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Speaker 1: The city is headed for a disaster of biblical proportion.

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Speaker 2: What you mean biblical?

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Speaker 3: What he means is.

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Speaker 1: Old Testament here mayor real wrath of God type of stuff,

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Speaker 1: Parry's something strange?

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Speaker 4: Who you gonna call?

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Speaker 2: Ron and Aian?

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Speaker 4: Every week everybody says, what are you gonna talk about

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Speaker 4: this week? And then I don't know, because there's a

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Speaker 4: lot I can talk about. There's a lot I can

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Speaker 4: tell you about what goes on in the day to

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Speaker 3: It's thet's say Boff marsh Allow that what chir doctor?

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Speaker 4: Has anybody diagnosed this or attempted to diagnose it.

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Speaker 3: I plugged in a code reader and it came up

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Speaker 3: prank shaft position censor and camshaft position censor on Bank

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Speaker 3: Warren and I replaced forth Rose.

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Speaker 5: Welcome to the radio home of Ronanane, the Car Doctor

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Speaker 5: since nineteen ninety one. This is where car owners the

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Speaker 5: world overturn to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair.

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Speaker 5: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up

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Speaker 4: The garage doors are open, but I am here to

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Speaker 3: Running?

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Speaker 4: Well, it looks like we're off to another round of

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Speaker 4: talking with the car doctor. And thanks for being here,

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Speaker 4: Ron and Inian at your service. You know, my next guest,

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Speaker 4: we're going to start right off with our interview this hour.

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Speaker 4: You know, our next guest really needs no introduction. He's

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Speaker 4: a long time he's like family here. We think of

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Speaker 4: Ron Ross as somebody that just he's always hanging around,

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Speaker 4: and we're glad to have him hanging around with us

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Speaker 4: because it's he's got a long history in motorsports, in

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Speaker 4: engine building, in performance. He was formerly the owner of

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Speaker 4: Simon K Performance out of New Jersey. A lot of

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Speaker 4: you will remember that name, Simon K Performance down Gasoline

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Speaker 4: Alley down in Patterson, New Jersey. And he has since

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Speaker 4: moved on as the industry has changed, and he is

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Speaker 4: now with ATL fuel Cells, still involved in performance, still

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Speaker 4: helping cars go faster, and still racing a little bit

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Speaker 4: on the side. I think, mister Ross, gosh, we're still doing.

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Speaker 3: This can you believe it's been about twelve years now?

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Speaker 4: I think it's longer than that. I think it's closer

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Speaker 3: I don't want to admit to fifteen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't. I can't believe that, you know, this

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Speaker 4: is still going on. First, I can't believe I'm still

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Speaker 4: talking to you. And second, I can't believe I'm on

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Speaker 4: the air this long. It's like thirty four years now.

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Speaker 4: Nobody's you know, it's just it's crazy. So Simon K Performance,

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Speaker 4: you know, re revisited for everybody if you can. You know,

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Speaker 4: it was one of the premier performance shops starting back

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Speaker 4: when and until when and then you know it's gone.

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Speaker 2: You know what was that like?

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Speaker 4: You know, because there was such a that was such

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, it's exactly right. It actually started before it

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Speaker 3: the little area Patterson there that's known as Gasoline Alley

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Speaker 3: great run of about twenty one years, and at that

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Speaker 3: you know what, I still love doing the engine work.

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Speaker 4: Is are there are there?

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Speaker 4: Are the problems with engine parts still ongoing? I mean,

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Speaker 4: Now you know you're now at ATL ATL fuel Cells. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 4: this is a story into its elf.

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Speaker 3: What what we you know?

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Speaker 4: Who is gonna I'm gonna play dummy here for a minute.

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Speaker 4: Who is ATL fuel Cells? Ron Ross?

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Speaker 3: Oh, there we go. So ATL has started. Peter Regnan

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Speaker 3: owns the company still to this day, started in nineteen seventy.

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Speaker 3: What we manufactured, the specialty is a deformable bladder for fuel. So,

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Speaker 3: in reality, to put it in Laymans terns, what we

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Speaker 3: have here is a safety gas tank. When we call

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Speaker 3: those fuel cells. This is something that in the event

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Speaker 4: Hell, so it's a it's it's an accident proof guess

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Speaker 3: That's a real good way to put it. Yes, in

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Speaker 4: so give us an example, where where in racing are

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Speaker 3: Pretty much everywhere. As ATO, we're the big I guess,

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Speaker 3: We make the fuel tank sell bladder for every F

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Speaker 3: Every NASCAR Cup team in the entire country, as well

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Speaker 4: How long were you at ATL now run.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard to believe this. This is my twelfth

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Speaker 4: So you know, in the twelve years you're there, has

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Speaker 3: Oh? So right, it's up across the board the racers.

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Speaker 3: The racers are really good at re engineering and making

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Speaker 3: And that's just brought about a whole new dimension of building.

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Speaker 4: So what you're saying is, if you've gotten I'll be

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Speaker 4: very basic and very layman here, you've got a twenty

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Speaker 3: Yes, we certainly do a lot of that and that

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Speaker 4: What does it take to make a fuel cell for

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Speaker 4: So it takes is it a team of guys, a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we have quite a team here in our New

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Speaker 3: But some of the cells take twenty thirty hours and

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Speaker 4: ATL started in New Jersey so many years ago, right,

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Speaker 4: isn't that where Peter started it? Or am I wrong?

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Speaker 3: This little town called Waldwick. I don't know if you

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Speaker 4: Week working at least but on a bad day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I did start there in a small two car garage.

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Speaker 4: See, I never knew it was in Woldock. I thought

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Speaker 4: they started in Ramsey, down by the railroad tracks. But

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Speaker 4: that's just boy, what a small world. That's crazy. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you're you're I mean, listen, when I called you to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was actually a Charlotte Motor Speedway for the

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Speaker 4: Now, when you when you make a fuel cell for

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Speaker 4: a NASCAR car, if it's the same series, right, are

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Speaker 4: all the fuel cells made the same way? Or does

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Speaker 4: do the teams get specific? One wants this baffle, one

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Speaker 4: wants that baffle. You know, how does that work well?

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Speaker 3: For the high end teams like the Cup teams. It

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Speaker 3: certain way the lower classes. Has it come down a

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Speaker 3: do have some leeway. The external dimensions are called out

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Speaker 4: Now, just out of curiosity ballpark, how much could a

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's yeah, it's the inner little inner bladder liner

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's not expensive. Hey, when we come back,

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Speaker 4: there's other uses though for the fuel cells. Right, I

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Speaker 4: show and formerly Assignmonic Performance. I'm Ronning Innie in the car, Doctor,

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Speaker 4: He's the expert at making your vehicle take you where

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Speaker 4: Hey, we're here talking with Ron Ross of ATL fuel

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Speaker 3: We certainly do automotive renown for our racing bladders and

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Speaker 4: All from a tiny little garage in Waldwick, New Jersey.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, all kinds of plastic shields which you're pain

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Speaker 3: That now, right, Uh they are you. They have a

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Speaker 4: How does you know We've got a young man Quinn

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Speaker 4: Trimmer Motorsports that we we sponsor, we help them out

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Speaker 4: You know, how does someone like that get to NASCAR?

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Speaker 4: Ron do they? It is just because it's it's a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, there's two ways to really get in, and

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Speaker 4: Is that the future of racing, which is where I

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Speaker 3: Well, I know there's a few more things that are

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Speaker 3: So yeah, you can see a ticket that on some

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Speaker 4: Mister Ross, our time is just about up. In the

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Speaker 4: You know, Ron, I gotta tell you on a personal basis, man,

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Speaker 4: And I'm gonna say it right here. Let's let's get

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Speaker 3: Oh that that sounds great. Maybe we'll hear about the

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Speaker 4: We'll talk about that then. So as always, always a pleasure, Ron,

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Speaker 4: and I'll be back right after this. Don't go away, moodama. Okay, Hey,

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Speaker 4: return caller. John, Welcome back to the Card Doctor, sir.

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Speaker 4: I've got a feeling that we're gonna talk more about

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: Eighty six El Camino has told it had black death

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Speaker 4: So for the record, I'm kind of going through this

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Speaker 4: black death hasn't gotten to it, you're good. If the

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00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,919
Speaker 4: black death has gotten to it in some varying lesser

437
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 4: form than what you saw at the condenser and so

438
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 4: on as you moved through the system approaching the evaporator,

439
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 4: then backflush it, try blowing all the junk out, and

440
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 4: I would literally, you know, blow it into some sort

441
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 4: of a big garbage bag with white paper towels in

442
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,919
Speaker 4: it to try and catch the contaminant and just how

443
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 4: black and dirty is it looking, or you're looking for

444
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,639
Speaker 4: a way to gauge it. So when you get to

445
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 4: the point where if you do that a few times

446
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 4: and the white paper towels are still white, you know

447
00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,560
Speaker 4: the system's clean. At that point. It's at the shot

448
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 4: because pulling that evaporator case off the firewall. Boy, that's

449
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:09,200
Speaker 4: a lot, you know that that that plastic housing or

450
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 4: that fiberglass plastic housing, whatever that material was that GM

451
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 4: came up with back in the eighties. It's the same

452
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 4: stuff my seventy two has. And I look at that

453
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 4: and I think of how brittle it is, and you know,

454
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 4: otherwise we're into do we do a do we replace

455
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 4: the evaporator case? You know, how big of a project

456
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 4: do we want to make this?

457
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,640
Speaker 2: I know I don't think we can find one.

458
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 4: Of them, right, you know it, right because you've got

459
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,880
Speaker 4: you know, you're you know, an eighty six l Camino,

460
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 4: although it's probably the same as a Chevelle, but then

461
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 4: how many eighty six Chevelles? How popular were eighty six

462
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,919
Speaker 4: Chevelles or malibus actually is what they would have been

463
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:49,159
Speaker 4: in eighty six? Carlo, yeah, Monte Carlos, Right, you know

464
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,360
Speaker 4: that that body style, So you know that's that's where

465
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 4: you got to go to the compressor, all right, because

466
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 4: I know the compressor is what's first and foremost on

467
00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:01,120
Speaker 4: your mind. You know, like I told you the last time,

468
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,119
Speaker 4: I use an ac Delco supply house in New Jersey,

469
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 4: and when they were searching for the compressor for that.

470
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 4: It was an early A I think it was like

471
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 4: an eighty four Buick. No, it was an eighty four

472
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 4: Chevy and pala is what it was. I can see

473
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 4: the customer's name in my head, and what she was

474
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 4: looking for was a direct replacement. I was able to

475
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 4: find a Delco R four compressor and they told me

476
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 4: that there were more at the AC Delco depot in Texas.

477
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 4: Now you've gone that route, you have you tried to

478
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 4: source that or you haven't gotten that far.

479
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 2: I haven't gotten that far. I just started a dealer,

480
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 2: So come to check them.

481
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,719
Speaker 4: Directly and ask the dealer just you know, you're in Oregon.

482
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 4: Don't assume that the dealer is going to check every

483
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 4: Delco warehouse or has that ability. Sometimes the guy in

484
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,400
Speaker 4: the dealership may only just look and see at GM

485
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 4: doesn't have it. It's not in GM vintage parts per se,

486
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 4: and that means it's not out there. But as of

487
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 4: let's see, this is fall as of two months ago.

488
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 4: When was the last time we talked two months ago?

489
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 4: A couple, Yeah, yeah, there was a few of those

490
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 4: in the in the in the Texas depot for AC Delco.

491
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 4: Do I like that better than the after market choices

492
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 4: is probably your next question, right, Yeah, I like the look.

493
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 4: I'm weird like that. I like to pop the hood

494
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,919
Speaker 4: and see that original R for that original GM frigid

495
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 4: air compressor. I just I just think it looks right.

496
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 4: You know, if my choices are no AC or you know,

497
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 4: a new aftermarket AC, then obviously I'm gonna go new

498
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 4: after market. But if I can retain the look, I

499
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 4: want to retain the look. I think that's I think

500
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 4: that's a big part about some of these older cars.

501
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 4: You know, even even when we're building a hot rot,

502
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 4: I just you know, if you ever saw the hot rod,

503
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 4: if you ever saw my fifty five Chevy, everything is

504
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 4: as it rolled out of the well, not everything, but

505
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 4: most of it is as it rolled out of the

506
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 4: factory in fifty five. You know, it's it's all mechanical gauges,

507
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 4: it's it's no fancy dashboards, it's you know, it's to me,

508
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 4: that's what a hot rod's supposed to be. Kind of mechanical.

509
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 4: But that's just my taste. You know, you build it

510
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:13,199
Speaker 4: your way, you know, you know what kind of companies

511
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 4: are you looking at? As far as if you can't

512
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 4: find a compressor. Who are you talking to?

513
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 2: Well, there is, I think it's called the UAC.

514
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 4: Something like that number, Universal air Conditioning. Their stuff's pretty good.

515
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 4: I've used some of their stuff in older vehicle. As

516
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 4: a matter of fact, I've got their receiver drawer in

517
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 4: the Monte Carlo. It actually it's a pretty good look.

518
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,479
Speaker 4: It looks like original stuff, or as close as I'm

519
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 4: going to get. It's got it's got a it's got

520
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 4: a cyclass in it. It was the same length, the

521
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 4: same size. You know, it could be taken for a

522
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 4: GM piece if you don't look too col carefully. You

523
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 4: have something to measured against. But yeah, and their product

524
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,199
Speaker 4: quality is pretty good. What else you got? What else

525
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 4: you're looking at? Have you seen four seasons at all?

526
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 2: Uh? There is four seasons. I've looked at a certain

527
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 2: company on the web and they've got four season U

528
00:25:58,200 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 2: A C and another three.

529
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 4: The acronym GPD, OKAYD is GPD General Parts DEEPOT maybe.

530
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 2: Something like that. It's part of standard standard motor parts. Okay. Yeah,

531
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 2: one of the part of standard motor.

532
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 4: Four seasons is four seasons. Back in the day, yeah,

533
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,959
Speaker 4: four seasons back in the day was the ac company

534
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,199
Speaker 4: they were. It was really good stuff. You know, they

535
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 4: they had their act together. They made great product back

536
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 4: in the day. They're not as I don't think they're

537
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 4: as dominant as they once were because I think the

538
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 4: market has changed so much over the last twenty five years.

539
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 4: But I would if you can find a new, old stock,

540
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 4: new four seasons compressor and it looks that, you know,

541
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 4: looks reasonably about that point, it's not going to matter.

542
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 4: You can't find the GM piece at that point. That's

543
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 4: where you're using it. You know, I have no problem

544
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,360
Speaker 4: putting in four seasons on there. You know, it's it's

545
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 4: it's it's a look thing, you know. I think that's

546
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 4: what you're going for with this card.

547
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 2: John so Well, they talk about a twelve o'clock coil

548
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 2: and an nine o'clock coil. Is that the connector for

549
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 2: the power?

550
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's where that's that's where the connector is going

551
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 4: to come in.

552
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 2: Okay, you know, was like a twelve o'clock. But that's

553
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 2: interesting that GPD matches the number that's on the estimate

554
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 2: that I finally got from the air conditioning company I've

555
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 2: been working with here, right, and so that's what the

556
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,719
Speaker 2: it's an upgraded design compressor.

557
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 4: Replacement right for that R four and not not the

558
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 4: worst thing to go through, if you have to listen.

559
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 4: We used to at one point way back when we

560
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 4: used to put the long the A six, the axial

561
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 4: A six compressor GM had prior to the R four,

562
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 4: and we used to convert there was there was actually

563
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 4: conversion kits available and we would convert the the A

564
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 4: the R force to the A six is and it

565
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 4: was just a bigger compressor and we'd have to adjust

566
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 4: for refrigerat a little bit. But those compressors had more durability.

567
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 4: The little round compressors just didn't hold up. And you know,

568
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 4: it was, you know, part of GM's downfall back in

569
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 4: the late eighties and the nineties. You know, they started

570
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 4: to take the slide. So yeah, all right, Kittle.

571
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: Well okay, very good. Well I'll keep looking at the

572
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 2: additional components. Had come up with a list, and I

573
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 2: think I'm maybe just gonna give it a shot.

574
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's you know, the other thing is that should

575
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 4: be you know, before I let you go, that should

576
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 4: be an orifice tube AC system. Correct, Yeah, yeah, so

577
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 4: pull the orifice tube out. How much credit is on that.

578
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 3: You know that they said it's full of credit. Okay,

579
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 3: I sad, right, No, but you know it's.

580
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 2: A real devil to take those out. And I bought

581
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 2: the tool, right.

582
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 4: So yeah, you know what if you just for giggles,

583
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,479
Speaker 4: shoot a little peb blaster in there. I'm sure you've

584
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 4: got some of that line around the house or the

585
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 4: garage or whatever. Shoot a little peb blaster in there.

586
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 4: Let it soak, shoot it again, get a pair of

587
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 4: long needle nose, give it a twist, and you may

588
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 4: find that peb dislodges it because it will break down,

589
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 4: just it'll break down rust, it'll break down a lot

590
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 4: of things, and eventually you may find that comes out.

591
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 4: And then take a flashlight and look down the tube again,

592
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 4: you know, to get past that orifice tube, because you

593
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 4: got to think of it like this. Once that orifice

594
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 4: tube gets packed with crud, not much is getting past it.

595
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's what that's what we think we'll do.

596
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 2: We'll replace the evaporator if we.

597
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 4: Have to, right, just just trying to avoid doing that. Yeah,

598
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 4: you can back a good a good BackFlash kit. Like

599
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 4: I said, I found one on Amazon not too long ago.

600
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 4: I think it was twenty five bucks, twenty two bucks

601
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 4: something like that. It's not like you're investing a whole lot.

602
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 4: And if it works once and you use it once,

603
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 4: who cares throw it away? It's a throwaway item at

604
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 4: that point.

605
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 3: What about the hoses.

606
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 2: The hoses seem to be different for one thirty four

607
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 2: than there are twelve, Well they are.

608
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 4: The difference is that the one thirty four hoses are

609
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 4: barrier hoses. They have plastic sleeves on the inside. So

610
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 4: if you use, if you get the hoses replaced, and

611
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 4: you could do that, just get different insput on them,

612
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 4: then just get barrier hose. If not the R twelve hose. Personally,

613
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 4: I think that's gonna leak out anyway, because we let

614
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 4: these cars tend to sit during the winter months and

615
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 4: we're just going to lose the charge no matter what.

616
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 4: It's just going to be part of the disease, you know,

617
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 4: and how it goes, all right, kiddo, Okay, I gotta run.

618
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 4: You're very welcome, Johnny be well, take good care. Let

619
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 4: us know what happens. I'm ronning any in the car. Doctor.

620
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 4: We are back right after this. Don't go away. Let's

621
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 4: do a couple of emails. Let's answer some emails real

622
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 4: quick if we can. This one comes to us from Jeff.

623
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 4: Hey Ron, just a brief question where snowbirds in Maine.

624
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 4: We're headed back to Florida. We're going to need a

625
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 4: car at some point during the winter months. And with

626
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 4: all the hurricanes and floodings, is there a way to

627
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 4: tell if a car has been flooded? If you can

628
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 4: email me your answer, thank you very much, or answer

629
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 4: on here Jeff. You know, Jeff, great question, right, And

630
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 4: we've sure seen some really crazy weather over the last

631
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 4: couple of weeks and months, and you know, flooded vehicles

632
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 4: today are a concern and a lot of vehicles. Listen,

633
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 4: they do some amazing things moving vehicles around. You know,

634
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 4: you could be up in the Northeast and getting a

635
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 4: car from Florida. You could be in California getting a

636
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 4: car from Florida, vice versa. So you really have to

637
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 4: look that used car over. I think it makes a

638
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 4: very strong case for purchasing used vehicles from a reputable source,

639
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 4: you know, whether it be a dealer or you know,

640
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 4: if you're buying something locally from someone, to look it

641
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 4: over carefully. One of the places I always like to look.

642
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 4: Two things is one is the trunk. I always look

643
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 4: in the trunk and if it's if it's got a

644
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 4: spare tire, well, I will lift up that cover and look.

645
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 4: In some cases, I'll even take the spare tire out

646
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 4: because they never seem to clean out, you know, the

647
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 4: well that well like way to put it. But you know,

648
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 4: you will see moisture, you you may get a little

649
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Speaker 4: bit of a mildew smell. You may see some rust

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Speaker 4: on the spare depending upon how long the car was flooded.

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Speaker 4: And it's just a good telltale sign, you know, was

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Speaker 4: thehicle in a flood? You know, always a good And

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Speaker 4: is there a water line. I've actually seen flood cars

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Speaker 4: where you'll take the spare tire cover off and you'll

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Speaker 4: look inside that well area or any one of the

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Speaker 4: you know, compartments in the back of an suv or

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Speaker 4: something where it's and there'll actually be a waterline, like

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Speaker 4: a ring around the bathtub kind of a waterline. So

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Speaker 4: you know that there's a problem there, you know, So

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Speaker 4: that's there. The other thing I always look at is

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Speaker 4: smell it, feel around the carpet, feel under the seats,

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Speaker 4: all right, and then look at the age of the car.

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Speaker 4: Look at the carpeting. Toyota Alexis, for example, they run

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Speaker 4: a bio organic matting behind the carpeting. If it gets wet,

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Speaker 4: it has to be replaced, otherwise it'll create mold, so

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Speaker 4: they'll replace the carpet. So if you're buying a Toyota Alexis,

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Speaker 4: and there's others out there that do the same thing,

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Speaker 4: if the carpeting is brand new and you can tell,

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Speaker 4: you'll smell it, you'll feel it, it'll look new, it'll

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Speaker 4: look less worn than the rest of the interior. Sometimes

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Speaker 4: you know why why was that carpeting replaced? Is the

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Speaker 4: question that always comes back. So just you know, just

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Speaker 4: things to consider. Flood cars are going to be a

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Speaker 4: problem for the foreseeable future. Every time we have this

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Speaker 4: kind of crazy weather, it's always a good six to

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Speaker 4: eight months before it seems like things settled down. So

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Speaker 4: you want to be certain that what you're buying has

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Speaker 4: some sort of a warranty on it. And like I said,

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Speaker 4: from a reputable source. So let me pull over and

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Speaker 4: take a pause and I'll be back right after this.

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Speaker 4: I'm running any in the car. Doctor, don't go away.

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Speaker 4: Another quick, great hour of radio, and I'm thankful to

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Speaker 4: have been here for you and I'm glad you were here.

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Speaker 4: You know, always a pleasure running any in the car. Doctor.

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Speaker 4: The phone number is eight five to five, five six

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Speaker 4: zero nine nine zero zero. I should point that out

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Speaker 4: that that number is twenty four to seven. It's always

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Speaker 4: there eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero.

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Speaker 4: You can call, leave a message and we'll get you

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Speaker 4: up on the next broadcast. We're alive two to four

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Speaker 4: pm East Coast Time or East Coast Guys on the weekend,

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Speaker 4: and we we are a live show on Saturday, but

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Speaker 4: obviously some of our affiliates take us on delay, so

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Speaker 4: that's the story there. I do want to point out

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Speaker 4: that up on our website cardoctorshow dot com you can

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Speaker 4: find a contact us and we're doing Wednesday night recordings

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Speaker 4: to bring some of your questions up to us midweek

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Speaker 4: and put them in the can for future shows, which

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Speaker 4: we'd like to do. I want to close out with

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Speaker 4: this quick email from Bill and White House Station New

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Speaker 4: Jersey rights Ron. I heard your comments on driving an

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Speaker 4: old steel car. I drove my nineteen fifty seven bell

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Speaker 4: Air to Hershey last week to the Big Meat sitting

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Speaker 4: on the highway driving at sixty five, you certainly get

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Speaker 4: a smooth ride different from modern cars only having a

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Speaker 4: lap belt does feel different. It does, And you know, Bill,

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Speaker 4: it's crazy. I had the hot rod out a couple

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Speaker 4: of times now in the past few weeks. It's been

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Speaker 4: nicer weather here in the Northeast, a little cold, but

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Speaker 4: still doable. And you know, there's something about tooling along

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Speaker 4: at sixty five seventy miles an hour in the hot

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Speaker 4: rod with the header's closed. I keep the plugs in

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Speaker 4: and you know, just tooling along and it's just as

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Speaker 4: quiet as a modern car, and it's more fun to drive.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of road field there, and you know,

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Speaker 4: it just adds something to the It's just all steel

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Speaker 4: and it's real. So as I like to say, so,

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Speaker 4: I loved your note, and you know the fact that

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Speaker 4: you're driving me fifty seven one in distance. Anyway, I'm

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Speaker 4: ronning Andy in the car doctor till the next time.

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Speaker 4: Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.

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Speaker 2: See it.