1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: We got a good one for you Magic fans. A 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: conversation with President of Basketball Operations Jeff Weltman on this 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: episode of Gjiic Pods Squad Gagic Fans. The Forida Department 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: of Transportation reminds you that fans don't let fans drive drunk. 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 1: If you've been drinking, don't get behind the wheel. Instead, 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: find a sober driver or catch a ride service. Remember, 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: drive sober or get cold over. Have a great night 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: at drive. 9 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 2: Sea wants to talk to Jeff. 10 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: About in regards to this Orlando Magic team, including what 11 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: the players have been up to over the summer, the 12 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: decision to sign Contavious Caldwell Pope and what went into 13 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: him deciding to join the Orlando Magic. Bagic re signed 14 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: a lot of players on their roster. Mo Wagner Gogabatase. 15 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: We'll discuss that and what lies ahead for this Magic 16 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: roster that got a taste of the postseason last year 17 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: and how that could propel them moving forward. It's a 18 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: great conversation, lots of insight with President of Basketball Operations 19 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: Jeff Weltman this edition of Magic Pod Squad. 20 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: Those fawns long enough to Orlando, this is this is 21 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: jenn and Suggs. 22 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 3: This is Paulo man Carroll of the Orlando Magic and 23 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 3: you're listening to the Pod Squad. 24 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: Welcome every one to another episode of Orlando Magic Pod Squad. 25 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: Great to have you with us. Dante Marcatelli, Jeff Turner, 26 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 1: David Steele, Jake Chapman. That's all we could fit in here. 27 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: We would put more in here if we could. 28 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: Good thing. Everybody fits. 29 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: Jeff Wellman, Magic President of Basketball Operations, kind enough to 30 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: join us, and Jeff, it's always great to talk to you. 31 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: Kick off another season of Magic basketball for you. This 32 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: will be number eight here in Orlando. Wow, how about 33 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: out that? What goes through your mind when you hear 34 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: that season eight? 35 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 4: I'm getting old, man, No, no, no, no, It's It's 36 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 4: been a great run here, man. I've had a great 37 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 4: you know experience, you know, with the organization, with the city, 38 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 4: Our families loved it, and you know we've been through 39 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 4: a lot of iterations of the team, you know, first 40 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 4: getting here, kind of hitting the lay of the land, 41 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 4: assessing what it was that we had, kind of trying 42 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 4: to you know, fit that together and take it as 43 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 4: far as we could. Obviously, recalibrating and going in another direction. 44 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 4: And you know, haven't been more excited than I am 45 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 4: as we sit here today going into season eight. 46 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: For me, for us, we get excited. This is the 47 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: start of another season. We get excited. David Steele starts 48 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: answering our calls again, come on, because the games are coming. 49 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: What are your emotions as you get ready for it? 50 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: Do you get as excited as you did when you started? 51 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: What do you think as we start training camp? 52 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I'm excited that David's answering our call. Yeah, 53 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 4: you too, right, Yeah, it's it is an exciting time. No, 54 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 4: you know, hey, this time of year is always exciting, 55 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 4: but I will say it's exciting for every team, you know, 56 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 4: all of the work that you put in over the summer, 57 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 4: all the planning. I think for us, you know, specifically, 58 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 4: because we've been kind of stare stepping and we're at 59 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 4: a place now where it's going to get harder to 60 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 4: do that, you know, and we're a team that, unlike 61 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 4: a lot of the teams that we're competing with, and 62 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 4: we make no mistake like that's what we're competing with, 63 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 4: we have not yet kind of pushed our chips in 64 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 4: you know, so we're still, by and large, you know, 65 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 4: constituted by young players who are still in the process 66 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 4: of growing and understanding how they affect winning with one another. Obviously, 67 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 4: we're excited about the additions this year, but yeah, I 68 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 4: think the whole organization, I think you can feel it 69 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 4: when you walk into the building, has a great sense 70 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,279 Speaker 4: of excitement for the season ahead. 71 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: You know, as you look at where the team is 72 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: right now. 73 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 5: You mentioned that there's been a process that you've been 74 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 5: through some evaluation periods. Are you do you feel like 75 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 5: you're more now beyond the evaluation period or is there 76 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 5: still a certain amount of evaluation that's going on before 77 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 5: you move to that next step. 78 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 4: Honestly, David, in our jobs, I feel like you never 79 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 4: outgrow the evaluation period. It's just the lens through which 80 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 4: we have to say see the whole world. You know. 81 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 4: I will say that it's tough, you know, the league 82 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 4: makes it. It's tough for all of us in the NBA, 83 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 4: and it's really tough for the players because the timetables 84 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 4: in the NBA are set by contract lengths, and so 85 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 4: when we have to when we always say there's a 86 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 4: lot of hard decisions coming at us. That's because you know, 87 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 4: contracts have lived their lives, and when they get to 88 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 4: the end of their lives, decisions must be made. And 89 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 4: the first wave of those decisions come from players who 90 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 4: are just starting to scratch the surface, you know. So 91 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 4: all we try to do is give the players as 92 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 4: much space and nourishment and you know what what I 93 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 