 99 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: source told me, then they may not be able to play. 100 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: They'll have a tough decision according to my source, to 101 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: play against Ohio State. But Herbie did backtrack and say, 102 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 1: I give Reese Davis a whole lot of credit because 103 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: I'm assuming that was live TV last night and Reese 104 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: was asking Kirk herb Street to clarify here, and he 105 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: was not taking the answers that Herbie was giving him, 106 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: and Reese really pinned him down to say, do you 107 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: know exactly what you're saying right now? And I don't 108 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: know if Herbie did. David Pollock kind of came in 109 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: and joked a little bit there, but I think that 110 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: Rhees Davis did a wonderful job in saying, guys, you 111 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: understand what we're talking about here, that Michigan would actually 112 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: not want to play a football game against Ohio State, 113 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: that they would actually do whatever they could do to 114 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: not play against Ohio State. My source is saying COVID 115 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: is the issue that if they can't field a competitive team, 116 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: then maybe they're going to have a really tough decision 117 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: to make. I'm assuming Ohio State plays Michigan State this 118 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: weekend and they don't have a requisite number to play 119 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: requisite number of games to play for the national championship, 120 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: because Ohio State could have four games and probably still 121 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 1: play in the final four, but they won't be playing 122 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: in the Big Ten Championship. But that's just some of 123 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: the background information from yesterday. What happened last night with Herbie. 124 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: Herbie did walk it back. And I've known Herbie for 125 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: thirty year, twenty five years, and I know that we 126 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 1: joe about Ohio State in Michigan because I'm from Ohio 127 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: and I hated Michigan growing up. But Herbie never engaged 128 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: in that as a fan. Never, and he's from Centerville 129 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: outside of Dayton. He never engaged with that. When we 130 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,679 Speaker 1: would joke off the air about Ohio State Michigan, he didn't. 131 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: And he has been a professional when he's on the 132 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: air talking about Michigan because it's the same thing that 133 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: I went through many many years ago when I said 134 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: I don't have an allegiance anymore. Because if I say 135 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: that I'm a Reds fan and you're a Pirates fan, 136 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: then you go, well, he's a Reds fan. I had 137 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: to stop rooting for any team. I don't root for 138 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: Ohio State. I root for a storyline here. Herbie got 139 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: caught up in Hey, maybe Ohio State. You know, if 140 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna play in Michigan's gonna get embarrassed again and 141 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: you don't want to and maybe you wave the white flag. 142 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: Where you can't say wave the white flag. You can say, 143 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: if they don't have a competitive team here, do they 144 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: make a decision based off COVID and the safety of 145 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: the players they'd be putting out there against a far 146 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: superior team. You can say it that way, but last night, 147 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: when you say you're gonna wave the white flag, there 148 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: is no I can't imagine a situation where Jim Harball 149 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: would go, I don't want to play Ohio State. Deep down, 150 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: you may go, this may hurt, but I can't imagine 151 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: those football players are going to go, we don't want 152 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: to go out there and play. You don't get to 153 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: that point in your career where all of a sudden 154 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: you pick and choose when you want to play and 155 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: don't want to play based on based off how good 156 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: somebody is or isn't. And this might just be sort 157 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: of the overflow of Clemson still heated, Dabbo Sweeney is 158 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: still upset at Florida State, and Hervey's got two of 159 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 1: his sons who go to Clemson. Maybe he spoke to Dabo. 160 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: According to my source, maybe that's where it came from. 161 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: But I don't know of other situations where coaches are 162 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 1: saying that team is opting out they don't want to 163 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: face somebody. Yeah, Paul, like you said, this topic must 164 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: be driving Jim Harbaugh crazy. And you know him, We've 165 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 1: had him on a dozen times. The fact that they're 166 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: even speculation by anybody out there that his team would 167 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: rather stay home than get waxed. I know he's not talking. 168 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: He hasn't done a lot of interviews this year, but 169 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: that must be driving him nuts. Yeah, but well, it 170 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: was just strange. I'm watching I'm watching the show. It's 171 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: a half hour show, and then I'm getting ready to 172 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: watch basketball after that, and I thought, Okay, there's not 173 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: going to be any change in the top four, top five. 174 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: I was curious about Iowa stayed, I was curious about BYU, 175 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: curious about Cincinnati. Basically, that's it. And then all of 176 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: a sudden, when Herbie started talking, and then he kept talking, 177 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: and then I went, is somebody gonna say anything? And 178 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: then he turned it over to David Pollock, and David 179 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: Pollock joked with him a little bit, and then Reese 180 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: hit the reset button and said, wait, wait, hold on, 181 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: do you know what you're doing. Do you know what 182 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: you're saying? And he was holding Herbie accountable and that's 183 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: what you needed to do. It was very good TV. 184 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 1: It wasn't scripted, but it was very good TV. All Right, mcleven, 185 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: you got a pull question for me today. Well, we 186 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: have to start with the obvious question. Will the Ravens 187 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: and Steelers actually play today? At three forty Eastern time? 188 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: Can I wait for about twenty minutes after we have 189 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: Michelle Tafoya on because I don't know when today's test, 190 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: this morning's test results come back, but I would like 191 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: to I get some point and you go for competitive balance. 192 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 1: Could you imagine if the Steelers get ready for the Ravens, 193 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: they've already flown there, and you're still waiting on tests 194 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: this morning to see if you can play this football game. 195 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say we're gonna play the football game. I 196 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: don't know what it's going to look like. It has 197 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: to be better than Denver against New Orleans. It has 198 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: to be at least three has played the position at 199 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: a high level before. Yes, McLevin. I keep googling who's 200 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 1: on the Ravens team tonight and it's not clear because 201 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 1: they guys are on the COVID list, but I don't 202 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: know who gets off the COVID list and time to play, 203 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: so they're they're massing like eight Pro Bowl players like 204 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: Clay's Campbell, Mark Andrews, Brandon Williams. You gets sown on 205 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:24,359 Speaker 1: a list, Willie Sneed. It's everybody's out. You can't reschedule 206 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: this game right like like they can't do it again. 207 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: But then what do you do if they can't play 208 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: this game? Can you do it? Can you do it Thursday? 209 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: Like Thursday morning, you know, Morning drive football. I mean, 210 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: at this point, it's bordering on embarrassing. We're gonna we're 211 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: gonna get this football game in. I don't care what happens. 