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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio of the

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Speaker 1: George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Katty.

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Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Getty and he Armstrong and Getty. You

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Speaker 2: take it for granted, you say, give me French fries.

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Speaker 2: I'll never forget this experience. I always figured somebody stuffs

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Speaker 2: the in with a hand, and I don't like that.

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Speaker 2: And they don't do it that way, that you never

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Speaker 2: touch them. It's really great. But you've been eating a McDonald's.

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Speaker 3: You thought the fries come out of the boiling oil

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Speaker 3: and the workers making that sweet sweet four twenty five

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Speaker 3: an hour just reach in and go.

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Speaker 2: Get with their hands.

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Speaker 3: Well, do you think that's how the burg get flipped?

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Speaker 3: Oh God, someone order ice train.

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Speaker 2: Right? Unfair but funny.

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Speaker 4: No, I seem to allow plastic gloves on and like

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Speaker 4: a little metal thing you take him out of. Actually,

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Speaker 4: I've seen him. You can see him make him the

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Speaker 4: fries right there. It's not like it's a mystery.

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Speaker 5: I don't think Trump stands in line at the count

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Speaker 5: nos do that far.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Trump eats a lot of McDonald's for real, which

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Speaker 4: helps him a lot. I mean, there's nothing, there's no

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Speaker 4: level of certainly not cardiovascularly, it doesn't. There's there's no

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Speaker 4: level of phoniness with him when it comes to like

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Speaker 4: a fast food thing, where there would be with almost

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Speaker 4: any other politician where you'd know they've never been, they've

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Speaker 4: never eat McDonald's in their lives, Whereas you know, there's

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Speaker 4: got tons of pictures of Trump sitting on Air Force

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Speaker 4: one in a suit surrounded by gold opulence, with a

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Speaker 4: big mac and friese. But you're right, he's probably never

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Speaker 4: stood in line in a McDonald's. All right, right, maybe

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Speaker 4: never literally never. Michael, do me a favor. Would you

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Speaker 4: please play me clip number forty six. Now I need

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Speaker 4: to explain.

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Speaker 5: I had as usual, let's do you call it dvring

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Speaker 5: with the YouTube.

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Speaker 2: TV, all the new technology. It's too much.

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Speaker 5: But at the very beginning of my many newses, this

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Speaker 5: happened to be NBC News. Just before the show started,

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Speaker 5: I caught like the last twenty seven seconds of this commercial.

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Speaker 5: The first three seconds that we missed are clearly an

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Speaker 5: old lady saying something about I wish I'd remembered it

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Speaker 5: jumps in like midward she's talking about she depends on

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Speaker 5: social Security.

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Speaker 2: So go ahead and roll at Michael tired.

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Speaker 6: I need that money for groceries and bills. But the

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Speaker 6: way Trump is talking about cutting social security, Wow, it's crazy.

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Speaker 6: Cutting social security is like giving the middle finger to

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Speaker 6: the middle class. Kamala Harris will protect social Security, not

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Speaker 6: cut it.

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Speaker 2: Every thought was responsible for the content of.

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Speaker 4: His add Now where does one start, well, Kamala said

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Speaker 4: the very same thing on stage with Liz Chaney yesterday.

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Speaker 4: That's part of her closing argument is Trump is going

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Speaker 4: to cut social Security.

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Speaker 5: Perhaps you're familiar with the fact that not only has

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Speaker 5: Trump not said a syllable about cutting social Security, he

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Speaker 5: has vowed up and down to not approach it, not

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Speaker 5: even look at it, much less touch it. And in fact,

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Speaker 5: Republicans consider it such a third rail of politics at

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Speaker 5: this point they don't even breathe a word about reforming

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Speaker 5: it so it doesn't go broke. I wish Trump had

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Speaker 5: said something about reforming social security. That ad was for

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Speaker 5: pinocchios and throw in a bonus geppetto that was utter, pure, distilled,

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Speaker 5: weapons grade dishonest and more disinformation, disinformation and malinformation wrapped

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Speaker 5: into a burrito of deceit.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, I think it more importantly to your point

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Speaker 4: is the fact that I mean that is one hundred

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Speaker 4: percent a great example of.

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Speaker 2: I don't know which of those words that are the

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Speaker 2: same thing.