4: guess is called player development as possible, to have them 94 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 4: grow into the league the right way, understand what the 95 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 4: league values, what what our team values, and give them 96 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 4: a chance to show who they can be. But you know, 97 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 4: the earlier you have to make these decisions, the more fuzzy, 98 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 4: you know, the the the probably byproducts are going to be. 99 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 4: And so you know, this is this is something that 100 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 4: the whole league is up against, you know, and especially 101 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 4: if you're a young team and you're building through the 102 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 4: draft and through young players. You know, we believe in 103 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 4: our young guys. You know, we haven't really recruited over then, 104 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 4: we haven't done a lot of as I said earlier, 105 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 4: kind of pushing our chips into the middle of the tables, 106 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 4: sorts of deals. So you know, right now we've been 107 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 4: able to stare step because they've been able to stare step, 108 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 4: you know, and when you win forty seven games, you're 109 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 4: eating up a lot, a lot you know, more difficult 110 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 4: space as you go forward. So, you know, we're excited 111 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 4: about this season where where we never stop evaluating and 112 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 4: this is a tough league and they know that, you know, 113 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 4: the players know that, and they know that what we're 114 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 4: evaluating is who drives winning, who drives winning. So you know, 115 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 4: there's a lot to kind of factor into the whole, 116 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 4: you know, wash of what what constitutes and NBA team 117 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,239 Speaker 4: and you know, but but at the end of the day, 118 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 4: the players that affect winning, the players that make each 119 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 4: other better, that make it easier to play with one another, 120 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 4: those are the guys that we gravitate towards. 121 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 5: And Frands you've already taken care of from the twenty 122 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 5: one draft contractually, Jalen Suggs the next name on that 123 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 5: twenty one list. How do you expect for that to 124 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 5: play out that negotiation? 125 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't have any expectations, you know, I 126 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 4: know that Jalen is like an extremely important, you know, 127 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 4: part of what we're doing here. He's an exceptional young talent, 128 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 4: and he's an exceptional young man. And you know, we've 129 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 4: had conversations with his representatives, you know, and and we'll 130 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 4: just see where that goes. Obviously, I'm not going to 131 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 4: really kind of open the door to those discussions other 132 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 4: than to say that, you know, jalen Is is a 133 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 4: really vital, you know, part of our team and he's 134 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 4: been a big part of our success. 135 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 3: Jeff, It's it's interesting when we hear you talk. You've 136 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 3: used words like this is it's horror, it's tough. You know, 137 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 3: You're you're talking about contracts and making it all go together, 138 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 3: the step by step process. I think as fans people listening, 139 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 3: you know, for us, you know, I consider myself a fan. 140 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 3: It's what are we doing this year? But you can't 141 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 3: do that ken Ye talk about the process of how 142 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 3: far out from a timeline you're looking at when you're 143 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 3: when you're building this thing. 144 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 4: All the way out, I can't see that far. I 145 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 4: feel that, you know, we never want to lose sight 146 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 4: of this season. You know, we want to be better 147 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 4: than last year. We want to compete, we want to 148 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 4: we want to win a championship. You know, we also 149 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 4: have to understand that, you know, the things that have 150 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 4: driven us to this point have been the growth of 151 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 4: our young players, and we have to invest ourselves as 152 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 4: deeply as possible to continue that process because that is 153 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 4: what's going to attract other players. You know, there's a 154 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 4: reason that a guy like Cantavia called well Pope wanted 155 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 4: to be here, you know, because he sees the way 156 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 4: our young guys are developing, the way our team is trending. 157 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 4: And I do believe that there are a lot of 158 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 4: players around the league that notice that that that see 159 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 4: what we're doing here, and we have to continue that. 160 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 4: So uh, you know, with the with the nature of 161 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 4: of you know, the CBA, and and you know the 162 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 4: financial compression that's going to really hit the whole league 163 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 4: at some point. You know, the more you kind of 164 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 4: build through the draft and reinvest in your own players, like, 165 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 4: the tighter you get financially, the tougher those decisions get made. 166 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 4: But what really makes them difficult, like I said, is 167 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 4: we have to make in them so early. These guys 168 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 4: are so young, and you know, the earlier you have 169 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 4: to make them, the more room there is for you know, 170 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 4: the the less accurate probably your your data collection can be. 171 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 4: If I can put it that way, and so you know, 172 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 4: we need to give these guys a chance to show 173 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 4: who they are, you know, and as people, as workers, 174 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 4: as teammates, every in every way. So so to answer 175 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 4: your question, we look all the way ahead because our 176 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 4: goal is to win a championship. You know, I want, 177 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 4: I'd love to win one this year, and if we 178 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 4: see that we're trending that way, we'll do everything we can. 179 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 4: But that being said, I feel that, you know, this 180 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 4: is the position that we're in right now, is we 181 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 4: are competing at the highest level. We we do want 182 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 4: to get better and compete for a title right now, 183 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 