1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: Welcome in What Driving the Grid? Episode four forty nine. 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: This episode of What's Driving the Grid has brought to 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: you by our friends at boost Mobile. It is draft day, Demons. 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: Right now, I'm putting you on the spot. You're Baltimore Ravens. 5 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: You don't have to say a player, but the position 6 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: you most want them to address in this draft is 7 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you the options offensive line, help, pass catcher, 8 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: pass rusher. I think those are the three buckets that 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: you could see them going with the fourteenth pick O line. 10 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: I listen, I think, I think right, and he wasn't 11 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: very good, but yes, I think the I also maybe 12 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: could see Kenyon Sadik the tight end out of Oregon 13 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: because they also lost Isaiah likely but they still do 14 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: have Mark andrews Uh. But I think the most popular 15 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: mak draft pick is Vega, the interior offensive lineman to 16 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: Baltimore at fourteen and so out of Penn State, the 17 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: first interior alignement off the board. So I think that 18 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: is other Well, the most popular mock draft pick is 19 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza number one overall to the Raiders, but the 20 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: next one would be that and so all right, so 21 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: here's the deal. We got a bunch of great mail 22 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: bag questions. We'll take more today. However, we will be 23 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: doing that mail bag next week instead of tomorrow because 24 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: this morning I was thinking, I was like, you know, 25 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,559 Speaker 1: what's pretty dumb to have a podcast drop Friday morning 26 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: that has zero draft commentary in it. So instead, so 27 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: instead of doing the mail bag tomorrow, we are going 28 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: to do that next week and tomorrow I will do 29 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: a live first round draft reaction show. So that's another 30 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: reason for you, guys to let to subscribe to the show. 31 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: It's not really a reason for you to like or 32 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: rate the show. That just makes us feel good, but 33 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: it's a reason for you to subscribe to the show. 34 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: So when that drops, you will have it. Before we 35 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: get to our draft thoughts and our favorite annual game 36 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 1: where I prove to the world that I could run 37 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: an NFL team, in fact, multiple NFL teams where Demons 38 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: works the phones. We are going to talk some NBA 39 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: and the playoffs that have happened since we last chatted, 40 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: including the Lakers huge win on Tuesday night. But first 41 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: straight to voicemail brought to you by Boost Mobile. Keldon 42 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: Johnson wins sixth man of the year a little bit. Listen, 43 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: he's the guy who I would have voted for, but 44 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: I thought Haime Hakez was the going to win it. 45 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: So I'm happy for Keldon. Mike Tomlin's going to NBC, 46 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: and the Royals are moving to Crown Center, which I 47 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: think is gonna be awesome. It's not quite downtown, but 48 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: it's close to downtown. It'll be great for Kansas City. Again, reminder, 49 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: everybody subscribe to the show you Tube, iTunes, Spotify. It 50 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: helps us out. All right, to Monte Before we get 51 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: to the draft, Let's get to the Lakers, which will 52 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: be some basketball commentary, some media criticism. 53 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: Go ahead, Oh so yeah, who would have saw this coming? 54 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 2: The state of the Lakers right now. It seemed like 55 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 2: you didn't even believe in that we're talking about, like 56 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 2: what if they could just win a game, They could 57 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: just get a game, Look, can come back. They're up 58 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: to to zero right now. How did you, of all 59 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 2: people not see this coming? 60 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean I thought they would split the first two. 61 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: What I said was I assuming Luca didn't come back. 62 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: I thought the way the series would go was they 63 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: would split the first two in La, lose the games 64 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: three and four in Houston, win Game five in LA, 65 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: and then Houston puts them away in Houston in Game six. 66 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: Now KD missing game one changed that, and the other 67 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: thing that changed that is the Rockets reverting back to 68 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: who they had been through big sections of the season. 69 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: A team that is totally disconnected, doesn't seem to like 70 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: each other that much, and whose all time legendary top 71 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: twenty all time great player Kevin Durant can't seem to 72 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: handle blitz or a double team to save his life. 73 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: All of that, combined with Lebron James playing the marionette 74 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: strings as well as any player we've ever seen as 75 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: far as running an offense even on nights he didn't 76 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: have it, which Tuesday night he didn't have it, has 77 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: led to the Lakers not only being up to oh 78 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: but controlling this series for basically every second it's been played. 79 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: The Lakers have been living up five to nine points 80 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: throughout this series, with those five to nine point leads 81 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: feeling more secure than fifteen point leaders in the modern 82 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: NBA because Lebron is doing old school Lebron controlling every 83 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: single possession, And that's where there should be some real 84 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: accountability within the media and sorry to start here, but 85 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: for all the absolutely atrocious Lebron James takes that were 86 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: just they weren't even hot takes. They were just the 87 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: accepted conventional wisdom throughout the course of this year going 88 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: into the season, Lebron's contract sure is an albatross for 89 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:52,239 Speaker 1: the Lakers, even though if he had taken the league 90 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: minimum it wouldn't have opened up hardly any cap space. 91 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: But set that cap part aside, it was just like, no, 92 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: he's just you know, he's not worth He's not a 93 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: MAX level player anymore. If anybody out here said, no, 94 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: Lebron's worth the max, they would be laughed. They would 95 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: have been laughed at. Now the games matters. He look 96 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: like he's worth the max all year long, the conventional wisdom. Listen, 97 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: Lebron's still good. But you know, at forty one and 98 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 1: as older than the other old guys Steph Durant Kawhi, like, 99 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: you know, those guys are still top ten players in 100 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: the league, all NBA caliber players, which, by the way, 101 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: Stephan Kawhi were. Lebron's a different place. 102 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 2: In his career. 103 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: What are those guys doing right now? Steph's having the 104 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: time of his life. At Coachella after playing poorly in 105 00:06:55,560 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: playing game. Kawhi is doing whatever he's doing after being 106 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: locked up in a playing game. Kevin Durant is, I 107 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: don't know, struggling to find ways just to get shots 108 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: up against a not great Lakers defense, while Lebron is 109 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: giving you twenty four, eight and ten and setting up 110 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: Luke Canard and Marcus Smart and Rui Hachimura and DeAndre 111 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: Ayton for the exact shots on the exact spots on 112 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: the court. They want to be another take that was 113 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: just taken as gospel. If Lebron decides to keep playing, 114 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: the Lakers probably should want to move off him and 115 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: any that signs him to anything more than the mid 116 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: level isn't serious about winning championships. Everybody was saying that 117 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: you were a fanboy if you pushed back against it, 118 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: and now we're to April and you can't list ten 119 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: guys you'd rather have running your team. And in that 120 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: game too, when Kevin Durant was back and Kevin Durant 121 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: scored twenty points in the first half, and it once 122 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 1: again followed the exact same script as Game one. The 123 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: Lakers control the first half, then almost to the exact 124 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: same time. It was crazy how it happened. Lebron goes 125 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: to the bench late in the second quarter, the Lakers 126 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: turn the ball over four secutive possessions, the Rockets clawback 127 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: in now we're gonna be in a dog fight the 128 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: exact beats of game one. Game two follows the same script, 129 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: and then in the start of the second half in 130 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: Game two, on the Lakers for seven half court possessions. 