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Speaker 4: You want to use disinformation, So you're putting out disinformation

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Speaker 4: on purpose to mislead people one hundred and eighty degrees

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Speaker 4: from the truth. Yet you're the party that is going

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Speaker 4: to endlessly talk about reigning in free speech and having

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Speaker 4: some committee that determines what should be on the air

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Speaker 4: and all that sort of crap, which will be entirely

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Speaker 4: your side deciding which speed is speech is permitted or not. Folks,

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Speaker 4: if you fight against nothing else in your life, fight

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Speaker 4: against censorship, because that well, as Washington put it to paraphrase,

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Speaker 4: you know, without freedom of speech, may we be led

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Speaker 4: to the slaughter, silent and dumb like sheep. Yeah, and

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Speaker 4: fact checking is a different word for censorship, it seems

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Speaker 4: to be.

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Speaker 2: And so we just got to do away with all that.

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Speaker 4: And the fact that one side gets to makes oh

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Speaker 4: I almost dropped it as bum One side gets to

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Speaker 4: make stuff up but not get called on it, and

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Speaker 4: beyond not get called on it, they get to hold

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Speaker 4: their noses in the air and prints around as if

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Speaker 4: they're the higher than the rest of us when it

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Speaker 4: comes to truth and honesty. Give me a break. The

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Speaker 4: Republicans do it too, all kinds of misedited, misleading stories.

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Speaker 4: But the Republicans aren't the way. Aren't the ones, at

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Speaker 4: least to my knowledge, that are trying to claim that

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Speaker 4: you need to reign in social media's misinformation.

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Speaker 2: So let's add in the.

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Speaker 4: Fact that that old lady trope, which is she's obviously

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Speaker 4: a voiceover actress, is the classic. Anybody who talks about

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Speaker 4: reforming social security phasing in over many years different formulas,

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Speaker 4: is trying to rip the checks out of eighty year

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Speaker 4: old's hands and make them eat dog food.

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Speaker 2: It's just, oh my god.

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Speaker 5: You want to talk about the lowest common denominator political message,

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Speaker 5: and here's here's the eyes.

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Speaker 4: Even the most hardcore fiscal conservative who says we need

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Speaker 4: to deal with this today, if you're already old and

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Speaker 4: getting soci security wouldn't have anything to do with you

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Speaker 4: right now.

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Speaker 5: I get that this is an ad, but I mentioned

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Speaker 5: the burrito of dishonesty or deceit, well, the the tangy

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Speaker 5: salsa of irony.

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Speaker 4: On God, I'm not feeling good today. I'm not liking

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Speaker 4: this can you do different metaphors that aren't like food

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Speaker 4: that would make me feel bad?

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Speaker 2: What are you in the mood for? Like yogurt? Maybe

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Speaker 2: you're something easy to digest than an ice cream. And

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Speaker 2: it was in the chicken soup of.

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Speaker 5: Exactly the parsley on the soup of deceit is better,

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Speaker 5: much better. That led directly into Lion Lester Holt with

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Speaker 5: a series of headlines, each of which was on the campaign,

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Speaker 5: but the two about Trump were.

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Speaker 2: Trump claimed without evidence blah blah blah and elon musk

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Speaker 2: and it may be illegal.

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Speaker 5: Meanwhile, Kamala Harris talked to nice old people and comforted

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Speaker 5: them in their old age and then promised to make

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Speaker 2: And in other news so oh.

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Speaker 4: And so he actually in the newscast used the phrase

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Speaker 4: without evidence, which is used exclusively for Republicans, right right

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Speaker 4: on the heels of this ad that was utterly one

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Speaker 4: hundred and eighty percent one hundred and eighty degrees rather dishonest. Wow, unfreakingly,

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Speaker 4: it's interesting that you took an NBC news because I

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Speaker 4: watched ab ABC News and like the first ten minutes,

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Speaker 4: I just I couldn't believe how incredibly one sided it was.

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Speaker 4: I thought, man, they've gone all in now there were

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Speaker 4: two weeks from election today. This is like it was

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Speaker 4: designed by the Harris campaign to make her look good

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Speaker 4: and Trump look bad. It's that this is a newscast,

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Speaker 4: right right, So moving on to that's a good joint

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Speaker 4: a kid, I can't argue with you, So moving on somewhat.

