WEBVTT - Fentanyl: An Urgent Warning For All

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, fam I'm Jada Pinkett Smith and this is the

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<v Speaker 1>on Apple Podcasts. On September six, five time Emmy nominated

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<v Speaker 1>actor Michael Kay Williams was founded Michael's nephews, telling a

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<v Speaker 1>story for the first time fentanyl and urgent warning. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>positive that he would not have knowingly taken fentyel. Fentanyl

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<v Speaker 1>is everywhere middle schools, concert parties. We went back to

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<v Speaker 1>my voice, the four of us, and we were doing

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<v Speaker 1>some coke there. Who was my friend? See this is

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<v Speaker 1>the part that's hard to talk about for me. Three

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<v Speaker 1>of your friends died. What is fentanyl? A hospital grade

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<v Speaker 1>painkiller now turned into a deadly poison laced into drugs

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<v Speaker 1>like marijuana, cocaine, xanax, and perkison. It's like playing Russian roulette.

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<v Speaker 1>It's cheap to make an incrediblely addictive It's invisible, odorless,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can't taste it. It took one pell and

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<v Speaker 1>it took her off the face of planet forever. It

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<v Speaker 1>was grains of sand worth of fentanyl. Fentnyl is now

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<v Speaker 1>the number one killer of adults stages eighteen to forty five.

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<v Speaker 1>The scariest part people have no idea they're taking it.

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<v Speaker 1>The life saving Red Table every family must watch. I

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<v Speaker 1>would be dead, There's no question in my mind about that.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to get focus. We are doing fentanyl. This

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be a good show. Yeah, I need you

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<v Speaker 1>and your siblings to pay attention. Mom. Let me ask

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<v Speaker 1>you a question while you were using If you knew

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<v Speaker 1>this was on the street at the time and people

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<v Speaker 1>were dying, do you think that would have helped you stop? No?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely not really. I'm so glad that it wasn't because

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<v Speaker 1>I've o d before. I would definitely be dead that.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no question in my mind about that. Right On

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<v Speaker 1>September six, five time Emmy nominated actor and producer Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Kay Williams was found dead from fent nol. Michael rose

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<v Speaker 1>to fame playing Omar Little, one of the most memorable

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<v Speaker 1>characters from HBO's iconic series The Wire. I ave never

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<v Speaker 1>put mink on on Nobody who wasn't in the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Critics called this performance a groundbreaking portrayal of black masculinity

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<v Speaker 1>on television. By age nineteen, Michael's battling a raging drug

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<v Speaker 1>and alcohol addiction. On his twenty fifth birthday, he was

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<v Speaker 1>brutally attacked with a razor blade, resulting in the scar

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<v Speaker 1>many say defined his career. Michael spent years in and

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<v Speaker 1>out of rehab. There was some turbulence in my young

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<v Speaker 1>adult life. I'm recovering addict. Yeah, I mean drugs was

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<v Speaker 1>on my way of coping with the pain. Last September

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<v Speaker 1>he relapsed and ingested heroine he did not know was

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<v Speaker 1>laced with a deadly amount of ventnyl. Just weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 1>for men were arrested and charged in Michael's death. Michael's nephew, Dominic,

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<v Speaker 1>was the one who discovered his body. He's telling his

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<v Speaker 1>story for the first time. We're really glad to have

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<v Speaker 1>you here. Thank you. I think a lot of what happened,

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<v Speaker 1>what I saw in September six, I'm still processing. Michael

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<v Speaker 1>was an amazing human being. What was going on the

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<v Speaker 1>day that you found your uncle? I was shopping what

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<v Speaker 1>my wife. Mike had some work to do the next

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<v Speaker 1>day and had reached out to him the night before,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was concerned that I had not heard from him.

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<v Speaker 1>We made the decision. You go to his house. And

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<v Speaker 1>I went upstairs, opened up his door and it was quiet.

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<v Speaker 1>My always played music. That wasn't the case. I stuck

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<v Speaker 1>my head and I said, uncle, Mike, are you in here?

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<v Speaker 1>And I observed him deceased. Immediately called nine on one.

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<v Speaker 1>They said, listen, you know, do you want to start

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<v Speaker 1>some compressions? And I said, I'm telling you, he's deceased.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gone, he's cold. I spoke to Michael's publician. She said, Dominic,

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<v Speaker 1>you know this is going to be on the news

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<v Speaker 1>in like another hour, I'm telling you. And I looked

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<v Speaker 1>out as window and I saw all the reporters, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I thought about, you know, the responsibility and

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<v Speaker 1>my responsibility, my accountability to get the word out about

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<v Speaker 1>how this doesn't have to be you or your loved one.