131 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 1: One of them, Jabari Smith Junior got matched up on Lebron, 132 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 1: and Lebron did what he's done every single time Jabari 133 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: Smith Junior has been on him. He took him to 134 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: the post and posted up on him and drew a 135 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: foul or got a layup. But the other six possessions, 136 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: Katie was guarding Lebron, and six half court possessions in 137 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: a row. Lebron spreads the court, calls up DeAndre Ayton, 138 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: get Shingoon involved in the action, and those six half 139 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: court possessions led to back to back DeAndre Ayton missed 140 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: paint shots, then a DeAndre Ayton layup, then a DeAndre 141 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: Ayton dunk. Then when the Rockets tried to adjust, Lebron 142 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 1: didn't take the screen a Lebron dunk, and then when 143 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: the Rockets tried to adjust again and end up blitzing 144 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 1: the pick and roll, Lebron ends up initiating the action 145 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: to Marcus Smart to Ruyachamura for an open three. Rockets 146 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: have to take Shingoon out of the game, and KD 147 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: got frustrated. Shingoon got taken out of the game, and 148 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: the Lakers never looked back, and now they are in 149 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: the firmest of control of a series that every single 150 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: person covering the series, myself included, said, of the six 151 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: best players, the Rockets have five of them. Unfortunately, the 152 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: one they didn't have is forty one year old Lebron James, 153 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: who's somehow still at this point in his career twenty 154 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: playoff runs in if he's healthy, can control the pace 155 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: and the script of a playoff game unlike almost anyone 156 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: in the league, and he's doing it. He has more 157 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: post ups this postseason than any other team. He has 158 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: sixteen post ups. I don't know about any other team. 159 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: The Knicks have fifteen. I know there's at least five 160 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: teams that have fewer post ups than Lebron. As a 161 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: team this postseason, he's doing it. Differently. But what I 162 00:11:55,559 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: do know is with all that said, it is on 163 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: the board. Demon's that Monday morning it's two to two. 164 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: Like I want to make this clear, the Rockets are 165 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: nine and a half point Game three favorites, and then 166 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: Game four is on Sunday, so you don't get the 167 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: extra day of rest. So the Rockets should win those 168 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: two games and it becomes a best of three. So 169 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: while the moment Durant was ruled out of Game one, 170 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: I bet the Lakers to win the series. The moment 171 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: the Lakers I was on TV after Game one, I said, 172 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: switching my pick, I think the Lakers will win the series. 173 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: And now they won Game two. Lebron's twenty four and 174 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: oh in his career went up to nothing in a series. 175 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: Thirty two and oh in his career went up two 176 00:12:55,880 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: games at any point in a series, I believe the 177 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: Lakers are gonna win in there in great shape. I 178 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: I don't think this thing is you know, a wrap. 179 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: It's over because the Lakers are getting like, I don't 180 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: think Canard and Smart will be as good on the road, 181 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: and as this series wears on, Lebron's age could show up. However, 182 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: what has been so frustrating to me, And I'll get 183 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: to the Rockets side of it. About yesterday's discussion of 184 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 1: the game was going into the series, it was the 185 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: idea of Lebron pulling this off was far fetched. The 186 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: Rockets were minus eight hundred favorites. People were correctly discussing 187 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: it in the terms of if he were to do this, 188 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: where does it rank in all time career accomplishments, And 189 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: the moment it looked like he might actually do it, 190 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: the conversation shifted to what the hell's wrong with Houston? 191 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: How are they letting this happen? And rather than recognizing, yeah, 192 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: they have been accomplices in the potential murder of their season, 193 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: but they're just the getaway car driver. The guy holding 194 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: the knife is Lebron and this would be one of, 195 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: by Vegas odds, the biggest upsets in the history of 196 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: Round one of the playoffs. And at this point the 197 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: Lakers are now favored in the series. And I'm just 198 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: I feel very, very fortunate that I have been able 199 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: to watch every step of the way of what is on. 200 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: Chris Mannix wrote, I haven't read the column yet, but 201 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: I saw the headline on it. A column that I 202 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: believe is of this gist. If folks want to argue 203 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: about who the greatest player was, feel free. But what 204 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: you can't argue about is who's had the greatest career. 205 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: And I feel so incredibly fortunate to be able to 206 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: have documented and watched every step of this career that 207 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: started twenty three years ago. And on that note, real quick, 208 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: I was thinking about this the other day. The here 209 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: are demands the Hall of Famers drafted, you know, in 210 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: when Lebron was drafted, and that era so to speak. Right, 211 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: So Lebron was the O two three draft the Hall 212 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: of Famers from the draft one year before Bron. Okay, 213 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: Yao Ming, Who I don't you're twenty you're twenty seven 214 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: year old? 215 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 2: See you? 216 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you're Yao Ming was drafted one 217 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: year before. 218 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 2: Lebron's crazy Yao Ming. Yeah, that one's a special because 219 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 2: he's like one of the huge guys. So like his 220 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 2: career was a little short, but yeah, I've never seen 221 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 2: basketball game. 222 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:41,479 Speaker 1: Correct, That what I was gonna say. Yao Ming retired 223 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: in twenty eleven. Yeah, Yao Ming. Yao Ming was drafted 224 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: one year before Lebron retired before Lebron. But when he retired, 225 00:16:55,240 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: when Lebron went to Miami, Amari Stotdameier was what drafted 226 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: one year before Lebron. He made the Hall of Fame 227 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: this year Bron's famous draft class. Carmelo he's on the broadcasts. 228 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: Dwayne Wade, he's on the broadcasts. Chris Bosh, he's doing 229 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: you know, he's on some of the broadcasts sometimes. That's 230 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 1: the same year as Lebron, the draft, the year after Lebron. 231 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer Dwight Howard, he's doing broadcasting the year 232 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: the five draft. I don't know if they have it well, 233 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: the Hall of Famer in that class, Chris Paul. He 234 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: just I love CP three is an all time legend. 235 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: Poor guy just got sitting on by his team. 236 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 237 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: Oh six draft. Oh six draft. Might not have thought, Okay, 238 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: here's a good one. Demonse. Best player or arguably best 239 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: player from the six draft. Rondo, that's three years after 240 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 1: Bron was drafted. 241 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 2: How Long retired for like three four years. 242 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, and at the end he was he seemed old, 243 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like Rondo wasn't hasn't been 244 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: great in a decade. Drafted three years after oh seven 245 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: draft Durant and Mike Conley and Al Horford. And here's 246 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: another one, Joe Kim Noah. 247 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 2: How long was Yeah? Those are they were draft. 248 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: Four years after Broun. Like he's credit to Durant for 249 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: doing what he's doing, by the way, I mean, and 250 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: again this credit Bron, dude, it's unbelievable. I'm going to 251 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: give you just a couple more. Oh eight draft Demonse 252 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: five years after Bron, Russ, Derrick Rose, Yeah, Michael Beasley, 253 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: and it got two guys still in the league or 254 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: three guys still in the league again, five years, five 255 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: drafts after Bron, Kevin Love, Brook Lopez and DeAndre Jordan. 256 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: We talked about those guys like they're the oldest players 257 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: in the league. So, I mean, it's just we'll just 258 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: never see another thing like it. And so let's all right, 259 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: let's do some follow ups before we get to the 260 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: other NBA stuff. Just go ahead and go through them. 261 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. So after the game, Lebron said, I don't know 262 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 2: how many more opportunities I'll get to play in the 263 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 2: postseason in my career. Do you think that this is 264 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 2: Lebron's last good run? 265 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: I don't think so, But anyone could be and the 266 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: he he and here is the thing and he knock 267 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: on wood and you hope, against hope. He is at 268 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: a point age wise where if he were to suffer 269 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: a major injury, I just think it's over. Yeah, So 270 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 1: like right, you know what I mean. If he suffered, like, oh, 271 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: an injury where it's like, oh, he's knocked out for 272 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: next season, then I think it's just it's just over. 273 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 2: So it'll be the first time he's ever had an 274 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 2: injury like that. 275 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 1: Huh, well yeah, I mean he he he he. He 276 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: went the first what's the math on this? 277 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 2: His foot or something? 278 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: He went. He went his first fifteen years without ever 279 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: suffering an injury where he had to miss real time. 280 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: His first year with the Lakers, so year sixteen, he 281 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: tore his groin on Christmas and missed a couple months. 282 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: That was his first major injury. Then year seventeen, they 283 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,479 Speaker 1: won the title. Year eighteen, when they were defending the title, 284 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 1: Solomon Hill rolled into his ankle and he missed months. 