212 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: I don't care who plays. We're getting this football game in. 213 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: But we'll talk to Michelle Tafoya. He'll she'll join us 214 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: and give us an update on what is going on 215 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: with this game. Yes, Paulie, I wonder if the Foia 216 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 1: is going to have just a normal mask on on 217 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: the sidelines, or like the full has Matt or like 218 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: the Apollo thirteen space suit doing her sideline report being 219 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: extra cautious. What else do you have? Nick, lovin. Okay, wait, 220 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, do you want to do this time? 221 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 1: How do you feel about that? Um? The last one 222 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 1: didn't go great, but it wasn't terrible. I say, we 223 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 1: just go for it. Oh you're feeling that good? Okay? Well, 224 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: Todd came up with a poem, A limerick. A limerick, Okay, 225 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: a limerick. I'm sorry my wheelhouse. Yeah pocket with the 226 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: haikus of the automatic you you stole a limerick from 227 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 1: somebody and won an award. I did that once. Was 228 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 1: a man from Peru's dreamed he was kissing his shoe. 229 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 1: He woke in the night in the terrible fright. I 230 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: found out it was perfectly true, right out of a book. 231 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: Do you want to get this over with? Yeah, here's 232 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: Todd Fritz with his limerick about today's Raven Steelers game, 233 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: a third rescheduled game. No way, it's a pandemic. So 234 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: what you say, Wednesday afternoon at Hines just the sign 235 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: of the times. But are we sure that they'll even play? Okay? 236 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: I like that. Now is the effort to rhyme or 237 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: to entertain, I'd like to say more entertain, But as 238 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 1: far as following the pros and what you're supposed to 239 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: do for Limerick lines one, two and five after rhyme 240 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: in three and four after rhyme separate. Okay, all right, 241 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a passing grade on that. I'll 242 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 1: take that. Yeah, like an eighty. No no, no, it's 243 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: like Brown University. You pass or fail. Never Seese Dick 244 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: get degree. Take what else do you have? McLevin? Okay? 245 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: I was going to ask which team in the top 246 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: four now is most likely to fall out with Clemson, 247 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: Notre Dame, Alabama, and Ohio State. But based on what 248 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: you opened with, is the answer going to be Ohio State? Well, 249 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: I think that the committee this is entertainment, this is 250 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: a TV show, and as much as we want to go, 251 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: this is based off your resume. I don't know how 252 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,719 Speaker 1: you could look at Ohio State and say, based off 253 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: your resume, we're putting you in the final four. Now, 254 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 1: talent wise, they deserve to be in the final four, 255 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: but you can't tell me based off your resume that 256 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: they're a final four team. But I think that I 257 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 1: think Ohio State is still going to make it even 258 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: if they're playing four games. I see this scenario. I 259 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: don't know if it could happen. But let's say Notre 260 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: Dame loses to Clemson by less than a touchdown, Clemson 261 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: fully assembled with Trevor Lawrence back, Alabama loses to Florida 262 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: in a close game. Could Ohio State get left out 263 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: because you'd still keep Alabama in after a loss, and 264 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: you'd keep Notre Dame in after a loss because their 265 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: resume is better than Ohio States. That was just the 266 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: one question that I had if we look at scenarios here, 267 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: that was the one that I looked at. Yeah, mccleman, 268 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: what about Texas A and M who sits at five? 269 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: I believe do they have a real path because what 270 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: you describe leaves them out a little bit. I don't 271 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: know if anybody is anxious to see Texas A and M. 272 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: Just being honest here from an observer, But this is 273 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: what this is about. This isn't March madness. This is 274 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: the four best teams where people are going to watch 275 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: in Ohio State, Clemson, Alabama, Notre Dame. People will watch. 276 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: You want to put Florida in there with Kyle Trask, 277 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: who will probably win the Heisman, or at least if 278 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: he has a great game against Alabama, he's going to 279 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: win the Heisman Trophy. Maybe people will tune in for that. 280 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody is interested in Texas, A and 281 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: M being invited to the party what else. So that 282 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: means Cincinnati isn't even worth as Cincinnati is. You know, 283 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: if this were March Madness Cincinnati and BYU Coastal Carolina 284 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: Liberty would be a whole lot of fun. But this 285 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: is football, and football doesn't believe in Cinderella's stories. They 286 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: love the blue Bloods, and they are gonna live and 287 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: die by the blue Bloods. And I don't think this 288 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: year is any exception. Thanks for listening to The Dan 289 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every 290 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: weekday morning nine to noon Eastern or six to nine 291 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for 292 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show at Fox Sports Radio dot com, 293 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app 294 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: by searching f s R, or stream us live on 295 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: the Peacock Act. Michelle Tafoya NBC Sunday Night Football, NBC 296 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: Wednesday Afternoon Football Sideline reporter, and she joins us now 297 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: from Pittsburgh. How confident are you we're playing football to day? 298 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: Michelle I'm very confident. But first I have to say 299 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: Jalen Sugs of Gonzaga, don't ignore him. Okay, mini guys 300 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: point guard. All right, Yeah, we're gonna have some football. 301 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: It's the Thanksgiving edition of Sunday Night Football on Wednesday afternoon. 302 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: That's what we have. We feel pretty confident. Look, the 303 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: Steelers have two guys missing and James Connor and Stephanto 304 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 1: it the Ravens. You should see this flip card. If 305 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: people don't know what a flip card is, it's the 306 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 1: card that they give the media to that lists all 307 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: the starters in the second and third deep. It is 308 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: a mess. It's just an absolute mess for the Ravens. 309 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: But you know, some of these guys are coming back. 310 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 1: The rumors that mark Ingram and JK. Dobbins will play 311 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: this game are false. They will not. They're not coming 312 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: and so but you know they're going to take rapid 313 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: tests before they leave the hotel today and assuming everyone clears, 314 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: we've got a football game. Okay, could there be a 315 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: number and like, is there a number of positive tests 316 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: that could happen this morning where that it would put 317 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: this game in jeopardy? Well, my guests would be again, 318 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: this is not official, Dan, but what they've been doing 319 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: is I mean, if there's a single test, then really, 320 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: if that person's been in meals, in a walkthrough, in 321 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: a meeting, then everyone's at risk. Or they could say, 322 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: you know what, it's a it's a defensive back. We're 323 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: only worried about the corners and everyone else's is negative. 324 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: I'm sure it would have to be cleared with the league. 