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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Duke is the

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Speaker 1: The answer is, that's why you need Duke to win.

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Speaker 1: be This is simple. I hate Duke. You hate Duke.

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Speaker 1: Everybody hates do Let's just all stand in unison and say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we hate Duke. There's some people out there that love Duke,

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Speaker 1: and that's why this is important. Because everybody has an

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Speaker 1: this right now where I while I wear a UNLV hoodie.

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Speaker 1: Of course I hate Duke. They ruined my childhood. One

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Speaker 1: But the year after that, the final four loss sits

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Speaker 1: villain for so many people, And sometimes you gotta find

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Speaker 1: a way to extend that. Great movies, the great, great,

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Speaker 1: think of those moments in these great movies because of

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Speaker 1: the villain. And that's exactly what college basketball needs, because

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Speaker 1: right now, that that drives opinion, it drives people paying attention,

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Speaker 1: and it sets up the next era. No coach k so,

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Speaker 1: who's the face of college basketball? It's a conversation we've

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Speaker 1: had repeatedly. Right now, I would argue, even in college football,

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Speaker 1: there are gonna be real questions about who the face is,

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Speaker 1: who becomes the new villain in college football, we pay

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Speaker 1: attention to that stuff. People hate watch all the time,

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Speaker 1: at who won Connecticut, they're a defending champion and y'all

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Speaker 1: don't care. You just don't. We're watching maybe one of

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Speaker 1: the most dominant two year runs we've ever seen in

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Speaker 1: it doesn't resonate to that level. It just isn't yet

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Speaker 1: You won't tell your grandkids off. NC State won a

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Speaker 1: And what one team winning would change the conversation for

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Speaker 1: the next five years. No, coach k means you got

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Speaker 1: to set up the next chapter. This is the sequel.

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Speaker 1: the whole court storming issue. People wanted to say what

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Speaker 1: it's Philipowski. And in order to have that continual ability

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Speaker 1: And that's exactly the opportunity that's there for Duke. This

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Speaker 1: is what we need. Well, college basketball needs. What men's

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Speaker 1: college basketball, let me be clear, needs realistically, probably a

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Speaker 1: It's hard for me to say. Heck, I'm doing all

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Speaker 1: this work with Yahoo right now, with Danny Green, and

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Speaker 1: just watching Danny Green's skin crawl every time Duke wins.

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Speaker 1: and it just reminded me, man, this is what college

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Speaker 1: basketball needs. Am I wrong?

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Speaker 2: No, You're one hundred percent right, because what other storyline

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Speaker 2: We could talk about Purdue and the fact that they

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Speaker 2: this is their redemption tour. But to your point, from

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Speaker 2: Unless you're a serious college basketball fan, you probably don't

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Speaker 2: but because he's not talking to anybody, you really can't,

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Speaker 2: He's not Carmelo Anthony, you know, so that changes the

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Speaker 2: they might not even have any household names Philipowski. If

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Speaker 2: only thing I'll fight back with you is in this

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Speaker 2: new era of college basketball, specifically in college basketball, and

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Speaker 3: Let's say they win this weekend and they make it

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Speaker 2: Can we guarantee ourselves that Philipolski's going to stay for

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Speaker 3: Or is it all going to turn over and one of.

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Speaker 2: These guys is going to get a giant nil deal

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Speaker 3: I guess that would be the greatest fear.

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Speaker 2: If this is going to be something that's going to

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Speaker 2: It has to be a blue blood program like Duke

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Speaker 1: And that's why a championship would be so incredibly important

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Speaker 1: John Shire is the head coach of Duke. Now, I mean,

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Speaker 1: we all know Coach K's gone, but how many people

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Speaker 1: the Q reading on John Shire is basically non existent.

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Speaker 1: He's got to win these championships. And to your point

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Speaker 1: He is committed to Duke. So there is this moment

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Speaker 1: of if you're John Shire, your sales pitch is, hey,

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Speaker 1: That just feeds a whole another era, like we need this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, North Carolina can't afford to have the loss that

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Speaker 3: And look and by the way, they get poached by.

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Speaker 2: We don't have the quote unquote traditional Cinderella from you know,

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Speaker 1: But you have.

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Speaker 1: I like lamb to the slaughter. That's it feels very

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Speaker 1: Fellas On Fox Sports Radio, I learn how to speak

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Speaker 1: this morning. I love your point about what we have

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Speaker 1: and I don't want to take anything away from that

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Speaker 1: Edy is doing things that even though we can sit

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Speaker 2: point in time, we still haven't had a lot of

431
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Speaker 2: buzzer beaters. But because to your point, we're kind of

432
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,439
Speaker 2: weeding out the also rans and now we have the

433
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Speaker 2: best of the best coming together.

434
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 3: The quality of play is better, the quality of talent.

435
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 2: Is a little bit better, and we're getting more compelling

436
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,520
Speaker 2: and competitive matchups. Say, for whoever Ukon's playing, and they're

437
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 2: probably gonna end up running over whoever they play.

438
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Speaker 3: The rest of this tournament. I'm kind of convinced of that.

439
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,800
Speaker 2: But independent of that, I think we've had some competitive

440
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Speaker 2: games this past weekend, and I think we're it's setting

441
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Speaker 2: itself up to be a pretty competitive Elite eight and

442
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Speaker 2: final four this weekend, coming up to or next weekend.

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Speaker 1: I should say, I hear you on the opening weekend

444
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Speaker 1: and the quantity. But here's the thing, Like aw's a

445
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Speaker 1: fat kid growing up. I love cake. I love like.

446
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Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't matter what kind of kick you

447
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Speaker 1: put in front of me.

448
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 2: I was gonna sell lemon chocolate, you know, angel food,

449
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,200
Speaker 2: devil food, what are you looking at?

450
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Speaker 1: D All of the above gotcha in fact, And I

451
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Speaker 1: love icing, Like some years for my birthday, I just

452
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Speaker 1: get myself a huge tub of cream cheese icing, and

453
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Speaker 1: I eat the whole thing right like I could eat.

454
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Speaker 1: If you told me I could only eat one thing

455
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Speaker 1: for the rest of my life, every day, all day,

456
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Speaker 1: it would be cake. And I don't really whichever version

457
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 1: that everybody gives me is fine, and I could eat

458
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 1: it all day, every day and have no hesitation. So

459
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Speaker 1: I love cake. And because I love cake, I am

460
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Speaker 1: all in on a bad buffet. Like if I'm at

461
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Speaker 1: a casino. Like when I was touring in country music,

462
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Speaker 1: if we hit there was one year on tour, I decided,

463
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Speaker 1: and I was in good shape at this point, I

464
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Speaker 1: decided I was going to try the cake at every

465
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Speaker 1: casino buffet we played Durut through the course of the

466
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Speaker 1: whole year. You play a lot of casinos in country music,

467
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Speaker 1: a lot like Indian Reservation casino. Yeah. Right, So you're

468
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Speaker 1: in all these places, and I'd walk up to the

469
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Speaker 1: table for after my meal with like six pieces of cake,

470
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Speaker 1: and I'd eat all six before my show, right, And

471
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Speaker 1: so like, I love cake so much that I didn't

472
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Speaker 1: care that it was bad cake, because bad cake is

473
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 1: still better than no cake. Right, That's what you're saying

474
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Speaker 1: about college basketball and the opening. Like I hear you.

475
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Speaker 1: I just feel like we weren't getting great. Now we're

476
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Speaker 1: at least walking into the buffet and we're realizing like okay, no, no, no, no,

477
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Speaker 1: Like this this pastry chef, it's like bringing it. Like

478
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Speaker 1: sure we might not be at the nicest casino, but

479
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Speaker 1: this this pastry chef is really bringing the cake. Like

480
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Speaker 1: it's you know, I'm analyzing the cake. I'm reading the

481
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Speaker 1: cake like I'm all in on the cake FIGI.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

483
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Speaker 2: So basically went from the sizzler to like to the

484
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Speaker 2: top of the line is what we're talking about. As

485
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Speaker 2: far as buffets go, we went to.

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Speaker 1: Like a Golden Corral. Okay, unless Golden Crawl is a sponsor,

487
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Speaker 1: in which case they are Elite Cake Amazing gold Carl.

488
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Speaker 3: They are a sponsor of Premiere Radio Networks.

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Speaker 1: We love that we went from Golden Corral to like

490
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Speaker 1: you know that. And there's like a Caesar's buffet in Vegas,

491
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Speaker 1: at like one of the nice ones. It's like one

492
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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty bucks for a buffet, And every time

493
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Speaker 1: I ever see that, I'm like, you got to be

494
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Speaker 1: out of here. You know what. Mind if you think

495
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna pay one hundred and fifty bucks for one

496
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Speaker 1: person to sit at a buffet, well just you.

497
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Speaker 2: Know, just just go sit in front of a slot

498
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Speaker 2: machine for about twenty seven straight hours. I'll give you

499
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Speaker 2: a buffet for free. That's that's how you hustle them

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Speaker 2: out of that one.

501
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Speaker 1: I think that I end up losing more than one

502
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Speaker 1: hundred and.

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Speaker 3: Fifty Yeah, that's the point.

504
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Speaker 1: Well that's now we're now we're into one of those

505
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Speaker 1: spots where like we're into that spot where it's not

506
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Speaker 1: really a buffet, it's just a beautiful restaurant with a

507
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Speaker 1: great dessert menu. You know, like I've never when I'm

508
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Speaker 1: at a nice dinner and the waiter walks up and says,

509
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 1: server walks up, whatever says. So, you know, would you

510
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Speaker 1: like to see the dessert menu? If I'm at a

511
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Speaker 1: place that costs an uncomfortable amount, which for me is

512
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Speaker 1: like more than six bucks, like I'm cheap. If I'm

513
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Speaker 1: in a place where they walk up and ask do

514
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Speaker 1: I want to see the dessert menu, the answer is

515
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 1: always yes, right, because like there's just if I'm at

516
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Speaker 1: a nice dinner, I don't need the appetizer, I don't

517
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: need the sides, Like you can leave me with all that,

518
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Speaker 1: like just give me a slab of meat and then

519
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Speaker 1: like a piece of cake at the end. That's always

520
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,439
Speaker 1: slab a meat piece of cake. Right, So we're at

521
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Speaker 1: that spot where I feel like it's a slab of

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Speaker 1: meat and a piece of We're at a steakhouse slab

523
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Speaker 1: a meat piece of cake.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So if duke, let's say, for whatever reason, gets

525
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Speaker 2: knocked out and doesn't necessarily make a deep run into

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Speaker 2: this tournament, and Duke is the the prime piece of

527
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Speaker 2: cake that you're talking about. What's the second best piece

528
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Speaker 2: of cake here on the menu for you?

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Speaker 1: That is such a bit Well it's you caught, right,

530
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Speaker 1: But somebody explained this to me and actually of just

531
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Speaker 1: what we're gonna because this is a deep and meaningful

532
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Speaker 1: conversation about cake at point. To this point that we're having,

533
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Speaker 1: we're going to try and figure out why Yukon isn't

534
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Speaker 1: doing it for everybody. But first, Figgi, I know you

535
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: got to hit us with some trending.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so so we're talking NCAA tournament. We'll go to

537
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Speaker 2: the tournament games from Friday night with Tennessee advancing to

538
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Speaker 2: the Elite eight. They knocked off Creighton eighty two to

539
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Speaker 2: seventy five. They will face top seed at Purdue on

540
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Speaker 2: Sunday after the boiler Makers be Gonzaga eighty to sixty eight,

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Speaker 2: an all acc Elite eight matchup as well. In the

542
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Speaker 2: South Region, Duke out lasting top seed at Houston, eleven

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Speaker 2: seed at North Carolina State, upsetting Marquette, who was the

544
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Speaker 2: two seed on the women's side. Texas dominated Gonzaga, South

545
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Speaker 2: Carolina surviving a scare against Indiana, a ten point victory

546
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Speaker 2: from North Carolina State over Stanford, Oregon State and Notre

547
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Speaker 2: Dame with victories as well. I should say Oregon State

548
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Speaker 2: upsetting Notre Dame on the women's side, and the NBA

549
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Speaker 2: or the WNBA. Luckily we got the women's basketball. In

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Speaker 2: my mind, there fits no NBA action quite Yeah, we're

551
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Speaker 2: in the NBA, still getting ready for the playoff run.

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Speaker 2: Here in a couple of weeks, Yama forty points, twenty rebounds,

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Speaker 2: and the Spurs overtime victory over the Knicks, who got

554
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Speaker 2: sixty one points from Jalen Brunson in a losing effort.

555
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Speaker 2: Dalla's a big victory over the Kings one o seven

556
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Speaker 2: to one oh three. You had wins from Minnesota, Cleveland

557
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Speaker 2: and the Pacers, who avenged their loss to the Lakers

558
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Speaker 2: earlier this week.

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Speaker 3: They will beat LA one oh nine to ninety. Back

560
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Speaker 3: to the fellas.

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Speaker 1: All right, so we're coming at you live obviously hanging out.

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Speaker 1: He's Kevin Figures. I'm Jason fitz It's a Fox Sports

563
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Speaker 1: Saturday in the ti raq dot Com studios. Love you

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Speaker 1: guys interacting on Twitter, by the way, on x I'm

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Speaker 1: at Jason Fitz and Pops. It couldn't disagree with you guys. More.

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Speaker 1: It must be a West Coast thing. This tournament has

567
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Speaker 1: been great, and Yukon is the villain first and foremost. Bob,

568
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Speaker 1: thanks for responding. I I even though I'm from Vegas

569
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Speaker 1: that I love the West Coast. I live on the

570
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Speaker 1: East Coast and so I see the I mean I

571
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Speaker 1: split time between Nashville and Connecticut, so I see the

572
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Speaker 1: Yukon thing up close and personal. So I just to me,

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Speaker 1: Connecticut doesn't move the nationally. And this is brings to

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Speaker 1: right to what I wanted to talk about here, because

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Speaker 1: we're seeing one of the most dominant runs we've ever

576
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Speaker 1: seen in tournament history. We're seeing a team that in

577
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Speaker 1: one half of basketball can take a close game and

578
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 1: make it a debacle. We're seeing a team that lost

579
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Speaker 1: three players to the NBA last year and has restocked

580
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Speaker 1: with absolutely no issue. A fiery head coach that you

581
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Speaker 1: know is out there in front of the mic saying

582
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Speaker 1: everything the right and finding manufacturing like great coaches and

583
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Speaker 1: players do. Manufacturing all sorts of different reasons that they're

584
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: being disrespected and all of these different things like we're

585
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: seeing greatness from Yukon. I just I would argue that

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00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: the casual basketball fan, and that's that's championships and moving

587
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: the needle are about casuals, right, Like, So if you

588
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: become Golden State and you win a bunch and everybody

589
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: falls in love with Steph Curry and casuals start tracking that,

590
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: then you are in the spot where you are. You're

591
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 1: in like a little sweet spot, little golden moment. Right

592
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: if you turn around and you look at the NFL,

593
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: Like everybody can fall in love with Mahomes and eventually

594
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: that teeter totter sort of swings the other way and

595
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 1: people will turn them into a villain. That's what everybody

596
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: did with Tom Brady. Like, it's what we do when

597
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: we see greatness, Like usually it becomes something that casuals

598
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: flock to, and then everybody has to make a decision

599
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: hero or villain. I don't think the casual college basketball

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Speaker 1: fan that's you know, just sort of watches every once

601
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: in a while, is flocking to turn on the TV

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Speaker 1: when Yukon plays if they're living in Montana, Like, I

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Speaker 1: just I don't.

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Speaker 2: Feel that usually a villain kind of has a face

605
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Speaker 2: to it. And Yukon doesn't like most people, as dominant

606
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Speaker 2: as they've been over the last couple of years. I

607
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 2: don't know if the casual fan, or even really just

608
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Speaker 2: a solid standard college basketball fan, can name four Yukon

609
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 2: basketball players like we can name Klingen and Caraban and

610
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 2: Tristan Newton who has been great in camp, Spencer who

611
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: can shoot the lights out. But none of those guys

612
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 2: necessarily hateful, legacy type players. You know, that's the that's

613
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: kind of the issue when you talk about they're not

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Speaker 2: a hateable brand as good as they've been over the

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Speaker 2: last well, I guess what you say, thirty years, Yukon

616
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 2: has really been, you know, great, going back to Jim

617
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 2: Calhoun's long run there and all the success they had

618
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: one of a few national championships, but.

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Speaker 3: They really haven't.

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Speaker 2: They're not a hated brand like Duke is, even to

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Speaker 2: a certain degree as North Carolina.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's the issue. They're not as.

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Speaker 2: Dominant as they were this year, going thirty four and

624
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 2: three and running people off of the court in the

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Speaker 2: tournament to the tune of a twenty three I believe

626
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Speaker 2: twenty three and a half points is what their margin

627
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Speaker 2: of victory is in the NCAA Tournament.

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Speaker 3: There's not hate against them.

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Speaker 2: You know, there was a face of hate for Lebron

630
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 2: James and the Heatles back in the day. If you

631
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 2: wanted to say there was a face of hate for

632
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 2: the Golden State Warriors, especially after Kevin Durant got there,

633
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: you could particularly say that Tom Brady, you mentioned you

634
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 2: really don't have that with Yukon. There's no you know,

635
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 2: there's no Grayson Allen on this Yukon basketball team. You know,

636
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 2: there's no Christian Latner. That's the thing that's work against

637
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 2: that argument.

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Speaker 1: There's also no fatigue yet, Like sometimes it's just it's

639
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: the fatigue that drives everybody sort of against someone. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know why with Connecticut we're not at the

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Speaker 1: spot where you're celebrated because look, like I said, I mean,

642
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Speaker 1: I split time between Nashville and Connecticut, and my life

643
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Speaker 1: have for the last what six seven years when I

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Speaker 1: was working with ESPN, I moved up there at the time,

645
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Speaker 1: and Connecticut basketball is truly life to that area. Like

646
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Speaker 1: it is stunning that we have conversations about college basketball

647
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: and the health of the sport at times, and then

648
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: all you got to do, like tonight. I guarantee you

649
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: that every bar in Connecticut will be jamm backed to

650
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: the spot you cannot get in because Yukon's men and

651
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: women are both playing tonight. Right, So you're going to

652
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,479
Speaker 1: have two basketball programs that absolutely matter to the area.

653
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: The fans in the area are loyal. The fans in

654
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Speaker 1: the area are passionate. The fans in the area care

655
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Speaker 1: at a level that you would just not expect. Like

656
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: when I say Yukon basketball, I don't think most people

657
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: walking around in non college basketball markets realized how important

658
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: it is to the area. It just hasn't translated, you know,

659
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: to go back to use your what we were talking

660
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: about before with cake, Like there's one, there's one cake,

661
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: Del Fresco's.

662
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 3: It's a chain, Del Frescoes.

663
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,479
Speaker 1: I love you. Del Frescoes has lemon cake and they

664
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Speaker 1: took it off the menu for a while, and they

665
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: took it off the menu, and I realized how much

666
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: I missed it, you know. So I was at the

667
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: National Championship game College football covered it and there was

668
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: the Del Frescoes across the street. I went across the street,

669
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Speaker 1: sat down, I ordered my big old slab of Victory meat.

670
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: So you know, you made it through a big week.

671
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: Let's get the meat sweats going. And at the end,

672
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: they said, you want to see the dessert menu, and

673
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: of course, as we've established, I said yes, because I'm

674
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: in a nice place, right and I want to see

675
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: the dessert menu. And the guy looks at it and

676
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: I just I looked at him and I said, man,

677
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: I I I just missed the lemon cake. And he's like, oh,

678
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: we still have it, it's just not on the menu.

679
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: That's why I think Connecticut is right now, like yeah,

680
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: why do you have it and not have it on

681
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: the menu.

682
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 3: By the way, Like that's ridiculous.

683
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: You're just trying not to make money.

684
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 2: You're holding out. They're trying to save it for the staff.

685
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: That's what it is. That's trying to hoard all the

686
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 2: goods for themselves.

687
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Speaker 1: I don't blame moment. And let me tell you, like

688
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: I got that piece of cake and the guy, I

689
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: felt a little assaulted, got the piece of cake. Guy

690
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: brought out it to go box. I'm not going to

691
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: need that to go box, like cause it's a large

692
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: you know, steakhouses do everything larger with that, Like it

693
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: was a large slice of cake. He brought the little

694
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Speaker 1: to go box with it, refilled my drink. He came

695
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: back like five minutes later. Plate was clean, I mean clean,

696
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: you could lick the thing like it was clean. And

697
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: the bartenders. I was sitting at the bar eating the

698
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: bartender just sort of looks at me and he's like, man,

699
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: I've never seen anybody do that. I was like, well,

700
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: you know what, I like my lemon cake.

701
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 2: Time, buddy, how about that? Damn straight you haven't that's

702
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 2: the husky Like.

703
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: They're still there, they're just not on the menu. So

704
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: like a lot of places aren't thinking about them, and

705
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: then when you actually have them, they're like, Mike, I

706
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: can't believe I turned this whole thing. And I'm wrapping

707
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: up a cake analogy here. But by the time you

708
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: get to the end of the last bite of it,

709
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: you're like, God, I love this. I would eat this

710
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: every day.

711
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 2: But then sid for a lot of people. But and

712
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 2: and by the way, I love pound cake. Pound cakes excellent,

713
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 2: but aren't they kind of like a little boring, bland

714
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 2: pound cake no icing, nothing necessarily exciting, you know, good flavor,

715
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 2: but nothing special to them.

716
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 3: Like if I want to go back to like a

717
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 3: legacy program.

718
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 2: I mentioned the Florida Gators and six and seven went

719
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 2: back to back championships. They had some personality. People hated

720
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 2: Joki Noah hated the guy whether you knew him or not.

721
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 2: He was screaming, he was loud, he was boisterous. He

722
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 2: kind of had the personality that allowed you to be

723
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 2: able to say, you know what, I don't like this, dude.

724
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 3: I want them to lose.

725
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 2: Every single game they kept winning, and that made them

726
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 2: even more hateable. There's kind of just nothing there. And

727
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 2: that's not a bad thing whatsoever. Their workmen like. They

728
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 2: go out there, do their business. They're not flashy. They

729
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 2: win basketball games and they keep pushing. But that personality

730
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 2: winning that way, and I think a certain degree Patrick

731
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 2: Mahomes is like this too, the way he plays his flashy,

732
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 2: but his personality certainly isn't. And so even as much

733
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 2: as the Kansas City chiefs As have won over the

734
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 2: last six seven years, I still don't know if they're

735
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Speaker 2: even in the stratosphere of hateable franchises are actual villains

736
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Speaker 2: of the NFL. I still think they have more people

737
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 2: that love them than despise them. There might be a

738
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 2: little bit of fatigue. But I don't think there's out

739
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 2: and out hate like there was for the New England Patriots.

740
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Speaker 2: I just feel like Yukon just doesn't have enough flash

741
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 2: of them for people to actually feel one way or

742
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Speaker 2: the other. I think people are kind of neutral about him.

743
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right, by the way. And all

744
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: I keep thinking with that Florida team is they're like

745
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: Cadbury Kremegs to stay topical to Easter. Yeah, like people

746
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: either love them or hate them. And here's the other thing,

747
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: Like people can't just let you enjoy him or not

748
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: enjoy him. They got to try and change your mind.

749
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: Like that Florida team was polarizing in that sense because

750
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: it wasn't good enough. That is like, hey man, you

751
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 1: like Cadbury Kremeggs, good on you or in the opposite.

752
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: I've never like, I hate pie, as we've established that

753
00:34:58,680 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: don't like this pie at all.

754
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 3: Well, I don't understand what like.

755
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: But people get so mad at me and I'm like, well, look, realistically,

756
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: you want to go to the buffet with me because

757
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: I ain't taking the pie? You got more pie? All right?

758
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: We'll keep breaking down all the desserts that you could

759
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: possibly need. I don't know, like it's too early in

760
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: the morning to be this hungry and all of a

761
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: sudden I am, obviously, But coming up next on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Saturday Live from the tire rack dot Com Studios,

763
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: we talked earlier about some of the great players in

764
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: this tournament. There's one major problem with all of them

765
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: and what it means for basketball. We'll talk about it

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Speaker 1: next on The Fellas. I'm Fox Sports Radio. You're listening

767
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Welcome back in. We're the

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00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: Fellas Live from the tire rack dot Com Studios. I'm

769
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: Jason fitz hanging out with Kevin Figures. Yeah, you even

770
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: got Mighty Mark the whole crew with this. Gargano's got

771
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: the day off much deserved because we're breaking down everything

772
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 1: that we've seen over the course of the NCAA tournament.

773
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: By the way, got a lot to get into. We

774
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: will get into some football talk on the NFL Draft,

775
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: We'll get into some Major League baseball. But I wanted

776
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: to put a bow on this tournament conversation that we're

777
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: having Figgy, particularly around let's just say the Zach Edy argument.

778
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 1: And I say argument because you know, with the work

779
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 1: I'm doing on the tournament. I've got two co hosts

780
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 1: on much of a Danny Green, who obviously had tremendous

781
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: success playing, and then Kristin Peak, who's a respected NBA

782
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: draft analyst, And every single time per Due plays, I

783
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: feel like I'm sitting in a room watching my friends

784
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: fight for no good reason, and it's all about whether

785
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: there's any pro prospect at all to Zach Edy. And

786
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: it's funny because we've seen more and more of this lately,

787
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: and it's one of the big differences, like how many

788
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: people today are fired up about the NFL draft in

789
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: part because they either watch college football, know enough about

790
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 1: college football, went to YouTube to watch college football. They

791
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: have seen Caleb Williams, They've seen enough of Drake May,

792
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: They've seen enough of JJ McCarthy, the enough of Jaden

793
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: Daniels to get excited. Marvin Harrison Junior. These are all

794
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 1: guys that coming into the league come with a brand

795
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 1: established because of their play in essentially, whether you want

796
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: to call college football its own one A to the NFL,

797
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: whatever it is, they've established some level of brand equity

798
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: that people understand for the minute you walk in the room.

799
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: One of the strangest things is that the pro game

800
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: is so different than the college game when it comes

801
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 1: to college basketball that the best player in college basketball

802
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: for the last two years might not even be an

803
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: NBA prospect. And that's a very real thing. And if

804
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: he is, he's not somebody that's going to make an

805
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: immediate impact in the league. It would take years before

806
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: he's averaging five or six points. Right. So it's just

807
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 1: such a strange part of what we get behind. Because

808
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: I do believe that in college football, with the expansion

809
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: of the playoffs, we're going to see more and more

810
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 1: stars made in the playoffs, and we will hear more

811
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 1: and more going into the draft. Yeah, but playoffs success

812
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 1: means something. In the NCAA tournament success personally means almost

813
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: nothing to whether or not you're going to be a

814
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: good NBA player or even drafted in the NBA.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's been that way for years.

816
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 2: And obviously, what Zach Edie has working against him is

817
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 2: just the style of play. It's a wings game at

818
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 2: this point in time. It's pace, pace in space. Guys

819
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 2: who are able to move quickly, move laterally, defensively, be

820
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 2: able to shoot, all things he does not do.

821
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 3: He clogs up the paint.

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00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 2: He's slow, he's lumbering, not necessarily esthetically pleasing, even with

823
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 2: this offensive moves. He's just taller than everybody else. I

824
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 2: heard one comp earlier this week was basically, he's Boban Maryanovitch.

825
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 2: Boban is the guy who's really, really tall, who's floated

826
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 2: around the league, who actually has a little bit a

827
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 2: decent shooting touch, but because of his size, because he's

828
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 2: so slow, is more or less a gimmick at this

829
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 2: point in time in the league, and not really you know,

830
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 2: a serious player who gets a lot of minutes for meaningful,

831
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 2: you know, championship contending teams.

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00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 3: And to your point, now, look, Drew Timmy to a.

833
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 2: Certain degree, was a phenomenal player for Gonzaga for a

834
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 2: couple of years. And in the same situation, you know,

835
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 2: he came back last year because he dipped his toe

836
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 2: in the water for the NBA and they said, yeah, man,

837
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 2: at best you were a second round pick, if even that.

838
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 2: You know, that's just kind of the nature of the

839
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 2: beast right now. So I do think it's cool that,

840
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 2: you know, a player like that who can be so

841
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 2: dominant will stay in college basketball because you, if you

842
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 2: are a fan of the game, will at least learn

843
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 2: and familiarize yourself with someone who's a real star. He's

844
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 2: a college basketball star, without question, likely going to be

845
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 2: the player of the Year for the second consecutive season.

846
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 3: It's amazing for him to be.

847
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 2: Able to kind of get his shine at this level

848
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 2: when you know it's most likely not going to happen

849
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 2: for him at the professional ranks.

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00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost like the NBA just needs to abandon

851
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: the concept of the draft having any real equity with

852
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: the sport, because realistically, if you're even if you're selected

853
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: late in the first round, it means nothing towards making

854
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: a roster, much like we've seen the w over the

855
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: last few years also, and so you almost have to

856
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: think of all these players in different categories, Like I'm

857
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: looking at a grouping of mock drafts right now for

858
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: the NBA that have Donovan Klingon, who we've talked about

859
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Speaker 1: from Connecticut in the middle of the second round, and

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Speaker 1: some of these don't have Zach ed drafted at all, right, Right,

861
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Speaker 1: And so it's just is to your point, maybe nil

862
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Speaker 1: creates an opportunity where kids can just worry about being

863
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Speaker 1: the best college basketball players they are, and through that

864
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Speaker 1: process we can get more to use the women's game again.

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Speaker 1: More Caitlin more angel more page more. Players like that

866
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Speaker 1: they can turn around and give sort of their brand

867
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Speaker 1: to college basketball and it will grow. That's going to

868
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Speaker 1: be about, in my mind, the only real hope here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll end up helping the sport in the long run.

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Speaker 2: The g leaguing night is going away because they said

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Speaker 2: nil is is forcing a lot of kids to go

872
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Speaker 2: to college because now they can get paid for the name,

873
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 2: image and likeness and don't need to have a low

874
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Speaker 2: cost NBA contract.

875
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Speaker 1: All right, We've got plenty more coming up on the Fellows,

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Speaker 1: on the calendar, make it theirs. Sometimes you gotta read

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Speaker 1: the room, and the question is through opening day of

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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball, did they read the room at all?

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Speaker 1: to get to some NFL Draft talk too. But as

889
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: we break everything down, I can't help but look at

890
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball and say, huh. I'm the first to

891
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: admit I'm not a cee mat and I didn't even

892
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: know what that word meant. And tell Figgy and the

893
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: Cuz sort of educated me that's Baseball was not part

894
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: of my life growing up. It wasn't something I was

895
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: passionate about. It's something that I've learned to cover because

896
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: I talk about sports for a living. But it's not

897
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Speaker 1: something that I run into the streets saying, oh oh

898
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: my god. I don't go to everybody saying it's Opening Day.

899
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: That's not part of who I am. I love going

900
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: to a game in person. I follow the sport for work,

901
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 1: but I don't have that true passion, that blood boiling

902
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: moment from Major League Baseball. I'm the first to admit that.

903
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: So I decided coming into this year, especially knowing that

904
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: the Oakland A's may and we'll see end up moving

905
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: to Vegas, the city I'm from. Also, I spend a

906
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: lot of time in Nashville in my life, a place

907
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: that is fighting for expansion. You know, I really want

908
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: to invest in Major League Baseball. I want to become

909
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: passionate about the sport. So Opening Day hits. I'm excited right.

910
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: Opening Day feels different, feels like springs in the air.

911
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: Feels like it's the moment where everything you know, winters

912
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: start finally dying off, especially on the East Coast. It

913
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 1: feels like maybe the weather's gonna get a little better,

914
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,720
Speaker 1: got a little joy, You're gonna sit back watch a game.