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Speaker 4: That kid's probably forty now, right, Oh yeah, he's got

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Speaker 4: kids of his own. He's watching Fox News with the

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Speaker 4: volume two high. He's an older fella. At anyway, where

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Speaker 4: were we?

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Speaker 2: Ah?

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Speaker 5: Yes, anybody who knows the show knows that I Joe

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Speaker 5: am fairly Trump skeptical, love a lot of the policies,

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Speaker 5: the judges blah blah blah, and I am extremely cautious

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Speaker 5: about conspiracy theory crap because, much like the posters we

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Speaker 5: were discussing before, the one thing I want to be

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Speaker 5: is right.

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Speaker 2: I would rather be right than happy.

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Speaker 4: Having said that, I'm following a Twitter thread by Will Sharf,

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Speaker 4: who he's worked as an attorney for Trump. He's also

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Speaker 4: he very well thought of Washington, d C. Attorney's worked

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Speaker 4: on two Scotis confirmations. He's a former federal processor. I'm sorry, prosecutor.

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Speaker 4: He's a man of substance.

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Speaker 5: And he tweeted the other day he said, remember November eighteenth,

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty two, was the key day when all four

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Speaker 5: criminal cases against Trump kicked off. Number one, Nathan Wade

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Speaker 5: was at the White House that day for eight hours.

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Speaker 5: You remember Nathan Wade, the lover of Fannie Willis. He

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Speaker 5: was at the White House.

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Speaker 2: He was enjoying some of that sweet sweet Fannie Willis tale.

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Speaker 2: That's what he was doing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, oh boy, and some of the transcript of his

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Speaker 5: testimony because he was grilled in front of a congressional

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Speaker 5: committee about that in a second. That was also the

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Speaker 5: day Jack Smith was appointed the special counsel to dig

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Speaker 5: into the other charges. And Matthew Colangelo quit the DOJ

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Speaker 5: that very day and showed up a few weeks later

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Speaker 2: So this guy was.

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Speaker 4: One of the top couple levels of the DOJ and

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Speaker 4: local prosecutor's office. Now, granted, the Manhattan DA is like

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Speaker 4: remember at the time there was talk about what's Colangelo

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Speaker 4: doing quitting the.

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Speaker 2: DOJ to take that job. That's a weird thing.

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Speaker 5: And he headed up that local prosecution. All of this

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Speaker 5: launched on November eighteenth, twenty twenty two, which I do

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Speaker 5: not think is a coincidence. Then you have this, uh

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Speaker 5: what committee is this in front of?

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Speaker 1: It?

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Speaker 2: Doesn't say that would be helpful.

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Speaker 4: He admitted to multiple meetings with the Biden White House

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Speaker 4: Biden Harris White House doing Fannie Willis's prosecution of Donald

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Speaker 4: Trump in Georgia, but repeatedly claimed I don't recall or

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Speaker 4: I don't remember the details of those meetings, over and

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Speaker 4: over again. So I'm I was asking if you remember,

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Speaker 4: would you have had a paralegal, someone on your team

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Speaker 4: and assistant reach out to schedule this conference with the

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Speaker 2: I don't recall.

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Speaker 4: Okay, do you remember who attended this conference with White

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Speaker 5: I don't recall. Is it safe to assume since you

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Speaker 5: build for the conference with White House Council billible hours,

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Speaker 5: you know that you attended the conference with the White

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Speaker 5: House Council. Yes, okay? Do you remember if it was

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Speaker 5: in person or by telephone? I don't recall. He doesn't recall.

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Speaker 2: Now, that is.

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Speaker 4: That's pretty rich. You don't remember if he was on

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Speaker 4: the phone or in person. I think anybody whose brain

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Speaker 4: works at all would remember that. Well, right, and then

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Speaker 4: they go into yeah, we're pressed for time. All right,

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Speaker 4: I'll move swiftly. He goes into all right, I'll remind you.

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Speaker 4: Here's your billing hours eight hours of two hundred and

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Speaker 4: fifty dollars. It was two thousand dollars. Do you remember

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Speaker 4: an interview with DC or the White House occurring on

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Speaker 4: November eighteenth, twenty twenty two. I don't remember it happening.