325 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's something I'm sure John Harbaugh is grinding 326 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: his teeth about this morning, is get these tests back 327 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: and please make them negative. How is your role changed 328 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: in the last week in approaching this game. I've just 329 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: become very familiar with Pittsburgh, Dan, especially the downtown area. 330 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: It's been you know, I you know, the role hasn't 331 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: changed so much, although I'll tell you we're all kind 332 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: of like dizzy of looking through the numbers and the names. Okay, 333 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: this guy now is off the list, but this guy's on. 334 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: So they have how many starters missing, and how many 335 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: of those guys are Pro bowlers and which who's Oh, 336 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: but this guy now is back and this guy's off. 337 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: That part has been honestly the most time consuming part 338 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,959 Speaker 1: of this for me. Anyway, And I think really for 339 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,479 Speaker 1: all of us trying to figure out who's playing. You know, 340 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: all these practice squad players that are coming up. I mean, 341 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: it's just a bunch of them and people don't know 342 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,239 Speaker 1: who they are, so preparing that way. I know it's 343 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: been tough for Chris getting these names of guys you 344 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: never heard of, and you know, for me, yeah, I 345 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: just feel like I'm a I'm a counter, I'm a 346 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: I count COVID test. That's what I've done all weeks. 347 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: We're talking to Michelle Tafoya, NBC Sunday Night Football sideline reporter, 348 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 1: Mike Trico, Chris collins Worth and Michelle will be on 349 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 1: the call. Game starts at three forty Eastern. What is 350 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: the schedule this morning for these two teams or when 351 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: did they take the field? Okay, so kickoffs at three forty. 352 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: We go on there at three thirty. I think the 353 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: teams arrive in the one o'clock our. You know, as 354 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: I talked to Cam Hayward last night, I said, what's 355 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: the day like tomorrow? He goes, it's just a delayed 356 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: one o'clock game. That's the way they're looking at it. 357 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: They're looking at like, you know what, We're supposed to 358 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 1: play at one, but there's a lot of snow, so 359 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: we got to play at three thirty instead. So I think, 360 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: you know, everything's just bumped a little bit. Um. I 361 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: know these guys are itching to get out there. The 362 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: one kind of silver lining, especially for Pittsburgh is guys 363 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: have had all this time to rest and get better. 364 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: They were they were pretty beat up, and they've gotten 365 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: to rest and get better. I would say that's true 366 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: for some of the Ravens as well. But Um, you know, 367 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh feels great now. Harbaugh loves the idea that no 368 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: one thinks they can win this game, but it is 369 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: hard to see them putting it together a team that 370 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: can contend with with what the Steelers have gone right now, 371 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: though the first game was very close. Did you talk 372 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: to Roethlisberger? Did the crew talk to Roethlisberger? Yes? Okay, 373 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: what did you take away from that interview? Um? Nothing 374 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: particularly groundbreaking, Um, you know, just I think the usual stuff. 375 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 1: He feels great, Um loves his team. They don't need 376 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: to go undefeated. Um. They just want to keep winning 377 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: their ultimate goal as a super Bowl, obviously, and they're 378 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: really confident there's no drama with Pittsburgh and right, yeah, 379 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: not really. Isn't that funny? And so many times that 380 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: there are, but uh, you know, it's it's interesting no drama. 381 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: Tomlins his usual brilliant self with all these lines that 382 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: come out of his mouth that just just kill you. 383 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: But it's yeah, there's not a lot of drama because 384 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 1: there isn't a lot of injury. Now. The interesting thing 385 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: about James Connor, they're running back there, they're superstar, is that, 386 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: you know, he's a cancer survivor. And one of the 387 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: things about this COVID thing is if you have a 388 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 1: secondary you know, a co co morbidity they call it, 389 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: that can be dangerous. But James has been healthy for 390 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 1: a long time. As far as we know, he's he's 391 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: handling this just fine. And I would say the same 392 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: thing about Mark Andrews for the Ravens. He's a type 393 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: one diabetes guy and having a great season by the way, 394 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: but he came into this season I was wide open 395 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 1: and didn't really think anything of it. But those are 396 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: the two I think on these two teams that you 397 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: have to kind of just have a little bit of 398 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: extra concern for what roll his weather played today not 399 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: as much as it would have last night, because yesterday 400 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 1: was a complete snowstorm here and things were very slick 401 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: and they got it went from snow to rain late 402 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: in the day. It was ugly. So I think weather's 403 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: going to be a non factor. It's supposed to be 404 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: sunny cold. But you know, if anything was going to 405 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: be impacted, I would say it's the kicking game, but 406 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: that has never seemed to bother Justin Tucker. What's interesting. 407 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: Justin Tucker's like the most successful kicker at Hinz ever. 408 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,959 Speaker 1: Maybe he's missed one kick here, one field goal attempt, 409 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: and that was in his first season. The interesting thing 410 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: is for him is his long snapper, Morgan Cox is 411 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: out with COVID, so they've got a practice guy coming 412 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: up to do the long snapping with this group, Justin Tucker. 413 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: They're punter Sam Cook who does the holding, and this 414 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 1: group has played ninety straight games together and now they're 415 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: interrupting this and we'll see how that goes. You know, 416 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: Justin didn't want to talk about he was a little superstitious. 417 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: He told me a guy Nick's going to do great, 418 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: Nick Moore, who's coming up. But you know that could 419 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: be sort of an interesting twist in all this. A 420 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: guy who has had just ridiculous success at hines In 421 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: Justin Tucker, is that messed up? Today? Who knows? You're 422 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: also hosting NBC Sports Uncovered, a podcast and the latest 423 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: interview is with John Gruden. What did we unearth from 424 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 1: the podcast with the new and improved two point zero 425 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: John Gruden? For me, the most interesting thing was how 426 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: emotional he can still get about thinking about when he 427 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: was traded to Tampa. When he was when the Raiders 428 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: were able to say, yeah, we don't we don't really 429 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 1: need you anymore, we're going to trade you. It really 430 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: I was surprised how much that still stings for him, 431 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: even though he went to Tampa and beat the Raiders 432 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl and really had the ultimate revenge. 