285 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: That was the worst injury of his career. And that's 286 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:30,199 Speaker 1: and after that, from year eighteen on, he's had a 287 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: bunch of little ones. He had the foot issue, had 288 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 1: the sciatica. The ankle flared up multiple times, but the 289 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: closest thing to a season altering injury was the Solomon 290 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 1: hill into his ankle in year eighteen. But he's now 291 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: year twenty three, so at any point it could be 292 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: the last one. And I don't know where he's gonna 293 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: go next year or what he's gonna do, which I 294 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 1: just I and they if they get through this round, 295 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: they're staring at OKC, who, by the way, Jalen Williams 296 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: heard his hamstring yesterday. We'll talk about that in a bit. 297 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: But they are going to have to be Luke is 298 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: gonna have to be full strength, Austin's gonna have to 299 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: be full strength. Lebron's gonna have to have more gas 300 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: left in the tank to be able to beat a 301 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: version city. 302 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,719 Speaker 2: What version of Lebron do you think we're gonna get 303 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 2: when Luke and Reeves are back. Do you think it's 304 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 2: gonna be a similar how he's doing it now? 305 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: Or I don't think you can watch this version of 306 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: Lebron and the Lakers and then simply say go back 307 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 1: to being third option, right. I don't think that's the 308 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 1: best way to win. Here's what I kind of stumbled 309 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: upon yesterday talking with brew the the Lakers. Probably if 310 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: there was no ego, if there was no anything. Hold on, 311 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: If I sound distracted, it's because I am give me 312 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: one thing, Danielle. Okay, all right. I thought my house 313 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: was getting wrong, I thought so. I was like, what 314 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 1: is going on? Someone is clearly in the house, but 315 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: your mom had wasn't here. She came home and I 316 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: didn't know it. I got nervous for a minute. I 317 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: heard someone rifling through papers. I was like, this is 318 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: not good. All right, I feel better now. Uh uh, So, Demonse, 319 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: let's say there were no contracts, no egos, no anything, right, 320 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: Austin Reeves would have been in the Manu Genobli role 321 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: this year. One of the best players on your team. 322 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: But he runs the second unit. Yeah, he's your sixth man. 323 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: He finishes games that doesn't start him. You know, so 324 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: you but Austin's in a contract year and was playing 325 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: so well early before he got dinged up. When Lebron 326 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: was out, you're not putting you know, you're not putting 327 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: him to the bench. So instead they had this kind 328 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: of awkward situation and Bron's the most malleable superstar. Ever, 329 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 1: so they he eventually changed his own role. I wonder 330 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: if when Austin, let's say Austin comes back on a 331 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: minute restriction, do they say, hey, we're gonna start you 332 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: coming off the bench and then maybe keep it rolling 333 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: like that, you know what, like the and see if 334 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: that's a way to find more possessions. Where that way, 335 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: when Luca takes an offensive possession off which isn't a ton, 336 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: instead of it going to Austin necessarily and go to 337 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: Bron and you know, and they have more of those 338 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 1: more of those units. I think maybe that's something they do. 339 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: But I don't think you can watch how the Lakers 340 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: are playing right now and say we don't want any 341 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: of this now. Again, the only shot they have of 342 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: beating OKC is with Luca being an absolute flamethrower. Because 343 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: here's the other thing that is like Lebron didn't What 344 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 1: was so crazy about Game two is Lebron didn't have it. 345 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: He was missing layups, he was missing free throws. The 346 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: only time it seemed like he felt truly confidence jump 347 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: shot was when he got angry at jay Sean Tait 348 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: and he almost hit him and then he was like, 349 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you, guys something like Lebron didn't have 350 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: it and he just found a way to kind of 351 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: manufacture his twenty eight points. Luca can just give you 352 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 1: thirty five any night. And they're about to play the 353 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: best team in basketball if they get past Houston. So 354 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: I but that listen, JJ Reddick credit to the podcaster. 355 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: He's awesome. All right, let's talk Houston for a minute. 356 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 2: Uh so, yeah, we blamed game one on KD being out. 357 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 2: Katie was obviously in this game. What's the problem? Now? 358 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: A long list. First one, I'm going to talk about Duran. 359 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: Durana is in year nineteen. Duran is in his late thirties. 360 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: Duran is one of the greatest players of all time. Okay, 361 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 1: it is not fair when a player could have retired 362 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: two years ago and nobody would have batted nine given 363 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: age to then be like, you know, this hurts his 364 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: legacy or hold things against him. With that said, kad, 365 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: if he wanted to jump one more tier of the 366 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: all time greats, he needed a final chapter, not in 367 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: a championship. But that didn't end in disaster, and this 368 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: is hurtling towards disaster. He Deman's Kadie has now lost 369 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:28,239 Speaker 1: his last seven playoff games. The he hasn't won a 370 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: playoff game since twenty twenty three. And game two was 371 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: so bizarre because he is such a smart player that 372 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: he seemed totally unprepared and unable to deal with getting doubled, 373 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: like he just I for him to be six of 374 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: seven in the first half for twelve for twenty points 375 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: and finished with twelve shots and nine and overs. And 376 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: it's not like he'd been out three weeks. It'd be 377 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: one thing. It's like he was rusty. He thought he 378 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:15,479 Speaker 1: was gonna play right, so it was it was a 379 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: grizzly look that second half for him. And uh and 380 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: here is listen, some people, I think Steph has moved 381 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: past Durant on most ever most people's all time lists, 382 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: but for a long time they kind of universally regarded 383 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: best players of the post Kobe Shack Duncan generation where 384 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: Lebron and Durant, Steph then ascended. But it was, you know, 385 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: it was Bron and Durant MVP finishes all NBA's everything, 386 00:28:53,240 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: and Durant is call it basically equivalent to Lebron in scoring. 387 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people say he's a better scorer. 388 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: I don't think the facts back that up, but he's 389 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: you know, if one's a ninety nine out of one hundred, 390 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: the others in ninety eight, like they are two of 391 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: the I think there is a very good chance that 392 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: Durant finishes his career ahead of Kareem in points, number 393 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: two all time to Broun in scoring. And yet Bron's 394 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: the greatest player in the history of the game and 395 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: Durant somewhere like sixteenth. And it's because Bron is better 396 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: at literally every other thing that goes along with basketball. 397 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: He's a better passer, he's a better reader of the game, 398 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: he's obviously a better leader. He's better at figuring out 399 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: what a situation needs, all of it. And that is 400 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: really like, here's the thing, because everyone's killing Udoka, who 401 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: has not bathed himself in glory in this series. And 402 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: they're killing Shingoon who listen Turkish demanas Sabonis has hurt 403 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: his trade value, that's for sure. And they're killing Reed 404 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: Shepherd and I'm in Thompson can't shoot all all of that, fine, 405 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: But even the biggest Lebron critics, if I ask you 406 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: this question, Hey, just fun thought exercise, switch Durant and 407 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: Lebron and have Durant on this Lakers team for these 408 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: two games and Bron with these Rockets. What do you 409 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: think this series is? Not only is it two oh Houston, 410 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: it is a round Like these games are not close 411 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: and so there is Like I don't understand why Ema 412 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: Udoka no point this year, wanted to develop im and 413 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: Thompson into being his point guard or just be like, 414 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: you know what, reed Shepherd, I know you're not a 415 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: great defender, but you're the only guy on the damn 416 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: team other than Durant that can shoot, So you figure 417 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: it out. Or why the Rockets front office didn't They 418 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: weren't the ones trying to get c J. McCollum or 419 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: wild S guy Jose Alvarado or hell, honest to god, 420 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: be like, hey, I know it ended poorly. No, I know, 421 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: because not him that would have cost a lot. Uh 422 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: and he's expensive. No. What I was gonna say is, listen, 423 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: I know it ended poorly, and you know you didn't 424 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: like you know, your final games with us, But hey, 425 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: Chris Paul, you want you want to you know, finish 426 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: your career on the court. Something somebody that can dribble 427 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: the ball up the court and get you into offense. 428 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: And so I'm here's my question for Friday Night demonse. 429 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: Do the Rockets fall like? Are they ready for their 430 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: season to be over? 431 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 2: Kind of seems like it. I don't think. I don't 432 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 2: care what we don't point to the Kevin Durant burner 433 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 2: as often. I think like that that type of thing, 434 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 2: it hasn't to you are the veteran, and those type 435 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 2: of allegations get thrown out and it seems like they're true. 436 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 2: And this like the sea, the team is playing, the season, 437 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 2: the team is playing. 