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Speaker 4: I know it did because the entry says that it did.

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Speaker 4: Do you remember it occurring on or near the eighteenth?

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Speaker 4: I don't remember it happening, but I do know that

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Speaker 4: it did because the date completed says November eighteenth.

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Speaker 2: I skipped one.

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Speaker 4: Do you have any recollection of what you were referring

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Speaker 4: to or who you were referring to when you said

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Speaker 4: This is a huge Watergate style store. It's bigger than Watergate,

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Speaker 5: You know, there are a lot of folks and the

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Speaker 2: This is what they're talking about.

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Speaker 4: They're not talking about of votes in Georgia's spirit away

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Speaker 2: And they have a point.

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Speaker 4: So travel season is upon us, and they're already trying

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Speaker 4: your hugs. That'd be fun work if you could get it, plice,

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Speaker 2: On the way, can you step up and make up play?

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Speaker 2: That was in Marvin's bread basket couldn't collect it at

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Speaker 4: If you had the over under on Harball goes nuts,

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Speaker 4: They called a like an one of the worst penalties

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Speaker 5: actually have this sign at the airport now. Now this

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Speaker 5: farewells please use the car park. They're making a maximum

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Speaker 2: Long to me.

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Speaker 4: It's three thirty seconds. It's three minutes max hug minutes.

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Speaker 4: If you're hugging somebody for longer than three minutes, I

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Speaker 4: don't know. I don't know what you're doing as one

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Speaker 2: I miss you. I'll miss you too, and it's I

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Speaker 2: can't wait. It's gonna be tough without you. I know,

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Speaker 2: this is so great. It was so good. I love you.

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I saw turned off the stove. What are you doing

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Speaker 2: for three minutes? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: That's that doesn't seem overally restrictive to me. Otherwise you're

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Speaker 4: Emotional farewells are common sights at airports, but travelers leaving

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Speaker 4: hugs in the airport's drop off area, intended to prevent

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Speaker 4: longer than three minutes? That's a really long hug. People

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Speaker 2: Yeah it was a good visit.

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Speaker 4: isn't that better?

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Speaker 5: I don't know that I know anybody who prefers the

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Speaker 2: You know, it's like that last day of vacation.

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Speaker 5: You got a flight at eleven am and you're hanging

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Speaker 4: We said everything. We're gonna say it's gotten as it was,

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Speaker 4: as good as it's gonna get right, yeah right, hold

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Speaker 5: China understands our society almost as well as we do,

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Speaker 2: The hell out of it. Stay with us for that.

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Speaker 4: And President China currently in Russia for the Brick Summit,

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Speaker 2: That's a troubling situation.

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Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty.

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Speaker 2: I think school choice is a good idea, and particularly

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Speaker 7: A fringe issue twenty years ago, school choice is on

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Speaker 4: What's happening here is we want families to control the

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Speaker 4: and that's what we're searching for.

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Speaker 7: Twenty nine states offer school choice programs, ranging from vouchers

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Speaker 4: Interesting. I want to know more about that. A little

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Speaker 4: bit later, we're going to get into minimum wage.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 4: That old topic comes up all the time, especially the

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Speaker 2: It was the leaded political story.

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Speaker 4: And all your big newscasts yesterday as Kamala Harrison Trump

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Speaker 5: Laugenessa Fox News just said seventy percent of Americans, seventy

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Speaker 5: percent are in favor of school choice. Keep that in

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Speaker 5: our nation's public schools. And they're absolutely right about the

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Speaker 5: lacks funding. Taxpayers are handing over more and more of

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Speaker 4: So is the idea that in some states, so a

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to use the local public school. So

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Speaker 4: I want to keep some of that money that I'm

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 5: There are a variety of programs, but they're all more

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Speaker 5: or less reflect that that desire. So we've increased inflation

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Speaker 4: Of course not did they need to get one hundred

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Speaker 5: UH spend about twenty grand per student each year, which

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Speaker 5: higher than average private school tuition. Teachers' unions plan to

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Speaker 5: Quoting now from who wrote this for the National Review,

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Speaker 5: four eighth grade public school students are proficient in math

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Speaker 5: one and four less than a third or proficient in reading,

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Speaker 5: and we are failing miserably. But despite more than doubling

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Speaker 5: inflation adjusted overall funding for student, average teacher salaries have

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 4: So if the most valuable education research and resource in schools,

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Speaker 4: teachers aren't getting the money, who is this is all?