4: but we'd also we also, as I've said before, I 184 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 4: want to follow our north star and we won't deviate 185 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 4: from that, which is, you know, we have a lot 186 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 4: of young players on this roster who we feel have 187 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 4: a lot of potential and a lot of growth in them, 188 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 4: and we are obligated to them to get them as 189 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 4: far as we can, you know, and give them all 190 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 4: the nourishment that they that we can organizationally. And so 191 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 4: it's trying to do two things, you know, and that's 192 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 4: where I get to it gets a little tricky at times, 193 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 4: you know, It's not it's it's not. 194 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: Uh. 195 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 4: I always say the NBA seldom presents you with an 196 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 4: obvious choice, you know, but this is this is what 197 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 4: we're trying to do. 198 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 2: Jeff. They say progress isn't linear. I say that a lot. 199 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 2: I think I probably heard it from you. 200 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 4: Our analytic guys say that a lot. 201 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, unless you're Jamal Mosley and you're talking about win 202 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 6: totals right right. 203 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 2: But aside from that, like. 204 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 6: Expectations and plus twelve plus thirteen just for you man 205 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 6: to man to watch coach mostly get some of that 206 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 6: recognition Coach of the Year votes to select team. 207 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 2: How gratifying has that been for you? 208 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 4: I think it's it's terrific And I think like that's 209 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 4: emblematic of our organization. 210 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 2: That's why I love it so. 211 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 4: Much, because you know, coach deserves it. I mean, he's 212 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 4: so invested, he's so invested in the team. 213 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 2: He's so the way that we think. 214 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 4: Ahead, you know, years and years and you know, how 215 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 4: how does our team unfold? You know, he's thinking that 216 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 4: way about each of our guys every single day, you know, 217 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 4: and there's just no substitute for that. It's just authentic. 218 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 4: It's genuine and you know, uh, you know, it's the 219 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 4: old expression, but our guys would run through a wall 220 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 4: for him, you know, they know how much he cares. 221 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 4: And he's good. He's a really good coach, you know. 222 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 4: And I think that like our team, if you think 223 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 4: about it, he came here three years ago, and you 224 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 4: talk about the growth. He was a rookie, so you know, 225 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 4: he's getting better and better himself, you know. And and 226 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 4: so I I couldn't you know, ask for anything more, 227 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 4: h to have as as a partner, to go through 228 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 4: this you know, process with and and and to watch 229 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 4: him the way that he treats people, the way that 230 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 4: he invests in people, the way that he gives of 231 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 4: him of his own time. You know, it's so gratifying. 232 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 4: And and again, Jake, it speaks to the way that 233 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 4: we work here. It speaks to who we are and 234 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 4: who we want to know, who we want our players 235 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 4: to know. This is what we're about, you know, and 236 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 4: I believe that they do. 237 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:46,599 Speaker 1: That's such a good question. It's kind of why we 238 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: replaced him with George, you know, it's kind of why 239 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: we kind of why we made that substitution. Sorry, George, 240 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 1: I've kidding kidding. That's going to come back to Bible would. 241 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 2: Have been something about the Matts or something. 242 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 1: Take us through this summer, you say, got yourself up 243 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: so nicely with salary cap flexibility, the ability to add 244 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: a contavious Caldwell Pope who you mentioned. We know the 245 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: numbers we look at. I mean, he's missed twenty four 246 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: games in six years, which is remarkable. Three point shooter. 247 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: What are the things that sold you on KCP? And 248 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: just take us through the decision to bring him on. 249 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 4: You know, KCP is one of those guys who because 250 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 4: he's he doesn't have these gaudy numbers and kind of 251 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 4: you know, a top ten sports center guy every night, 252 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 4: maybe flies a little under the radar, but I can 253 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 4: tell you that, you know, guys around the league in 254 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 4: my position are no, no, a lot about KCP, and 255 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 4: everybody admires him. I know one one GM told me 256 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 4: after we signed him, we're always looking for a guy 257 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 4: like him. You guys got the real one, you know, 258 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 4: And so I think that, you know, KCP, he's about 259 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 4: all the stuff that we talked about. You know, he 260 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 4: just makes guys better. You know, he's he's he's economical, 261 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 4: he's smart, he's every single possession know every night. I 262 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 4: mean already, even even in kind of like open Jim scenarios, 263 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 4: guys are already blown away. Like man, he tries to 264 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 4: get over every screen, even we're just running up and down. 265 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 4: You know, it's just kind of like one of those 266 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 4: guys that knows no other way. Obviously, you know. The 267 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 4: shooting piece is something that we were, you know, like 268 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 4: looking to improve upon this summer, and I think he'll 269 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 4: hopefully add that. If history is any indicator, but who 270 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 4: he is as a person, man CACP was one of 271 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 4: the biggest free agent signings this summer. You haven't heard 272 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 4: him one time talk about now I can spread my wings, 273 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 4: now I can show the league who I am. All 274 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 4: he talks about is I want to show these guys 275 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 4: the importance of defense support. 276 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 2: You know, this is what I do. 277 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 4: You know, the importance of showing up every day. And 278 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 4: so I think he's going to be a great influence 279 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 4: on our team. I think he's going to help us 280 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 4: on the court off the court, and you know, he's 281 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 4: got a hunger and a humility about him that I think, 282 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 4: you know, like I said, a lot of guys in 283 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 4: my position around the league recognize. 284 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 5: Jeff could you pull the kurt back a little bit 285 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 5: with regard to what the players have been doing this summer? 286 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 5: Things have changed in the NBA. When Jeff was playing, 287 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 5: you know, I think the season ended and there were 288 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 5: there was a lot of off time, a lot of downtime, 289 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 5: a lot of golf, which I'm sure there's still some 290 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 5: of that, But how has that changed overtime? And could 291 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 5: you tell us what our guys have been doing to 292 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 5: get ready for training camp? 293 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, because when Jeff played, I don't think pickleball was 294 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 4: a thing. 295 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 5: Whether I don't recall that man, Yeah, I. 296 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 4: Don't think so. So, you know, they they I mean 297 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 4: when you say you know what our guys, I mean, 298 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 4: you know, sixteen guys, they all they've all had their 299 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 4: own summers obviously, you know, you know, go going back 300 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 4: to to to try to qualify for Olympics with his 301 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 4: national team. They didn't make it. Franz and Mo had 302 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 4: their German national team experience, had a great run you 303 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 4: know in the Olympics, and a lot of our other 304 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 4: guys have you know, a lot of our young guys 305 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 4: have been here for the predominance of the summer, and 306 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 4: some guys have been bopping around in and out. Our 307 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 4: coaches and performance staff have done a great job of 308 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 4: just sending guys out. You know, as a matter of fact, 309 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 4: I met with our player development crew yesterday and you know, 310 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 4: they've quantified everything. They measure everything, how many visits we 311 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 4: we've taken what we worked on in those visits, and 312 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 4: we're trying to get to a place where everything is measured. 313 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 4: The players understand what their offseason goals are both for 314 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 4: a team fit and and individually and and so we're 315 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 4: not wasting time over the summers. So, like you said, 316 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 4: summers have changed, you know, like we've we've tried to 317 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 4: get as efficient as we can. But with that, you know, 318 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 4: the foundation of all of that is relationships. You know, 319 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 4: the players have to feel whether they're here or at 320 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 4: home or you know, in another place, even working with 321 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 4: a third party trainer, that they're attached to the team, 322 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 4: that that that we're we got them. And so our 323 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 4: guys have done a great job of attaching to whatever 324 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 4: workout they're doing, and and and and and making it 325 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 4: make sense for how it helps us win this season. 326 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 4: Everything is done what helps us win this season, and 327 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 4: so you know, I so it's a it's a. It's 328 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 4: a big question because it entails like sixteen different guys. 329 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 4: But I know that, you know, our guys have worked 330 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 4: really hard. And I know I can say that with credibility, David, 331 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 4: because our fans have seen it carry over the last 332 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 4: couple of seasons. You know, that doesn't do The improvements 333 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 4: that we've had don't come without a lot of hard 334 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 4: work and. 335 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 5: The importance of that. Those off seasons are you know, 336 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 5: really getting more and more significant, aren't they. 337 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's the work. And it's also honestly, in 338 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 4: this age of you know, social media and the incredible 339 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 4: level of scrutiny and intensity that these young guys are 340 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 4: going through, they need to chill a little bit too, 341 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 4: you know. They need to get away and and and 342 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 4: not think about the magic, be with their families, be 343 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 4: with their buddies, and you know, catch their breath, you know, 344 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 4: because once we we always say like we take our inhale, 345 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 4: you know about now and basically U x hell at 346 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 4: the end of the season, and it's it's it's a lot, 347 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 4: you know, it's a lot that comes at him. And 348 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 4: uh so, so these summers are important in a lot 349 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 4: of ways, you know, you know, and and a lot 350 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 4: of our guys, their bodies are still growing, you know, 351 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 4: and changing, you know, and even to the point where, 352 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 4: you know, one of the guys that's that that has 353 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 4: been around a lot the summer is Jonathan and Jonathan 354 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 4: you know, it's I think our fans will see, you know, 355 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 4: he's he's he's added a lot of weight, you know, 356 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 4: and uh, it's it's it's partially the work that he's 357 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 4: done and the guys as hard a worker as there is, 358 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 4: but he's growing up, you know, and it takes time. 359 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 4: That's kind of like harkening you back to like the 360 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,719 Speaker 4: earlier part of the discussion, you know, doesn't happen like that, 361 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 4: you know. So so we have to you know, ride 362 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 4: that timeline with them and understand, you know, the curve 363 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 4: that they're on. You know, when you talk about like 364 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 4: seeing years ahead. 365 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 3: TeV is interesting because you know, kind of going back 366 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 3: to when I played, you know, a lot of the 367 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 3: players would begin in September and start getting back into 368 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 3: the central Florida area and we we'd find gyms to 369 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 3: play pick up games and things like that. What you 370 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 3: read about now is the players will will congregate, somebody 371 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 3: will set something up by player, and they will congregate 372 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 3: and and have a weekend or a week where they'll 373 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 3: all be together, go to dinner and things. Are we 374 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 3: seeing anything like that with this young group and who 375 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 3: would be kind of leading that for us? 376 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we're seeing a lot of that. You know, 377 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 4: these guys stay so attached. Obviously, you know, you didn't 378 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 4: have Instagram. I don't think no. 379 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 2: Instagram. 380 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. 381 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 3: We don't even actually have cell phones, so I really 382 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 3: didn't see. 383 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: But I would argue he doesn't have a cell phone 384 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 1: still he doesn't. 385 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 3: Know how to way. 386 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 4: You know, our guys stay attached, man, I think you know, 387 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 4: I think there are obviously a lot of ways you 388 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 4: can say attached these days. Our guys are, by NBA standards, 389 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 4: I think, a particularly tight knit group. And so yeah, 390 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 4: they did do a lot of that, you know, on 391 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 4: their own. They also do a lot of their own stuff. 392 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 2: You know. 393 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 4: So you know, the Peel go to Seattle and he's 394 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 4: got his guys he wants to work with. And I 395 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 4: think it's important that our guys recognize, like, man, this 396 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 4: is a guy that played you know, USA basketball. You know, 397 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 4: this last season season before was his draft summer. He 398 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 4: hasn't had a summer with his family in a couple 399 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 4: of years. You know, you think about everything this guy's 400 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 4: been through. So he goes back to Seattle, he gets 401 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 4: his work in. Man, we're sending guys out, We're attaching 402 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 4: to the guys that he's working with, and I think 403 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 4: it's important that those guys, you know, know that even 404 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 4: that we want them to have that time, we want 405 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 4: them to have it, but also they have that awareness 406 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 4: of how they impact the rest of the team. And 407 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 4: so you know, when you talk about like who's setting 408 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 4: things up, you know, I think a lot of our 409 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 4: young guys are starting to step up and grow into that. 410 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: You know. 411 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 4: Fronz and Pee, I think are really feeling, you know, 412 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 4: where this is going and you know, starting to pick 413 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 4: up some of the onus of that. 414 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 5: You know. 415 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 4: But I think they all had great summers, you know, 416 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 4: in their own respects, and a lot of those times 417 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 4: were together, you know, on their own, you know, kind 418 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 4: of like under their own instigation. So I mean, I 419 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 4: love that they do that, and they really care about 420 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 4: each other. It's a very you know, tight ening group. 421 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 4: And the other thing Jeff obviously is like we have 422 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 4: this facility now so you talk about like the home 423 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 4: away from home, and and you know, our young guys, 424 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 4: Anthony jet I mean, you know, Caleb, they lived in here, 425 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 4: They lived in here. They put so much work in 426 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 4: and you know, they really the thing I love about 427 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 4: our guys is they just buy in. You know, they 428 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 4: want to come into the league the right way. You know, 429 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 4: I say, like, you are in this league, man. You 430 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 4: look at like careers of players. You are how you 431 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 4: come into the league. More often than not, you know, 432 00:20:58,240 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 4: if you come in the right way and you learn 433 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 4: and learn what matters and what people are evaluating from you, 434 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 4: it generally puts you in a good place for the 435 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 4: rest of your career, you know. And I think our 436 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 4: guys are really like getting an understanding of that, and 437 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 4: it just goes so far. It allows them to be coached, 438 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 4: It allows them to understand the big picture, you know, 439 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 4: understand like what the next step is, you know, and 440 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 4: you know, those things, those things are so important to 441 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,479 Speaker 4: young players, you know. So I think like they all 442 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 4: had different summers, and you know, they all need to 443 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 4: have different summers because they're all at different stages of 444 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 4: their careers. And you know, but I think collectively they 445 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 4: always stay attached and keep each other up on what's 446 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 4: going on, and you know, so kind of excited to 447 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 4: bring that back and see them all start to filter in. 448 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 4: Now is a really exciting time of year and they 449 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 4: all get to be together for the first time. 450 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 6: Jeff, it's interesting you say that about young players. 451 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 2: I was in Detroit when. 452 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 6: KCP was I think it was a year two through 453 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 6: four in his career, and I want to ask you 454 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 6: about Corey Joseph as well. Both those guys, it seems 455 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 6: like identified things that they were good at, got really 456 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 6: good at it, and it's able to prolong their careers. 457 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 6: What great examples are they for the young core that 458 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 6: we have here, just as far as staying power in 459 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 6: the league. 460 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I was with Corey in Toronto, 461 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 4: and you you want to talk about just a spectacular person. Man. 462 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 4: You know, Corey has like that great mix of kind 463 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 4: of like that that Ontario you know, very kind of 464 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 4: like rule following, like organized like way about him that 465 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 4: I'm familiar with living in Toronto, which is, you know, 466 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 4: great city, and he's also got his Island background and 467 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 4: he's he's always got. 468 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 2: A smile on his face. 469 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 4: You know, he's a very like lighthearted guy and the 470 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 4: experiences that he's had and it's very interesting. I'm sure 471 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 4: you guys will talk to him at some point and 472 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 4: one of the things he'll tell you is his last 473 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 4: stop in Golden State. This is this is a guy 474 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 4: who's in his thirties now gets to Golden State and 475 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 4: has an eye opening experience with how hard Steph Curry 476 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 4: works and it really you know, and and when I 477 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 4: talk to him this summer, you know, before we kind 478 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 4: of brought him up here and started like getting a 479 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 4: look at him and met with him just to see 480 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 4: where he is and everything. You know, he talked, He 481 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 4: talked about that and how it kind of like recalibrated 482 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 4: him and it shows. I mean, it was. 483 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 2: It was amazing. 484 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,239 Speaker 4: Man. When he came up in July, he was in 485 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 4: game shape. I'm like, dude, you're in better shape now 486 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 4: than you were in Toronto. 487 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 2: You know so. 488 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 4: But but I say that as like like the starting point. 489 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 4: But the beauty of Corey is Corey knows when to 490 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 4: let the young guys leave. You know, I know that 491 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 4: our team is in good hands with our vet guys 492 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 4: because they're not trying to impress the coach by being 493 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 4: the loudest guy in the room or act differently when 494 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 4: there's a coach around or something, you know, one of 495 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 4: us around. They're just authentic guys. They're good guys. They 496 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 4: understand what it takes to win, and at this point 497 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 4: in their careers, they just want to help these young 498 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 4: guys and they'll do that. They'll do that by sometimes 499 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 4: this following, you know. And I think that's that's wisdom, 500 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 4: you know, that's smart. 501 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 5: You know. 502 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 4: So so Corey is just a great guy. And Corey 503 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 4: can still play, and Uh, I'm really excited that that 504 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 4: he's going to kind of, you know, be in our 505 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 4: locker room, be around our guys. I think he's going 506 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 4: to be a great influence on them. 507 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: You mentioned Jet and Anthony Black. I think when you 508 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: look back at what Anthony was able to do last year, 509 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: getting thrust into starters minutes at times and contributing the 510 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 1: way he did. You mentioned they've been in the gym 511 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: the entire summer, which is great. Uh, You've got competition 512 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: at every position. It's such a deep team. What what 513 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: are you telling Anthony and Jet and what what are 514 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: you expecting with those two as they try to carve 515 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 1: out minutes. 516 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 4: I think that you know, these are these are talks 517 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 4: that you know, coach Moses having with them daily, and 518 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 4: you know, I think this all folds into like the 519 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 4: same conversation about just understanding your progression. You know, don't 520 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 4: don't sorry guys, don't don't try to get too much 521 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 4: too soon. And you know that that's one of the 522 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 4: hardest things for a young guy to to recognize. And 523 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 4: so you know, when Anthony got thrown into the fire 524 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 4: last year, I thought he acquitted himself. Well you know, 525 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 4: but you know this gets back to like who you 526 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 4: are and the character and the ability to understand, the 527 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 4: ability to buy in, the ability to be coached. 528 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 2: Both of those. 529 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 4: Guys, you know, are tremendous talents, tremendous kids, and man, 530 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 4: they had really good summers. 531 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 2: You know. 532 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 4: They they work their tails off the summer. You know, 533 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 4: they put so much time in every day, every day. 534 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 4: And I look at them and you know, their bodies 535 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 4: are starting to change. But you know, to your earlier question, Jeff, 536 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 4: you know you think about like Jonathan, you know, is 537 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 4: I say, starting to grow into his body now he's 538 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 4: twenty what six twenty seven? I mean, like these guys 539 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 4: are twenty you know, p's twenty one, you know, so 540 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 4: it's like what are they going to look like? And 541 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 4: if you years, you know that that's what we have 542 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 4: to keep asking ourselves. And in the meantime, you know, 543 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 4: as you say, like, well here's here's here's like the 544 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 4: point off in the horizon that I'm looking at. Okay, 545 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 4: Like what do we have to do every step of 546 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 4: the way so that when they get to this point 547 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 4: they're the best they can be And for them to 548 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 4: understand that that's part of this process, you know, uh, 549 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 4: takes a lot of work from our staff and it 550 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 4: takes the right player to be able to get that. 551 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 4: So it's a big part of like when we try 552 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 4: to bring guys in here even throughout the draft process 553 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 4: that you know, can they internalize you know that that 554 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 4: timetable and it's not easy. It's not easy. Like you 555 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 4: get in the season and guys want to play and 556 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 4: they want to show who they are. But you know, ultimately, 557 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 4: like you know, we just like is this helping the team? 558 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 4: Is this helping the team? And you know, our guys, 559 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 4: I think for the right people, they understand that that's 560 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 4: the question that that they need to answer for US 561 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 4: and for any team in this in this league. So yeah, 562 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 4: I think I think those guys both had summers. I think, 563 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 4: you know, they're both really talented. What that means this year, 564 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 4: you know, we'll see. It's like you said, Dante, we 565 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 4: are very deep. 566 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 2: We have depth at every. 567 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 4: Position, you know, and coach is going to be able 568 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 4: to look down that bench and have a lot of 569 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 4: arrows in this quiver and a lot of options and 570 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 4: a lot of different answers for different questions that might 571 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 4: be thrown at them in different games and matchups and circumstances, 572 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 4: and you know what injuries are going to hit. That's 573 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 4: one area where I feel, you know, good about our roster. 574 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 4: But that said, you know it, as I said earlier, 575 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 4: it comes with that kind of like duality of you know, 576 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 4: we want to win now, we want to win a championship, 577 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 4: but our pathway to doing that is to make sure 578 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 4: that we're developing our young players properly. 579 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 5: You mentioned Palo and Frauds. How young they are. Froz 580 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 5: just heared twenty three. I think you said Pallo twenty one. 581 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 5: In the future for those two guys, what makes you 582 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 5: confident knowing them and what they're all about as human 583 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 5: beings that they're going to reach a very very high 584 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 5: potential at the end of their arc. 585 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 4: I feel like those guys are more mature than I am. 586 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 4: And I'm not talking about when I was their age. 587 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 4: I mean, they're they're just they're incredible, man like the 588 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 4: the the level of maturity and the willingness to like 589 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 4: put themselves in difficult situations and get uncomfortable and work 590 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 4: and sacrifice. It's just you just don't see it very 591 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 4: often in guys that age, you know, any walk of life. 592 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 4: And so for them to be able to do that, 593 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 4: you know, honestly, that's what we need to bet on. 594 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,239 Speaker 4: That's the sort of stuff that if the Magic are 595 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 4: going to win a championship, that's the sort of stuff 596 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 4: we need to bet on, you know. And they're not 597 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 4: the only guys, but but but you ask about those 598 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 4: guys specifically, you know, they they they're extremely smart, extremely competitive, 599 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 4: and even as they grow through their own process of 600 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 4: everybody no one's immune from wanting to show who you 601 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 4: are and kind of blow up and be that guy. 602 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 4: You know, But even as they go through this at 603 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 4: the very earliest stage, I mean, they're not even in 604 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 4: their pre primes. Yet you know, even as they go 605 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 4: through at the very earliest stages, you already see this 606 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:23,959 Speaker 4: awareness of is that helping the team win? And you know, ultimately, 607 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 4: you know, you see a lot of great players in 608 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 4: this league kind of get to the middle part of 609 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 4: their careers before that, you know, switch flips and you 610 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 4: can already see it flipping with them, you know, at 611 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 4: ages like you know, twenty one and twenty two, twenty three. 612 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 4: I think Howlo will be uh twenty two in November. 613 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 4: But my point is, like I think the way that 614 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 4: our guys look at kind of you know, the stages 615 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 4: of a career. You know, you know, your your pre 616 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 4: prime is almost like twenty three to twenty five, twenty six, 617 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 4: and they haven't even hit that part of their career yet. 618 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 4: You know, they're you know, so so so for them 619 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 4: to be doing what they're doing, not just you know, 620 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 4: putting up numbers and kind of like you know, garnering 621 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 4: all these accolades, but to understand like what take what 622 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 4: it takes to win, and how they lift up their 623 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 4: teammates and that it's no good if you're not taking 624 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 4: everybody with you. To have that awareness, man, that's Uh, 625 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 4: that's unique. 626 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: Last thing, Jeff, and I want to get your thoughts that. 627 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: Jeff talks about it all the time, and he may 628 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: want to weigh in two, but getting a taste of 629 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,479 Speaker 1: the playoffs, these young guys getting a taste, right, and 630 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: that's we've heard from all of them, seemingly through social 631 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: media sites which Jeff is not on, but they're say 632 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: how much that has fueled them and how much that 633 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: has motivated them the entire summer. A lot of people 634 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: are just smarting jeffs mart to stay off Jeff. But 635 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: what that can do for a guy like Paul. Obviously 636 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: for everybody, but for a guy like Polo, what do 637 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: you think that did making the playoffs? I know coach 638 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: Moseley will say when I'm in January and I'm talking 639 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: about the playoffs are like this. Now they get it, 640 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: they've seen it, they understand how important the games are. 641 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: What does that do to a guy like Polo getting 642 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: that taste? 