438 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, the thing I didn't learn. I didn't know about 439 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: that until like two days ago. And again, I this part, 440 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: I guess is fuzzy, but it seems like the people 441 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: who did the research on it and the you know, 442 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: those were his messages, like that is acknowledged. Did you 443 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: know that group chat we're not like his close friends. 444 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 2: Just like a forum of dudes. It's just NBA fans 445 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 2: or whatever. 446 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I didn't know that until two days ago. 447 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he thought he was. 448 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: That's that's wild. But yeah, I mean I don't no, 449 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: and so I don't so Mike, listen, the Rockets are 450 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: nine and a half point favorites. The teams that go 451 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: up too oh at home, the then the underdog, who 452 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: the Rockets weren't the underdog, but the road team goes 453 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: home and almost always wins. Game three and then game 454 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: four determines if we have a series or not. That's 455 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: how this should go. But man, if the Rockets get 456 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: down early, I wonder if they're like, we're ready for 457 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: the season to be over now here. Let me say 458 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: one other thing and then we'll get to this other stuff. 459 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: The worst case scenario demons for the Lakers Friday night 460 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: is a back and forth, super close loss. Better to 461 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,800 Speaker 1: lose by forty because they play Friday and then Sunday. 462 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: And if it's back and forth close, yes, if it's 463 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,439 Speaker 1: back and forth super close, Lebron will spend a few 464 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: bullets of the gun to try to end the series. 465 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: And if you lose that that then like Game four 466 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: should be a loss almost no matter what it's the 467 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: And then you have a couple of days off before 468 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 1: Game five. So obviously my number one hope is the 469 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: Lakers win. But after the Lakers win, is the Lakers 470 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: are down thirty four points at halftime, and we get 471 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: a bunch of Dalton Connect Bronnie Vanderbilt, Dennis Smith Junior 472 00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 1: like those got those minutes, a Lakers down five the 473 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: whole second half, fighting to come back and then end 474 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: up losing. All right, we do need to talk Wimby 475 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: before we and we're gonna talk some draft here in 476 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: a minute. But today's show is brought to you by 477 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: representing sponsor hard Rock Bet, Florida's sportsbook. 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Isn't 513 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 2: it forty eight hours for concussion? 514 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: Well it's no, it's forty eight hours before you're even 515 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: allowed to be evaluated. Oh so it's forty eight hours minimum. 516 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:29,320 Speaker 1: Game three is Friday, which would be seventy two hours. 517 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: Game four is Sunday. The average time missed in the NBA, 518 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: de Monsay is eight and a half days. And now 519 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,399 Speaker 1: Sham's reported last night he's already doing cardio. He also 520 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 1: reported they play on Wimby traveling to Portland. That stuns me. 521 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: I thought they're playing would be He's never he doesn't. 522 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 2: Get on this stay in San Antonio. 523 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gonna miss games three and four and then 524 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 1: be ready for game five because that was scary. First 525 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: of all. 526 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, fall like he's just so big. 527 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 1: It's like, so, I'm really glad you said that. So 528 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the basketball side of this in 529 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 1: a second, and I this is one of those times 530 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 1: where I really don't want to be aggregated out of 531 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 1: context because this is a delicate situation and I don't 532 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,720 Speaker 1: want anyone to it to appear like I am saying 533 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: anything I'm not saying. But everything about Wimby feels tenuous 534 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: and a little scary. It's why he's so special, like 535 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 1: the real the the flip side of the coin of 536 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,280 Speaker 1: We've never seen a guy be able to tip dunk 537 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 1: his own missed three. We've never seen a guy be 538 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,760 Speaker 1: able to protect the paint while guarding the three point line. 539 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 1: Is what goes along with having a body that size 540 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 1: is just more more times you're going to say I've 541 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 1: never seen that, and normally it's amazing, and then the 542 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 1: other night it was I've never seen an NBA player 543 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: fall quite like that, And this sounds like a ridiculous thing. 544 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 2: Crashing semi or something like flipping over on its side. 545 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 3: Explain you so, like I and I know this, like 546 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 3: I don't know the actual math on this, but just visually, 547 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,359 Speaker 3: because I've seen guys fall like that, and I've seen 548 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,240 Speaker 3: guys fall like that and hit their face on the ground. 549 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 1: It felt to me like because of the extra length 550 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 1: of torso almost that by the time his head hit 551 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,320 Speaker 1: the ground and it was just going a little faster, 552 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 1: like it had got gained more velocity. Yeah, that's what 553 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 1: it That's really what it felt like. And it wasn't 554 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 1: lost on me that the highlight of game one, the 555 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 1: one that they then showed Duncan and Robinson the crowd like, 556 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 1: oh my god, was when weinby like took the ball 557 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: at half court, did the spin move in the paint 558 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,399 Speaker 1: and then dunked. That was almost the exact thing he 559 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 1: was trying to do on this play, And like when 560 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: you're it's so it's the size plus style. He's not 561 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 1: just planting himself in the paint like he's out there. 562 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 4: Moving and it is. It's it is the elephant. 563 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 1: In the room on any of the how many MVPs, 564 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 1: how many championships? How great? Where is this? It's like, man, 565 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 1: how nervous are you gonna be every time this giant 566 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: of a man falls. Now, with that said, I is 567 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,720 Speaker 1: it crazy for me to say it seems a little 568 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:31,439 Speaker 1: lucky he didn't break his jaw, Like seeing that him 569 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: hit and then bounce and hit again and a broken jaw. 570 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 1: Your season's over. That's three months. You're just out something. 571 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,919 Speaker 1: A point Mangenie made I think was off the air 572 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 1: was if his tongue was between his teeth, you know 573 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 1: yet for real, Yeah, he'd have beat a you know, 574 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 1: he would have bit through his tongue, which is something 575 00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: that happens like in car accidents. 576 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 2: Like it's just that so it doesn't I mean, he 577 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 2: doesn't really fall too often. He hasn't taken one of 578 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,280 Speaker 2: these obviously before, which is which is good. 579 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,240 Speaker 1: But and he knows how to fall and he's he's 580 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:22,880 Speaker 1: taking but it's still sports man and the the so 581 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 1: here's so that part of it is like, oh maybe 582 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 1: you know, he got out of this cheaply, so to speak. 583 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 1: The other side of it is though he was unconscious. 584 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 2: Right, oh yeah, like slip for a little bit. 585 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 1: It looked like that's what Yes, when you first saw it, 586 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,280 Speaker 1: Demonse did. So when I first saw it, I didn't 587 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 1: realize the impact. And when I saw him just like 588 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 1: lay down almost like like did you think he was 589 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: like being a little funny like taking a rest or? Okay? 590 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 2: I thought, yeah, I thought he got it cushion, so. 591 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 1: I did so I didn't Maybe I had looked away 592 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 1: for a second or whatever. I didn't realize the impact 593 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 1: of the fall. And it was such like a again, 594 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,799 Speaker 1: almost like how you would draw someone like laying down. 595 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 1: I thought he was, you know, as the bridge would say, yeah, yeah, that. 596 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 1: He was like, all right, I'm gonna let me take 597 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 1: a little rest. And then when he didn't get up, 598 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 1: I was like, and then they showed the ression and 599 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 1: it's a disaster. So now to the Spurs side of it, 600 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:40,919 Speaker 1: the basketball side, blowing that lead was awful for them. 601 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 1: If they're up to Oh, you're worried about Wimby's health 602 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 1: in Asia, but you're not worried about this series at all. 603 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 1: You're up too. Oh you were like twelve and seven 604 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 1: without him this year. You know you should be fine 605 00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 1: one one. Expecting him to make Game three, it's a 606 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,479 Speaker 1: different story, and all of a sudden demands your guy. 607 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 1: The most important person in this series becomes Luke Cornett. 608 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 1: Because the Spurs this year have been awful across the 609 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:29,399 Speaker 1: full season. In minutes Wimby and Cornett are off the court, 610 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 1: one of the reasons they've been so good in the 611 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:36,320 Speaker 1: non Wimby games is because Cornett has filled in his 612 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 1: rim protection. Those defenders defending, and they're great young perimeter defenders, 613 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 1: but they one of the reasons, you know, they have 614 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 1: almost been trained to defend super aggressive, knowing if you 615 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 1: get beat, you got protection behind you. And if it's 616 00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,120 Speaker 1: not Wimby, it's a good rim protector in Cornette. So 617 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,240 Speaker 1: when both those guys are off, the Spurs net rating 618 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,240 Speaker 1: is awful. Well, Cornette's not going to play forty minutes 619 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,359 Speaker 1: and you just lost game two when Avdia didn't have 620 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 1: it and Ovdia didn't play that well. So like it 621 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 1: is it if Demond s a if Wimby misses games 622 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 1: three and four, it's absolutely on the board that it's 623 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 1: three to one Portland and if you're down three to one, 624 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 1: even with Wimby, you can lose that series. 