WEBVTT - Pettifoggery Sums It Up.  Tom McClintock talks to Armstrong & Getty

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<v Speaker 1>When you're ready to ride Metro, we want you to

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<v Speaker 1>com slash doing our part. If we had had confidence

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<v Speaker 1>that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we

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<v Speaker 1>would have said so. We did, not, however, make a

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<v Speaker 1>determination as to whether the president did commit a crime.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So there we are, and that was the

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<v Speaker 1>that's the conversation point all day long yesterday and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>for the next several months. If they go forward with impeachment,

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<v Speaker 1>and if they do go and perform with impeachment, this

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<v Speaker 1>man will be involved. Indeed, Congressman Tom mc clintock represents

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth District of California and joins US. Now he

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<v Speaker 1>has accused Robert Mueller of pedofog y. Good lord, now

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<v Speaker 1>that's an accusation, Tom, going back to your old timey accusations.

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<v Speaker 1>There huh, Well, google it and you'll find that that

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<v Speaker 1>that it is a word that perfectly fits Robert Mueller

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<v Speaker 1>of a pedofogers, a lawyer whose methods are petty, underhanded,

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<v Speaker 1>or disreputable, and one who's given to quibbling over trifles.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is Robert Mueller to a t. So why

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<v Speaker 1>don't we start with the clip we just played. I

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<v Speaker 1>found it curious and perhaps I misunderstand his role in

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<v Speaker 1>what the statute says, but that somebody would say we

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<v Speaker 1>were not able to clear him of a crime. Prosecutors

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<v Speaker 1>don't exonerate people. Prosecutors don't clear you of a crime.

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<v Speaker 1>You are already cleared of a crime. That's the presumption

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<v Speaker 1>of innocence. He even mentioned that in his statement. Then

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<v Speaker 1>he went right around and contradicted himself. A prosecutor's role

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<v Speaker 1>is to determine if a case can be made for prosecution.

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<v Speaker 1>We gave that man twenty five million dollars and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two months to make a case for that the president

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<v Speaker 1>colluded with the Russians. That was the great lie we've

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<v Speaker 1>been force fed for two and a half years now,

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<v Speaker 1>or or to to make the case that he could

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<v Speaker 1>be prosecuted for obstruction of of an investigation that discovered

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<v Speaker 1>no crime. Uh, and he could not make that case.

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<v Speaker 1>He did not make that case. And now he wants

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<v Speaker 1>to have his cake and eat it too. And and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hiding behind this guideline that a sitting president

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<v Speaker 1>cannot be uh indicted, Well that is Horseman, or any

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<v Speaker 1>president can be indicted after he leaves office. It was

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<v Speaker 1>Mueller's responsibility to make that case if he could, and

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't because he couldn't. Do you think the speaker

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<v Speaker 1>of your House of Representatives is going to move forward

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<v Speaker 1>with impeachment proceedings or they've been planning that from day one?

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, Also, here's another thing you can google. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw the first calls for impeachment of Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>the week after the election. That was two months before

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<v Speaker 1>he was sworn in. They were already talking about impeaching him.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, this has been the game plan from before

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<v Speaker 1>day one. Yeah. But I don't think it's Nancy Pelosi's

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<v Speaker 1>game plan, Tom. I mean, she knows it's political suicide.

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<v Speaker 1>Am I wrong on that? I think she's being pushed

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<v Speaker 1>by her her conference. And you know, I also really

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if that's her true position of I think that

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<v Speaker 1>that is her public position. She she wants to be

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<v Speaker 1>dragged into an impeachment of not leading into an impeachment.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of interesting because Newton was c greg Speaker

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<v Speaker 1>of the House at the time of the Clinton impeachment,

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<v Speaker 1>was seen as leading it and was was proud to

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<v Speaker 1>lead it, and UH and most pundits seemed to feel

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<v Speaker 1>like that didn't work out politically for Republicans. So you

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<v Speaker 1>think Nancy wants to be seen as being drug into it.

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<v Speaker 1>I I can't read minds. I I certainly wouldn't read

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<v Speaker 1>her mind if I could read mind. But I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you this, the other shoes about to drop in this

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<v Speaker 1>and that if she is genuinely hesitant, UH, it may

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<v Speaker 1>be because she knows what is coming next. What's coming

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<v Speaker 1>next is the Inspector General's report over the origins of

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<v Speaker 1>this phony Steel Dothier that gave rise to this entire

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<v Speaker 1>monstrous lie that the president was a trader colluding with

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<v Speaker 1>a hostile foreign government of a special Council has already

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<v Speaker 1>been appointed and is investigating the misconduct of the highest

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<v Speaker 1>ranking officers in our intelligence agencies UH, in the FBI

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<v Speaker 1>and the Justice Department UH and the Senate Judiciary Committee,

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<v Speaker 1>which is headed by Lindsey Graham, is now looking at

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<v Speaker 1>this very carefully. So my guess is that maybe they're

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<v Speaker 1>looking down the road a little ways and realizing this

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<v Speaker 1>thing could go south on us very quickly, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think it will. Congressman Tom McClintock was one of only