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Speaker 2: We talked about this the other day. It's administrative bloat.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, we talked about the percentage increase in the

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Speaker 4: number of not teachers, not students, other people at the

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Speaker 4: obviously true. Is it just now breaking through to most

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Speaker 5: Well, let's say encounter extremely extremely inconvenient for the lefty

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Speaker 4: Will all the higher ups in lefty media their kids

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Speaker 4: I suppose, would be if you let too many parents

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Speaker 2: That the argument?

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Speaker 5: The government schools would be decimated for money, well, especially

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Speaker 2: Much administrative bloat.

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Speaker 5: But in Chicago, for example, spending is nearly doubled since

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Speaker 5: twenty twelve to about thirty thousand dollars per student. Today,

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Speaker 5: spending for students skyrocketed three and a half times the

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Speaker 5: rate of inflation, whereas reading and mass scores plummeted by

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Speaker 5: sixty three percent and seventy eight percent, respectively.

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Speaker 2: In fact, not a single student was fishing.

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Speaker 4: In math in thirty three government schools in Chicago in

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty two. Not a single kid. So what would

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Speaker 4: most parents do? I wonder if you, if you, if

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Speaker 4: you were able to throw open the doors this much

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Speaker 4: where you just announced, Okay, next year, you you can

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Speaker 4: either send your kid to the local fourth grade public

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Speaker 4: school or you know, we'll cut you check for twenty

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Speaker 4: five thousand dollars, you know, different depending on where you live. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and figure out how to educate your kid on your own.

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Speaker 4: What do you think most people would do?

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Speaker 2: It's an interesting question.

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Speaker 4: Plenty of money to go to a decent pub private school, yes, plenty.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think many people would opt out. It depends

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Speaker 5: on the state of their local schools. When my kids

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Speaker 5: were going to government schools in the town that they

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Speaker 5: grew up in, they were quite good. It was, you know,

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Speaker 5: a reasonably affluent area of a red county in California,

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Speaker 5: and it was pretty good. It's changed since then, but so, yeah,

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Speaker 5: so it depends, but a lot would opt for that.

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Speaker 2: A couple more stats, just very quickly.

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Speaker 5: I mentioned this the other day, but it bears repeating

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Speaker 5: that between twenty and twenty twenty two, this is the

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Speaker 5: modern era, the number of students enrolled in government schools

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Speaker 5: increased by five percent. The number of teachers grew twice

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Speaker 5: as fast, ten percent, which, well, that's explainable because special

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Speaker 5: ed programs became more robust than that sort of thing.

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Speaker 5: And I'm not against more teachers, more teachers doing a

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Speaker 5: good job as a wonderful thing.

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Speaker 4: Smaller teachers, smaller classrooms is great. Sure, Yeah, nobody's against that.

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Speaker 4: But while the students grew in population by five percent,

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Speaker 4: the number of principles and assistant principles grew by forty percent.

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Speaker 4: Now there's no possible way you can explain that not

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Speaker 4: and a chance you can explain that and have it

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Speaker 4: makes sense to me.

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Speaker 5: And dwarfing That number administrative staff increased by ninety five percent,

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Speaker 5: or about nineteen times the rate of student enrollment since

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Speaker 5: the year two.

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Speaker 4: Thousand also impossible to explain other than you're just creating

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Speaker 4: jobs for people to do that aren't needed. So when

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Speaker 4: last we chatted with William Launch and Ess, he mentioned

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Speaker 4: that school choice is on the ballot and seventy percent

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Speaker 4: of Americans are in favor of it.

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Speaker 2: That is a huge majority. Can you roll the next clip?

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Speaker 7: Michael Trump supports school choice, Harris doesn't. Number one, we

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Speaker 7: want school choice, but we have to get out of

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Speaker 7: this Washington thing. Well, Harris promises to strength and education.

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Speaker 7: Her party's platform is consistent with that of the teacher unions.