915
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: It's gonna be exciting. It wasn't. It just wasn't. And

916
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Speaker 1: maybe I'm missing something. Maybe I'm not the target audience,

917
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 1: But to me, Opening Day should be a spectacle. Opening

918
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: Day should be a day that you rule the calendar.

919
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: Opening Day is a day where your games are easy

920
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Speaker 1: to find. Opening Day is where your stars are being promoted.

921
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: Opening Day is the sort of moment that everybody wants

922
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 1: to sit back and talk about the who, the why,

923
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: the how, the why or the when all of it

924
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: at once. Instead, to me, Opening Day felt like the

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Speaker 1: sort of time that you step back and say, huh,

926
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Speaker 1: it's opening day. And even through all of that, Even

927
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Speaker 1: through all of that, you got to look at the

928
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Speaker 1: controversy and say, okay, would this show hey controversy be

929
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: something that pushes conversation even across pop culture boundaries. Oh, well,

930
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: we've got this big controversy, and the Dodgers, by the way,

931
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Speaker 1: spend all this money. Well, sort of deferred all this money.

932
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Speaker 1: But the Dodgers, by the way, invested in being a

933
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Speaker 1: great team, and as a result, this is going to

934
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: be a huge story. Just didn't feel like it. It

935
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Speaker 1: felt to me like an afterthought and an afterthought when

936
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Speaker 1: all you're competing with essentially is NBA basketball. That doesn't

937
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: really matter yet because it's not the playoffs and conversation

938
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Speaker 1: around March Madness. If you can't cut through, then when

939
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: the NFL is staying out of your way, it's not

940
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Speaker 1: even putting the draft up there yet. Like we'll talk

941
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Speaker 1: about in a minute, the fact that the NBA or

942
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: the NFL, I should say, doesn't always play nice with

943
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: other sports. They don't always give a damn about staying

944
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: out of your way. They did, they weren't there, They

945
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 1: weren't there to be a distraction on MLB Opening Day,

946
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Speaker 1: and that didn't prevent the day from falling flat. Figgie,

947
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: you're in LA, all right, So you're out there on

948
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 1: the West coast in the city that loves baseball. Los

949
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: Angeles loves baseball. So the Dodgers are always going to resonate,

950
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Speaker 1: and the Dodgers, particular this year, with the additions that

951
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Speaker 1: they've made to make themselves world Series contenders, are going

952
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 1: to resonate. For you, as a steam head, I love

953
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 1: using that word over and over and over again. Yep.

954
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Speaker 1: Did MLB like did Opening Day hit? Was it? Like?

955
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Speaker 1: Was it this big thing? Because for me it wasn't.

956
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: For Twitter acts, so a lot of people complaining out

957
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: and about not being able to find the games, et cetera.

958
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: Like the game time seemed a little weird, Like it

959
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: didn't feel like it resonated there. Did it resonate in LA?

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Speaker 3: That's interesting?

961
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 2: Well, I'll be, you know, fully transparent. So the show

962
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 2: that I work on, the local show where the flagship

963
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 2: station of the Dodgers, we actually did our broadcast from

964
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Speaker 2: Dodgers Stadium on Opening Day with the hordes of media

965
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 2: just unreal. It seemed like like a World Series game,

966
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 2: the amount of people they were there for Oshani and

967
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Speaker 2: Freddie Freeman and all of that. And I was basically

968
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Speaker 2: there from nine o'clock in the morning until nine o'clock

969
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 2: at night, so there were kind of TVs on in

970
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Speaker 2: the background with other games going on. So as far

971
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 2: as the national hoopla around Opening Day, I'll be honest

972
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 2: with you, I can't full speak to it because I

973
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 2: was just inundated with Dodgers and Cardinals generally speaking on

974
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 2: Opening Day, and I again, I can't speak to it.

975
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 2: Usually there's games on all day, whether it's on the

976
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Speaker 2: four letter, your former employer, whether it's on MLB network.

977
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Speaker 2: It's odd to me, considering all the teams that were

978
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 2: in action on Thursday and then again on Friday, that

979
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 2: games would have been hard to find. I would have

980
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 2: thought that games would have been quite literally all over

981
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,439
Speaker 2: the place, smacking you in the face from us from

982
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 2: that standpoint, So are we saying that games were not

983
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 2: easily able to be found on Thursday?

984
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: Yes, there were. There were. There were fans complaining about

985
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 1: it on Thursday, but that could also be local markets.

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Speaker 1: I'm the first to admit, like, look, I'm I'm a

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Speaker 1: T mobile guy. And T Mobile gives me, they give

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Speaker 1: you m B, they give me mob Pass for free.

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Speaker 1: Right by the way, I love it makes it easy

990
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Speaker 1: to get like the I think MLB, the MLB Pass

991
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: is a pretty effective, easy way to keep up with

992
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: the game. So I think in today's world, if you

993
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 1: want to find the games, you can usually find the games.

994
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: So like and look, I'm the first to admit that

995
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: perspectives mat on where we are, right Like, if you're

996
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 1: in a non baseball city, I think probably it's a

997
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: little different. I, as I mentioned over and over, was

998
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,919
Speaker 1: split in the time in Connecticut is a big Red

999
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 1: Sox Yankeys area, right So like, certainly baseball resonates in

1000
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: New England, it is life in New England. Certainly baseball

1001
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: resonates in LA. So maybe just because I wasn't in

1002
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: one of those two places, maybe it just didn't hit

1003
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: the same And maybe that's me, you know, maybe that's me.

1004
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: There is a difference in the overall national tone. And

1005
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what gets it back, And I don't

1006
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 1: know that maybe anybody cares, but to me, there's a

1007
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,919
Speaker 1: difference in the overall tone. And I think we were

1008
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 1: hard on this show on you know, college basketball when

1009
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: the season started about the where the why the hent when?

1010
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: Then it's like, hey, you're starting this right now, nobody

1011
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 1: can pay attention to it. I don't think those roadblocks

1012
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: exist for baseball. I think there's plenty of opportunity to

1013
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: pay attention early in the season to baseball because the

1014
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: calendar really allows it. You just got to capture the conversation.

1015
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 2: I don't think you still will, like I mean, there's

1016
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 2: a look at major League Baseball's numbers. He mentioned you

1017
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 2: being a bit of a TV ratings nerd into a

1018
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 2: certain degree, I am too. The numbers from the last

1019
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 2: couple of years before last season, when they had the

1020
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 2: advent of the pitch clock and banning of the shifts,

1021
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 2: the numbers and the demographics, you know, for the average

1022
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: age of the fan dropped about ten years, I believe.

1023
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 2: I think it went from age fifty seven to forty seven.

1024
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 2: All these things they did to draw in a younger audience.

1025
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 2: Streaming numbers were up, attendance was up. So I really

1026
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 2: can't speak to what the issue was in particular on

1027
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 2: opening Day and why there might have been an issue

1028
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 2: or a lack of support, because look, even when I

1029
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 2: got home from the from the Dodger Cardinal game. I mean,

1030
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 2: just looking back at some of the highlights of Yankees

1031
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 2: atro seemed entertaining. At the end of that Rangers Cubs

1032
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 2: was with a walk off. There was seemed to be

1033
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 2: an entertaining game. Maybe it just takes a little bit

1034
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 2: of a while to get to get its traction going.

1035
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 2: And look, there was NCAA tournament games going on that

1036
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 2: night too. You do have that to compete with, and

1037
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 2: people have office pool and brackets, and maybe Opening Day

1038
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 2: got overshadowed by that to a certain degree from a

1039
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 2: national standpoint. But baseball, going back to last season, we'll

1040
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 2: see if it carries over This year seems to be

1041
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 2: having a bit of a resurgence from a national standpoint.

1042
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 2: We'll have to see if that uptick continues. But I

1043
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 2: think it's actually as healthy as it's been in the

1044
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 2: last decade.

1045
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: Now. Look, and I'll take this perspective all day long, Like,

1046
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: I don't think you know necessarily that basic that sports

1047
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: talk radio always has to be takes to have to

1048
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: be right, Like I'm willing to evolve in this entire

1049
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 1: conversation around baseball, and if the numbers bear it out,

1050
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: I'm a bit I am a big believer in the

1051
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: numbers bearing it out. I think March madness plays a

1052
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: little portion of it, There is no doubt about that.

1053
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: I think March madness plays a little bit of a

1054
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: portion in the conversation. But I also think it's obtuced

1055
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: for a lot of people just to sit there and say, well,

1056
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: you can't compete with march madness, only because we watch

1057
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: sports compete with each other on that level all the time. Like,

1058
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: I don't think March madness is at a level of

1059
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 1: attention that is insurmountable. It is not the NFL, right,

1060
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 1: it is not this moment of It's not college back

1061
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: football that runs such huge numbers. So I think you're

1062
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: talking about two sports that are capable of running comparable numbers, right,

1063
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: And with that being said, then maybe that's the residence.

1064
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: The other part of it is, I do think that

1065
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 1: the controversy, weirdly will help. I think at some point

1066
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: the conversation about gambling, which is a very rare one

1067
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: we've had on this show for a few weeks. The

1068
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 1: conversation around gambling hitting all sports right now is only

1069
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: going to continue to put more eyes on show. Hey,

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00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 1: and whether we like it or not, drama is good,

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00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: Like drama is good for sports, like the original reality

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00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: TV show was sports, there's no doubt about it. And

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00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: the more that there is drama around any player, whether

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00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 1: it's for something that they've done wrong or whether it's

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00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 1: for who they're dating, all of these things. As much

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00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: as you know super fans hate that stuff, I think

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00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,240
Speaker 1: it's good for attention. So I keep looking at show

1078
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 1: Hey and the Dodgers, thinking the longer that we keep

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00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: talking about all of this, the more people are going

1080
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: to be flocking to watch to see what it happens

1081
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: now and what it means for how he plays now,

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00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: and the conspiracy theorists will get louder, and all of

1083
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 1: that raises attention. At some point. Drama is good, like

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00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: there's a reason shows like Below Deck and The Real

1085
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: Housewives do really well, Like vander Pump is a show

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00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: on Bravo for anybody that hasn't watched, that was virtually

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00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: dying in the ratings, and all of a sudden there's

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00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 1: a massive scandal scandabal where you suddenly got the it's

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00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: revealed that one guy was sleeping with this girl and

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00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: that was his best friends his girlfriend's best friend, and

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00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: it was this whole thing. All of a sudden, the

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00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: ratings went from its dying to the highest rated show

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00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,399
Speaker 1: on Bravo. So scandals work whether we're talking about TV

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00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: or sports.

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00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 2: By the way, the added element of drama to this

1096
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 2: show Altani, well he speaks English. He just doesn't feel

1097
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 2: comfortable enough doing get in front of every once where

1098
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 2: we can all hear him, but he's basically silent. So

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00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,720
Speaker 2: now it allows the theater of the mind for everybody

1100
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 2: to get their minds turning as to what happened, and

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00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 2: it's harpening what he says, what he does, what he's thinking. Why,

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00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 2: you know, did he give access to his accounts? Why

1103
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 2: didn't he answer questions? Can he answer answer questions? So

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00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 2: it just the speculation of it all just adds an

1105
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 2: extra layer to it because you can't actually walk up

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00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 2: to him and ask him a direct question.

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00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 3: You know, added an element of drama.

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00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: The the article that was put out this week talking

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00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 1: about how his own teammates don't even really know him,

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00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: you know, right, and then so many people find that staggering.

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00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: I can't speak to a locker room. I'm you know,

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00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: I'm five nine what do I know about being in

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00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,240
Speaker 1: a Major League Baseball locker room? Like, I'm not that

1114
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:36,240
Speaker 1: that that guy.

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Speaker 3: Two base four foot two. I can't tell you that.

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00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: I spent years of my life living on on tour

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00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: buses with other musicians, And there were plenty of guys

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00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: that I was on tour with four years, and then

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00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you'd find something out and you'd

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00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: be like, really, I had no idea, like it is

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00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 1: like especially I think for guys. Sometimes some guys are

1122
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,439
Speaker 1: just comfortable being quiet and closed off. And hey, work

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00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: is separate than then home, and they keep that separate

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Speaker 1: all the way through. And that doesn't matter if you're

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00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: living on a tour of bus for eight nine months

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00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: at a time, like work is separate from home. Some

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00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: things are just incredibly private. So I think it's interesting

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Speaker 1: when when people come out and say, oh, well, if

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00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: his teammates don't know him, he must be hiding something

1130
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 1: or he's just kind of a private dude. Right.

1131
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 2: And by the way, it's not that his teammates don't

1132
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 2: like him. His Angel teammates love him. Dodger teammates joke around,

1133
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 2: say he's a good guy in the clubhouse, but you know,

1134
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 2: once you know, the guys leave the stadium and go

1135
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 2: their separate ways. He's just persignon on Grada. He disappears

1136
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 2: into the night and does his own thing. Well, nothing

1137
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Speaker 2: wrong with that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, not at all, And it'll be interesting to

1139
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: keep an eye out. This is my this is my

1140
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,720
Speaker 1: pledge to the world. I'm going to be open minded

1141
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: about all things Major League Baseball this year, and that

1142
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Speaker 1: includes falling in love with it. I just want to

1143
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: make sure that you know, like my whole thing is,

1144
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: I don't I think it's lazy. He'd always have a

1145
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,919
Speaker 1: we have to fix Baseball conversation, right, I think there's

1146
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 1: way to fall in love with what the sport is doing.

1147
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: And being on this show, my guys that love it

1148
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: is gonna make me fall in love with it one

1149
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,399
Speaker 1: way or the other. I'm always in love, by the way.

1150
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Speaker 1: where college fans stay. Speaking of things that we love,

1155
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: we all love the NFL. Everybody loves the NFL. There

1156
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: is one person that absolutely hates it today. We'll tell

1157
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: you about it when we come back next Fellas on

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back in. It's the Fellas Live

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00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: from the ti iraq dot Com Studios, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jason Fitz, Kevin figures Ian Mighty Mark. Where the

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00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: Fellas hanging out with you cousin with the much deserved

1162
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: day off. We'll get to one person that absolutely despises

1163
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: the NFL right now, and there's no question about it.

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00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: But first I gotta open this up to the phone,

1165
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: all right, So you know, during the commercials, we have

1166
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: the opportunity to sort of get out there on X

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00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 1: and interact with people. And I like doing that. I

1168
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: like being inactive with everybody at Jason Fitz by the way,

1169
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:11,879
Speaker 1: shame must plug come follow me. So you know how

1170
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: Twitter just brings you things that have nothing to do

1171
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: with what you're looking at, but all of a sudden

1172
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: it's there on your screen. So I see this tweet

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00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: come up and it just it's blown my mind a

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00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: little bit. Don't know this guy, not going to give

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00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: him any credit, don't know who is, has nothing to

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00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 1: do with me. I just have to throw this out

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00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 1: to you, Figgy and see if this makes any sense

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00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: to you. This is the tweet. All right, are you

1179
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: ready for this? This? This is a scenario, and it's

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Speaker 1: important to point out this is a This is in Atlanta.

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00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: Apparently this guy tweets, I left my MacBook on the

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00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: plane and it was stolen. I've tracked it down to

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00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: a flea market in South Atlanta. While I know it's

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00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: in the building, I don't know where. And he posts

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00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 1: the picture of his laptop and of the flea market,

1186
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: and he is this morning going through this flea market

1187
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 1: booth by booth to try and find his laptop. I

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00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: have so many questions, the first of which is, like,

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Speaker 1: if you left it on a plane, you leave the plane.

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Speaker 1: They tell you repeatedly when you're walking off the plane, Hey,

1191
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: you can't even get back on this thing. Like I've

1192
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Speaker 1: lost multiple pairs of air pods on a plane. This

1193
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 1: has happened to me repeatedly. Do I get to say

1194
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,760
Speaker 1: they were stolen if I left them on the plane

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Speaker 1: and somebody else takes them.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 2: They said, please don't leave your items on the plane.

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Speaker 2: If you do it, they're gone forever. I unfortunately left

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Speaker 2: an iPad on a plane, so more so than I

1201
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 2: than you know, than than you know EarPods, actual eye

1202
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Speaker 2: an iPad. About five or six years ago it happened

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00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 2: to me, and I wouldn't say I was devastated, but

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Speaker 2: I was certainly very much upset. And now it was

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00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 2: basically it was a changeover flight, so I was like

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Speaker 2: it was the second leg of an international flight or

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Speaker 2: first leg of international flight. So I was like, so

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Speaker 2: I have to fly seven more hours. I have nothing

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Speaker 2: to watch. That was kind of my thought. I was like,

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Speaker 2: I could replace the iPad. That's I was more upset

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Speaker 2: by the fact that now I'm at the mercy of

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Speaker 2: watching whatever you know, got off a movie they're gonna

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Speaker 2: put up here for the next four and a half

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Speaker 2: five hours.

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Speaker 6: But you don't think it's considered stolen if you leave

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00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 6: it on the plane.

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00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 3: No, no, it's lost. It's lost, not stolen. So it's

1218
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Speaker 3: fair game once you leave it.

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Speaker 1: So let me be clear. I personally, if I walked

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Speaker 1: up onto a plane and I saw an iPad or

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00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: laptop or AirPods, I would take it to somebody and

1222
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: be like, hey, this is in the sea pocket in

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Speaker 1: front of me. There are there are stores that only

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00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: if you google it, there are stores all over the

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Speaker 1: country that all they do is sell things that were

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Speaker 1: left on planes that were never claimed. Right. So that's

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Speaker 1: the weird part about it is if I turn it in,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't even mean it's getting to its owner. But

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Speaker 1: you know, are you saying that you would consider it stolen?

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Speaker 1: If you?

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Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, I would, just because I consider it

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Speaker 6: a reasonable mistake. I mean, granted, I'm not you know,

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Speaker 6: knock on wood, but I'm not someone who, you know,

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Speaker 6: I have all these instances of like, oh, yeah, I

1235
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Speaker 6: left this expensive electronic on a plane and had it,

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Speaker 6: you know, quote unquote stolen. But to me, it just

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Speaker 6: feels like a reasonable mistake. And just because you leave

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Speaker 6: it doesn't mean that that it's it's it's up for grabs.

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Speaker 6: Anyone can grab it.

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Speaker 3: I'll put it this way.

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Speaker 2: In So, if let's say I have to find my

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00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 2: iPhone or find my iPad situation, you know, and I

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00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 2: know that it's somewhere nearby that's in reasonable distance for

1244
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 2: me to go find. I don't think this guy is

1245
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 2: necessarily out of pocket to go and try to find

1246
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 2: it and say like, oh, it's not in you know, Ecuador, somewhere.

1247
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 2: It's thirty miles away. Let me go see if I

1248
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 2: can sleuth it out. Now, Fitz, you might say, is

1249
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 2: it worth the confrontation? Some people might say yes, it

1250
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 2: depends on what the item is.

1251
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Speaker 1: So from that's where it gets scary to me, figging,

1252
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: because like I had a pair of AirPods that were

1253
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 1: stolen from me, and they were they were just stolen, right,

1254
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 1: But I've gone through some AirPods, y'all. Put Like, I

1255
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: had a pair of AirPods and I got a notification

1256
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: on my phone one time and they're like, hey, your

1257
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: AirPods are at the park, like five minutes from my house.

1258
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 1: And I remember sitting there with one of my buddies

1259
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 1: saying like, well, how's this gonna go? Like, am I

1260
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Speaker 1: gonna go to the park and be like, hey man,

1261
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,919
Speaker 1: you've got my AirPods? Like I'm looking at this guy's

1262
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 1: tweet thinking he's gonna walk into a flat market in

1263
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: South Atlanta with the find my location on his laptop

1264
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: and say that's mine, Like, I don't know how that's

1265
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: gonna go at all, Like that was it? How can

1266
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: you prove it? It's just that's that's wild to me, that

1267
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: that's risky all like that just feels like risky behavior.

1268
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I mean, Mark, you could walk up

1269
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 2: and have like the find my app and it's like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, that thing is pulsing. It's in your hand.

1271
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 2: This is my phone now. The person you're talking to

1272
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 2: can say that's my phone now too.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It could turn into a

1274
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Speaker 3: whole thing.

1275
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 2: It could turn it to a whole And then I say,

1276
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 2: you don't know if that's why I say it depends

1277
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 2: on what how much is it worth to you?

1278
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 6: I do respect the lengths that this guy is going

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Speaker 6: to to get it back, though I can't say I

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Speaker 6: I've ever heard of anyone going through lengths like this,

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Speaker 6: like going to a flea market, going booth by booth

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Speaker 6: to find out to track down the person who stole

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Speaker 6: your computer.

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Speaker 1: So you keep promised with.

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Speaker 3: You to bring things back. That's what it is.

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Speaker 1: Mark.

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Speaker 3: You just can't go by yourself, go with you.

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Speaker 1: But the other side of it is like if this

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Speaker 1: is one of those moments where I would say, like,

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Speaker 1: if you want your laptop back that much, you might

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Speaker 1: like call something like an authority of some sort because

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Speaker 1: let's be real, most likely the person at the flea

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Speaker 1: market in Atlanta did not steal your laptop. They acquired

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Speaker 1: your stolen laptop, which is a total So you're walking

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Speaker 1: up because if you're saying that you left it on

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Speaker 1: a flight, there's so many elements to this too, because

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Speaker 1: like if I get off the flight and then I'm

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Speaker 1: headed somewhere else, Like I drive away, it's in my

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Speaker 1: back pocket, in my back I think it's in my backpack,

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Speaker 1: It's not there. I figured it out the next day. Well,

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Speaker 1: how many times was that that laptop left in the

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Speaker 1: back seat the back of someone's seeping for somebody was like,

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Speaker 1: oh I'm taking this labnaik, you know, Like it's a

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01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 1: total different scenario. But then, in theory, whoever then took

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Speaker 1: the laptop, whether it was an employee at the airline

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01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 1: or whether it was a passenger, whoever took the laptop

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Speaker 1: likely sold it to the flee. Like I just have

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Speaker 1: a hard time in my mind thinking somebody happened to

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01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 1: sit down in the seat and be like, oh, I've

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Speaker 1: got a booth to the flea market. This would do

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Speaker 1: me really well, you know what I mean. Like, so

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Speaker 1: it feels like you're not You're getting like a third

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Speaker 1: party involved. I just that feels like a dangerous risk

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Speaker 1: for a laptop too to me.

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Speaker 6: True, But I do think that the main purpose of

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01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 6: this whole thing is getting the laptop back. It's not

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Speaker 6: finding the person who stole your laptop necessarily, So it's

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Speaker 6: not about the confrontation. It's just about this guy really

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Speaker 6: wants to get his laptop back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But if you walk up and it's like seven year

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Speaker 2: old little Timmy watching blue Ye on the laptop and

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Speaker 2: you're like, hey man, that's my laptop, and he's like,

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Speaker 2: what do you mean my mommy bought this from me?

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Speaker 3: It's like, how do you handling that? How does that

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Speaker 3: where mommy buying from?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm just sitting here trying to watch trying to

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01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 7: watch BLUEE all right, I don't watch you with you too,

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Speaker 7: and you damn hand it back.

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Speaker 1: I'm also thinking of like the dad that turns around says, no,

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Speaker 1: I bought it. I bought it from whatever, whoever wherever.

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Speaker 1: I bought it from a pawn shop, I bought it

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Speaker 1: from somewhere else. I acquired this from someone who acquired

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01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 1: this from someone Like I could get pretty contentious. Now

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Speaker 1: you're taking some you're taking the dad the kid's laptop,

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Speaker 1: while the dad's standing there saying, wait a minute, I

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01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 1: spent X amount of hundreds of dollars on this laptop.

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Speaker 1: You can't just take it from me, like I mean,

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Speaker 1: the layers on this.

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Speaker 2: So it's either we're getting into a fistfight or it's like, well,

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01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 2: now we have to get like get a lawyer involved

1342
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 2: and go to court over And at that point in time,

1343
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 2: when you're paying lawyer fees, it is like, dude, just

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Speaker 2: buy a new laptop.

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01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 6: And I can't see I can't actually see him finding

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01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 6: the person, you know, say he finds the correct stall

1348
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 6: at this flea market. I can't see this going down

1349
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 6: just completely, you know, no no issues, no conflict, like

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Speaker 6: oh yeah, sorry, my bad, it's yours.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 7: If it's that many layers to go through to get

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01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 7: it back, you know, you just have to like chalk

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Speaker 7: it up.

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Speaker 3: I have to start all over, get another one.

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Speaker 1: I'm still gonna die on the hill of having had

1357
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 1: multiple pairs of AirPods left on the seatback in front

1358
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 1: of me from years of flying. If I left him

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Speaker 1: in the seatback and I'm gone and then somebody else

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01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 1: comes up and they're they're you know, they're mid midway

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01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 1: through their flight, like the flight was in Let's say

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01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 1: it's Atlantic, because that's there. So you know, this guy

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01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 1: got I connected from Atlanta to la I'm on my

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01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 1: way out. Well, the next person on that plane is

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01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 1: going from Atlanta to Paris, and they're on a flight

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01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 1: to Paris, and all of a sudden, they've got their

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01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 1: snacks and they're you know, they're they're storing their ground

1368
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 1: crackers and they look in there and they're like, ooh,

1369
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 1: some AirPods. But they didn't steal those AirPods, like I

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01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 1: left those air pods. Like if if somebody's walking down

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01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 1: the street in the park and there's a pair of

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Speaker 1: AirPods on the ground and they pick them up, they

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01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: didn't steal them. I dropped them.

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01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 6: True, at what point do those AirPods stop being yours?

1375
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 6: Like how far away from the aircraft, you know, you

1376
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 6: leaving the airport do you have to get Because in theory,

1377
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 6: at any point you could be like, oh shit, you know,

1378
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 6: I forgot my AirPods, you know, and you can go

1379
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 6: back and get them. But you know, is there like

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01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 6: a certain point where you've gotten far enough away where

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01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 6: you can't.

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01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, the minute, the minute, you're no longer able to

1383
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 1: go back, Like I think, when they've boarded the next flight,

1384
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: you've probably lost your shot because being real, the person

1385
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 1: sitting in that seat doesn't know if you know you're

1386
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 1: two gates over, or if you're already in your uber

1387
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 1: headed to a hotel, or if you've already caught one

1388
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 1: of those stupid connections where they only gave you eight

1389
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 1: minutes to get from one gate to the next and

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01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 1: you're headed to you know, South Africa. They have no idea, like,

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01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 1: so they can't know the context, So what are they

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01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 1: supposed to do? Like? And and then realistically, if the

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01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 1: person takes the AirPods out of the seat back in

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01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 1: front of him, hands him to the employee, do we

1395
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 1: really think the employee's gonna turn around and try and

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01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 1: find the rightful owner of those things.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, I'll try to hook them up to the bluetooth

1398
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 2: on their phone. Come on, now we're talking about it.

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01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's gonna work. Like I feel like that.

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01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 1: Come on, when we were in elementary school, is finders keepers? Right? Like?

1401
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 1: We lose that all of a sudden, like you walked

1402
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 1: off the plane, you left them there. You can say

1403
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 1: you lost them and somebody else grabbed them, but I

1404
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 1: don't think you get like stole to me is a

1405
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 1: very specific word, like steal to me implies I dozed off,

1406
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 1: You reached into the overhead, You took the laptop out

1407
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: of my backpack and you put it in your backpack.

1408
01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 1: You stole it me walking off the plane, like leaving

1409
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 1: my entire laptop in the seatback.

1410
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 3: That's not me, that's not me. Yep, I had a

1411
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 3: brain fart and it came back, and you know, bit me.

1412
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 3: My bad.

1413
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: We'll let that look at it. We'll try and figure

1414
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 1: it out. I'll keep you updated on this because he's

1415
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 1: live tweeting as he goes through this. So we'll see

1416
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 1: if the live tweeting stops at some point, because I'm

1417
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 1: a little concerned for his health and safety.

1418
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 3: If he started listening, we're still listening.

1419
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 2: If periscope is still a thing, turn on the live

1420
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 2: video feed once you find it, I'll tune in.

1421
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 1: I want to see that you are one thousand percent

1422
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 1: right all right? Coming up next on Fox Sports Saturday

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Speaker 1: Live from the ti rack dot Com Studios I'll tell

1424
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 1: you the one person that hates the NFL more than

1425
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Speaker 1: anybody right now. But first FIGI hit us with what's

1426
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 1: going on in the world of sports? All right?

1427
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Speaker 3: Well, what's going on? Friday night? With Sweet sixteen hoops action?

1428
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 2: For the men and women, we had the guys on

1429
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 2: Tennessee picking up an eighty two to seventy five victory

1430
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 2: over Creighton to alta connect with twenty four points. There

1431
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 2: for the volunteers, there are the two seed in the Midwest,

1432
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 2: and we'll face top seed at Purdue on Sunday. In

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Speaker 2: the Elite eight, the boiler Maker has made light work

1434
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:04,479
Speaker 2: of Gonzaga eighty to sixty eight, Kyle Philipowski with sixteen points,

1435
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 2: leading Duke over Houston fifty four to fifty one. Tough

1436
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 2: break for the Cougar as they lost star guard Jamal

1437
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 2: shed early in the first half with a severe ankle sprain.

1438
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 2: Blue Devils will take on upstart in C State, who

1439
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Speaker 2: defeated Marquette sixty seven to fifty eight. Speaking of the ladies'

1440
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 2: top overall seeds, South Carolina remains unbeaten day outlast Indiana

1441
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 2: seventy nine to seventy five. N C State defeated Stanford

1442
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 2: seventy seven to sixty seven. You had victories for Texas

1443
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 2: at Oregon State as well. In the NBA, Minnesota and

1444
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 2: Oklahoma City tied for first place in the Western Conference

1445
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 2: after wins over Denver and Phoenix, respectively. The Spurs defeated

1446
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 2: the Nicks in overtime despite sixty one points from Jalen Brunson.

1447
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Speaker 1: Back to the Fellas, all right, so I can't say

1448
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 1: that this was staggering news. It and Fellas on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio Tyrock dot Com studios. He's Kevin Figures, I'm

1450
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 1: Jason fitz Ian and Mighty Mark working on the show. Also,

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Speaker 1: I can't say I was surprised by this, but I

1452
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 1: think the the NFL has clearly sent the message of

1453
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 1: up yours to absolutely everybody else, and rightfully so, they're

1454
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 1: the big kid in the playground. I understand that they

1455
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 1: don't have to play nice in the sandbox with anybody,

1456
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 1: and frankly doesn't bother me that they don't. But with

1457
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Speaker 1: the announcement coming out of owners meetings that the NFL

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01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 1: has decided that they are going to play games on

1459
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 1: Christmas Day, now you might be saying, wait, they played

1460
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 1: games last year on Christmas Day, right, But there was

1461
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 1: a real conversation even at the Super Bowl when I

1462
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 1: was out there covering it, about whether or not they

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01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 1: would have the audacity to do that again, knowing that

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Speaker 1: it went from Monday last year because the leap year,

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01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 1: it's on a Wednesday this year. Typically the NFL doesn't

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Speaker 1: play on Wednesday. So the real concept was there was

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Speaker 1: no way the NFL was going to put a game

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01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 1: on Wednesday, right. I don't know why that was presumed

1469
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 1: at the time, and at the time I felt like

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Speaker 1: I was kind of surprised that so many people thought

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Speaker 1: Roger Goodell would give up a big money day. The

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Speaker 1: answer is he's not. Because the NFL has announced they

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Speaker 1: will play games on Christmas Day, even though it's a Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: It means that the team's playing on Christmas Day will

1475
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 1: play on the Saturday before Christmas instead of the Sunday,

1476
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 1: which will be the same as essentially a Sunday to

1477
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 1: Thursday turnaround, so that they can justify the health and

1478
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 1: safety portion of it. But realistically, this is about the

1479
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 1: fact that we all watched I watched, you watched people

1480
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:19,639
Speaker 1: flock to it, and it was beautiful. I loved every

1481
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 1: second of it. But if I'm an NBA fanatic, and

1482
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 1: if I'm Adam Silver, I'm devastated because almost every conversation

1483
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 1: about should the NBA shorten their season for attention at

1484
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 1: some point gravitates back to why don't they just start

1485
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 1: it on Christmas Day? That's the real opening of the

1486
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 1: NBA season? Not anymore, there's no way. In a world

1487
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Speaker 1: where so much attention is paid to the NFL, and

1488
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:47,600
Speaker 1: in a world where the ratings are so big for

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01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 1: what they did last year on Christmas Day, the schedule

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Speaker 1: makers are going to be smart. They're gonna make sure

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01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 1: they put great games on a doubleheader on Christmas that

1492
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:58,680
Speaker 1: people will flock to. They're gonna put substantial brands in

1493
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 1: that spot. And now, if you're the NBA, you got

1494
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 1: to look around, and you got to ask yourself, when

1495
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 1: do you cut through If you can't get people's attention

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01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 1: on Christmas Day anymore? And you know that New Year's

1497
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 1: Day really isn't going to be a thing for you either.

