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Speaker 1: on Apple Podcasts. On September six, five time Emmy nominated
Speaker 1: actor Michael Kay Williams was founded Michael's nephews, telling a
Speaker 1: story for the first time fentanyl and urgent warning. I'm
Speaker 1: positive that he would not have knowingly taken fentyel. Fentanyl
Speaker 1: is everywhere middle schools, concert parties. We went back to
Speaker 1: my voice, the four of us, and we were doing
Speaker 1: some coke there. Who was my friend? See this is
Speaker 1: the part that's hard to talk about for me. Three
Speaker 1: of your friends died. What is fentanyl? A hospital grade
Speaker 1: painkiller now turned into a deadly poison laced into drugs
Speaker 1: like marijuana, cocaine, xanax, and perkison. It's like playing Russian roulette.
Speaker 1: It's cheap to make an incrediblely addictive It's invisible, odorless,
Speaker 1: and you can't taste it. It took one pell and
Speaker 1: it took her off the face of planet forever. It
Speaker 1: was grains of sand worth of fentanyl. Fentnyl is now
Speaker 1: the number one killer of adults stages eighteen to forty five.
Speaker 1: The scariest part people have no idea they're taking it.
Speaker 1: The life saving Red Table every family must watch. I
Speaker 1: would be dead, There's no question in my mind about that.
Speaker 1: We have to get focus. We are doing fentanyl. This
Speaker 1: is gonna be a good show. Yeah, I need you
Speaker 1: and your siblings to pay attention. Mom. Let me ask
Speaker 1: you a question while you were using If you knew
Speaker 1: this was on the street at the time and people
Speaker 1: were dying, do you think that would have helped you stop? No?
Speaker 1: Absolutely not really. I'm so glad that it wasn't because
Speaker 1: I've o d before. I would definitely be dead that.
Speaker 1: There's no question in my mind about that. Right On
Speaker 1: September six, five time Emmy nominated actor and producer Michael
Speaker 1: Kay Williams was found dead from fent nol. Michael rose
Speaker 1: to fame playing Omar Little, one of the most memorable
Speaker 1: characters from HBO's iconic series The Wire. I ave never
Speaker 1: put mink on on Nobody who wasn't in the game.
Speaker 1: Critics called this performance a groundbreaking portrayal of black masculinity
Speaker 1: on television. By age nineteen, Michael's battling a raging drug
Speaker 1: and alcohol addiction. On his twenty fifth birthday, he was
Speaker 1: brutally attacked with a razor blade, resulting in the scar
Speaker 1: many say defined his career. Michael spent years in and
Speaker 1: out of rehab. There was some turbulence in my young
Speaker 1: adult life. I'm recovering addict. Yeah, I mean drugs was
Speaker 1: on my way of coping with the pain. Last September
Speaker 1: he relapsed and ingested heroine he did not know was
Speaker 1: laced with a deadly amount of ventnyl. Just weeks ago,
Speaker 1: for men were arrested and charged in Michael's death. Michael's nephew, Dominic,
Speaker 1: was the one who discovered his body. He's telling his
Speaker 1: story for the first time. We're really glad to have
Speaker 1: you here. Thank you. I think a lot of what happened,
Speaker 1: what I saw in September six, I'm still processing. Michael
Speaker 1: was an amazing human being. What was going on the
Speaker 1: day that you found your uncle? I was shopping what
Speaker 1: my wife. Mike had some work to do the next
Speaker 1: day and had reached out to him the night before,
Speaker 1: and I was concerned that I had not heard from him.
Speaker 1: We made the decision. You go to his house. And
Speaker 1: I went upstairs, opened up his door and it was quiet.
Speaker 1: My always played music. That wasn't the case. I stuck
Speaker 1: my head and I said, uncle, Mike, are you in here?
Speaker 1: And I observed him deceased. Immediately called nine on one.
Speaker 1: They said, listen, you know, do you want to start
Speaker 1: some compressions? And I said, I'm telling you, he's deceased.