433 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 1: But it's still it still is hard for him to 434 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: talk about and that that was interesting to me, because 435 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 1: as hard as I tried to get more information from him, 436 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: he would say, it's too painful and it makes me emotional, 437 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 1: and so I'm done talking about that. But given what 438 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: happened in that Super Bowl, it felt like they knew 439 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: every play that rich Gannon was calling. Does Gruden admit 440 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: that now that they knew exactly what was going on, 441 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: he in a way, Yeah, I mean they acknowledge the 442 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: fact that that was one of those years where you 443 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: didn't have that that weak break between the end of 444 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 1: the season and the super Bowl, or between the end 445 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: of the playoffs and the super Bowl that we have now, 446 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 1: that sort of bye week, and that really didn't allow 447 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: the Raiders to change much. And so yeah, that with 448 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 1: that short wee could notice or short we could practice 449 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,719 Speaker 1: in preparation, and they weren't able to change much. And yeah, Gruden, 450 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: Gruden knew a lot. And Gruden loves to have some 451 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: colorful language in practice on the sidelines. If you were 452 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: going to like, was there a moment where you went, 453 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: oh my god, you're on the sidelines and you hear 454 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: a coach go off. Have you had one of those 455 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: moments with Gruden? Well, anybody just where the language was 456 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: a little more colorful than you would have thought. Sure, 457 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: I have. You know what's odd about My strongest memory 458 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: of Gruden was early in my sidelining career. I was 459 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 1: still at CBS and it was the day after Christmas 460 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: and we were doing a game at Oakland. I don't 461 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 1: even remember who the other team was because on Christmas Night, 462 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: the night before the game, I had a surprise in 463 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: that my my then boyfriend now husband popped the question 464 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 1: on Christmas Night. So I went out the next day 465 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: to that game, just you know, like on a cloud, 466 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 1: and Lance Barrow, the producer of the game, who kept saying, Michelle, 467 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,479 Speaker 1: hold the microphone in your left hand so if one 468 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 1: could see the ring. And so then I just remember 469 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 1: at halftime, I was waiting for Gruden to come out, 470 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: and Gruden sort of pointed to the ground, like you 471 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: come over here, I'm not coming to you, And so 472 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: I went over and talked to him. But you know, 473 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: I have a great relationship with Gruden because we worked 474 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: on Monday Night Football on ESPN for a couple of 475 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: years together. And but yeah, I mean every coach is different, 476 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 1: and they're all they've all got their thing, and some 477 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: guys are really much more polite than you would expect, 478 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 1: and some guys are really salty. Who's really polite? You know? 479 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: It's funny, Dan, it doesn't come to mind right away. 480 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: How is Belichick? Is he ever like expressive with you? Effusive? 481 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: Where he just I wouldn't say effusive I'm not sure 482 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: that he's ever really effusive unless he's talking about a 483 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 1: great story or something historical in football, But you know, 484 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: he Look, I'm appreciative of any coach that's willing under 485 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: those circumstances to talk to you. I do have a 486 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: memory of him going into that last Super Bowl we 487 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: covered in Arizona, and I remember they were heading into 488 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,199 Speaker 1: the locker room for the last time before kickoff, and 489 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: I caught up with him and I said, let me 490 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: just ask you, do you get nervous before these big games? 491 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: And he goes, yeah, I do. And I thought that 492 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: was interesting because he's a guy that would never really 493 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: let on that things, you know, bother him and that 494 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: he's anything but just feet on the ground and everything. 495 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: So I thought that was really interesting. You know, it's 496 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: it's a game to game thing, Dan, and you just 497 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: kind of go into each interview with these coaches, whether 498 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: they're winning or losing, just bracing for the worst and 499 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: trying not to ask a stupid question. Have fun today, Michelle, 500 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: and hopefully you get to a skate Pittsburgh, not that 501 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: it's not a great city, but you probably spent more 502 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: time there than your Pan taxes in Pittsburgh. We are, 503 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: we all are, and there's no room service. So but no, 504 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: we're good. I don't want to sound like we're complaining. 505 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 1: We're not. We're it's all good and we're excited. But 506 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: thank you Dan for having me. Thank you, Michelle. That's 507 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 1: Michelle Tafoya, NBC Sunday Night Football now Wednesday Afternoon Football 508 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 1: Sideline reporter. Be sure to catch the live edition of 509 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six 510 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app. 511 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: Pat forty Sports Illustrated senior rener covering college athletics, and 512 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: I believe he was watching a basketball game or something 513 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: that resembled a basketball game last night with Kansas and Kentucky. 514 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: What's the takeaway from the basketball that you saw last night? 515 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: They told us it was basketball. I remain unconvinced after 516 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,959 Speaker 1: having been there it was. It was traumatic. I mean, 517 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: it was as bad as it gets. Kansas one shooting 518 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: thirty percent. Both these teams are not vintage versions of themselves. 519 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: I mean, Kansas and Kentucky usually or national championship contenders. 520 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: Maybe one or both of them will round into that form, Dan, 521 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: but they're a long way from that now, which is 522 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: actually part for the course for both of them, but 523 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: especially Kentucky at this time of year. But Kentucky hasn't 524 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: been one and two, which they are now since Billy 525 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: Gillespie was the coach. So this is the worst start 526 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: they've had under Caliperry. He doesn't have the horses that 527 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: he usually has. It doesn't appear, so his annual kind 528 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: of build from nothing to something is going to be 529 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: a little bit steeper and more difficult this season. Give 530 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: me three players that we should keep an eye on 531 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: in college basketball this year. Three players I think that 532 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: obviously Luca Garza at Iowa, who put up forty something 533 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: in their game last week. You know a lot of 534 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: people surprised he stayed in school. He's not an unbelievable athlete, 535 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,479 Speaker 1: but boys, he's got skill and will. He's tough, he's strong, 536 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: he's relentless. I would say Jalen Suggs, freshman at Gonzaga. 