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<v Speaker 1>Had he shown any signs before then, whoever relapsed, Mike

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<v Speaker 1>was doing well, he was working on a book. It

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<v Speaker 1>did not appear to me that Mike was sliding back

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<v Speaker 1>into addiction. I've been home for year. Is are served

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<v Speaker 1>a long time in prison. Michael and his nephew were

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<v Speaker 1>always close. When nineteen year old Dominic was convicted of murder,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael remained his mentor. Dominic shot and killed a man

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<v Speaker 1>while defending his twin brother, Nolan in a fight. He

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<v Speaker 1>was sentenced to twenty five years in prison. Could you

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<v Speaker 1>or would you have handled the situation differently? I laid

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<v Speaker 1>on at night in that cage and I say to myself,

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<v Speaker 1>what happened? Would you go wrong? Dominick was granted clemency

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<v Speaker 1>based on his leadership and positive impact on the prison system.

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<v Speaker 1>He ended up serving twenty years twenty years seven days,

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<v Speaker 1>and the four and a half years that I had

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<v Speaker 1>been home, Mike didn't appear to be overwhelmed or dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with any major issues. But Michael also worked really hard

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<v Speaker 1>not to have the things that he was going through

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<v Speaker 1>way on other people. And he was an actor, right

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<v Speaker 1>and you can you know, you can fool people, you

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<v Speaker 1>can convince people that you're okay. But what I would

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<v Speaker 1>say is this, I'm positive that he would not have

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<v Speaker 1>knowingly taken fentinng that I know that, like I know

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<v Speaker 1>my first name, why was it important for you to

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<v Speaker 1>come today? Fentinol finding its way into our communities is

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<v Speaker 1>the reason why I know Michael would want me here.

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<v Speaker 1>A huge part of what my life entails now is

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<v Speaker 1>honoring his legacy. You know, we were young black men

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<v Speaker 1>coming up in a really rough neighborhood and East Flatbush,

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<v Speaker 1>and Michael believed we don't sit back and just look

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<v Speaker 1>at things fall apart and just and just become complacent.

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<v Speaker 1>And if we do, we're complicit. We have to work

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<v Speaker 1>hard to make people aware about what's happening so that

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<v Speaker 1>other people don't have to feel the type of pain

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<v Speaker 1>that I felt. Yeah, my understanding is that you're actually

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<v Speaker 1>living with Michael's mother. She's an amazing human being. She's

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<v Speaker 1>ninety four years old, and her grit, her strength, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I see what Michael got it from. She is just amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes this process of grieving just a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more tolerable. Yeah, now, I know Michael had a long,

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<v Speaker 1>long history struggling with substance abuse. From a young age.

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<v Speaker 1>He struggled and h I'll never forget. I was about

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<v Speaker 1>six or seven years old. This is right before his

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<v Speaker 1>first rehab and he came to my house early in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning and it was a little argument that ensued

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<v Speaker 1>because her substance abuseing. You know, family is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a little fed up. Michael looked me, right, my eyes

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<v Speaker 1>and he said, Dominic, get me. Don't you ever ever ever?

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<v Speaker 1>You strugs, and then he put his hands on my face.

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<v Speaker 1>I could feel his breath and he said, do you

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<v Speaker 1>hear me ever? Ever? Ever? And when I was in

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<v Speaker 1>prison and felt like insanity was creeping in on me,

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<v Speaker 1>I would hear that conversation. One of the things I

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<v Speaker 1>try to live by is this mantra that I have

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, setback is a set up for a comeback.

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<v Speaker 1>The history of how people is about coming back. Is

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<v Speaker 1>there anything else you want to share? I want to

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<v Speaker 1>say thank you so much for just letting people know

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<v Speaker 1>that there's no one on this planet that's perfect to

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<v Speaker 1>use these conversations so that other people can figure things out.

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<v Speaker 1>That to me is so important. At the work that

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are doing here not alread table talk, people

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna be listening, They're gonna be watching, They're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be saying to themselves, if this can happen to an

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<v Speaker 1>amazing human being like him, it can happen to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and if we can prevent that, then we're doing the

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<v Speaker 1>right thing. That was nice, sad for my soul. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's beautiful. Thank you. This headline making tragedy is a

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<v Speaker 1>terrifying warning. Last September, comedian Kate quickly met up with

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<v Speaker 1>three friends after performing at a comedy club. Like Kate,

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<v Speaker 1>two of them were stables on the l a comedy scene.

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<v Speaker 1>Enrico Colan, Jelly Fu, Kwan Johnson, and his friend Natalie

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<v Speaker 1>Williamson the foreign Jestic cocaine, but did not know it

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<v Speaker 1>was laced with fentanyl. Kate passed out and was unconscious

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<v Speaker 1>for seventeen hours. She woke up disoriented, unable to move

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<v Speaker 1>her legs, and made a grisly discovery her friends Food, Rico,

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<v Speaker 1>and Natalie were dead. Okate is here to share her

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<v Speaker 1>story for the first time. Thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>coming on. Thank you guys so much. So what do

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<v Speaker 1>you remember about that night? Oh man, that night was

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<v Speaker 1>so crazy. First of all, I'm so horrified people died,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was nervous to come here because you feel

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<v Speaker 1>shame about something like this, you know, yeah, sure, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so great won't have a chance to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>The hardest part for me is okay, Well, Food was

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<v Speaker 1>my friend Rico I knew, and Natalie had just met.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I knew more about now. She was so nice.

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<v Speaker 1>I just met her that night. She was hanging with food.

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<v Speaker 1>Food was the best. She's so real, So I love

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<v Speaker 1>the best. Froom love that name. He was awesome. This

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<v Speaker 1>is my friend f Quan. I said, we've met forty

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<v Speaker 1>five times. He says we've met approximately one thousand times.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's more like that. That's why I loved

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<v Speaker 1>him so much. So I did a show. I saw

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<v Speaker 1>Food there. I saw Rico with the club too. We

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<v Speaker 1>went back to my place, the four of us, and

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<v Speaker 1>we were doing some coke there. I mean after a

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<v Speaker 1>comedy show. Honestly, like occasionally that's like I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a normal night, right, It's not like it was a

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<v Speaker 1>crazy night. I always like, I like to do it

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<v Speaker 1>for fun, but I was always a baby about it, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm the one that does like the quarter of

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<v Speaker 1>what everyone does, which is where I lived. I did

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<v Speaker 1>like teeny bit of a line and then um, I

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<v Speaker 1>went to the bathroom and what's wild is on the

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<v Speaker 1>way out of the bathroom, I couldn't even butt my pants.

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<v Speaker 1>I was already that disoriented, right, and I said, something's

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<v Speaker 1>not right about this. I don't feel well. I knew

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<v Speaker 1>something was wrong right away. I felt nauseous. I sat

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<v Speaker 1>down and that's the last thing I remember, and I

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<v Speaker 1>passed out in this chair and Rico was sitting across

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<v Speaker 1>from me in the room, so I heard me to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that it's okay, but anyway, and I passed

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<v Speaker 1>out on a chair like sideways. And when I passed out,

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<v Speaker 1>my legs stayed in this chair. My head hit the floor.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, that was like six am, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>like the morning, morning, and I woke up and it

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<v Speaker 1>was dark, and it was like a loving at night

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<v Speaker 1>or something. Yeah, and the first thing I thought, I

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<v Speaker 1>swear to God, is oh my God, why is it dark?

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<v Speaker 1>My doors are open? All I saw is Rico. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just so confused. I come through my legs,

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<v Speaker 1>but I thought like they were asleep. I went to stand,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's when I really realized, and I started to

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<v Speaker 1>get scared. I started saying, hey, Rico, Rico, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>he fell asleep. He even still had like the guitar,

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<v Speaker 1>he was holding guitars in his hands. It never crossed

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<v Speaker 1>my mind he was dead because he didn't look dead.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't see food and Natalie because my head was

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<v Speaker 1>on the floor and they were up on a couch

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<v Speaker 1>around the corner, and so I called my uncle. I

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<v Speaker 1>still thought Rico was okay until I threw a shoe

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<v Speaker 1>at the door next day and it didn't wake up.

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<v Speaker 1>I started to panic, and then like two minutes later,

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<v Speaker 1>my uncle walked in and immediately walked over and he

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<v Speaker 1>touched him and he was cold, and he called and

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<v Speaker 1>I won one. Right. The rest was I mean, see,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the part that's hard to talk about for me.

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<v Speaker 1>It was horrifically. Three of your friends died. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>was hard when the paramedics came and they were like,

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<v Speaker 1>are you into hanging out with dead people? Is that

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<v Speaker 1>your thing? You like partying with corpses? That's what you

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<v Speaker 1>and your friends do. You like dead bodies. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to sound like what was me And the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the night was brutal on me, But that's

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<v Speaker 1>like my own fault, you know what I mean. I

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<v Speaker 1>had total kidney failure, three ruptured disks in my bag,

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<v Speaker 1>three ruptured discs because you and also they're not very

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<v Speaker 1>nice to at the hospital when they think you're a junkie.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not kind. You almost feel like the only people

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<v Speaker 1>that understand other people have died and then they're gone.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt guilty like I didn't do more, but then

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<v Speaker 1>I know I couldn't. I've just been having a hard

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<v Speaker 1>time with like not feeling I have to defend myself totally.

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<v Speaker 1>When did you learn from this experience? Just everything I

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<v Speaker 1>thought matter, doesn't you know? Because during this business, when

0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:33.000
<v Speaker 1>things get real tough, there's not many people that stand

0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:36.640
<v Speaker 1>up for you, and those people are all you need.

0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:39.520
<v Speaker 1>And it's like money and all the things you just

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<v Speaker 1>think make you happy, but and and like, it really

0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:45.320
<v Speaker 1>makes no difference because in a minute, it's gone. It's gone,

0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:49.200
<v Speaker 1>Like that night we're laughing. In thirty seconds later, it's over,

0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:52.560
<v Speaker 1>and it just changes you. And for me, like drugs

0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:54.560
<v Speaker 1>was never an issue as much. For me, it was

0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:57.400
<v Speaker 1>always a party thing. So my whole career people hated

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<v Speaker 1>on me, but the trolls and all the haters it

0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:02.680
<v Speaker 1>never got to me. But it did with this. As

0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:06.920
<v Speaker 1>tributes and high profile condolence is poured in vicious finger

0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:10.920
<v Speaker 1>pointing began on the comedy circuit and in social media comments,

0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:15.720
<v Speaker 1>Kate became a pariah. She says she has been repeatedly

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<v Speaker 1>blamed for the deaths of food, Rico and Natalie. Some

0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:22.720
<v Speaker 1>have gone as far as accusing Kate of killing three people.

0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:26.920
<v Speaker 1>It's different to be called a murderer and stuff. People

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<v Speaker 1>would say to me like that's my friend. It was

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<v Speaker 1>very not about image and all this Hollywood stuff. It

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<v Speaker 1>was just like real, I feel like he's with me sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel him around my house. I swear to God,

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<v Speaker 1>like when I'm having a hard time, I feel that sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's been helpful. Yeah, I have felt so isolated

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<v Speaker 1>at times in this and so like no one can understand.

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<v Speaker 1>So what has been a coping mechanism? My therapist giving

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<v Speaker 1>this tip, Sit down and write a note to yourself

0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:02.000
<v Speaker 1>from your soul, like your soul doesn't judge you, like

0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:03.800
<v Speaker 1>your soul wants to be proud of you, and then

0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:06.840
<v Speaker 1>right back and forth. And I never spent time alone

0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:10.440
<v Speaker 1>with my thoughts like that because it terrifies me. So

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<v Speaker 1>like when I am having trouble now or I beat

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<v Speaker 1>myself up, I'll do that. I'll sit and do that.

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<v Speaker 1>It really helps totally give me an example of how

0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:23.440
<v Speaker 1>you beat yourself up. I know I've been trying to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out how to deal with the PTSD stuff. I

0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:32.040
<v Speaker 1>definitely have had trouble controlling, some rage, and some parts

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<v Speaker 1>of this where I've sent some texts that I wish

0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I hadn't or mashed out at people in a way

0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:40.280
<v Speaker 1>that's not something I would have ever done. Before I

0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:42.760
<v Speaker 1>moved into a new apartment and for like three weeks

0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:45.880
<v Speaker 1>just stay at home, barely showered, didn't leave my house.

0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:50.160
<v Speaker 1>I just I just pride so hard. I don't know

0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:54.000
<v Speaker 1>anyone else who lived through this. To be honest, it's terrifying.

0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:58.440
<v Speaker 1>But I'm like, maybe I live to talk about this

0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:02.400
<v Speaker 1>because people messed up. Man, It's okay to start from

0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:05.119
<v Speaker 1>the bottom and you know, kind of dig out. I

0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:07.440
<v Speaker 1>don't know, to be careful with your drugs. I mean,

0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:11.040
<v Speaker 1>I still don't know where the guy got it, just

0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:15.600
<v Speaker 1>like that, from wanting to have a good time to

0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:20.040
<v Speaker 1>your life turning into a nightmare for a minute. The

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<v Speaker 1>thing about this that I really think is important. I

0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:26.080
<v Speaker 1>think there's this misconception they think people are trying to

0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:30.960
<v Speaker 1>buy a fentyl or and it's not that it's poison.

0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:35.159
<v Speaker 1>Du So you want people to know that you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know when you buyin exactly. So it's not like you

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<v Speaker 1>were like, hey, let's go out and get some. I mean,

0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:48.280
<v Speaker 1>it's like, hey, this is we've done lines of cocaine before,

0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:51.080
<v Speaker 1>and it's not like you overdid it and you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know that it was even and you don't know what's

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<v Speaker 1>in there. Yeah, is there anything else that you might

0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:58.640
<v Speaker 1>want to say? I have gotten reached out to buy

0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:00.879
<v Speaker 1>tons of people who have lost loved ones from the

0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:03.560
<v Speaker 1>tons kids. But like for the people that have reached that,

0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:08.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm so it helps. Every positive message helps. I really

0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:12.640
<v Speaker 1>really mean that, and I'm grateful, really grateful. I haven't

0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:15.800
<v Speaker 1>gotten to speak to like um, the parents of food

0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:19.720
<v Speaker 1>or natal I will be happy to. I think you

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<v Speaker 1>gaining the courage and the strength to share your testimony

0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:30.480
<v Speaker 1>is really powerful important because what you've been through is heavy.

0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Your testimony can literally save a life. Yeah, you know,

0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:37.080
<v Speaker 1>I hope. So I'm still a mess, and you know,

0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:42.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean I'm the definitely don't want to ask it

0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:45.119
<v Speaker 1>sounds like I've got it together by any means. I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's one day at a time. I mean, like

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<v Speaker 1>that night, I wish it didn't happen that way, but

0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:56.040
<v Speaker 1>I can't fix it. All you can do is try

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<v Speaker 1>to move forward and do better. Thank you guys, Olivia

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<v Speaker 1>Green's mother has barely left the house since her daughter's death.

0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:09.400
<v Speaker 1>Just over a year ago, she agreed to fly across

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<v Speaker 1>the country in hopes of saving another child's life. This

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<v Speaker 1>is Olivia Story. Fifteen year old Olivia Green was a

0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:20.960
<v Speaker 1>creative and fun loving teen with an infectious sense of humor.

0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:25.040
<v Speaker 1>She loved to dance, make silly videos, then go to

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<v Speaker 1>camp every summer. She dreamed of being a marine biologist.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello mother's birthday. Olivia had three siblings and was best

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<v Speaker 1>friends with her younger brother, Jet, who was on the

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<v Speaker 1>autism spectrum. Last April, the night before Easter, Olivia told

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<v Speaker 1>her mom she was having a sleepover with a friend

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<v Speaker 1>and ended up meeting an eighteen year old male she

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<v Speaker 1>was chatting with online. He gave her a painkiller that

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<v Speaker 1>was unknowingly laced with fentinel. Soon after, Olivia was dead.

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<v Speaker 1>M hmm, thank you so much for having me. It's

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<v Speaker 1>very hard. I know, this is really it's very fresh.

0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:14.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is last you never get over. Yeah,

0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:20.320
<v Speaker 1>can you tell us what happened? Yeah, it was Easter

0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:25.000
<v Speaker 1>and my cell phone ring and it was four in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning, and it was the hospital and they asked

0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:32.959
<v Speaker 1>to speak to the mother of Olivia Green, and I

0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:37.080
<v Speaker 1>was like, this is her because Olivia, Okay, can you

0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:39.359
<v Speaker 1>just tell me so I'm not going to panic on

0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:42.640
<v Speaker 1>wait and they said you can't talk about that over

0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:46.359
<v Speaker 1>the phone. So I just went in the clothes that

0:20:46.400 --> 0:20:51.240
<v Speaker 1>I was sleeping in and rushed straight there. I told

0:20:51.240 --> 0:20:54.639
<v Speaker 1>the triage on the mother of Olivia Green, and she

0:20:54.840 --> 0:20:57.359
<v Speaker 1>just got about her booth and went straight to the

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<v Speaker 1>back and then she told the security to come stand

0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:03.360
<v Speaker 1>next me. So now I'm really worried, like did Olivia

0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:07.600
<v Speaker 1>do something bad? Then their emergency room doors open and

0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:12.200
<v Speaker 1>like eight ten doctors came out. They pulled me into

0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:17.400
<v Speaker 1>this little room and I was like, um, there's Olivia. Okay.

0:21:19.400 --> 0:21:23.040
<v Speaker 1>They just put their heads down and they shook their

0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:33.560
<v Speaker 1>head and they said, no, We're sorry. We tried lit'sten

0:21:33.760 --> 0:21:41.160
<v Speaker 1>sooner confused what happened to Olivia. They just said fencing overdose.

0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:45.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm like founting all overdose. I never heard the word

0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:49.680
<v Speaker 1>friends and no before my I know the word overdose

0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:53.240
<v Speaker 1>means you abused drugs. Right, We're not talking about the

0:21:53.240 --> 0:21:57.720
<v Speaker 1>same Olivia. My Olivia is a little girl, thank goodness.

0:21:58.160 --> 0:22:00.720
<v Speaker 1>And um they asked me to very find my name

0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:05.520
<v Speaker 1>and her birthday, and they said it that's the right Olivia. Yeah,

0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:10.399
<v Speaker 1>I just started screap, so I was I need to

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<v Speaker 1>say her right now. Yeah, I didn't think it's yeah,

0:22:20.560 --> 0:22:25.000
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't use trucks. So they took me to the

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<v Speaker 1>back and Olivia had a white sheet over and all

0:22:30.960 --> 0:22:33.480
<v Speaker 1>I saw was her life. The same was dangling off

0:22:33.520 --> 0:22:38.000
<v Speaker 1>the bed, right, So I didn't want to go near

0:22:38.080 --> 0:22:41.120
<v Speaker 1>the body because I didn't want it to really beat

0:22:41.200 --> 0:22:44.199
<v Speaker 1>my out of you. And I was waiting for family

0:22:44.240 --> 0:22:48.760
<v Speaker 1>to shop so I can be with me. Crime scene

0:22:48.760 --> 0:22:52.840
<v Speaker 1>walks in and I said, sorry for you loss, we

0:22:52.960 --> 0:22:57.080
<v Speaker 1>need to take pictures like crime scene. So I just

0:22:57.119 --> 0:23:06.480
<v Speaker 1>seen him take the white sheet offer her and it

0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:16.600
<v Speaker 1>was cheese. It was really my Olivia was so confused.

0:23:17.520 --> 0:23:22.160
<v Speaker 1>She was completely naked and nobody't know anything. Where did

0:23:22.200 --> 0:23:24.879
<v Speaker 1>you think she went that night? But she supposed to

0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:27.159
<v Speaker 1>stay at her best friend's house and she lied to

0:23:27.200 --> 0:23:31.199
<v Speaker 1>me and went somewhere else. Right, She went to go

0:23:31.359 --> 0:23:36.240
<v Speaker 1>see a guy right who was an adult because like

0:23:36.359 --> 0:23:39.399
<v Speaker 1>nine tune, she was a little girl. And this is

0:23:39.480 --> 0:23:42.399
<v Speaker 1>someone that she met online. I think they met on

0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:45.600
<v Speaker 1>snapcher having an idea, and detective said she barely know,

0:23:46.560 --> 0:23:50.399
<v Speaker 1>like they just met. So the detective was able to

0:23:50.600 --> 0:23:52.879
<v Speaker 1>talk to the guy that she went to see because

0:23:52.880 --> 0:23:57.080
<v Speaker 1>he can call the police, right, but he didn't call

0:23:57.160 --> 0:24:01.080
<v Speaker 1>for help right away. Do they know what drug he gave?

0:24:01.160 --> 0:24:04.560
<v Speaker 1>It was a percoset. He was a percose of fendonose.

0:24:04.680 --> 0:24:08.280
<v Speaker 1>What killed her? It never made the media. A little

0:24:08.320 --> 0:24:11.640
<v Speaker 1>girl dropped dead and nobody thinks this is important. When

0:24:11.680 --> 0:24:14.360
<v Speaker 1>she died, it's it's almost like they looked at her

0:24:14.680 --> 0:24:17.119
<v Speaker 1>like she was a drunk at it, like her life

0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:21.359
<v Speaker 1>meant nothing. And I don't use the word overtox. Overdose

0:24:21.440 --> 0:24:26.920
<v Speaker 1>implies that you knowingly and carelessly took too much of something. Right,

0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:30.560
<v Speaker 1>Olivia took one pill and it took her off the

0:24:30.600 --> 0:24:34.439
<v Speaker 1>face of the planet forever. She didn't overdose. It was

0:24:34.520 --> 0:24:38.600
<v Speaker 1>grains of sand worth of fentonyl that killed. She was

0:24:38.680 --> 0:24:44.760
<v Speaker 1>poisoned to death. Right, So it looks like Olivia's father, Bruce,

0:24:45.720 --> 0:24:49.639
<v Speaker 1>is going to join us by zoom. Hello Bruce, thank you,

0:24:49.760 --> 0:24:51.159
<v Speaker 1>thank you for having me. What is it that you

0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:54.680
<v Speaker 1>would like us to know about Olivia? I beg God,

0:24:55.000 --> 0:24:59.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean I beg God for a little girl. He

0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:07.720
<v Speaker 1>bless me with Olivia and then fifteen years later, she's gone, Yeah.

0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:09.960
<v Speaker 1>It's not one of the roughest things a parent will

0:25:10.000 --> 0:25:12.920
<v Speaker 1>ever deal with. It is the roughest thing a parent

0:25:12.960 --> 0:25:17.240
<v Speaker 1>will ever deal with. Absolutely, the initial drug dealer that

0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:20.159
<v Speaker 1>puts the fetanol inside of all of the percocets and

0:25:20.200 --> 0:25:23.480
<v Speaker 1>everything else, he's a murderer. I mean, he knows the

0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:26.639
<v Speaker 1>fetanol is killing everybody, and you're sticking it in weed,

0:25:27.080 --> 0:25:29.199
<v Speaker 1>is stinking in everything that you can possibly find so

0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:32.840
<v Speaker 1>you can make an extra dollar. Exactly what happened to

0:25:32.920 --> 0:25:37.800
<v Speaker 1>the man who gave Olivia the drug? So he made

0:25:37.800 --> 0:25:42.399
<v Speaker 1>the ninth one one call. And there's a law called

0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:47.320
<v Speaker 1>good Samarratan, So he was the hitro in New York City.

0:25:47.680 --> 0:25:50.200
<v Speaker 1>As long as you call the police, you don't get charged.

0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:55.880
<v Speaker 1>Inside this law, there's no stipulation of times. So if

0:25:55.920 --> 0:25:58.439
<v Speaker 1>he sits back and he gives Olivia a pill at

0:25:58.440 --> 0:26:00.879
<v Speaker 1>twelve o'clock and doesn't decide to call the ambulance until

0:26:00.880 --> 0:26:05.480
<v Speaker 1>four o'clock in the morning, he's still safe. Wow, and

0:26:05.600 --> 0:26:10.119
<v Speaker 1>she was a minor, it was an adult, she was naked.

0:26:11.560 --> 0:26:17.800
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter. So Olivia will never get true. I'm

0:26:17.840 --> 0:26:22.359
<v Speaker 1>so sorry that we have to live with the fact

0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:26.000
<v Speaker 1>that this guy still walks around in the streets. Yeah,

0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:29.720
<v Speaker 1>but heard a voicemail from the guy because I went

0:26:29.840 --> 0:26:33.520
<v Speaker 1>on social media asking people out help me find out

0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:37.040
<v Speaker 1>who did this, and somebody found out who he was

0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:41.879
<v Speaker 1>and they told him to turn himself in, and he

0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:45.560
<v Speaker 1>sent a voice clip saying what happened, And he said

0:26:45.560 --> 0:26:49.359
<v Speaker 1>he gave Olivia percocet. She wasn't high enough, so I

0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:54.280
<v Speaker 1>gave her more. This is obviously an illegal percocet because

0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:58.720
<v Speaker 1>percocet does not have fanonough from this purposely being laced

0:26:58.720 --> 0:27:01.520
<v Speaker 1>to get you, I understanding is that you can just

0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:06.080
<v Speaker 1>get this stuff off the internet now and put put

0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:09.600
<v Speaker 1>in the emoji and a list of drug deals will

0:27:09.640 --> 0:27:13.480
<v Speaker 1>pop up. What you order a percoset off Snapchat and

0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:16.960
<v Speaker 1>they deliberate right to your door the same day. So

0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:21.520
<v Speaker 1>parents are finding their children dead at the computer. You

0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:25.160
<v Speaker 1>know it's twelve thirteen, fourteen year old children t right

0:27:25.600 --> 0:27:30.520
<v Speaker 1>because they don't know a naive. Well. Dr Melissa Clark

0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:34.879
<v Speaker 1>is a Harvard educated emergency room physician who has some

0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:40.320
<v Speaker 1>answers for us. Hello, thank you for joining us. Hello everyone. Well,

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:44.520
<v Speaker 1>let's start with what is fentinelle? So it has multiple

0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:50.040
<v Speaker 1>uses within medicine. It's for any severe pain associated with surgery,

0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:55.200
<v Speaker 1>pain from cancer therapy. It belongs to that family of opioids.

0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:58.680
<v Speaker 1>So you mentioned percoset also in that family as heroin

0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:03.480
<v Speaker 1>is morphine, but fifty times more potent than heroin and

0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:06.600
<v Speaker 1>a hundred times more potent than morphine. We have some

0:28:06.720 --> 0:28:12.800
<v Speaker 1>photos of fentanyl. WHOA, yeah, so that amount can kill you. Yes,

0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:17.560
<v Speaker 1>that can. And the problem is fentanyl is odorless, it

0:28:17.920 --> 0:28:21.360
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have a taste. There's no way that somebody could

0:28:21.400 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 1>actually know if it's in a counterfeit percocet pill. When

0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:30.000
<v Speaker 1>people make these counterfeit OXYCODEA on and adderall pills, it

0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:31.960
<v Speaker 1>might be in one pill but not be in the

0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:35.320
<v Speaker 1>other pill. So there's absolutely no way to know. It's

0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:39.360
<v Speaker 1>really almost like playing Russian roulette. So recreational users should

0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:42.400
<v Speaker 1>have their antenna's up. I know they're they're talking about

0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:45.120
<v Speaker 1>these strips that you can get that that will test

0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:47.840
<v Speaker 1>the drugs, but it's such a small amount. Is it

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:50.800
<v Speaker 1>really going to pick up on that. The fentanyl test

0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:55.160
<v Speaker 1>strips that you're talking about are effective. Originally created to

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<v Speaker 1>detect fentanyl in urine, fentanyl test strips are now used

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<v Speaker 1>to check rugs for this deadly substance. The strips are

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<v Speaker 1>easy to use and available in about half the country. However,

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<v Speaker 1>according to the d e A, because no test is accurate,

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<v Speaker 1>the only way to be sure drug does not contain

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<v Speaker 1>fentanyl is to buy it from a pharmacy with a prescription.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of the things that I'd say, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>using drugs recreationally or if you have addiction, you should

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<v Speaker 1>use these strips because fentanyl is everywhere and it's unpredictable.

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<v Speaker 1>How fast acting is the fentanyl? How quickly will it

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<v Speaker 1>kill you? When you ingest any opioid and needs. Initially

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<v Speaker 1>you get that sense of euphoria, but then your drive

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<v Speaker 1>to breathe is going to go down or stop breathing,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's actually what kills you. Fentanyl can do that

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<v Speaker 1>within a matter of ten minutes or so. So the

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<v Speaker 1>body gets so relaxed that you stop exactly and so

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<v Speaker 1>basically just go to sleep. And so that would be

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing that happened to Olivia. Yes, unfortunately, so right.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, the old school way of parenting is like

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<v Speaker 1>kind of keep information away from your children, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think in this day and age, we have to be

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<v Speaker 1>the ones educating our children around these kinds of topics.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can't be mad at me. Will know when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking to you, I don't get mad at you.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the thing. I think the awareness is the

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<v Speaker 1>most important part. A lot of my friends have experimented

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it's what you do when you're young, but

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<v Speaker 1>this is you just don't want to play that game.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was growing up, I lied to my parents

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<v Speaker 1>about everything. I lied to you, and it really knew

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<v Speaker 1>where I was. I told her I was all That's

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<v Speaker 1>why I relate. I told my mother I was all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of places. I can definitely relate to what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think your child is one place and she's

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<v Speaker 1>someplace totally different? Frand I did that all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>But sometimes you can have a great relationship with your parents,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not really about that. It's just about as

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<v Speaker 1>a young person feeling like there's certain things that you

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<v Speaker 1>want to do that you don't think was acceptable for

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<v Speaker 1>your parents. Totally okay. So I just wanted to ask

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<v Speaker 1>you and Bruce both how has olivia story saved lives.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know popping pills was a thing for kids.

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<v Speaker 1>I shared a real graphic post one day to reach

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<v Speaker 1>as many kids as I can before it's too late

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<v Speaker 1>for them. And a lot of kids were messaging me,

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<v Speaker 1>like thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen year old children telling me

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<v Speaker 1>that they already addicted to pills and that was a

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<v Speaker 1>wake up call for them. They're not going to mess

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<v Speaker 1>with pills no more because they didn't want to put

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<v Speaker 1>their mother through what they saw my post. I even

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<v Speaker 1>had Snoop Dogg's daughter. She shared olivia story and said

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<v Speaker 1>that was the wake up call for wow. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the videos in the hospital the night

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<v Speaker 1>that Olivia past. I love you, Olivia, I love you

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<v Speaker 1>so much, bigger girl. Hello, please come to me my dream. Please,

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<v Speaker 1>please let me know your stiff here. Please. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>only way I'm gonna say yeah, yeah, and in your heart. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I still kids, except that she's gone from a pill.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish it was from natural causes, even a car accident.

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<v Speaker 1>What if I'm easier from two deal with. My father

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<v Speaker 1>is a preacher and I grew up in the church,

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<v Speaker 1>and after this, I just lost my faith. To have

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<v Speaker 1>it taken from you over a pill. I'm trying my

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<v Speaker 1>best to get back into the faith. But how do

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<v Speaker 1>you I'm lost, lost, I totally understand, I really do. No.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. This was a real education for

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<v Speaker 1>me today. Thank you, Thank you Bruce for joining us. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, Bruce, and thank you, thank you. You're welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>In the past year, almost seventy thousand Americans of every

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<v Speaker 1>age and background have died from fentanyl. We honor their

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<v Speaker 1>lives by speaking their names. Olivia Green, Fukuwan Johnson, Enrico

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<v Speaker 1>Colon Jelly, Natalie Williamson, Michael Kay Williams gone too soon

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<v Speaker 1>because of fentanyl. For some, it was their first time,

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty two year old Cassandra Saldivar. Twenty one year

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<v Speaker 1>old Lexei Alaj, a Minnesota singer and a rapper, was

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<v Speaker 1>on a steady rise to start them. Frankita Davis dreamed

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<v Speaker 1>of being a dental hygienist. Thirteen year old Luca Manuel

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<v Speaker 1>loved blasting Prince in his mom's car. Alexander Neville Alyssa,

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<v Speaker 1>Norman Luke right, Sixteen year old Logan Williams starting the flash.

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<v Speaker 1>His mom said he had an infectious spirit. Angelina Rodgers,

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<v Speaker 1>Shanina Mowitt, Geo Perkins, Hamid ab Aljibar was a community

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<v Speaker 1>leader in Milwaukee. Twenty two year old Charlie Turning was

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<v Speaker 1>in love and planning his future. Jessica Philson left behind

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<v Speaker 1>her three year old daughter, a Laura o were loved

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