643 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, Honestly, Dante with particular question, I just want to 644 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 4: expand that because it's not just p it's the whole team. Sure, 645 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 4: and and I feel like, you know, walking through that 646 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 4: locker room after Game seven, I mean it was like 647 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 4: a wrecking ball had just come through there. Man, you know, 648 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 4: tears and eyes. No one wanted to talk. You know, 649 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 4: you could tell right then and there, okay, game on, 650 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 4: you could you could just see it right there. And 651 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 4: I think that's carried through the whole summer. I think 652 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 4: that the only way to gain that kind of you know, 653 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 4: those battle scars, is to go through it, you know, 654 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 4: and especially the nature of the way we went through 655 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 4: it to get to the seventh game, to get a 656 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 4: big lead and then to lose a close game. 657 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 3: You know. 658 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 4: I think that grows people up. It grows it grows 659 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 4: up players. And how how does it impact them? We'll see, 660 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 4: we'll see. I know it's in them and I know that, 661 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 4: like there's still a lot for them to process, and 662 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 4: so they haven't been through. Okay, now we're going to 663 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 4: play after we've been through that experience. It's not like 664 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 4: that happened two or three or four times. It just 665 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 4: happened once. So the first time you never know. So 666 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 4: we'll see how how how they internalize that, how that 667 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 4: hits them immediately. But it's in there and it will 668 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 4: come out at some point. 669 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 2: I love that. 670 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: That's great. I think that fires us all up, and 671 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: I think we can't wait, right, you know. 672 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 5: And Jeff was on a team that made the playoffs 673 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 5: and got knocked out, upset in the first round by Indiana, 674 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 5: and then the next season that team made it to 675 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 5: the NBA Finals. So it you know, it does happen. 676 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 5: It has happened. He's happened here. 677 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 3: Well, well, I was a big part of that. So yeah, 678 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 3: I know why. That's why I was injured and that, 679 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 3: you know, so when I came back, it just changed there. 680 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 5: Your contract, the locker room were exceptionally No. 681 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 3: I know, we want to wrap it up, but if 682 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 3: I'm not, may just so, Jeff, when I go around town, 683 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 3: people stop me all the time. What people around town 684 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 3: And you guys have probably heard this. They love this 685 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 3: team and you've talked about how close they are. It's 686 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 3: so apparent. It's so obvious to fans, the way they 687 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 3: cheer for one another and everything. And I always always 688 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 3: laugh and I tell them, you know, it's like, yeah, 689 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 3: it is very unusual at our level because I've been 690 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 3: there and I know every one of those guys. They 691 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 3: think they should be on the floor and I tell 692 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 3: them and I and you can comment I believe that 693 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 3: what you've talked about the philosophy of this organization and 694 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 3: it comes from the top, and that's hu je f Willman. 695 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 3: That this belief that you know, we're going to do 696 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 3: everything we can if you'll just stay with us to 697 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 3: make sure you're the best player you can be. I 698 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 3: think that's a big part of what you've created here 699 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 3: and why this team is so close And to the 700 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 3: playoff question, I think that because of that closeness and 701 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 3: experiencing that together, not just one guy felt you know anything, 702 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 3: it's all of them together. It's why I get excited 703 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 3: about this crew. 704 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 4: Well, I first of all, I appreciate that I want 705 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,760 Speaker 4: to I want to say I'm not at the top, 706 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 4: but I want to say that that m comes from 707 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 4: the devices and you know, and yeah, obviously you're out 708 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 4: school and then to Alex and then you know, listen, 709 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 4: I was recruited here, you know, and I felt it, 710 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 4: you know, And so I do think it's a part 711 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 4: of our ethos. It's hoped, you know, the magic way. 712 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 4: That's what we want to establish, the magic way. You know, 713 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 4: when you come here, you're part of something bigger than yourself, 714 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 4: and if you're not looking for that don't come uh 715 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 4: you know that said, Man, I so appreciate all of that, Jeff, 716 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 4: but I'll just I'll just finish with this. Man. Everything 717 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 4: that you said is just because we got the right dudes. Man, 718 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 4: It's just because we got the right dudes. They are 719 00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 4: just such good people and I can't tell you how 720 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 4: how deeply we try to get to know them through 721 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 4: the draft process, and you know, the amount of homework 722 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 4: that we do even when we're looking at free agency. 723 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 4: It's just it's so important too. We just can't do 724 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 4: what we're doing without that component, you know. So I'm 725 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 4: really glad that you bring that up and kind of 726 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 4: like maybe that's a great way to like tie it 727 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 4: all together at the end, you know, I really appreciate that. 728 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 4: But it's it's it's really it's at the end of 729 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 4: the day, we everybody in this building, man, like, they 730 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 4: work their butt off and they'd work the right way. 731 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 4: And I always say, the right information has to find 732 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 4: the right person with no ego. But all of that, 733 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 4: it doesn't mean anything without without without the character and 734 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 4: who those who those players are as people, you know, 735 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:42,720 Speaker 4: and that's that's what we're about. 736 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: Well, I love that it's a great way to wrap 737 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 1: it up. I think that's what we all see, that's 738 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,879 Speaker 1: what gets fans so excited about this group that you've 739 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: put together here and we can't wait to get started. 740 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: That'll do it for this addition of Magic Pod Squad 741 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: with Jeff Wellman