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Crime Stories with Nancy Grace on Sirius XM 9 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: Triumph Channel one thirty two, being profusing believe it was 10 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: a shooting um until they just kept going and going, 11 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: and then Chase had what's the stage? And then everybody 12 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: started playing and we started seeing we did get out, 13 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: sounded like a did the firework, something that you think 14 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: normally happens in Vegas. And then it just started going 15 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: papla bla bla bla blah blah blah blah. Through investigation, 16 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: in response, we determined there was a shooter on the 17 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: thirty second floor of the Mandalaid Bay. I had no 18 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: sense that we were in any danger at all. It 19 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: felt so safe. No one will ever forget the shocking 20 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: massacre at the Vegas Mandalais. Now, in another stunning development, 21 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: Mandalaid Bay Hotel owner MGM is suing the victims of 22 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: the Vegas massacre. Over one thousand victims of the massacre 23 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: at Mandalais Bay are being sued. I don't understand the 24 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: victims are being sued. Let me understand that with me 25 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: is Randy Sutton, retired Vegas police lieutenant, host of Blue 26 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: Lives Radio and founder of the Wounded Blue. Brian Claypool, 27 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: our friend, l a lawyer, a Vegas shooting survivor, co 28 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: founder of Route one Strong and representing Vegas shooting victims. 29 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: Lisa Fine, Vegas shooting victims and co founder of Route Strong. 30 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: Dr Carol Lieberman, author and therapist of Lions and Tigers 31 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: and Terrorists. Oh My, and Ellen to Lauren Crime online 32 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: dot Com investigative reporter, excuse me, Allen? Do? What do 33 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: I have? This sentence reversed that the Mandalais owner is 34 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: suing the victims. Shouldn't it be the victims suing Mandalais? 35 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: Have I missed something? Ellen? You're right, it's unbelievable. It 36 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,839 Speaker 1: doesn't seem like it should. It makes sense, but that's 37 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: exactly what's happening, um and what it What it seems 38 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: to be is that MGM Resorts International is doing this 39 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: as kind of a preemptive strike too. They're not countersuing 40 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: there the thousands of victims that are affected by this lawsuit, 41 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: most of them haven't even taken any legal actions. So 42 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: what MGM Resorts International is doing is sending a message 43 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 1: that we're not going to cooperate with anything any liabilities 44 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: that you think that you have, sending a message. They're 45 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: sending me a message. It'll be a cold day in 46 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: h E double l before I stay at the Mandalay 47 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: and I'm planning a trip to take John David Lucy 48 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: back out there to see who is it Alan, Who's 49 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: the magician that does all the stunts? Yes, yes, yes, 50 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: him him, him, you know John David. The magic tricks 51 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: go on and on. He attacks whoever comes to the 52 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: house with magic tricks. He loves David Copperfield. He saw 53 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: David Copperfield. Blah blah blah. Well, I'm not stated the MGM. 54 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: I'm just putting it out there. Randy Sutton, Brian Claypool, 55 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: Lisa Fine Ladies First, Lisa Fine Vega sheeting victim. When 56 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: did you find out the Amanda light, I guess it 57 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: is suing you. Yeah, I found out a couple of 58 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 1: days ago, and I was completely disgusted. I I started 59 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: receiving a lot of messages calls from our applicants for 60 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: our funds we offer financial assistance to gun violence survivors, 61 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: and they were just horrified and it re it was 62 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: like being re victimized again. And I just I take 63 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: the calls a lot for the applicants that come in 64 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: and so you know, I was in the kill zone 65 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: along with Brian Claypool, my co founder, and I know 66 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: firsthand what it what happened, and we we are here 67 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: for those gun vidence survivors and they are just up 68 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: in arms and they're refusing ever to participate in anything 69 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: that MGM has anything to do with. I can't believe it. 70 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: Brian A. Pool, you know, I'm a crime victim, and 71 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: even to this day, the murder of my fiance so 72 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: many years ago, it kind of runs my life in 73 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: a way. It affects decisions I make regarding the children, 74 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: my husband, everything I do, where I live, how I live, everything, 75 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: because it could happen again. That's the way, I'm in 76 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: bunker mentality all the time you and Lisa were there. Brian, 77 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: You've told me your story and how this is mr 78 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: a head up so badly? How did you find out 79 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: the mandalay Is suing you? Was very odd. I was 80 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: actually conducting a press conference the other day for the 81 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: SAMI and a tinder old boy was murder by his 82 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: mom and a boyfriend because you sailed him. And later 83 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: after the press conference, one of the local TV stations 84 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: came up to me said, Hey, while you're here, can 85 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: you come on the last Vegas lawsuits? And I was 86 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: just complete shock. I was like, I was like, what 87 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: are you talking about? And they're like, they're suing you 88 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: and how that it goes? And I just about passed 89 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: out and I was scrambling trying to figure out what's 90 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: the ba Hey, why are they doing this and what 91 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: is the basis for. I can't believe it. I've I've 92 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: suffered through lawsuits before, and it's an agonizing ordeal, especially 93 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: when you think that you have done nothing wrong at all, 94 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: much less. For instance, you and Lisa living through a 95 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: mass sheeting, escaping with your lives, and now Mandalais Bay 96 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: sues you. With me. Randy Sutton, retired Vegas police