625 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and maybe with a lot more time to prepare 626 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,959 Speaker 2: without them, they kind of got blindsided during the game, 627 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,160 Speaker 2: sure coming game three. 628 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:40,879 Speaker 1: But I mean they didn't play a lot this year 629 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:47,399 Speaker 1: without him. Yeah. One other thing, did you see, uh 630 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:54,240 Speaker 1: what the Blazers tweeted yesterday with just the eyeball emojis. 631 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:59,800 Speaker 1: It's just a one minute video of Dame hitting threes 632 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:07,239 Speaker 1: with Justin Okay, I will now also remind people Dame 633 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:13,760 Speaker 1: tore his achilles before Tatum did. Yeah, by about a month. 634 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,439 Speaker 1: I don't know what it means, but that would be unmol. 635 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 2: Exactly what he went back to the Blazers for. 636 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,040 Speaker 1: I mean, that would be this is the moment, just 637 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 1: just ten minutes off the bench from Dame. He won 638 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 1: the three point contest this year. 639 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean like. 640 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 1: He's been ready. Also, you know he's also ready. 641 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 2: Scoot my guy, Scoot thirty like thirty two or something 642 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 2: like that. 643 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, the top three of that draft career playoff points 644 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 1: Wimby thirty nine, Brandon Miller zero, Scoot forty nine. My 645 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:54,319 Speaker 1: take's not dead. My Scoot take not dead yet. All right, 646 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 1: let's talk okay see okay, see please? 647 00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,359 Speaker 2: Uh So after okay See took a two zero lead 648 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,239 Speaker 2: to the Sun, Devin Booker and Dylan Brooks had something 649 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,160 Speaker 2: to say after the game. First off, Devin Booker said, 650 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 2: it's bad for the sport, bad for the integrity of 651 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 2: the sport. People are going to start viewing this as 652 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,359 Speaker 2: the WWE if they're not held responsible. Dylan Brooks came 653 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,439 Speaker 2: out and said he caught out the flopping, saying, leave 654 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,360 Speaker 2: that for the regular season. For the fans, don't decide 655 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,399 Speaker 2: games on no free throws. You don't normally talk about 656 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,920 Speaker 2: reffing in the games, but did you want to talk 657 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 2: about this case in particular. 658 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:32,360 Speaker 1: Yet Listen because Oka see, fans are don't like me. 659 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 2: Fine. 660 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 1: My history with a few teams in the NBA is 661 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 1: pretty similar. It's my history with the Nuggets and the Celtics, 662 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,359 Speaker 1: the two teams, by the way that this year I'm 663 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 1: picking to go to the finals. I was pretty consistently 664 00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:03,839 Speaker 1: reviled by their fans as a hater and I doubted them, 665 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,279 Speaker 1: and I was then about their ability to win a 666 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:11,440 Speaker 1: championship with their corps, with their team. I was then 667 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:18,640 Speaker 1: proven wrong. They won the championships, and I immediately gave 668 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:24,719 Speaker 1: them they're just due respect as champions. Never once was like, ah, 669 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 1: this was a fluke. They shouldn't have won, not the 670 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 1: best team, and have treated them as the deserved champions 671 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 1: that they are. My history with OKAC is so interesting 672 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 1: because I never disliked them. I was never someone people 673 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,920 Speaker 1: are like, ah, he's a hater. And last year, before 674 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:51,480 Speaker 1: they won a championship, I thought they could win it. Now. 675 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 1: I thought the Lakers with Luca was a particularly bad 676 00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 1: matchup for him, and I didn't pick them to win 677 00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 1: the title. But I wasn't someone like, ah, this is 678 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 1: they're a fraud team. Like I believed in them more 679 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,880 Speaker 1: than I believed in the Celtics before they won their title, 680 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:10,759 Speaker 1: the Nuggets before they won their title, and all year 681 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,239 Speaker 1: long I have called they are the best team, and 682 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 1: all year long I said Shay was the deserving MVP. 683 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,960 Speaker 1: All of that can be true, while this is also 684 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:32,000 Speaker 1: true the way they play as a team. Can you 685 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 1: guys hear that? What's going on? What's going on? I 686 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,799 Speaker 1: almost have to look out the window. We might have 687 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:50,440 Speaker 1: to sound guys outside the window. I think you just 688 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:56,759 Speaker 1: walked down the street. I have no idea, all right. 689 00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:10,799 Speaker 1: As I was saying the way, there is universal agreement 690 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:20,480 Speaker 1: amongst their opponents, their opponent, coaches, and NBA fans as 691 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 1: a whole that their historyonics go beyond selling calls and 692 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:44,839 Speaker 1: go all the way to outright acting is beneath the 693 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,320 Speaker 1: defending champions, with the soon to be two time MVP 694 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:53,319 Speaker 1: favorites to go back to back the shit chat and 695 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,160 Speaker 1: I got no problem the shit Chat was doing yesterday 696 00:50:56,280 --> 00:51:03,040 Speaker 1: was embarrassing. The the fact that the refs don't seem 697 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:09,440 Speaker 1: to be able. It's like they've cast a spell where 698 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:16,000 Speaker 1: you have on one end the single most physical defense 699 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:20,120 Speaker 1: in the league in Okay see, and on the other 700 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:26,439 Speaker 1: end a team that gets the softest whistle of any 701 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,239 Speaker 1: team in the league. And it's the same team in 702 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:37,400 Speaker 1: the same games. It's it is, it's driving poor Doris 703 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 1: Burke insane. Yesterday we saw Devin Booker take a regular 704 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,920 Speaker 1: jump shot get called for an unnatural shooting motion. We 705 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 1: then saw shay No do his rip through things get 706 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,959 Speaker 1: the fouls. We saw Check get a guy in the air, 707 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:59,920 Speaker 1: then turn one hundred and ten degrees to the left 708 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,840 Speaker 1: where he's facing away from the basket to draw the foul. 709 00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:08,440 Speaker 1: Chet also was getting boxed out and just fell down 710 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,439 Speaker 1: on purpose, like it's just it's not it's not fun 711 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,480 Speaker 1: to watch, and they don't need to do it. And 712 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:28,080 Speaker 1: so I can't remember another team driving this many of 713 00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:32,960 Speaker 1: its opponents insane like this, and it is. Do you 714 00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:37,520 Speaker 1: know how angry Dylan Brooks has to be for him? 715 00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:43,120 Speaker 1: In his postgame press conference to compliment Lebron, which he 716 00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,480 Speaker 1: called himself. He was like, he was like I watched 717 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,800 Speaker 1: the clips of Michael Jordan and then he goes Lebron 718 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,719 Speaker 1: called himself, He's like young Lebron, like he wanted to 719 00:52:52,719 --> 00:53:01,680 Speaker 1: make clear, not Lebron now. And it's just that it's frustrating. 720 00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:02,399 Speaker 2: It is. 721 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,319 Speaker 1: Now. The biggest news to come out of that game, though, 722 00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,600 Speaker 1: is Jalen Williams hamstring. Now. It's not the hamstring that 723 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,880 Speaker 1: he injured that he was dealing with earlier this year. 724 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:17,520 Speaker 1: But you know, you guys have heard me talking about 725 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,160 Speaker 1: this quite a bit. Seven years in a row the 726 00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:24,440 Speaker 1: defending champion has gotten clipped in round two or earlier. 727 00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,879 Speaker 1: When the playoffs started, it looked like the thunder We're 728 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,480 Speaker 1: going to be facing this super flawed Rockets team in 729 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:36,359 Speaker 1: round two, and that streak was destined to come to 730 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:40,840 Speaker 1: an end. If Jalen Williams is out, a lot of 731 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:45,280 Speaker 1: ifs here, and if the Lakers cannot only beat the Rockets, 732 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:50,320 Speaker 1: but somehow beat the Rockets relatively quickly and get some rest, 733 00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:55,279 Speaker 1: and if Austin and Luca are back now you might 734 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:56,680 Speaker 1: have yourself a series. 735 00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,320 Speaker 2: A very possible ifs. 736 00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:04,440 Speaker 1: They're all very possible ifs. But that's again, like even 737 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:08,600 Speaker 1: if how many ifs was that? Like, the Lakers win quickly, 738 00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,760 Speaker 1: if Jadub is out, if Luca comes back, if Austin 739 00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:16,040 Speaker 1: comes back. This is where it's a good you know, 740 00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,560 Speaker 1: the old stats class. Let's say all of those ifs 741 00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:24,640 Speaker 1: are eighty percent demons, then what are the odds of 742 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,920 Speaker 1: four eighty percent probability events all happening? Just do the 743 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,960 Speaker 1: math and real time, kids, eighty percent of eighty percent 744 00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:38,680 Speaker 1: is sixty four percent. Eighty percent of sixty four percent 745 00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:43,480 Speaker 1: is fifty percent. Eighty percent of fifty percent is forty percent. 746 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,480 Speaker 1: So if all of so we have about a forty 747 00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:54,520 Speaker 1: percent chance of maybe having a series. Hey, yeah, forty percent. 748 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,560 Speaker 1: We'll take it. But we got it. I don't have 749 00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,520 Speaker 1: the news yet, and I don't think anyone has the 750 00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:03,799 Speaker 1: news yet on uh Jada, but we'll keep it. We'll 751 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,239 Speaker 1: keep an eye on that obviously. All right, let's just 752 00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,480 Speaker 1: quickly do some NBA quick hitters before we go to 753 00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:11,000 Speaker 1: the draft. 