537 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: I think Gonzaga is the best team and he's the 538 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: highest recruited player they've had there and a little bit 539 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: off the radar. But Kay Cunningham, another star freshman. He's 540 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: at Oklahoma State, which is not eligible for the postseason, 541 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: but he's really good and he's going to be a 542 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: very high draft pick. Does Duke have one of those guys? 543 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: And not really? That's you know, you look at Duke 544 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: and you look at Kentucky and you don't see you 545 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: sure don't see Zion Williamson. You don't see Anthony Davis, 546 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: you don't see Carl Town's, you know, any of those 547 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: sort of guys. You see a lot of good players 548 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: who are highly recruited, but I don't think you see 549 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: somebody who is going to be a superstar freshman and 550 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: then a you know, top three pick for either team. 551 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: All right, let's turn our attention to college football. You 552 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: have the Playoffs Selection Show Week two. Here, there weren't 553 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: any headlines until Kurk curb Street said the following, I 554 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: still think Michigan waves the white flag potentially avoids playing 555 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: Ohio State next week, and then davidet actually get a 556 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: game on the nineteenth. They could be sitting there with 557 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: six games and Michigan. Is that fair? David, Michigan could 558 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: opt out basically of that game and keep Ohio State 559 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: out of six games to qualify for the Big Ten Championship. 560 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: That doesn't make sense to me, but I think a 561 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: lot of people wanted to see where Ohio State would be. 562 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: Your reaction to that pen was, WHOA Did I just 563 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: hear that? I was watching it in real time, and 564 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: I was like, did Kirk Herb Street, the former Ohio 565 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: State quarterback, just say that the arch rival is going 566 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: to chicken out of playing one of the biggest rivalry 567 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: games in college football? Wow? And so you know that 568 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: that was my thought. I immediately felt, well, there's a 569 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: column I started writing. Especially Reece Davis followed up with 570 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: the comment or the double down on that, and Kirk 571 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: stuck with that line, basically saying that coaches are telling 572 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: him that schools are using COVID as an excuse to 573 00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: avoid playing games they're going to lose or be human 574 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: aliate it in and then he said, I don't really 575 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: know about Michigan and they later apologized for that. But 576 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: what it says to me, Dan is everything about the 577 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: messy end of this season. Okay, there's a lot of 578 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: people that probably really don't want to play. There are 579 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: some teams that are probably using COVID as an excuse 580 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: not to play, so that's probably true. But that was 581 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: a pretty wild accusation, and it underscores the amount of 582 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: suspicion and cynicism that we are going to be involved 583 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: in for the next two or three weeks because we 584 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: are dragging this season to the finish line and there's 585 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: a lot of players and a lot of teams that 586 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: really don't want to be there. What is Michigan status 587 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: as far as being able to play football the next 588 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: two weeks. Yeah, they paused in person activities Monday and Tuesday. 589 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: Don't know whether they'll be back on the field today Wednesday, 590 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: so they are TVD for this week. Still, we'll see, 591 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: you know, if they can get to their game Saturday 592 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: against maryl Ohio State looks like now they're going to 593 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: play after they missed last week. This is the kind 594 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: of the state of the Big Ten right now is 595 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: very pretenuous. I mean, it's day to day about who's 596 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: going to play, and usually if you miss one week, 597 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: it could be a two week problem. You know. It 598 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: looks like, ohw State may avoid that. But we will 599 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: see with Michigan or do they play this week and 600 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: then obviously do they play next week. But also, Patty, 601 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: I just wonder when we say, well, it's based on 602 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: the eye test, it's based off your resume. If Ohio 603 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: State only plays four or five games, I don't know 604 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: how that playoffs selection committee can honestly look at them 605 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: and go, yep, they're one of the four best teams 606 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: in the country. As much as we want to base 607 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: this on, you know, past the talent they have, who's 608 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: the quarterback, they haven't done anything to distinguish themselves as 609 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: one of the four best teams in the country when 610 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: it's all said and done, right, No, I mean, that's 611 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: the thing you'd be looking at, basically a half a 612 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: resume compared to some other schools that have played literally 613 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: twice as many games. You know, Brian Kelly, it was 614 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: pretty interesting a couple of games ago made a point 615 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: when they got to eight he said, we have played 616 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: a big ten schedule. He made his point pretty clear 617 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 1: that you know that the different number of games will 618 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: be a major flash point, arguing point for the committeean 619 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: for fans everywhere. And Gary Barter, the chair of the 620 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: selection committee, did say last night that it's close for 621 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: four between Ohio State and Texas A and M, which 622 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: is lost but has played more games. So I think 623 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: the Committee's absolutely going to look at that, and that's 624 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: going to be a down to the wire discussion. I mean, 625 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: if you're Ohio State, you really need to play every 626 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 1: possible game you can. I was also wondering, could you 627 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 1: see a scenario where Florida beach Alabama and Clemson barely 628 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: beat Notre Dame and they would still all stay in 629 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: the top four and they would cancel out Ohio State. Yeah, oh, 630 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: I think that. I think if Florida beats Alabama that 631 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: you would have a pretty strong argument for two SEC 632 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: teams and then absolutely a fifth. Clemson, like Notre Dame, 633 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: I think is really close to being in right now. 634 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: You know, all they've got to do is loss. Even 635 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: with a loss, as long as they don't get dump trucked. 636 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: You know, if if it's if it's a four touchdown 637 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 1: loss and Trevor Lawrence lights him up and you can say, oh, 638 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 1: that's the difference, Uh, then that may it may preclude them. 639 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: But if it's if it's a close game and they've 640 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: beaten Clemson once and lost to him once, I think 641 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: they're they're pretty close to being in. And I think 642 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: Alabama same thing. As long as if they could lose 643 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,879 Speaker 1: to Florida as long as they did in fifty six 644 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: to nothing, which it wouldn't be Uh. And I think 645 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: probably still get in as well. Kyle Trask the Heisman, 646 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: it's his to lose. Uh. Probably. Boy. You know me 647 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: as a Heisman voter, I generally tend to wait until 648 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 1: the last minute and I want to see everything. But 649 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: I mean, he's been great. Uh, he is definitely the 650 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: front runner. But you know, Zach Wilson has been awfully 651 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 1: good at BYU. He just doesn't quite have the platform. 652 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 1: I still think Trevor Lawrence is the best player. Uh, 653 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: justin fields is the running up against the problem of 654 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: enough reps and performances, enough stats. I think there's still 655 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: enough several people I want to look at for the 656 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: next couple of weeks before I decide. Yeah, I'm the same. 657 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: I'm a Heisman voter as well. But if you would 658 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: have said to me two years ago, Trevor Lawrence is 659 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 1: going to leave Clemson and not have a Heisman trophy, yeah, shocking, really, 660 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And especially hasn't been hurt 661 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: and the team hasn't lost. You know, that's that's the 662 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: kind of thing that it is very unusual to be 663 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: in that situation. I still think he's going to get 664 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: a lot of votes this year. I really do. But 665 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: do you think that that this would be a career 666 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: Achievement Award for Trevor Lawrence in some people's eyes? It 667 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,879 Speaker 1: could be. It could be, you know. I mean, he's 668 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: having a really good season. He just he missed a month. 669 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: He didn't there were two games that he didn't play, 670 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: and then Clemson didn't play for a couple of weeks. 671 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 1: He's I believe, ninth nationally and pass efficiency, he's doing well. 672 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: If just some other quarterbacks have had more opportunities and 673 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: done a lot with them. Always great to talk to you, 674 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 1: Pat save travels back home. We appreciate your time as 675 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,760 Speaker 1: always a pleasure. Dan, Thank you. That's bad forty Sports 676 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: Illustrated senior writer covering college basketball and college football. Thanks 677 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure 678 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 1: to catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon 679 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 1: eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and 680 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 1: you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR 681 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 1: or stream us live on the Peacock app. I think 682 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: I'm over hyping the Johnny Manziel interview that he did 683 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,840 Speaker 1: with the y n K podcast and the former Heisman 684 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 1: Trophy winner. I think Johnny Manziel is only twenty seven 685 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 1: years of age. That sound about right, Paully, Isn't that embarrassing? Yeah, 686 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: there's not even discussion of him playing football again or 687 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 1: he engaged by him. And I'll go back how many 688 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: years ago it was when he was going to Vegas, 689 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: and I remember saying, I said, Paully, if you can 690 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 1: get Johnny Manziel privately, I'd like to just tell him 691 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 1: that he's going to get to a point before he's 692 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: thirty years of age, nobody's going to care about him. Yeah, 693 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: point Dan. You did have a couple of talk back 694 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 1: and forth with them via text, and I heard back 695 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 1: and forth. He would always tell us the right things, 696 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: like when we would have him on in two twelve 697 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 1: and thirteen and fourteen and fifteen, every time we get 698 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 1: done with the interview, you would say, you know what 699 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: he's really he sounds good, and then you would say 700 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: to yourself, but I feel like I'm being played. Yeah, 701 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: he's he's gonna be irrelevant. And here he is, twenty 702 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 1: seven years of age. Here's Mamzelle on the y n 703 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: K you never know a podcast. There's a lot of 704 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 1: guys who get exploited, who and who get fed up 705 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 1: because they can't make money in college. Because they can't 706 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,399 Speaker 1: make money in college, dude. When I started making money 707 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: in college, Mike Evans used to ask me if I 708 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 1: could help him get his daughter diapers and like things 709 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 1: to go through. A seven hundred dollars stipe and check 710 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 1: a month doesn't cut it. I took care of that. 711 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: You take care of the boys, so he doesn't even 712 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 1: need said bread. I mean, that's that was That was 713 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: That was the thing. That was the thing where I 714 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: was like, Yo, I'm gonna go do what I need 715 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 1: to do right. People come up to you, comes up 716 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: to you and says, yo, I got five thousand dollars 717 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: for you to do something. I got twelve ninety nine 718 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 1: in my bank account. Do you think I'm gonna say? 719 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 1: And now where the bread? At least surprising story probably 720 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 1: of the day or the week or the year that 721 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: Johnny was getting money in college. I understand it. I mean, 722 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,439 Speaker 1: it happens a lot more than you think it does. 723 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: The question I always wondered is how does it happen? 724 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: Because it used to be boosters had an opportunity to 725 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: get closer to the athletes, and it doesn't feel like that. 726 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,280 Speaker 1: It feels like the booster is a little more removed 727 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: now now it's through shoe company, or could be through 728 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 1: AAU coach or a high school coach. Yeah, seton. Johnny 729 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 1: Manziel might have gotten one of the biggest hall passes 730 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,800 Speaker 1: of a college career of all time because not only 731 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 1: was it like his lifestyle and partying right, and it 732 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 1: was like, well, show me where it's affecting him on 733 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 1: the field. Until it's affecting him on the field, I 734 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: think he could do whatever he wants. And then dude's 735 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: flying all over the country. He's driving a Mercedes. He's 736 00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 1: like doing all this stuff. And it's like, what his 737 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 1: parents got money? Why would he take money. He's already 738 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 1: rparents have money. He was given every possible haul pass 739 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: a quarterback could get. We loved this story. We didn't 740 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,360 Speaker 1: want Johnny taken off the field. He was fascinating. I 741 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 1: guess that you know there are a lot of enablers. Yes, boy, 742 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 1: After his first year at A and M. One of 743 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 1: the things he's referencing is there was investigation in him 744 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: taking a bag full of cash, supposedly seventy five ten 745 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 1: thousand dollars, and there was video TMZ had it. The 746 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 1: investigation lasted most of the offseason, going into his second 747 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,880 Speaker 1: final year at A and M. And the result of 748 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 1: the investigation was he was suspended for one half of 749 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,359 Speaker 1: the Rice game. The Rice game, and everyone said, well, 750 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 1: he didn't take it. He said, I didn't take it. 751 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,839 Speaker 1: And the end and see he said, we could find 752 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 1: no evidence. We can't find the bag of cash. Oh god. 753 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: And then you would just hear stories and no, no, 754 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 1: unless I had it, and I had it from a 755 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: reliable source, then you know I wasn't going with it. 756 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 1: But man, you would just hear these stories and you go. 757 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 1: And I've been doing this long time, you know, going 758 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 1: back to guys at Kentucky getting basketball, you know, money 759 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: on the basketball team to somebody I knew who got Mercedes, 760 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:16,800 Speaker 1: those those two seaters, beautiful Mercedes. Yeah, Paulli. It should 761 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 1: have tipped us off a little bit when Johnny Manzell's 762 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 1: touchdown celebration was I'm making fingers, I'm giving it out 763 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 1: to the fellas, so straight cash homey. Fox Sports Radio 764 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 1: has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch 765 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 1: all of our shows at Fox Sports Radio dot com 766 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 1: and within the iHeartRadio app. Search f SR to listen live. 767 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 1: Jerry Dulac covers the Steelers for the Pittsburgh Postcazette and 768 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 1: kind enough to join us. Jerry, thanks for joining us. 769 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 1: What was the reaction when you found out that the 770 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: Steelers are going to face a team probably with their 771 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 1: third string running back? Well, I will tell you this, 772 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,439 Speaker 1: Dan and good morning that even yesterday when they held 773 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 1: their walk through with the id that Dobbins and mark 774 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 1: Ingram might play, they didn't alter their approach or their 775 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 1: plan or anything else. They have the same plan going 776 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:17,839 Speaker 1: in for Gus Edwards, excuse me and RG three as 777 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 1: they would for Lamar Jackson and JK. Dobbins and or 778 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 1: mark Ingram, So it doesn't affect them one way or 779 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 1: the other. It probably benefits them that JK. Dobbins isn't playing. 