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<v Speaker 1>two perfect ratings by citizens against Government Waste, by the

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<v Speaker 1>way for fighting wasteful government spending. That's why he's long

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<v Speaker 1>been a friend of the Armstrong and Getty show. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>you made it clear you don't read minds. Maybe your

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<v Speaker 1>psychic he can predict the future. Do you think the

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<v Speaker 1>the the Molar speech yesterday will change the polls about

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<v Speaker 1>how Americans feel about impeachment at all, because currently it's

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<v Speaker 1>not even close. Most people don't want to, including Democrats. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>The polls have been very stable over this for a

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<v Speaker 1>very long period of time, so including on the release

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<v Speaker 1>of the Dacton report. Yeah, I mean, I I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't tell the future, but I can I can

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<v Speaker 1>tell the past, and and the past is that the

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<v Speaker 1>poll has been very stable on this. You know, Trump

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<v Speaker 1>is a you know, let's face it, as a doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>exactly have the sunny disposition of Ronald Reagan and whether

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<v Speaker 1>you either love him or you hate him, and and

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<v Speaker 1>it appears to be that's a very very stable and

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<v Speaker 1>enduring emotion, no kidding, very good point or or as

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<v Speaker 1>is increasingly well, not increasingly, but very popular among many

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<v Speaker 1>of our listeners and many people around the country. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a jerk, but he's our jerk. I told people

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<v Speaker 1>during the campaign. Look, it wasn't my first choice, wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>my second choice. But I can share as hell tell

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<v Speaker 1>the difference between a fire and a fireman. And if

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<v Speaker 1>a fireman is trying to save my house from burning down,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care if he's a bit of a jerk

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<v Speaker 1>at home. Um, we we've known you for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>We know you're a fan of history, Mike. I have

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<v Speaker 1>some concern with how casually everybody calls everybody else a

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<v Speaker 1>liar or a traitor or that sort of thing. On

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<v Speaker 1>on both sides. It's not just become commonplace for for

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<v Speaker 1>some of you politicians to call your colleagues liars. That

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<v Speaker 1>didn't used to happen. Ever, Are you worried about that? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it ever is a long time. It did in my

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<v Speaker 1>in my modern in my modern life don't know nor

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<v Speaker 1>in mind of I. I agree with you on that

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<v Speaker 1>of politics has become increasingly uncivil, but it's not the

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<v Speaker 1>first time time it's become increasingly uncivil. We saw that

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<v Speaker 1>and lead up to the Civil War. Um Uh when

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<v Speaker 1>when when you have to prince predict civil war breaking

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<v Speaker 1>news on? No, No, I don't think it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>get to that. But I do think that there's a

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<v Speaker 1>similar dynamic taking place, and that is of in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the mid nineteenth century, there were two principles that

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<v Speaker 1>simply could not be reconciled, freedom and slavery. That was

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<v Speaker 1>the crux of Lincoln's House Divided speech. He says, Look,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't continue to be divided. These two principles cannot

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<v Speaker 1>co exist forever. One had we have to become all

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<v Speaker 1>one thing or all the other. Uh and uh, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that wheels come full circle and now we've got

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<v Speaker 1>two incompatible polar opposites, freedom and socialism. They cannot co

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<v Speaker 1>exist forever. We have to become all one thing or

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<v Speaker 1>all the other. Fact fact, you know, slavery and socialism

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<v Speaker 1>basically have their roots in the same principle. And as

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<v Speaker 1>as as as Lincoln put it. You work in toil

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<v Speaker 1>and bread and I will eat it. Wow. Wow, well

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<v Speaker 1>said I think the uh, the coexistence of the two

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<v Speaker 1>things when you're talking about socialism, can last longer, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're more easily reversed. The march towards either

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<v Speaker 1>slave or free was just inexorable. That's why I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it's going to be as severe a test of

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<v Speaker 1>our country as we've been through in the past. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's the other thing is we've been through a lot

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<v Speaker 1>worse times than these in the past. We've gotten through them.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think there are a substantial number of closet

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<v Speaker 1>yes on impeachment Democrats or do you think it's mostly

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<v Speaker 1>restricted to the infamous thirty eight people are discussing? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I again, I'm stepping across the line now and trying

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<v Speaker 1>to see a future I can't see. But my guess

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<v Speaker 1>is if it came to a vote, it be pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much a party line vote. Wow and yeah, as a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of things are. Congress from Tom McClintock represents the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth District of California. Thomas, always great to get together.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do it again soon, my pleasure. Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>You got it well, it's an interesting about the wholes

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<v Speaker 1>gotta be all one thing or another. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>that is true. We got that and that's where we

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<v Speaker 1>are and that is the big break, and that's why

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<v Speaker 1>we have so much disagreement. You you like big government

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<v Speaker 1>taken over run and everything, and the other crowd doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Socialism versus not. And yeah, I don't think I I

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<v Speaker 1>just disagree with Tom. I don't think it's an all

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<v Speaker 1>or nothing proposition. That's a matter of degrees. I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you who I think is gonna win that battle. Oh yeah,

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