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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are

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Speaker 1: you a Charlotte? Hi? Hi everybody, we are back here.

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Speaker 1: We are Canille Levington and I recapping the finale of

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Speaker 1: season one. Oh come on, ye faithful, let's jump back in.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's read. Uh this is tun We are

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Speaker 1: at this really really fascinating and important episode. And I

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Speaker 1: do remember people would come up to me and say, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, people sometimes just talk about their favorite episodes,

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Speaker 1: and people would say like, oh, I love Oh, come

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Speaker 1: on you Faithful, and I'd be like, really, because to me,

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Speaker 1: the whole first season was a wash. I don't really

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Speaker 1: remember that much of it. Okay, yeah, it was a lot.

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Speaker 1: We filmed the whole first season in three months. It

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Speaker 1: was new Yeah, fast, fast, fast. That's kind of Gorilla

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Speaker 1: TV making, you know, it's just like bam bam, bam,

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Speaker 1: bam bam. You know.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't really in some ways. I I obviously would

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Speaker 1: read the scripts and was around and all, like often

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Speaker 1: we'd cross board locations, right, so maybe Sarah would be

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Speaker 1: doing a scene with mister Big and we'd be waiting

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Speaker 1: to do, you know, a group scene or whatever. So

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Speaker 1: I was around for a lot of it, but I

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Speaker 1: wasn't really tuned into the level of work that she

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Speaker 1: was doing. Like I'm completely wowed every time i look

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Speaker 1: back at these episodes, and partly I'm wowed because like,

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Speaker 1: mister Big is not worth this effort, Like I've said

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Speaker 1: this your times, but I'm like, I agree, Okay, thank you,

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Speaker 1: because but I always have Now, did you.

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Speaker 3: Okay, explain I've never been a fan, got it? So

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Speaker 3: I wasn't a super fan of Aiden either.

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Speaker 2: I just I just wasn't.

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Speaker 1: Do you think good? He No, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I know, I don't think that at all. I just

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Speaker 1: Do it?

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Speaker 2: I think she's bad taste of men.

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Speaker 1: It's okay, it's okay, some of us have bad taste

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Speaker 1: in men. Okay, listen, it's the truth.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 3: I don't get Big. Okay, we'll get into it because

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Speaker 3: I have a lot of opinions about this episode.

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Speaker 1: Tell me help me, because I mean through the live

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Speaker 1: really now, looking back, I also have a lot of opinions,

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Speaker 1: and I didn't at the time. I just accepted it

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean there was definitely.

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Speaker 3: I mean, isn't there a time where where we all

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Speaker 3: have bad taste in men? I think what bothers me

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Speaker 3: about Carrie is that like she hang on hung onto

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Speaker 1: Me neither when I look back at the time, I

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Speaker 1: and so she goes and she's standing on this very

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Speaker 1: see Big walk out with his very beautiful mother. Good lord, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: marian Seldy's an incredible actress. And she's like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: Big in his mother. It's almost like she didn't realize

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Speaker 1: like her face and all the things that she's knowing,

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Speaker 3: Carrie has no poker face, and it drives me crazy,

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Speaker 3: So I are you kidding? I love you, Sarah. First off,

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Speaker 2: Well, and I also think that that was indeed listen.

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Speaker 3: Also to her credit, we loved the show because I

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Speaker 3: I feel like viewers felt like they were girlfriends with you, right,

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Speaker 1: I know. See I needed you in my life. I know,

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Speaker 1: Like I never I look back and I'm looking at

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Speaker 1: And she's just everything. She's just trying so hard and

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Speaker 1: I just I'm not impressed with him. With him, I'm

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Speaker 1: No, and I'm so glad. Anyway, let's get back before

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Speaker 1: you guys. It's hard. It's hard because there's some big themes.

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Speaker 1: Look there, you are, You're very adorable. You're not canceled.

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Speaker 2: We're just saying, I'm finn, I'm calling it what it is.