780 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,320 Speaker 1: But they then they're very much aware of what happened 781 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,760 Speaker 1: last year in the season finale when RG three played 782 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 1: and Gus Edwards and the Ravens still ran for two 783 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 1: hundred and three yards, and one thing they do know 784 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,840 Speaker 1: that they want to do or have to do is 785 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,360 Speaker 1: change their scheme how they defend the Ravens, because in 786 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 1: the last three games the numbers like eight hundred and 787 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 1: eleven yards the Rabins rushed for against the Steelers, including 788 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 1: that two sixty five a month ago. So that's what 789 00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,800 Speaker 1: they know they have to change. But the personnel is 790 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 1: isn't going to dictate to them how they are going 791 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 1: to defend the Ravels. I had a source earlier in 792 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,400 Speaker 1: the week saying that John Harbaugh was being a hypocrite, 793 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,439 Speaker 1: that they created this. Now they're saying that they're being 794 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 1: persecuted picked on here. I'm just wondering about the Steelers 795 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 1: side of this, because it feels like the Steelers are 796 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 1: the ones who didn't do anything wrong, but they're the 797 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 1: ones being punished to a certain degree. How are the 798 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:26,799 Speaker 1: Steelers reacting to this, well, other than the game being 799 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,439 Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving game being canceled and some of their young 800 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: guys coming out and saying that's BS and then using 801 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 1: the full word and then saying it's a joke. You know, 802 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,239 Speaker 1: Juju Smith Schuster coming out and saying, you know, you know, 803 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 1: if the Ravens can't control their COVID situation, that should 804 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 1: be on them forgetting the fact that the two weeks 805 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,400 Speaker 1: earlier the Steelers had five guys on a list, including 806 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,839 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger, but the timing benefited them because they could 807 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,719 Speaker 1: come off on Saturday and play on Sunday. Beyond that, 808 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,880 Speaker 1: I think Mike Tomlin's directive to them is as always 809 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 1: as just hey, look, just keep the focus, stay on 810 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 1: a stay on the path we're on, and I you know, 811 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,919 Speaker 1: if anything, maybe they're getting a little antswy, but hey, look, 812 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 1: the same complaints are coming out of Pittsburgh, not necessarily 813 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 1: from the steam from the team and the players, but 814 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 1: from their fans and maybe internally there's some oh, you know, 815 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 1: we're getting the short end of the stick. But I 816 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,280 Speaker 1: don't think that that permeates the locker room. Mike Tomlin 817 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,320 Speaker 1: won't allow that to happen. But yeah, I think every 818 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 1: team feels they're being picked on. Look at the Denver 819 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 1: Broncos Dan they petitioned the league every which way they 820 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 1: could to try and do something about that quarterback situation, 821 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,759 Speaker 1: and it didn't happen. And so yeah, in Pittsburgh, they 822 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 1: think Baltimore is getting getting an advantage, and in Baltimore 823 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,239 Speaker 1: they think they're getting screwed. When was the last time 824 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 1: you covered a Steeler team that had this well least 825 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 1: dramatic Steeler team in how many years? Well, you know, 826 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 1: it's funny because every year it seems to come up. 827 00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question Dan to two years 828 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 1: ago with the Levion Bell situation, in the Antonio Brown situation, 829 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,920 Speaker 1: I don't think that drama could ever be surpassed no 830 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 1: matter what happens. And I think because the Steelers is 831 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,360 Speaker 1: such a marquee team, and as you know, being in 832 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 1: the business, they are a team that moves the needle 833 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,320 Speaker 1: and because of that, they receive a lot of attention. 834 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,800 Speaker 1: It's also because they tend to have a lot of 835 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 1: the game's top stars. So and go back to Antonio 836 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 1: Brown and Levion Bell, so when those situations arise, they 837 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 1: get magnified and people pay attention because it is the Steelers, 838 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:36,799 Speaker 1: and so there always seems to be this cloud of 839 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 1: drama surrounding them. But let's face it, when you look 840 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 1: at their performance and their record, you know, Mike Thomins 841 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 1: never had a losing season in fourteen years. It's pretty 842 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it's testament to him and to the organization 843 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,719 Speaker 1: that they kind of forget their way through that and 844 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:58,040 Speaker 1: still still manage to be successful. Are they a balanced 845 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 1: team or they a defensive minded team? Well, you know 846 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 1: the funny thing right now, Dan, Aside from the fact 847 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,799 Speaker 1: that they don't run the ball very well, you know, 848 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,839 Speaker 1: their offense is as good as it's been. I mean, 849 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,920 Speaker 1: the only team in the AFC to score twenty four 850 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,279 Speaker 1: or more points in every game, even Kansas City can't 851 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:18,320 Speaker 1: say that. Ben Roethlisberger is having arguably his best season 852 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:24,799 Speaker 1: certainly statistically, and the run defense has actually suffered the 853 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,719 Speaker 1: last three four weeks. I think they're very well balanced team. 854 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 1: They're a team that can score points and to me, 855 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,400 Speaker 1: to me, Dan, they are the one team in the 856 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,239 Speaker 1: league that is equipped to stop any of these other offenses, 857 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,279 Speaker 1: including Kansas Cities. Now I'm not saying they will, but 858 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,279 Speaker 1: they are equipped to do it because you know, they 859 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 1: have all pros at all three levels. They can, they 860 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 1: sack the quarterback, they are, they have a larcen as secondary, 861 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: they take the ball away, and yeah, they're missing Devin Bush. 862 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,840 Speaker 1: I thought that was a big, big loss because I 863 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,600 Speaker 1: thought he was the one player they could least afford 864 00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,440 Speaker 1: to lose because they don't have anybody else like him. 865 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 1: But when you look at Kim Hayward and Stefan too 866 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 1: it upfront and you've got those two edge guys, what 867 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 1: dupree and then a really solid secondary with makea Fitzpatrick um. 868 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,400 Speaker 1: You know, they're they're they're equipped to play however you 869 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,240 Speaker 1: want to and to you know, bottle up a team 870 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,839 Speaker 1: as as as well as anybody. You know, they can 871 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,320 Speaker 1: do it. When does the possibility of an undefeated season 872 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 1: become a legitimate topic for the players to talk about. 873 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,960 Speaker 1: I think Buffalo, you know, once, if they can get 874 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:31,799 Speaker 1: past that in a couple of weeks, you know, see 875 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,319 Speaker 1: what happens with the Ravens. Then they have Washington, and 876 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 1: I know Washington's been scoring some points lately, but they 877 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,319 Speaker 1: are four and seven. Then they go to Buffalo, and 878 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 1: I think, excuse me, I think that will be the key. 879 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,920 Speaker 1: They can be twelve and o going to Buffalo, and 880 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 1: if they come through that at thirteen and oz um, 881 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,760 Speaker 1: then I think it becomes a very real possibility because 882 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 1: then it's then it's the Colts, and then it's still 883 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 1: you know, then it's the season ending game, and let's 884 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,799 Speaker 1: say the bye is still in place. Nothing has changed, 885 00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,279 Speaker 1: and they get a bye week, then what do you 886 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 1: do in week sixteen? Do you go for an unbeaten 887 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 1: season or do you back off a little bit um. 888 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 1: You know, I've talked to a couple of former coaches 889 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 1: around the league, and they think it's probably a good 890 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,360 Speaker 1: idea if they lose a game somewhere. I tend to agree, 891 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,799 Speaker 1: just to get the specter and the pressure of an 892 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 1: unbeaten season off their back, and you know, then start 893 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,960 Speaker 1: focusing on the postseason. So but I think I think 894 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 1: two or three weeks here when they had the Buffalo, 895 00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 1: it's going to be the key. Dan. Great to talk 896 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,720 Speaker 1: to you, Jerry. Thanks for making time have fun today. 897 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,480 Speaker 1: We appreciate it well. Dan, nice chatting with you. Jerry Doulac, 898 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,040 Speaker 1: he covers the Steelers for the Pittsburgh Post Gazette. Thanks 899 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure 900 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,399 Speaker 1: to catch us live every weekday morning nine to noon 901 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 1: Eastern or six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 902 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 1: Find your local station for The Dan Patrick Show at 903 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,120 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every 904 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:55,080 Speaker 1: day on the iHeartRadio app by searching f s R, 905 00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:59,880 Speaker 1: or stream us Live on the Peacock Act NBA's tenant 906 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:04,600 Speaker 1: of opening night doubleheader on TNT nets Warriors in Brooklyn, 907 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:10,319 Speaker 1: Lakers Clippers in Los Angeles. Sources tell the Athletic, all right, 908 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,720 Speaker 1: I'm fine with that, you know, of all the teams, 909 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,680 Speaker 1: I just want to see what the nets look like, 910 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 1: what it feels like after a month or so, just 911 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,960 Speaker 1: with Kyrie, Kevin Durant, Steve Nash is the head coach. 912 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,719 Speaker 1: Do they make any changes here? Do they go after 913 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,759 Speaker 1: James Harden? If I'm the Rockets, I'm not trading James Harden. 914 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 1: He may want to leave. Not trading you. I want 915 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,440 Speaker 1: to get two teams involved. If you say Brooklyn and 916 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,440 Speaker 1: Golden State is interested in James Harden, now we can 917 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,960 Speaker 1: talk about trading James Harden, but I'm not going to 918 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,319 Speaker 1: send him to where he wants to go. And if 919 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,759 Speaker 1: Golden State is interested in all right, well listen. But 920 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,880 Speaker 1: same with Russell Westbrook. You guys wanted it. You guys 921 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,000 Speaker 1: live in this and then until we get something that 922 00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 1: benefits us, We're not going to do something to benefit you. 923 00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:01,120 Speaker 1: Here is Kevin Durant with the media about the possibility 924 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:04,240 Speaker 1: of the Nets bringing in James Harden. Is there anything 925 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,759 Speaker 1: that you could share with us about that conversation, and 926 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,680 Speaker 1: then you relay that James wants to play with the 927 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 1: nets to Sean as soon as you hear something like that, 928 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,799 Speaker 1: I don't know where you're making these stories up that 929 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:21,440 Speaker 1: me and James talked about. Any of this set will workout? Like, 930 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,880 Speaker 1: I don't know where that came from. And James is 931 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:25,840 Speaker 1: a friend of mine, But I let the front office 932 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,960 Speaker 1: hand to all of that stuff. I was just so 933 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 1: focused on working out. I heard all the noise, and 934 00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,239 Speaker 1: I heard that, you know, James potentially wanted to come 935 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 1: to the next But anybody can make up stories. Anybody 936 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:42,000 Speaker 1: can write a story and it and it gets some traction, alrighty, 937 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:46,759 Speaker 1: So he heard that James might be interested, But as 938 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:50,319 Speaker 1: a friend and a former teammate, you wouldn't reach out 939 00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,360 Speaker 1: and just say, hey, I'm hearing all this noise. Is 940 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:58,760 Speaker 1: there anything to it? Like, wouldn't that just seem normal? Hey, James, 941 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,319 Speaker 1: just checking in with you? Tell me what's going on. 942 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,320 Speaker 1: If I can help it anyway, you know, I will. 943 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,399 Speaker 1: Is this where you want to come? Yeah? See, yeah, dude, 944 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,279 Speaker 1: you see in any of this? Hey, did you reach 945 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:13,000 Speaker 1: out to the nets or no, oh, okay, that'd be 946 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,800 Speaker 1: pretty cool though, yeah nothing, yeah, okay, Oh it's media 947 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,719 Speaker 1: making it up again, all right, So I figured, oh, 948 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,440 Speaker 1: so you don't want to come play with us, then 949 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:25,040 Speaker 1: oh okay, well then forget it. Remember the media when 950 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,879 Speaker 1: the media made that up about Kyrie and me when 951 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,600 Speaker 1: we got together at the All Star Game and we 952 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,919 Speaker 1: were huddling together and people said, you guys are gonna 953 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,600 Speaker 1: go You're gonna play together next year. All that's right. 954 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,080 Speaker 1: The media was right on that one, but not this 955 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,799 Speaker 1: time around. All right, Katie, how much patience does the 956 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,560 Speaker 1: New York media have with the Brooklyn Nets this year? 957 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,320 Speaker 1: That's what I want to know. I get this feeling 958 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:52,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna have a Katie Kyrie news boycott at some 959 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,880 Speaker 1: point during the season. We're not talking to you. I 960 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 1: got nothing to say. You guys are mean. Yeah, Paul, 961 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,359 Speaker 1: you can even go back years ago when Durant joined 962 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,440 Speaker 1: the Warriors. Remember he's like, yeah, there's nothing going on 963 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,040 Speaker 1: and nothing going on, and then all of a sudden, 964 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 1: Draymond Green goes, We've been talking since the moment I 965 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,560 Speaker 1: started texting on the bus after the finals. And remember 966 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,160 Speaker 1: there was nothing going on with him and uh and 967 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:21,080 Speaker 1: uh waum Draymond, Hey, there's nothing wrong. We're okay, well cool, Uh, 968 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:25,280 Speaker 1: Now there's something going on there. Yep. See what happens 969 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,439 Speaker 1: when there's one mistake at the end of a game 970 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,960 Speaker 1: and they say, uh, Kevin, can you tell us which 971 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,680 Speaker 1: coach made that call? Was it you? Was it Kyrie? 972 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:36,719 Speaker 1: Was it Steve Nash? Can you can you tell us 973 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,399 Speaker 1: who made that call at the end of the game. Yeah. 974 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,480 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 975 00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,640 Speaker 1: Patrick Show week days at nine am Eastern six am 976 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:48,440 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio WAP