754 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,200 Speaker 2: Uh So, the Pistons steady the ship against the Magic. 755 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,960 Speaker 2: Do you think this holds the crown for biggest first 756 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:18,080 Speaker 2: game overreaction? 757 00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,439 Speaker 1: Well, it wasn't gonna just gonna be first game because 758 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,680 Speaker 1: it's tied at halftime, and then the Piston's gone to 759 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:29,040 Speaker 1: twenty seven to three run to put it away. Listen, 760 00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:32,840 Speaker 1: the magic. This is where the regular season does matter. 761 00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:34,920 Speaker 1: You kind of are who you are in the regular 762 00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,759 Speaker 1: season and the magic. We're never gonna be a team 763 00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,120 Speaker 1: that was gonna play great basketball for two weeks straight. 764 00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:44,160 Speaker 1: They just weren't going to be. So now here's what's 765 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:50,479 Speaker 1: not an overreaction. I do think it's going to take 766 00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:55,040 Speaker 1: some real hardened playoff magic in a non complimentary way 767 00:55:55,840 --> 00:56:00,680 Speaker 1: for the Pistons to beat the Cabs, because I don't think. 768 00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,960 Speaker 1: I do think the Pistons offense is being exposed a 769 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:08,800 Speaker 1: bit as as concerning as we worried it might be 770 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:10,799 Speaker 1: for the playoffs. But they're not gonna be a problem 771 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,800 Speaker 1: getting past the magic. And don't put anything past James Harden, 772 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,840 Speaker 1: who hasn't played in the conference finals in fifteen Aaron, sorry, 773 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,040 Speaker 1: in eight years? All right? 774 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,760 Speaker 2: Next, is it a must win for Nuggets and Knicks 775 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:24,640 Speaker 2: who both lost an embarrassing fashion. 776 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:31,799 Speaker 1: No, I think it's a must win for both of 777 00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:36,800 Speaker 1: them if they want to avoid these series going seven. 778 00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:43,719 Speaker 1: But it's a must split for both of them. Like 779 00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,480 Speaker 1: that's all that, you just you just have to regain 780 00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,560 Speaker 1: home court. So no, I don't think it's a must 781 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:50,439 Speaker 1: win for either one. 782 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:55,120 Speaker 2: Next MAXI and vj Eds comb combined for fifty nine 783 00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,400 Speaker 2: and that game to win against my Celtics. What do 784 00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,720 Speaker 2: you think this backcourt ceiling is in the future. 785 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,640 Speaker 1: I think could be. I mean, they could be the 786 00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,879 Speaker 1: best backcourt in the NBA. I don't like I think that. 787 00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,240 Speaker 2: I like J Cam a lot. I also like s MAXI. 788 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 1: I mean, yes, the real quick, your your thoughts on 789 00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:17,160 Speaker 1: your Celtics losing. 790 00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:23,640 Speaker 2: All right, not worry dropped the game. It's it's cool, yeah, 791 00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,600 Speaker 2: I mean, just just come out and win this next one, 792 00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:26,600 Speaker 2: and we obviously can't. 793 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,440 Speaker 1: You're just not concerned at all. 794 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,720 Speaker 2: No, but if we lose again, it would be concerning 795 00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,120 Speaker 2: for the future of the like of the playoffs, just 796 00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,560 Speaker 2: because are we losing two games of Philly. 797 00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:43,320 Speaker 1: Well, so also listen the tax of playing the style 798 00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:47,840 Speaker 1: they play of that many threes exactly the nights you're 799 00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:52,200 Speaker 1: the Knights, you are cold, You're just gonna lose. So 800 00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:56,360 Speaker 1: Sean Grandy had this great tweet in the last one 801 00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,440 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty games to Monte playoffs in regular season, 802 00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:04,440 Speaker 1: They're been twelve times the Celtics hit twenty six percent, 803 00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,560 Speaker 1: which is what they hit in this game, or less 804 00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:12,240 Speaker 1: from three they're zero to twelve. The they just never 805 00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,800 Speaker 1: win that way because they never stop shooting them. Now, 806 00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:20,800 Speaker 1: the ominous note of that is three of those twelve 807 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:25,560 Speaker 1: are playoff games Games one and two against the Knicks 808 00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:30,000 Speaker 1: last year, which led to losing the series. But I agree, 809 00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,240 Speaker 1: I think, I think, I think they're fine. I think 810 00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:36,720 Speaker 1: that I still think Celtics in five is a likely 811 00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,680 Speaker 1: outcome of this series, and I would be stunned if 812 00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:43,440 Speaker 1: it goes more than six. All Right, You ever notice 813 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,000 Speaker 1: how everything keeps going up? Rintz going up, streaming services 814 00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,760 Speaker 1: going up, your favorite barrio spots charging you extra for Salza. 815 00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,560 Speaker 1: Not with Boostmobile. With Boosmobile, you and your phone bill 816 00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,800 Speaker 1: don't have to play the will this go up soon? Game? Why? 817 00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,640 Speaker 1: Because boost Mobile has a limited talk, text and data 818 00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,640 Speaker 1: plan at a price that will never go up, in fact, 819 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,000 Speaker 1: the same price you pay for life. So switch now 820 00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,160 Speaker 1: for unlimited wireless at a price that will never go up. 821 00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:09,920 Speaker 1: Only at boost Mobile. After thirty gigs, customers make experience 822 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,360 Speaker 1: over speeds, customers will pay twenty dollars per month as 823 00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:16,040 Speaker 1: long as they remain active on the Boost Unlimited Plan. 824 00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,080 Speaker 1: All right, Demon's let's do Mendoza. 825 00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,520 Speaker 2: Uh yeah. Ever since the Natty, everybody knows or has 826 00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,800 Speaker 2: been saying, Fernando Mendoza is going number one to the Raiders. Yeah, 827 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,160 Speaker 2: which means he will be coming over to your AFC, 828 00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:31,600 Speaker 2: another great quarterback. It's time to officially plant your your 829 00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,520 Speaker 2: plant your flag on Mendoza. What are your thoughts. 830 00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,919 Speaker 1: I think he's obviously the right pick, and I think 831 00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:45,440 Speaker 1: he'll be good. And I know that's tepid, but I 832 00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:53,400 Speaker 1: think that he And I'm not just saying this because 833 00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:59,280 Speaker 1: this player is now in Vegas with him, but I 834 00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:03,040 Speaker 1: think Kurt Cousins tier of quarterback is where I see 835 01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza. And if you can get Kirk Cousins tier 836 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:12,000 Speaker 1: production with him being a better, you know, big game 837 01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:16,560 Speaker 1: quarterback than Kirk, you got yourself a good player and 838 01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,479 Speaker 1: you be the best quarterback the Raiders have had since 839 01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:24,360 Speaker 1: Rich Gannett. They'd be thrilled with that. And so that 840 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:29,760 Speaker 1: is that, you know, I I don't look at him 841 01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:36,680 Speaker 1: as future MVP candidate. Frand like Frank Star. 842 01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:38,680 Speaker 2: I mean, you said Kirk Cousins, so maybe not. 843 01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:41,560 Speaker 1: No, I don't see the Raiders winning a Super Bowl. 844 01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:45,720 Speaker 2: I mean no, I don't. I don't. 845 01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:50,320 Speaker 1: But I think, uh, I think that he like like, 846 01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,840 Speaker 1: I think he'll be a good, good player and they'll 847 01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,160 Speaker 1: be happy they made the pick. I think, you know, 848 01:00:55,280 --> 01:01:02,480 Speaker 1: he'll probably you know, in his prime, be you know, 849 01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:06,040 Speaker 1: like the twelfth best quarterback in the NFL, which is 850 01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:09,040 Speaker 1: solid like the you know, the you know, a little 851 01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,680 Speaker 1: worse than Dak, a little better than Kirk like out 852 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:17,240 Speaker 1: there like that's you know, which is good. But and 853 01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:19,720 Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with that. But I don't think it's 854 01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:23,200 Speaker 1: as a Chiefs fan, it's a bit of a bummer 855 01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:27,160 Speaker 1: that the that the Raiders won't just be dysfunctional at 856 01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,960 Speaker 1: quarterback for the next decade if I'm right. But it's 857 01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,920 Speaker 1: not like scary, you know what I mean. It's the 858 01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:36,160 Speaker 1: it's not how I feel like if the I don't 859 01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:40,360 Speaker 1: think he has MVP upside, all right, I do want 860 01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,120 Speaker 1: before we play our phones game and talk Chiefs. 861 01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:44,760 Speaker 2: I So. 862 01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:48,840 Speaker 1: Some people have asked why I hadn't talked about the 863 01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:53,880 Speaker 1: Varabel Diana Rossini story, and it was multi layered as 864 01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:57,760 Speaker 1: to why I hadn't done it. First one was we 865 01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:01,720 Speaker 1: don't really have a history on this show of being 866 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:06,160 Speaker 1: you know, what people would call bedroom police, and if 867 01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:10,280 Speaker 1: it doesn't touch the like, we're not a salacious kind 868 01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,760 Speaker 1: of gossipy show. And I didn't know how, if at all, 869 01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,960 Speaker 1: this was going to touch the field. And also, I'm 870 01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,960 Speaker 1: not going to lie to you guys, full disclosure. I 871 01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:25,000 Speaker 1: know Diana, Diana's you know, has been on shows I've 872 01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:28,960 Speaker 1: been on, and I felt like she was going through, 873 01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:34,000 Speaker 1: you know, a very very tough time and I didn't 874 01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:38,000 Speaker 1: feel a need to pile on to that. And I 875 01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:42,000 Speaker 1: didn't think there was anything in the beginning that made 876 01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:45,080 Speaker 1: it really relevant to the sports version of it. 877 01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:45,840 Speaker 2: There. 