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Speaker 2: Quote.

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Speaker 7: We oppose the use of private school vouchers, tuition, tax credits, opportunities, scholarships,

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Speaker 7: and other schemes that divert taxpayer funded resources away from

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Speaker 7: public education.

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Speaker 2: Wow, it's a scheme.

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Speaker 4: I gotta believe if you fully explained, even in your

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Speaker 4: like your low income inner city areas, if you explain

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Speaker 4: to people, look, we're going to cut you a check

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Speaker 4: at the beginning of the year for twenty five grand.

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Speaker 4: Here are the local private schools you could send your

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Speaker 4: kid to that are between I don't know ten and

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Speaker 4: twenty thousand dollars a year.

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Speaker 2: Which would you rather do? They would just take that option.

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Speaker 5: And just to make it clear for folks, it's it's

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Speaker 5: not a check exactly, it's a so you have to

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Speaker 5: use it for education.

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Speaker 2: I just wanted to allay people's.

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Speaker 4: Fear of I'm just trying to make the argument clear

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Speaker 4: of what would be because I think they confuse it

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Speaker 4: so much with all the various words for it, that

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Speaker 4: people don't understand that's an option. Sure could be an

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Speaker 4: option in a different structured society.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and the utter egregious failure of America's government schools.

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Speaker 5: And I haven't even gotten into far left neo Marxist indoctrination,

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Speaker 5: which if they were doing like the world's greatest job

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Speaker 5: in teaching to read and write and an arithmetic but

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Speaker 5: indoctrinating your kid to be a Marxist who hates America

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Speaker 5: and hates Wistern civilizations, I'd yank them out anyway, right, No, obviously,

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Speaker 5: if you just cut people a check, there'd be an

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Speaker 5: awful lot of people that would go on vacation and

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Speaker 5: their kid won't go to school at all. But you know,

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Speaker 5: in effect, you get to spend this much money on education, harmy,

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Speaker 5: You want tons of people would choose a different option

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Speaker 5: than their local public school. Sure, get together with four

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Speaker 5: other families and hire the best teacher in the world

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Speaker 5: to run a classroom for your five kids.

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Speaker 2: And it's our for instance, and it's our money, we taxpayers' money,

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Speaker 2: and my kid.

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Speaker 4: Why don't I get to decide exactly? And the teachers' unions,

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Speaker 4: damn them, the big ones make it sound like you're

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Speaker 4: yanking money out.

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Speaker 2: Of public schools or government school You won't.

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Speaker 4: Need it for that kid, because my kid's not gonna

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Speaker 4: be going there, So I'll go ahead and.

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Speaker 2: Keep my money. Yeah, I'm keeping my money.

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Speaker 7: Last clip Paul show growing support for school choice. Close

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Speaker 7: to one million students are currently enrolled in programs nationwide,

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Speaker 7: with taxpayers typically covering half to three quarters of private tuition.

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Speaker 2: I think it would be nice to be able to

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Speaker 2: choose where you go to school somewhat. Public school money

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Speaker 2: should stay in public schools. That's the debate.

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Speaker 7: Choice supporter say public money is their money too, and

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Speaker 7: that states actually spend less when students use a voucher

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Speaker 7: or tax credit than if that child attended a public school.

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Speaker 2: How sure? Opponents say that isn't the point.

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Speaker 7: They argue school choice programs suck resources women already struggling

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Speaker 7: public systems.

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Speaker 4: A bloated, miserable, failing government program. How about you phrase

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Speaker 4: it like that, or how about you just bottom line

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Speaker 4: it to your own kid for less money, then we'll

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Speaker 4: be spent to go there and get a bad result.

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Speaker 2: I can go here and get a better result. VM. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think because of the way human brains work, people

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Speaker 4: have been used to government schools their entire lives. People

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Speaker 4: of our generation certainly, and younger parents. Right now, you

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Speaker 4: got to shake yourself out of the assumption.

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Speaker 2: That that's always been there, it will always be there, It.

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Speaker 4: Is always the best choice. Would you go with government

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Speaker 4: air conditioning service if the results were analogous to government education?

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Speaker 2: Would you go with that?

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Speaker 4: Would you go to a government grocery store if the

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Speaker 4: food was as miserable government?