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Speaker 1: You're not alone. People have a lot of very strong

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Speaker 1: This episode, Oh Come All Ye Faithful was directed by

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Speaker 1: the column before the book was published. She was living

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Speaker 1: in a doorman building. Like that's how well she was

433
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Speaker 1: doing obviously a different time, right, like that's the different time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it wouldn't be. There was no doorman anywhere, No,

435
00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:27,760
Speaker 2: exactly neither.

436
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Speaker 1: But it was an upper echelon of But that's what Yeah,

437
00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,719
Speaker 1: that's what the sure was, right of Like watching it,

438
00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:38,080
Speaker 1: I was living vicariously through you guys, right, it was aspirational, yes, yes,

439
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:42,160
Speaker 1: And I mean we were never trying to be regular,

440
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,040
Speaker 1: like who runs around the city, didn't want right, right, right,

441
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,440
Speaker 1: But I mean I just think it's important to say that. Okay, yeah,

442
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,960
Speaker 1: you know, like we weren't. I don't think we were

443
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Speaker 1: making an effort to just be regular, no, right, yeah, yeah,

444
00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:08,360
Speaker 1: just just wanted to say that. Okay, so we're back.

445
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,879
Speaker 1: We're back now. So Carrie, that's her. She's now going

446
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Speaker 1: to investigate religion, which is super fascinating. This is why

447
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 1: she goes to the cutest little corner to look at

448
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 1: that cute, cute, cute church. Some of the churches in

449
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,360
Speaker 1: New York are so beautiful, so so beautiful, and she's

450
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 1: saying that everyone's very fashionable, and she names some fashion designers,

451
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 1: which is kind of funny. I think she literally says escata,

452
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,919
Speaker 1: which is so adorably nineties, right eighties and nineties. And

453
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 1: then she sees mister big AND's mom and she's shocked, obviously,

454
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Speaker 1: And of course Pig's mother is so beautiful and statuesque,

455
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Speaker 1: and he's so kind of doting on her, which I

456
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Speaker 1: also find really interesting and I think that's attractive to carry.

457
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Speaker 1: Though she doesn't say it, though, it is kind of

458
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 1: could be its own episode, right of like is that

459
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Speaker 1: a good thing or a bad thing? Yes, you know

460
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Speaker 1: what I mean. Yeah, So she's all shocked, and then

461
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,159
Speaker 1: they have the crazy, crazy conversation on the corner and

462
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Speaker 1: basically Big comes over, he puts his cab, his mom

463
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Speaker 1: in the cab. He comes over and he says, yeah,

464
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Speaker 1: I take my mom to church every Sunday. And she's like, oh,

465
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Speaker 1: why didn't I know that? And he says, well, you

466
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 1: write on Sundays, so I just you know, that's what

467
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 1: I do. That's our Sunday thing. And she's like, well,

468
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 1: you know, I would love to go to church, and

469
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Speaker 1: you know, we've never talked about it or whatever, and

470
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Speaker 1: he says something like, oh, that's just my thing I

471
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Speaker 1: do with my mom, you know, and he's kind of

472
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Speaker 1: his evasive self, and she has all the feelings go

473
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 1: across her face and say she said yes, But I

474
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 1: love that. I love it.

475
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Speaker 2: I love it as a viewer because it lets us know.

476
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Speaker 1: But as a girlfriend, yeah, I like for me, I

477
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:46,400
Speaker 1: love it because a she's just so complex in a way,

478
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 1: right because like like you can see the thoughts literally cross,

479
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 1: like you shor what I'm saying, like literally, which is

480
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,439
Speaker 1: not easy to do as an actor, you know.

481
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Speaker 2: No, it's phenomenal.

482
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's this phenomenal but because he's giving so little,

483
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 3: I want her to give a little.

484
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Speaker 1: I get it.

485
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Speaker 2: Well, she does back up.

486
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Speaker 1: Do you remember in that scene she's kind of you know,

487
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 1: she's looking at him in that way that she does,

488
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 1: and then she kind of totally she's like okay, because

489
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Speaker 1: he's like, let's go get a cup of coffee. But true,

490
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,640
Speaker 1: that's true, right, Yes, I think that's her realizing I've

491
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 1: got to pull back. And that's the other thing that

492
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 1: I think about their relationship, even from like maybe the

493
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Speaker 1: first or second episode where they have all those run

494
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: ins but they don't go on a date and then

495
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 1: they're standing at the front in the back of a

496
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Speaker 1: park to meet. It's like all they're kind of like

497
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 1: cross signals. And then she sees him on the street

498
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 1: and she leans over and does his crossword puzzle word.

499
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Speaker 1: She tells him what it is, and then she walks away.

500
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 1: But she does have some game, as you would say, she.

501
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 3: Definitely has game, right, but it's and I think she

502
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 3: has more game with other people.

503
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 2: Something is disarming for her.

504
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 1: About Big, right, But that's that's that's life exactly.

505
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Speaker 2: And also I'm her best friend and you want to protect.

506
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 1: Her absolutely absolutely. Oh I agree. Well, well, I'm just

507
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 1: my feeling is I'm mad at Big I'm mad at Big. Oh,

508
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 1: I'm mad at Big al because look at her face.

509
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: Just give her what she wants. Yeah, give her what

510
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: she wants always, my god, I know, I know. And

511
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: he definitely doesn't deserve her. And I'm so happy what

512
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 1: happens in this episode. But we're not there yet, so

513
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: let's keep going. So then they go to the they

514
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: and I'm there. I'm at a bar with them, which

515
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: is cool. Yeah, And of course, I say, a man

516
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 1: who cares about his mother makes a wonderful husband. This

517
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: is when I really start with the husband's stuff. Okay,

518
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 1: next season. Oh my god, It's literally all I talk

519
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 1: about for a very long time, and this is the

520
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 1: seed of it. This episode I had some flashbacks of that.

521
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: I mean, because I don't personally share this with Charlotte, right,

522
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 1: So I had to do some acting.

523
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 2: All right, Well, then you are fantastic because it's a

524
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 2: big part of her.

525
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Speaker 1: I know, I had to do so many substitutions and things.

526
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Speaker 1: But also I'd grown up in the South surrounded by this,

527
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: you know, surrounded by this culturally. Right, thank you, thank

528
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: you so much. Sometimes not yet. It wasn't that hard

529
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: this time, but later on when I give it those

530
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 1: long speeches that would be like a whole page. Yeah,

531
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Speaker 1: I mean, just like Baba about getting married. Oh wow,

532
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 1: I would dread those days. Oh wow. I'd just be like,

533
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: can I do it? How am I going to make

534
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 1: it interesting? What am I going to do? How? What

535
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 1: am I going to plug in on that day?

536
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 3: That's got to make it feel for so many people.

537
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 1: I had to just go make it it was. I

538
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 1: think the thing that was hard for me was the didacticness,

539
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,199
Speaker 1: or however I should say that word of it, Like

540
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 1: the very laser focus of Charlotte, which I love that

541
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,360
Speaker 1: about her, that she was that way, and I love

542
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: what happened, which was that it didn't look how she

543
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 1: thought it would. It didn't pan out, thank god, right,

544
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: and she got the pie in the face in many

545
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: different ways and all of that, Thank God. It's hard

546
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 1: to play a character like that, you know, you really

547
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: have to focus on how to make it believable and

548
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: grounded in some way. But anyway, we're not quite there yet.

549
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 1: Now I'm just like, well, he'd make a great husband.

550
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: And then I end up going to a psychic to

551
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,120
Speaker 1: try to get someone to tell me that I will

552
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: in fact get what I want, which no one does,

553
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: but I love it. It's all good. So we're there. Oh, oh,

554
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 1: have you ever been to a psychic? Oh? Yeah, oh

555
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 1: you have, have you not?

556
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 2: I haven't been to a terror cart. No, I've never

557
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 2: been to a psychic. Really. Oh, I don't know if

558
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 2: I would want to know.

559
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: They don't really tell you really. Okay. One time I

560
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 1: went to the Apple store in Santa Monica. Have you

561
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: ever been to that one? Of course? Oh, it's way busy, right,

562
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:44,679
Speaker 1: And this is one of those days where I had

563
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: an appointment, but I mean it was wall the wall

564
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: people pre COVID, and like there was a girl there

565
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 1: with a basket with a cat in it. Like it

566
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 1: was so lah they run her cat tackle, right, it

567
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: was bizarre, not at least or anything in a basket.

568
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: So I'm like, wow, it's like a shoe. So I'm

569
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: sitting waiting for my appointment and there's this woman across

570
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: from me and she's got some tarot cards out. She

571
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: looks at me. I'm like, oh god. She goes, I'm

572
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: going to do your cards and I'm like, okay, she doesn't.

573
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 1: It was very positive, but I mean, what a random

574
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: la thing. Right, You're at the Apple store waiting and

575
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: I don't think she recognized me. I could be wrong.

576
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 1: I don't know. She didn't say anything, but like it

577
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 1: was very I remember it being like I feel like, okay, okay, okay,

578
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: so good, it's good. We're okay, you know what I mean. Like, yeah,

579
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: he was a positive thing. But lady at at the

580
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: Apple store, I don't know, but that was positive. So

581
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: whatever had happened between those probably twenty years, yes, because

582
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: one was in my twenties. One I was probably in

583
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: my forties maybe my fifties. I don't have no idea,

584
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 1: but you know, so I'm open to that stuff, but

585
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: I wouldn't hang my hat on it, you know what

586
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

587
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 3: I don't know the only time that that's happened to

588
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 3: me sort of in that way is I was going

589
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 3: into Michael's because I live in Michaels basically I love I.

590
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 2: Love a crafting.

591
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And I was walking in and this girl

592
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 3: stop me and she goes, hey, You're you're gonna find

593
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 3: the one soon and you're gonna get married. And I

594
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 3: was like, oh my god. And then my husband got

595
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 3: out of the car and I was like, I'm going

596
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 3: to find the one soon. I don't know if it's

597
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's you, but I'm getting married.

598
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 1: That's really excellent. That's really really good. I mean, that's

599
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 1: really good.

600
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 3: And it kept my husband on his toes because one

601
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 3: could have been somewhere. And it's funny that you say that,

602
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 3: because there is a conversation in this episode about the one.

603
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 3: Carrie really desperately wants Big to.

604
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: Tell her that she's right the one, and this carries

605
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: through for literally our entire show and movies. So what

606
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: do you think of that?

607
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 2: Well, it's funny because when I stopped.

608
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: The episode, it flipped to a.

609
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 3: Scene, you know how like an auto plays a scene

610
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 3: from the future, and it was it was him, maybe

611
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 3: an engagement party to the new girl.

612
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.

613
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 3: And she says, can you tell me why it wasn't me?

614
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 3: And I think she's asking too many questions because I

615
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 3: think you know the answer.

616
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: What is the answer?

617
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 3: I don't know the answer, but I think Carrie, no,

618
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 3: But I think you know, maybe not why you aren't

619
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 3: the one. But I think you can tell when someone's

620
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 3: one foot in and one foot out, which is to

621
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 3: me what Big was for so long.

622
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: I guess you're right. But then if you really want

623
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: to talk about was she the one? She is the one.

624
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: Whether he could be with that or not be with

625
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: that would be see. But this is why I did

626
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: never think about him.

627
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 3: It is so hard for me because I'm such a

628
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 3: fan of the show, so I feel like, yes, she

629
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 3: ended up being his one, Yes, but I don't know

630
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 3: if he was nut He's enough for anyone?

631
00:29:59,040 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 2: Does that make sense?

632
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: You're saying that he shouldn't have been her one? You

633
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: can really? Can you control this?

634
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 3: No? You can't.

635
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: Then do you believe in the one? Is my question?

636
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: I do you do?

637
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 3: I think you can have the one more than once,

638
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 3: though I think the one as a number is wrong.

639
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: Got it, got it, got it, got it?

640
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 3: But I feel like there is the one in this

641
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 3: period of time, Yes, got it? You have that in

642
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 3: your in your period of time, in your life, there's

643
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 3: the one, and then there can be another one.

644
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: Good because I just definitely feel that. I feel like

645
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: there's different people that bring different things to you, you know,

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Speaker 1: and it might be about the time of course your life,

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Speaker 1: or it might be about what you need at that point,

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Speaker 1: or it might be about what you're ready for at

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Speaker 1: that point.

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Speaker 3: Because people's partners can pass away and then they can

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Speaker 3: find love again. So obviously that has to mean that

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Speaker 3: there's more than one person.

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Speaker 1: I just don't.

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Speaker 2: I didn't want Big to be the.

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Speaker 1: One for Carrie's getting it, got it, got it. But

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Speaker 1: you also weren't teammate in I wasn't.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if she's found the guy.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, that's good, that's good for our new season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah again, just like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. And the thing that I love about Carrie

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Speaker 1: is that even though she definitely at this point back

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Speaker 1: in first season, she does have this need to be

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Speaker 1: chosen by by Big, Yes, and I think the reason

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Speaker 1: that she seems to have the need to be chosen

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Speaker 1: by Big though, I would love to hear Sir Jessica's

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Speaker 1: thoughts on this, because I never we never talked about it.

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Speaker 1: I mean this stuff, you know what I mean? Like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean because also it's fictional, right, but you know,

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Speaker 1: like you're just in it, trying to do it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but like you know, there's an episode early on where

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Speaker 1: Justin Threw plays this writer who's kind of awful. All

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Speaker 1: them are kind of awful, right, but like she just

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Speaker 1: toys with them. She just like, yeah, like little kittens

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Speaker 1: or whatever. She's like always cute. Yeah, you know, she

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Speaker 1: just flicks them away, DoD I mean Big for whatever reason,

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Speaker 1: because yes, yes, definitely yes. So so to me that

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Speaker 1: is interesting and I do feel like it does seem

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Speaker 1: true in life that sometimes we chase what is unobtainable,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's true for men and women, not

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Speaker 1: just for women.

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Speaker 3: I also think the great loves of all of the characters'

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Speaker 3: lives of each other, right, Like, isn't that sort of

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Speaker 3: the story?

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Speaker 1: I do think. I mean, they have that great scene

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Speaker 1: later on where I say, couldn't we all just be

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Speaker 1: each other's soulmates? And I do think that that's I

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Speaker 1: feel like that absolutely true. But I also feel it's

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Speaker 1: also this thing that Michael Patrick talks about, which is

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Speaker 1: your own relationship with yourself, like that you wouldn't need

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Speaker 1: someone else to say I choose you. Yes, yes, I agree, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that that's the ultimate The ultimate relationship is your

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Speaker 1: relationship of course, which obviously this is the very very

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Speaker 1: beginnings of our characters, right, and so we're not that evolved.

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Speaker 2: Into it happened, right.

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Speaker 1: But it's super interesting to watch her in this because

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Speaker 1: so she we're gonna rewatch more. It's funny to talk

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Speaker 1: about the big topics, right, That's why I did the

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Speaker 1: podcast talk.

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Speaker 3: About the polarized by Big and Carrie as I am,

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Speaker 3: yes they are, okay, Yeah, so this is very I

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Speaker 3: released this trailer and people were like team Maiden, and

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Speaker 3: then other people were like, get better work out with it.

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Speaker 1: And then other people were like not more Aidan, and

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Speaker 1: then other people were like, we're still mad at what

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Speaker 1: you did to Big. I mean people still have a

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Speaker 1: lot of feelings. Yes, all right, So we are gonna

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Speaker 1: make another podcast of Camilla and I recapping Oh come

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Speaker 1: on ye Faithful this season one finale, so checkw I

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Speaker 1: can later this week. Hi everybody,