878 01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:49,560 Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of you know, alleged or 879 01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:54,680 Speaker 1: potential extramarital affairs in sports all the time that we 880 01:02:54,840 --> 01:03:00,400 Speaker 1: never talk about on this show. That star did to 881 01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:07,400 Speaker 1: change once Vrabel, you know, Ben Strauss wrote a great 882 01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:11,440 Speaker 1: article for ESPN dot com that really gave a lot 883 01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:16,480 Speaker 1: of details that made the initial deniability of this stuff 884 01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:22,840 Speaker 1: very difficult for all parties involved. Then Vrabel went from 885 01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:27,800 Speaker 1: his public acknowledgment was this is ridiculous and doesn't merit 886 01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:31,480 Speaker 1: a response to this has been a very hard time 887 01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:34,800 Speaker 1: on the people I love the most with it felt, 888 01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:36,400 Speaker 1: and it felt to me when he did that press 889 01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,880 Speaker 1: commence like you skipped a step, buddy, Like is this 890 01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:42,840 Speaker 1: laughable and doesn't merit a response? Or is this something 891 01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,840 Speaker 1: that's you know, really really tough on your family and 892 01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:48,720 Speaker 1: loved ones. So once that happened, I was like, all right, 893 01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:52,680 Speaker 1: this might be something that touches the field. And now 894 01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:58,600 Speaker 1: this morning, when it is reported that Mike vrabel is 895 01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:02,560 Speaker 1: going to be stepping away from day three of the 896 01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:11,320 Speaker 1: draft to do some form of counseling, means a lot 897 01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:16,600 Speaker 1: of alarms should be going off. I The fact that 898 01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,240 Speaker 1: they're not, you know, it's not like, all right, we're 899 01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:27,640 Speaker 1: going to start the counseling on the day after the draft, 900 01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:32,520 Speaker 1: or the fact that whenever they're going to start it, 901 01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:40,520 Speaker 1: they felt the need to make this publicly known makes 902 01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:49,720 Speaker 1: me wonder if rabel Is does have concerns that more 903 01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:53,960 Speaker 1: information about this or other things could be on their 904 01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:59,280 Speaker 1: way to coming out. And I no longer think it 905 01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:07,600 Speaker 1: is ridiculous to question how will this impact his future 906 01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:13,920 Speaker 1: with the Patriots. It is the timing of the fact 907 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:18,840 Speaker 1: that the day of the Draft. It is being reported 908 01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:22,480 Speaker 1: that Vrabel on Saturday of the draft is going to 909 01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:26,240 Speaker 1: be away from the team. Dealing with this sure makes 910 01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:31,840 Speaker 1: me concerned that either more things are coming or this 911 01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:36,480 Speaker 1: is worse behind the scenes than you know, I had thought. 912 01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:38,520 Speaker 2: So I. 913 01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:45,520 Speaker 1: It now becomes a real story that it would be, 914 01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,800 Speaker 1: you know, irresponsible of me. I think not to acknowledge 915 01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:52,160 Speaker 1: or discuss and if people want to, you know, people 916 01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:55,480 Speaker 1: can judge my coverage of everything however they want. Everyone's 917 01:05:55,600 --> 01:06:01,040 Speaker 1: like I. However people feel about how I do my job, 918 01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:05,040 Speaker 1: you can feel however you you're entitled to. But I 919 01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,480 Speaker 1: try to be transparent honest with you guys about kind 920 01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:12,200 Speaker 1: of my process on this stuff. But I some alarm 921 01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:16,640 Speaker 1: bells are going off in my head about ooh, is 922 01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:21,240 Speaker 1: there more to come here? What's actually going on? And 923 01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:26,080 Speaker 1: what is drastic enough for Vrabel to be missing day 924 01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:30,160 Speaker 1: three of the draft? And if I'm a Pats fan, 925 01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:37,360 Speaker 1: I I this would have moved from embarrassing, pardon me, 926 01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:45,400 Speaker 1: embarrassing and unfortunate too potentially actually concerning. So there's my 927 01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:49,120 Speaker 1: take there. Before we play our phones game, demons, let's 928 01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:50,400 Speaker 1: do some Chiefs draft stuff. 929 01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:53,439 Speaker 2: So your chiefs have the ninth and twenty ninth picks 930 01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:56,680 Speaker 2: in the draft. Wow, if things go according to play 931 01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:58,720 Speaker 2: and you guys will never be picking this high, how 932 01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,120 Speaker 2: badly do you need to on these picks for the 933 01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:02,360 Speaker 2: to keep the dynasty alive? 934 01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:06,200 Speaker 1: Got to hit on him. You gotta get multiple starters 935 01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:09,040 Speaker 1: out of this draft, and you have to get a 936 01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:15,600 Speaker 1: if not star, true long term impact guy from the 937 01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:16,240 Speaker 1: ninth pick. 938 01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:17,520 Speaker 2: Just have to. 939 01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:25,040 Speaker 1: And I, you know, I there is a weird, you know, 940 01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:30,440 Speaker 1: subset of Chiefs fans that are anti Brett Veach, and 941 01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:35,040 Speaker 1: I think that's insane. Now, I also like Veach personally. 942 01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:38,880 Speaker 1: I you know, again, I'm pretty transparent with you guys. 943 01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:42,640 Speaker 1: I have a good relationship with him. I've never like 944 01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:45,479 Speaker 1: It's not like I've never hung out with the guy. 945 01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:48,640 Speaker 1: We're not dear friends. And I, you know, I call 946 01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:51,400 Speaker 1: it as I see it. But I do like him personally. 947 01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,880 Speaker 1: But what I like most about Brett Veach is he 948 01:07:55,960 --> 01:08:02,040 Speaker 1: has been from an managerial side, one of the biggest 949 01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:06,560 Speaker 1: hands in creating the defining dynasty of this era, and 950 01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:11,960 Speaker 1: the Tyree killtrade took massive courage, and not only did 951 01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:15,040 Speaker 1: he do it, he then nailed the picks. Well, this 952 01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:18,800 Speaker 1: is the most important draft since then, and we're going 953 01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:21,240 Speaker 1: to do a full mock draft show on the TV 954 01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:23,120 Speaker 1: show and then tomorrow we're we can do it to 955 01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:27,719 Speaker 1: kind of date Round one reaction. But I will get 956 01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:32,400 Speaker 1: into the chief stuff here with hard rock bet demon's 957 01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:34,240 Speaker 1: a so go ahead. 958 01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:38,960 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, so our friends are sorry, Our friends are 959 01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:40,960 Speaker 2: hard rock bet have the odds for who will be 960 01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:44,200 Speaker 2: picked number nine, which was the best value to bet on. 961 01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:47,759 Speaker 2: We got Baine at plus three seventy five, Delayne plus 962 01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:51,320 Speaker 2: four hundred, Tyson at plus five hundred, Bano at plus 963 01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:54,760 Speaker 2: five hundred, Maui, Noah at plus eight fifty, Downs at 964 01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,600 Speaker 2: plus eleven hundred. It's a dcat plus twelve hundred, and 965 01:08:57,760 --> 01:08:59,280 Speaker 2: Tate at plus twelve hundred. 966 01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,439 Speaker 1: All right, so let me go listen. If Carnel Tate 967 01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,880 Speaker 1: is there at nine, I believe they will take him. 968 01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,120 Speaker 1: I do not think he will be there at nine. 969 01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:12,280 Speaker 1: A lot of people have mocked the Chiefs taking Fano 970 01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:17,080 Speaker 1: or Mainoa, the two offensive linemen. I do not believe 971 01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:23,519 Speaker 1: they are taking it an offensive lineman at nine. I 972 01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:27,479 Speaker 1: would be very surprised, given the Chiefs history, if they 973 01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:29,960 Speaker 1: use the ninth overall pick on a corner. I think 974 01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:35,240 Speaker 1: they believe they can develop corners. I sneaky, don't hate 975 01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:37,800 Speaker 1: the idea of Sadik, even though it would be a 976 01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:41,840 Speaker 1: total luxury pick. The Chiefs might not have the tight end. 977 01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:48,400 Speaker 1: But I believe the Chiefs are taking either Caleb Downs, 978 01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:51,800 Speaker 1: maybe the best player in college football, the safety out 979 01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:58,320 Speaker 1: of Ohio State, or Rubin Bain Junior despite his short arms. 980 01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:02,960 Speaker 1: I don't you know. Mock Draft four point zero my 981 01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:07,120 Speaker 1: official mock draft coming out on the TV show today, 982 01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:10,759 Speaker 1: but I will reveal this. I believe Ruben Bain Junior 983 01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,120 Speaker 1: is going to be there. I think Rubyen Bain Junior 984 01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,840 Speaker 1: is going to be the pick plus three seven. So 985 01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:18,400 Speaker 1: he is the favorite on hard Rock bet. He's the 986 01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:20,679 Speaker 1: guy that I had the Chiefs taking in the first 987 01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:23,120 Speaker 1: mock draft I did. He is the guy will have 988 01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:25,280 Speaker 1: the Chiefs taking in the final mock draft I do. 989 01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:28,920 Speaker 1: And then I think they feel in the with the 990 01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:32,280 Speaker 1: twenty ninth pick, they can go. You know, they can 991 01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:36,080 Speaker 1: look at wide receiver, corner, or maybe offensive line in there, 992 01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:37,839 Speaker 1: but I think it will be wide receiver or corner 993 01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:41,519 Speaker 1: depending on who's available. So I think Rubyen Bain Junior 994 01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:47,800 Speaker 1: is the pick. Oh my goodness, gracious, hold on, so 995 01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:50,840 Speaker 1: let me. I want to check something. Demons talk to 996 01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:53,880 Speaker 1: me for a second, and then the producers tell me 997 01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:56,320 Speaker 1: if the sound gets bad, because we're about to play 998 01:10:56,400 --> 01:11:00,559 Speaker 1: this game and my AirPod just died, I see, so 999 01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:02,240 Speaker 1: keep talking to me. 1000 01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:02,599 Speaker 2: All right. 1001 01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:06,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, so this draft advisor thing, and you guys tell 1002 01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:09,240 Speaker 1: me just hold on, just tell us when you hear Demonse. 1003 01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:11,120 Speaker 1: If the audio is messed up, then I'm gonna have 1004 01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:11,680 Speaker 1: to fix it. 1005 01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,760 Speaker 2: So yeah, we America, we know that you are a 1006 01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:18,799 Speaker 2: great mock drafter. The NFL coaches know it, the gms 1007 01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:21,559 Speaker 2: know it. Once again, all thirty two teams will have 1008 01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:24,040 Speaker 2: your number on a deck to call you in case 1009 01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:27,040 Speaker 2: they can't make their final decision. So in the extremely 1010 01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:29,720 Speaker 2: likely scenario that some of them weigh in on you 1011 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:32,120 Speaker 2: for their pick tonight, need a little bit of practice. 1012 01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:35,439 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna play an NFL GM or coach calling you. 1013 01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:36,920 Speaker 2: You have to tell me what I do, what I 1014 01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:39,040 Speaker 2: should do with my pick in sixty seconds. 1015 01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:41,920 Speaker 1: God, I can't wait for this all right. First of all, guys, 1016 01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:45,000 Speaker 1: put in the dock. Did was Demonse's audio bleeding over 1017 01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:46,439 Speaker 1: into mine? Or are we good to go? 1018 01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:53,479 Speaker 2: Okay, We're good, great, all right, all right, hey Nick, 1019 01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,320 Speaker 2: it's Mani austin front with the Cardinals. We are at 1020 01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:58,559 Speaker 2: a pickle. I tell you Reese and Love are still 1021 01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:00,960 Speaker 2: on the board. But the Cowboy it's just offered the 1022 01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:03,479 Speaker 2: twelfth and the twentieth and a third to move up. 1023 01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:05,720 Speaker 2: What should we do? Sixty seconds ago? 1024 01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:13,040 Speaker 1: Listen, MANI, I gotta tell you this is a dream 1025 01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:16,679 Speaker 1: come true for you guys. You want an offensive lineman, 1026 01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:21,040 Speaker 1: but there is no offensive lineman worth the twelfth overall 1027 01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:24,320 Speaker 1: or the third overall pick. So here, here's what you're 1028 01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:29,640 Speaker 1: gonna do. You are going to take this deal and 1029 01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:33,080 Speaker 1: be thrilled about it. You're gonna move back. You're then 1030 01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:36,760 Speaker 1: gonna watch the board and see if Mali, Noah or 1031 01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:42,479 Speaker 1: Fono start if both stay available, as the top ten 1032 01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:46,519 Speaker 1: keeps rolling, Now if one of them goes off the board, 1033 01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:49,599 Speaker 1: be ready. You gotta be ready to call New Orleans. 1034 01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:51,559 Speaker 1: You gotta be ready to call Kansas City. You gotta 1035 01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:54,519 Speaker 1: be ready to call Cincinnati to see if you need 1036 01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:57,760 Speaker 1: to flip that twelfth pick plus a little something to 1037 01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:01,080 Speaker 1: move up. But you accept this deal from you're happy 1038 01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:03,360 Speaker 1: and you hope to go get one of those offensive Lineman. 1039 01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:07,040 Speaker 1: Congrats many Jerry Jones just made you a very happy man. 1040 01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:14,280 Speaker 2: We'll take it all right, Nick, It's John Harbaugh. I 1041 01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:16,400 Speaker 2: had our GM, Shane, go grab some pizzas so I 1042 01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:18,679 Speaker 2: can make the pick. We're in luck the top three 1043 01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:21,439 Speaker 2: picks when it's expected, and the Titans drafted Carnell Tate. 1044 01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:23,439 Speaker 2: We have our pick of all of our top guys 1045 01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:26,840 Speaker 2: on offense and defense? What side should we prioritize first? 1046 01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:28,720 Speaker 2: And is it too risky to wait for the other 1047 01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:30,479 Speaker 2: at ten sixty seconds? 1048 01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:35,760 Speaker 1: Go wow, So Mendoza, Reese, Bailey, and Tate are off 1049 01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:38,679 Speaker 1: the board. You're sitting there at five. All right, here's 1050 01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:41,200 Speaker 1: the first thing I want you to do. John. I 1051 01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:44,519 Speaker 1: want you to call Washington and I want you to 1052 01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:48,400 Speaker 1: see if they are willing to way overpay to go 1053 01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:51,240 Speaker 1: from seven to five so they can draft Jeremiah Love 1054 01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:54,760 Speaker 1: if they are willing to do it. If they and 1055 01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:57,040 Speaker 1: make them pay a lot, tell them you want their 1056 01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:59,479 Speaker 1: second round pick to do it. They'll probably say no. 1057 01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:05,360 Speaker 1: If they say no, then you happily draft Jeremiah Love yourself. 1058 01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:11,639 Speaker 1: It's no problem. So that's the move. And then once 1059 01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:17,240 Speaker 1: you draft Love at five, you can at ten Caleb 1060 01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:20,479 Speaker 1: Downs should still be there and all of a sudden 1061 01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:22,439 Speaker 1: you have impact guy on both sides of the ball. 1062 01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:30,120 Speaker 1: You also could consider in that spot going with Jordan 1063 01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:34,360 Speaker 1: Tyson out of Arizona, but Carl Washington, and then figure 1064 01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:36,599 Speaker 1: out if they'll make the move. If not, Jeremiah loves 1065 01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:37,000 Speaker 1: your pick. 1066 01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:44,719 Speaker 2: Next, it's your man, Brett Veach. We're at Patton Travis's restaurant. 1067 01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:48,000 Speaker 2: Good news, the stakes are great. Bad news, the Saints 1068 01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:51,080 Speaker 2: just drafted our Kai Rubin Bain. Caleb Downs and Jordan 1069 01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,720 Speaker 2: Tyson are still available, and Andy Reid is screaming at 1070 01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:55,960 Speaker 2: me to go o line. But now you know is gone. 1071 01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:58,160 Speaker 2: What do we do sixty seconds? 1072 01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:06,120 Speaker 1: Well, this is where you're gonna tell Andy. Don't worry 1073 01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:09,000 Speaker 1: about the offensive line. We got that cover. But what 1074 01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:11,479 Speaker 1: you do need to do is call up Steve Spagna. 1075 01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:14,519 Speaker 1: Get Spags in the in the room right now, and 1076 01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:18,760 Speaker 1: you need to find out can Caleb Downs be his 1077 01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:22,599 Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton. Now he's a lot shorter, but if Caleb 1078 01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:26,680 Speaker 1: Downs can be the best player on this defense, can 1079 01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:29,040 Speaker 1: take on Nicola. 1080 01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:31,800 Speaker 2: Who's uh oh, sounds like Jerry Jones is called and 1081 01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:35,000 Speaker 2: he's listening to Schrager Dallas has offered us the twelfth, 1082 01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:37,559 Speaker 2: the twentieth, the ninth, or the twelfth and the twentieth 1083 01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:39,719 Speaker 2: for the ninth and the twenty ninth. What should we do. 1084 01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:44,920 Speaker 1: Twelve and twenty for nine and twenty nine. We're debating 1085 01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:48,240 Speaker 1: between Caleb Downs and Jordan Tyson. 1086 01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:51,040 Speaker 2: We got ten seconds. 1087 01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:57,080 Speaker 1: No, I understand what we have Jerry. The answer Jerry 1088 01:15:57,160 --> 01:16:02,599 Speaker 1: is no, and we're taking Caleb Downs. Just real quick, cool, 1089 01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:04,960 Speaker 1: Oh okay, never mind, don't answer that phone call. I 1090 01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:08,320 Speaker 1: want to explain this real quick. The reason I wouldn't 1091 01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:13,160 Speaker 1: trade twelve and twenty for nine and twenty nine is 1092 01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:25,799 Speaker 1: purely because, uh gosh, darn it, hold on, if who's 1093 01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:28,599 Speaker 1: drafting number eleven? I have to remind myself real quick 1094 01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:33,759 Speaker 1: my because I would not want to run at risk 1095 01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:38,760 Speaker 1: not getting one of the Marquee defensive players. And if 1096 01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:42,000 Speaker 1: the and if and if I'm not getting the Marquee 1097 01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:46,400 Speaker 1: defensive player, it's because I want to go receiver. And 1098 01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:49,879 Speaker 1: my concern with moving from nine to twelve with Dallas 1099 01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:54,000 Speaker 1: is that Dallas is moving up to takedowns and then 1100 01:16:54,160 --> 01:17:02,880 Speaker 1: the Giants or Dolphins, pardon me, the Giants or Dolphins 1101 01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:08,640 Speaker 1: could end up taking Jordan Tyson. And now then I 1102 01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:12,320 Speaker 1: almost have to go with the I almost have to 1103 01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:14,439 Speaker 1: go with the offensive line, which I don't want to do. 1104 01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:15,400 Speaker 1: All right, next. 1105 01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:20,960 Speaker 2: It's Brandon Bean. I know I'm shocked. I still have 1106 01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:23,599 Speaker 2: a job. Please help me keep it, mister, right Boston 1107 01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:27,200 Speaker 2: and Concepcion is still available as a slew of defenders, 1108 01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:29,720 Speaker 2: we like, what is our best course of action? They 1109 01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:31,560 Speaker 2: try to get back to the Arrowhead Invitational. 1110 01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:36,480 Speaker 1: You got to take the best defensive front seven guy available, 1111 01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:39,439 Speaker 1: or you know, just the best defender available. Here's the reason. 1112 01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:42,720 Speaker 1: You can't take a receiver. You just spent the sixtieth 1113 01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:46,200 Speaker 1: pick on a receiver in Dj Moore. You can't spend 1114 01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:49,120 Speaker 1: the twenty sixth pick and the sixtieth pick on a receiver. 1115 01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:53,360 Speaker 1: So and if you were going to, you don't want 1116 01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:57,800 Speaker 1: it to be the fifth receiver taken in the draft. So, 1117 01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:01,120 Speaker 1: whether you want to take Cayden McDonald out of Ohio State, 1118 01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:05,479 Speaker 1: whether you want to go with one of the top corners, 1119 01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:09,960 Speaker 1: which you've had trouble drafting, you have to upgrade the defense, 1120 01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:13,080 Speaker 1: and that's where you need to go. You already spent 1121 01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:16,679 Speaker 1: your premium pick on a receiver already so Brandon Bean, 1122 01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:20,080 Speaker 1: that's my advice. And also, don't call me again unless 1123 01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:22,840 Speaker 1: you're looking for a job, which I probably wouldn't hire. 1124 01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:27,720 Speaker 1: That was great. I love this game. We do this 1125 01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:35,320 Speaker 1: every year, all right. So a few scheduling notes. Tomorrow 1126 01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:38,080 Speaker 1: we will have an episode where a Round one draft 1127 01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:42,160 Speaker 1: reaction show. That will be tomorrow today. On first things first, 1128 01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:46,000 Speaker 1: we have at the full my official final mock draft, 1129 01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:48,479 Speaker 1: mock Draft four point zero. That's the one that I 1130 01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:51,439 Speaker 1: will send in to be graded, to be judged against 1131 01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:56,200 Speaker 1: the other mock drafters. And next Friday we will have 1132 01:18:56,240 --> 01:19:00,320 Speaker 1: a mailbag episode. Great job to Blue Duck and Volume. 1133 01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:02,599 Speaker 1: Great job to the audience for dealing with the crazy 1134 01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:04,840 Speaker 1: people on the street. Thank you to hard Rock, Bett 1135 01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:07,439 Speaker 1: and Boost. Enjoy the draft, Enjoy the playoffs. Talk to 1136 01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:08,559 Speaker 1: you guys tomorrow. What's right,