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Speaker 2: And quality is the education government. I could go through a.

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Speaker 4: List of Yeah, government go and run in all restaurants.

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Speaker 4: Every town has a postave place, a Hamburger place, whatever,

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Speaker 4: run by the government's way. It's always been what's your argument,

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Speaker 4: food's bad, it's overpriced. They've got fifty people in there.

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Speaker 4: We're going to make one burger for some reason. Would

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Speaker 4: you buy a government car or would you prefer that

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Speaker 4: you kept your tax money and took a voucher down

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Speaker 4: to your local dealer and bought a non government car.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if it will happen in my lifetime,

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Speaker 4: because it's going to take a long time to break through,

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Speaker 4: as you've said, But with those poll numbers, I think

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Speaker 4: we're going to reach a point where we decide no,

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Speaker 4: every family's gonna come up with their own way for

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Speaker 4: educating their kid, with a bunch of different options in

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Speaker 4: their town. You know, this church based school, this other

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Speaker 4: private school that leans more toward arts, this private school

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Speaker 4: that leans more towards stem, whatever, this one that's closer

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Speaker 4: to my house. All kinds of different choices that are

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Speaker 4: just have better results and worth repeating Corey Deangelis's headline,

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Speaker 4: the public school system is a jobs program for administrators

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Speaker 4: and teachers who, again, God bless them, they do the fabulous,

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Speaker 4: fabulous works. Some of them government schools are now a

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Speaker 4: jobs program for a union to make itself rich.

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Speaker 2: Have you considered being good at your jobs? And then

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Speaker 2: you have a whole bunch of private.

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Speaker 4: Things, institutions and entities in your town that educate kids,

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Speaker 4: and they'll have so much reason to keep costs down

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Speaker 4: and test scores high so that they can attract more students,

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Speaker 4: whereas your public school apparently has no incentive whatsoever. As

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Speaker 4: you can see in a whole bunch of big cities

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Speaker 4: where nobody's reading at proficiency level or doing MATHI proficiency level,

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Speaker 4: and they just keep on keeping on.

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Speaker 5: And to quote the great Tim Sandifer, or at least

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Speaker 5: reference him, what are they saying at those Chicago schools

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Speaker 5: about their miserable failure.

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Speaker 2: They're saying, we need more money.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we would be more successful if we had more money. Wow,

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Speaker 4: that's that's quite the story, man. That's a burbling change

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Speaker 4: in the way society is structured. Let it burble, man,

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Speaker 4: let it burble. I don't know how long it'll take, man,

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Speaker 4: that's fascinating. If you have any thoughts on that text

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Speaker 4: line four one two nine five kftc.

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Speaker 1: Armstrong, Hey Eddie.

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Speaker 6: Let's go Trump.

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Speaker 7: What's the main reason why you are supporting President Trump,

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Speaker 7: the border.

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Speaker 2: Any message you got for President Trump, go get the win,

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Speaker 2: Go get the win. We got it. Win the election.

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Speaker 2: Come on, I know what I want to happen. President

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Speaker 2: Trump back in office.

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Speaker 7: This is a state that's going to make or break

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Speaker 7: this election.

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling about it?

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Speaker 4: You know what we're doing winning, winning, you know why

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Speaker 4: we're winning policy. So that's Steelers fan in the parking

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Speaker 4: lot at the game the other day that Trump attended.

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Speaker 4: And I'm sure they went out of their way to

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Speaker 4: find a group of people that looked like Trump fans.

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Speaker 4: Maybe they had flags, hats, I don't know, whatever, But

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Speaker 4: Trump got introduced at the game. We didn't play the clip.

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Speaker 4: People started chanting USA, USA when Trump was introduced at

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Speaker 4: the Pittsburgh game and he was around doing various things

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Speaker 4: in a hard hat, helmet and that sort of thing.