lieutenant, 97 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: host of Blue Lives, radio founder of the Wounded Blue Randy, 98 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: I'm done, Randy Sutton. Well, you're not the only one 99 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: that's done. I can tell you that the entire Las 100 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: Vegas community when they read that headline um or justice, 101 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: stunned and just as disgusted. And I can tell you 102 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: that the sentiment um locally here is um is really 103 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: anti MGM. Now keep in mind that the MGM is 104 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: one of the largest casino property owners in the in 105 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: the state. They wield an enormous amount of power. But 106 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: what we're seeing here is the callousness of American business 107 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: and UM, this is this is unconscionable, literally re victimizing. Uh, 108 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: these people that lived through living hell. It's it's just 109 00:07:55,840 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: coming to you, Brian, go ahead, not know have sued deceit. 110 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: One of my the mother I represent a mother in 111 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: Alaska's called me in tears. Her sons been sued. He's dead. 112 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: They're also now going after attorney fees for the wife 113 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: of one of the Las Vegas police officers who was 114 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: murdered in their stuning. There's a hearing on August fifteen, 115 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: they're seeking eighty thousand dollars of attorney s fees now 116 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: against the wife of the police officer. And it was 117 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: killed in Las Vegas. The lawyers for for Yeah, So 118 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: I mean this is just this is uh, everybody said it. 119 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: It's pre victimized, it's pre traumatizing everybody. It's unnecessary. And 120 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: and and one quick point I want to make on 121 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 1: a legal issue is that there I thought about this. 122 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: Their argument about using this Safety Act is not going 123 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: to win. For one big reason I finally figured this 124 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: out and previewed on your show, is because the security 125 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: the Mandelaide a Higher MBM hired it was at the venue. 126 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: They hired this company's CSC at the venue. For the 127 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: cause of the shooting has nothing to do with security 128 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: at the venue. There wasn't sure that jumped over the 129 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: fence and got into the venue. It has to be 130 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: with internal security that's unrelated to an outside vendor at 131 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: the Manilaid Bay. What failed is the internal security at 132 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 1: Mantelaid Bay. And then and they didn't hire CSC to 133 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: do that, and and internal security is not certified by 134 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: Homeland Security at the at the Mandelaide Bay. We're going 135 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: to get shot down I'm just stunned, dude, to Carol Laborman, 136 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 1: forensic psychiatrist, how does this compound the agony of the 137 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: shooting victims? It is unconscionable. It not only triggers PTSD 138 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: that they already had from being victims at the shooting, 139 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: but anyone who is being sued has their own set 140 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: of psychological uh stress, just from the process of being sued, 141 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: and so they're they're compounding it in lots of ways. 142 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: And also this is a message that they're trying to 143 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: send to any other victims out there who are thinking, 144 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: who haven't gotten around to getting a lawyer yet, but 145 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: who are thinking of suing them. You better not do 146 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 1: it or you're going to be sued. It is despicable, 147 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 1: you know when you think, um, Stephen Paddock was one twisted, 148 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: evil guy, But here, um, it's hordes of lawyers and 149 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: the and the you know, the upper brass of of 150 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: the hotel and MGM and I mean, you know, in 151 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: other words, it's not just one person um running amuck. 152 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: It's the people who have fought this out and who 153 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: have gone through a detailed legal process and all that 154 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: to to hurt people and to hurt the victims, and 155 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: I think that we should call for a boycott of 156 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: not only Mandalay Bay, but of anything MGM to Brian Claypool, 157 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: our friend and colleague, high profile l A lawyer, Brian, 158 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 1: how has this lawsuit? I thank you do after what 159 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: you lived through at the shooting. Yeah, I've had to 160 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: relive the entire shooting was done. Um. I was in 161 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: therapy on Wednesday. I'm still in therapy once a week. 162 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: My my Carol's right on top. Yeah. We look up 163 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 1: until getting this announcement the other day and Lisa echo 164 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 1: this I have. I have still continued to struggle. Um, 165 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,479 Speaker 1: you know, you know, trying to get through each day. 166 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: Mundane tasks are hard for me, like getting a handle 167 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: on my like writing bills for example, sometimes getting out 168 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: of the house. My energy level is seared. Uh. And 169 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: and I still had the problem I was dealing with 170 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: even before this announcement. Um, I still have these catastrophic 171 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: thoughts all the time. I feel like I'm living that movie, 172 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: you know, that movie Final That's the Nation. Every time 173 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: I get a stomach ache, I feel like I'm going 174 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 1: to end up with cancer. I get a headache, I'm 175 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: getting an m R. I and because I feel like 176 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: I might have a brain tumor, so my life is 177 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: already in chaos. I become I'm still destined to die 178 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: sometime under near future. And then I've got to get 179 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: this news. But now not only me, it's a double 180 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: hit for me because I'm a victim dealing with a lawsuit. 181 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: And then, like Lisa said, I have countless clients mancy 182 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: calling me, emailing me from across the country. Like Carol said, traumatized. 183 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: They don't know what to do. They're being sued now, 184 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 1: there's no clue what to do. What do I do next? 185 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: Am I going to go to jail? Am I gonna 186 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: pay money? It's just horrifying. It's a bullying tactic and 187 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: intimidation that we didn't need. We didn't sign up for this. 188 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: But Brian Claypool, you're the lawyer, how does this tactically 189 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: help MGM? I mean, how does it stem fu future lawsuits? 190 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: I don't get it because right now they're already overs 191 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: suits against the MGM. How does this help them? Well, 192 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: what they're trying to do is it's a hail Mary. 193 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: They did they know that they're facing the potential mountain 194 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: of liability it could be a colossal, you know, financial 195 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: hit for them. So what they do is they come 196 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: out it's kind of like a what's it called, like 197 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: a when you get you know, blindsided in a fight, 198 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: you get cold cocked, like from behind. So that's what 199 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: they wanted, true. They do. They want to try to 200 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: take down the victims before the victims can take them down. 201 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: And they're basing it on this this nebulous law in 202 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: two thousand too that they they want to get the 203 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: take the first punch. But what they've got to now factors, 204 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: what's what what's the collateral damage that that we're that 205 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: Randy's already talking about. It's going to be immense and 206 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 1: it's even gonna be worse if they lose on this argument. 207 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: They now have revictimized everybody and they're gonna lose. So well, yeah, 208 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: MGM is signing a federal act as Brian and just 209 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: pointing out from two thousand two that says companies are 210 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: protected from liability, you know, from fault if they use 211 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: quote anti terrorism services to help prevent respond to mass violence. 212 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: They also climbed the security they hire, which was Contemporary 213 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: Services Corps, was protected from liability and certified by Homeland 214 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: Security to handle acts of mass injury and destruction. They 215 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: say MGM that that should protect MGM from liability as well. 216 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: Now that act that Brian claypol is talking about, it 217 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: defines terrorism as an act that causes mass destruction, injury, 218 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: or other loss. Huh. This shooting has not been ruled 219 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: as a terror attack, and authorities are saying the shooter, Paddock, 220 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: appeared to have no terrorist connections or political motive at all. 221 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: He was just a freak. The FBI and Vegas police 222 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: have not determined his motive. They're still investigating. And that's 223 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: why that's so important that we get his motive because 224 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: of his terrorists related then this statute will kick in 225 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: and relieve MGM of liability under that two thousand two Act. 226 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: But let's talk in real terms. Lisa, fine, how is 227 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: this MGM lawsuit affected? You already lived through the potential 228 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: loss of your life. Yea, it is now this, you know, 229 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: the witnessing a mass and murder alters the chemistry of 230 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: your brain. You don't sleep, you have nightmares, anxiety times 231 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: a hundred, and it's like will never be the same. 232 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: The fact that they allowed a monster into Mandalaide Bay 233 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: with twenty six bags of weapons. Then he shoots down 234 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: monster from heck he is he is out of control. 235 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: Then they sue the people that they that they allowed 236 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: this monster and to kill it makes no sense. I 237 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: am disgusted and sick, and I don't know how to 238 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: I don't even know how to process all this. We're 239 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: we are completely devastated. 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If 257 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 1: your personal info appears for sale on the dart web, 258 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: you'll be the first to know. Visit truth finder dot 259 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: com slash Nancy, enter your own name, get started. The 260 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: Mandalaid shooting rocked the nation. How could this happen? Thousands 261 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: gathered to hear Jason Aldean concert outside the mandalaisd Bay. 262 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: It's a luxury resort in Vegas. It's a real destination, 263 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: a beautiful facility. When suddenly a hell of bullets. Nobody 264 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: even knows which way to run? Thousands of bullets. Why 265 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: doesn't anybody identify the source? Because it's high above where 266 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 1: the shooter is perched in the Mandalay picking off his victims. 267 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: Below at the Aldine concert with me, Lisa Fine, who 268 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: survived the shooting, Brian Claypool, who survived the shooting together 269 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 1: founding Root ninety one Strong, and Randy Sutton, retired Vegas 270 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: police lieutenant, host of Blue Lives Radio and the founder 271 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: of the Wounded Blue Foundation. Lisa, you were describing how 272 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: this lawsuit filed by MGM as Mandalais Bay owners against 273 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: the victims as messed your life up all over again. 274 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,959 Speaker 1: What do you recall of the night of shooting, Lisa, 275 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: The night of the shooting, before the shooting took place, 276 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 1: it was the most incredible atmosphere. Energy was off the charts, 277 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,719 Speaker 1: and people were beautiful. I've never felt more connected at 278 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: a concert in my entire life. In one moment, I 279 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: heard of pop pop pop, and in my head, I thought, 280 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: that's a gunfire. And I begged my friends to get down, 281 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: get down, and they kept saying to me, it's not 282 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: real bullets, and it's not real bullets, because your brain 283 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: doesn't want to believe that you're about to get killed, 284 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: and we just I said, stay down, stay down. What 285 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: I witnessed in front of me is the most disgusting 286 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 1: thing I've ever seen in my life. Witnessing mass murder 287 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: right before my eyes, listening, watching, and then later crawling 288 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 1: through the blood of these beautiful people that I had 289 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: just been celebrating life with is the most disgusting act 290 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: of violence and evil that I've ever seen. And we 291 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: had to do something. That's why Brian claypol and I 292 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: came together and found a root ninety one strong. Because 293 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: to us it we will have to do this the 294 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: rest of our life. Because we lived and they didn't. 295 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: We have to live with that for the rest of 296 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: our lives. Brian Claypole, I just can't imagine what everyone 297 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: is going through. I mean, I had it bad enough 298 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: with one murder to deal with, and being on the 299 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: scene of a mass murder. Yeah, you can relate to 300 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: this with your what what happened to you with your 301 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: your husband, And then another thing you can relate to 302 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: because you have kids. You know, I have an eleven 303 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 1: or a little girl. Right, I'm a single parent and 304 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,719 Speaker 1: I love beings dad, and I want to have another child. Right. 305 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 1: Imagine if you were at that concert, right, I was there. 306 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: My birthday was the following Tuesday, so I decided last 307 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: minute to go out to to Vegas. I like country 308 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,959 Speaker 1: country music, and I was staying by the way on 309 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: the four of the Mandalay Bay. So when I eventually 310 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: got back to my room, I could look up and 311 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: see paddocks blown out windows right above me. That's how 312 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 1: for real it was. But imagine this being a parent, 313 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 1: and then all you're going from relaxing to all of 314 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 1: a sudden, hearing sounds that you think initially your fireworks. 315 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: And then what I do is I and I started 316 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: looking at Jason Alban's face. I was a little bit 317 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: to the left of the stage, and I was looking 318 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: at his face because I was a little bit worried 319 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: because I looked up in the sky and I didn't 320 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 1: see any any residue from fireworks. And he kind of 321 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: stuttered when he was singing. When when that first this 322 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: first sounds pop, but then then there was a second 323 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 1: round of pops. And when I saw him put his 324 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: guitar underneath his his um, the cup of his shoulder 325 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: and ran off the stage. Man, I went, I it 326 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: was just complete panic because I knew at that time 327 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: something horrible was going on. But I will tell you this. 328 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: As I was, you know, the first round of bullets, 329 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: you know, I was trying to duck and trying to 330 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 1: lay down. Um, I fully expected to die, There's no 331 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: question about because of the pop up, up up up. 332 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: I mean, he just felt like the bullets right on 333 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: top of you. You could hear the bullets. You can 334 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: hear him pining you, I I expect you to die. 335 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 1: That when there's a little gap in the shoot. I 336 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 1: went from I'm going to die too, Yeah, I am, 337 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: really I've got to live to see my daughter. But 338 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: then I said, I live. I am Okay, White a minute, 339 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: White a minute. You're just totally You're You're killing me 340 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: right now because the thought of you, Brian, I mean 341 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: you and I go way back of you laying there 342 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: on the ground with bullets ringing out and all you 343 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 1: can think about is trying to get back to your daughter. 344 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, but but Nancy, you know what that triggers. 345 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: It triggers post shooting guilt in other words, in other words, 346 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: because I had to talk with some people at the 347 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: survivor meeting about this, because there was a there was 348 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: a guy I met there who invited me, a g 349 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: named Taylor Winston. Taylor was a hero if you if 350 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: you looked him up, he actually was a former IRAQI 351 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: that he was at the shooting. He actually grabbed a 352 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: truck that had keys in it and started transporting some 353 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: bodies in the hospital. So when I hear his story, 354 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: I I didn't kind of spiral because I feel like 355 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: I didn't do enough. But this gets to me having 356 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: a daughter. None of the words I saw people down. 357 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: Excuse me, I didn't. I didn't feel like I did 358 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: enough because I was trying to get back to my 359 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: little girl, whereas other people grew more. So I'm feeling psychologically. 360 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: I'm seeing a therapist. I'm trying to work on that 361 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: aspect of it too. So that's that's the demons that 362 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: I'm dealing with. Shot you gotta stop, you got to 363 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you're seeing somebody with survivor's guilt because 364 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: you were trying to protect the thing that means the 365 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: most to you, your child. And I also don't like 366 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: people attacking all day for leaving the stage, because when 367 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: you are confronted with death, you act instinctively. He wasn't 368 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: standing there thinking, oh, what's gonna look good with my 369 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: pr eight? You know, that's not what it was about. 370 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: It's about saving your life. So I really resent people 371 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: attacking the survivors because something kicks in and I just 372 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 1: didn't still imagining you on the ground with the bullets 373 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 1: ringing out, How did you get out of there? And 374 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: what what was it like? What was going through your mind? 375 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: What was everybody else doing? Well? I mean, I mean 376 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: it was like it was pick your poison. I mean death. 377 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: Death was death was definitely at your doorstep. And and 378 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: and what I remember is thinking, so when the first 379 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: time the shots were was going on, like I said, 380 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 1: I thought I was going to die, and I went 381 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: from I'm going to die too. There was a little 382 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: break in the shooting. Then I'm like, oh my gosh, 383 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: I'm steeling my body and I'm like and I was 384 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: covering the side of my head while the shots were 385 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: going on, and either or not, it was so surrealized, 386 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: pulling on people's pants, like like some people were still standing. 387 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if they were just in shock top 388 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: of trying to pull people to come down. And then 389 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: and then I'm like, oh my god, I'm still alive. 390 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: And then then I started running and I saw people 391 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 1: down and I was like running actually in the in 392 00:24:55,960 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: an open area, which was not good. And then what 393 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: happened is there was a really a herolic young Hispanic 394 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: man um and he said get out of you're you're 395 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: in the line of fire. Get out, come over here. 396 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,479 Speaker 1: And then there was this little area like under this 397 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: little small bleacher the left of the stage, and he 398 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: goes coming here. This is before the second round his 399 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 1: shots right and I go in there, and I'll never 400 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 1: forget seeing like five like a young lady, like young ladies. 401 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 1: It must have been probably got between nineteen and twenty two. 402 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 1: And they were just on their knees praying erically, like 403 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: praying like all in a corner, like in this little area. 404 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: So I tried to calm them down and said, you know, 405 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 1: said he's gonna be okay, just a lot. You know, 406 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: I did say, I just just be calm. We're gonna 407 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 1: get through this, I said, But we've got to get 408 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: out of here when this next shooting stops. Because then 409 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: I started thinking about the Pulse night club shooting. You 410 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: see what I mean. It was like it was like okay, okay, 411 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: I thought. I thought, okay, okay, wow, we're protected now. 412 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: Let see what people don't understand. And we know where 413 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: the shooting was coming from. So everybody Monday morning quarterbacks. 414 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: So it was just up in a hotel. What are 415 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: you worried about? We were thinking it was people were 416 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,479 Speaker 1: right across the fence. I was right next to the fence, 417 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: contiguous for Bocibit his boulevards. So while for a moment 418 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: I thought we were safe inside that room, I was 419 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 1: starting to panic and I prayed. I was like, oh 420 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 1: my god, I think shutter comes in here. We're done right, 421 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: We're toast because we got nowhere to go, so that 422 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: then the next round of shooting is going on. We're 423 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: just we're And I think you can relate to this 424 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: being a mom. You know, I'm a middle aged man, 425 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 1: so I felt guilty that these young girls were gonna die. 426 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: So I instinctively stood in front of them. I'm really 427 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 1: proud of this because I didn't feel like I did enough, 428 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: but I felt like I was protecting them. I stood 429 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 1: in front of them and didn't even get behind his 430 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 1: barty and I pulled in front of them. I stood 431 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: in front of them because I was kind of feeling like, look, 432 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: if this dude comes into here, then he could shoot 433 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: me first because these girls are younger, right, and they 434 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: haven't left enough of life. So I stood like right 435 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: in front here the entrance of the door. And then 436 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 1: there was another break in the shooting, and I'll never 437 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: forget the most surreal moment. I peeked out the door 438 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: and I literally am facing the Manila Bay, looking right 439 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: at the Manila Bay, and then there was a really 440 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 1: great police officer across the fence you saw me, and 441 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: he screams out, I'll never forget these words. Run north, now, 442 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: run north, now, north, and go further away from the 443 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: front of the venue. And then of course I started 444 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: like running north, and then I'm like, what about the girls, right, 445 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:37,959 Speaker 1: So I did a quick three sixty and we hit 446 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 1: back in the room like let's go, come on, let's go, 447 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 1: we gotta get out of here, and then started going 448 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: towards the back. But Nancy, what people don't get is 449 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: the entire time you're trying to exit, you're waiting to 450 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: get hit. No other words, we were then of them 451 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: were waiting to get hit from behind, like like we're 452 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,199 Speaker 1: waiting like like we had to wait for people to 453 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: try to get out. But the whole time you're you're 454 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 1: expecting you get hit in the back because the shots 455 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: are still going on. So and then eventually kind of 456 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 1: had to calmb people down to get out of this 457 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: one little small four foot exit, and I just said 458 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: to people, if you're gonna fight, nobody's gonna make it 459 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: out of your live. I tried to really just say, 460 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: we've got to all get in a single line and 461 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: try to get our way through, and you know, praise 462 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: God made it out. Dr Carroll Aberman. When you're listening 463 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: to Brian Claypool, it's just overwhelming. Dr Carroll, Yes, it 464 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 1: really is. And Brian certainly brought it to life. I 465 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: mean you could still. I think we all got chills 466 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: just hearing and it was still so raw in his mind. 467 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: Let me tell you the second thought I had after 468 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: I survived for that first round of bullets. I said 469 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: to myself, I am effing upset about this, and if 470 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: I live, I'm going to get to the bottom of 471 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: how this can happen and then do my part. It 472 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: kind of galvanized my godly of this in the world. 473 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: Why am I still here? I'm still here now because 474 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: I'm representing a lot of victims in this case. We 475 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,479 Speaker 1: want to try to prevent this from happening again. So 476 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: I'm focusing more on what did the Mandalay Bay and 477 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: m SAM do wrong in terms of horrible training, having 478 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: little or no security at all, allowing you to use 479 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: the freight elevader, not having an alarm in the window 480 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: for somebody's drilling holes in the window, not arming the 481 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: security guards, things like that, the barricaded door not doing 482 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: anything about that. I'm focused. I'm galvanizing my focus on 483 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: how could this happen in a civilized society with people 484 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,719 Speaker 1: that really care about safeguarding people. To me, the issue 485 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: is about greed eclipses public safety, and I want to 486 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: break up that culture of money, money, money at the 487 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: expense of keeping people saying. So that's my focus. I 488 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: want to hear about when you finally when you were running, 489 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: You're crawling along army crawl, the shots are ringing out. 490 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: You try to protect those two young girls. The guy says, 491 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: run north. Now you start running. Everybody's running. I can't 492 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: even imagine what that was like, Brian, Yeah, it's uh, 493 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: what what? What? What? What? People? We talked about this 494 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: at the survivor's group where a lot of are are are. 495 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: The trauma that weren't healing with is what's called disassociation. 496 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: If I speak from me, I'm still dealing with this, Carol, 497 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: you know it's probably what I'm talking about. This association, 498 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: Nancy means that I'm more disconnected now from the average 499 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: fault on the street because I don't feel like they 500 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: can really relate to what I went through. Right, weren't 501 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: for example, like what we were talking about earlier, which 502 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: is like I feel comfortable talking to you. You have kids. 503 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: You kind of get what people don't get. For example, 504 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: is I don't know where I don't know where the suitor. 505 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: There's a good points I was just gonna say, sitars, 506 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: I thought there were several suitors. We all fought people. 507 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: I've talked to her in there. This was a masked 508 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: terror attack. We thought terrorsts were teaking over the city 509 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: of Vegas. Okay, this this is upsets me. It angers 510 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,239 Speaker 1: me because I'm so sick of people minimizing what I 511 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: went through. Oh, you weren't standing over there where most 512 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: of the people were killed, and that there yet a 513 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: person was killed thirty in front of me. I saw 514 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: when I read through the investigator report. Oh well it 515 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: was just a guy shooting up and now, hotel, are 516 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: you freaking fountains around? I mean every movie you made, 517 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: you thought you were going to get hit that we 518 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: thought people were coming over the fact, imagine your your 519 00:31:54,400 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: trror than Nancy is magnified ten. You don't know where 520 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: this is coming from. In every move you make your body. 521 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: That's to help you have a vivid understanding of what 522 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: I want to every move I need, I thought could 523 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: make it be the difference between life and death. And 524 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: and even when I got out of the venue have 525 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: been a story. I end up at the Tropic Canna 526 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: and I'm standing there and I'm breathing, and I'm like, 527 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: oh my, I think I'm still alive. And all of 528 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: a sudden there's an announcement, there's a scream, there's a scream, 529 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: another shooter, and then we're told there's an active shooter 530 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: shooting ending Tropicana. And then had to rush through the 531 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: trafic can and saw people's clothing, sweatshirt, shoes strew everywhere 532 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: throughout the casino. Okay, so this went on for hours 533 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: and hours. To Randy Sutton, retired Vegas Police lieutenant, host 534 00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: of Blue Lives radio founder of the Wounded Blue Foundation, Andy, 535 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: here's your chance. What do you have to say to 536 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: MGM A. Mandalay Bay. Well, what I have to say 537 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: you wouldn't want to put on the air, quite honestly, 538 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: And oh I think I would. That's where you got well. UM, I, 539 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: as as a law enforcement professional, UM was very proud 540 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: of of the law enforcement and first responders. UM, and 541 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: they themselves are dealing with some incredible trauma as well. 542 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: Post traumatic stress is a true killer. And the fact 543 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: that this mega corporation is so callous cares so little 544 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:49,239 Speaker 1: about the people that were victimized. Here is is an 545 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: indictment of of the of the corporation, of the of 546 00:33:54,760 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: the lack of humanity and UM and I quite honestly 547 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: hope that the calls for boycotting MGM properties is heated. UM. 548 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: They have destroyed their there from their corporate greed, which 549 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: is all that is. You know, it's all based on money. 550 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: This is all based on money. This has nothing to 551 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: do with the humanity of what took place. This is 552 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: all based on cash and that makes this this even worse. 553 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: And UH and I personally and professionally feel that that 554 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:36,320 Speaker 1: there needs to be UM. There needs to be justice 555 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,280 Speaker 1: done here and the only justice that they are concerned 556 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: about is their pocketbook. True awards were never spoken. Randy Sutton. 557 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: Back to you, Brian Claypool. You survived. How has it 558 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: affected your family? Yes, So here's what I'm going through. 559 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: And I read a post the other day that really 560 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 1: helped me deal with this trauma. It's it's the post 561 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: on Facebook. Was there it wasn't the survivors because it 562 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: said true courage, it's complete vulnerability. Think about that for 563 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: a second. True courage is complete vulnerability. You've gone through 564 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: this in your life with the tragic you had, Okay, 565 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: That's how I've chosen to deal with this from front, 566 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: and that's why I've spoken a lot about not only 567 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: the shooting, but what I'm not afraid to say what 568 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: I'm going through. Okay, And here's what I'm going through 569 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: because I need to be vulnerable for me to get 570 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: my courage back, because I'm a little bit beaten down 571 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: from this. Here's what I'm experiencing. Catastrophic thoughts for example. 572 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 1: And I know you're gonna get sad hearing this. And 573 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 1: I'm on the freeway and I get this thought as 574 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: I'm driving, and I'm driving in the car pooling right 575 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: carpool want is close to the media, and then the 576 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: up traffic coming on the other side of the freeway 577 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: so we could go. I'm just driving with my daughter 578 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,439 Speaker 1: in the back seat, and then the thought comes over 579 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 1: me that a car is gonna hit me from the side, 580 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 1: fish tailing me and push my car into the other 581 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,720 Speaker 1: lane of traffic in a truck is going to smash 582 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,760 Speaker 1: our car, and I'm gonna watch my daughter dying needed killed. 583 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 1: So these are so things are happening in my world. 584 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: I had a nightmare about an earthquake. An earthquake was happening, 585 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: and my little girl and I are rushing too the 586 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: out of the house as the ceiling is following of us. 587 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: That's one thing that I'm going through, catastrophic thoughts. It was. 588 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: Another part of it is I'm very much more anti 589 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 1: social now. Um, I don't really like being around people much. 590 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: I don't really trust people anymore. I don't really feel 591 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: seech anywhere I go. I kind of always constantly looking 592 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 1: around my shoulders wherever I'm at. I don't trust anybody. 593 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 1: And and then I think the biggest, one of the 594 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 1: biggest things for me is I feel like part of 595 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: my soul was killed. I told people is I might 596 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: not have been physically hit by a bullet, but part 597 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: of my fluttle guide in that shooting. So I'm having 598 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: struggles with the deally routines of life. In other words, 599 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: I you know me, I'm I focused on my law firm, 600 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: like I care my daughter first. I didn't keep my 601 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: business going but I gotta tell you, every day tasks 602 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 1: of getting my bills paid, finally getting my car to 603 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: the car washed the other day, having tons of stuff 604 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: in my car that I hadn't taken out, little things 605 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: in life that you think you knocked out one to 606 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 1: three had become really really big task for me because 607 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 1: I just don't feel like I have this same Do 608 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: you know what's interesting, Brian, is that I don't know 609 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: if this is a good knees or bad knees to 610 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 1: this day, and Keith was murdered a long time ago. 611 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: I to this day, I joke about it a lot, 612 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: and I joke about it with the other parents at 613 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: school and the teachers, and it's kind of a joke 614 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 1: to them. But I will go to the school at 615 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: all times of the day and drive by and I 616 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,720 Speaker 1: make a joke. I'll call my husband on the phone 617 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: or um, I might have Alan on the phone, and 618 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 1: I'll go, You'll go, where are you? I'm driving through 619 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 1: the twins school, just making sure they're not in lockdown. 620 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: You know that everything is okay, ha ha. I'm not kidding. 621 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 1: And I still have the nightmares. I still everything. It 622 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: affects you for the rest of your life. Now I've 623 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: gone on. I function. I mean, there have been periods 624 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 1: of times that I really couldn't and all I had 625 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 1: was prosecuting or my my job, having your daughter. It 626 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,800 Speaker 1: it it's healing because you you have to get normalized. 627 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: You have to for her, you know, you know, Brian, Yeah, yeah, 628 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 1: thank you for that. I just wanted to say, Brian, 629 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: you know that those are classic symptoms of PTSD. Right, Yeah, No, 630 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 1: you're you're right. I'm I'm drinking. Um was a therapist. 631 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,399 Speaker 1: I'm seeing her on a weekly basis to night. Yeah, 632 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: that's what that's what she's diagnosed. Here's another thing I learned, Brian. 633 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: I learned that bet effects your whole world. Like you know, 634 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 1: after Keith was murdered, I went on, I met David. 635 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,919 Speaker 1: I couldn't let myself marry, or be happy or or 636 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,800 Speaker 1: love anybody. And that's why I was so crazy mean 637 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 1: as a prosecutor all those years. I mean I looked 638 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 1: at everybody and they were like, if I let this 639 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 1: guy go on a theft, he could get out shoot somebody, 640 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 1: then it's on me. Oh hell no, he's got to 641 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 1: go to jail. And everybody if they came to into 642 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,919 Speaker 1: my courtroom was just like woe is you? Because that's 643 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 1: where I was coming from, and I couldn't move forward. 644 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,879 Speaker 1: And you know what what it ended in is me 645 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: and Lucy almost dying in childbirth because all those years 646 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: I couldn't let go and be happy and have love. 647 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 1: I couldn't have love because in my mind it was wrong. 648 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,360 Speaker 1: But you know, I still love Keith and I couldn't 649 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: let go. And as a result, you know, because of 650 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 1: my delay giving birth so late in life, you know what, 651 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:32,720 Speaker 1: Lucy almost died there. So it affects every it seeps 652 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: into every part of your Thank you for sharing that. 653 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 1: By the way, I really thank you for sharing that 654 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 1: because you just validated something that I'm I'm I haven't 655 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,720 Speaker 1: only publicly mentioned this, but I'm going through something similar 656 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,320 Speaker 1: to what you're going through. Um. You know, I'm still single. 657 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 1: I want to meet a woman to get married. I'd 658 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: love to have another kid, even though it's later in life. 659 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 1: But for me, I even before the shooting, I hadn't used. 660 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 1: My mom died when I was a little, really really 661 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 1: little kid, bred breast can My dad was alcoholic, never around. 662 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 1: I was basically orphaned as a kid and raising myself 663 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 1: from my little sister, and so I've never had a 664 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:14,360 Speaker 1: feeling of trusting a family foundation. I've always you know, 665 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 1: I ruined my relationship with my daughter's mom. I should 666 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 1: have gotten married. I couldn't trust. I already had trust 667 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: issees with marriage right, trusting this could be a safe 668 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 1: place for me. Then the shooting happens. Now it's like 669 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 1: I try not trying to go on a date. I 670 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 1: was just so disconnected from the whole thing. I'm like, 671 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: now I'm feeling like, am I ever gonna Maybe I 672 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 1: will never have a family now because I just can't. 673 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,919 Speaker 1: That's what I thought. That's what I thought. But I'm 674 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: begging you. I'm begging you. Don't do what I did. 675 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 1: That's my message to crime victims all the time. Don't 676 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 1: stop your life like I did. Don't that's if I 677 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 1: had just been able to just move forward. YEA. Well, 678 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 1: believe it or not that they asked that part actually 679 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 1: helps me being involved in this litigation um and helping 680 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,359 Speaker 1: these victims. Uh. You know, I've got a woman who 681 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,839 Speaker 1: lost a luck on her son was killed. He lives 682 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 1: in Alaska's map got about fifteen people that have been 683 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 1: physically injured in the shooting. And I've got about twenty 684 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 1: people that are suffering from PTSD, and I have to 685 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 1: tell you, Nancy, every single client that I represent in 686 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: the Las Vegas shooting, it's an honor and a privilege 687 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 1: to be representing them because I feel like I'm going 688 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,920 Speaker 1: to get answers through representing them in this case and 689 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 1: being at the forefront of this case. And then that 690 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 1: is going to be therapy for me to into another word, 691 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 1: to carry out what my godly purposes surviving, So that 692 00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:02,240 Speaker 1: is actually feelings. Fine Vegas shooting victim, You're already lived 693 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 1: through the potential loss of your life. Okay, Now this 694 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 1: our applicants that apply for our financial assistance through Root 695 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,720 Speaker 1: ninety one strong dot org are in in a dire 696 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,439 Speaker 1: place there at the rock bottom they've ever been after 697 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: witnessing this mass murder. And we have applicants that have 698 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 1: lost their jobs, they're about to lose their homes. Some 699 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 1: have lost their homes. They send us their eviction notices 700 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:30,360 Speaker 1: and we give them immediate financial assistance to save them 701 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 1: and their families from being on the streets. Lisa, wait 702 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 1: a minute, you know people may thank oh, they're malingering 703 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:41,280 Speaker 1: that's not true. After my fiancee was murdered, I couldn't 704 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,800 Speaker 1: think straight at all. I could not, and I dropped 705 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 1: out of school. I lost my job or quit my job, 706 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just didn't show up. Nothing formal 707 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:57,279 Speaker 1: happen where I was. I worked at the library at 708 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:02,279 Speaker 1: my universe, Mercy University. I just everything stopped. I mean, 709 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,720 Speaker 1: the last thing on my mind was trying to study 710 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 1: or go work at the line. I couldn't even think. 711 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,800 Speaker 1: I couldn't even eat. And so I feel your soul. 712 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 1: I feel your soul are applicants. They are at the 713 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,720 Speaker 1: rock bottom they've ever been after witnessing this mass murder. 714 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 1: They're on suicide watch. And then this if if any 715 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,359 Speaker 1: of those applicants of ours died, you know, take their 716 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 1: life because of this unbelievable Brian Claypool, I want to 717 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:33,400 Speaker 1: hear your message to other victims of the Vegas sheeter 718 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,520 Speaker 1: that managed to survive. Yeah, thanks Nancy. My message would 719 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:44,360 Speaker 1: be take the time to understand and crystalize why you survived. 720 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 1: That's what That's what's getting me through this. I've gone 721 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 1: from why me? Why am I alive? Two? What am 722 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 1: I going to do for the rest of my life 723 00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,439 Speaker 1: to make a difference. Now I'm on the impact part 724 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 1: of my life. I would encourage survivors amid managing their trauma. 725 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 1: Like Carol said the PTSD, try to seek your out 726 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,759 Speaker 1: why it is you have these precious remaining years left 727 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 1: on this planet and and make a difference in impact 728 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 1: people in this country in any way you can. That's 729 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 1: my best friend. 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