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01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 2: Maybe you can do Black front Hell, never mind, there's

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01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 2: the NFL on Black Friday.

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01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 3: You're right, You're right, figure like there's no in the.

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01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 1: It's the real estate has been taken, and this is

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01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:27,639
Speaker 1: such a by the NFL. It's such a smart move.

1503
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:31,679
Speaker 1: It's a great move by the league because frankly, Christmas

1504
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 1: Day games last year felt special. They did, and they're

1505
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:37,559
Speaker 1: going to feel special again this year. And when everybody's

1506
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 1: done opening the Presence and hanging out with Santa, it's

1507
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 1: gonna be awesome to sit down and watch great football games.

1508
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 1: But man, figure, if I'm the NBA, I'm scared because

1509
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 1: I really genuinely believe that now my entire opportunity to

1510
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 1: catch attention for the regular season is going to be

1511
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 1: dependent on what the All Star Game and that does,

1512
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:00,680
Speaker 1: Like does the the NBA win?

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01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 3: I don't know, that's a good question. You might have

1514
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 3: to change your entire model.

1515
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:06,640
Speaker 2: Like look, I will say that the Ncson Tournament, as

1516
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 2: much as we made fun of it and mocked it,

1517
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 2: actually had its desire.

1518
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 3: Result.

1519
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 2: The ratings were up significantly over what they typically would

1520
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 2: have been during that time of the season. Maybe you

1521
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 2: moved from Christmas Day to Christmas Eve or something, I

1522
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 2: don't know, and it was I mean, basically you'd have

1523
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 2: to hang your head in shame and admit defeat. But

1524
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 2: I mean you're going up against a juggernaut and you

1525
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 2: know that there's no way you can compete with the NFL.

1526
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:30,800
Speaker 2: And if you don't want you know your marquee day

1527
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 2: and have all your eyeballs stolen away, which they have

1528
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 2: been and they will be in the future.

1529
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:36,799
Speaker 3: You got to find a way to adjust.

1530
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:39,600
Speaker 2: So maybe you take it and have a slew of

1531
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 2: day games on Christmas Eve or something or the day

1532
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 2: after Christmas.

1533
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:45,679
Speaker 3: But you're just gonna get eaten alive by the NFL.

1534
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:47,680
Speaker 2: If they're gonna choose to do this every single year,

1535
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 2: regardless of what day of the week that Christmas falls on,

1536
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:52,679
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to cut your losses and Jaye, change

1537
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:53,639
Speaker 2: the way that you operate.

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01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love the way you said regardless of what

1539
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 1: day Christmas falls on, Because let's be clear, if the

1540
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 1: NFL is willing to play football on Wednesday, they are

1541
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,839
Speaker 1: now going to play football on Christmas Day forever.

1542
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 3: YEP.

1543
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 1: Wednesday is the most difficult day to justify. Tuesday is easy.

1544
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 1: You just got a little stretch out from Monday Night football.

1545
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:16,559
Speaker 1: That's no big deal. Thursday. They already play on Friday.

1546
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 1: To your point, Black Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, those are

1547
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 1: all fine. Wednesday felt like the one time that they

1548
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 1: couldn't step on it, and they have and they're not

1549
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 1: going to take that back. This is one of my

1550
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 1: buddies for years always talked about local taxes and they say,

1551
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 1: you know what, the problem with local government once they

1552
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 1: raise taxes is that they never come in one day

1553
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:37,719
Speaker 1: and say, you know what, we're going to lower sales tax.

1554
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 1: Like we realized that sales tax has just gotten too high.

1555
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 1: We're going to like it's rare that that ever happens.

1556
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 1: And the way I look at it is the NFL

1557
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 1: with games. It's the same exact way. Once they figure

1558
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 1: out that they can sell something and make money off

1559
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 1: of it, which is why streaming individual games is going

1560
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 1: to become a bigger and bigger part of the process.

1561
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:58,560
Speaker 1: It's why you know, streaming playoff games isn't going to

1562
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 1: go anywhere. All of these that the NFL is trying,

1563
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 1: and we're looking at it and saying, well, this couldn't

1564
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 1: certainly couldn't be the future. Yes it is. Anytime they

1565
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 1: take a little piece of land and they figure out

1566
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 1: how to make money off of it, then they just

1567
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 1: keep taking more and more and more and I love

1568
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 1: it as a football fanatic. I just hate it for

1569
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 1: the NBA because the NBA regular season already feels worthless sometimes,

1570
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 1: and we're gonna get into a trap where there's simply

1571
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 1: no room. You said, no room left at the end,

1572
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 1: which I love. There's gonna be no vacancy from September

1573
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:35,680
Speaker 1: first all the way until mid February for anything that

1574
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 1: doesn't have a.

1575
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:38,919
Speaker 2: Football I'm waiting for the NFL to send a lobbyist

1576
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:40,640
Speaker 2: to Congress to try to create an eighth day of

1577
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 2: the week so they can just so they can have

1578
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 2: an additional football game.

1579
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 3: So how about Friturday. Let's have a couple of games

1580
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 3: on that day too. Why not?

1581
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 2: But it really is, it truly is a dilemma for

1582
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 2: the NBA, which is unfortunate because I am someone who

1583
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 2: does love the NBA. I love the morning until night,

1584
01:12:57,400 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 2: you know, from a West Coast standpoint, being able to

1585
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 2: watch all of the NFL the NBA games. But to

1586
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 2: your point last season, I mean I was all Raiders

1587
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:08,560
Speaker 2: Chiefs and then then the forty nine Ers and the

1588
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens. I mean I could care less of what

1589
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:15,760
Speaker 2: the NBA games were that day. Didn't even I have

1590
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 2: no I couldn't even tell you right now who was

1591
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 2: playing up against those two games because they didn't matter.

1592
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 1: You can't tell me that doesn't scare the hell out

1593
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 1: of ESPN too, because ESPN and ABC for years had

1594
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 1: banked on that is a big day. Yeah, it's a

1595
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:30,759
Speaker 1: big money day. It's a big sales day. And as

1596
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 1: everybody continues to negotiate with leagues on new rights agreements constantly. Man,

1597
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 1: if you're the NBA, we can talk about the global

1598
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 1: popularity of the sport. We could talk about, you know,

1599
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:44,639
Speaker 1: the things that work for the NBA on social media

1600
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 1: and the way they monetize. But when it comes to

1601
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:50,599
Speaker 1: just getting people to sit down and say, hey, here's

1602
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 1: our marquet. Remember a couple of years ago when they

1603
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 1: decided they were going to put Memphis and Jaw on

1604
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 1: Christmas Day. That was such a statement for what the

1605
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 1: league thought of John Moran, and with the league thought

1606
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 1: of Memphis going into that season, it meant something. I

1607
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 1: don't think there's anything now that the NBA can do.

1608
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:08,720
Speaker 1: They can have that same level of impact during the

1609
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:10,839
Speaker 1: regular season to make it mean.

1610
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 3: Something they've conceded before.

1611
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know if you remember, but maybe

1612
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 2: eight ten years ago on Thanksgiving Day, the NBA used

1613
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 2: to have its TNT double headers on Thanksgiving, going head

1614
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 2: to head against the Lions and the Cowboys games that

1615
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 2: eventually they just stopped doing it because they're like, what

1616
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:26,639
Speaker 2: are we doing? Why are we wasting everybody's time? Nobody's

1617
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:29,720
Speaker 2: watching this, and they stopped having them. That's gonna end

1618
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 2: up happening sooner than later, especially if the NFL ends

1619
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:34,600
Speaker 2: up committing, and we know that they are, They're going

1620
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 2: to make you know, tens of millions of dollars off

1621
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:39,639
Speaker 2: of one or two games on Christmas Day every single

1622
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:41,680
Speaker 2: year moving forward. They'd be dumb not to try it.

1623
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 2: It's capitalism, baby, That's how this thing works. The NBA

1624
01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 2: is gonna have to figure something else out because a

1625
01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 2: full slate of games for the NBA going head to

1626
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 2: head against the NFL. They already admitted it didn't work

1627
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 2: on Thanksgiving. They're gonna have to admit that ultimately it's

1628
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 2: not going to work on Christmas Day for them anymore either.

1629
01:14:57,360 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, for all of the conversation about the NFL, look

1630
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 1: no further than the NFL Draft. For the popularity of

1631
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 1: the sport. When we come back on The Fellas on

1632
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, I'll tell you why. As much as

1633
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 1: we're having conversations about all of these quarterbacks in this

1634
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:15,720
Speaker 1: year's draft, we might actually be having the wrong conversations.

1635
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 1: We'll talk about it next Welcome back in. It's the

1636
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:21,680
Speaker 1: Fellas Live from the ti iraq dot Com studios. I'm

1637
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 1: Jason fitz Kevin Figures, Yeah, Ian Mighty Mark. We're all

1638
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 1: hanging out with you on this beautiful, amazing Saturday morning.

1639
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 1: And here's the thing. I just wonder right now if

1640
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 1: we've all lost our damn minds when it comes to

1641
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the NFL Draft. I gotta be honest with

1642
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 1: you now. Everybody that's listening to me at all knows

1643
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:45,640
Speaker 1: that I'm a lifelong, diehard Raiders fan. I wear it

1644
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 1: on my sleeve, and I understand Raiders fans, myself included,

1645
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 1: are desperate for a quarterback. But think about what this

1646
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 1: year's draft is and are we really talking enough about

1647
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 1: the fact that there are red flags for almost every

1648
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:00,720
Speaker 1: one of these quarterbacks. On one of my shows on

1649
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 1: Yahoo with Charles Robinson and See Robins, the first person

1650
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 1: that came in and said, hey, teams are looking across

1651
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 1: the board saying there are at least questions on several

1652
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 1: of these guys, and we're treating every one of these

1653
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:18,559
Speaker 1: top prospects like there suddenly the second coming. You can

1654
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:22,760
Speaker 1: make the argument, Caleb Williams, obviously the personality rubbed some

1655
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:24,800
Speaker 1: people the wrong way, whatever you think about that. But

1656
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 1: there's also questions about making place on schedule versus off schedule.

1657
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:32,919
Speaker 1: Did he make easy things difficult? I think we're stretching,

1658
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 1: but there are question marks there.

1659
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 3: Fumble the ton too, By the way, that is.

1660
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 1: A very good point. Some teams are already talking about

1661
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 1: the fact that he's gone to social media to start

1662
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 1: responding to people that have things to say like is

1663
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:48,759
Speaker 1: he two thin skinning? Like these are these are real,

1664
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 1: real questions, I mean real questions. Jaydon Daniel's elbow looked weird.

1665
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 1: I don't think that's anything coming into the workout. But

1666
01:16:55,479 --> 01:17:00,040
Speaker 1: also it was one amazing explosive view of productivity. And

1667
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 1: if we were allowed to ask those questions about Joe Burrow,

1668
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 1: we're also allowed to ask those questions about Jayden. I

1669
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:08,719
Speaker 1: think they were answered with Burrow, but there's still questions.

1670
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 1: Drake May had to drop off in production from two

1671
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:13,680
Speaker 1: years ago to last year. Everybody saw it. So the

1672
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 1: question is why why did things look more difficult? I

1673
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 1: mean these are all JJ McCarthy can't throw left. I

1674
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 1: mean Nate Tice has done a great breakdown to some

1675
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:25,639
Speaker 1: of the issues JJ McCarthy has. Plus it's a great unknown,

1676
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:28,760
Speaker 1: like absolutely nobody seems to know why if he's this

1677
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 1: great prospect, they didn't utilize that more at Michigan. These

1678
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 1: are all fair question. Michael Pennix Junior has injury concerns

1679
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 1: like a figgy. It feels like every single fan base

1680
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 1: is sitting here saying, we are going to get our

1681
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:44,639
Speaker 1: savior and none of us know. But I can tell

1682
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 1: you this, in three, four or five years, none of

1683
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 1: us are going to be kind to revision his history.

1684
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 1: I feel like this is one of those classes where, yeah,

1685
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 1: everybody could blow up, then it could be amazing, and

1686
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:57,599
Speaker 1: I want that for every single team, every single fan base.

1687
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 1: But also in three or four years, I see all

1688
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 1: of a sudden here saying, well, how did we not

1689
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 1: see that coming? Yeah, the stats are working against you.

1690
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 2: I think like the hit rate for like even above

1691
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 2: average NFL starting quarterbacks is like under fifty percent. As

1692
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 2: far as guys taking in the first round, having successful careers,

1693
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 2: as far as being impactful starting players, it's just a

1694
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:19,680
Speaker 2: giant crapshoot. You never know, like you rewind back to

1695
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 2: I use guys as a perfect example. I remember Jake

1696
01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 2: Locker coming out of Washington. Great athlete, wasn't accurate, but man,

1697
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:27,240
Speaker 2: he can sling the ball and run like like hell,

1698
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 2: and he was a top pick in Major League Baseball.

1699
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 2: Great athlete. We can teach you out of him. Flamed out.

1700
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 2: Same thing was said about Josh Allen is one of

1701
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:36,640
Speaker 2: the best quarterbacks in the NFL. You just don't know.

1702
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:39,639
Speaker 2: It's an inexact science. Caleb Williams. I don't think people

1703
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 2: are talking about necessarily generational talent. But look, we slapped

1704
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 2: that on Trevor Lawrence and as of now he's an

1705
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 2: average NFL starting quarterback. Maybe he'll get better. He's still young,

1706
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 2: he can improve, you know. I mean, it's just there's

1707
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 2: so many different factors. Who you're drafted by, where you go,

1708
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 2: who you're playing with, who you're coached by. It's just

1709
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 2: a really difficult situation to try to project. So like

1710
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 2: we all end up falling in love with the tape,

1711
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 2: and all the guys on television hype these guys up

1712
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:09,720
Speaker 2: because they have to at a certain point, because a

1713
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:12,640
Speaker 2: quarterback position is such the popular position, and we know

1714
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 2: people are gonna end up reaching for a guy. It's

1715
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:18,759
Speaker 2: a lot to have to take in, and I'm certainly

1716
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 2: not convinced that any of these guys are necessarily going

1717
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 2: to be standout superstar players, even Kleb Williams when it

1718
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 2: comes to that. And this is someone who saw him

1719
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 2: up close and personal, and I think he's an excellent

1720
01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:29,800
Speaker 2: athlete and an excellent player, But as you mentioned, he's

1721
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:31,560
Speaker 2: definitely not perfect.

1722
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 3: And none of these guys are. It really is a crapshoot.

1723
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 1: There is such a important moment here, just to be

1724
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 1: honest with the world, Like we know that quarterbacks kick clicks.

1725
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 1: We know that in what we do for a living.

1726
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 1: If you walk into hosts an NFL show on TV

1727
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:50,639
Speaker 1: or radio right now and it's the middle of the offseason,

1728
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 1: you're like, what are we gonna talk about? There's a

1729
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:56,759
Speaker 1: real conversation behind the scenes of Okay, well, quarterbacks always

1730
01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 1: do well and the Cowboys always do well. Got anything

1731
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 1: on those That's why they get talked about all the time.

1732
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 1: So to your point, the funny thing is, you could

1733
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:06,679
Speaker 1: make an argument that the best player in this year's

1734
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 1: draft is Marvin Harrison Junior or Joe Alt the offensive lineman.

1735
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 1: There are guys in this year's draft that I think

1736
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 1: are plug and play day one starters, and they're gonna

1737
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 1: be available at five, six, seven, eight, Because right now

1738
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:22,720
Speaker 1: we've become so quarterback obsessed. I don't think we can

1739
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:25,559
Speaker 1: see the forest for the trees like we just can't anymore.

1740
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:27,639
Speaker 2: No, you're right, And when it comes to the quarterbacks,

1741
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 2: I mean, look at brock Party guy. I mean, one

1742
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 2: of the best quarterbacks in the NFL at least had

1743
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 2: a phenomenal season this past year, Wasn't he was an

1744
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:37,559
Speaker 2: afterthought coming in for all we know? Jordan Travis getting

1745
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:39,240
Speaker 2: to be in the best player coming out of this draft.

1746
01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:40,559
Speaker 3: You have no idea as.

1747
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:43,479
Speaker 2: Far as quarterbacks go, but everything gets so elevated onto

1748
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks shoulders, and I think a lot of GMS

1749
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:47,639
Speaker 2: get blinded by it. And to your point, great players

1750
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 2: in be getting passed up because of it.

1751
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 1: Well, everybody wants to take a shot when we come back.

1752
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:57,640
Speaker 1: One surprising SHOT's coming you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

1753
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:02,280
Speaker 1: It's lying season. We all know it's lying season when

1754
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 1: it comes to the NFL Draft. So the question is

1755
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 1: how do you figure out where there can be some truth?

1756
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:13,600
Speaker 1: And sometimes to do that, you need to dig a

1757
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 1: little deeper. You need to look a little more, and

1758
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 1: you need to try and figure out what actually makes sense.

1759
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 1: Along the way, you also have to listen to people

1760
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 1: you trust. And by doing all of that, I'm becoming

1761
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:29,880
Speaker 1: more and more convinced as we sit here right now

1762
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:33,839
Speaker 1: that a shocking move truly is coming with a second

1763
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:37,080
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Speaker 1: We've got Mighty Mark. The whole group. We're with you,

1771
01:21:57,479 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 1: and I know that everybody takes everything thing with a

1772
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 1: grain of salt this time of year when it comes

1773
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 1: to reports about traff picks rightfully so, because it truly

1774
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 1: is lying seasoned all the way across the board. Everybody

1775
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:11,680
Speaker 1: has a game, everybody has an agenda, and through that

1776
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 1: it feels impossible to try and parse any of it out.

1777
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:17,559
Speaker 1: But sometimes you also got to step back and ask

1778
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:19,920
Speaker 1: the why and the how, and then you got to read,

1779
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:22,240
Speaker 1: and you got to talk to people, and you got

1780
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 1: to try and figure out what's real. And the more

1781
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 1: that I do that, the more I become convinced, whether

1782
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 1: I agree with it or not, that JJ McCarthy is

1783
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 1: going to be the second overall pick to Washington. Now,

1784
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:38,559
Speaker 1: I've talked to some people that have some pretty good sources.

1785
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:42,240
Speaker 1: That's part of this. Also part of it is just

1786
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 1: looking at Cliff Kingsbury, you got to look at what

1787
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:48,560
Speaker 1: he's going to do with Washington. You also have to

1788
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 1: look at Washington's GM, where he came from San Francisco.

1789
01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:53,840
Speaker 1: What type of quarterback did San Francisco like. When you

1790
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:56,560
Speaker 1: start piecing all of it together, it actually makes a

1791
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 1: little bit of sense. And the hard part about that

1792
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 1: is none of us know. If anybody right now is

1793
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 1: telling you they've definitively figured out whether JJ McCarthy is

1794
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 1: going to be a good quarterback. I'd say that's impossible.

1795
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 1: We just didn't see enough of it. Now, I've talked

1796
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:16,040
Speaker 1: to some people that know scouting well, and they'll come

1797
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:17,760
Speaker 1: back and say, you know, the scouts have seen enough.

1798
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:20,560
Speaker 1: They'll find little cutups. There's been enough. Just because it

1799
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:23,679
Speaker 1: didn't happen over and over and over again doesn't mean

1800
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 1: that there isn't enough out there. And everybody wants to

1801
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 1: make this noise. But there's a difference between this noise

1802
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:34,360
Speaker 1: and will Levis's noise. I cannot stress that enough. I've

1803
01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 1: heard people talk about will Levis last year was presumed

1804
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:39,800
Speaker 1: to be the first overall pick, not by anybody that

1805
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 1: had a brain. I'm sorry. It's just this was a

1806
01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 1: Reddit rumor gone rogue, and all of a sudden people

1807
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:47,479
Speaker 1: tried to make something out of it. And one thing

1808
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:49,680
Speaker 1: you'll hear me say every single week all the way

1809
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 1: up until the NFL Draft, make your life simple. Talk

1810
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:55,960
Speaker 1: to people that cover college football. Hey, buddy that covered

1811
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 1: college football could have told you Will Levis wasn't going

1812
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 1: to be a top five draft pick. I say that

1813
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 1: this is different than Malik Willis, too, right, Malik Willis

1814
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 1: was a much different world, a much different body of work. B.

1815
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 1: There's all a different concept. This is different than Mac

1816
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:15,760
Speaker 1: Jones too. Guys that covered Alabama would have told you

1817
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 1: that Mac Jones was a reach. Trey Lance was a reach.

1818
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:20,880
Speaker 1: I was out of game day when Trey Lance was

1819
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 1: playing in college when we looked around nobody's standing there

1820
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 1: a game day at the time, said oh, yeah, this

1821
01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 1: kid's gonna be a top overall pick. Like sometimes you

1822
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 1: just gotta apply common sense to this whole thing. This

1823
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:37,479
Speaker 1: is very different because there isn't a resounding negative around JJ.

1824
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:42,960
Speaker 1: There's a resounding who knows. So now Washington's gonna look

1825
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:44,640
Speaker 1: in the mirror. They're gonna figure out what type of

1826
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 1: ice cream they like. That's what this comes down to.

1827
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:49,920
Speaker 1: Every one of these quarterbacks we're talking about is far

1828
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 1: different stylistically. Kayleb Williams is different than Drake May, is

1829
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 1: different than Jayden Daniels, is different than JJ McCarthy. And

1830
01:24:57,400 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're different people. I'm saying they're why

1831
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 1: different players all the way across the board. Every single

1832
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 1: one of them is very different than the other. So

1833
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 1: it's easy to look at it and say, well, maybe

1834
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:10,920
Speaker 1: they want somebody like Jayden. Maybe that makes the most

1835
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:14,720
Speaker 1: sense because of Kyler butt your you know, put your

1836
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 1: logicat on here for a second. Who is the one

1837
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:22,680
Speaker 1: outlier at quarterback for San Francisco Trey Lance? Where do

1838
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:24,840
Speaker 1: they have their success? What type of quarterback did that

1839
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 1: regime seemed to like? Jimmy g rock Perdy? All right,

1840
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 1: so now look at this current draft class and ask

1841
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 1: yourself which quarterback is closest to that style of play?

1842
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:42,400
Speaker 1: Kind of makes sense, right, So when you start looking

1843
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:44,519
Speaker 1: at all of this and you think about what quarterbacks

1844
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 1: are gonna do JJ at two. I mean, the more

1845
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:51,400
Speaker 1: I talk to people that know Washington in and out,

1846
01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:55,880
Speaker 1: the more they keep telling me this is real. The

1847
01:25:55,880 --> 01:26:00,120
Speaker 1: more I have to look at it and say, man, Okay,

1848
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:03,519
Speaker 1: Will Levis just was not going to be it. He

1849
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:05,680
Speaker 1: might turn out to be fine for Tennessee. I don't know.

1850
01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 1: I'm still not sold on Levis. Frankly, if I was

1851
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 1: the GM that had just taken over the Titans today,

1852
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:12,599
Speaker 1: if I got that job, I know Ran Carthur, it's

1853
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 1: been there a year. If I got the Titans job today,

1854
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:17,479
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that I'd be so willing to just

1855
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:19,760
Speaker 1: ignore this year's quarterback class, because I'm not sure Will

1856
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:23,240
Speaker 1: Levis is the answered or not. Who knows, But I

1857
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 1: do know that going into last year's draft. Covering last

1858
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:28,600
Speaker 1: year's draft, I never once thought Will Levis was a

1859
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 1: homeworn pick. When my beloved Raiders were on the clock,

1860
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:33,559
Speaker 1: one of the things I said on air is I

1861
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:36,479
Speaker 1: don't want it to be Will Levis. She just don't know.

1862
01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:39,439
Speaker 1: I didn't have a good feeling on that. Go back

1863
01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 1: and watch Kentucky play Vandy and try and explain to

1864
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:44,559
Speaker 1: me why he threw into triple coverage three different times

1865
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:48,479
Speaker 1: Coston Kentucky a football game. You just you got to

1866
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 1: look at the tape on some of this stuff. So

1867
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:53,599
Speaker 1: there's a difference between Wow, there's a lot of bad

1868
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:57,080
Speaker 1: tape out there on that kid, versus man, I don't know.

1869
01:26:57,479 --> 01:27:00,320
Speaker 1: He just hasn't been asked to do that. That's what

1870
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:04,120
Speaker 1: makes JJ so difficult. There'll be no grace or forgiveness

1871
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:06,640
Speaker 1: in this. By the way, if JJ turns out to

1872
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:08,679
Speaker 1: be a home run, it will be how did everybody

1873
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:10,680
Speaker 1: not see this coming? And if he turns out to

1874
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:12,840
Speaker 1: be terrible, it would be why did you reach on him?

1875
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:16,000
Speaker 1: And nobody will remember that I don't know of a quarterback.

1876
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 1: I've covered the draft for six years. I don't know

1877
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:20,680
Speaker 1: of a quarterback this high in the draft that's been

1878
01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 1: this much of a could be from smart people all

1879
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:27,880
Speaker 1: across the board. I'm not talking about one person. I'm

1880
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 1: talking about all of the draftnicks. People cannot agree on

1881
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy simply because the body of work is different.

1882
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 1: It's the best way to say it. And Figgie, as

1883
01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:43,080
Speaker 1: much as we've decided that one's going to be Caleb

1884
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:46,479
Speaker 1: and that two's going to be either Drake may or Jayden,

1885
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 1: and three is going to be whichever of those is

1886
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 1: left over, the more I talk to people that are

1887
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:53,800
Speaker 1: in the know around Washington, the more I'm starting to

1888
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:55,880
Speaker 1: believe that part of the reason the fourth pick in

1889
01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 1: the draft is going to be so tradable is Jaden

1890
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:01,920
Speaker 1: or Drake is going to be available at four. I

1891
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:05,640
Speaker 1: genuinely believe right now, hand to god, I believe the

1892
01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 1: first four picks in this year's NFL draft, Arizona will

1893
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 1: trade out. I think, but the first four picks in

1894
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 1: this year's draft will all be quarterbacks one, two, three, four,

1895
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 1: and the Chargers picking of five are going to have

1896
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:18,720
Speaker 1: their pick of the absolute best non quarterback in this

1897
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:19,479
Speaker 1: year's draft. Yep.

1898
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 2: And that's something that Jim Harball said at the owners

1899
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 2: meetings this past week. He says, you know what I mean,

1900
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:25,840
Speaker 2: We're fielding a lot of offers because we pretty much

1901
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:27,880
Speaker 2: have we believe that the top four picks are all

1902
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 2: going to be quarterbacks. We see ourselves as having the

1903
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:33,479
Speaker 2: de facto first overall pick of every position that's not

1904
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 2: a quarterback. So I don't disagree with a lot of

1905
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:38,440
Speaker 2: what you're saying. I will say, and look, I'm obviously

1906
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:40,320
Speaker 2: not a scout at all. I don't know if I

1907
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:42,560
Speaker 2: would take JJ McCarthy with a second overall pick, and

1908
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 2: if for talking all, I would, and we're talking about

1909
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 2: fits with schemes in Kingsbury and what he does. I

1910
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:48,960
Speaker 2: think bow Knicks is a better fit. I'm not saying

1911
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 2: I take bow Knicks with a second overall pick, but

1912
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:54,120
Speaker 2: rhythm and timing sort of offense, being able to make

1913
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:56,240
Speaker 2: short throws, he can throw deep, his armor stronger than

1914
01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:58,920
Speaker 2: McCarthy's as well. I think he's a better scheme fit

1915
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:01,599
Speaker 2: for what they do than J McCarthy is. Personally. Again,

1916
01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:03,800
Speaker 2: I am not a scout whatsoever. So I will defer

1917
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:07,320
Speaker 2: to what those guys are saying. But and you can't

1918
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 2: obviously can't operate out of fear. And this is one

1919
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 2: of the Bill Walsh, you know, Tennants was like, you know,

1920
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:12,640
Speaker 2: if there's a guy that you want to take, you

1921
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 2: place value on who you want to take. It doesn't

1922
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 2: matter where you take him, it matters how they perform.

1923
01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:18,800
Speaker 2: So I don't know if they take him there and

1924
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 2: he ends up being even if he's not a superstar quarterback,

1925
01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:24,320
Speaker 2: if you take him second overall, and say Jaydon Daniel

1926
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:26,599
Speaker 2: turns out to be a multiple time MVP, but JJ

1927
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:28,679
Speaker 2: McCarthy turns out to be a ten to twelve year starter,

1928
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:30,719
Speaker 2: makes a Pro Bowl or two and is a good player.

1929
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:32,760
Speaker 2: People will second guess it, but people are not going

1930
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:34,760
Speaker 2: to kill you over it. People are going to kill

1931
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:37,800
Speaker 2: you if he turns into miss Trubisky. And you know,

1932
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:40,800
Speaker 2: bo Nicks ends up turning into Deshaun Watson, you know,

1933
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 2: before his issues, you know, and one of these other

1934
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:46,000
Speaker 2: guys turns into Patrick Mahomes. And that's the great fear

1935
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:48,040
Speaker 2: of taking a guy who didn't have a lot of

1936
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 2: the hype coming into it all of a sudden he

1937
01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:52,800
Speaker 2: starts surging late, and for whatever reason, he shoots up

1938
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:54,840
Speaker 2: the draft boards and people, a lot of the lay

1939
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:57,280
Speaker 2: people and even some of the scouts are saying, huh,

1940
01:29:57,320 --> 01:29:59,720
Speaker 2: that's an interesting pick over a lot of the other

1941
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:01,920
Speaker 2: guy who most people assume we're going to be taken

1942
01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 2: before him previously.

1943
01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:06,240
Speaker 1: Now, one insider I talked to last week said the

1944
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:09,160
Speaker 1: most brilliant part of what Hardball is doing by continually

1945
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:11,519
Speaker 1: telling everybody how good JJ is, which by the way,

1946
01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:14,640
Speaker 1: is just they're so miss me. With all of that,

1947
01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:16,920
Speaker 1: there's got no skin in the game. He's not out

1948
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:19,559
Speaker 1: here trading Herbert so he can draft JJ. But what

1949
01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 1: he's doing is he's driving up value for another quarterback.

1950
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:24,840
Speaker 1: And if he can get quarterbacks to go one, two, three, four,

1951
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:27,800
Speaker 1: you're right that fifth overall pick. The Chargers have a

1952
01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 1: lot of need. Now, I would make life simple if

1953
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:31,519
Speaker 1: I was the Chargers, and I'd just sit there and

1954
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:33,479
Speaker 1: I take Joe Walt with the fifth overall pick, and

1955
01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:36,719
Speaker 1: I would make my offensive line drastically better by getting

1956
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:39,720
Speaker 1: a plug and play ten year offensive lineman. But if

1957
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:42,000
Speaker 1: the Chargers want to trade down, they'll be able to

1958
01:30:42,040 --> 01:30:44,840
Speaker 1: get some They'll be able to get some substantial value.

1959
01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:47,120
Speaker 1: If quarterbacks go one, two, three, four, and then it

1960
01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:50,360
Speaker 1: gets it gets kind of crazy because now you're suddenly

1961
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:53,960
Speaker 1: going to have whoever doesn't move up to four. And

1962
01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:56,519
Speaker 1: I think that probably means Denver and the Raiders are

1963
01:30:56,600 --> 01:31:00,559
Speaker 1: sitting there desperate for a quarterback. They've watched quarterbacks go one, two, three, four.

1964
01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:02,880
Speaker 1: They're gonna be trying to outbid each other to get

1965
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:06,680
Speaker 1: up to get the fifth best quarterback in this year. Like,

1966
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:09,840
Speaker 1: think about that. There's a difference between I gave up

1967
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 1: three first round draft picks to move up to number

1968
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:14,280
Speaker 1: two to take a quarterback, all right, if that's what

1969
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:17,960
Speaker 1: you want to do, fine, And Buffalo's GM was smart

1970
01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:20,400
Speaker 1: and saying nobody cares what you gave up because if

1971
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:22,320
Speaker 1: it works, nobody cares, and if it doesn't work, you're

1972
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:25,800
Speaker 1: fired either way. I understand that. But can we genuinely

1973
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:29,960
Speaker 1: justify as a as football minds in general, can you

1974
01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:34,080
Speaker 1: genuinely justify giving up three first rounders, which is what

1975
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:36,080
Speaker 1: some people think it's gonna take to move into the

1976
01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:39,920
Speaker 1: top seven or eight to get the fifth best quarterback. Like,

1977
01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:41,960
Speaker 1: there's a difference between bo Nicks fell to me on

1978
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:44,280
Speaker 1: the board and I'm gonna take my shot at twelve

1979
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:48,639
Speaker 1: or thirteen with him versus b Knicks cost me multiple

1980
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:50,960
Speaker 1: years of picks, and we might be in that world

1981
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:53,160
Speaker 1: this year, which is it just shows that we're two

1982
01:31:53,240 --> 01:31:54,280
Speaker 1: quarterback obsessed man.

1983
01:31:54,439 --> 01:31:57,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I remember getting into a debate with Anthony

1984
01:31:57,400 --> 01:32:00,120
Speaker 2: Oh last year you mentioned Will Levis because he was like, you,

1985
01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:03,120
Speaker 2: Levis shows all the talent. He really struggled really against Georgia,

1986
01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:05,200
Speaker 2: but who doesn't. And I was like, I just don't

1987
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:07,200
Speaker 2: see it, and like, I'm not going to take a

1988
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 2: quarterback in the first round, especially within the top ten. Now,

1989
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:11,840
Speaker 2: if you're talking about in the twenties or whatever, then

1990
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:15,040
Speaker 2: sure that these days at a first round pick in

1991
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:17,160
Speaker 2: the twenties is basically considered a high second round pick

1992
01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:20,160
Speaker 2: for all intents and purposes. But I'm not going to

1993
01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:21,960
Speaker 2: take a guy in the top ten, and I'm especially

1994
01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:23,240
Speaker 2: not going to trade up for a guy in the

1995
01:32:23,240 --> 01:32:26,040
Speaker 2: top ten unless I am absolutely convinced that this guy

1996
01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:28,680
Speaker 2: is going to be a franchise quarterback for me. If

1997
01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:32,519
Speaker 2: I have any reservations at all, I'm putting I can't

1998
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:34,800
Speaker 2: do it. I'm taking the best player available, I'm moving back.

1999
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:37,759
Speaker 2: I'm figuring something else out. You have too much invested

2000
01:32:37,800 --> 01:32:39,800
Speaker 2: in that position to be able to give up a

2001
01:32:39,840 --> 01:32:41,840
Speaker 2: draft pick for someone that you're not fully confident in,

2002
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:43,800
Speaker 2: and you say like, well, all the other good guys

2003
01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:46,480
Speaker 2: are going and there's a quote unquote run on quarterbacks,

2004
01:32:46,479 --> 01:32:48,600
Speaker 2: so we got to get one. I've never subscribed to

2005
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:50,599
Speaker 2: that theory, and I feel like teams generally who fall

2006
01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:54,479
Speaker 2: within that criteria ultimately end up progretting the decision that

2007
01:32:54,479 --> 01:32:54,840
Speaker 2: they make.

2008
01:32:57,080 --> 01:32:59,479
Speaker 1: It's so easy to look back and see the reaches

2009
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:02,559
Speaker 1: hard in the moment. Like you know, I remember being

2010
01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:05,120
Speaker 1: a little kid when Nostrodamus was like a big thing,

2011
01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:08,080
Speaker 1: you know, the guy that predicted all these different things

2012
01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:11,200
Speaker 1: in the world, And after every major event, they'd be like, well,

2013
01:33:11,200 --> 01:33:15,680
Speaker 1: you know this was actually predicted in this Nostrodamus pack passage.

2014
01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:18,320
Speaker 1: I always said at the time, I'm like, think about it.

2015
01:33:18,360 --> 01:33:20,680
Speaker 1: If we could read any of these in advance, I'll

2016
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:23,120
Speaker 1: take them seriously. If we're going to turn around after

2017
01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:25,520
Speaker 1: a huge event in the world and say, well, Nostrodamus

2018
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 1: predicted that, just look at these numbers. That's such revisionist history.

2019
01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:32,000
Speaker 1: What I can't figure out how we can't do better.

2020
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:35,080
Speaker 1: Is a football society is just taking the info we

2021
01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:39,080
Speaker 1: have and simply drafting the right guy. Like, I know

2022
01:33:39,160 --> 01:33:42,280
Speaker 1: that's over simplification, but everybody seems to think, well, I

2023
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:45,000
Speaker 1: can develop this guy, or I can change this one habit,

2024
01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:47,800
Speaker 1: or we can make up for this thing. It's the

2025
01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:49,800
Speaker 1: wildest part of all of this figure is that, like

2026
01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:52,800
Speaker 1: it's just we take simple and make it complicated because

2027
01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:56,320
Speaker 1: I think so often when when people like a prospect,

2028
01:33:56,520 --> 01:33:59,840
Speaker 1: they forgive whatever their problems are on tape. And that's

2029
01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:01,439
Speaker 1: happens every single year.

2030
01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:05,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you fall in love with the kid's personality or

2031
01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:08,160
Speaker 2: work ethic or the stuff that his coaches say about him,

2032
01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:09,840
Speaker 2: because they're not biased whatsoever.

2033
01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 3: You convince yourself, you know, if you have a glaring

2034
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:13,800
Speaker 3: need at a.

2035
01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:16,600
Speaker 2: Particular position, you convince yourself like, we know what, I

2036
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:18,800
Speaker 2: can cover up all these black marks against them. I

2037
01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:21,040
Speaker 2: can coach it out of them. Now sometimes you can.

2038
01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:24,439
Speaker 2: I use Josh Allen as an example the last segment.

2039
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:26,559
Speaker 2: You know a guy that had it was a great

2040
01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:29,519
Speaker 2: physical specimen but was inaccurate, had a strong arm.

2041
01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:31,439
Speaker 3: I thought he was Jake Locker two point zero.

2042
01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:34,280
Speaker 2: A lot of us did ended up falling in the

2043
01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:36,280
Speaker 2: right place with the right coach and Brian day Ball

2044
01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:38,680
Speaker 2: and has turned into one of the great quarterbacks we

2045
01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:39,840
Speaker 2: have in the league right now.

2046
01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:42,360
Speaker 3: But I think he is an exception to the rule.

2047
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:45,240
Speaker 2: And generally speaking, when you have those sorts of reaches,

2048
01:34:45,240 --> 01:34:47,559
Speaker 2: when a guy who just has potential and you know

2049
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:49,280
Speaker 2: he has a lot of holes, but you're desperate to

2050
01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:52,240
Speaker 2: take a player at a particular position, you know, ultimately

2051
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:55,320
Speaker 2: those general managers end up finding themselves on the street

2052
01:34:55,360 --> 01:34:56,519
Speaker 2: three four years down the road.

2053
01:34:56,920 --> 01:34:59,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Buffalo was patient. They didn't listen to any

2054
01:34:59,479 --> 01:35:01,720
Speaker 1: of the outside noise with Josh Allen. They brought him in.

2055
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:04,360
Speaker 1: They were patient in their development. There were plenty of

2056
01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:06,360
Speaker 1: people that said plenty of things that turned out to

2057
01:35:06,360 --> 01:35:08,200
Speaker 1: be wrong about Josh Allen. For the first couple of

2058
01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:11,040
Speaker 1: years he was in the league. Buffalo shut out the noise.

2059
01:35:11,120 --> 01:35:13,680
Speaker 1: I'm not sure every other franchise can do that. We'll

2060
01:35:13,720 --> 01:35:17,599
Speaker 1: keep the quarterback conversation going on the Fellas obviously as

2061
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:20,000
Speaker 1: we look at the draft, because there's one argument being

2062
01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:24,559
Speaker 1: made for JJ McCarthy that is absolutely hypocritical. I'll tell

2063
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:26,120
Speaker 1: you what it is next. I'm the Fellas, I'm Fox

2064
01:35:26,120 --> 01:35:30,320
Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Of all the things we evaluate when it

2065
01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:34,839
Speaker 1: comes to quarterbacks in the NFL draft, how much should

2066
01:35:34,920 --> 01:35:39,439
Speaker 1: winning matter? And why? Because it feels like we're starting

2067
01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:42,360
Speaker 1: to pick and choose context and when we want to

2068
01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:44,599
Speaker 1: give it to some players and when we don't want

2069
01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:47,360
Speaker 1: to give it to others. So, fellas, I'm Fox Sports Radio,

2070
01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:49,880
Speaker 1: I'm Jason fitz hanging out with Kevin Figures. We got Ian,

2071
01:35:49,960 --> 01:35:52,880
Speaker 1: we got Mighty Mark. We're broadcasting live from the ti

2072
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:57,080
Speaker 1: iraq dot com studios Fox Sports Saturday. And this is

2073
01:35:57,120 --> 01:35:59,240
Speaker 1: what I heard from somebody the other day talking about

2074
01:35:59,320 --> 01:36:01,840
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy. The question to me, what posed to me

2075
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:05,679
Speaker 1: by somebody smart, was at what point do wins matter?

2076
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:10,519
Speaker 1: And that's interesting, that's fine, but it is at least

2077
01:36:10,600 --> 01:36:13,080
Speaker 1: hypocritical in my mind to sit here and say at

2078
01:36:13,080 --> 01:36:16,120
Speaker 1: what point do wins matter? Like by the way, individuals

2079
01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:18,680
Speaker 1: are responsible for all wins in a team sport, but

2080
01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:22,200
Speaker 1: then also turning around to somebody like Jaden Daniels and saying, well,

2081
01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:24,840
Speaker 1: for all of his production, you have to account for

2082
01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:27,679
Speaker 1: the fact that he was playing with two NFL caliber

2083
01:36:27,680 --> 01:36:32,280
Speaker 1: wide receivers. Okay, so we're going to fault Jaden daniels

2084
01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:35,599
Speaker 1: production because he had NFL talent around him, but not

2085
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:39,200
Speaker 1: fault the winning of JJ McCarthy, who not only had

2086
01:36:39,320 --> 01:36:42,800
Speaker 1: NFL talent around him but obviously has an NFL coach, right, Like,

2087
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:45,320
Speaker 1: I mean, if Harball is good enough to come in

2088
01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:48,080
Speaker 1: and be the savior of the Chargers, he deserves some

2089
01:36:48,120 --> 01:36:51,160
Speaker 1: credit in this conversation too, right or was it all JJ? Like?

2090
01:36:51,520 --> 01:36:55,040
Speaker 1: It's the picking and choosing of arbitrary metrics that we

2091
01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:58,160
Speaker 1: don't assign to every quarterback, and then sometimes we assign

2092
01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:02,080
Speaker 1: to quarterbacks and other times we don't. That drives me crazy.

2093
01:37:02,200 --> 01:37:08,360
Speaker 1: And all I'm asking for in any of this is consistency. Like,

2094
01:37:08,840 --> 01:37:13,879
Speaker 1: this is one position, one position. I know it's played differently.

2095
01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:18,559
Speaker 1: I get it, and I get the different offenses require

2096
01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:21,920
Speaker 1: different things. But somebody try and explain to me why

2097
01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:26,120
Speaker 1: the hit rate on quarterbacks seems so drastically low compared

2098
01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:28,680
Speaker 1: to the hit rate on I don't know, wide receivers.

2099
01:37:29,080 --> 01:37:32,000
Speaker 1: It's same thing. A lot of different styles of wide receivers,

2100
01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:35,880
Speaker 1: a lot of different ways of wide receivers play their

2101
01:37:35,960 --> 01:37:40,720
Speaker 1: quarterbacks should certainly impact their production. Yet it seems like

2102
01:37:41,479 --> 01:37:44,360
Speaker 1: there is no position that is more hit and miss

2103
01:37:44,360 --> 01:37:47,960
Speaker 1: than quarterback. And maybe The reason is because everybody overdrafts.

2104
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:51,200
Speaker 1: Would you be a miss at the quarterback position if

2105
01:37:51,200 --> 01:37:54,080
Speaker 1: you were draft of fortieth? And how many times do

2106
01:37:54,120 --> 01:37:56,200
Speaker 1: we see this? We hear this every year from smart

2107
01:37:56,439 --> 01:37:59,240
Speaker 1: draft analysts. Smart draft analysts will come in and say, well,

2108
01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:01,080
Speaker 1: that guy was number twenty eight on my board but

2109
01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:07,320
Speaker 1: went number three overall. Why why if you take a swing?

2110
01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:10,160
Speaker 1: And I hear everybody yelling through their car radios right

2111
01:38:10,160 --> 01:38:12,400
Speaker 1: now because Raiders fans do this to me all the

2112
01:38:12,439 --> 01:38:14,920
Speaker 1: time as one of them, one of my own, right,

2113
01:38:15,120 --> 01:38:17,080
Speaker 1: I hear this all the time. At some point, you

2114
01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:21,240
Speaker 1: got to take a swing? Uh uh okay? To me,

2115
01:38:21,400 --> 01:38:23,959
Speaker 1: that's like, man, I don't know, man, I'm in my thirties.

2116
01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:27,559
Speaker 1: I feel like the biological clock is ticking. Don't really

2117
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:30,439
Speaker 1: love her all that much, but need to have kids,

2118
01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:34,400
Speaker 1: So here we go. How often does that work out?

2119
01:38:34,720 --> 01:38:39,200
Speaker 1: Taking a swing at the quarterback position is reckless. If

2120
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Speaker 1: you're wrong, you will set your franchise back at least

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Speaker 1: five years. You'll be firing everybody and you'll be back

2122
01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:51,080
Speaker 1: at square one. And if you're right, boy, you better

2123
01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:55,040
Speaker 1: be really right, not just sort of right, because inevitably,

2124
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:57,360
Speaker 1: if you're right, like if I told you right now

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01:38:58,120 --> 01:39:01,840
Speaker 1: that with the third overall pick the NFL Draft, the

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01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:05,479
Speaker 1: Patriots could draft somebody who had a career comparable to

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01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:09,760
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. Would that be enough? Because all I hear

2128
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:13,840
Speaker 1: every day is people trashing Dak? So what's the metric

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01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:17,080
Speaker 1: you got to draft? My homes? Is that like the

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01:39:17,120 --> 01:39:20,840
Speaker 1: only line of success? Now, boy, you better draft arguably

2131
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:25,760
Speaker 1: the greatest quarterback ever. Otherwise everything just doesn't matter. Hell

2132
01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:28,800
Speaker 1: are we doing? At some point? You just got to

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01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:32,400
Speaker 1: get proximity. You got to get into the playoffs, and

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01:39:32,439 --> 01:39:35,200
Speaker 1: if you consistently get into the playoffs, then he got

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01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:38,600
Speaker 1: a chance. And the best way to get proximity is

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01:39:38,640 --> 01:39:44,160
Speaker 1: to have a talented roster, not just a talented quarterback. Yes, yes,

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01:39:44,479 --> 01:39:46,840
Speaker 1: if you hit on quarterback and everything else is trash,

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01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:49,360
Speaker 1: you can will your way through it. So I understand

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01:39:49,439 --> 01:39:52,559
Speaker 1: the temptation, But man, that feels to me like you're

2140
01:39:52,560 --> 01:39:56,320
Speaker 1: paying your mortgage with scratch off lottery tickets. If you're

2141
01:39:56,320 --> 01:39:59,800
Speaker 1: sitting at twelve, thirteen, fourteen, you don't have a shot

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01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:02,040
Speaker 1: a quarterback in this year's draft. That is a you

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01:40:02,040 --> 01:40:04,559
Speaker 1: don't have a shot at the guy you love. If

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01:40:04,600 --> 01:40:07,759
Speaker 1: you are as a scouting staff obsessed with Kayleb Williams

2145
01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:11,799
Speaker 1: and he's gone at one. All right, should you mortgage

2146
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:14,360
Speaker 1: future years to take a stab at somebody that you

2147
01:40:14,479 --> 01:40:17,200
Speaker 1: kind of like? Or should you stay where you are

2148
01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:20,160
Speaker 1: and take the best player on the board. Should you

2149
01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:22,960
Speaker 1: help your entire roster? Should you help your team win

2150
01:40:23,040 --> 01:40:26,960
Speaker 1: football games? Right now? Figie, It drives me crazy because

2151
01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:31,120
Speaker 1: we become so obsessed with one thing, and then when

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01:40:31,120 --> 01:40:34,559
Speaker 1: that one person, when that one quarterback gets in, if

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01:40:34,560 --> 01:40:36,240
Speaker 1: they're not the greatest of all time, then it's a

2154
01:40:36,280 --> 01:40:38,559
Speaker 1: total waste and they're not worth the fifty million dollars

2155
01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:41,600
Speaker 1: they get paid. Like the entire process of quarterback evaluation

2156
01:40:41,800 --> 01:40:43,360
Speaker 1: is absolutely screwed at end.

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Speaker 3: Point the revision as history.

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Speaker 2: I knew we should have taken him anyway, Like, what

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Speaker 2: do you mean you're the idiot on TV screaming when

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01:40:48,320 --> 01:40:49,040
Speaker 2: they drafted him.

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Speaker 3: Come on, now, do you forget this happens all the time.

2162
01:40:53,160 --> 01:40:55,800
Speaker 2: And your point about the metrics always changing about well

2163
01:40:55,840 --> 01:40:57,720
Speaker 2: this guy doesn't win enough, Well, this guy played with

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01:40:57,760 --> 01:41:00,720
Speaker 2: a bunch of great players. It's an inexact science. Even

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01:41:00,760 --> 01:41:02,800
Speaker 2: with that, you know who else played with great receivers?

2166
01:41:03,200 --> 01:41:06,000
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow in college he's fine at the NFL level.

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01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:06,879
Speaker 3: You know who didn't.

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Speaker 2: Play with great receivers in college? Justin Herbert, He's fine

2169
01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:13,120
Speaker 2: at the NFL level. Hi, Patrick Mahomes wasn't a winner

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Speaker 2: at Texas Tech.

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Speaker 3: They're below five hundred.

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01:41:15,439 --> 01:41:17,519
Speaker 2: One of the greatest quarterbacks in the history of the sport,

2173
01:41:17,760 --> 01:41:21,120
Speaker 2: and his career is just getting started. So you can't

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Speaker 2: figure any of this stuff out. This is why the

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01:41:23,520 --> 01:41:25,720
Speaker 2: scouts and the general managers get paid as much money

2176
01:41:25,760 --> 01:41:28,040
Speaker 2: as they do to do all the background. Look at

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01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:30,400
Speaker 2: the tape and to your point, and I thought you

2178
01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:32,599
Speaker 2: brought this some This up amazingly fits the last segment.

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01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:35,600
Speaker 2: They get so enamored, falling in love with this is

2180
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:36,120
Speaker 2: what we need.

2181
01:41:36,160 --> 01:41:36,559
Speaker 1: We got it.

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Speaker 3: We could.

2183
01:41:36,840 --> 01:41:39,519
Speaker 2: They convince themselves that they have found the guy, even

2184
01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:41,360
Speaker 2: though they know in their heart of hearts the tape

2185
01:41:41,400 --> 01:41:44,400
Speaker 2: and their evaluations don't prove it out. They just end

2186
01:41:44,439 --> 01:41:47,400
Speaker 2: up taking someone on a hope and a prayer. It's

2187
01:41:47,479 --> 01:41:50,080
Speaker 2: just too important. All of this is way too important.

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01:41:50,280 --> 01:41:52,640
Speaker 2: I subscribe to the Tom Telesco theory. For years with

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01:41:52,720 --> 01:41:55,200
Speaker 2: the Chargers, there were times he got criticized, why would

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01:41:55,200 --> 01:41:57,120
Speaker 2: you draft Mike Williams And we already have Keenan Allen

2191
01:41:57,160 --> 01:41:58,080
Speaker 2: in the prime of his career.

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Speaker 3: He's like, I'm staying true to my board.

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01:42:00,120 --> 01:42:04,320
Speaker 2: Best player available, That's what I'm taking, regardless of need. Now, look,

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01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:07,240
Speaker 2: if we need a receiver and a linebacker and the

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01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:09,880
Speaker 2: linebackers rated a little bit higher, then we'll take the linebackers. Now,

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01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:11,880
Speaker 2: I thought I'd be crazy about it, but we're just

2197
01:42:11,880 --> 01:42:14,519
Speaker 2: not going to reach for a need position because we

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01:42:15,280 --> 01:42:17,559
Speaker 2: need that quarterback or need a certain position. We're just

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Speaker 2: gonna take the best player available on our board and

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01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:21,880
Speaker 2: revisit the other need later on. I think that's the

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Speaker 2: best way to run it. The most successful franchises do

2202
01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:28,240
Speaker 2: operate that way. You start mortgaging your future on a whim.

2203
01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:31,759
Speaker 2: You know, you set yourself up, like you mentioned, for failure,

2204
01:42:32,120 --> 01:42:33,880
Speaker 2: or even if you're the Cardinals, you decide to make

2205
01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:36,960
Speaker 2: the bold move of drafting Josh Rosen and cutting bait

2206
01:42:37,000 --> 01:42:39,920
Speaker 2: after one year, well it still sets you back. I mean,

2207
01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:42,639
Speaker 2: that was a top five pick that you essentially wasted.

2208
01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:45,480
Speaker 2: You could have gotten a better player with more production.

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Speaker 1: You know. And and the funny thing is we're going

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01:42:48,120 --> 01:42:50,559
Speaker 1: to get into this year's draft and the Cardinals are

2211
01:42:50,560 --> 01:42:53,000
Speaker 1: going to make it complicated. They're going to trade down

2212
01:42:53,160 --> 01:42:55,400
Speaker 1: because they want more equity, and they're going to pass

2213
01:42:56,000 --> 01:42:59,479
Speaker 1: on arguably the best wide receiver we can remember coming

2214
01:42:59,479 --> 01:43:01,840
Speaker 1: out in the draft. They're gonna pass on that, and

2215
01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:04,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna hope that they can move down, you know,

2216
01:43:04,240 --> 01:43:06,680
Speaker 1: to six or somewhere in that range and say I

2217
01:43:06,720 --> 01:43:08,200
Speaker 1: don't think they'll move all the way down to twelve

2218
01:43:08,280 --> 01:43:11,080
Speaker 1: or thirteen, but they're gonna make it complicated. I cannot

2219
01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:13,759
Speaker 1: say this loud enough. If you're the Chargers or the Titans,

2220
01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:16,280
Speaker 1: either one of those teams, and you have the opportunity

2221
01:43:16,520 --> 01:43:19,160
Speaker 1: for both of those teams that have offensive linemen needs,

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01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:21,280
Speaker 1: if you have the opportunity at Joe Walton, you don't

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01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:24,320
Speaker 1: take him. It's stupid, You are irresponsible, and you have

2224
01:43:24,360 --> 01:43:26,360
Speaker 1: done the wrong thing in the draft. I miss me

2225
01:43:26,479 --> 01:43:28,320
Speaker 1: with all the conversation of well, trade down and get

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01:43:28,360 --> 01:43:31,120
Speaker 1: future icho. Okay, what are we doing with that? It's

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01:43:31,160 --> 01:43:33,880
Speaker 1: all a crapshoot. I just I want everybody to step

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01:43:33,960 --> 01:43:36,240
Speaker 1: up and just start admitting, hell, if I know, we

2229
01:43:36,360 --> 01:43:38,479
Speaker 1: just took our best stab at it. Let's just see, like,

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01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:42,600
Speaker 1: as Raiders fans, for you and I, right now, the

2231
01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:46,639
Speaker 1: absolute best player on the Raiders roster is Max Crosby.

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01:43:46,720 --> 01:43:49,360
Speaker 1: I will die on that hill. Max Crosby was drafted

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01:43:49,640 --> 01:43:51,439
Speaker 1: in the fifth round, fourth, fifth round.

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Speaker 3: Five.

2235
01:43:52,640 --> 01:43:57,519
Speaker 1: Yes, So that means that the Raiders missed four times.

2236
01:43:57,720 --> 01:43:59,880
Speaker 1: If they had known that Max Crosby was going to

2237
01:43:59,920 --> 01:44:02,760
Speaker 1: be that good, they would have drafted him early. Nobody knew.

2238
01:44:02,920 --> 01:44:05,920
Speaker 1: Like just even admits your failures and your successes. Your

2239
01:44:06,240 --> 01:44:09,280
Speaker 1: successes are, man, we took a stab at it and

2240
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Speaker 1: we hit, And your failures are we took a stab

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01:44:11,439 --> 01:44:13,640
Speaker 1: at it and we didn't hit. But this, this concept

2242
01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:16,120
Speaker 1: of I'm going to do whatever it takes to get

2243
01:44:16,120 --> 01:44:19,639
Speaker 1: the quarterback, presumes that the quarterback's even there, right, And

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01:44:19,920 --> 01:44:22,280
Speaker 1: the Trevor Lawrence thing just sits in my crawl because

2245
01:44:22,720 --> 01:44:25,439
Speaker 1: we all sat here and said, can't miss, and now

2246
01:44:25,479 --> 01:44:26,960
Speaker 1: we don't even know if they're gonna pick up his

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01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:27,719
Speaker 1: fifth year option.

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01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:32,120
Speaker 2: How wild is that? Like generational talent? They were calling

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01:44:32,200 --> 01:44:36,240
Speaker 2: him Andrew Luck some people were comparing him to and

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Speaker 2: now he's he's like I said, he's maybe ab above

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Speaker 2: slightly above average.

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01:44:42,240 --> 01:44:45,559
Speaker 1: That's just man. When you when you put it that way,

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01:44:45,680 --> 01:44:50,280
Speaker 1: it's a reminder that all of this is just so wild.

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01:44:50,320 --> 01:44:51,640
Speaker 1: We'll keep breaking it down. We've got to get some

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Speaker 1: trending in here where Fox Sports Saturday Live from the

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Speaker 3: All right well.

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Speaker 2: In college basketball Friday night, Tennessee outlasted Creighton eighty two

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Speaker 2: to seventy five, advancing to the Elite eight and a

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01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:21,839
Speaker 2: matchup with Purdue, who got twenty seven points in fourteen

2266
01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:24,559
Speaker 2: boards from Zach Edy and a blowout win over again

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01:45:24,640 --> 01:45:27,760
Speaker 2: Zaga dukeld on to beat Houston fifty four to fifty one.

2268
01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:30,160
Speaker 2: As the Cougar has lost a star point guard Jamal

2269
01:45:30,200 --> 01:45:32,439
Speaker 2: shed in the first half to a severe ankle sprain.

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01:45:32,800 --> 01:45:35,920
Speaker 2: Blue Devils will face acc rival in c State, the

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01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:38,160
Speaker 2: upstart eleven seed out of the South Region, who picked

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01:45:38,200 --> 01:45:40,519
Speaker 2: up a sixty seven to fifty eight upset win over

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Speaker 2: second seat at Marquette. On the women's side, South Carolina

2274
01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:46,200
Speaker 2: remains unbeaten. They move on to the Elite eight. You

2275
01:45:46,280 --> 01:45:48,719
Speaker 2: had wins for n C State, Oregon State, and Texas.

2276
01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:51,599
Speaker 2: There in the NBA, Dallas defeated Sacramento one oh seven

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01:45:51,640 --> 01:45:54,479
Speaker 2: to one oh three. Shamscharania of The Athletic reporting that

2278
01:45:54,600 --> 01:45:57,439
Speaker 2: King's fearing guard Malik Monk may have suffered a sprain

2279
01:45:57,680 --> 01:45:59,839
Speaker 2: mcl in the lost Friday Night Houston.

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01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:00,960
Speaker 3: It's eleventh in a row.

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01:46:01,160 --> 01:46:03,719
Speaker 2: Couldn't not gain ground on the Golden State Warriors, however,

2282
01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:08,280
Speaker 2: they want in Charlotte. Victories for Oklahoma City, Minnesota and Cleveland.

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01:46:08,640 --> 01:46:09,760
Speaker 3: Back to the Fellas.

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Speaker 1: As a Fellas, I'm Fox Sports Radio. He's Kevin Figures,

2285
01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:16,200
Speaker 1: I'm Jason Fitz. We got Ian, we got Mighty Mark

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Speaker 1: Roll hanging out with you, Fox Sports Saturday Live from

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Speaker 1: ti iraq dot com Studios. Let me ask you this,

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01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:24,880
Speaker 1: Kayleb Williams, I think we're all clear. Kayla Williams is

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01:46:24,920 --> 01:46:26,880
Speaker 1: going to be the first pick in the draft. I

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01:46:26,920 --> 01:46:28,640
Speaker 1: would make him the first pick in the draft. For

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01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:31,439
Speaker 1: all that I'm saying about quarterbacks. By the way, Figgie,

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01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:33,680
Speaker 1: I would if I was Washington, I would take a

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01:46:33,800 --> 01:46:35,960
Speaker 1: quarterback in two because it's not costing me anything for

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01:46:36,040 --> 01:46:38,680
Speaker 1: my future, and I'm right there to try and take

2295
01:46:38,680 --> 01:46:40,439
Speaker 1: a stab. I don't have to I don't have to reach,

2296
01:46:40,520 --> 01:46:42,920
Speaker 1: I don't have to do anything. I can trust my analysis.

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01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:45,280
Speaker 1: I can take whoever I want out of that. For me,

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01:46:45,400 --> 01:46:48,320
Speaker 1: it would be either Jayden Daniels or Drake May. It

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Speaker 1: would not be JJ McCarthy, although, as I said earlier,

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01:46:51,920 --> 01:46:55,880
Speaker 1: more and more I'm hearing and leaning that Washington is

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01:46:55,920 --> 01:46:57,880
Speaker 1: going to go JJ McCarthy, whether I would do that

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01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:00,799
Speaker 1: or not. The interesting thing to me comes New England,

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01:47:00,920 --> 01:47:03,080
Speaker 1: because New England has a ton of holes, right, Like

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01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:07,080
Speaker 1: they're not going to fix anything, but man, they've got

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01:47:07,080 --> 01:47:10,920
Speaker 1: a shot at getting a generational, talented three. So it

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01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:14,320
Speaker 1: feels like quarterback does sort of make sense for New England.

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01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:17,160
Speaker 1: But also when you need as many things as New

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01:47:17,160 --> 01:47:20,519
Speaker 1: England needs, I guess I just I'm so risk averse

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01:47:20,560 --> 01:47:22,799
Speaker 1: with some of this stuff. I would have no problem

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01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:25,120
Speaker 1: with New England bucking the trend and just saying, you know,

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01:47:25,160 --> 01:47:27,760
Speaker 1: what best player available on our board happens to be

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01:47:28,600 --> 01:47:31,360
Speaker 1: insert here, whether it's Marvin Rrison Junior or Joe Walt, Like, yeah,

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01:47:31,400 --> 01:47:34,200
Speaker 1: the best player available on my board is an offensive Lineman,

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01:47:34,240 --> 01:47:35,280
Speaker 1: I'm going on line again.

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01:47:35,320 --> 01:47:37,720
Speaker 2: It goes back to unless I am thoroughly convinced that

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01:47:37,800 --> 01:47:40,800
Speaker 2: whether it's Drake may or Jade Daniels, is Mike, because look,

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01:47:41,240 --> 01:47:44,200
Speaker 2: a great quarterback and cover up almost any and all

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01:47:44,200 --> 01:47:46,040
Speaker 2: holes that you have on the remainder of your roster.

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Speaker 3: We do know that.

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01:47:47,360 --> 01:47:50,080
Speaker 2: So now the problem is fits if you're not convinced

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Speaker 2: that one of those guys available, if you have any

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01:47:52,360 --> 01:47:55,720
Speaker 2: reservations whatsoever, that he can be a franchise guy that

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01:47:55,880 --> 01:47:58,800
Speaker 2: needs a project, maybe infant, but we can work with

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01:47:58,880 --> 01:48:00,720
Speaker 2: him and he can fix this and we can fix that,

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01:48:00,800 --> 01:48:02,519
Speaker 2: and he may not fit our system well enough, but

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Speaker 2: we can tweet. No, everything has to line up the

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01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:07,479
Speaker 2: way that you have to have a full on vision

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01:48:07,479 --> 01:48:09,120
Speaker 2: as to what he's gonna help, what he's gonna play

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Speaker 2: like in your system.

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Speaker 3: And if you can't figure that out, then I'm with you, take.

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01:48:12,439 --> 01:48:14,920
Speaker 2: The best player available and figure the quarterback position out later,

2332
01:48:14,960 --> 01:48:17,360
Speaker 2: because you know what, somebody who fits what you do

2333
01:48:17,720 --> 01:48:20,400
Speaker 2: might be available in the fifth round and he might

2334
01:48:20,439 --> 01:48:22,760
Speaker 2: not be as quote unquote talented, but he might be

2335
01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:25,880
Speaker 2: a better fit. And I think that's you know, ultimately,

2336
01:48:26,120 --> 01:48:28,600
Speaker 2: the job of the general manager, being in sync with

2337
01:48:28,640 --> 01:48:31,479
Speaker 2: the coaching staff and knowing what the player does, how

2338
01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:33,799
Speaker 2: they accentuate what you're trying to do from an offensive

2339
01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:36,040
Speaker 2: and a defensive standpoint, and how they fit into your scheme.

2340
01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:38,479
Speaker 2: Not well, this guy's the most talented guy available and

2341
01:48:38,479 --> 01:48:40,280
Speaker 2: it fits the need, so let's go ahead and grab him.

2342
01:48:40,720 --> 01:48:44,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's it's interesting to me because when you

2343
01:48:44,160 --> 01:48:48,240
Speaker 1: think about sort of the process of being that franchise quarterback,

2344
01:48:48,640 --> 01:48:52,679
Speaker 1: you're so right that a quarterback can fix so many things.

2345
01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:56,559
Speaker 1: But also, as I've said numerous times, the forty nine

2346
01:48:56,680 --> 01:48:59,479
Speaker 1: ers are such a rare exception. They trade it up,

2347
01:48:59,479 --> 01:49:02,280
Speaker 1: they leverage their future on a quarterback, and they were wrong.

2348
01:49:02,760 --> 01:49:06,040
Speaker 1: And because they've done everything else the right way, they

2349
01:49:06,080 --> 01:49:09,360
Speaker 1: survived that and then they got lucky. They got lucky

2350
01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:12,320
Speaker 1: on brock Party. I think we could just acknowledge if

2351
01:49:12,360 --> 01:49:14,760
Speaker 1: you're picking somebody at mister Relevant and they turn out

2352
01:49:14,760 --> 01:49:17,280
Speaker 1: to be a starting quarterback in the Super Bowl, you

2353
01:49:17,320 --> 01:49:20,720
Speaker 1: got lucky. That's fine, that's fine, But do any of

2354
01:49:20,760 --> 01:49:24,400
Speaker 1: us really believe that brock Party would be brock Party

2355
01:49:24,520 --> 01:49:27,479
Speaker 1: right now if he was starting for the Panthers, right

2356
01:49:27,680 --> 01:49:30,840
Speaker 1: So that's part of this process too, is like, one

2357
01:49:30,840 --> 01:49:33,040
Speaker 1: thing that I think we gloss over when we look

2358
01:49:33,040 --> 01:49:36,680
Speaker 1: at the forty nine ers track is that from the outset,

2359
01:49:37,080 --> 01:49:40,080
Speaker 1: Shanahan and Lynch were given six year contracts, which at

2360
01:49:40,080 --> 01:49:43,200
Speaker 1: the time was unprecedented, and they were given time impatience

2361
01:49:43,240 --> 01:49:45,600
Speaker 1: to grow the way they needed to grow. When you

2362
01:49:45,760 --> 01:49:48,120
Speaker 1: know you're going to be there for a minute, it

2363
01:49:48,160 --> 01:49:50,840
Speaker 1: allows you to handle things differently and it allows you

2364
01:49:50,920 --> 01:49:53,080
Speaker 1: to be a little bit more patient in your construction.

2365
01:49:54,240 --> 01:49:58,200
Speaker 1: It's possible Jaden Daniels would absolutely be a home run.

2366
01:49:58,439 --> 01:50:00,840
Speaker 1: It's also possible that he wouldn't be. And if they

2367
01:50:00,840 --> 01:50:04,280
Speaker 1: don't believe that with great conviction, right by taking the

2368
01:50:04,320 --> 01:50:07,120
Speaker 1: best player, they're at least putting themselves in a situation where,

2369
01:50:07,160 --> 01:50:08,960
Speaker 1: even if they're not in a spot where they can

2370
01:50:09,040 --> 01:50:11,880
Speaker 1: draft the top quarterback next year or the year after,

2371
01:50:11,960 --> 01:50:14,360
Speaker 1: even if they're not there, they have a roster that's

2372
01:50:14,479 --> 01:50:17,920
Speaker 1: better capable of supporting whatever quarterback they draft. Right Like,

2373
01:50:18,600 --> 01:50:20,760
Speaker 1: whoever goes to New England right now is going to

2374
01:50:20,800 --> 01:50:24,000
Speaker 1: a team that feels like they just have holes everywhere.

2375
01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:26,160
Speaker 1: So it's already gonna be a daunting task. If they

2376
01:50:26,240 --> 01:50:29,160
Speaker 1: love the guy great, if they're truly committed to him

2377
01:50:29,160 --> 01:50:31,880
Speaker 1: and say, yeah, I will bet my ability to feed

2378
01:50:31,960 --> 01:50:35,320
Speaker 1: my family on this kid, because that's what we're talking about. Like,

2379
01:50:35,400 --> 01:50:37,439
Speaker 1: if you can look at your wife and kids and say,

2380
01:50:37,439 --> 01:50:39,960
Speaker 1: you know what, I believe in this quarterback so much

2381
01:50:40,240 --> 01:50:42,600
Speaker 1: that we're gonna draft him and I'm still gonna be

2382
01:50:42,640 --> 01:50:44,400
Speaker 1: able to keep this house. I'm gonna be able to

2383
01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:46,760
Speaker 1: feed my family, That's what we're talking about. You missed

2384
01:50:46,760 --> 01:50:48,840
Speaker 1: a quarterback in the first round, you're getting fired. You

2385
01:50:48,920 --> 01:50:52,960
Speaker 1: miss it almost any other position, you're gonna be okay, right, So, like,

2386
01:50:53,240 --> 01:50:55,599
Speaker 1: to me, that's so much of this has to be

2387
01:50:55,640 --> 01:50:58,719
Speaker 1: about the conviction has to be can't miss, no doubt,

2388
01:50:58,720 --> 01:51:02,080
Speaker 1: on the human being, on the player, on the situation,

2389
01:51:02,520 --> 01:51:05,320
Speaker 1: on what's surrounding him. That's there's so many variables.

2390
01:51:05,479 --> 01:51:08,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think your point of having stability at the

2391
01:51:08,040 --> 01:51:11,040
Speaker 2: head coach and general manager position means a lot because

2392
01:51:11,040 --> 01:51:13,840
Speaker 2: people forget. People think that Kyle Shannyan got hired and

2393
01:51:13,880 --> 01:51:15,840
Speaker 2: they just you know, went off and started going to

2394
01:51:15,880 --> 01:51:18,720
Speaker 2: Super Bowls and winning division shot titles. They had a

2395
01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:21,880
Speaker 2: like six win season, a five win season, but for

2396
01:51:21,880 --> 01:51:23,479
Speaker 2: the year they went to the super Bowl the first

2397
01:51:23,479 --> 01:51:25,080
Speaker 2: time and lost to Kansas City. He was on the

2398
01:51:25,080 --> 01:51:26,720
Speaker 2: hot seat going into that year, because I think that

2399
01:51:26,800 --> 01:51:29,599
Speaker 2: was year three and they really hadn't shown any fruits yet,

2400
01:51:29,880 --> 01:51:31,880
Speaker 2: they had done nothing. They traded for Jimmy g towards

2401
01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:33,760
Speaker 2: the end of the previous season and they were like,

2402
01:51:33,800 --> 01:51:36,080
Speaker 2: all right, let's show us what you got. So but

2403
01:51:36,120 --> 01:51:38,479
Speaker 2: that allowed them to spend first round picks on Nick

2404
01:51:38,520 --> 01:51:41,240
Speaker 2: Bosa and kin Law and get Brandon I Yuk in

2405
01:51:41,280 --> 01:51:43,719
Speaker 2: the first round and all of a sudden, to your point,

2406
01:51:43,880 --> 01:51:45,519
Speaker 2: you take a chance on a tree Lance, Well, it

2407
01:51:45,560 --> 01:51:47,799
Speaker 2: doesn't mean as much because you were able to find,

2408
01:51:48,040 --> 01:51:50,800
Speaker 2: you know, other players like Deebo Samuel, you know, like

2409
01:51:50,880 --> 01:51:51,479
Speaker 2: Fred Warner.

2410
01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:52,120
Speaker 3: You were able to.

2411
01:51:52,080 --> 01:51:54,479
Speaker 2: Build a good enough roster to where you can make

2412
01:51:54,520 --> 01:51:57,280
Speaker 2: a mistake and it wouldn't end up hurting you. Now,

2413
01:51:57,280 --> 01:51:58,920
Speaker 2: a lot of two teams won't have the sort of

2414
01:51:58,960 --> 01:52:00,519
Speaker 2: runway to be able to do that. But it also

2415
01:52:00,600 --> 01:52:03,280
Speaker 2: stresses the importance on being able to build your team

2416
01:52:03,320 --> 01:52:05,960
Speaker 2: through the draft, not necessarily having to rely on your

2417
01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:08,800
Speaker 2: first round picks, but finding the depth, finding the Max

2418
01:52:08,840 --> 01:52:11,880
Speaker 2: Crosby's I mentioned, finding the Fred Warners. They're really good

2419
01:52:11,880 --> 01:52:14,880
Speaker 2: teams are the ones who don't necessarily pay off with

2420
01:52:14,920 --> 01:52:17,040
Speaker 2: their high draft picks, but are the ones that find

2421
01:52:17,160 --> 01:52:20,719
Speaker 2: and really fortify their rosters in the third, fourth, fifth rounds.

2422
01:52:20,840 --> 01:52:24,479
Speaker 2: People criticize Bill Belichick and not being able to draft, well, well,

2423
01:52:24,560 --> 01:52:26,880
Speaker 2: yeah in round one and two. Look at the bulk

2424
01:52:26,920 --> 01:52:28,800
Speaker 2: of his rosters over the last twenty years and how

2425
01:52:28,840 --> 01:52:30,880
Speaker 2: well they've played. Usually it's because of the guys they

2426
01:52:31,000 --> 01:52:33,800
Speaker 2: drafted late, the undrafted free agents. How many undrafted free

2427
01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:35,880
Speaker 2: agents where it turned out to be great players for

2428
01:52:35,920 --> 01:52:36,560
Speaker 2: the Patriots.

2429
01:52:36,800 --> 01:52:38,280
Speaker 3: That's where the true value comes in.

2430
01:52:38,880 --> 01:52:40,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're one thousand percent right. And by the way,

2431
01:52:41,120 --> 01:52:44,120
Speaker 1: for context, I pulled it up year one, Kyle Shannan

2432
01:52:44,240 --> 01:52:47,759
Speaker 1: and John Lynch, six and ten, Year two, four and twelve,

2433
01:52:48,080 --> 01:52:51,080
Speaker 1: Year three, thirteen and three in the Super Bowl year four,

2434
01:52:51,680 --> 01:52:56,679
Speaker 1: six and ten. How many organizations would a cut bait

2435
01:52:56,720 --> 01:52:58,360
Speaker 1: at that point. I don't care about the Super Bowl

2436
01:52:58,360 --> 01:53:01,600
Speaker 1: aspective it or not. If you've got three out of

2437
01:53:01,600 --> 01:53:04,360
Speaker 1: four years where you are double digit losses since then,

2438
01:53:04,439 --> 01:53:07,519
Speaker 1: ten and seven, thirteen and four to twelve and five, right, Like,

2439
01:53:07,920 --> 01:53:11,160
Speaker 1: there's just been an element to their roster construction that

2440
01:53:11,240 --> 01:53:14,639
Speaker 1: I think has been absolutely brilliant. And that's just real.

2441
01:53:15,280 --> 01:53:19,639
Speaker 1: They have done a beautiful job with their entire roster,

2442
01:53:19,800 --> 01:53:21,920
Speaker 1: and as a result, they were able to miss at

2443
01:53:21,920 --> 01:53:25,240
Speaker 1: the quarterback position and get lucky at the quarterback position.

2444
01:53:25,320 --> 01:53:28,240
Speaker 1: And now it looks like they're probably pretty set at

2445
01:53:28,240 --> 01:53:31,760
Speaker 1: the quarterback position, right Like. So, it's just such a

2446
01:53:31,840 --> 01:53:35,680
Speaker 1: different mentality when you're not walking in from day one,

2447
01:53:35,720 --> 01:53:38,599
Speaker 1: to use a baseball analogy, trying to hit home runs

2448
01:53:38,600 --> 01:53:40,759
Speaker 1: and it said, you're like, hey, just gonna hit a single.

2449
01:53:40,880 --> 01:53:43,679
Speaker 1: This is right here for me. I'm just gonna take

2450
01:53:44,040 --> 01:53:45,920
Speaker 1: what's in front of us, and we're gonna make our

2451
01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:50,400
Speaker 1: roster better today. I believe every single team, every single

2452
01:53:50,439 --> 01:53:53,040
Speaker 1: fan of every single team should sit back as they

2453
01:53:53,080 --> 01:53:55,600
Speaker 1: get ready for the draft and have one wish that

2454
01:53:55,680 --> 01:53:58,839
Speaker 1: their team get better in the draft. It sounds stupid

2455
01:53:59,120 --> 01:54:01,479
Speaker 1: and it sounds simple, but we all lose that because

2456
01:54:01,479 --> 01:54:04,360
Speaker 1: it becomes known or no, no, no, we gotta get that quarterback.

2457
01:54:05,560 --> 01:54:07,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, and how often does it end up working out

2458
01:54:07,560 --> 01:54:10,800
Speaker 2: in their favor less than fifty percent of the time.

2459
01:54:12,160 --> 01:54:16,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all of it just feels so frustrating for

2460
01:54:16,280 --> 01:54:19,479
Speaker 1: everybody involved. Not frustrating as the Fox Sports Radio bracket challenge.

2461
01:54:19,560 --> 01:54:20,800
Speaker 1: I think I already told you about it, but I'm

2462
01:54:20,800 --> 01:54:22,559
Speaker 1: gonna tell you anyway, it's in front of me again,

2463
01:54:22,600 --> 01:54:24,720
Speaker 1: so we're just gonna do this again. It's live. See

2464
01:54:24,720 --> 01:54:27,320
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Speaker 1: where college Fans stay. Coming up next on Fox Sports

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01:54:35,800 --> 01:54:39,800
Speaker 1: Saturday Live from the Tierraq dot Com studios. I'm quarterback

2469
01:54:39,840 --> 01:54:42,280
Speaker 1: obsessed right now. Here's the question. If I told you

2470
01:54:42,320 --> 01:54:45,600
Speaker 1: that your favorite team could draft somebody that would be

2471
01:54:45,640 --> 01:54:50,200
Speaker 1: as successful as Dak, you'd be freaking out. So why

2472
01:54:50,280 --> 01:54:53,280
Speaker 1: is everybody freaking out about negatives around Dak? Well? Answer it?

2473
01:54:53,320 --> 01:54:56,920
Speaker 1: Next on the Fellas, I'm Fox Sports Radio Welcome back

2474
01:54:56,920 --> 01:54:59,200
Speaker 1: in where the Fellas live from the tire rack dot

2475
01:54:59,240 --> 01:55:04,920
Speaker 1: Com studio. Chaseing Fits hanging out with Figuie got Ian

2476
01:55:05,400 --> 01:55:12,560
Speaker 1: got mighty Mark. Here's the thing. The quarterback conversation is

2477
01:55:12,640 --> 01:55:16,600
Speaker 1: just a no win situation, y'all. I'm sitting here watching

2478
01:55:16,680 --> 01:55:19,760
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins get paid, and when he gets paid, Vikings

2479
01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:22,200
Speaker 1: fans are like, goodbye and good riddance. We were never

2480
01:55:22,200 --> 01:55:25,120
Speaker 1: gonna win with him. Okay, who's your quarterback? Now? We're

2481
01:55:25,160 --> 01:55:27,960
Speaker 1: gonna trade up and get somebody. All right, if you

2482
01:55:28,480 --> 01:55:30,480
Speaker 1: trade up and get somebody and they have a career

2483
01:55:30,520 --> 01:55:33,600
Speaker 1: at the level of Kirk Cousins, probably be pretty happy.

2484
01:55:34,280 --> 01:55:39,440
Speaker 1: I'm watching this entire Dak saga play out, and I'm

2485
01:55:39,480 --> 01:55:41,160
Speaker 1: here and everybody say, well, you can't pay and you

2486
01:55:41,200 --> 01:55:44,720
Speaker 1: can't pay them, someboy's gonna pay him. Remember, Dak's contract

2487
01:55:44,760 --> 01:55:47,400
Speaker 1: specifically says he cannot be franchised and he has no

2488
01:55:47,440 --> 01:55:50,040
Speaker 1: trade class. So if they don't get a contract deal

2489
01:55:50,080 --> 01:55:54,200
Speaker 1: this year, he's gonna be on the open market. So

2490
01:55:54,280 --> 01:55:57,200
Speaker 1: you want to tell me a team like the Vikings,

2491
01:55:57,200 --> 01:56:00,320
Speaker 1: Broncos Raiders that don't have a clear paw that their

2492
01:56:00,400 --> 01:56:02,080
Speaker 1: quarterback this year may not be able to get one.

2493
01:56:02,120 --> 01:56:04,040
Speaker 1: If they don't, you want to tell me one of

2494
01:56:04,040 --> 01:56:07,440
Speaker 1: those teams won't turn around and give him whatever it takes.

2495
01:56:07,720 --> 01:56:09,360
Speaker 3: The Giants and Division wouldn't do it.

2496
01:56:09,680 --> 01:56:13,000
Speaker 1: Oh God, you're right. The Giants come on and then

2497
01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:14,720
Speaker 1: people are gonna turn around and say, well, you can't

2498
01:56:14,720 --> 01:56:17,120
Speaker 1: pay him that much money. He was an MVP candidate

2499
01:56:17,200 --> 01:56:21,000
Speaker 1: last year. Here's an MVP can if you tell me

2500
01:56:21,360 --> 01:56:23,880
Speaker 1: the Jaden Daniels turns out to be as quality a

2501
01:56:23,920 --> 01:56:27,800
Speaker 1: quarterback as Dak is that's a home run. So like

2502
01:56:27,840 --> 01:56:32,240
Speaker 1: everybody's drafting guys hoping that they can be mahomes, is

2503
01:56:32,280 --> 01:56:34,280
Speaker 1: not the only standard because like I'm looking over Dak

2504
01:56:34,320 --> 01:56:36,400
Speaker 1: and I'm telling you right now, Dak is going to

2505
01:56:36,480 --> 01:56:39,600
Speaker 1: have a massive mark. If the Cowboys choose not to

2506
01:56:39,720 --> 01:56:42,600
Speaker 1: re sign Dak, that's fine. Dak will be going into

2507
01:56:42,600 --> 01:56:45,640
Speaker 1: next year at thirty one years old with several good

2508
01:56:45,720 --> 01:56:49,400
Speaker 1: years left, and he will get epic, incredible money. Like

2509
01:56:49,440 --> 01:56:52,880
Speaker 1: I will toot my own horned corn here, figgie, I

2510
01:56:52,920 --> 01:56:56,560
Speaker 1: told everybody that Kirk Cousins was gonna get substantial money.

2511
01:56:56,960 --> 01:56:59,280
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I'm telling you right now, if Dak

2512
01:56:59,320 --> 01:57:01,440
Speaker 1: hits the open mind market next year, he will get

2513
01:57:01,480 --> 01:57:03,920
Speaker 1: fifty million a year. You know, they won't even.

2514
01:57:03,720 --> 01:57:06,120
Speaker 2: Blink because for a lot of people, and especially the

2515
01:57:06,120 --> 01:57:09,040
Speaker 2: Cowboys because we talk about him so often, the standard

2516
01:57:09,240 --> 01:57:11,600
Speaker 2: is so high. It's you know why you get to

2517
01:57:11,600 --> 01:57:13,160
Speaker 2: the playoffs, you get to the wild card of the

2518
01:57:13,160 --> 01:57:15,120
Speaker 2: divisional round and you lose every single year.

2519
01:57:16,000 --> 01:57:17,200
Speaker 3: A lot of teams will take that.

2520
01:57:17,480 --> 01:57:19,880
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, there have been some teams

2521
01:57:19,880 --> 01:57:22,160
Speaker 2: with that had quarterback play that has been so bad

2522
01:57:22,560 --> 01:57:25,480
Speaker 2: for so long, like the ability to be a perennial

2523
01:57:25,480 --> 01:57:28,120
Speaker 2: playoff contender, because really, what you're trying to do is

2524
01:57:28,160 --> 01:57:30,200
Speaker 2: get you give yourself the opportunity to just make it

2525
01:57:30,240 --> 01:57:32,480
Speaker 2: every single year because you know who else who hasn't

2526
01:57:32,480 --> 01:57:35,320
Speaker 2: want it? Josh Allen. I'm not saying that Dak Prescott

2527
01:57:35,360 --> 01:57:37,200
Speaker 2: is better than Josh Allen. They're just a lot of

2528
01:57:37,200 --> 01:57:39,080
Speaker 2: factors that have going to why a team does and

2529
01:57:39,160 --> 01:57:41,840
Speaker 2: doesn't win. Dak has had his shortcomings at times, but

2530
01:57:41,880 --> 01:57:44,760
Speaker 2: they haven't always only lost because it's him, it's his fault.

2531
01:57:44,840 --> 01:57:46,840
Speaker 2: So there are a lot of teams that would love

2532
01:57:46,840 --> 01:57:49,240
Speaker 2: to have a quarterback the caliber of Dak Prescott as

2533
01:57:49,280 --> 01:57:53,240
Speaker 2: their starter, knowing it enhances their ability to make the postseason.

2534
01:57:53,480 --> 01:57:55,839
Speaker 3: And then once you get in, who knows what happens.

2535
01:57:56,160 --> 01:57:58,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it was Marino a bum because he only

2536
01:57:58,120 --> 01:58:00,920
Speaker 1: got to one Super Bowl, like right do now? And

2537
01:58:01,000 --> 01:58:03,200
Speaker 1: the funny thing is last year, at this time, I

2538
01:58:03,240 --> 01:58:06,080
Speaker 1: was getting into arguments with coworkers about the Bills because

2539
01:58:06,120 --> 01:58:09,080
Speaker 1: everybody said, oh, the Bills, they're no good, and it's like, well,

2540
01:58:09,200 --> 01:58:12,160
Speaker 1: there are two separate conversations. The Bills need to figure

2541
01:58:12,160 --> 01:58:13,880
Speaker 1: out how to break through the Chiefs. They still haven't

2542
01:58:13,920 --> 01:58:16,440
Speaker 1: done that, But I went into last year saying, there's

2543
01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:18,680
Speaker 1: no proof in my mind that the Bills have taken

2544
01:58:18,720 --> 01:58:20,880
Speaker 1: such a massive step back that they're not still gonna

2545
01:58:20,920 --> 01:58:23,320
Speaker 1: win a bunch of games. What do you know, they

2546
01:58:23,400 --> 01:58:24,960
Speaker 1: won a bunch of games. We're doing the same thing

2547
01:58:25,000 --> 01:58:27,800
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys right now. Like, don't get it twisted.

2548
01:58:28,000 --> 01:58:31,200
Speaker 1: The Cowboys last year were a great team in the

2549
01:58:31,200 --> 01:58:34,680
Speaker 1: regular season. There is nothing to indicate that they won't

2550
01:58:34,720 --> 01:58:38,200
Speaker 1: also be a great team in the regular season this year.

2551
01:58:38,240 --> 01:58:41,680
Speaker 1: Like the demise of the Cowboys is being wildly overrated

2552
01:58:41,720 --> 01:58:44,440
Speaker 1: to me. Sure, they've done nothing to address the fact

2553
01:58:44,600 --> 01:58:46,320
Speaker 1: that they don't know how to get through the first round,

2554
01:58:46,360 --> 01:58:48,400
Speaker 1: second round of the playoffs. They've done nothing to address

2555
01:58:48,440 --> 01:58:50,800
Speaker 1: the fact that they haven't had enough playoff success for

2556
01:58:50,840 --> 01:58:53,280
Speaker 1: their fan base. I'll buy that argument all day. That

2557
01:58:53,320 --> 01:58:55,720
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that they're not still a double digit win

2558
01:58:55,880 --> 01:58:58,640
Speaker 1: team next year. By the way, with dak as their quarterback,

2559
01:58:58,720 --> 01:59:02,040
Speaker 1: so the MVP or quarterback, no reason I think he

2560
01:59:02,040 --> 01:59:05,320
Speaker 1: doesn't have another MVP caliber year while the Cowboys win

2561
01:59:05,400 --> 01:59:08,240
Speaker 1: a bunch of games. I mean that is the Cowboys

2562
01:59:08,280 --> 01:59:09,120
Speaker 1: are gonna be very good.

2563
01:59:09,360 --> 01:59:10,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's real.

2564
01:59:11,040 --> 01:59:12,760
Speaker 2: You not making it out of the first round of

2565
01:59:12,760 --> 01:59:15,080
Speaker 2: the playoffs or the second round of the playoffs. Whe

2566
01:59:15,400 --> 01:59:17,400
Speaker 2: whether it sounds weird or not, that's a first world

2567
01:59:17,440 --> 01:59:20,040
Speaker 2: problem that a team like the Raiders or the Broncos,

2568
01:59:20,440 --> 01:59:24,000
Speaker 2: or Washington or New York or Chicago, any of those

2569
01:59:24,000 --> 01:59:26,480
Speaker 2: teams love to have those issues because right now they're

2570
01:59:26,520 --> 01:59:28,360
Speaker 2: trying to find somebody to actually just get them into

2571
01:59:28,400 --> 01:59:30,680
Speaker 2: the playoffs and make them competitive on a year in,

2572
01:59:30,760 --> 01:59:33,960
Speaker 2: year out basis the appreciative of what you have. As

2573
01:59:34,000 --> 01:59:35,160
Speaker 2: weird as that might sound.

2574
01:59:34,960 --> 01:59:37,040
Speaker 6: Can I say something too as a Jets fan, My

2575
01:59:37,120 --> 01:59:41,400
Speaker 6: team has not made the playoffs since twenty ten, so

2576
01:59:41,600 --> 01:59:45,120
Speaker 6: just to compare that to a team who's perennially making

2577
01:59:45,160 --> 01:59:49,280
Speaker 6: the playoffs. And to your point, Kevin, it only one

2578
01:59:50,080 --> 01:59:53,000
Speaker 6: one quarterback wins the Super Bowl every year, right and

2579
01:59:53,040 --> 01:59:54,920
Speaker 6: the fact that it hasn't been Dack yet, I don't

2580
01:59:54,920 --> 01:59:59,440
Speaker 6: think is necessarily an indictment on his potential to be

2581
01:59:59,480 --> 02:00:00,880
Speaker 6: a Super Bowl winning quarterback.

2582
02:00:01,560 --> 02:00:04,520
Speaker 1: Well said, It's it's a team game, like wins and

2583
02:00:04,520 --> 02:00:07,120
Speaker 1: losses are not a quarterback stat. They just aren't. So

2584
02:00:07,760 --> 02:00:11,240
Speaker 1: it's a fifty three man roster, like Jimmy g played

2585
02:00:11,240 --> 02:00:14,000
Speaker 1: well enough to get the forty nine ers into a

2586
02:00:14,080 --> 02:00:16,160
Speaker 1: lead midway through the fourth quarter in a Super Bowl

2587
02:00:16,200 --> 02:00:18,960
Speaker 1: that he lost. Like, does that mean that Jimmy G's

2588
02:00:19,000 --> 02:00:21,760
Speaker 1: at fault for that Super Bowl? I have a hard

2589
02:00:21,800 --> 02:00:24,240
Speaker 1: time with that. Like I have a hard time believing

2590
02:00:24,280 --> 02:00:26,640
Speaker 1: as much as Atlanta as a team blew a twenty

2591
02:00:26,720 --> 02:00:28,920
Speaker 1: eight to three league, not Matt Ryan. So like, Matt

2592
02:00:29,000 --> 02:00:30,840
Speaker 1: Ryan doesn't have a Super Bowl win, does that mean

2593
02:00:30,840 --> 02:00:32,000
Speaker 1: that Matt Ryan sucks?

2594
02:00:32,040 --> 02:00:32,160
Speaker 6: Like?

2595
02:00:32,480 --> 02:00:35,400
Speaker 1: This is the problem with the entire conversation that we're

2596
02:00:35,440 --> 02:00:38,120
Speaker 1: having around quarterbacks, And it's the problem with the entire

2597
02:00:38,160 --> 02:00:40,919
Speaker 1: conversation we're having around Dak. I think the whole thing's twisted.

2598
02:00:41,240 --> 02:00:43,640
Speaker 1: Dak deserves the money he's gonna get. It's gonna be

2599
02:00:43,640 --> 02:00:46,200
Speaker 1: an epic payday. The Cowboys are gonna be just fy

2600
02:00:46,320 --> 02:00:47,960
Speaker 1: next year, and if they do or don't win the

2601
02:00:48,000 --> 02:00:50,320
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, it won't change any of the fact that

2602
02:00:50,320 --> 02:00:53,320
Speaker 1: they'll be a very good regular season team, which maybe

2603
02:00:53,400 --> 02:00:57,200
Speaker 1: the fans should appreciate. Maybe I should appreciate March madness more.

2604
02:00:57,360 --> 02:01:00,000
Speaker 1: We'll figure out that next the Fellas on Fox Sports. Right,

2605
02:01:00,120 --> 02:01:05,760
Speaker 1: you're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio as we settle

2606
02:01:05,800 --> 02:01:10,600
Speaker 1: in to the Elite eight in the NCAA tournament. It

2607
02:01:10,600 --> 02:01:13,120
Speaker 1: doesn't feel good to say it out loud, but we

2608
02:01:13,240 --> 02:01:17,360
Speaker 1: just all need to come together and acknowledge it. We

2609
02:01:17,440 --> 02:01:21,120
Speaker 1: need to root for Duke. Doesn't feel good. I know

2610
02:01:21,200 --> 02:01:23,160
Speaker 1: most of you are sitting there saying, but I don't

2611
02:01:23,280 --> 02:01:29,600
Speaker 1: like Duke. The thing of it is, villains sell, Villains

2612
02:01:29,600 --> 02:01:32,160
Speaker 1: get eyeballs, and as I tell people on Twitter X

2613
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Speaker 1: all the time that have comments about my work, hate

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Speaker 1: views count. Also, it's the Fellaws on Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 1: buying should be, I'm Jason Fitz hanging out with Kevin Figures.

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Speaker 1: We got Ian, we got Mighty Mark. We're all hanging

2621
02:01:56,720 --> 02:01:59,160
Speaker 1: out with you together. As the Fellows on Fox Sports Radio,

2622
02:01:59,600 --> 02:02:03,560
Speaker 1: Anthony Argano gets the day off much deserved as he

2623
02:02:03,640 --> 02:02:06,200
Speaker 1: gets a little bit of time here. And I keep

2624
02:02:06,320 --> 02:02:09,600
Speaker 1: watching this and thinking about who the ultimate go to

2625
02:02:09,920 --> 02:02:14,200
Speaker 1: villain is. The people that will resonate. Everybody will flock

2626
02:02:14,400 --> 02:02:16,960
Speaker 1: to this team to see them win or lose, and

2627
02:02:17,000 --> 02:02:19,480
Speaker 1: it reminds me of Madonna. Hear me out. I know

2628
02:02:19,520 --> 02:02:21,720
Speaker 1: it's a weird comparison, but I like to bring my

2629
02:02:21,840 --> 02:02:24,200
Speaker 1: music background into all of this. And years and years

2630
02:02:24,240 --> 02:02:27,400
Speaker 1: ago in the eighties, people ask Madonna about, you know,

2631
02:02:27,440 --> 02:02:30,560
Speaker 1: the fact that everybody had something to say. And Madonna

2632
02:02:30,680 --> 02:02:33,760
Speaker 1: was one of the pioneers at that time for making

2633
02:02:33,760 --> 02:02:37,960
Speaker 1: sure that we all understood that any publicity is good publicity.

2634
02:02:38,000 --> 02:02:40,080
Speaker 1: She lived and died on that hill throughout the course

2635
02:02:40,120 --> 02:02:42,800
Speaker 1: of the entire eighties. I remember when I was a kid,

2636
02:02:42,960 --> 02:02:45,360
Speaker 1: Big bon Jovi fan. Bon Jovi was my first concert,

2637
02:02:45,360 --> 02:02:48,120
Speaker 1: bon Jovi skid Row Old Orchard Beach Main That's my

2638
02:02:48,120 --> 02:02:51,160
Speaker 1: first concert. Love bon Jovi. I remember picking up Rolling

2639
02:02:51,200 --> 02:02:53,520
Speaker 1: Stone one year when they did the Reader's Choice Awards

2640
02:02:53,520 --> 02:02:56,880
Speaker 1: and bon Jovi was voted the best band and the

2641
02:02:56,920 --> 02:03:01,920
Speaker 1: worst band in the same year. That's that's what the

2642
02:03:01,960 --> 02:03:05,160
Speaker 1: women's game has right now. That's part of the reason

2643
02:03:05,400 --> 02:03:07,920
Speaker 1: that people are flocking to see Don Staley and to

2644
02:03:07,960 --> 02:03:10,480
Speaker 1: see Angel and to see Caitlin and to see Page.

2645
02:03:10,560 --> 02:03:13,240
Speaker 1: I'm using all of these one names because they resonate.

2646
02:03:13,280 --> 02:03:16,800
Speaker 1: They have that, they have heroes, they have villains. College

2647
02:03:16,800 --> 02:03:20,240
Speaker 1: basketball doesn't have that right now. Now. I mentioned this

2648
02:03:20,320 --> 02:03:22,960
Speaker 1: earlier and I had several people to tweet me and say, no, no, no,

2649
02:03:23,000 --> 02:03:28,160
Speaker 1: you're under selling Connecticut. Connecticut is the villain. So I

2650
02:03:28,160 --> 02:03:31,600
Speaker 1: looked it up. As we've mentioned a few times throughout

2651
02:03:31,640 --> 02:03:33,560
Speaker 1: the course of the show, I love me some TV

2652
02:03:33,720 --> 02:03:39,040
Speaker 1: data data doesn't lie right. Last year's NCAA Men's Final

2653
02:03:39,680 --> 02:03:41,840
Speaker 1: between San Diego State, I know, not a big drop

2654
02:03:41,880 --> 02:03:46,160
Speaker 1: at San Diego State to Cinderella against Connecticut was the

2655
02:03:46,240 --> 02:03:51,560
Speaker 1: lowest rated in the history of the tournament ever, not

2656
02:03:51,720 --> 02:03:56,280
Speaker 1: just compared to previous years. Ever, because casuals don't care

2657
02:03:56,320 --> 02:04:01,640
Speaker 1: about Yukon. It's just real. I'll show my bias spending

2658
02:04:01,720 --> 02:04:06,000
Speaker 1: a lot of time close to Hartford. I absolutely I

2659
02:04:06,040 --> 02:04:10,560
Speaker 1: feel the passion. We're on Fox Sports Radio up there

2660
02:04:10,800 --> 02:04:12,520
Speaker 1: in Hartford. I got buddies that are on their way

2661
02:04:12,560 --> 02:04:15,120
Speaker 1: to Orange Theory this morning that are listening right now,

2662
02:04:15,280 --> 02:04:17,080
Speaker 1: and I'm sure they're telling me that I'm a trader

2663
02:04:17,120 --> 02:04:22,760
Speaker 1: because Connecticut does resonate Nope, not nationally. I don't think

2664
02:04:22,800 --> 02:04:25,400
Speaker 1: anybody that's a college basketball casual is sitting there in

2665
02:04:25,480 --> 02:04:27,960
Speaker 1: Montana saying I can't wait for a Monday night late

2666
02:04:28,040 --> 02:04:33,120
Speaker 1: night championship matchup with Connecticut versus anybody not named Duke.

2667
02:04:33,920 --> 02:04:37,000
Speaker 1: But you put Duke in it, you put the ultimate

2668
02:04:37,080 --> 02:04:40,520
Speaker 1: villain in it. Now we watch and it's not even

2669
02:04:40,560 --> 02:04:42,520
Speaker 1: just about being a villain. Now it's about being a

2670
02:04:42,520 --> 02:04:46,480
Speaker 1: sustainable villain for the next chapter in college basketball. We

2671
02:04:46,520 --> 02:04:49,360
Speaker 1: gotta have it or somebody's got to step up.

2672
02:04:49,360 --> 02:04:51,040
Speaker 3: Go ahead, fig how does they have the very least

2673
02:04:51,080 --> 02:04:51,520
Speaker 3: have a hero?

2674
02:04:51,800 --> 02:04:54,200
Speaker 2: You know the old saying of the opposite of love

2675
02:04:54,560 --> 02:04:56,960
Speaker 2: isn't hate, it's indifference. I can say the opposite of

2676
02:04:56,960 --> 02:04:59,280
Speaker 2: hate is indifference too if you're not because if I

2677
02:04:59,320 --> 02:05:01,480
Speaker 2: switch over to the women's side and look at Caitlyn Clark,

2678
02:05:01,480 --> 02:05:03,760
Speaker 2: there's very few people that hate Caitlyn Clark, but you're

2679
02:05:03,840 --> 02:05:06,000
Speaker 2: drawn to her. You want to watch her play because

2680
02:05:06,040 --> 02:05:09,480
Speaker 2: she's such a spectacular athlete and what she's doing has

2681
02:05:09,520 --> 02:05:11,840
Speaker 2: been amazing and incredible. You want to see how launch

2682
02:05:11,880 --> 02:05:14,920
Speaker 2: she can continue on this run. Well, there's nobody to

2683
02:05:14,920 --> 02:05:17,760
Speaker 2: hate and there's nobody to love. You just have a

2684
02:05:17,880 --> 02:05:20,720
Speaker 2: crap ton of indifference right now. But on the men's side,

2685
02:05:20,880 --> 02:05:22,800
Speaker 2: and that's not what she wants. You want to have

2686
02:05:22,880 --> 02:05:24,880
Speaker 2: a draw one way or the other. And to your point,

2687
02:05:24,960 --> 02:05:28,480
Speaker 2: Duke universally hated by everybody who pretty much didn't go

2688
02:05:28,520 --> 02:05:31,080
Speaker 2: to Duke. So that is the biggest draw at this

2689
02:05:31,080 --> 02:05:33,760
Speaker 2: point in time. Nobody else moves the needle, no one

2690
02:05:33,800 --> 02:05:36,680
Speaker 2: outside of you. And I really knows who Terren Shannon is.

2691
02:05:36,960 --> 02:05:39,920
Speaker 2: He's great players, He's having a phenomenal tournament. Illinois's not

2692
02:05:39,920 --> 02:05:43,560
Speaker 2: moving the needle for anybody. Just isn't it's Duke or

2693
02:05:43,600 --> 02:05:45,240
Speaker 2: bust at this point in time, it really is.

2694
02:05:45,760 --> 02:05:48,240
Speaker 1: I mean, think about the most dominant player. I would

2695
02:05:48,320 --> 02:05:50,280
Speaker 1: argue that right now, Arren Shannon Junior, by the way,

2696
02:05:50,400 --> 02:05:53,480
Speaker 1: is the most dominant player in this year's tournament. Dalton

2697
02:05:53,520 --> 02:05:56,800
Speaker 1: Connectors from Tennessee's a close second to the way he's

2698
02:05:56,840 --> 02:05:59,640
Speaker 1: played last game, but he was quiet in the beginning

2699
02:05:59,640 --> 02:06:01,920
Speaker 1: of this turn it. So you've got the best player

2700
02:06:02,000 --> 02:06:04,640
Speaker 1: zachi Ye also the best player, the best player over

2701
02:06:04,680 --> 02:06:06,320
Speaker 1: the course of the year, the best player of the

2702
02:06:06,320 --> 02:06:08,640
Speaker 1: course of the tournament, the best team over the course

2703
02:06:08,680 --> 02:06:11,680
Speaker 1: of the year, all in the Elite eight. Nobody gives

2704
02:06:11,720 --> 02:06:14,680
Speaker 1: a damn. And your Caitlin point is a really important

2705
02:06:14,680 --> 02:06:18,440
Speaker 1: one because I would argue that Caitlin now, by having

2706
02:06:18,520 --> 02:06:22,560
Speaker 1: Caitlin versus Angel last year, that became a thing. Yes, right,

2707
02:06:22,640 --> 02:06:26,000
Speaker 1: So now Caitlin v Angel is like there is a

2708
02:06:26,120 --> 02:06:28,240
Speaker 1: concept there are group of fans that are saying, well,

2709
02:06:28,440 --> 02:06:31,280
Speaker 1: why do we analyze Caitlyn's behavior different than we analyze

2710
02:06:31,320 --> 02:06:34,520
Speaker 1: Angel's behavior? And the competitive you know, Angel or Caitlyn

2711
02:06:34,960 --> 02:06:38,160
Speaker 1: yelling and yelling at her dad, like these things have

2712
02:06:38,280 --> 02:06:40,440
Speaker 1: all sort of blown up. So there is this sort

2713
02:06:40,480 --> 02:06:46,000
Speaker 1: of ying and yang of it. There's a rivalry aspect

2714
02:06:46,080 --> 02:06:47,680
Speaker 1: of it. I don't want to say hero villain because

2715
02:06:47,720 --> 02:06:50,440
Speaker 1: I don't think either of them are villains, but I

2716
02:06:50,480 --> 02:06:53,040
Speaker 1: think there is a rivalry aspect to the way that

2717
02:06:53,080 --> 02:06:58,200
Speaker 1: they're approaching that draws interest. Right, Like South Carolina is undefeated,

2718
02:06:58,760 --> 02:07:02,840
Speaker 1: undefeated in women's college basketball, and that in and of

2719
02:07:02,880 --> 02:07:05,920
Speaker 1: itself isn't even the number one story because of Caitlyn

2720
02:07:06,000 --> 02:07:10,000
Speaker 1: and Angels. So like that just shows you how marketable

2721
02:07:10,080 --> 02:07:13,240
Speaker 1: it can be. And I'm watching March Madness and last

2722
02:07:13,320 --> 02:07:17,040
Speaker 1: night night before watching some good games, watching some good teams,

2723
02:07:17,240 --> 02:07:20,600
Speaker 1: I'm watching teams separate and I'm still sitting there thinking,

2724
02:07:20,680 --> 02:07:24,960
Speaker 1: ain't nobody gonna care about that? They just don't, you

2725
02:07:24,960 --> 02:07:27,080
Speaker 1: know it, They just don't.

2726
02:07:27,720 --> 02:07:30,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, And part of it is unfortunate because as someone

2727
02:07:30,800 --> 02:07:32,880
Speaker 2: who's just a fan of the sport, like I can

2728
02:07:32,920 --> 02:07:35,360
Speaker 2: appreciate an NC state that had to fight their way

2729
02:07:35,400 --> 02:07:38,360
Speaker 2: in through the ACC tournament to even get to this

2730
02:07:38,440 --> 02:07:41,280
Speaker 2: position and have some good talent and play hard and

2731
02:07:41,280 --> 02:07:43,200
Speaker 2: play well to get to this spot. You know, you

2732
02:07:43,200 --> 02:07:46,520
Speaker 2: can say the same about Tennessee, who granted came in

2733
02:07:46,560 --> 02:07:48,000
Speaker 2: as a two seed, but they had their share of

2734
02:07:48,040 --> 02:07:50,280
Speaker 2: doubters coming in. A lot of people, myself included, thought

2735
02:07:50,280 --> 02:07:53,200
Speaker 2: Creighton would beat him coming in. We mentioned Taron Shannon Junior,

2736
02:07:53,240 --> 02:07:55,840
Speaker 2: the best individual player and has just played out of

2737
02:07:55,840 --> 02:07:57,800
Speaker 2: his mind. I think he's averaging close to thirty points

2738
02:07:57,800 --> 02:08:01,080
Speaker 2: a game in the tournament. Has been absolutely spectacular. But

2739
02:08:01,520 --> 02:08:06,200
Speaker 2: because college basketball just doesn't have any fervor or excitement

2740
02:08:06,440 --> 02:08:09,960
Speaker 2: through the regular season, people just don't have time to

2741
02:08:10,000 --> 02:08:12,520
Speaker 2: gain familiarity, gain love or hate for any of these

2742
02:08:12,520 --> 02:08:14,760
Speaker 2: teams or these players. So by the time it rolls

2743
02:08:14,760 --> 02:08:17,400
Speaker 2: around now, you end up falling back on the brands.

2744
02:08:17,720 --> 02:08:21,640
Speaker 2: And right now, the biggest brand remaining is Duke Well.

2745
02:08:21,480 --> 02:08:23,680
Speaker 1: And look at the matchups we're gonna get. Let's take

2746
02:08:23,680 --> 02:08:25,800
Speaker 1: a second and look at these Elite eight matchups. Yukon

2747
02:08:25,920 --> 02:08:29,160
Speaker 1: versus Illinois, best team in the country versus best player

2748
02:08:29,160 --> 02:08:31,920
Speaker 1: in this tournament, absolutely no doubt, two teams that can

2749
02:08:31,960 --> 02:08:34,520
Speaker 1: both score from a lot of different places. Illinois, I

2750
02:08:34,520 --> 02:08:37,600
Speaker 1: don't want to just make them about one person. They've

2751
02:08:37,680 --> 02:08:40,000
Speaker 1: got three or four guys there that can absolutely crush

2752
02:08:40,040 --> 02:08:42,600
Speaker 1: you in different ways. I think it's an intriguing matchup.

2753
02:08:42,640 --> 02:08:45,560
Speaker 1: I think, you know, frankly, I thought Iowa State was

2754
02:08:45,600 --> 02:08:50,160
Speaker 1: gonna be able to slow Illinois down a lot more defensively.

2755
02:08:50,200 --> 02:08:53,360
Speaker 1: They didn't. So I love this Yukon Illinois matchup. I

2756
02:08:53,360 --> 02:08:55,760
Speaker 1: think Illinois is the best shot we've had so far

2757
02:08:56,120 --> 02:08:58,440
Speaker 1: at actually seeing Yukon get pushed a little bit. The

2758
02:08:58,520 --> 02:09:04,160
Speaker 1: problem is, I don't think anybody can take everything right now.

2759
02:09:04,240 --> 02:09:08,000
Speaker 1: Is effortless for Connecticut. And you know one thing I've

2760
02:09:08,280 --> 02:09:11,520
Speaker 1: learned sitting next to Danny Green so much through this analysis,

2761
02:09:11,680 --> 02:09:14,960
Speaker 1: Yukon has better drawn plays throughout the course of their

2762
02:09:15,000 --> 02:09:17,560
Speaker 1: game than anybody else. Like they are better coach with

2763
02:09:17,720 --> 02:09:19,880
Speaker 1: real play. So I think Yukon wins this game. But

2764
02:09:19,920 --> 02:09:21,880
Speaker 1: I think it's actually a really good game. Yeah.

2765
02:09:21,920 --> 02:09:24,720
Speaker 2: Well, the issue with Yukon is you take one thing away,

2766
02:09:24,760 --> 02:09:26,360
Speaker 2: they have accounted to it, and they have a counter

2767
02:09:26,480 --> 02:09:29,040
Speaker 2: to your counter, and there's not one guy that you

2768
02:09:29,040 --> 02:09:32,160
Speaker 2: can key in on. They have five guys averaging double figures.

2769
02:09:32,720 --> 02:09:35,240
Speaker 2: I mean, that's insane in today's basketball, usually we talk

2770
02:09:35,280 --> 02:09:38,200
Speaker 2: about Taron Shannon, who's individually dominating the tournament. And yes,

2771
02:09:38,240 --> 02:09:41,440
Speaker 2: Illinois is underrated. Defensively, they're very good on defense, and

2772
02:09:41,480 --> 02:09:44,680
Speaker 2: to your point, scored more easily against Iowa State than

2773
02:09:44,800 --> 02:09:46,840
Speaker 2: I thought they would. That's the best defensive team they've

2774
02:09:46,840 --> 02:09:49,800
Speaker 2: played this year, and especially in that second half, Taron

2775
02:09:49,800 --> 02:09:51,480
Speaker 2: Shannon ate them up for lunch. So that's going to

2776
02:09:51,560 --> 02:09:54,640
Speaker 2: be an interesting, you know, matchup to watch as to

2777
02:09:54,680 --> 02:09:57,720
Speaker 2: how Yukon finds a way to defend him. But how

2778
02:09:57,760 --> 02:09:59,480
Speaker 2: are they going to defend Yukon on the other end?

2779
02:09:59,600 --> 02:10:00,000
Speaker 3: Is the issue?

2780
02:10:00,280 --> 02:10:01,960
Speaker 2: When they have so many guys that can get you.

2781
02:10:02,200 --> 02:10:04,440
Speaker 2: If it's not Spencer, it's Carabin. If it's not Carabin,

2782
02:10:04,520 --> 02:10:06,800
Speaker 2: it's Newton. They have just they have so many guys.

2783
02:10:06,960 --> 02:10:09,920
Speaker 2: It's hard for me to see anybody, even Duke, finding

2784
02:10:09,960 --> 02:10:11,480
Speaker 2: a way to beat Yukon. To be honest with you,

2785
02:10:11,520 --> 02:10:13,080
Speaker 2: I do think this will be the most hell. Look,

2786
02:10:13,160 --> 02:10:14,960
Speaker 2: by the way, go back to the San Diego State game.

2787
02:10:15,160 --> 02:10:17,600
Speaker 2: You know that game was close at halftime. I think

2788
02:10:17,600 --> 02:10:19,520
Speaker 2: it was like a six point game something like that,

2789
02:10:19,840 --> 02:10:22,200
Speaker 2: and Yukon was playing terribly. They're probably playing their D

2790
02:10:22,280 --> 02:10:24,800
Speaker 2: minus game, and they were in it at the half,

2791
02:10:24,840 --> 02:10:26,800
Speaker 2: and they just blew the doors off of them five

2792
02:10:26,840 --> 02:10:28,880
Speaker 2: minutes into the second half. The fact that they can

2793
02:10:28,880 --> 02:10:30,720
Speaker 2: play one of their worst the worst half of the

2794
02:10:30,840 --> 02:10:34,280
Speaker 2: entire tournament, still be in single up, single digits and

2795
02:10:34,280 --> 02:10:35,960
Speaker 2: then just blow the doors off of you tells you

2796
02:10:36,000 --> 02:10:38,200
Speaker 2: how wide of a gap there is between them and

2797
02:10:38,280 --> 02:10:39,120
Speaker 2: most other teams.

2798
02:10:39,440 --> 02:10:41,840
Speaker 1: Also tells you how good Hurley is to getting the

2799
02:10:41,840 --> 02:10:44,240
Speaker 1: pulse of the guys, because not every team in this

2800
02:10:44,320 --> 02:10:46,680
Speaker 1: tournament has woken up in the second half, and he

2801
02:10:46,760 --> 02:10:49,040
Speaker 1: got them to wake up. The Clemson Bama is funny

2802
02:10:49,080 --> 02:10:52,200
Speaker 1: to me because everybody's just gonna repeatedly say, you know,

2803
02:10:52,600 --> 02:10:56,160
Speaker 1: Clemson Bama. You know, it feels like a football matchup,

2804
02:10:56,160 --> 02:10:59,440
Speaker 1: And ironically, the winner of that game is going to

2805
02:10:59,480 --> 02:11:02,840
Speaker 1: then play in a stadium that they played in college

2806
02:11:02,880 --> 02:11:06,360
Speaker 1: football for a national championship. So it's a funny story.

2807
02:11:06,360 --> 02:11:09,800
Speaker 1: But what Alabama did to Carolina is anything but funny.

2808
02:11:09,800 --> 02:11:12,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I was stunned. I think that's one of

2809
02:11:12,200 --> 02:11:14,400
Speaker 1: the more stunning outcomes we've seen throughout the course of

2810
02:11:14,400 --> 02:11:17,600
Speaker 1: the whole tournament is that North Carolina was a combination

2811
02:11:17,720 --> 02:11:20,960
Speaker 1: of cold and then just not capable of handling Alabama's

2812
02:11:21,200 --> 02:11:23,959
Speaker 1: defense in general, which is weird to say because Bama's

2813
02:11:24,000 --> 02:11:25,880
Speaker 1: note this year has been they could score on anybody,

2814
02:11:25,960 --> 02:11:27,200
Speaker 1: but anybody can score on.

2815
02:11:27,120 --> 02:11:29,920
Speaker 2: Them, right, And I had no I obviously had no

2816
02:11:30,000 --> 02:11:32,400
Speaker 2: designs that Grant Nelson would you know, end up playing,

2817
02:11:32,480 --> 02:11:34,880
Speaker 2: you know, like a Hall of Famer. I mean, he's

2818
02:11:34,920 --> 02:11:37,080
Speaker 2: a good player, but you've been telling me Grant Nelson

2819
02:11:37,160 --> 02:11:40,240
Speaker 2: versus Armando Baycott. I'm taking Baycot every single day and

2820
02:11:40,600 --> 02:11:42,680
Speaker 2: certainly didn't work itself out that night, but he had

2821
02:11:42,680 --> 02:11:43,440
Speaker 2: the game of his life.

2822
02:11:43,760 --> 02:11:44,800
Speaker 3: More power to him.

2823
02:11:45,240 --> 02:11:46,960
Speaker 2: Like I said, I would have loved to have seen

2824
02:11:46,960 --> 02:11:49,720
Speaker 2: North Carolina advance because we're talking about blue bloods again,

2825
02:11:49,760 --> 02:11:52,920
Speaker 2: Alabama football blue blood all day long, but to see

2826
02:11:52,920 --> 02:11:55,720
Speaker 2: North Carolina, the potential of a North Carolina duke national

2827
02:11:55,800 --> 02:11:58,800
Speaker 2: championship was on the horizon and it was rod But

2828
02:11:58,880 --> 02:12:01,560
Speaker 2: all credit in the world to Alabama. Like you mentioned,

2829
02:12:01,560 --> 02:12:03,720
Speaker 2: this is going to be the classic football matchup. I

2830
02:12:03,720 --> 02:12:05,760
Speaker 2: don't know how many people would have had Alabama or

2831
02:12:05,760 --> 02:12:09,080
Speaker 2: Clemson in their final four coming into the coming into

2832
02:12:09,080 --> 02:12:09,600
Speaker 2: the tournament.

2833
02:12:09,920 --> 02:12:12,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. By the way, I got Yukon beating Illinois

2834
02:12:12,960 --> 02:12:14,640
Speaker 1: and I've got Bama beaten Clemson.

2835
02:12:15,160 --> 02:12:17,480
Speaker 3: You same, I'm right there with you, all right.

2836
02:12:17,800 --> 02:12:19,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want to short the

2837
02:12:19,080 --> 02:12:21,680
Speaker 1: other two. So we'll keep breaking down what to look

2838
02:12:21,720 --> 02:12:23,720
Speaker 1: for over the course of the weekend. As the Elite

2839
02:12:23,720 --> 02:12:26,760
Speaker 1: Eight is giving us eight elite teams that deserve to

2840
02:12:26,760 --> 02:12:28,680
Speaker 1: be here, I don't want to short any of them

2841
02:12:29,000 --> 02:12:30,920
Speaker 1: from where they are, but I will tell you this,

2842
02:12:31,000 --> 02:12:34,000
Speaker 1: I think there's one surprising outcome coming in the in

2843
02:12:34,040 --> 02:12:35,440
Speaker 1: the Elite Eight. I'll tell you about it. Next to

2844
02:12:35,480 --> 02:12:39,280
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2845
02:12:39,320 --> 02:12:41,920
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02:12:41,960 --> 02:12:44,640
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2853
02:13:04,000 --> 02:13:07,040
Speaker 1: He's Kevin Figures, I'm Jason fitz He and Mighty Mark

2854
02:13:08,000 --> 02:13:11,560
Speaker 1: it's fellas taking a look at some March Madness action.

2855
02:13:11,880 --> 02:13:14,240
Speaker 1: As we take a look at the Elite eight matchups

2856
02:13:14,240 --> 02:13:17,800
Speaker 1: we have coming this weekend. So far, Figure and I agree,

2857
02:13:17,800 --> 02:13:20,600
Speaker 1: we're both taking Yukon over Illinois. We're both taking Bama

2858
02:13:20,680 --> 02:13:24,560
Speaker 1: over Clemson. So then it becomes interesting backside Burns as

2859
02:13:24,560 --> 02:13:26,880
Speaker 1: I'd like to call him, the Master of the dump

2860
02:13:26,920 --> 02:13:31,200
Speaker 1: truck Duke taking on NC State. This is one of

2861
02:13:31,200 --> 02:13:33,360
Speaker 1: those moments where I don't know, Figgie, I feel like

2862
02:13:33,440 --> 02:13:36,200
Speaker 1: every single game, I think this is going to be

2863
02:13:36,200 --> 02:13:38,640
Speaker 1: the game that NC State gets run off the floor,

2864
02:13:38,760 --> 02:13:41,240
Speaker 1: and all they do is continue to figure out a

2865
02:13:41,240 --> 02:13:44,680
Speaker 1: way to win. The streak they're on right now is remarkable,

2866
02:13:44,880 --> 02:13:46,960
Speaker 1: and you know, when you think about what it is

2867
02:13:47,120 --> 02:13:49,680
Speaker 1: meant for the team, when you think what about what

2868
02:13:49,800 --> 02:13:53,160
Speaker 1: it has meant for their future, you know you it

2869
02:13:53,240 --> 02:13:56,120
Speaker 1: is not It should be noted here that NC State

2870
02:13:56,280 --> 02:14:00,480
Speaker 1: was just absolutely they were falling apart right and there

2871
02:14:00,520 --> 02:14:02,280
Speaker 1: was a real concept that they were going to be

2872
02:14:02,280 --> 02:14:05,440
Speaker 1: making a coaching change. There was a real concept that

2873
02:14:05,720 --> 02:14:07,280
Speaker 1: they were going to blow the whole thing up. And

2874
02:14:07,320 --> 02:14:09,800
Speaker 1: now keats the Kevin keats the head coach at NC

2875
02:14:09,920 --> 02:14:13,360
Speaker 1: State by winning the ACC tournament was automatically given a

2876
02:14:13,400 --> 02:14:16,880
Speaker 1: two year contract extension. And you watch this run. We've

2877
02:14:16,880 --> 02:14:19,520
Speaker 1: gone from sitting here looking at NC State thinking this

2878
02:14:19,560 --> 02:14:22,520
Speaker 1: whole thing's falling apart to looking at them saying, my god,

2879
02:14:22,680 --> 02:14:25,680
Speaker 1: this is the way they're playing right now. They look

2880
02:14:26,360 --> 02:14:27,440
Speaker 1: really formidable.

2881
02:14:27,560 --> 02:14:30,400
Speaker 2: They do, and the double DJ's DJ Horn and DJ

2882
02:14:30,480 --> 02:14:32,560
Speaker 2: Burns are the ones behind it. Burns didn't even do

2883
02:14:32,640 --> 02:14:35,120
Speaker 2: that much in the game last night and they still

2884
02:14:35,120 --> 02:14:36,760
Speaker 2: were able to get a victory. And I will say

2885
02:14:36,760 --> 02:14:39,919
Speaker 2: one of their last victories in the ACC Championship tournament

2886
02:14:40,080 --> 02:14:42,800
Speaker 2: was against Duke, so they have some success. They only

2887
02:14:42,800 --> 02:14:45,600
Speaker 2: had played twice in the regular season split the series.

2888
02:14:45,640 --> 02:14:47,680
Speaker 2: I believe Marsh say they played once in the regular

2889
02:14:47,720 --> 02:14:49,240
Speaker 2: season Duke beat them, and then they played again in

2890
02:14:49,320 --> 02:14:53,200
Speaker 2: the conference tournament in NC State did beat them, So they.

2891
02:14:53,080 --> 02:14:54,280
Speaker 3: Know what that experience is like.

2892
02:14:54,320 --> 02:14:56,880
Speaker 2: They're not going to be intimidated if Burns can play,

2893
02:14:56,960 --> 02:14:59,480
Speaker 2: you know, with Philipowski won on one and figure that

2894
02:14:59,520 --> 02:15:01,280
Speaker 2: thing out, you know, why not? You know, I know,

2895
02:15:01,320 --> 02:15:03,120
Speaker 2: we don't want to see dude get knocked out because

2896
02:15:03,120 --> 02:15:05,600
Speaker 2: they're the ultimate hated team and they're basically the cash

2897
02:15:05,600 --> 02:15:07,160
Speaker 2: cow for the rest of the tournament at this point

2898
02:15:07,160 --> 02:15:10,920
Speaker 2: in time. For those people that love seeing upsets, you know,

2899
02:15:10,960 --> 02:15:12,920
Speaker 2: if you want to see this magical run continue for

2900
02:15:13,120 --> 02:15:15,680
Speaker 2: NC State, you know, I certainly can see a path

2901
02:15:15,720 --> 02:15:16,360
Speaker 2: to that happening.

2902
02:15:17,080 --> 02:15:20,640
Speaker 1: I think there is a moment of calm around Duke,

2903
02:15:20,720 --> 02:15:23,560
Speaker 1: though that's very hard to beat. And as we get

2904
02:15:23,560 --> 02:15:27,560
Speaker 1: further into this tournament, there's a presence to guys that

2905
02:15:27,600 --> 02:15:30,400
Speaker 1: have been there. There's a presidence to guys that don't

2906
02:15:30,400 --> 02:15:33,480
Speaker 1: get flustered. I do want to be real here though,

2907
02:15:34,000 --> 02:15:38,240
Speaker 1: Like Duke beats Houston by three in a game where

2908
02:15:38,240 --> 02:15:41,360
Speaker 1: it just fell apart for Houston, Like once they lost

2909
02:15:41,440 --> 02:15:44,400
Speaker 1: Jamal Shed they were done, and for about ten minutes

2910
02:15:44,440 --> 02:15:46,880
Speaker 1: of basketball time they couldn't figure out how to put

2911
02:15:46,880 --> 02:15:50,120
Speaker 1: together any offense. Houston. They being Houston all the way

2912
02:15:50,160 --> 02:15:51,800
Speaker 1: down to the end when they needed to get a

2913
02:15:51,840 --> 02:15:54,680
Speaker 1: shot off. They've gone through so many injuries and changes

2914
02:15:54,720 --> 02:15:56,800
Speaker 1: on that roster over the course of this year. I

2915
02:15:56,800 --> 02:15:59,160
Speaker 1: don't think they even had anybody, Like there was no

2916
02:15:59,200 --> 02:16:01,360
Speaker 1: moment on the side when they were saying, Okay, we

2917
02:16:01,440 --> 02:16:03,360
Speaker 1: know who we can bank on to get this shot

2918
02:16:03,440 --> 02:16:05,960
Speaker 1: force like, and they only lost that game by three

2919
02:16:06,000 --> 02:16:09,520
Speaker 1: to Duke. Duke was lucky to survive that game. They're

2920
02:16:09,600 --> 02:16:12,520
Speaker 1: going to I think they're a better team than NC State,

2921
02:16:13,040 --> 02:16:15,560
Speaker 1: But ah, man, I don't know. They make me nervous.

2922
02:16:15,720 --> 02:16:16,400
Speaker 1: They make me nurvouse.

2923
02:16:16,480 --> 02:16:19,080
Speaker 2: There's an element of potentially taking your foot off of

2924
02:16:19,080 --> 02:16:20,680
Speaker 2: the gas when you feel you have the game in

2925
02:16:20,720 --> 02:16:23,960
Speaker 2: hand and you know, you know, Houston kind of musters up,

2926
02:16:23,960 --> 02:16:25,960
Speaker 2: you know, one last go of it, and you know

2927
02:16:26,000 --> 02:16:27,720
Speaker 2: they start playing out of their minds to a certain

2928
02:16:27,760 --> 02:16:29,720
Speaker 2: degree and really make one last run. So I do

2929
02:16:29,760 --> 02:16:32,280
Speaker 2: think there's a human element knowing that their best player

2930
02:16:32,360 --> 02:16:34,720
Speaker 2: is down. And I know you say, how do you

2931
02:16:34,760 --> 02:16:36,720
Speaker 2: take your foot off the gas in the NCAA tournament?

2932
02:16:36,760 --> 02:16:38,840
Speaker 2: But these guys are human and they know that there's

2933
02:16:38,920 --> 02:16:41,400
Speaker 2: kind of a wound, a wounded animal over there, and

2934
02:16:41,440 --> 02:16:43,640
Speaker 2: that they're they're not at full strength, and it would

2935
02:16:43,800 --> 02:16:45,760
Speaker 2: it would take a bunch of guys playing outside of

2936
02:16:45,760 --> 02:16:48,160
Speaker 2: themselves for them to be competitive. And you know, for

2937
02:16:48,600 --> 02:16:51,039
Speaker 2: a Houston's credit, they did down the stretch and you know,

2938
02:16:51,120 --> 02:16:54,680
Speaker 2: gave themselves an opportunity to win it. But I as

2939
02:16:54,760 --> 02:16:56,840
Speaker 2: much as I am confident that NC State can give

2940
02:16:56,879 --> 02:16:59,040
Speaker 2: Duke a game, I am with you. I do think

2941
02:16:59,080 --> 02:17:00,760
Speaker 2: that Duke ends up. I don't know if I'll say

2942
02:17:00,800 --> 02:17:02,840
Speaker 2: overwhelming them, but I do think they end up pulling

2943
02:17:02,879 --> 02:17:04,920
Speaker 2: away and finding their way into the Final four and

2944
02:17:04,959 --> 02:17:05,480
Speaker 2: getting the W.

2945
02:17:05,959 --> 02:17:09,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, Marquette, I just pulled up the numbers

2946
02:17:09,040 --> 02:17:10,680
Speaker 1: to make sure I didn't have any of it wrong.

2947
02:17:10,800 --> 02:17:15,119
Speaker 1: Marquette four of thirty one, yes three yes, four of

2948
02:17:15,280 --> 02:17:20,199
Speaker 1: thirty one. That's twelve point nine percent. And to be clear,

2949
02:17:20,280 --> 02:17:23,080
Speaker 1: if you watch the game, there were open looks ever

2950
02:17:23,280 --> 02:17:28,560
Speaker 1: plenty that could not hit anything like NC State's defense

2951
02:17:28,640 --> 02:17:31,320
Speaker 1: was fine, but Marquette had open look after open look

2952
02:17:31,360 --> 02:17:35,200
Speaker 1: after open look and just could not convert them. NC

2953
02:17:35,320 --> 02:17:37,640
Speaker 1: State's gonna have to figure that portion of their defensive

2954
02:17:37,720 --> 02:17:39,840
Speaker 1: because they can't give Duke that many open lists.

2955
02:17:39,840 --> 02:17:41,959
Speaker 2: And this is one of those where if it's a

2956
02:17:41,959 --> 02:17:44,200
Speaker 2: seven game series, they don't stand a chance. But because

2957
02:17:44,240 --> 02:17:46,520
Speaker 2: they happen to catch Marquette on the night where they

2958
02:17:46,560 --> 02:17:50,120
Speaker 2: just had literally their worst offensive performance of the entire season,

2959
02:17:50,760 --> 02:17:52,000
Speaker 2: this sort of result can happen.

2960
02:17:52,520 --> 02:17:54,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, I mean I got Duke in this game.

2961
02:17:54,920 --> 02:17:57,280
Speaker 1: It sounds like you got Duke in this game. So

2962
02:17:57,320 --> 02:18:00,560
Speaker 1: that brings us to one more Elite eight matchup. I

2963
02:18:00,600 --> 02:18:02,960
Speaker 1: hedged my bet. At the beginning of the tournament, I

2964
02:18:03,000 --> 02:18:05,160
Speaker 1: was asked who I thought the most interesting player in

2965
02:18:05,200 --> 02:18:08,560
Speaker 1: the tournament would be, and I said Dalton Connect if

2966
02:18:08,600 --> 02:18:11,840
Speaker 1: Tennessee gives him the chance to be. And my argument

2967
02:18:11,879 --> 02:18:13,880
Speaker 1: to this is we all saw in the SEC tournament

2968
02:18:13,920 --> 02:18:16,440
Speaker 1: and a couple of times this year for Tennessee that

2969
02:18:16,840 --> 02:18:19,240
Speaker 1: if Connect has an off night, they don't get offense

2970
02:18:19,240 --> 02:18:22,520
Speaker 1: from anywhere else. Well, to their credit, in the first round,

2971
02:18:22,760 --> 02:18:24,800
Speaker 1: Connect did have an off night and they were fine.

2972
02:18:25,080 --> 02:18:27,080
Speaker 1: In the second round, it was better, but they were

2973
02:18:27,120 --> 02:18:30,119
Speaker 1: still fine. Now we get a match up against Creyton

2974
02:18:30,160 --> 02:18:31,920
Speaker 1: where I thought Creighton was going to take him down.

2975
02:18:31,920 --> 02:18:34,560
Speaker 1: I had picked Creyton in that game at the beginning

2976
02:18:34,560 --> 02:18:37,720
Speaker 1: of this and frankly, there was a level of balance

2977
02:18:37,920 --> 02:18:40,440
Speaker 1: to Tennessee. And the thing that we all keep talking

2978
02:18:40,440 --> 02:18:44,840
Speaker 1: about Tennessee defensively is great. They are able to make

2979
02:18:44,959 --> 02:18:48,200
Speaker 1: everything a problem. And I saw a really smart breakdown

2980
02:18:48,240 --> 02:18:50,240
Speaker 1: from Jay Wright last night after the games when I

2981
02:18:50,280 --> 02:18:52,520
Speaker 1: was sitting there watching and he was talking about the

2982
02:18:52,560 --> 02:18:55,520
Speaker 1: fact that you can see where Purdue likes to get

2983
02:18:55,600 --> 02:18:57,800
Speaker 1: Zach e Ed the ball. They know exactly which side,

2984
02:18:57,840 --> 02:19:00,360
Speaker 1: they know exactly where nobody else has been able to

2985
02:19:00,360 --> 02:19:02,720
Speaker 1: stop it. Purdue has not played a team like Tennessee.

2986
02:19:02,720 --> 02:19:05,120
Speaker 1: Tennessee will stop it. I think Tennessee is headed to

2987
02:19:05,160 --> 02:19:09,039
Speaker 1: the Final four. I think that this Purdue run has

2988
02:19:09,080 --> 02:19:10,840
Speaker 1: been a bit of a house of cards in this

2989
02:19:10,920 --> 02:19:13,840
Speaker 1: year's tournament. They've lucked out taking on some teams that

2990
02:19:13,879 --> 02:19:16,120
Speaker 1: I think were a bad matchup. Tennessee is not a

2991
02:19:16,120 --> 02:19:19,120
Speaker 1: bad matchup for don't bank on Purdue to get to

2992
02:19:19,160 --> 02:19:19,760
Speaker 1: the Final four.

2993
02:19:19,840 --> 02:19:23,000
Speaker 2: No, Tennessee is too athletic on the wing for Purdue

2994
02:19:23,000 --> 02:19:25,960
Speaker 2: in the Purduce backcourt. And we say, going into the tournament,

2995
02:19:25,959 --> 02:19:27,920
Speaker 2: we knew that Zach eats the you know, the engine

2996
02:19:27,959 --> 02:19:30,160
Speaker 2: that makes them go, but you know it's a lawyer

2997
02:19:30,160 --> 02:19:32,360
Speaker 2: at smith is their backcourt being able to make shots,

2998
02:19:32,360 --> 02:19:35,240
Speaker 2: which they were able to do on Friday night. But

2999
02:19:35,680 --> 02:19:38,880
Speaker 2: they're overmatched from an athleticism standpoint against Tennessee. And I

3000
02:19:38,879 --> 02:19:41,600
Speaker 2: thought Creighton necessarily wasn't but then when they when they

3001
02:19:41,600 --> 02:19:44,359
Speaker 2: put the clamps down on them, Creighton was just overwhelmed.

3002
02:19:44,800 --> 02:19:46,720
Speaker 2: They just were they had They had no answer whatsoever

3003
02:19:46,800 --> 02:19:50,200
Speaker 2: offensively and couldn't score when they needed to. And Purdue

3004
02:19:50,240 --> 02:19:52,680
Speaker 2: just can't match up to the athletes that Tennessee has,

3005
02:19:52,720 --> 02:19:54,000
Speaker 2: so I'm with you on that one too. I don't

3006
02:19:54,000 --> 02:19:56,840
Speaker 2: think we've descended on any of these. I think we're

3007
02:19:56,879 --> 02:19:58,560
Speaker 2: one hundred percent agreement across the board.

3008
02:19:58,959 --> 02:20:02,520
Speaker 1: Think about this, right, when you just look at the

3009
02:20:02,560 --> 02:20:06,959
Speaker 1: overall numbers here from Creyton, they had they out rebounded

3010
02:20:07,440 --> 02:20:08,840
Speaker 1: or no, it was closed. There was thirty four to

3011
02:20:08,840 --> 02:20:12,880
Speaker 1: thirty six, so comparable in rebounds in every possible way, comparable.

3012
02:20:13,080 --> 02:20:16,240
Speaker 1: They outshot them. They did everything the right way. They

3013
02:20:16,280 --> 02:20:18,840
Speaker 1: hit ninety two percent of their free throws, only going

3014
02:20:18,879 --> 02:20:22,000
Speaker 1: to the line thirteen times. Crayton did everything right. The

3015
02:20:22,040 --> 02:20:25,240
Speaker 1: thing of it is Tennessee exhausts you over the course

3016
02:20:25,280 --> 02:20:29,200
Speaker 1: of the game because they play such sticky defense from

3017
02:20:29,360 --> 02:20:32,120
Speaker 1: tip to the end buzzer, and that's really part of

3018
02:20:32,160 --> 02:20:35,800
Speaker 1: their that that's part of their identity. That identity is

3019
02:20:35,840 --> 02:20:37,520
Speaker 1: what I think is going to carry him in this matchup.

3020
02:20:37,760 --> 02:20:39,920
Speaker 1: Creyton should have been able to shoot, should have been

3021
02:20:39,920 --> 02:20:41,560
Speaker 1: able to spread the ball around, should have been able

3022
02:20:41,560 --> 02:20:43,920
Speaker 1: to make life difficult for Tennessee. They couldn't do any

3023
02:20:43,959 --> 02:20:46,119
Speaker 1: of that. And it's a reminder. When Dalton connect transferred

3024
02:20:46,120 --> 02:20:48,600
Speaker 1: to Tennessee, he said the reason he wanted to transfer

3025
02:20:48,640 --> 02:20:50,680
Speaker 1: there is he knew his defense wasn't good enough to

3026
02:20:50,720 --> 02:20:52,880
Speaker 1: play in the NBA, and he thought that Tennessee could

3027
02:20:52,920 --> 02:20:54,959
Speaker 1: do that for him. They have done that because that's

3028
02:20:55,000 --> 02:20:58,080
Speaker 1: the style of their team. Like right now, I don't

3029
02:20:58,080 --> 02:21:00,320
Speaker 1: know that. I like, I feel like there's a really

3030
02:21:00,400 --> 02:21:02,440
Speaker 1: good chance that by the time we're on the air

3031
02:21:02,480 --> 02:21:04,680
Speaker 1: next week we're talking about whether or not Tennessee's headed

3032
02:21:04,720 --> 02:21:07,840
Speaker 1: to a national championship. I think they could easily beat

3033
02:21:07,920 --> 02:21:10,680
Speaker 1: Duke and suddenly they have to take on Yukon. Yukon's

3034
02:21:10,680 --> 02:21:13,320
Speaker 1: a jugg or not. But man, I like Tennessee the

3035
02:21:13,360 --> 02:21:14,800
Speaker 1: rest of the way through this tournament. Yeah.

3036
02:21:14,800 --> 02:21:17,199
Speaker 2: The missing piece for any rig Barnes team has always

3037
02:21:17,200 --> 02:21:20,000
Speaker 2: been someone who can score just score points in general.

3038
02:21:20,080 --> 02:21:23,199
Speaker 2: He always has phenomenal defensive teams. Going back to Texas,

3039
02:21:23,200 --> 02:21:25,280
Speaker 2: that was always, you know, the big thing for him.

3040
02:21:25,280 --> 02:21:28,320
Speaker 2: But outside of you know, Alla Marcus Aldridge here and there,

3041
02:21:28,440 --> 02:21:29,920
Speaker 2: they just had nobody that can put the ball in

3042
02:21:29,959 --> 02:21:31,600
Speaker 2: the basket. And he was a big that was relying

3043
02:21:31,640 --> 02:21:34,040
Speaker 2: on people getting in the ball. Connect is, he's a

3044
02:21:34,040 --> 02:21:35,760
Speaker 2: guy that also is relying on getting the ball from

3045
02:21:35,800 --> 02:21:37,520
Speaker 2: other people. But he can shoot from the outside. He's

3046
02:21:37,520 --> 02:21:40,160
Speaker 2: a catching shoe guy. And Kay Ziggler has been amazing

3047
02:21:40,160 --> 02:21:41,720
Speaker 2: for them too in the back court, so you got

3048
02:21:41,760 --> 02:21:43,320
Speaker 2: him going as well. I think he scored eighteen to

3049
02:21:43,320 --> 02:21:46,160
Speaker 2: twenty points on Friday as well. That's just a tough

3050
02:21:46,360 --> 02:21:48,400
Speaker 2: one to two punch for anybody to match up with.

3051
02:21:48,480 --> 02:21:50,720
Speaker 2: So I'm in agreement with you. If they end up

3052
02:21:50,760 --> 02:21:53,680
Speaker 2: beating Purdue, I think they can actually make light work

3053
02:21:53,720 --> 02:21:54,520
Speaker 2: of Duke next weekend.

3054
02:21:54,600 --> 02:21:58,120
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, yeah, I just I can't tell, though,

3055
02:21:58,160 --> 02:22:00,760
Speaker 1: I like, can I be honest for any of us?

3056
02:22:01,280 --> 02:22:02,840
Speaker 1: You know, we're just gonna sit down, We're gonna have

3057
02:22:02,840 --> 02:22:04,920
Speaker 1: a piece of honesty cake together. It all comes back

3058
02:22:04,920 --> 02:22:07,640
Speaker 1: to cake. And when I'm like four slices in to

3059
02:22:07,720 --> 02:22:09,600
Speaker 1: my honesty cake because I'm eating the who damn thing,

3060
02:22:09,760 --> 02:22:12,240
Speaker 1: I just look over at you and I'm like figgy man.

3061
02:22:12,280 --> 02:22:14,560
Speaker 1: I just I think maybe I hate to Duke too

3062
02:22:14,680 --> 02:22:18,680
Speaker 1: much to be objected. I don't know a lot. Look, look,

3063
02:22:18,760 --> 02:22:21,760
Speaker 1: we all have everybody has that one team. Everybody has

3064
02:22:21,800 --> 02:22:24,680
Speaker 1: the one team that is just the that's the one

3065
02:22:25,000 --> 02:22:27,120
Speaker 1: that's the one that gets them bob boiling. It's Duke

3066
02:22:27,200 --> 02:22:30,680
Speaker 1: for me, you know, it's Duke. So maybe maybe I'm

3067
02:22:30,760 --> 02:22:34,240
Speaker 1: just manifesting, even though I don't believe in manifest Like,

3068
02:22:34,480 --> 02:22:37,600
Speaker 1: maybe I'm just manifesting the balls to be able to

3069
02:22:37,640 --> 02:22:39,120
Speaker 1: take down Duke because I want to make sure that

3070
02:22:39,160 --> 02:22:41,800
Speaker 1: there's plenty of ways. But at the same time, I

3071
02:22:42,160 --> 02:22:44,520
Speaker 1: don't mind. I mean, I've watched Duke lose one national

3072
02:22:44,600 --> 02:22:46,760
Speaker 1: championship by thirty points as a kid. I wouldn't mind

3073
02:22:46,800 --> 02:22:49,520
Speaker 1: lose them. See the watch them lose another one.

3074
02:22:49,560 --> 02:22:50,120
Speaker 3: That's what it is.

3075
02:22:50,160 --> 02:22:52,680
Speaker 2: See the joy is not seeing them get knocked out

3076
02:22:52,680 --> 02:22:55,400
Speaker 2: in the first round by VCU. The joys have them

3077
02:22:55,640 --> 02:22:58,360
Speaker 2: get to the precipice of winning a championship and getting

3078
02:22:58,400 --> 02:23:00,720
Speaker 2: the doors blown off of them. That's where it really

3079
02:23:00,760 --> 02:23:03,320
Speaker 2: comes and that's where it hurts the most. That's where

3080
02:23:03,320 --> 02:23:04,360
Speaker 2: the hate really comes out.

3081
02:23:04,640 --> 02:23:07,000
Speaker 1: You're not wrong, And yeah, why don't you know? I'm right?

3082
02:23:09,080 --> 02:23:11,760
Speaker 1: I got one VHS take from my entire childhood. It

3083
02:23:11,760 --> 02:23:14,240
Speaker 1: says UNLV Duke one O three seventy three. All right,

3084
02:23:14,720 --> 02:23:16,879
Speaker 1: it's a Fox Sports Saturday Live from the tyrack dot

3085
02:23:16,879 --> 02:23:18,840
Speaker 1: Com studios. Figure get us caught up with what's going

3086
02:23:18,840 --> 02:23:19,400
Speaker 1: on in the world.

3087
02:23:19,400 --> 02:23:21,800
Speaker 2: All right, we're talking college too, speaking at Tennessee. Yes,

3088
02:23:21,840 --> 02:23:24,119
Speaker 2: they did advance to the Elite eight. They defeated Creighton

3089
02:23:24,200 --> 02:23:26,640
Speaker 2: eighty two to seventy five as we mentioned, and we'll

3090
02:23:26,640 --> 02:23:29,680
Speaker 2: face top seed at Purdue on Sunday, boiler Makers beating

3091
02:23:29,760 --> 02:23:31,680
Speaker 2: up on Gonzaga eighty to sixty eight.

3092
02:23:31,959 --> 02:23:34,160
Speaker 3: It'll be an all acc Elite eight matchup.

3093
02:23:34,160 --> 02:23:36,040
Speaker 2: In the South region, as we mentioned as well, Duke

3094
02:23:36,040 --> 02:23:38,520
Speaker 2: out lasted top seed at Houston and eleven seed at

3095
02:23:38,520 --> 02:23:41,320
Speaker 2: INC State, upsetting Marquette, who was the two seed on

3096
02:23:41,360 --> 02:23:44,920
Speaker 2: the women's side. Texas dominated Gonzaga, South Carolina survived a

3097
02:23:44,959 --> 02:23:48,400
Speaker 2: scare against Indiana to remain undefeated. A ten point victory

3098
02:23:48,400 --> 02:23:51,200
Speaker 2: for NC State over Stanford, while Oregon State upset Notre

3099
02:23:51,320 --> 02:23:54,320
Speaker 2: Dame earlier in the day. In the NBA victor Winbinyama

3100
02:23:54,400 --> 02:23:57,520
Speaker 2: forty points twenty rebounds for the Spurs in an overtime

3101
02:23:57,520 --> 02:23:59,840
Speaker 2: win over the Knicks. New York did get sixty one

3102
02:24:00,000 --> 02:24:03,080
Speaker 2: points from Jalen Brunson in the loss, Dallas beating Sacramento

3103
02:24:03,160 --> 02:24:06,320
Speaker 2: one O seven to one O. Three wins from Minnesota, Cleveland,

3104
02:24:06,560 --> 02:24:09,879
Speaker 2: and Indiana, who defeated the Lakers one oh nine to ninety.

3105
02:24:10,360 --> 02:24:11,480
Speaker 3: Back to the Fellas.

3106
02:24:13,040 --> 02:24:16,320
Speaker 1: So Fellaws on Fox Sports Radio, Coming at you from

3107
02:24:16,560 --> 02:24:19,560
Speaker 1: the tirak dot Com Studios, Kevin Figures, Jason fitz we

3108
02:24:19,640 --> 02:24:22,160
Speaker 1: got Ian, we got Mighty Mark, we got everybody hanging out. Figure.

3109
02:24:22,160 --> 02:24:23,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you a tough question, all right, because

3110
02:24:23,879 --> 02:24:27,600
Speaker 1: we've been talking a lot about college basketball, and I

3111
02:24:27,600 --> 02:24:30,760
Speaker 1: think I've been effusive in my praise over the course

3112
02:24:30,760 --> 02:24:34,640
Speaker 1: of this entire show for the state of women's college basketball.

3113
02:24:34,640 --> 02:24:37,280
Speaker 1: Would you agree that I have been wildly full of

3114
02:24:37,280 --> 02:24:39,560
Speaker 1: praise throughout the course of this for the sport, for

3115
02:24:39,640 --> 02:24:42,160
Speaker 1: the condition of the sport, for the athletes that are

3116
02:24:42,160 --> 02:24:43,840
Speaker 1: playing it, and for the attention being.

3117
02:24:43,680 --> 02:24:45,600
Speaker 3: Given to it to this very point in time. Yes,

3118
02:24:45,640 --> 02:24:45,840
Speaker 3: you have.

3119
02:24:46,160 --> 02:24:48,200
Speaker 1: Okay, good, now that we've established that I could be

3120
02:24:48,200 --> 02:24:52,160
Speaker 1: a bad guy, I'm just I'm thinking about this because

3121
02:24:52,360 --> 02:24:55,760
Speaker 1: as much as I've been sitting here talking about attention, attention, attention, attention,

3122
02:24:56,760 --> 02:25:00,000
Speaker 1: Caitlyn Clark is generational and the attention that she generates,

3123
02:25:00,240 --> 02:25:02,240
Speaker 1: I think we can all agree with that, rightfully. So

3124
02:25:03,080 --> 02:25:05,880
Speaker 1: Gino wasn't the only one that's come out and said,

3125
02:25:05,920 --> 02:25:08,680
Speaker 1: you know, hey, Paige Beckers is the best player in

3126
02:25:08,680 --> 02:25:12,000
Speaker 1: women's college basketball right now. He's biased, But yeah, but

3127
02:25:12,080 --> 02:25:15,760
Speaker 1: we forget that page is even still going out and

3128
02:25:15,800 --> 02:25:20,520
Speaker 1: dominating because she's not the same level of attention as

3129
02:25:20,800 --> 02:25:23,560
Speaker 1: a Caitlyn and as an Angel, largely because as I

3130
02:25:23,560 --> 02:25:26,879
Speaker 1: said earlier, I think Caitlyn Angel has become this rivalry

3131
02:25:26,959 --> 02:25:30,000
Speaker 1: of two greats that you know, the women's game and

3132
02:25:30,080 --> 02:25:32,680
Speaker 1: the college level could look at for a generation as

3133
02:25:32,800 --> 02:25:35,920
Speaker 1: Larry versus Magic, right, like it is this great like

3134
02:25:36,400 --> 02:25:40,080
Speaker 1: the different styles, different types of individuals, different players, Like

3135
02:25:40,160 --> 02:25:44,520
Speaker 1: it's it's this great moment. As much as we're talking

3136
02:25:44,600 --> 02:25:48,320
Speaker 1: about the attention to the women's game, I do genuinely

3137
02:25:48,360 --> 02:25:51,120
Speaker 1: wonder how sustainable that's going to be. I'm saying this

3138
02:25:51,360 --> 02:25:54,240
Speaker 1: very carefully and knowing that like Juju Watkins at the

3139
02:25:54,320 --> 02:25:57,920
Speaker 1: USC is a superstar playing. There's no doubt about it.

3140
02:25:57,959 --> 02:26:01,360
Speaker 1: Is being a superstar player going to be sustainable enough

3141
02:26:01,560 --> 02:26:04,480
Speaker 1: to continue what we're seeing right now. Like I think

3142
02:26:04,480 --> 02:26:07,120
Speaker 1: the growth of women's college basketball is undeniable, and the

3143
02:26:07,120 --> 02:26:10,959
Speaker 1: growth of the w is undeniable, but the meteoric growth

3144
02:26:11,400 --> 02:26:14,600
Speaker 1: eventually has to slow down. And I wonder when Caitlyn

3145
02:26:14,640 --> 02:26:17,720
Speaker 1: moves to the WNBA in a year, are we still,

3146
02:26:17,800 --> 02:26:21,920
Speaker 1: as I don't know, obsessed with how transcendent women's college

3147
02:26:21,920 --> 02:26:22,600
Speaker 1: basketball is.

3148
02:26:22,720 --> 02:26:25,600
Speaker 2: I think so because so the issue is with there's

3149
02:26:25,640 --> 02:26:27,440
Speaker 2: been more exposure. I don't think it's been for the

3150
02:26:27,520 --> 02:26:29,760
Speaker 2: lack of talent. I mean, I mean, you go back

3151
02:26:29,760 --> 02:26:32,039
Speaker 2: to throughout years. I'm going to go back to Britney Griner,

3152
02:26:32,240 --> 02:26:34,720
Speaker 2: go back. I mean, there's been so many phenomenal women's

3153
02:26:34,720 --> 02:26:37,240
Speaker 2: basketball players over the years. I just think that they're

3154
02:26:37,240 --> 02:26:40,760
Speaker 2: getting the amount of exposure now that they didn't before. Now,

3155
02:26:40,840 --> 02:26:43,560
Speaker 2: Kaitlin Clark is other worldly. Obviously breaking the all time

3156
02:26:43,600 --> 02:26:47,360
Speaker 2: scoring record, that's different, but the fact that they're actually

3157
02:26:47,400 --> 02:26:51,160
Speaker 2: being you know, getting the shine on television and getting

3158
02:26:51,200 --> 02:26:54,240
Speaker 2: national exposure, being talked about on national radio like we're

3159
02:26:54,240 --> 02:26:56,840
Speaker 2: doing right now. I think just shine's a bigger spotlight

3160
02:26:57,160 --> 02:27:00,000
Speaker 2: on talented women who have been around for the longest

3161
02:27:00,080 --> 02:27:02,280
Speaker 2: year at of time, but they've been largely ignored. And

3162
02:27:02,320 --> 02:27:04,680
Speaker 2: by the way, Page Becker's was the talk of the

3163
02:27:04,720 --> 02:27:06,960
Speaker 2: town for three years ago, but she's had a couple

3164
02:27:07,000 --> 02:27:09,360
Speaker 2: of devastating injuries and so she kind of just fell

3165
02:27:09,360 --> 02:27:12,120
Speaker 2: out of the spotlight. So she kind of is on

3166
02:27:12,520 --> 02:27:14,480
Speaker 2: her redemption to her to try to get her spotlight back.

3167
02:27:14,520 --> 02:27:14,680
Speaker 1: Here.

3168
02:27:14,760 --> 02:27:17,879
Speaker 2: To your point, she's kind of the forgotten woman in

3169
02:27:17,959 --> 02:27:21,120
Speaker 2: this entire equation but it's not necessarily her fault, and

3170
02:27:21,120 --> 02:27:22,879
Speaker 2: it's not even the fault of Kaitlyn Clark or Juji

3171
02:27:22,879 --> 02:27:24,960
Speaker 2: Watkins or anybody else. Is just that she just hasn't

3172
02:27:25,000 --> 02:27:28,000
Speaker 2: been around, and now that she's back, I think Gino

3173
02:27:28,120 --> 02:27:29,920
Speaker 2: is right that she's definitely one of the best players

3174
02:27:29,920 --> 02:27:31,320
Speaker 2: in the country. I don't know if she's better than

3175
02:27:31,360 --> 02:27:33,920
Speaker 2: Kaitlyn Clark, but she's certainly, you know, putting her name

3176
02:27:33,959 --> 02:27:36,720
Speaker 2: back into the conversation for sure what's.

3177
02:27:36,520 --> 02:27:40,000
Speaker 1: Interesting to me, because yeah, I mean, I've interviewed Paige

3178
02:27:40,040 --> 02:27:44,160
Speaker 1: several times, and she's a dynamic personality and an incredible

3179
02:27:44,160 --> 02:27:48,199
Speaker 1: talent and a great player. For whatever reason, the Caitlin

3180
02:27:48,240 --> 02:27:51,640
Speaker 1: bubble has been such an incredible one that it almost

3181
02:27:51,720 --> 02:27:54,680
Speaker 1: feels like that's impossible to replicate to me, like that

3182
02:27:54,760 --> 02:27:56,800
Speaker 1: this maybe me be in a cynic, but you're right,

3183
02:27:56,840 --> 02:27:58,880
Speaker 1: there is more talent than ever across the board. I

3184
02:27:58,879 --> 02:28:01,680
Speaker 1: think that's part of why the women's game is becoming

3185
02:28:01,680 --> 02:28:03,920
Speaker 1: so interesting is because for years you could just go

3186
02:28:04,040 --> 02:28:06,000
Speaker 1: chalk and you knew that it was going to be

3187
02:28:06,120 --> 02:28:08,240
Speaker 1: one of two or three teams. Like I moved to

3188
02:28:08,320 --> 02:28:11,560
Speaker 1: Nashville during the peak of the pat Summit. Lady Vall's

3189
02:28:11,600 --> 02:28:14,880
Speaker 1: era and just being around Nashville during that time was

3190
02:28:15,200 --> 02:28:20,880
Speaker 1: absolutely wild, seeing the Tennessee Connecticut rivalries. It matters, it

3191
02:28:20,920 --> 02:28:23,520
Speaker 1: matters in the Tennessee region. It didn't feel like it

3192
02:28:23,560 --> 02:28:27,119
Speaker 1: mattered nationally. Now you have more great players than ever

3193
02:28:27,200 --> 02:28:29,800
Speaker 1: playing for more teams than ever, which makes the result

3194
02:28:29,879 --> 02:28:32,680
Speaker 1: less predictable than ever. Those are all great things, but

3195
02:28:32,760 --> 02:28:35,520
Speaker 1: we were in this spot now where you know, you've

3196
02:28:35,560 --> 02:28:39,120
Speaker 1: got ice Cube making offers of five million dollars to

3197
02:28:39,200 --> 02:28:41,920
Speaker 1: get Kaitlin to play the Big Three, which by the way,

3198
02:28:42,000 --> 02:28:44,920
Speaker 1: is insulting to the WNBA and everybody involved in the process.

3199
02:28:44,959 --> 02:28:47,840
Speaker 1: But you have Kaitlin being involved in the or being

3200
02:28:48,120 --> 02:28:49,880
Speaker 1: asked to be part of the national team, all of

3201
02:28:49,920 --> 02:28:54,160
Speaker 1: these things. It's just because she has hit at it.

3202
02:28:54,160 --> 02:28:57,520
Speaker 1: It's this different level of stardom. It's not just about

3203
02:28:57,520 --> 02:29:00,360
Speaker 1: the greatness. It's just a different level of stardom. I

3204
02:29:00,360 --> 02:29:02,280
Speaker 1: think that's really hard to just.

3205
02:29:02,800 --> 02:29:06,199
Speaker 3: Replicate it is, but I think what we might see.

3206
02:29:06,280 --> 02:29:09,600
Speaker 2: You know, whereas Steph Curry kind of created this wave

3207
02:29:09,640 --> 02:29:11,840
Speaker 2: of new player, the Trey Young types you know, who

3208
02:29:11,879 --> 02:29:14,920
Speaker 2: model themselves after him, and Kaitlyn Clarke atmitted League modeled

3209
02:29:14,959 --> 02:29:17,119
Speaker 2: her game after Steph Curry says she grew up watching him.

3210
02:29:17,600 --> 02:29:20,560
Speaker 2: As the basketball world has turned into more of a

3211
02:29:20,640 --> 02:29:24,160
Speaker 2: game of skill and less of brute strength and power,

3212
02:29:24,600 --> 02:29:27,400
Speaker 2: it really lends itself to the women's game being able

3213
02:29:27,440 --> 02:29:30,400
Speaker 2: to flourish. Because if we're talking about people having sick

3214
02:29:30,440 --> 02:29:33,160
Speaker 2: handles and being able to shoot from forty feet, women

3215
02:29:33,200 --> 02:29:35,480
Speaker 2: can do that, can do that too. You know, it's

3216
02:29:35,480 --> 02:29:37,400
Speaker 2: not about high fly acts being able to dunk on

3217
02:29:37,440 --> 02:29:39,280
Speaker 2: people left right, And you guess there's still an element

3218
02:29:39,320 --> 02:29:40,240
Speaker 2: of that in the men's game.

3219
02:29:40,600 --> 02:29:43,640
Speaker 3: But as basketball moves more and more to little.

3220
02:29:43,400 --> 02:29:45,600
Speaker 2: Guys being able to shoot, being able to handle the

3221
02:29:45,640 --> 02:29:49,040
Speaker 2: ball with mastery, those are skill levels that are also

3222
02:29:49,200 --> 02:29:52,000
Speaker 2: transferable to the women's game as well. And if that's

3223
02:29:52,000 --> 02:29:54,160
Speaker 2: what people are looking forward to nowadays, and that's what

3224
02:29:54,160 --> 02:29:56,800
Speaker 2: they're hunting from a highlight standpoint, you can get just

3225
02:29:56,840 --> 02:29:58,400
Speaker 2: as much of that from the women's game as the

3226
02:29:58,440 --> 02:30:01,760
Speaker 2: men's game. So as the women's game continues to grow

3227
02:30:01,800 --> 02:30:04,199
Speaker 2: and more and more talented athletes decide to play basketball

3228
02:30:04,200 --> 02:30:06,760
Speaker 2: as opposed to maybe other sports, there's no reason why

3229
02:30:06,760 --> 02:30:08,120
Speaker 2: I don't think they can ride this way if it

3230
02:30:08,160 --> 02:30:09,000
Speaker 2: continue to ascend.

3231
02:30:09,440 --> 02:30:12,200
Speaker 1: I think it's just an interesting chapter because if you

3232
02:30:12,240 --> 02:30:14,720
Speaker 1: look at the mock drafts right now for the WNBA,

3233
02:30:15,160 --> 02:30:17,880
Speaker 1: Caitlin obviously going one to Indiana. We all know that

3234
02:30:17,879 --> 02:30:20,760
Speaker 1: that's been pretty well publicized. I'm seeing here one that

3235
02:30:20,800 --> 02:30:23,440
Speaker 1: has Angel going to the La Sparks, you know, at

3236
02:30:23,480 --> 02:30:26,400
Speaker 1: the fourth Overall, pick, I love the concept of the

3237
02:30:26,560 --> 02:30:29,880
Speaker 1: Caitlin Angel rivalry, much like Magic and Larry. I think

3238
02:30:29,879 --> 02:30:33,560
Speaker 1: that's why I make that comp going to the next level.

3239
02:30:34,520 --> 02:30:37,680
Speaker 1: It's also going to be a key moment, you know,

3240
02:30:37,879 --> 02:30:41,280
Speaker 1: because Haley's gonna go on. Also, Lsu is gonna have

3241
02:30:41,360 --> 02:30:44,000
Speaker 1: to figure out they're one of the great villains of

3242
02:30:44,040 --> 02:30:44,720
Speaker 1: the sport right now.

3243
02:30:45,400 --> 02:30:47,400
Speaker 3: It's just true Raw their coach is probably more to

3244
02:30:47,400 --> 02:30:48,480
Speaker 3: do with that than any one time.

3245
02:30:49,800 --> 02:30:51,959
Speaker 1: So like they're gonna have to they have a pipeline

3246
02:30:52,000 --> 02:30:54,320
Speaker 1: of a certain type of player, and they'll end up

3247
02:30:54,400 --> 02:30:57,640
Speaker 1: being much like Duke, I think, where everybody that comes

3248
02:30:57,640 --> 02:31:00,760
Speaker 1: in there is automatically perceived. The minute you go play there,

3249
02:31:00,879 --> 02:31:02,240
Speaker 1: you must be you know what I mean. So like

3250
02:31:02,480 --> 02:31:05,800
Speaker 1: I think the pipeline exists, I just don't want to

3251
02:31:05,840 --> 02:31:10,160
Speaker 1: take for granted this chapter because the presumption is always

3252
02:31:10,200 --> 02:31:12,160
Speaker 1: going to be, well, this is a launching pad. I

3253
02:31:12,160 --> 02:31:13,720
Speaker 1: don't know if this is a launching pad or a

3254
02:31:13,720 --> 02:31:15,680
Speaker 1: moment in time, And what I don't want to do

3255
02:31:15,959 --> 02:31:18,039
Speaker 1: is lose sight of the moment in time because I'm

3256
02:31:18,040 --> 02:31:19,280
Speaker 1: presuming it's a launching pad.

3257
02:31:19,600 --> 02:31:19,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

3258
02:31:19,959 --> 02:31:21,800
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we certainly want to make sure that we

3259
02:31:21,879 --> 02:31:24,360
Speaker 2: appreciate what we're watching, you know, with some of the

3260
02:31:24,400 --> 02:31:27,600
Speaker 2: greatest players that the women's game has seen in a

3261
02:31:27,640 --> 02:31:30,959
Speaker 2: long time, all converging together at once. I mean, you

3262
02:31:31,000 --> 02:31:35,160
Speaker 2: mentioned Becker's, you mentioned Juju Watkins, who's just a freshman dominating,

3263
02:31:35,240 --> 02:31:37,760
Speaker 2: dominating the way that she is. We obviously talked about Caitlin.

3264
02:31:38,120 --> 02:31:41,840
Speaker 2: You know, Cameron Brake just got eliminated with Stanford the

3265
02:31:41,840 --> 02:31:43,320
Speaker 2: other night, so we're not gonna be able to see her,

3266
02:31:43,400 --> 02:31:45,280
Speaker 2: but she's also projected to be a top three, top

3267
02:31:45,320 --> 02:31:47,880
Speaker 2: four pick in the upcoming draft. I think it's an

3268
02:31:47,879 --> 02:31:51,000
Speaker 2: exciting time, so I don't disagree that we should definitely

3269
02:31:51,040 --> 02:31:53,480
Speaker 2: pause and you know, take it in, soak in the

3270
02:31:53,480 --> 02:31:56,160
Speaker 2: fact that we're watching some phenomenal players play while also believing.

3271
02:31:56,720 --> 02:31:58,320
Speaker 2: I do think that this is sort of a launching

3272
02:31:58,320 --> 02:32:00,720
Speaker 2: pad to to a great future for women's backasketball as well.

3273
02:32:00,760 --> 02:32:02,200
Speaker 3: So I think we can do a little bit of both.

3274
02:32:02,240 --> 02:32:04,440
Speaker 2: I'm having my cake and eating it too, to bring

3275
02:32:04,440 --> 02:32:05,879
Speaker 2: the conversation back to cake.

3276
02:32:06,080 --> 02:32:08,480
Speaker 1: It always comes back to cake. I appreciate that about you.

3277
02:32:08,560 --> 02:32:11,640
Speaker 1: And by the way, I also appreciate the fact that

3278
02:32:12,000 --> 02:32:13,680
Speaker 1: we're in a spot. And I started the show by

3279
02:32:13,680 --> 02:32:17,400
Speaker 1: saying this where when I open up YouTube, instead of

3280
02:32:17,400 --> 02:32:19,480
Speaker 1: having to make choices, when I open up YouTube and

3281
02:32:19,480 --> 02:32:21,800
Speaker 1: it gets me the multiview. Yesterday, it gave me the

3282
02:32:21,840 --> 02:32:24,320
Speaker 1: multiview with the option of the men's and women's together

3283
02:32:24,400 --> 02:32:27,280
Speaker 1: in one multiview. That is that's the ultimate win. The

3284
02:32:27,360 --> 02:32:29,680
Speaker 1: ultimate win through all of this is when we are

3285
02:32:29,680 --> 02:32:32,640
Speaker 1: simply fans of college basketball, and it doesn't matter whether

3286
02:32:32,680 --> 02:32:35,560
Speaker 1: it's men's or women's. It's something we're all flocking to, like,

3287
02:32:35,600 --> 02:32:37,400
Speaker 1: that's what's best for the game, that's what's best for

3288
02:32:37,440 --> 02:32:40,040
Speaker 1: the stars, that's what's best for the growth. And that's

3289
02:32:40,080 --> 02:32:42,320
Speaker 1: how it continues, I think, to grow throughout the course

3290
02:32:42,360 --> 02:32:45,800
Speaker 1: of this weekend. Even seeing just the opportunity to watch

3291
02:32:45,840 --> 02:32:48,760
Speaker 1: all of these games at once with no discernment to

3292
02:32:48,840 --> 02:32:51,480
Speaker 1: which type of basketball it is, I figure that's the

3293
02:32:51,520 --> 02:32:53,080
Speaker 1: ultimate wine.

3294
02:32:53,800 --> 02:32:54,920
Speaker 3: Agree. I'm right there with.

3295
02:32:54,840 --> 02:32:57,840
Speaker 1: You, all right, So we're gonna keep breaking down obviously

3296
02:32:57,879 --> 02:33:00,920
Speaker 1: what to watch this weekend because it is a dact weekend,

3297
02:33:01,240 --> 02:33:03,680
Speaker 1: Plus the most important question that's ever been asked in

3298
02:33:03,720 --> 02:33:07,000
Speaker 1: the history of Easter candies. We're gonna do all that

3299
02:33:07,000 --> 02:33:09,400
Speaker 1: plus more on the Fox Sports Saturday Live from the

3300
02:33:09,400 --> 02:33:12,240
Speaker 1: ti rack dot Com Studios. It's the Fellas Fox Sports Radio.

3301
02:33:13,240 --> 02:33:15,560
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3302
02:33:15,640 --> 02:33:19,960
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3303
02:33:20,480 --> 02:33:23,800
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3304
02:33:23,840 --> 02:33:27,720
Speaker 1: do every single Saturday from five am to nine am.

3305
02:33:27,959 --> 02:33:29,920
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3306
02:33:30,000 --> 02:33:31,520
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3307
02:33:31,560 --> 02:33:34,160
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3308
02:33:34,160 --> 02:33:36,480
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3309
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3310
02:33:38,280 --> 02:33:40,840
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3311
02:33:40,879 --> 02:33:42,920
Speaker 1: Sports Radio wherever you get your pods. You'll see this

3312
02:33:42,959 --> 02:33:46,279
Speaker 1: show posted right after we get off the air. Figie,

3313
02:33:46,480 --> 02:33:49,800
Speaker 1: can we can we have an important Easter conversation here now?

3314
02:33:49,840 --> 02:33:50,680
Speaker 3: Oh let's please?

3315
02:33:50,720 --> 02:33:54,040
Speaker 1: All right, So Reese's peanut butter cups. This is really

3316
02:33:54,120 --> 02:33:56,640
Speaker 1: this is gonna lead me to eggs. Okay, because here's

3317
02:33:56,680 --> 02:33:59,200
Speaker 1: the thing. The Reese's peanut butter cup as it is

3318
02:33:59,440 --> 02:34:02,720
Speaker 1: like the bag sick normal reesis peanut butter cup. Yes,

3319
02:34:02,800 --> 02:34:06,240
Speaker 1: the perfect ratio of peanut butter to chocolate. So any

3320
02:34:06,360 --> 02:34:08,520
Speaker 1: of the other shapes I've always been out on. So

3321
02:34:08,600 --> 02:34:11,440
Speaker 1: like the Christmas tree ones, oh okay, like I'm out

3322
02:34:11,440 --> 02:34:13,959
Speaker 1: of the ratio is different. But the other day I'm

3323
02:34:14,000 --> 02:34:15,920
Speaker 1: walking through the store and they got like a little

3324
02:34:15,920 --> 02:34:20,480
Speaker 1: Cadbury cream eggshi like Reese's egg that's that's stuffed with

3325
02:34:20,520 --> 02:34:23,200
Speaker 1: the peanut butter. It wasn't the same ratio, so it

3326
02:34:23,240 --> 02:34:26,039
Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily as good, but it was a close second,

3327
02:34:26,120 --> 02:34:28,840
Speaker 1: like the full egg, not not like the lay half

3328
02:34:28,879 --> 02:34:31,560
Speaker 1: egg that's like a weird shaped egg that's like the big. No,

3329
02:34:31,720 --> 02:34:34,640
Speaker 1: I've had the big those are the wrong ratio. But

3330
02:34:34,680 --> 02:34:37,480
Speaker 1: the ones that actually looked like the Cadbury cream eg

3331
02:34:37,520 --> 02:34:40,680
Speaker 1: in the little like individual foil wrapping, it's pretty good.

3332
02:34:40,840 --> 02:34:43,400
Speaker 1: So I'm just here's it's. My favorite candy is a

3333
02:34:43,440 --> 02:34:45,640
Speaker 1: recis like or my favorite chocolate thing is a Reese's

3334
02:34:45,640 --> 02:34:46,200
Speaker 1: peanut butter cup.

3335
02:34:46,200 --> 02:34:47,920
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have taken you as a candy snob, so

3336
02:34:47,959 --> 02:34:50,039
Speaker 2: that's why I, you know, a little taken aback.

3337
02:34:50,080 --> 02:34:54,800
Speaker 1: Okay, I a fact hit at heart. My My candy

3338
02:34:55,040 --> 02:34:58,080
Speaker 1: snobbery is usually I made fun of often from my

3339
02:34:58,200 --> 02:35:00,440
Speaker 1: love of things like Mike and Ikes and spice drops

3340
02:35:00,480 --> 02:35:01,920
Speaker 1: and old people.

3341
02:35:01,680 --> 02:35:05,240
Speaker 3: Can't dorouble on me? Yep out on the mic and ikes?

3342
02:35:05,879 --> 02:35:07,440
Speaker 1: How can you be out of mic and ikes? Who

3343
02:35:07,480 --> 02:35:08,520
Speaker 1: was out of mic and ikes?

3344
02:35:08,840 --> 02:35:11,840
Speaker 3: Just kind of borings not much to them? I'm out.

3345
02:35:12,080 --> 02:35:12,200
Speaker 6: Uh.

3346
02:35:12,760 --> 02:35:15,400
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that change dot org years ago was

3347
02:35:15,400 --> 02:35:17,800
Speaker 1: for real things, and I started a whole petition at

3348
02:35:17,840 --> 02:35:20,520
Speaker 1: the time to get lime skittles brought back, as nobody

3349
02:35:20,520 --> 02:35:22,560
Speaker 1: wants sour apple in that. So I feel like I

3350
02:35:22,600 --> 02:35:24,840
Speaker 1: really changed America when they brought the lime ones back.

3351
02:35:24,879 --> 02:35:26,120
Speaker 1: I think how many? So?

3352
02:35:26,160 --> 02:35:27,360
Speaker 3: How many signatures did you get?

3353
02:35:27,720 --> 02:35:31,800
Speaker 1: Dozens? It turns out I didn't realize that at the

3354
02:35:31,840 --> 02:35:34,080
Speaker 1: time that that was for actual, real causes.

3355
02:35:33,720 --> 02:35:36,960
Speaker 7: And real ways to change from house to house getting sandwichees?

3356
02:35:37,000 --> 02:35:39,600
Speaker 3: Do you find yourself missing the green apple skittles now?

3357
02:35:39,600 --> 02:35:42,400
Speaker 1: Though? Fits no? God, no like see the perfection of

3358
02:35:42,440 --> 02:35:45,560
Speaker 1: skittles is that in a dark theater, for example, you

3359
02:35:45,600 --> 02:35:47,520
Speaker 1: can just cramb a bunch of in your hand shove

3360
02:35:47,560 --> 02:35:49,480
Speaker 1: in your mouth and they all go together. The sour

3361
02:35:49,560 --> 02:35:53,000
Speaker 1: apple was disgusting and it changed that entire mix. Plus

3362
02:35:53,400 --> 02:35:57,000
Speaker 1: sour apple in general is a gross flavor. So you

3363
02:35:57,040 --> 02:35:59,560
Speaker 1: took something perfect taste the rainbow, and he made it

3364
02:35:59,600 --> 02:36:02,400
Speaker 1: taste the blanky rainbow. And the blanky is the word

3365
02:36:02,440 --> 02:36:06,680
Speaker 1: that I can't say, poopy. It's the poopy, the poopy rainbow.

3366
02:36:07,000 --> 02:36:10,640
Speaker 1: Ian are you a big Are we big on the that'?

3367
02:36:11,560 --> 02:36:11,840
Speaker 3: No?

3368
02:36:11,840 --> 02:36:14,160
Speaker 6: No, I mean I don't feel a certain type of

3369
02:36:14,160 --> 02:36:16,400
Speaker 6: way about the sour apple. I just remember I don't

3370
02:36:16,440 --> 02:36:20,320
Speaker 6: remember hating it, but I was pleasantly surprised to see

3371
02:36:20,360 --> 02:36:22,400
Speaker 6: the line was back for sure. So I guess I

3372
02:36:22,440 --> 02:36:23,760
Speaker 6: have you to thank for that.

3373
02:36:23,840 --> 02:36:27,400
Speaker 1: You're welcome in America. Fix this. Where are we on

3374
02:36:27,480 --> 02:36:30,080
Speaker 1: the cabaret creamkes, because that's a very polarizing thing. Like

3375
02:36:30,160 --> 02:36:33,680
Speaker 1: I like the traditional caborey creameg, Like I'll have one

3376
02:36:33,760 --> 02:36:36,680
Speaker 1: or two here or there, but it's not something I crave. Figgy.

3377
02:36:36,800 --> 02:36:38,400
Speaker 1: Is is that like a go to for you?

3378
02:36:38,480 --> 02:36:39,160
Speaker 3: It's not a go to.

3379
02:36:39,320 --> 02:36:41,960
Speaker 2: If it's laying around somewhere, I'll have a Caburrey creameg,

3380
02:36:41,959 --> 02:36:43,640
Speaker 2: but it's not something i'll go out of my way

3381
02:36:43,800 --> 02:36:46,359
Speaker 2: to get you know, it's not really one of my favorites.

3382
02:36:46,400 --> 02:36:50,240
Speaker 6: I'd say I think those gross road line Yeah, I'm

3383
02:36:50,280 --> 02:36:51,119
Speaker 6: not a fan of those.

3384
02:36:51,959 --> 02:36:54,520
Speaker 7: The gross ones for me are the peeps just chocolate. No,

3385
02:36:54,640 --> 02:36:57,720
Speaker 7: you know peeps either. I can't do chocolate chocolate peanut butter.

3386
02:36:57,800 --> 02:37:00,080
Speaker 7: That's the reasons stuff. But that's I'll just stick with that.

3387
02:37:00,920 --> 02:37:03,640
Speaker 1: Can I hit ch'all with the most polarizing candy take

3388
02:37:03,680 --> 02:37:05,800
Speaker 1: of all takes? For me, I'm just I just hope

3389
02:37:05,800 --> 02:37:07,959
Speaker 1: our friendship can handle this. Are we ready for this one?

3390
02:37:08,160 --> 02:37:09,280
Speaker 3: Embracing myself.

3391
02:37:09,680 --> 02:37:12,560
Speaker 1: I was at Walmart last week and walking through the

3392
02:37:12,560 --> 02:37:16,119
Speaker 1: candy aisle, and I saw that they sold a bag

3393
02:37:16,320 --> 02:37:20,199
Speaker 1: of all black jelly beans and I bought all of them.

3394
02:37:20,200 --> 02:37:22,640
Speaker 3: Oh, I bought all the black liquoricees.

3395
02:37:23,000 --> 02:37:26,760
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, regular black liquorice itself, like the twizzler shape.

3396
02:37:26,840 --> 02:37:30,320
Speaker 1: Not good. Black jelly beans the best flavor of jelly bean,

3397
02:37:30,360 --> 02:37:34,000
Speaker 1: and it's not even close. That's a hot take right now,

3398
02:37:34,000 --> 02:37:36,920
Speaker 1: No on jelly bean, Wait, no on all jelly beans.

3399
02:37:36,959 --> 02:37:39,200
Speaker 7: Don't correct, No on jelly bean.

3400
02:37:39,840 --> 02:37:41,640
Speaker 1: Did the easter bunny hurt you? How can you be.

3401
02:37:41,560 --> 02:37:45,080
Speaker 6: Out agree with that one? But but the black liquorice,

3402
02:37:45,160 --> 02:37:45,560
Speaker 6: I know.

3403
02:37:45,720 --> 02:37:47,080
Speaker 3: I can't. I can't get behind that.

3404
02:37:47,360 --> 02:37:49,600
Speaker 2: I'm kind of with Mark. I'm indifferent about the jelly

3405
02:37:49,600 --> 02:37:51,320
Speaker 2: beans as well. I can take him leieve.

3406
02:37:51,160 --> 02:37:52,840
Speaker 7: Them, not indifferent.

3407
02:37:53,160 --> 02:37:57,440
Speaker 2: No jelly bean marks thousand percent out. Mark's taking the

3408
02:37:57,520 --> 02:37:58,840
Speaker 2: jelly beans and pelting you with them.

3409
02:37:58,840 --> 02:37:59,520
Speaker 3: That's what he's doing.

3410
02:38:00,240 --> 02:38:04,480
Speaker 7: The peeps, and keep the jelly beans. No licorice, stay away.

3411
02:38:05,360 --> 02:38:08,240
Speaker 1: I am. I think the final number of bags that

3412
02:38:08,280 --> 02:38:10,039
Speaker 1: I bought was twenty two, because I like, I bought

3413
02:38:10,080 --> 02:38:12,800
Speaker 1: them all two. When you give me all black jelly beans, like, look,

3414
02:38:12,840 --> 02:38:14,840
Speaker 1: they're jelly beans, will be good for like eighteen years.

3415
02:38:14,840 --> 02:38:17,000
Speaker 1: We can go through a zombie apocalypse. I'll be able

3416
02:38:17,040 --> 02:38:18,680
Speaker 1: to still eat my jelly beans. Like, I'm not worried

3417
02:38:18,680 --> 02:38:20,840
Speaker 1: about that, you know. So I figured, like you know,

3418
02:38:20,920 --> 02:38:23,680
Speaker 1: when I've had, yeah, a couple of couple of edibles later,

3419
02:38:23,800 --> 02:38:26,520
Speaker 1: not I just popped the black black liquorice jelly beans.

3420
02:38:26,560 --> 02:38:28,600
Speaker 1: That's the way. That's the way, you know, that's.

3421
02:38:28,440 --> 02:38:37,680
Speaker 7: Taking it for those air budgy lost I'm.

3422
02:38:34,080 --> 02:38:35,800
Speaker 1: Just saying, like that way, I don't have to sort

3423
02:38:35,800 --> 02:38:38,280
Speaker 1: through the flavors. I don't like I think every year

3424
02:38:38,640 --> 02:38:41,440
Speaker 1: they should have an aisle of just jelly bean bags

3425
02:38:41,440 --> 02:38:43,840
Speaker 1: that are just one color, and then that way I

3426
02:38:43,879 --> 02:38:46,280
Speaker 1: don't like is I don't need that stuff mixed and

3427
02:38:46,360 --> 02:38:48,400
Speaker 1: match y'all. Like I don't. I don't need my red

3428
02:38:48,480 --> 02:38:50,600
Speaker 1: jelly beans with my white jelly beans, with my blue

3429
02:38:50,640 --> 02:38:53,520
Speaker 1: jelly beans, Like I don't need that. Like I separate

3430
02:38:53,560 --> 02:38:55,600
Speaker 1: the flavors so that I know exactly what I'm getting

3431
02:38:55,640 --> 02:38:57,360
Speaker 1: and I can anticipate it. I don't think that's a

3432
02:38:57,360 --> 02:38:57,840
Speaker 1: hot take.

3433
02:39:00,120 --> 02:39:03,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not feeling it. I'm really not. Oh God,

3434
02:39:03,160 --> 02:39:06,240
Speaker 3: you gotta taste the rainbow to go to Easter.

3435
02:39:06,040 --> 02:39:09,400
Speaker 1: Candy then for well, let's I mean, we've already established

3436
02:39:09,400 --> 02:39:11,800
Speaker 1: that Mighty Mark only eats the chocolate and the peanut butter.

3437
02:39:11,879 --> 02:39:12,240
Speaker 3: That's it.

3438
02:39:12,360 --> 02:39:13,199
Speaker 1: So he's very easy.

3439
02:39:13,200 --> 02:39:15,920
Speaker 7: Little chocolate eggs. I'll go for that, and then the

3440
02:39:15,959 --> 02:39:18,280
Speaker 7: Reese's peanut butter cups or the.

3441
02:39:18,240 --> 02:39:21,160
Speaker 1: Little chocolate eggs that are like full chocolate all the way.

3442
02:39:21,200 --> 02:39:22,960
Speaker 1: Like you don't want to like like a ganage or

3443
02:39:23,000 --> 02:39:24,400
Speaker 1: anything in the middle of that, just like.

3444
02:39:24,360 --> 02:39:26,360
Speaker 3: No cream, just chocolate.

3445
02:39:26,879 --> 02:39:30,320
Speaker 1: Oh man, Okay, so we got the palette of a

3446
02:39:30,480 --> 02:39:31,120
Speaker 1: child there.

3447
02:39:31,240 --> 02:39:34,000
Speaker 3: Okay, so wait, you like cake.

3448
02:39:34,320 --> 02:39:38,800
Speaker 1: I like that's too Schee that is well played by you.

3449
02:39:39,000 --> 02:39:42,240
Speaker 2: Any so you don't like like the all the crazy

3450
02:39:42,320 --> 02:39:44,879
Speaker 2: machinations of the recess. I will take any Reesis in

3451
02:39:44,920 --> 02:39:48,600
Speaker 2: any form, So any Reesis I'm all for. Even they

3452
02:39:48,640 --> 02:39:51,760
Speaker 2: have the Reesis pieces inside of a giant Reese's piece.

3453
02:39:51,800 --> 02:39:53,680
Speaker 3: Now that's a thing. I'm all for it.

3454
02:39:55,520 --> 02:39:59,800
Speaker 1: Anything Riese's pieces can do. By the way, peanut butter

3455
02:39:59,840 --> 02:40:01,199
Speaker 1: and and ms can do better.

3456
02:40:01,040 --> 02:40:03,520
Speaker 2: That's just okay, you know what, respect I love peanut

3457
02:40:03,560 --> 02:40:06,240
Speaker 2: butter eminems absolutely I want he like.

3458
02:40:06,200 --> 02:40:08,000
Speaker 1: To Would you like to chime in on your Easter

3459
02:40:08,080 --> 02:40:08,760
Speaker 1: candy of choice?

3460
02:40:08,959 --> 02:40:12,640
Speaker 6: I to be honest, I my family was never huge

3461
02:40:12,680 --> 02:40:15,520
Speaker 6: on Easter, so I feel like it's just candy, Like,

3462
02:40:15,600 --> 02:40:17,640
Speaker 6: just just give me candy and it works for Easter.

3463
02:40:17,840 --> 02:40:20,320
Speaker 6: I'm not one of those, you know, people who is

3464
02:40:20,760 --> 02:40:24,120
Speaker 6: extra nostalgic towards a certain kind because I it was

3465
02:40:24,200 --> 02:40:25,640
Speaker 6: never that big of a part of my child.

3466
02:40:25,680 --> 02:40:27,520
Speaker 3: All right, So what's your go to candy? Just in general?

3467
02:40:27,560 --> 02:40:35,920
Speaker 3: Then I'd say Skittles. Say Skittles, yeah, okay, classic, solid.

3468
02:40:36,760 --> 02:40:38,760
Speaker 1: Look. Easter wasn't a big deal for me growing up,

3469
02:40:38,800 --> 02:40:41,640
Speaker 1: mostly because my dad thought it would be really cute

3470
02:40:41,640 --> 02:40:43,520
Speaker 1: to make sure that the Easter eggs were all hidden

3471
02:40:43,640 --> 02:40:46,200
Speaker 1: so well that you could never find them, and then

3472
02:40:46,240 --> 02:40:48,720
Speaker 1: he wouldn't tell you. So like five months in I'd

3473
02:40:48,760 --> 02:40:50,879
Speaker 1: be cleaning something, I'd find an Easter egg. So, like

3474
02:40:50,959 --> 02:40:52,959
Speaker 1: you know, I got I got no patience for it. Now,

3475
02:40:53,040 --> 02:40:54,880
Speaker 1: just give me the candy. Don't make me work for it.

3476
02:40:54,920 --> 02:40:58,240
Speaker 1: That's just don't make me work for it. Fox Sports

3477
02:40:58,320 --> 02:40:59,960
Speaker 1: Radio is gonna be working for you all week in law,

3478
02:41:00,080 --> 02:41:01,760
Speaker 1: thanks for hanging out with the fellows. We'll be back

3479
02:41:01,760 --> 02:41:03,800
Speaker 1: to you next weekend. Thanks for hanging out with us.