Speaker 1: He's gone, he's cold. I spoke to Michael's publician. She said, Dominic,
Speaker 1: you know this is going to be on the news
Speaker 1: in like another hour, I'm telling you. And I looked
Speaker 1: out as window and I saw all the reporters, and
Speaker 1: you know, I thought about, you know, the responsibility and
Speaker 1: my responsibility, my accountability to get the word out about
Speaker 1: how this doesn't have to be you or your loved one.
Speaker 1: Had he shown any signs before then, whoever relapsed, Mike
Speaker 1: was doing well, he was working on a book. It
Speaker 1: did not appear to me that Mike was sliding back
Speaker 1: into addiction. I've been home for year. Is are served
Speaker 1: a long time in prison. Michael and his nephew were
Speaker 1: always close. When nineteen year old Dominic was convicted of murder,
Speaker 1: Michael remained his mentor. Dominic shot and killed a man
Speaker 1: while defending his twin brother, Nolan in a fight. He
Speaker 1: was sentenced to twenty five years in prison. Could you
Speaker 1: or would you have handled the situation differently? I laid
Speaker 1: on at night in that cage and I say to myself,
Speaker 1: what happened? Would you go wrong? Dominick was granted clemency
Speaker 1: based on his leadership and positive impact on the prison system.
Speaker 1: He ended up serving twenty years twenty years seven days,
Speaker 1: and the four and a half years that I had
Speaker 1: been home, Mike didn't appear to be overwhelmed or dealing
Speaker 1: with any major issues. But Michael also worked really hard
Speaker 1: not to have the things that he was going through
Speaker 1: way on other people. And he was an actor, right
Speaker 1: and you can you know, you can fool people, you
Speaker 1: can convince people that you're okay. But what I would
Speaker 1: say is this, I'm positive that he would not have
Speaker 1: knowingly taken fentinng that I know that, like I know
Speaker 1: my first name, why was it important for you to
Speaker 1: come today? Fentinol finding its way into our communities is
Speaker 1: the reason why I know Michael would want me here.
Speaker 1: A huge part of what my life entails now is
Speaker 1: honoring his legacy. You know, we were young black men
Speaker 1: coming up in a really rough neighborhood and East Flatbush,
Speaker 1: and Michael believed we don't sit back and just look
Speaker 1: at things fall apart and just and just become complacent.
Speaker 1: And if we do, we're complicit. We have to work
Speaker 1: hard to make people aware about what's happening so that
Speaker 1: other people don't have to feel the type of pain
Speaker 1: that I felt. Yeah, my understanding is that you're actually
Speaker 1: living with Michael's mother. She's an amazing human being. She's
Speaker 1: ninety four years old, and her grit, her strength, you know,
Speaker 1: I see what Michael got it from. She is just amazing.
Speaker 1: It makes this process of grieving just a little bit
Speaker 1: more tolerable. Yeah, now, I know Michael had a long,
Speaker 1: long history struggling with substance abuse. From a young age.
Speaker 1: He struggled and h I'll never forget. I was about
Speaker 1: six or seven years old. This is right before his
Speaker 1: first rehab and he came to my house early in
Speaker 1: the morning and it was a little argument that ensued
Speaker 1: because her substance abuseing. You know, family is you know,
Speaker 1: a little fed up. Michael looked me, right, my eyes
Speaker 1: and he said, Dominic, get me. Don't you ever ever ever?
Speaker 1: You strugs, and then he put his hands on my face.
Speaker 1: I could feel his breath and he said, do you
Speaker 1: hear me ever? Ever? Ever? And when I was in
Speaker 1: prison and felt like insanity was creeping in on me,
Speaker 1: I would hear that conversation. One of the things I
Speaker 1: try to live by is this mantra that I have
Speaker 1: that you know, setback is a set up for a comeback.
Speaker 1: The history of how people is about coming back. Is
Speaker 1: there anything else you want to share? I want to
Speaker 1: say thank you so much for just letting people know
Speaker 1: that there's no one on this planet that's perfect to
Speaker 1: use these conversations so that other people can figure things out.
Speaker 1: That to me is so important. At the work that
Speaker 1: you guys are doing here not alread table talk, people
Speaker 1: are gonna be listening, They're gonna be watching, They're gonna
Speaker 1: be saying to themselves, if this can happen to an
Speaker 1: amazing human being like him, it can happen to me,
Speaker 1: and if we can prevent that, then we're doing the
Speaker 1: right thing. That was nice, sad for my soul. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's beautiful. Thank you. This headline making tragedy is a
Speaker 1: terrifying warning. Last September, comedian Kate quickly met up with
Speaker 1: three friends after performing at a comedy club. Like Kate,
Speaker 1: two of them were stables on the l a comedy scene.
Speaker 1: Enrico Colan, Jelly Fu, Kwan Johnson, and his friend Natalie
Speaker 1: Williamson the foreign Jestic cocaine, but did not know it
Speaker 1: was laced with fentanyl. Kate passed out and was unconscious
Speaker 1: for seventeen hours. She woke up disoriented, unable to move
Speaker 1: her legs, and made a grisly discovery her friends Food, Rico,
Speaker 1: and Natalie were dead. Okate is here to share her
Speaker 1: story for the first time. Thank you so much for
Speaker 1: coming on. Thank you guys so much. So what do
Speaker 1: you remember about that night? Oh man, that night was
Speaker 1: so crazy. First of all, I'm so horrified people died,
Speaker 1: and I was nervous to come here because you feel
Speaker 1: shame about something like this, you know, yeah, sure, but
Speaker 1: I'm so great won't have a chance to talk about it.
Speaker 1: The hardest part for me is okay, Well, Food was
Speaker 1: my friend Rico I knew, and Natalie had just met.
Speaker 1: I wish I knew more about now. She was so nice.
Speaker 1: I just met her that night. She was hanging with food.
Speaker 1: Food was the best. She's so real, So I love
Speaker 1: the best. Froom love that name. He was awesome. This
Speaker 1: is my friend f Quan. I said, we've met forty
Speaker 1: five times. He says we've met approximately one thousand times.
Speaker 1: I think it's more like that. That's why I loved
Speaker 1: him so much. So I did a show. I saw
Speaker 1: Food there. I saw Rico with the club too. We
Speaker 1: went back to my place, the four of us, and
Speaker 1: we were doing some coke there. I mean after a
Speaker 1: comedy show. Honestly, like occasionally that's like I kind of
Speaker 1: a normal night, right, It's not like it was a
Speaker 1: crazy night. I always like, I like to do it
Speaker 1: for fun, but I was always a baby about it, honestly,
Speaker 1: like I'm the one that does like the quarter of
Speaker 1: what everyone does, which is where I lived. I did
Speaker 1: like teeny bit of a line and then um, I
Speaker 1: went to the bathroom and what's wild is on the
Speaker 1: way out of the bathroom, I couldn't even butt my pants.
Speaker 1: I was already that disoriented, right, and I said, something's
Speaker 1: not right about this. I don't feel well. I knew
Speaker 1: something was wrong right away. I felt nauseous. I sat
Speaker 1: down and that's the last thing I remember, and I
Speaker 1: passed out in this chair and Rico was sitting across
Speaker 1: from me in the room, so I heard me to
Speaker 1: talk about that it's okay, but anyway, and I passed
Speaker 1: out on a chair like sideways. And when I passed out,
Speaker 1: my legs stayed in this chair. My head hit the floor.
Speaker 1: So anyway, that was like six am, and it was
Speaker 1: like the morning, morning, and I woke up and it
Speaker 1: was dark, and it was like a loving at night
Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, and the first thing I thought, I
Speaker 1: swear to God, is oh my God, why is it dark?
Speaker 1: My doors are open? All I saw is Rico. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was just so confused. I come through my legs,
Speaker 1: but I thought like they were asleep. I went to stand,
Speaker 1: and that's when I really realized, and I started to
Speaker 1: get scared. I started saying, hey, Rico, Rico, I thought
Speaker 1: he fell asleep. He even still had like the guitar,
Speaker 1: he was holding guitars in his hands. It never crossed
Speaker 1: my mind he was dead because he didn't look dead.
Speaker 1: I couldn't see food and Natalie because my head was
Speaker 1: on the floor and they were up on a couch
Speaker 1: around the corner, and so I called my uncle. I
Speaker 1: still thought Rico was okay until I threw a shoe
Speaker 1: at the door next day and it didn't wake up.
Speaker 1: I started to panic, and then like two minutes later,
Speaker 1: my uncle walked in and immediately walked over and he
Speaker 1: touched him and he was cold, and he called and
Speaker 1: I won one. Right. The rest was I mean, see,
Speaker 1: this is the part that's hard to talk about for me.
Speaker 1: It was horrifically. Three of your friends died. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was hard when the paramedics came and they were like,
Speaker 1: are you into hanging out with dead people? Is that
Speaker 1: your thing? You like partying with corpses? That's what you
Speaker 1: and your friends do. You like dead bodies. But I
Speaker 1: don't want to sound like what was me And the
Speaker 1: rest of the night was brutal on me, But that's
Speaker 1: like my own fault, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: had total kidney failure, three ruptured disks in my bag,
Speaker 1: three ruptured discs because you and also they're not very
Speaker 1: nice to at the hospital when they think you're a junkie.
Speaker 1: They're not kind. You almost feel like the only people
Speaker 1: that understand other people have died and then they're gone.
Speaker 1: I felt guilty like I didn't do more, but then
Speaker 1: I know I couldn't. I've just been having a hard
Speaker 1: time with like not feeling I have to defend myself totally.
Speaker 1: When did you learn from this experience? Just everything I
Speaker 1: thought matter, doesn't you know? Because during this business, when
Speaker 1: things get real tough, there's not many people that stand
Speaker 1: up for you, and those people are all you need.
Speaker 1: And it's like money and all the things you just
Speaker 1: think make you happy, but and and like, it really
Speaker 1: makes no difference because in a minute, it's gone. It's gone,
Speaker 1: Like that night we're laughing. In thirty seconds later, it's over,
Speaker 1: and it just changes you. And for me, like drugs
Speaker 1: was never an issue as much. For me, it was
Speaker 1: always a party thing. So my whole career people hated
Speaker 1: on me, but the trolls and all the haters it
Speaker 1: never got to me. But it did with this. As
Speaker 1: tributes and high profile condolence is poured in vicious finger
Speaker 1: pointing began on the comedy circuit and in social media comments,
Speaker 1: Kate became a pariah. She says she has been repeatedly
Speaker 1: blamed for the deaths of food, Rico and Natalie. Some
Speaker 1: have gone as far as accusing Kate of killing three people.
Speaker 1: It's different to be called a murderer and stuff. People
Speaker 1: would say to me like that's my friend. It was
Speaker 1: very not about image and all this Hollywood stuff. It
Speaker 1: was just like real, I feel like he's with me sometimes.
Speaker 1: I feel him around my house. I swear to God,
Speaker 1: like when I'm having a hard time, I feel that sometimes.
Speaker 1: So that's been helpful. Yeah, I have felt so isolated
Speaker 1: at times in this and so like no one can understand.
Speaker 1: So what has been a coping mechanism? My therapist giving
Speaker 1: this tip, Sit down and write a note to yourself
Speaker 1: from your soul, like your soul doesn't judge you, like
Speaker 1: your soul wants to be proud of you, and then
Speaker 1: right back and forth. And I never spent time alone
Speaker 1: with my thoughts like that because it terrifies me. So
Speaker 1: like when I am having trouble now or I beat
Speaker 1: myself up, I'll do that. I'll sit and do that.
Speaker 1: It really helps totally give me an example of how
Speaker 1: you beat yourself up. I know I've been trying to
Speaker 1: figure out how to deal with the PTSD stuff. I
Speaker 1: definitely have had trouble controlling, some rage, and some parts
Speaker 1: of this where I've sent some texts that I wish
Speaker 1: I hadn't or mashed out at people in a way
Speaker 1: that's not something I would have ever done. Before I
Speaker 1: moved into a new apartment and for like three weeks
Speaker 1: just stay at home, barely showered, didn't leave my house.
Speaker 1: I just I just pride so hard. I don't know
Speaker 1: anyone else who lived through this. To be honest, it's terrifying.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, maybe I live to talk about this
Speaker 1: because people messed up. Man, It's okay to start from
Speaker 1: the bottom and you know, kind of dig out. I
Speaker 1: don't know, to be careful with your drugs. I mean,
Speaker 1: I still don't know where the guy got it, just
Speaker 1: like that, from wanting to have a good time to
Speaker 1: your life turning into a nightmare for a minute. The
Speaker 1: thing about this that I really think is important. I
Speaker 1: think there's this misconception they think people are trying to
Speaker 1: buy a fentyl or and it's not that it's poison.
Speaker 1: Du So you want people to know that you don't
Speaker 1: know when you buyin exactly. So it's not like you
Speaker 1: were like, hey, let's go out and get some. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, this is we've done lines of cocaine before,
Speaker 1: and it's not like you overdid it and you didn't
Speaker 1: know that it was even and you don't know what's
Speaker 1: in there. Yeah, is there anything else that you might
Speaker 1: want to say? I have gotten reached out to buy
Speaker 1: tons of people who have lost loved ones from the
Speaker 1: tons kids. But like for the people that have reached that,
Speaker 1: I'm so it helps. Every positive message helps. I really
Speaker 1: really mean that, and I'm grateful, really grateful. I haven't
Speaker 1: gotten to speak to like um, the parents of food
Speaker 1: or natal I will be happy to. I think you
Speaker 1: gaining the courage and the strength to share your testimony
Speaker 1: is really powerful important because what you've been through is heavy.
Speaker 1: Your testimony can literally save a life. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I hope. So I'm still a mess, and you know,
Speaker 1: I mean I'm the definitely don't want to ask it
Speaker 1: sounds like I've got it together by any means. I don't.
Speaker 1: But it's one day at a time. I mean, like
Speaker 1: that night, I wish it didn't happen that way, but
Speaker 1: I can't fix it. All you can do is try
Speaker 1: to move forward and do better. Thank you guys, Olivia
Speaker 1: Green's mother has barely left the house since her daughter's death.
Speaker 1: Just over a year ago, she agreed to fly across
Speaker 1: the country in hopes of saving another child's life. This
Speaker 1: is Olivia Story. Fifteen year old Olivia Green was a
Speaker 1: creative and fun loving teen with an infectious sense of humor.
Speaker 1: She loved to dance, make silly videos, then go to
Speaker 1: camp every summer. She dreamed of being a marine biologist.
Speaker 1: Hello mother's birthday. Olivia had three siblings and was best
Speaker 1: friends with her younger brother, Jet, who was on the
Speaker 1: autism spectrum. Last April, the night before Easter, Olivia told
Speaker 1: her mom she was having a sleepover with a friend
Speaker 1: and ended up meeting an eighteen year old male she
Speaker 1: was chatting with online. He gave her a painkiller that
Speaker 1: was unknowingly laced with fentinel. Soon after, Olivia was dead.
Speaker 1: M hmm, thank you so much for having me. It's
Speaker 1: very hard. I know, this is really it's very fresh.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is last you never get over. Yeah,
Speaker 1: can you tell us what happened? Yeah, it was Easter
Speaker 1: and my cell phone ring and it was four in
Speaker 1: the morning, and it was the hospital and they asked
Speaker 1: to speak to the mother of Olivia Green, and I
Speaker 1: was like, this is her because Olivia, Okay, can you
Speaker 1: just tell me so I'm not going to panic on
Speaker 1: wait and they said you can't talk about that over
Speaker 1: the phone. So I just went in the clothes that
Speaker 1: I was sleeping in and rushed straight there. I told
Speaker 1: the triage on the mother of Olivia Green, and she
Speaker 1: just got about her booth and went straight to the
Speaker 1: back and then she told the security to come stand
Speaker 1: next me. So now I'm really worried, like did Olivia
Speaker 1: do something bad? Then their emergency room doors open and
Speaker 1: like eight ten doctors came out. They pulled me into
Speaker 1: this little room and I was like, um, there's Olivia. Okay.
Speaker 1: They just put their heads down and they shook their
Speaker 1: head and they said, no, We're sorry. We tried lit'sten
Speaker 1: sooner confused what happened to Olivia. They just said fencing overdose.
Speaker 1: I'm like founting all overdose. I never heard the word
Speaker 1: friends and no before my I know the word overdose
Speaker 1: means you abused drugs. Right, We're not talking about the
Speaker 1: same Olivia. My Olivia is a little girl, thank goodness.
Speaker 1: And um they asked me to very find my name
Speaker 1: and her birthday, and they said it that's the right Olivia. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just started screap, so I was I need to
Speaker 1: say her right now. Yeah, I didn't think it's yeah,
Speaker 1: she doesn't use trucks. So they took me to the
Speaker 1: back and Olivia had a white sheet over and all
Speaker 1: I saw was her life. The same was dangling off
Speaker 1: the bed, right, So I didn't want to go near
Speaker 1: the body because I didn't want it to really beat
Speaker 1: my out of you. And I was waiting for family
Speaker 1: to shop so I can be with me. Crime scene
Speaker 1: walks in and I said, sorry for you loss, we
Speaker 1: need to take pictures like crime scene. So I just
Speaker 1: seen him take the white sheet offer her and it
Speaker 1: was cheese. It was really my Olivia was so confused.
Speaker 1: She was completely naked and nobody't know anything. Where did
Speaker 1: you think she went that night? But she supposed to
Speaker 1: stay at her best friend's house and she lied to
Speaker 1: me and went somewhere else. Right, She went to go
Speaker 1: see a guy right who was an adult because like
Speaker 1: nine tune, she was a little girl. And this is
Speaker 1: someone that she met online. I think they met on
Speaker 1: snapcher having an idea, and detective said she barely know,
Speaker 1: like they just met. So the detective was able to
Speaker 1: talk to the guy that she went to see because
Speaker 1: he can call the police, right, but he didn't call
Speaker 1: for help right away. Do they know what drug he gave?
Speaker 1: It was a percoset. He was a percose of fendonose.
Speaker 1: What killed her? It never made the media. A little
Speaker 1: girl dropped dead and nobody thinks this is important. When
Speaker 1: she died, it's it's almost like they looked at her
Speaker 1: like she was a drunk at it, like her life
Speaker 1: meant nothing. And I don't use the word overtox. Overdose
Speaker 1: implies that you knowingly and carelessly took too much of something. Right,
Speaker 1: Olivia took one pill and it took her off the
Speaker 1: face of the planet forever. She didn't overdose. It was
Speaker 1: grains of sand worth of fentonyl that killed. She was
Speaker 1: poisoned to death. Right, So it looks like Olivia's father, Bruce,
Speaker 1: is going to join us by zoom. Hello Bruce, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you for having me. What is it that you
Speaker 1: would like us to know about Olivia? I beg God,
Speaker 1: I mean I beg God for a little girl. He
Speaker 1: bless me with Olivia and then fifteen years later, she's gone, Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's not one of the roughest things a parent will
Speaker 1: ever deal with. It is the roughest thing a parent
Speaker 1: will ever deal with. Absolutely, the initial drug dealer that
Speaker 1: puts the fetanol inside of all of the percocets and
Speaker 1: everything else, he's a murderer. I mean, he knows the
Speaker 1: fetanol is killing everybody, and you're sticking it in weed,
Speaker 1: is stinking in everything that you can possibly find so
Speaker 1: you can make an extra dollar. Exactly what happened to
Speaker 1: the man who gave Olivia the drug? So he made
Speaker 1: the ninth one one call. And there's a law called
Speaker 1: good Samarratan, So he was the hitro in New York City.
Speaker 1: As long as you call the police, you don't get charged.
Speaker 1: Inside this law, there's no stipulation of times. So if
Speaker 1: he sits back and he gives Olivia a pill at
Speaker 1: twelve o'clock and doesn't decide to call the ambulance until
Speaker 1: four o'clock in the morning, he's still safe. Wow, and
Speaker 1: she was a minor, it was an adult, she was naked.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. So Olivia will never get true. I'm
Speaker 1: so sorry that we have to live with the fact
Speaker 1: that this guy still walks around in the streets. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but heard a voicemail from the guy because I went
Speaker 1: on social media asking people out help me find out
Speaker 1: who did this, and somebody found out who he was
Speaker 1: and they told him to turn himself in, and he
Speaker 1: sent a voice clip saying what happened, And he said
Speaker 1: he gave Olivia percocet. She wasn't high enough, so I
Speaker 1: gave her more. This is obviously an illegal percocet because
Speaker 1: percocet does not have fanonough from this purposely being laced
Speaker 1: to get you, I understanding is that you can just
Speaker 1: get this stuff off the internet now and put put
Speaker 1: in the emoji and a list of drug deals will
Speaker 1: pop up. What you order a percoset off Snapchat and
Speaker 1: they deliberate right to your door the same day. So
Speaker 1: parents are finding their children dead at the computer. You
Speaker 1: know it's twelve thirteen, fourteen year old children t right
Speaker 1: because they don't know a naive. Well. Dr Melissa Clark
Speaker 1: is a Harvard educated emergency room physician who has some
Speaker 1: answers for us. Hello, thank you for joining us. Hello everyone. Well,
Speaker 1: let's start with what is fentinelle? So it has multiple
Speaker 1: uses within medicine. It's for any severe pain associated with surgery,
Speaker 1: pain from cancer therapy. It belongs to that family of opioids.
Speaker 1: So you mentioned percoset also in that family as heroin
Speaker 1: is morphine, but fifty times more potent than heroin and
Speaker 1: a hundred times more potent than morphine. We have some
Speaker 1: photos of fentanyl. WHOA, yeah, so that amount can kill you. Yes,
Speaker 1: that can. And the problem is fentanyl is odorless, it
Speaker 1: doesn't have a taste. There's no way that somebody could
Speaker 1: actually know if it's in a counterfeit percocet pill. When
Speaker 1: people make these counterfeit OXYCODEA on and adderall pills, it
Speaker 1: might be in one pill but not be in the
Speaker 1: other pill. So there's absolutely no way to know. It's
Speaker 1: really almost like playing Russian roulette. So recreational users should
Speaker 1: have their antenna's up. I know they're they're talking about
Speaker 1: these strips that you can get that that will test
Speaker 1: the drugs, but it's such a small amount. Is it
Speaker 1: really going to pick up on that. The fentanyl test
Speaker 1: strips that you're talking about are effective. Originally created to
Speaker 1: detect fentanyl in urine, fentanyl test strips are now used
Speaker 1: to check rugs for this deadly substance. The strips are
Speaker 1: easy to use and available in about half the country. However,
Speaker 1: according to the d e A, because no test is accurate,
Speaker 1: the only way to be sure drug does not contain
Speaker 1: fentanyl is to buy it from a pharmacy with a prescription.
Speaker 1: It's one of the things that I'd say, if you're
Speaker 1: using drugs recreationally or if you have addiction, you should
Speaker 1: use these strips because fentanyl is everywhere and it's unpredictable.
Speaker 1: How fast acting is the fentanyl? How quickly will it
Speaker 1: kill you? When you ingest any opioid and needs. Initially
Speaker 1: you get that sense of euphoria, but then your drive
Speaker 1: to breathe is going to go down or stop breathing,
Speaker 1: and that's actually what kills you. Fentanyl can do that
Speaker 1: within a matter of ten minutes or so. So the
Speaker 1: body gets so relaxed that you stop exactly and so
Speaker 1: basically just go to sleep. And so that would be
Speaker 1: the same thing that happened to Olivia. Yes, unfortunately, so right.
Speaker 1: I know, the old school way of parenting is like
Speaker 1: kind of keep information away from your children, but I
Speaker 1: think in this day and age, we have to be
Speaker 1: the ones educating our children around these kinds of topics.
Speaker 1: So you can't be mad at me. Will know when
Speaker 1: I'm talking to you, I don't get mad at you.
Speaker 1: This is the thing. I think the awareness is the
Speaker 1: most important part. A lot of my friends have experimented
Speaker 1: and it's it's what you do when you're young, but
Speaker 1: this is you just don't want to play that game.
Speaker 1: When I was growing up, I lied to my parents
Speaker 1: about everything. I lied to you, and it really knew
Speaker 1: where I was. I told her I was all That's
Speaker 1: why I relate. I told my mother I was all
Speaker 1: kinds of places. I can definitely relate to what happened.
Speaker 1: Do you think your child is one place and she's
Speaker 1: someplace totally different? Frand I did that all the time.
Speaker 1: But sometimes you can have a great relationship with your parents,
Speaker 1: and it's not really about that. It's just about as
Speaker 1: a young person feeling like there's certain things that you
Speaker 1: want to do that you don't think was acceptable for
Speaker 1: your parents. Totally okay. So I just wanted to ask
Speaker 1: you and Bruce both how has olivia story saved lives.
Speaker 1: I didn't know popping pills was a thing for kids.
Speaker 1: I shared a real graphic post one day to reach
Speaker 1: as many kids as I can before it's too late
Speaker 1: for them. And a lot of kids were messaging me,
Speaker 1: like thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen year old children telling me
Speaker 1: that they already addicted to pills and that was a
Speaker 1: wake up call for them. They're not going to mess
Speaker 1: with pills no more because they didn't want to put
Speaker 1: their mother through what they saw my post. I even
Speaker 1: had Snoop Dogg's daughter. She shared olivia story and said
Speaker 1: that was the wake up call for wow. And this
Speaker 1: is one of the videos in the hospital the night
Speaker 1: that Olivia past. I love you, Olivia, I love you
Speaker 1: so much, bigger girl. Hello, please come to me my dream. Please,
Speaker 1: please let me know your stiff here. Please. That's the
Speaker 1: only way I'm gonna say yeah, yeah, and in your heart. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I still kids, except that she's gone from a pill.
Speaker 1: I wish it was from natural causes, even a car accident.
Speaker 1: What if I'm easier from two deal with. My father
Speaker 1: is a preacher and I grew up in the church,
Speaker 1: and after this, I just lost my faith. To have
Speaker 1: it taken from you over a pill. I'm trying my
Speaker 1: best to get back into the faith. But how do
Speaker 1: you I'm lost, lost, I totally understand, I really do. No.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. This was a real education for
Speaker 1: me today. Thank you, Thank you Bruce for joining us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you, Bruce, and thank you, thank you. You're welcome.
Speaker 1: In the past year, almost seventy thousand Americans of every
Speaker 1: age and background have died from fentanyl. We honor their
Speaker 1: lives by speaking their names. Olivia Green, Fukuwan Johnson, Enrico
Speaker 1: Colon Jelly, Natalie Williamson, Michael Kay Williams gone too soon
Speaker 1: because of fentanyl. For some, it was their first time,
Speaker 1: like twenty two year old Cassandra Saldivar. Twenty one year
Speaker 1: old Lexei Alaj, a Minnesota singer and a rapper, was
Speaker 1: on a steady rise to start them. Frankita Davis dreamed
Speaker 1: of being a dental hygienist. Thirteen year old Luca Manuel
Speaker 1: loved blasting Prince in his mom's car. Alexander Neville Alyssa,
Speaker 1: Norman Luke right, Sixteen year old Logan Williams starting the flash.
Speaker 1: His mom said he had an infectious spirit. Angelina Rodgers,
Speaker 1: Shanina Mowitt, Geo Perkins, Hamid ab Aljibar was a community
Speaker 1: leader in Milwaukee. Twenty two year old Charlie Turning was
Speaker 1: in love and planning his future. Jessica Philson left behind
Speaker 1: her three year old daughter, a Laura o were loved
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