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Speaker 4: We're going to talk about masculinity and how it polls

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Speaker 4: among Republicans and Democrats, which fits into this. But did

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Speaker 4: you see the thing? It was a really cool AI

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Speaker 4: picture of Trump. It's Trump's head on a Pittsburgh Steeler body,

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Speaker 4: and it's such a good AI picture. It looks like

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Speaker 4: Trump if he was playing in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: It's really cool, but from like the nineteen seventies heyday,

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Speaker 5: it had that look to me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, And it's a pretty cool picture.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, the funny thing is that Newsweek on their

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Speaker 4: Twitter feed had that picture and had this disclaimer. Donald

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Speaker 4: Trump has shared is what is likely an AI generated

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Speaker 4: image on his truth social account, which showed him as

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Speaker 4: a player for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Thank you, Oh he

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Speaker 4: didn't play for the Steelers with Terry Bradshaw elo. Elon

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Speaker 4: Musk actually retweeted Newsweek's disclaimer with you know, the laughing emoji,

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Speaker 4: like hilarious. Thanks for the pointing out Trump isn't actually

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Speaker 4: currently a member of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Anyway.

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Speaker 4: On the whole masculinity front, a poll finds that the

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Speaker 4: GOP men identify as highly masculine more than Democratic men.

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Speaker 2: Is that a surprised anyone.

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Speaker 4: A recent Pew Research Center poll found that fifty three

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Speaker 4: percent of Republican men consider themselves highly masculine. Fifty three

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Speaker 4: percent compared to twenty nine percent of male Democrats.

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Speaker 2: That's quite a gap. Now.

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Speaker 4: When I first read that, I thought, what I call

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Speaker 4: myself highly masculine and a poll. Well, to get around that,

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Speaker 4: they didn't ask you, are you highly masculine or kind

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Speaker 4: of That would have been I'd feel a little uncomfortable

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Speaker 4: with that question myself, Yeah, because that just I mean,

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Speaker 4: I actually kind of do, but it just seems like

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Speaker 4: kind of a douchey thing to say anyway, But so.

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Speaker 2: They don't do it that way.

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Speaker 4: They have traits and then you click, you know, on

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Speaker 4: a scale of one to five where you are in

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Speaker 4: various traits, and then it puts you in the category

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Speaker 4: of how masculine you see yourself as, which is a

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Speaker 4: much better way to.

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Speaker 2: Do it, And we got to do that on air.

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Speaker 2: That'd be fun.

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Speaker 4: It would be qualities such as confidence, risk taking, assertiveness,

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Speaker 4: physical strength, stuff like that. You rank yourself and then

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Speaker 4: other things such as, you know, do you soft speaking,

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Speaker 4: caring about others, affectionate behavior toward this group or that group,

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Speaker 4: and then you rank yourself and then they spit out

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Speaker 4: where you are on the masculine scale. And again the

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Speaker 4: Republican numbers were fifty three percent highly masculine to twenty

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Speaker 4: nine percent for Democrats, which is interesting and might explain

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Speaker 4: some of the gender gap that's going on where Trump

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Speaker 4: is leading by like seventeen points among men, whereas Kamala

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Speaker 4: Harris is leading by roughly the same number among women.

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Speaker 4: And there's never been a divergence this large strictly along

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Speaker 4: male female in a presidential election before.

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Speaker 5: And it helps explain why the Democrats have nominated hashtag tampon.

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Speaker 2: Trotsky, Tim.

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Speaker 5: Who kicks around like a sitcom dad, ashamed of his maleness.

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Speaker 2: So how much, sir, damn business? How much time I got,

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Speaker 2: Michael my out of time? I got a little less

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Speaker 2: than a minute, Okay, I can get it.

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Speaker 4: So on the positive side for masculinity, that you had

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Speaker 4: people explaining highly masculine to me is a male who's

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Speaker 4: looking to lead in every area, someone who does not

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Speaker 4: accept just getting by, wants to excel at everything he does.

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Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. I like the description of that.

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Speaker 4: You had other people, though, who described it as its

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Speaker 4: traditional toxic masculinity, rooting in the suppression of women and blah.

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Speaker 2: Blah blah that sort of thing.

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Speaker 4: Oh please, A toxic masculinity, what a ste masculine male

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Speaker 4: doesn't need to oppress anybody or belittle or hold down

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Speaker 4: anybody in toxic the point, and toxic masculinity implies that

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Speaker 4: just being traditionally male is toxic somemile, which I find

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Speaker 4: I'd like to punch him in the stomach for seeing that.

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Speaker 2: Whoops, Sorry

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Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty