1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio. 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 2: Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning. 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 3: Happy happy, Uh Saturday, Fox Sports Saturday to all across 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 3: the country. Hope everybody's Christmas was beautiful. Everybody's how they 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 3: season going spectacular? Danny DBA D is with me. I'm 6 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 3: Anthony Gargana. We are the uh of the Fellas and 7 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 3: together it's Project Nil and you heard the man. We 8 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 3: dive into all things from youth sports through high school 9 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 3: and college and UH dive everything around this ever changing landscape. 10 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 2: Good morning, Danny. 11 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 4: D what's going on? Cause how we doing? 12 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 2: Brother? Merry Christmas? 13 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 4: Merry Christmas. How was your Christmas? You have a good one. 14 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're very low key, relaxing. 15 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 3: We did the cooked the fish Christmas Eve. What happens 16 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 3: is we do we do Christmas Eve and like we 17 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 3: go deep into to the night. So because we go 18 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 3: deep into the night, Christmas is usually a relaxed. 19 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: We'd of a relaxing deck. 20 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 4: Gotcha that was yours? It was good, It was It 21 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 4: was busy. I had thirty people at the house, a 22 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 4: lot of Yeah, it was good, but it went well. 23 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 4: It was it was tiring, right, everyone kind of had 24 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 4: some family come in. So you know they're they're wrapping up, 25 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 4: they're leaving now. So over today. 26 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 2: So what did your father make? 27 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 4: He had made a lot of cutlets. We had a lasagna, 28 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 4: We had some pasta, We had some stuff shells. 29 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, all the goods, all the cutlets and the stuff shells. 30 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 2: So that's a good day. It's a good day. 31 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 32 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: I love it, love it, love it, love it. 33 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 3: And uh we all watched some sports, some good football 34 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 3: from actually some good hoops. Actually the NBA was it 35 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 3: was on display. I thought Christmas Day. 36 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I loved it. My only my only beef is 37 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 4: when these football games are on and they're on Netflix. 38 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 4: You can't bounce back and forth, you know. Yes, that's 39 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 4: my that's my great with it. I love the FEAT 40 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 4: was on. But if you want to get a little 41 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 4: football action, you want to switch during the breaks or 42 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 4: the quarters, you can't. Well you can, it's just it's difficult. 43 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 4: You gotta you gotta change. 44 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 3: You're gonna get out of it. You gotta get out 45 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 3: right like that's that's the biggest problem. You gotta get 46 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 3: out of the app. 47 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 4: A little frustrating when you're trying to enjoy a beautiful 48 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 4: sports day. You know, so I'll they'll figure it out. 49 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 4: They'll figure out ways to split the screen better with 50 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 4: the apps. I don't know. Netflix is mind everything, so 51 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 4: who knows that they'll have a couple. 52 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: Of years and everybody's heavy into sports. 53 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 3: That's the that's the one lesson and that you know, 54 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 3: you talk to anybody in television and uh, you know, 55 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 3: streaming and everything, and they all want sports content, everybody 56 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 3: because we are a nation that's wild over sport. And 57 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 3: that's why we do this show because we follow all 58 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 3: this stuff from a young age. Hey, real quick, Kyle 59 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 3: Whittingham goes to Michigan. I think, listen, under the circumstances, 60 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 3: that's a good hire. He's a good coach. 61 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 4: It reminds me of PSU. Like I thought, they ended 62 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 4: up getting a really good coach. I did to process 63 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,119 Speaker 4: with sloppy right now they got you know, they landed there. 64 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 4: Michigan kind of fell in the same boat where like 65 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 4: it looked like it was going to be disaster and 66 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 4: they ended up getting a really solid coach who was 67 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 4: going to be like, who would have been a top 68 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 4: five to top ten guy on her board? Initially I 69 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 4: would think right, but just the way it played out. 70 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 2: It was. 71 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 4: It was a weird process, much like Penn State. 72 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 3: But yeah, bothtate to go with Matt Campbell, and you're right, 73 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: like both both pets stake Michigan wind up kind of 74 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 3: I think luck it out in a big way. 75 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: You're right, it could have been. It could have been 76 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 2: a disaster. How does it work now? 77 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 3: Like you come in now and you got the clip 78 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 3: for a year, it's a lot of clean up just 79 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 3: because of where the portal is, where the recruiting a 80 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 3: windows are. 81 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think you try to taining some 82 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 4: solid amount of the previous staff who've been working on guys. 83 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 4: So therefore, when this portal opens, you guys are ready 84 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 4: to go. You have a board, and then you kind 85 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 4: of you pick from where you were. You're trying to 86 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 4: take the best if you're going up like they both 87 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 4: kind of went up level, you go take the best 88 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 4: the way you had, and then you try to flip 89 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 4: some recruits because since he left, he can the guys 90 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 4: who committed to Utah are now open because they committed 91 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 4: when he was there. Right, Let's similar to Matt Campbell. 92 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 4: He I think you were flipped seven or eight kids 93 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 4: who were Iowa State commits have already flipped to Penn State. 94 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 4: So they had a recruiting class of two on signing day. 95 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 4: Now they're up to ten of incoming freshmen. And then 96 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 4: I guess they'll be incredibly active January second, the day 97 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 4: the portal opens. They're gonna be shopping. They're they're gonna 98 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 4: have the book open, and they're gonna be throwing some 99 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 4: money around, and they're gonna be very aggressive in the portal. 100 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,799 Speaker 3: Well, it's gonna be wild because it's January second, which 101 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 3: means it's Friday. It's it's basically this coming Friday, Yes, 102 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 3: and it's gonna be wild. The amount of money that's 103 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 3: gonna be spent. I don't think we understand that. It's 104 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 3: like free agency in the NFL. You know when the 105 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 3: free agent periods open in the NFL in March, and like, oh. 106 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: Free agents open. 107 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 3: It's gonna be like we're gonna get to know a 108 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 3: lot of these kids through it, Like this is the 109 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 3: this is the first real wave of free agency in 110 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 3: college football. 111 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 4: And it's exactly. That's a great example. And the funny 112 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 4: part is, you know an NBA they're like, how did 113 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 4: these guys sign? The second it opened? Up right, like 114 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 4: how did they? 115 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: How was it? 116 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 4: Who was talking to who? Right? Like the second it 117 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 4: opens there's contracts. There's gonna be like that in n 118 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 4: C DOAA and college football, no visits. They're gonna be 119 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 4: signing because it's just gonna be money, right, I'm sure. 120 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 4: And they've already had these conversations like this is unwritten rule. 121 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 4: We're like we're you know, we're not talking. We're not 122 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 4: talking to anybody in free agency. You know, we're not tampering. 123 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 4: And then you know, the window opens and people have 124 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 4: already having an agreement signed. 125 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:08,559 Speaker 2: For five years. 126 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 4: Right, It's going to be like that in college it's 127 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 4: going to be. 128 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: So it's funny. I heard. 129 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 3: I heard, like you got guys that are like sneaking 130 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 3: their cell service and they're not tracked. 131 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 2: There's all kinds of stuff going on. 132 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 4: But because the gphones out there, man, yeah, I. 133 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 3: Mean it's unbelievable. It's like, uh, it's almost like the 134 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,239 Speaker 3: other world. It's it's crazy stuff. 135 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 2: It really is. Hey. 136 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 3: By the way, feeding off the success of our college 137 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,799 Speaker 3: for our college basketball bracket challenge each March, we decided 138 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 3: to hear Fox Sports right here to do a bracket 139 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 3: Challenge for the College Football Playoff. 140 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 2: That's right. 141 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 3: With eight teams left standing in college football, it's Bracket 142 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 3: Challenge time. 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I wouldn't be 153 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 4: surprised if anyone at this stage took it, to be 154 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 4: honest with you, yeah, I mean I think there's a 155 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 4: lot of parody. I in the bracket. I filled it out. 156 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 4: I got Georgia winning in the bracket, but you got Georgia. Yeah, 157 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 4: it had to be a little different. 158 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 159 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 4: Again, I wouldn't be surprised. I think there's four or 160 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 4: five teams that all could win it. 161 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 3: I think there's five team I mean, look, obviously, Ohio 162 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 3: State and Indiana and Oregon and Georgia, and I like 163 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 3: Texas Tech. 164 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 4: I was gonna say, Texas Tech. They're legit, man, this 165 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 4: tech is legit. 166 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 2: I like to see it. I like to see Texas 167 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: Tech and make that run. It be something new, you know, 168 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,559 Speaker 2: I like to say it. I Andy, Look, that's what's 169 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 2: the portal. 170 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 3: And you know part of project down Al is when 171 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 3: the portal opens on Friday. 172 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 2: All that money. 173 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 3: Now, we always hear of a salary cap, but in essence, 174 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 3: there really is no cap and what you could pay kids. 175 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, so they say there is, but there's not, right, 176 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 4: So there's We touched on this a little bit before. 177 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 4: But the way it works now, as of July one, 178 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 4: NCAA says the schools have twenty one million dollars to 179 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 4: spend across all sports. Right, So that's what the school's 180 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 4: allowed to pay people. However, there's a secondary market called 181 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 4: the collective right, which is where boosters fund and there's 182 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 4: a lot of money that comes into it, and it's 183 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 4: there's oversight by a third party, which is Deloitte consultant company, 184 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 4: So they'll have oversight and they'll have to say you 185 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 4: don't have to justify your deal. So if you're saying, hey, 186 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 4: we're going to pay this sky for advertising for a 187 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 4: car dealership, they'll say, okay, well, this is the value 188 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 4: he brings. He's this star recruit, he is this social 189 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 4: media following. Okay you can do this, or no, this 190 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 4: is too much money for this thing. The way I 191 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 4: see it is that the loophole is coaches and universities 192 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 4: will push kids who have big followings to the collective, 193 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 4: and the people who have small followings they'll pay from 194 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 4: their twenty one million, right, So there's a way to 195 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 4: kind of get the best of both worlds and spend 196 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 4: you know, like LSU and these schools when they get 197 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 4: these new coaches, they're saying, oh, we're committing to spend 198 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 4: thirty to thirty five million each year on your roster. 199 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 4: So right there, they're fifteen million over their cap for 200 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 4: the school, right just on football. So that's coming from 201 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 4: the collective that over. 202 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, do say you can spend twenty one million well 203 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 3: across all sports and LSU spending thirty five one football alone. 204 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 2: Thinking about that, Yeah, it's. 205 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 4: It's crazy, right. So again they're basically saying now they'll 206 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 4: have to justify it through this third party and through 207 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 4: the collective. But it's it's a wild setup. And I 208 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 4: understand they're still figuring it out, and you know, we'll 209 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 4: touch on stories that they're still trying to figure out. 210 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 4: But it's a wild it's a wild scene, and I 211 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 4: think every year for the next couple it's still gonna 212 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 4: be wild until we actually really settle in on this. 213 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 3: Have you now any denials? I don't think it's a lloy, 214 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 3: which is the accounting friend that you talked about. Have 215 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 3: they I have not read of any denials of deals. 216 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 4: No, I think because I think the universities are smart 217 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 4: about it, like they're playing the kind of how I said, 218 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 4: like they'll push the big social media following people towards that. Right, 219 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 4: if you have one hundred thousand followers, you can justify 220 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 4: paying someone called million dollars to advertise for your car 221 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 4: dealership or you know, yeah your business. 222 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and therein lies not just the loophole. It 223 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 3: really just makes it. There's really no difference. I was 224 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 3: having this conversation with a buddy of mine who who 225 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 3: actually wrote the movie Blue Chips. All right, his name's 226 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 3: Ron Shelton. He's an incredible guy. Did bull Dorm with 227 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 3: a bunch of movies. So Ron and I were talking 228 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 3: about this, and it's interesting because you know, back then 229 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 3: it was The Card Dealer. 230 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 2: Think about that movie. Did you just see the movie? 231 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 4: Yes? 232 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 3: Okay, so you know it's the nineties, all right, So 233 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 3: it's you know, thirty years ago, and it's college basketball, 234 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 3: and it's Shack and Penny and all, and they're buying players. 235 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 3: And the premise of the movie Blue Chips is there's 236 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 3: a coach played by Nick Nolty and it looks like 237 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 3: UCLA and he's trying to rebuild the program. So they've 238 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 3: gotten by these players, but they get shock from the 239 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 3: you know, the Bayou, they get Penny hard away from Chicago, 240 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 3: they get a kid from Indiana would shoot the ball, 241 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 3: and they right like they're they're they're getting bags of money. 242 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 3: There's a big car dealer who's the number one booster 243 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 3: Happy and Happy is got all the cash and he's buying, 244 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 3: you know, a tractor for the kidd Indiana, his father, 245 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 3: I love the tractor, a duffel bag full of cash, 246 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 3: like all this stuff. And in reality, there is no difference. 247 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 3: Now like what what are you really doing? Except now 248 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 3: it's above board and that you're gonna kids will pay 249 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 3: taxes on. 250 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 4: The money exactly exactly, No, you're right, I mean they're 251 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 4: paying taxes. It's going to be taxing. Yeah, it's just 252 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 4: it's just out in the open. Now you don't have 253 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 4: to there's no bags of cash anymore, right, well, there 254 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 4: still might be who knows, like if they want to 255 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 4: go over and the collectives saying no, maybe they will 256 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 4: start slipping bags of cash, right like. 257 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 3: You know, and in this world like what like it's 258 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 3: it's crazy, damn it stuff. 259 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean again, and we talk about a weekly story. 260 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 4: It's wild. We start the show and we talk every week. 261 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 4: There's more stories that we don't even get to that 262 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 4: are still coming up each week. Like they're giving us 263 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 4: more content than we ever could even talk about in 264 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 4: the year because of how just how it changes every 265 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 4: so quickly every week. 266 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 2: You know. 267 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 3: Well, and this leads us to the big story I 268 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 3: want to talk about this week. And this comes from basketball, 269 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 3: all right, because this is wild. Now, there was a 270 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 3: G League player and it just came out that this 271 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 3: G League player is going to now go to college. 272 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 4: James Naji. 273 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 2: It's unreal, it's crazy. 274 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 4: So he's twenty one years old. He was drafted in 275 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 4: two thy and twenty three as a thirty first overall pick, 276 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 4: so he hasn't he never played college basketball, came from Overseas, 277 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 4: was drafted thirty first overall, played professionally Overseas, never signed 278 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,719 Speaker 4: with an NBA like a full contract, you know, he 279 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 4: just they just had his rights. He played in the 280 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 4: G League but never played an NBA game, So therefore 281 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 4: he is eligible in these rules to go to college 282 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 4: and play now. So he just committed the ball and 283 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 4: will be playing the second half of the season for them. 284 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 2: So how old is he? 285 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 4: Twenty one? So he has four years, but soon coming 286 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 4: down they're just going to say you have five years 287 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 4: of college, you know, coase the red shirt. They're they're 288 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 4: moving towards that. There's a lot of steam behind. 289 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 3: It, right Basically, it's like you get a five year window, 290 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 3: that's it. 291 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, So this dude's gonna be playing until he's twenty six, 292 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 4: twenty seven if he stays, like, if he gets over 293 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 4: five years, and that is it's going to be you know, 294 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 4: it's legal, it's real. And this is where I think 295 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 4: college sports is kind of heading right now, and it's 296 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 4: scary and it hurts the kids, you know, it hurts 297 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 4: the high school process. It's it's just it's just a 298 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 4: crazy thing that you know, this is allowed. And this 299 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 4: is not just about him, Like we don't want to 300 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 4: trash James Nauge. He's this is the system. This is 301 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 4: about the system, man, Like this system is broken a 302 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 4: lot of ways where we're this can happen, Like this 303 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 4: guy was drafted thirty first overall three years ago and 304 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 4: he's not violating any rules now, but he's coming in. 305 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 4: He's because you make more money in college than you're 306 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 4: doing the G League. 307 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 3: Well, it's so it's funny. You and I were texting 308 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 3: about this last night. I had a buddy of mine 309 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 3: who's an agent, and Derek, can you Derek Brooks, We 310 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 3: are a great guy. 311 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 2: Right. 312 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 3: So he's an agent and he has a lot of guys, 313 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 3: a lot of like a lot of kids on the frame. Right, 314 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 3: there's a lot of European contracts. He's got like a 315 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 3: ton of kids and a lot of G League kids. 316 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 3: And there was a player. 317 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 2: That he had. 318 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 3: That he was trying to get on a two way 319 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 3: contract and the max to two way contracts a million dollars. 320 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 2: That's the max and that's it. 321 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 4: They like make it you hit the max amount of 322 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 4: games and they make it a full contract at the end. 323 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 3: Yes, right, Well, the father of this kid one A 324 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty thousand. His name is London Johnson. 325 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 3: So the father wanted two point five million, and he's like, 326 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 3: there's no way in the world. So because of that, 327 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 3: he said, We're gonna go to Louisville to play because 328 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 3: Louisville will pay offs the two five crazy, right, Like. 329 00:16:58,840 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 2: How about that? 330 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 4: And it's crazy because this has always existed. NCAA eligibility 331 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 4: is tied to like contracts, not experience, right, which is 332 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 4: which is wild. So it's like based off the NBA 333 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 4: contract means, you know, if you don't sign the NBA contract, 334 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 4: you still have eligibility nil money doesn't count as professional pay, 335 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 4: which is wild. Right, So the rule book never imagine 336 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 4: this scenario when these rules were made, right, no one 337 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 4: ever imagined the scenario. You played overseas you're making so much. 338 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 4: You know you're making a couple hundred grand, Well, you're 339 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 4: done with college, right, You're never coming back over you're 340 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 4: getting paid every year because you're not getting paid in 341 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 4: college So like no one ever did this, This always existed, 342 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 4: which I was baffled by. I didn't know this ever existed, 343 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 4: but it never made sense to do it. 344 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 3: Well now it does, right because now because colleges are paying, 345 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 3: and they're paying good money, why would you why would 346 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 3: you play overseas? Why would you go? 347 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 2: Did g league? 348 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 3: Well, it has to fold, there's no place for it. 349 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 4: Oh greed, I don't know what's going to turn into. 350 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 4: And like NIL didn't break this. Nil just exposed this 351 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 4: flaw of this rule. Right, Like this isn't like an 352 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 4: NIL rule. This existed. It's just NIL just exposed these 353 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 4: rules that we had in place for college basketball forever. Right, 354 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 4: this money now being able to be paid. They didn't 355 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 4: think about these rules that they already had in place. 356 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 4: It's gonna it's gonna hurt their smaller schools even more, right, 357 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 4: just gonna struggle. They're going to struggle even more. The 358 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 4: power programs they're gonna benefit. You know, it's gonna be 359 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 4: the haves and have not. So we've been talking about 360 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 4: this and youth sports and training and recruiting is like 361 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,719 Speaker 4: we just talked about it's free agency. Eh, it's literally 362 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 4: becoming free agency. 363 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 3: Well, you know it's wild too, Like to your point, 364 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 3: did you remember a few years ago there was a 365 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 3: there was talk that kids bypass college and they playing college, 366 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 3: they would just go play the G League or go 367 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 3: overseas right and and college basketball was going to take 368 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 3: a huge hit and the game was gonna was going 369 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 3: to shift to more of an amateur game where you're 370 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 3: not gonna have your elite of the elite, we're not 371 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 3: going to play college basketball. 372 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 4: Brandon Jennings, Emmanuel Moodier. Remember they like going overseas right 373 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 4: right out of high school, top prospects. 374 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 2: And it would happen. It flipped back on it's ear yep. 375 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 3: And now it's like all these other places don't exist. 376 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 3: Why would you when you could go to BYU get 377 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 3: get back. 378 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 4: Oh one so more And these guys, these more drafted players, 379 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 4: but unsigned players, they're coming back to college. Like for 380 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 4: the foreign guys, like there's still like a window we 381 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,479 Speaker 4: have to say if you're staying interstaying out, if you're 382 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 4: coming out of college. But these foreign guys can just 383 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 4: entered your raft freely. They don't have this window. And 384 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 4: if they get drafted, and they're saying Hey, you're not. 385 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 4: You're not going to guarantee contract. They're gonna bounce. They're 386 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 4: gonna come to college. Now, they're gonna come to the 387 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 4: States and get into college. 388 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's wild. All right, Let's take a pin, put 389 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 3: a pending that will come right back. Continue. So what 390 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 3: is Congress rolling in this thing? So is that the 391 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 3: next step? We got to ask that and then what 392 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 3: happens You talked about the disparity. I want to dive 393 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 3: into it between the bigger schools and. 394 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 2: The smaller schools. 395 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 3: And you know, let's look at it for football too, 396 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 3: because we saw what happened to James Madison. What's the 397 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 3: future there. It's all intertwined. This is Project do Il 398 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 3: Danny dba D. I'm Anthony G the sports Dad. One 399 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 3: of the fellas is. We hang out every week Project 400 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 3: do Il on Fox Sports Radio. 401 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 402 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: the nation. 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You took those clips 414 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: totally of context. 415 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, well after this promo, I'm gonna take you 416 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 5: out and beat you. 417 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 4: Let me put this into context. Shut up. 418 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 419 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 5: Anyway, just listening to the Polly and Tony Foodsco Show 420 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 5: on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts O wherever you get your podcasts. 421 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, welcome back. 422 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 3: Project Nil, Denni Di Bernadidas, Ad Penn Shorter, I'm uh, 423 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 3: Anthony Garganta, the Fellas together to Project Nil right here 424 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 3: every week ont and Fox Sports Radio. So let's kind 425 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 3: of dive into what it means for the high school athlete. 426 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 3: Right Like, we're having this conversation and all of a sudden, 427 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 3: you got European kids coming over that are twenty six 428 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 3: years old that could legitimately play up until the twenty 429 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 3: six years old. 430 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 2: How does that impact high school kids? 431 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's tough, and I mean, and we've talked about this, 432 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 4: you know, pretty weekly, we kind of touch base on 433 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 4: how it's affecting these kids, and it's it's again, it's changing, 434 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 4: so it's this week, it's different, right, These rules keep changing, 435 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 4: so again there's less spots. And the message for me 436 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 4: to a lot of student athletes is, I believe if 437 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 4: you know, if you're a divisional athlete, you could be 438 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 4: a Division one athlete and not get a Division one 439 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 4: scholarship right now. So if that's your dream and that's 440 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 4: your goal to play at that level, you have to 441 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 4: look at it and have it more open to a 442 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 4: different route. 443 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 2: Right. 444 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 4: You might have to go Division two, you might have 445 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 4: to do a junior college, you might have to do 446 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 4: JUCO right, and be patient with this process. And it's 447 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 4: not fair, I don't think, and it's not right for 448 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 4: these kids to have to deal with it because it's 449 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,239 Speaker 4: just changed. But that's the landscape we're in. And you know, 450 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 4: the system changed, and the language hasn't caught up yet, 451 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 4: right because they opened up Pandora's box and didn't really 452 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 4: put the parameters on it. Now, and like the story 453 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 4: about this guy coming over, you know this, James Naji, 454 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 4: this is this is a deception. This is like a 455 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 4: warning sign right. I mean college sports is becoming professional, right, 456 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 4: whether we want to admit it or not. And we're here. 457 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 4: This show is great, I think for a lot of 458 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 4: people because we're trying to give them people an understanding 459 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 4: of reality and how to try to navigate this. Like 460 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 4: we say, ever changing landscape, right, it changes week to 461 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 4: week right now, So it. 462 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 3: Almost feels like if I got a kid, well, actually, 463 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 3: let's go back even further. It feels like there needs 464 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 3: to now be a two year like a junior collp 465 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 3: like you talked about Juco. You just mentioned Juco. Maybe 466 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 3: there needs to be a new system where kids can 467 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 3: go from eighteen to twenty so you could go play 468 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 3: Juco now. I know it doesn't count against eligibility, which 469 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 3: will help the Juco landscape, but maybe there needs to 470 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 3: be more of a junior college landscape, more of a 471 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 3: two year kind of landscape where it's like the minor 472 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 3: league to college. 473 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 4: And you were just read, in my mind, this is 474 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 4: professional sports, right. This is we're talking about a farm system, man, 475 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 4: you know, like having a two year farm system to 476 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,719 Speaker 4: develop and grow, right. I mean that's the way it 477 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 4: clicked in my brain when you were saying it. Like 478 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 4: it makes sense to me and your right, But the 479 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 4: thing my mind is automatically goes to, yeah, it's a 480 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 4: farm system. 481 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 3: So because there needs to be like a way station, 482 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 3: there needs to be something for people to go, for 483 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 3: kids to go and hone their skills. Like I get it, 484 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 3: there's going to be lower rung programs that they can 485 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 3: go to, but it almost makes more sense to have 486 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 3: a JUCO landscape or I don't know, or maybe you 487 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 3: have a two tiered system where you have you know, 488 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 3: Division two, Division three schools kind of fill that bill, 489 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 3: but they shouldn't be allowed, but the clocks shouldn't run 490 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 3: on them. 491 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 4: Agreed. No, I completely agree with that, and I think, 492 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 4: I mean, there's been no proof of this, but I 493 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 4: think teens might start like stashing kids right like you 494 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 4: used to, like put him at a JUCO right that's 495 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 4: closer to school, Say hey, we want you a couple 496 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 4: of years develop, keep developing, and you know, we'll stay 497 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 4: close to you at our programs like Ivy's have done 498 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 4: that historically because you can't red shirt at an IVY 499 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 4: League school, right, So historically, if an IVY League school 500 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 4: wanted you, but they thought you needed some development they'd 501 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 4: put you at a JUCO or you know, you know, 502 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 4: a graduate school for a year to kind of statu 503 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 4: you Ivy's have done it forever. I think it might 504 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 4: become more prominent across all colleges to try to do that. 505 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 4: And I think there's gonna be a more of an 506 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 4: explosion on the JUCO market, right, These JUCO schools are 507 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 4: going to become more prominent because they're needed. 508 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, whi's going to add, which is it's going 509 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 2: to add another light, right, so another wrinkle. Right, So 510 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 2: so let's say. 511 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 3: There is an explosion in the juco world, all right, 512 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 3: and there's I don't know, fifty junior college programs that 513 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 3: just kind of pop up. Then all of a sudden, 514 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 3: you know what's going to happen, right, Like it's gonna 515 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 3: be pretty good basketball. So so how long until they go? Well, 516 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 3: we also have a tournament with these fifty juko right yeah, 517 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 3: and you know whatever, you gotta give a few bucks. 518 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 3: Like it's like never ending because as long as games 519 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 3: are televised, No, I don't see any end to the 520 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 3: sports explosion, but I guess it could top off. But 521 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 3: the issue and it all goes back to TV right, 522 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 3: because the issue is nobody the only time people will 523 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 3: watch a commercial is if it's in sports, if it's 524 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 3: a live event. Otherwise you want to watch a TV show, 525 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 3: that's great, nobody's watching it at the time it's supposed 526 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 3: to be on, right, So that's why it's all demand 527 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 3: and nobody wants to watch commercial rather not watch the show, then. 528 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 2: Sit through a commercial. 529 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 4: You nailed it, right, and then it's just it's going 530 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 4: to continue to grow. I mean, we talked about this 531 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,719 Speaker 4: last week, forty billion dollars as you sports. Right now, 532 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 4: it's a forty billion dollar industry, you sports, So just 533 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 4: imagine how that's gonna look like and continue to trickle 534 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 4: down from the college level. So that's why I think 535 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 4: the ceiling we don't know what it is yet, right, 536 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 4: this is is this massive industry that's just you know, 537 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 4: we don't we don't have the we don't have the 538 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 4: answers yet on how it's going to play out. 539 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 3: Well, I'm almost like wonder ain't like if you're a 540 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 3: kid that's a decent ballplayer, but you know you're not 541 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 3: gonna be able to go to a school right away, 542 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 3: Like you're not gonna be able to go to a conference, 543 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 3: big power five conference right away. 544 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 2: What do you do? 545 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I guess we got to continue 546 00:28:58,400 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 4: to see how it plays out. I think there's gonna 547 00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 4: be a lot of changing. You know, we people are 548 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 4: just going to keep evolving, and we just got to 549 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 4: kind of buckle down and get in for the ride 550 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 4: and see you know me and you keep digging and 551 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 4: figuring out ways to educate you know, listeners and people 552 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 4: across the country on how it changing, because I don't 553 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 4: people don't know the answers to this, and it's it's again, 554 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 4: it's a we're writing, we're writing history. We're in history 555 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 4: right now. We are writing history right now. This is 556 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 4: uncharted territory. 557 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 2: So you sent me a piece. 558 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 3: It's interesting because, uh, one of the ads that you're 559 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 3: close with, Jill Bodensteiner from Saint Joseph University, testified before 560 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 3: Congress when they were talking about reclassifying NCAA athletes as 561 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 3: employees and how that would have a disastrous effect on education. 562 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 4: Yes, so I think education is the the hill that 563 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 4: they're going to try to fight on to try to 564 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 4: put more parameters on this because ultimately, at the end 565 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 4: of the day, we only we're saying it's professional, we're 566 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 4: saying it's you know, pro am or whatever it is. 567 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 4: It's still college and you can't transfer four times and 568 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 4: get a degree because transfer credits don't always bounce around 569 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 4: and it's really hard. So at the end of the day, 570 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 4: it is college. It is school. I think that's how 571 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 4: they can put parameters on it without violating you know, 572 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 4: these these student athletes civil rights with pay to play, 573 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 4: you know. 574 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, but like I get it, and that's nice, but dude, 575 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 3: what does that mean? 576 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 2: Right? 577 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 3: Like, because ultimately it is it is. It is professional 578 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 3: basketball and football. Like they could sit and argue all 579 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 3: day long. Well you know the nine revenue sports. Well, 580 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 3: you know, basketball and football are big time revenue and 581 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 3: some in baseball to some extent, and they almost need 582 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 3: to be. It's separate. They're your own separate business, you know. 583 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 4: And on that like, there has been Congress is starting 584 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 4: to get involved in it, right, so good or bad, right, 585 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 4: But there's bills that are in progress. Nothing has been 586 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 4: put in the law yet, but there's multiple things that 587 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 4: have been raised this year to try to, you know, 588 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 4: create some framework for rights and competition rules in college. 589 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 4: They're trying to put you know, deals around and set 590 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 4: rules on how institutions and agents interact with these deals. 591 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 4: So there's a lot of different things that are again 592 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 4: we're in history seeing them play out at this you know, 593 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 4: government level where you know Congress is involved in your statement. 594 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 4: You know you're gonna have your governors involved, and there's 595 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 4: going to be something that you know is just again 596 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 4: we're we're gonna see it for the first time. 597 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just it's wild, man, It's funny. Every week, 598 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 3: I think, while can't get more insane, the chaos of it, 599 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 3: but it does, Like this is every week now. Meanwhile, 600 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 3: the trickle down effect is what you just said. And 601 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 3: next week we have baseball workouts. Yeah, like we're just 602 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 3: starting the basketball Like I think my team's played two games. 603 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 2: We're one on one all right, all. 604 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 3: Right, but like baseball starts and then and then shortly 605 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 3: after that, football training, like all season football training starts. 606 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's that money yet behind it, right. 607 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 2: Why, it's just crazy, Dad, It's nuts. 608 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 3: How do you I'm real curious kind of how you 609 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 3: look at this from a from a high school a 610 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 3: d standpoint. All right, so kind of take me into 611 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 3: your world for a moment as all this stuff starts 612 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 3: to explode right around us, and then we I I 613 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 3: do want to touch on college football and should there 614 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 3: be two separate leagues? So let's kind of start let's 615 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 3: go there. I mean, the show flies by, so we 616 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 3: got one more segment to hang and this is Project 617 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 3: Nil hanging out right here on Fox Sports Radio. 618 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: Don't listen to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 619 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 3: Welcome back Project Nil. Danny dibertadinas d A D Danny 620 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 3: d Dad. I'm Anthony Guard. 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So I want to 628 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 3: get Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcast. 629 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 3: You'll find today's full show posted right after we get 630 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 3: off the air. So where does this go on your desk? 631 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 3: But how are you impacted? 632 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's it's dealing with frustrated you know, kids, right, 633 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 4: Like I'm dealing with it right now. I have a 634 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 4: kid who's definitely a Division one level football player, and 635 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 4: he just has to be really patient. He's a senior, right, 636 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 4: And I'm telling them be patient. He wants to know 637 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 4: what's going to happen next year, right, And I'm just 638 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 4: I'm just saying, hey, we have to be patient. We 639 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 4: have to see how this portal goes. 640 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 2: Right. 641 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 4: These kids are getting pushed and pushed and pushed to 642 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 4: figure it out. And I'm saying to them also like 643 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 4: I know it's your dream, but also like let's think 644 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 4: about it. Like there's really good D three schools that 645 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 4: have your major right that you know, you know, and 646 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 4: kids don't want to hear that, right they I'm a 647 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 4: Division one player, you know, but I'm trying to, you know, 648 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 4: preach patients, and I'm trying to, you know, just show 649 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 4: them other avenues that can really help them and grow 650 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 4: as a person. Right, And I tell them our truth. 651 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 4: I'm a numbers guy, say, hey, one percent of one 652 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 4: percent are making it professionally, right, and if you do 653 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 4: great at D three, you're gonna get the nod. You're 654 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 4: gonna call you up, Bud, so like, stick it out, 655 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 4: be patient, and I know it's not fair, like just 656 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 4: empathizing with them but also telling them, trying to give 657 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 4: them a plan to try to work through. And I'm 658 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 4: telling them it's new to me too, right, So there 659 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 4: is no playbook right now. We're writing it as we go, 660 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 4: and that could be frustrating for a seventeen year old 661 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 4: kid to hear. Right, he's they wanted, They want the answers, right, 662 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 4: they they've Why is it different for them now than 663 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 4: it was for everyone that came before them? 664 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 2: So do you think he so? You think he is 665 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 2: a Division one player? 666 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 4: I think he can play. Yes, I think he is 667 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,760 Speaker 4: a mid to low Division one player. But the portal 668 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 4: is real, and teams in those areas, even the smaller colleges, 669 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,359 Speaker 4: wait to see, right, see how it all shakes out, 670 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,359 Speaker 4: see where their roster goes. So offers are coming much 671 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 4: later for kids who fall in that low division one end. 672 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 4: I have another kid who decided to prep a year 673 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 4: to get outer an extra year, and he has an 674 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,839 Speaker 4: offer as a twenty seven college they're offering. You say, hey, okay, yeah, 675 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 4: we like you, but we're not going to offer he's 676 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 4: a twenty six, we offer he's a twenty seven. 677 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 3: Wow, a twenty seven, you know, so they're now doing that. 678 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 2: I didn't know that they're actually doing that now. 679 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, So he's an offer as a twenty seven. So 680 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 4: he's going to prep do like a fifth year of 681 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 4: high school at a school where he can do that. 682 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 4: And you know, he says, I wish I would have 683 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 4: reclassed when I came in as a you know, as 684 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 4: a seventh grade or eighth grader, right, but the rules 685 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 4: weren't what they are now, right, So you didn't know. 686 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 3: Well, that was my next question that you just took 687 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 3: from me, which is what about the reclass Like if 688 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 3: they do reclass almost now at some point you're you're 689 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 3: almost forced to reclass. 690 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, and a lot of states sociations don't allow it, 691 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 4: so like you have to be at independent schools. It's 692 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 4: tough to do it at public schools. There's a lot 693 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 4: of rules around it, which I think isn't fair. With 694 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 4: the college landscape changing how it is, I think they 695 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 4: need to reevaluate that and look a little deeper into it, 696 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 4: saying what are we doing, Like why are we putting 697 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 4: such parameters on this ability? You know, these kids eligibility 698 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 4: when there's no real rules at the next level. But 699 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 4: we're want to have these we want to be stickers 700 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 4: about rules right now. You know you have you evaluate 701 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 4: the landscape. 702 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not fair to kids now, No. 703 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 4: Agree, And that's that's what they're saying to me. Answer. 704 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 4: That's the tough conversation I'm having right is you know, 705 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 4: I'm trying to empathize and you know, be there for 706 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,280 Speaker 4: them and you know, try to give them the guidance 707 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 4: and advice that they need. But it's also you know, 708 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 4: kids are literally he literally said to me, like, why 709 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 4: is it different from me than it was? 710 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 2: You know, Oh my god, your heart had to break. 711 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,319 Speaker 4: It's awful. Yeah, it's really it's difficult, and you know, 712 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 4: I just you know, just try to be there for 713 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 4: them and be positive and just say, hey, we're going 714 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:00,839 Speaker 4: to work through this and are going to figure it out, 715 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 4: and you know, patience. Right That's That's what I'm just 716 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 4: preaching right now. 717 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 2: I mean, what do you tell it. Here's the other thing. 718 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 3: It's easy for us as adults to say reclass, but 719 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 3: you're talking to kids that have friends that you know, 720 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:21,240 Speaker 3: you matriculate together, like the reclass you know I'm facing 721 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 3: that as a parent myself with two kids, yep, and 722 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 3: exactly when to do it, what's what's the best period 723 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:29,760 Speaker 3: of time. 724 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 4: Change. It's tough on kids, right, So, I mean, how 725 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,320 Speaker 4: a thing the unknown is. It's tough for anyone, especially 726 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 4: someone who's you know, fifteen, you know, ten, twelve, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, Right, 727 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 4: It's it's difficult. So but at the end of the day, 728 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 4: I do think it's best for them if they're really 729 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 4: if sports is a passion and something they want to 730 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 4: do in college, it's important, right at any D two, 731 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 4: D three, you know, it doesn't matter. It's not just 732 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,959 Speaker 4: a vision one, right, It's trickled down. So at any level, 733 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:03,240 Speaker 4: if your goal is to play college sports, it helps, 734 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 4: you know, but you know you mostly do it at 735 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 4: private schools and then tuition comes in, so not everyone 736 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 4: can do it, right. There's a lot of factors that 737 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 4: go into it. 738 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 3: It's wild, man, it really is. So the one thing 739 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 3: I want to I want to because we're up against it. 740 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 3: Should major college football be split up into basically two leagues? 741 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 3: And like you saw James Madison not have a chance yep, 742 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 3: And it almost feels like, all right, we got to 743 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 3: cut the nonsense. It just create two leagues. 744 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't want to ever just pigeonhole them say 745 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 4: they never can compete. But it's difficult right when they 746 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 4: just get out there, like I think every they'll catch 747 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 4: lightning in a bottle every you know, ten years or 748 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 4: so where they can't compete, where they have a magical team. 749 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 4: So you don't want to just say they can't ever 750 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 4: do it. But also like you just took two spots. 751 00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 4: You took Notre Dame and you know Texas or you know, yeah, 752 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 4: you know Vanderbilt. Right, you took these teams out that 753 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 4: could have won a national championship because they're that good. 754 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,800 Speaker 3: So that looked like yeah, and the and the problem 755 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,800 Speaker 3: is is you know O line D line, Like I don't. 756 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 2: Know if you can. 757 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 3: That way the trench piece something anyway, Uh, that's gonna 758 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 3: do it for us, Danny d great stuff. My brother 759 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 3: will be back to talk, uh the whole thing of 760 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 3: all the playoffs coming up next week. 761 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 4: YEP, can't wait.