1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: We're back and it's time to talk conference finals, Yes, yes, yes, 2 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: and new potential rivalries being formed. We're also gonna talk 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: about I Hearts, new show, NBA Finals File, and plenty 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: more about all the things that keep us coming back 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: to the NBA with our guests seven time NBA champion 6 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: Robert Or. I'm Miles Gray, I'm Jack O'Brien, and this 7 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: is my and Jack got mad Boost perfect. I did 8 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: not anticipate having to say that title in front of 9 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: Robert Or. Well, you know here we are tall funding 10 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: games to humiliate yourself until Robert Or comes on the show. Yes, yes, 11 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: so hey. You know usually on podcasts, you know, the 12 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: hoax usually asked questions. Let me start off by asking 13 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: a questions. I just to come up with the name 14 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: man mad Boost. These was I'll tell you right now. 15 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: When I was a kid always reading Slam magazine, there 16 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: was like there was like an ad for an and 17 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: one shirt that you know how the old and one 18 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: logo was like that faceless figure and it was him 19 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: doing like a like like some kind of dunk, but 20 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: underneath it said mad boost Ease. And I remember being like, Mom, 21 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: I need that shirt, and she's like, no, I'm not 22 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: buying that for you. So in my mind that had 23 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: always been a thing that I had always wanted. And 24 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: then so when we were when we were talking about 25 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: names for the show, I was like, if you know, 26 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: because Jack and I we we we come out of 27 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: the nineties and you know, Golden Arab basketball. So I 28 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: was like, we need to touch on the words and 29 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: phrases of that time. So mad boosts became. And then 30 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: I also can jump really high. I got I used 31 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: to be able to get net. So it was, you know, 32 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: it was something people should know about. Yeah, well, it's 33 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: an honor to have you here for the folks listening. 34 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: We are here with somebody who's won titles with the Rockets, 35 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: the Lakers, the Spurs, against seven time champion with more 36 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: rings than any player who did, didn't play for the 37 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: Celtics in the sixties, and host of the NBA Finals 38 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: file Big Shot Bob Robert Ory. Welcome, Welcome, and thank you. 39 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: I told you before we started recording, I owe you 40 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: a debt of gratitude as a lifelong Laker fan in Angelino, 41 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: uh and just in general as a fan of the sport. 42 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: I mean the amount of fantastic memories you've you've created 43 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: for fans. It can't be undermining more so, thank you 44 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: for being thank you, thank you. It's it's fun to 45 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: be here, man. It's always fun to talk to you. 46 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: That her fans of organizations. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, especially when 47 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: I played for Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Like the shirt the 48 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: listeners can't see this, but the shirt I'm wearing it 49 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: says purple Rain in the Purple Rain the Prince film font. 50 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: But R E, I, G N and Robert, You're like, wait, 51 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: what's going on with that shirt? True facts. I used 52 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: to go to the Staples Center and sell these shirts 53 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: outside the Staples Center when I was in high school 54 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: and college, and not many people understood what I was selling. 55 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: So many people like, you got anything with Kobe on it? 56 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: And no, man, it's like a Kobe on the motorcycle. 57 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: Oh well, you know, I didn't have photoshop skills. I 58 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: only found this spot and I was like, hey, this 59 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: is enough for a miniature hustle. So a bad ten 60 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: year old drawing of Kobe on a motorcycle, right, you 61 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: should just use some stick figures, right, exactly right, and 62 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: just had an arrow that says Kobe and they're like, oh, so, okay, 63 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: based on this diagonal line, it is Kobe Bryant. You know, 64 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: just like like the NBA games back in the day. 65 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: You know, you really don't know who the guy was, 66 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: but you do by this number. I don't know who 67 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: that is, exactly, said George. You got in the game, 68 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: in the game exactly because we're playing rockets versus bulls, 69 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: you know on n s. You know. Um, so speaking 70 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,119 Speaker 1: of which, you have a fantastic career in the postseason. 71 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: Now that we're getting into the business end of the postseason, 72 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: the conference finals, I feel like we wanted to just 73 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: kind of go over the teams that are involved and 74 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: just generally, you know, talk a little bit and get 75 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: your perspective on things. Yeah, I mean, I feel like 76 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: Dallas is the big story of the past week. Like 77 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: Luca kind of coming out in that Game seven and 78 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: just um harming people with I mean that that first half, 79 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: the laughter, the joy with which he was extinguishing souls 80 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: both on the Sun's and like in the arena, and 81 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: the ball is gonna be in Lucas mar eight five 82 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,239 Speaker 1: percent of the time. Here's the step up by Luca 83 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: and An goes out there and Luca trains of teeing 84 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: up from free marketable. You could go to Sons like 85 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: this series two games to none. Three God, wow, what 86 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: a start of each other. Those first three i'd a 87 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: minute ago here in the first half, stunning twenty s 88 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: of them front late down golf Johnson free. Oh no, 89 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: they're shutting him up. Oh no, he didn't. But I 90 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: mean a lot of people were surprised by this outcome, Like, 91 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, what do you think the experts were 92 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: missing about Dallas first Phoenix. I think a lot of 93 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: times the experts they get lazy and they always just oh, 94 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: they ranked number one, Okay, let's go with the number 95 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: one team. They had a good season all season, let's 96 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: go with that. But it's it's always about matchups, man. 97 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: I think the biggest key for the marriage was getting 98 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: didn't with it because thinking about it, he kills in 99 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: the first half too. We don't talk about him because 100 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: Luke overshowered him. I think he had with twenty one 101 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 1: points in the first half, and um, you know Luca 102 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: had twenty seven or something like that, but we don't 103 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: talk about Spencer coming up. Once they got Spencer, that 104 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,799 Speaker 1: gave him someone off the off the bench that solidify 105 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: that bench. You know, of course, you know Bronson is 106 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: you know, he has come up and come out and 107 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: he's doing his thing on the court. But it's it's 108 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: it's funny how experts always wanted to just look at 109 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: records instead of looking at match up. And if you 110 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: look at that matchup, who owned Dallas team outside of 111 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: the bridges and he didn't do a very good job 112 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: to guard Luca Lucas just too smart and too slow 113 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: for everybody. I know that sounds funny. I know that 114 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 1: sounds funny, but you know, basketball players are used to 115 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: guys planning at a certain speed. If you don't play 116 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: at that certain speed, it throws you off. That's by 117 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: slow guys and left handed guys killed in the NBA, right, 118 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: because if you're all you're sort of like muscle memory 119 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: is You're used to moving with someone with the ball 120 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: at a certain pace, and when that rhythm is broken up, 121 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a lot of mental adjustments that you 122 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: have to do. Right exactly, he's a walking off speed pitch. Basically, 123 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: how are you gonna follow that one? I think? And 124 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: also to like in a lot of the talk about it, 125 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: you know, coming out of that series, it seems like 126 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: most of the emphasis seems to be like Phoenix collapsed, 127 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: you know, like how did they end up collapsing? And 128 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: but I'm curious to use that the bigger story than 129 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: Luca's dominance or even looking at some of the other 130 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: players that got involved. Or is this maybe to do 131 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: with the fact that someone like you know, like saying 132 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: some of the talking heads maybe got lazy and we're 133 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: all in on Phoenix and now that they lost, now 134 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: they're trying to sort of deconstruct why they were wrong. 135 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: But I think it was a little bit of everything. 136 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: Everybody was going to point to one thing. Dallas played great. 137 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: On the flip side of that, things play off. Um 138 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: think about that, Luca score more points than them by 139 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: myself in the first half. You know, Dallas just came out. 140 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: They didn't shoot, they didn't shoot the bar. Well, um, 141 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: CP three is music because everybody to right spots that 142 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: wasn't happening different bookers. He didn't score bucket in the 143 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: first half. So I mean it was just bad, bad basketball. 144 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: And and that's the thing that I always tell people, 145 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: you need a big sometimes and for me, you know 146 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: what let's just we're not scoring. Let's go inside the eight. 147 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: Let's go inside, you know, at a time. And we're 148 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: gonna see right now, right here, if we go to 149 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: him in the game seven to see who's going to 150 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: the Western Conference, partly he's already to carry us. Then 151 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: he gets that big contract and so now you know, 152 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: you don't use the guy. And and that's the thing 153 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: that I hate about this game today. Bigs that have 154 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: a mismatch, they don't let him go inside and school. 155 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: They'll make them go on the outside, go outside and 156 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: shooting threes. You know, think about brook mo Page just 157 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: to be twenty five point score. But once he said 158 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: I got to shoot some threes, he went down to sixteen, seventeen, fifteen, 159 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: whatever it may be. And it's the stupidest thing. To me. 160 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: Basketball is not about analytics. Basketball is about playing defense 161 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: and getting buckets. If you don't get no buckets, you 162 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: go home like that, like many sons are doing right now. Yeah, 163 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 1: And I just I love when the experts are wrong. 164 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: The experts are because they make the league to me, 165 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: like they make it seem like the playoffs are on 166 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: like rails and the suns, you like, might as well 167 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: pencil them in for the finals. And you know, there's 168 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: just so many factors, like we we talked about a 169 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: lot with the Grizzlies this year that like you know, 170 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 1: heading into the season, nobody had that and they were 171 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: just like a lot of factors coming together around them. Um, 172 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: and there's another example. And I feel like you are 173 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: the perfect person to talk about this with because you 174 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: were always They're always in the right spot, always stepping up, 175 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 1: hitting these shots, like you knew what was about to 176 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: happen before anybody else, like it was already scripted. But yeah, 177 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: I mean like the show is kind of about like 178 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: the kind of difficult to explain and like unexpected things 179 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: that happened in the NBA. And yeah, we're we're super 180 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: excited to have you on. I think were you know, 181 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: but um, it's the point of part is you know 182 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: I'm money so called experts, and I predicted to be 183 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: a match up with Phoenix and Milwaukee. Again, you know, 184 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: injuries come into play, especially with Milwaukee. You know they 185 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: have guys out with injuries in their Phoenix just laid 186 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: an egg and so but it's all about the hot 187 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: team thinking about it. We finished six, made a trade 188 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: during the season, and we were hurt all season. We 189 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: really didn't get a chance to play together the last 190 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: two weeks of the NBA season. You know what, Clyde 191 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: got plans to play with me, dream Mario and Sam 192 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: Cancelle and all these guys. The next thing, you know, 193 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 1: we get hot at the right time. You know that's 194 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: might not might be who Dallas there's right now because 195 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: you've got three guys from Dollars playing awesome. But I 196 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: think one team we're really overlooking though, is is because 197 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: you know, back in the day you used to speak 198 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: the sexy team because they had the Big three, and 199 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: now they just have you know, Jimmy Buckets and the 200 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: rest of the crew. And we're overlooking the Miami Heat. 201 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: You know, they had everybody. When the Miami Heat went 202 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: through a little spell with it was losing, you had 203 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: to dust upon the bench and everybody, all that falling apart. 204 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, the playoffs fixed, they 205 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: fixed everything for a team is already close. You help 206 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: dust stuff like that during the season. You know, sometimes 207 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: you see them, sometimes you don't. And I think Miami 208 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: is a team right now they're looking at this league like, Yo, 209 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: we got everything we need right now, we have three 210 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: guys that can play great defense. You know, we get 211 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 1: called back, we've got four and so that's what they 212 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: need right then. I think this is the perfect opportunity 213 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: when everybody's think it was going to be Milwaukee or 214 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: things to win this thing, that they could slip in 215 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 1: there and get them a title. And I'm rooting for 216 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: Maamor because you know, I've been knowing Jimmy, well listen 217 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: to you a thirteen years old. So something Conjimmy to 218 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: win this thing. So that's that's even though that's not 219 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: the sexy pick because they don't have a Tatum, you know, 220 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 1: they don't have a Luca, they don't have a step 221 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: they don't have those superstar guys. Even though they got 222 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: all stars on the Miami Heat team, that's not the 223 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: sexy picks, you know. I like to Remadi Heat placed. Yeah, 224 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: I mean their momentum going to the postseason. I think 225 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: if you looked at it that we're like, okay, they 226 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: got something going and there. I feel like, you know 227 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: that the little dust up felt like a bit of 228 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: a unifying moment or they were able to turn a 229 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: corner after that. I think a lot of people were speculating, like, oh, 230 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: what's going on over there, But the performances show that that, 231 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: if anything, was a galvanizing force, you know other things. 232 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: I think also, you have to see the critic sposter 233 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 1: hed It's something a lot of coaches wouldn't do. You 234 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: got a guy you playing all this money to, you know, 235 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: and Duncan Robinson who can't guard me, you know anybody, right, Well, yeah, 236 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: that would be hard for him to check me. Yeah, 237 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: you think about it a lot of times. Oh, he's 238 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:21,719 Speaker 1: about three points he's making, but I gotta play and 239 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna go. We're gonna coople us some deepensive presence 240 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: out here, and that's and that's that's huge, man, you 241 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: think about it, that's huge. And then they turn around 242 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: defensively even though you know they're not playing him, but 243 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: they they're playing very well defense. And that's what you 244 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: have to do in the plail, right Jack you references actually, 245 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: but when we were prepping for this show, and Jabari's 246 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: talked about it too, about the culture of the Heat, 247 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: Heat culture like within that team, and I'm curious to 248 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: you from your perspective, what do they have there that 249 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: other teams don't that sort of gives them this edge 250 00:12:52,200 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: because it's clear they're they're a high performing team. Riley. Yeah, Hey, 251 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: you think about pat Riley had to had to go 252 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: against pat Riley when he was with the with the Knicks, 253 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: he had them ready. Now it's just it's it's just 254 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: certain guys the man respect and players just automatically respect 255 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: people that there's probably not a player alive that doesn't 256 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: respect pat Riley, from the way he coached when he 257 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: was in the Showtime Lakers to the way he coached 258 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 1: the Knicks and the way he's coached the Big Three. 259 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: Even though everybody said he didn't coach him, he was 260 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: an integral part in that system down there and the 261 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: culture like you mentioned, So when you you know, it's 262 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: it's certain people around the NBA you can just say 263 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: their names and it's just demand respect. And pat Riley 264 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: is one of those guys. I can't argue with that. 265 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: So Golden State back in the Conference finals, I wanted 266 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: to just talk about with you, particularly Robert or is 267 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: it okay if I just call you Robert? Or every 268 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: time Mr So Game six, Clay is you know has 269 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: been a thing. It was a thing again you know 270 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: Clay showing up putting up thirty and you know it's 271 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: a thing in his mind, it's a thing in his 272 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: opponent's mind. It seems to come true more than should 273 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: be possible when you have everybody on the opposing team 274 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: being like they're about to play, is about to try 275 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: and go off. We didn't make sure this doesn't happen, 276 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: which reminds me of you. You know, the opponent comes 277 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: in knowing your nickname is big Shot Bob Orry, They're 278 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: they're coming out of a time out, and like something 279 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: people underestimate or like kind of I think I even 280 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: misremembered about some of your shots. Is like they were contested, 281 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: like they were heavily contested shot. But again, it felt 282 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: like you knew what was about to happen before anybody else. 283 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: You were just like, oh, this is going in. It 284 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: doesn't like it just needs to get out of my hand. 285 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: But like it is that. I'd just like to hear 286 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: your thoughts on like a thing like game six, play 287 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: like game six is my game, which seems like okay, 288 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: but a lot of things can go a different way, 289 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: or like the last the last minute of a finals 290 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: game is my is my moment. Everybody wants that to 291 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: be their moment, But like, what can you take us 292 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: inside like that mindset of being like somebody who steps 293 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: up at a given at a specific times. It's really 294 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: two parts of that um. The first part is when 295 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: you've known for hidding shots down the streets like that, 296 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: it can haunt you because the guy won't leave you. 297 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: I remember he was when I got you know, I 298 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: moved on to the Spurs who planning the Lakers in 299 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: a position, and Kobe comes out on the court. He 300 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: tells Karmelon, don't leave Rob, And then like I'm standing 301 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: like on the sideline, he comes all the way over 302 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: there to Karmelon, don't leave Robert. I'm like Carl, like 303 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: I got you. Kobe says, it's three times to carve 304 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: alone as I got you. I end up getting the 305 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: shot anyway, I missed it, And after the game, did 306 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: I tell you how to leave? Rob looked up that time. 307 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: But you know it's so people once you get this 308 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: this nickname or you've known for something, they're gonna try 309 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: to shut you down. So they're gonna come at you 310 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: even harder than normal. And you know, for Clay to 311 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: be now holding up to six fingers and letting everybody 312 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: know he's you know, that's the guy that we are. 313 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: They're gonna try to shut him down. They're gonna go 314 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: at and they're gonna try to make him work. But 315 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: it also it's a big ego boots for you. It's 316 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: it's it's amazing how NBA is such a mental thing. 317 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: It's a confidence thing. And so once you get that 318 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: confidence and you believe something, it's gonna happen because the 319 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: mind is such a powerful thing when it comes through 320 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: certain situations. Even from me, it's like, Okay, I knew 321 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: at the end of the gases, Oh, give me the 322 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: ball and make a shot. You have that confidence like, oh, 323 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: you can't do no wrong. I'm gonna make this shot. 324 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: And it's amazing how you can go through a game 325 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, it's just gonna go in. This is 326 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: gonna get go in. But at the end of the 327 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: game like, oh, I know this is going in. It's 328 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: a it's a mental thing, man, it's a it's a 329 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: It's most amazing. Think how powerful the mind is. And 330 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: I think it's played. You know, believe he's he's a 331 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: six the six game guy. It's gonna happen, but it's 332 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 1: gonna be up to the other team to be like, 333 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: you know it, we're starting out from day one, from 334 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: the first minute, and we face guard and we're not 335 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: letting the catch. And then you know, even though I 336 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: missed up the whole game fan deepestly, but as an 337 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: opposing team, you gotta try to shut him down because 338 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: that convdence and most players, especially lead athlete like play 339 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: is incredible, right, and also because it doesn't make sense, 340 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: I feel like the coach is probably less less likely 341 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: to be like, all right, well, we have to like 342 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: build this game plan around not letting Robert Ory's shooting 343 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: the last minute, or we gotta build this it's they say, 344 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: a game six play, So you know, we gotta we 345 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: gotta make sure that like we're because it doesn't fit 346 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: statistically like how people expect things to do. But but 347 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: it's true. That's that's why you talk about analytics. You 348 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: can sew all the analytical bullcrap out the winder, because 349 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it comes down to 350 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: a player's confidence, a player's heart, and its skill set 351 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 1: in the court. Because you know, analytics, like everybody, if 352 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: you know math. You know, three is more than two, 353 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: you know, so, but do you know what's in my 354 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: heart and in my AA? That's right. So Boston Miami 355 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: is an interesting series. So I have this like feeling 356 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: that Miami is gonna win. And it's based on nothing 357 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: other than like just watching the playoffs for the past 358 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 1: like ten years. I keep I keep getting this idea 359 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 1: of like teams with certain players or just certain players. 360 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: When it's like Lebron have a gravitational equilibrium in the playoffs, 361 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: where like Lebron is in the finals. Every you could 362 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: just like pencil that in. You could like get confused 363 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: thinking about every other you know, team that's like playing 364 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: great right now, but Lebron's in the finals. Like when 365 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: you know, like for for a long stretch when he 366 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: was with Cleveland Miami that that was just right until 367 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: he went to one about that, But no, I'm just 368 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 1: saying that just had he had a bad a lot 369 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: of injuries. Yeah, like the guys never got hurt until 370 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: you got two Lakers. Like it's like like the people say, Okay, 371 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: the Lakers have won too much, let's do some things 372 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: so they cannot win, right right? Uh? Philly, Who I 373 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: am a Philly fan, and I feel like Philly embiid. 374 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: Currently the gravitational equilibrium seems to be second round for them. 375 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: That's that's where they're ending up Boston Tatum. So far, 376 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: gravitational equal equilibrium has been conference finals, and Jimmy Butler 377 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: when he's playing for the Heat, feels like they want 378 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 1: to be in the finals. And like this this is 379 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: the ultimate. I just watched basketball and never played it meaningfully. 380 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: Take like, but I'm curious to hear from you how 381 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 1: stupid it is. Um, But like do you know what 382 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: I mean? Like when you when you were in the finals, 383 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: like your team like just was like your gravitational equilibrium 384 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,479 Speaker 1: was you were on the winning team and you were 385 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: hitting big shots. Warriors when they got clan staff, they 386 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,479 Speaker 1: want to be in the finals. Like, I don't know 387 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: that that's the theory that I'm working at. I I 388 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: get what you say. There's just certain teams that seemed 389 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: like the basketball guys with them whatever, they certain players. 390 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: I understand that. And you know, then to think about 391 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: the Lakers and the Boston Celtics were that team for 392 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 1: a long time and then all of a sudden, you know, 393 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,719 Speaker 1: there was a rebellion amongst the loyal guys and they 394 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: made other basketball team. But you know, it boils down 395 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: to consistency. To me, and if you look at the 396 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 1: team that went to the Bubble finals, the Miami Heat 397 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: is pretty much the same team. You look at the 398 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: team that thrives so releve in the Bubble is all 399 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: the teams that are in the finals right now. You know, 400 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,959 Speaker 1: they're all the teams that were that that they've been 401 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: consistently healthy. They had the same guys who know each 402 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: other because even you know, the Phoenix Sundy, even though 403 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: they lost and when the Best Friend, it was a 404 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: team that started merging in the Bubble. And then you 405 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: look at the Miami Heat, it's the same team that 406 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: was in the bubble. Um. It's something that I do 407 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 1: by consistency. And then you look at the Lakers who 408 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: won the championship in the Bubble. The next year, different team, 409 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: next year, different team. You know, you need some continuity 410 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: when it comes to playing together. And it plus coaches. 411 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: You know, when you're a coach in the season starts, 412 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: she's like you scramped her here, Like man, who I 413 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: got on my roster this year? Make the same pink? 414 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: You know, it can get confused and even your teammates like, oh, 415 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go over here and work out with KCP. 416 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 1: Oh what he's not hitting him? Okay, let me walk 417 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: out with um, you know someone else, but he's gone, 418 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: you know, And it's and it's a you learn how 419 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 1: to play well with others. And that's the thing about 420 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: basketball players. You you you get this rapport with teammates. 421 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: You learn how to do things. They're unspoken things you 422 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: have on the board where you can just smile at 423 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: the guy you know you're going back door. You could 424 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: like point at him and like you're gonna set a screen. 425 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 1: You know you're gonna do something different, and you get 426 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 1: that report one another. But now you're trying to do 427 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 1: that with a guy on the fly. He looking at 428 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: you like, oh, I thought you want me to set 429 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: a pink for were like, no, dude, take out right. 430 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 1: And that's why you think about even though how they 431 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: was talking about they need to break up the Celtics 432 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 1: and um, they can't play together. I'm like ds man, 433 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: they could play together, you know, they just need to 434 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: find someone who's gonna play some defense and rebound. And 435 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 1: that's what they got. The guys that day. You know what, 436 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: we're athletic enough. We're telling them we can play defense. 437 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: We can score on the other end, but we need 438 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: to play some defense. And that team has settled down 439 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: and they all take the responsibility upon themselves to play 440 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 1: individual d And the other guy that's not gonna get 441 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: talked about is the fact that he came back to 442 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: the team at the long stent away from the team. 443 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: He went to Philly and he tried to play with him. 444 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: Now you got him back, which is keep you know 445 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about, right, Al Harford. Alford has been 446 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: playing wonderful to me, he is that blue and you 447 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: need a veteran presence like that on that team, right 448 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: and with him and protocols. Now, Horford is you know 449 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: and smart? Being out for Game one one? Is that 450 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: a huge gaping hole in the Celtics roster or do 451 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: you think they'll they'll be industrious enough to kind of 452 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: to find a way to to still put in some 453 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: big performances. Hey, we talk about the basketball guys, right, 454 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: because I'm like the basketball guys here, any torpedo and 455 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 1: play with the Celtics and put him down one. Oh 456 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 1: you know, but you never know, you know, when you 457 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: got a guy like Jason Tatum on your team who 458 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: can golf and fit at any moment, and even Brown, 459 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: you know, so it's it's gonna be still tough. But 460 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: I think collected you if you watch how the Miami 461 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: Heat played defense as a team, how they played it 462 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: on trade when they play Atlanta. I know Trey Is 463 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: this is a great player, and he's a different type 464 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: of player then you know Jason Tatum and Brown, but 465 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,719 Speaker 1: oh my goodness, that defense was stifling. Man. So I 466 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: think the Miami Heat are gonna be ready for it. 467 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: Yeah all right, So if you had to pick each series, 468 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: do you what would you be so kind of to 469 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: graceless with a pick and in each series, I'm taking 470 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 1: the Heat in Dallas, Um, because I'm going with Dallas 471 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: because they're the hot team. Yeah. I just think that 472 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: the Dallas can just hit you at four or five 473 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: different guys who can penetrate in score. And Draymond can't 474 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: guard everybody, and we know Clay is not the defensive 475 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: player he was three years ago because of all the injuries. 476 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: So I think I look at Dallas, you know, coming 477 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: out of that series, and then Miami coming out of 478 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: that series and then we're having a A B matchup. 479 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: What was that when the both with final Dirk first way? Yeah, 480 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: I love that. I love that for the NBA. I 481 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: love that for me and somebody who uh is tortured 482 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: by the Boston Celtics should be on the should be 483 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: on those sixers. But all right, Jason Statum should be 484 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 1: on the Lakers too. A lot of places, yeah, most 485 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: places will take them. All right, let's take a let's 486 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 1: take a quick break, and then we'll come back and 487 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: uh dig in a little bit more on your career, 488 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 1: and we're back listeners. I want you to google something 489 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: right now. Type this into Google. Type in who is 490 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: statistically greatest clutch shooter NBA history? Tell me what comes 491 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: up the top thing. It's not it's not like you 492 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: gotta click through a link. It's like you know when 493 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: Google does the thing where they just like lift a 494 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: piece of text from the thing. They're like, this answer 495 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: only has one question. Uh, the the answer is bottom line. 496 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: Robert Ory in nine game seven's he shot fifty better 497 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 1: from the field eight times his team's record in those 498 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: games seven and two, or he may not have made 499 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: the most clutch shots in NBA history, but he made 500 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: some of the biggest It's not a coincidence he owns 501 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 1: seven rings. Um. They I I went and did some 502 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: I know you're not you were saying throw the analytics out, 503 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: but I do. I just like, we're gonna talk about 504 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: the Devas quote where he was like he's just lucky 505 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: using the right place at the right time. Uh, and 506 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: that's obviously incorrect. Um. But like when you look at 507 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 1: the analytics, there are I think four people, five people 508 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: who you know, you're on the list of the most 509 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 1: clutch players of all time. Like analytically speaking, there are 510 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: five people who shot or better across their career in 511 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: the clutch shock Dirk Duncan, Jordan's and Robert Dory. Like, 512 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 1: that's that's incredible because every you know that those are 513 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 1: hard shots. Again, I can't emphasize enough. We're gonna go 514 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 1: through some of the clips, but these are not open 515 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: shots that you're taking. You just know they're going in. Um. 516 00:26:55,160 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's truly incredible. So that Yeah, I'd 517 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: love to just hear your favorite buzzer beaters like that 518 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: you were involved with, Oh my goodness, you know, it's 519 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: so weird. But I've only really have like one buzzer beating. 520 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: That's what the Lakers you know, to me, buzzer beatings 521 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: or when you go through the net and the buzzer 522 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 1: goes off. You know a lot of my shots. So 523 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: you can think about what I did and said, it 524 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: turn you into about NBA Finals. They had a chance 525 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: to come down and win it. You know, in Portland 526 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: they had a chance to come down and win it. 527 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 1: You know, the Rockets had a chance to come down 528 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: and tied up. It's just a lot. I could go 529 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: on and on, but you know, even if the shot 530 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: I made, nobody talks about. My first big shot I 531 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: made in the NBA was We're planning to stay out 532 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: the Superstids in the playoffs. I hear the shot, We're 533 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: going to overtime. We eventually lose that game. But there's 534 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: shots like that that I've made throughout my career that 535 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: nobody talks about because it's it's you know, we didn't 536 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: actually win it. And you know, for me, I just 537 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: think everybody knows when from the Laker shot, everybody looks 538 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: at that Laker shot and they thought they talked about, 539 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: you know, bloody calling a lucky shot, and but I 540 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: had already hit a couple of threason during the course 541 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: of the game. And the problem is when you play 542 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: with dynamic players like Covid Shock, you might be a 543 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: hot guy, you even getting places, man for you come 544 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: to me, But you know, I was never that type 545 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: of guy. I'm always gonna run with the coaches, won't 546 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: even though sometimes coachers think I'm doing my own thing. 547 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,239 Speaker 1: And yeah, defensively sometimes but not on offense. And then 548 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: but I just you know, sit back and wait for 549 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: you to, you know, to call my number. Hopefully I 550 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: can come to for yourself. But it's it was always 551 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: fun to be in that position, man, But I never 552 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: wanted to be in that position, to be honest with you, 553 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: because I wanted us to be up by twenty where 554 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: I had to have but I have to do that. Yeah, yeah, 555 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: I mean do you talk about defense and like that's 556 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: you know that that is also like one of the 557 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: big reasons you're always on the court at the end 558 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: of the game, Like you are still Alabama's all time 559 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: blocks leader. You're you know, one of the best defenders 560 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: on those teams. So you're out there shutting people down 561 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: enough that they're they're tired. They forget that you're out 562 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: there and about to, you know, extinguish their souls. I'm 563 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: still mad at the NBA for my my second, third, 564 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: and fourth years in the league. I'm still mad at them. 565 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: They never put me on all deefent team. Now, how 566 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: it's gonna be one of the only guys that have 567 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: a hundred blocks and the hundred steals during the course 568 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: of the season and not be on even a third team. 569 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: So I'm still mad inn being for that. They need 570 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: to recognize, you know, I think I was overshowered by 571 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: dreams always being up there as far as being one 572 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: of them. No Defensive Player of the Year. That's a 573 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: bad thing. Man, When you have a guy on your team, 574 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: think about it. When a couple of years where you 575 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: know steps, you know, he's playing with Katie, he's favorite play. 576 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: He couldn't win MVP. You got Kobe playing with Shaq, 577 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: he couln't win a VP. You got Lebron Wain't waiting, 578 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: Chris Boss, those guys playing together, they can't win MVP. 579 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: So it's so it's so it's so hard some time 580 00:29:55,200 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: to be recognized by people when you get overshowered by Superstars, Right, yeah, 581 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: should we go Should we just go through a couple 582 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: of some of these iconic moments, some of the great 583 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: some of the great finals. I think, yeah, we could 584 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: start there. Let's let's start with the SAIDs game three. 585 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: Mm hmm, I think let's go there. Uh, Machine, please 586 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: give us this magic moment shots. So I think that 587 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: put you up for Yeah, but that's so cool, completely 588 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: contested to. But you just know I had no intention 589 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: on passing the ball. This is a series, but I 590 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: had plays ran for me and I was feeling good, 591 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: so I would shoot that thing. And they know a 592 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: little secret right here. People forget that this is the 593 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: year they moved at three point line in Okay. Yeah, 594 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: it was a little bit. It was a little bit 595 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: fosed than the normally would so that so who was 596 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: raining through years that year? And it's another internet effect. 597 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: When this season this year started out, Kenny Smith was 598 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: number one and I was number two for a while 599 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: in three point percentage just going into and neither one 600 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: of us got invite the three point shootout in the NBA. 601 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I'm so mad the NBA for 602 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: a lot, they always wanted to dunk contest. But dude, 603 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: I'm not a dunker. I wanted to shoot threes and 604 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: sure everybody what I could do. I mean, you definitely 605 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: remember that dunk on Rip Hamilton's That's remember that? Yeah, 606 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: I think? Yeah, Game five of the two thousand five finals, 607 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: how about that. Let's bring that one up. I want 608 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: to do like an extended clip because there's an edit 609 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: of like some of your big shots in this game. 610 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: Starting in the third quarter, six seconds left, Tony Parker 611 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: has the ball at the top like at the logo 612 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: Drive tried kicked it out the Robert right to your 613 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: spot bucket or three at no points next bucket corner, 614 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: three wet rocks in another Noble kicked it. He did 615 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: a couple of fall face, a couple of past face. 616 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: Again they didn't know, they didn't know you were about 617 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: to do this to him, so they go for it. 618 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: Oh all right, Genoble goes in MS. You you haven't 619 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: put back one minute forty five seconds ago, another one 620 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: and Cheese paid pick your back out And then so 621 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: I had to thank Bruce. Our time was doing a 622 00:32:55,360 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: bad pad. Yeah the yeah, you take a second to 623 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: gather the ball. This is a bad pass you small fake. 624 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: They're coming after you, and you just drive it in 625 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: and dunk over Red Hamilton on the n Way. That 626 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: is good night, good night. You know it's funny. I 627 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: didn't know what too. After I stow the replay this, 628 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: I post say, Sean Prince wasn't blocking that. I was like, 629 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: what did you? But when you old fire like that, 630 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: you see No, you don't see anything. Yeah, you are 631 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: absolutely on fire right there. You inbound it and they 632 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: double genobli and then you're left open still like super contested. 633 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: But I don't know, you know what it was. It 634 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: was a broken play. When I saw that she go 635 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: for the double, I stayed there. I was supposed to 636 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: leave and cut through. And but when you know, when 637 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: you hot like that, you break plays all the time 638 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: because every if you notice, every one of those shots 639 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: were like contested shots. So unless you know, it wasn't 640 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: a play ran for me. It was me taking upon 641 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: myself yecause I'm feeling good to shoot the rock and 642 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: so I like, man, run me a plate, man, give 643 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: me some buckets. Man, I'm not just a spot up 644 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: shoot that come up with screen to shoot that jake, 645 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: you know, right, plays of Steve Kerk calls those plays 646 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: of insanity right where it's just like nothing's everybody's just 647 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: like scrambling the balls going every which way. But yeah, 648 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 1: that's to to some people like yourself, those are opportunities. 649 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 1: And yeah, I think like you were speaking to about 650 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: the mentality right of how do you stay so consistent 651 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 1: down the stretch like that. It's really interesting to watch 652 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 1: your face because you don't you're not really you're not 653 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: overly gregarious after hitting these shots, like you can tell 654 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: you're you're very stoic, and you seem so focused, like 655 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: even when you're when you could be celebrating, like your 656 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: first instinct is almost just like exhale deeply because you're 657 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: like I knew this would happen. It was sort of 658 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: like the energy and there's something really it's not like 659 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: over like I'm you know, obviously you're gonna you're gonna celebrate, 660 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: but your first reaction is always just it's so intense 661 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: rather than like outwardly happy or expressive. And I think 662 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: that does speak to sort of that mentality that you're 663 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: speaking about. For me, it was all about efficiency of movement, 664 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: you know, doing all that jumping and screaming that takes 665 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: energy out of that. I ain't doing all that, man, 666 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,879 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm trying to save my energy. And it's 667 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: weird when I come off the court. I don't even 668 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: like when I'm feeling good like that. I don't even 669 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 1: don't how people get the high files of the right hand. 670 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: I don't nobody touched it right hand. I'm doing everything 671 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:36,800 Speaker 1: right because because they might burn themselves. It's the weirdest 672 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: thing when you high and some guy comes off the 673 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 1: bench and gives you the hardest stepper, Like, I'm like, 674 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 1: what I need to the feeling in my hand now, 675 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, so I've always given always getting 676 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 1: left hands, man, I never do I never do a 677 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: high five with the right hand. So, but like when 678 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: you when you see that clip, I really don't. I 679 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: don't realize what I did until the end of the game. 680 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: And then you see me at the end of the 681 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: game and I do a little pump fish. I'm like, 682 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 1: just one game five on the road and I was 683 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: on fire, you know right right. I'm just I've just 684 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 1: never been a guy. I might talk a little during 685 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: the game, but I'm not gonna be too animated. You 686 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: might have something I dunk on someone, I might be 687 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: a little animated. But other than that, shooting the three. 688 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: I can never understand now why these guys every time 689 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: they hit the three they want to do some type 690 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 1: of motion like, uh, like I do some type of annex. 691 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, Wow, he's like you should be you 692 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 1: act like that's an anomaly for you to hear the three. 693 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 1: You should be acting like you've done that before, you know. 694 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: I don't understand why, guys, but that's just the way 695 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 1: this game is. Not. Everybody want to be flash and 696 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: have some kind of celebration hit the preak. They should 697 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 1: have one for me. They make it too too, because 698 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 1: of health. That's less often than them three years now. 699 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 1: So give me your celebration you make up too, all right, 700 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: and then we gotta do we gotta do. I mean, 701 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: we got to. This is This is a play that 702 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 1: had me and my dad running out my house and 703 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: into the street Western Conference Finals against the Kings. The 704 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 1: Lakers down to one in the series, down to Kobe's 705 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 1: got it and he takes it to the rack. Um 706 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 1: Mrs Chack gets point blank uh Mrs Mrs the layoup 707 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 1: and then beautiful assist from Vladi diva. Yeah, let's just 708 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 1: let's relive this wonderful moment. Let's Kobe takes it in check. 709 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: Good look at you, Rob but so locked in you're 710 00:37:48,719 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 1: not even you're not even showing teeth against Christie uh 711 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: uh cue that music. Yeah, and that iconic celebration two 712 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: hands behind the back, right, don't put that right hand 713 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: and risks right. You know. The funny thing about that 714 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 1: shot is every time I see it, they get goosepons 715 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: with the best the best view of the shots from 716 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: overhead when you see the whole arena erupt at the 717 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 1: same time, and then you see the ball board Dante 718 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 1: uh streak across the floor and it's it was. It 719 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,359 Speaker 1: was such a fantastic one because when you're growing up 720 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 1: a Laker fan, huge Magic Johnson fan man, and you know, 721 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: watching the Lakers play and watching them back when I was, 722 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: you know, coming out of college and I saw Magic 723 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: pulis like, oh no, they're not gonna win. To get fool, 724 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: you know, so many different moments, and to be able 725 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 1: to do that in a lake of uniform, not just 726 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: in the lake of uniform, but at home in Staples Center, 727 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 1: in front of our fans, because it's not very meaning 728 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: moments as a Laker playing with Kobe Shack you get 729 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 1: to get and the chance your name. But you know, 730 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: for me that that was the best you know, six 731 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 1: months of my life. After hitting that shot, I didn't anything, 732 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 1: I bet yeh, Yeah, it was the best six months 733 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 1: of my life. Man. I mean, you're still good in 734 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 1: l A, I'm sure, but yeah, now just a little bit. Yeah, 735 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 1: because like I said, I've that moment just for me 736 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: on a personal level, right, it was so intense. We 737 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 1: knew what was on the line there and when that 738 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,919 Speaker 1: shot went in, Like again, the appropriate response was either 739 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 1: jump up and down or just run away from the 740 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,879 Speaker 1: TV screen because I can't believe what I just saw. 741 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 1: And I remember my dad and I we both at 742 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: the same time like we have to get out of 743 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 1: here because we just need to scream this out in 744 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 1: the street. And it was funny because I would see 745 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 1: other people in the neighborhood also got out of their 746 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 1: house because they were like you after you hit the shot, 747 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 1: like I gotta run towards the bench whatever that is 748 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,399 Speaker 1: and just be like come on. Everybody was out. Oh yes, 749 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 1: what a like such a poignant moment in memory for me. 750 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:08,240 Speaker 1: So there are very few game winning, actual buzzer beaters 751 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: that changed who the champion was that season like that, 752 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: that shot doesn't go in. The Lakers are down three one, 753 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 1: like you guys go on to win the you know 754 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 1: his thing. People always say, oh, we're down three one, 755 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 1: and I was, I was on the team and the 756 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 1: five he went to the Phoenix Suns. He can't run 757 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 1: back to beat them. And you see what Lebron did, 758 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,359 Speaker 1: like the you know, his Golden State down for he once. 759 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: So when I tell people that, oh, y'all went down 760 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 1: three one, you talk when the Kings, you might not 761 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: want to eight. You can't. Like Rudy T said, it 762 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: bit never undance to make the heart of a champion 763 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,360 Speaker 1: when you got black moment and the big diesel anything, 764 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: It's probable, right even though he went the Momba at 765 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: the time, but you know he was still Kobe Bryant, 766 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 1: right right, it was really great and that I'm just 767 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 1: curious and that and that one shot against the Magic 768 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: right you shot that over Horace Grant, who ended up 769 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: being teammates with and obviously playing with Shack. Did you 770 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 1: was there any ever discussion like once you guys like 771 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 1: after that, did you ever reminisce about that moment at 772 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:10,799 Speaker 1: or just something that you're like, don't. I know that 773 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 1: was rough for you, but hey, we gotta ship together, 774 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,320 Speaker 1: so it's all get There were three guys on the 775 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,840 Speaker 1: team from that magic team that we swept. Let me 776 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: put that out there, like that that we swell in 777 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 1: the finals, Bryan Shawl, So you know, sweeping no guys 778 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,320 Speaker 1: with so much fun. But I used to talk a 779 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 1: little trash and and not then about I said, y'all, 780 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: y'all know what the deal is, y'all see that closer personal. 781 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 1: But I talked too much trash because I didn't want 782 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 1: them to think about that. So when we went into 783 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,439 Speaker 1: the finals that they'd be like, oh man, the last 784 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 1: time was in the here together we got swept by 785 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: Robert always rockets. Oh man. Um. When Vlade said that 786 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,840 Speaker 1: that was a lucky shot, I mean maybe he was 787 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 1: mad that he hits you with one of the greatest 788 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 1: assists of all time as a Laker, But can we 789 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 1: just play that clip because it's one of the great 790 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 1: clapp acts. So this is why they're saying post game, 791 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 1: very hurt. Yeah, very hurt. We get it. This is 792 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,840 Speaker 1: it was a tough one. Ever make a shot, you know, 793 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 1: that's lots of lots of shot. It's just like a 794 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 1: shot that sult. You don't need to have a skill 795 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,720 Speaker 1: sort something. You know, Yeah, in this kind of situation, 796 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:23,240 Speaker 1: just throw it. The thro goes in goes in. Property 797 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 1: was saying that it was basically just a luck shot 798 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,840 Speaker 1: that situation, just have to throw it up. Was it lucker? 799 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,359 Speaker 1: Was there more to it? Window luck shout? I've been 800 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 1: doing that for all my career, so he should he 801 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,320 Speaker 1: should know he better read uh, reading paper or something. 802 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 1: Read a paper or something. I love the confidence, and 803 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 1: that's again the confidence. Funny story behind that. You know, 804 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 1: at the time, I was mad at ESPN because they 805 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 1: had wrote an article about someone. I don't remember the 806 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 1: exact details, but I've a I've always been a big complonent. 807 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 1: Any time there's something bad that happens, happens with an athlete, 808 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 1: you want to post it all over your show. But 809 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 1: in time, something great off the court happens. You never 810 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 1: talked about that. So I was I was mad about something. 811 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,320 Speaker 1: So that's why I kind of paused, like that you 812 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 1: should watch ESPN or something. But I said, that's why 813 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 1: I said read the paper because I didn't want to 814 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 1: get any love. So it got you back then, but 815 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 1: it was funny. But that's why I said, read the paper. 816 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 1: And that was like that proper was literally the last 817 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 1: next to Parker last year, the next to last year 818 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: when papers are we're in print because that's everything with 819 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 1: digital that makes it a classic line, that makes it 820 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 1: And I like that you didn't fumble that clap back 821 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 1: is that you were very uh intentionally saying, well, I'm 822 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 1: not gonna show you be in love or like I'm 823 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 1: not gonna show this network love. Uh read a paper. 824 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 1: There we go, got it, double double burn. Alright, let's 825 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 1: take a quick break, we'll come back. We'll hit you 826 00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 1: with a couple of rapid fire questions and we're back, Robert. 827 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 1: We want to do something fun with you, just to 828 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,320 Speaker 1: just some you know, a round of rapid fire questions. 829 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 1: Yeah it's not a quiz like that. Yeah yeah, we're 830 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 1: not gonna be like what's the square wood nine? Uh no, 831 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 1: just these are just your opinion, your memories. So but 832 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,360 Speaker 1: don't think about it too much. There there's no wrong answers, 833 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 1: just the honest one that comes to you first. So Jack, 834 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,880 Speaker 1: you want to started off, and then we'll be alternating up. 835 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 1: First player you hated guarding the most Okay, favorite town 836 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 1: to eat, favorite town to eat in when you're on 837 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 1: the road, Miami, favorite player as a kid, Magic, favorite 838 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:59,360 Speaker 1: teammate when you're at Alabama. Me. You know some people 839 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:00,880 Speaker 1: I gotta get. People are gonna say, why are you 840 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 1: say spree? Why do you say day? But you know what, 841 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. Keep asking keep that. Okay, favorite 842 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 1: teammate while you were in the league, So I'm to sale. Okay, 843 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,799 Speaker 1: who's your favorite artist to listen to before a game 844 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,839 Speaker 1: when you get into the zone? Chuck? The public game? 845 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 1: Favorite title run ninety five? But let's kind of trick 846 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,760 Speaker 1: question because ninety five and two thousand one, but ninety 847 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,840 Speaker 1: five nine two thousand one. They're tied because one no 848 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 1: home court advantage of ninety five and two thousand and one. Okay, 849 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for protecting my Laker heart on that. Uh. 850 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 1: Who are your top three NBA all time Magic Doll, 851 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 1: my Neque, m J MHM best coach in NBA history, 852 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 1: they coached mea just who I would love to play for? Whatnot? 853 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 1: Just in your opinion? Of who the best coaches in 854 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 1: NBA history? Either way, That's that's a hard question because 855 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,400 Speaker 1: you know, I would love to play for Don Nelson 856 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 1: because I see what he did s free Will and 857 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 1: how good he made that team. And I've played for 858 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 1: Field and played for Pop to two great coaches, but 859 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 1: only one of them man he plays and that was 860 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 1: really t So do a selfish side, I'm gonna take 861 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 1: through who is the best coach you ever played under? 862 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,319 Speaker 1: I mean from from when you were a kid up 863 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,759 Speaker 1: until the NBA. Is there anybody you that you hold 864 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,719 Speaker 1: a special place and for your heart of coach Richard Robinson, 865 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 1: who was my high school coach. You know, he he 866 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 1: helped me become a man man because when in high 867 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 1: school you can be a little bit childish. But he 868 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 1: helped me. You know, he made me mature, He made 869 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 1: me show discipline. So Richard Robinson my high school coach. Alright, 870 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,879 Speaker 1: one player who's played since you retired, who you wish 871 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 1: you could have played with? Well, see see that's kind 872 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 1: of a hard Chris, because I was gonna say Lebron, 873 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,160 Speaker 1: But I think I would have loved to have played 874 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 1: with Jimmy Butler. I think he and I had the 875 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,839 Speaker 1: same type of attitude him. You know, he put out 876 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 1: eamates before us, and he played a good defense, So 877 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,759 Speaker 1: I would say Jimmy Butler, all right. And finally, one 878 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 1: player you wish you could have competed against Larry okay, 879 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,800 Speaker 1: Larry Bird, because you know, growing up, I played against 880 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 1: Scotty who I love, Magic who I love, Dominique who 881 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,759 Speaker 1: I love, you know, and the one guy that I 882 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,799 Speaker 1: didn't get to go up against, you know, because you 883 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 1: you judge yourself on how you played him, because larder Berg. 884 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 1: So Larry Bird is the guy wanted to play, but 885 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,440 Speaker 1: he his last year was my first year, and he 886 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 1: didn't play his last or due to a back injury, 887 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,000 Speaker 1: right right, And is there anything specifically that in your 888 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,480 Speaker 1: mind You're like, I really want to test my gangster 889 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,920 Speaker 1: against this dimension of his game. But you know, you 890 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,320 Speaker 1: hear the rumors and you see it how much he 891 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 1: talked trash, and I just wanted to see what he 892 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:53,480 Speaker 1: said against some young brash guy from Alabama trying to 893 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,640 Speaker 1: guard this legend of Larry legends and this just to 894 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 1: see how if I can help my own. You know, 895 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 1: he probably gave me ten in thirty who knows, but 896 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,320 Speaker 1: I just wanted to, you know, rape myself versus a 897 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,440 Speaker 1: great one. And that's how I always wanted to, you know, 898 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 1: play this game. Rate myself a great I already retired 899 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,960 Speaker 1: because he saw you coming. I saw you heard, he 900 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 1: saw you enter the league and retired. Back ganger who's capping? 901 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 1: He was like, oh my back. You know he probably 902 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,640 Speaker 1: start this six nine guy athletic can gut anybody anytime. 903 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,320 Speaker 1: You know, I won't. I won't doubt that he partself. 904 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:28,320 Speaker 1: I gotta hang him up. He can play and defend 905 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 1: against the three and the four, and he can shoot. 906 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 1: Oh no, just jokes, Larry, just joke, Clary jokes. Of course. 907 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 1: Of course, this has been amazing. Thank you so much. 908 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 1: We're so grateful that you you took the time to 909 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,719 Speaker 1: talk to us. You talked about finals files a little bit. 910 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,960 Speaker 1: NBA kind of file is a great project you can 911 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:56,080 Speaker 1: find on I Heart most of your podcasts. It's with 912 00:48:56,239 --> 00:49:00,440 Speaker 1: me and Jabari. Jabari, great host man. He's one of 913 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 1: the best guys, great boys. You know, nic shining ball head. 914 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes I had to women glasses when I'm 915 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,960 Speaker 1: doing it because that ball head so bright. But you know, 916 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 1: it's so fun, man. We do a deep dive into 917 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,359 Speaker 1: the greatest NBA Finals and it's fun to talk about 918 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,759 Speaker 1: like you guys did. Now you get to show some 919 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:19,920 Speaker 1: of the clips that we you know, we've seen some 920 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 1: of the you know, here's some of the clips, and 921 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:25,319 Speaker 1: just relive those magic moments. Man, And you think about this. 922 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 1: You'll watch a game and he's like, Okay, that was 923 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,799 Speaker 1: a good game. But when you watch the whole you know, 924 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,880 Speaker 1: seven games series or six games series, and you constantly 925 00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,759 Speaker 1: watching the guys and breaking it down from a you know, 926 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,000 Speaker 1: analytical standpoint, it is it is so fun to see 927 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,040 Speaker 1: how great these guys was and you know, the how 928 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,799 Speaker 1: well they played together, and it's just fun. Man. You know, 929 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,320 Speaker 1: the hardest games are the ones I played it because 930 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 1: I'm very critical with myself, so I had to make 931 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,279 Speaker 1: sure I don't talk bad about myself on the show. 932 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 1: I mean, that shouldn't be too hard. You had at 933 00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:02,600 Speaker 1: the time that you retired te percent of all finals wins, 934 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:11,920 Speaker 1: Steve Kerr, I mean, yeah, that's wild man. For ten 935 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,239 Speaker 1: years straight, Steve Kerr and I were the only one 936 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:19,680 Speaker 1: winning championships. It was like, which one's gonna do it 937 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:23,960 Speaker 1: this year? And you think that he was thinking, let's 938 00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 1: get one of these guys on our team, the Guaranteers 939 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 1: to win. It's so funny. My last year in the league, 940 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,560 Speaker 1: I have you know, I was I wasn't going to 941 00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,440 Speaker 1: go back to the Spurs because my contract was up. 942 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:34,920 Speaker 1: I've seen it. I want to play one more year. 943 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,640 Speaker 1: I called. I looked around the league and I was like, Orlando, 944 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,800 Speaker 1: I said, I called up Orlando. I said, okay, because 945 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,560 Speaker 1: I was doing that most so for my kids can 946 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:47,040 Speaker 1: go down to Florida. You no no state tax from sunshine. 947 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,319 Speaker 1: You know. I got Disney right there, and I was 948 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,560 Speaker 1: trying to be you know, play it that way. Oh, 949 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,920 Speaker 1: we don't need you. So they end up going to 950 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,759 Speaker 1: the finals, and I started, I can't remembering the GM's name. 951 00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 1: Then God hearing me, and so when I saw him, 952 00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:00,920 Speaker 1: because I was doing something for the NBA at the game, 953 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,200 Speaker 1: I started, welcome to us, to see if you have 954 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:05,839 Speaker 1: me and you team you the one you know I'll 955 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:13,600 Speaker 1: win every other year. Look it up, look it up 956 00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,040 Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, I said, oh yeah, And by the way, 957 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:21,359 Speaker 1: I don't lose in the final, Steven baby, Yeah, check 958 00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 1: the books, check the paper. All right, thank you? So much, Robert, 959 00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:31,239 Speaker 1: Thanks guys, it was fun. Absolutely check back in with 960 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:35,400 Speaker 1: us next week. We'll obviously continue further into the conference 961 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,400 Speaker 1: finals and until then, thanks for listening to Jack or no, 962 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,040 Speaker 1: thanks for listening to Miles and Jack got mad boost 963 00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,359 Speaker 1: these and we'll see you next time. Yeah, I mean, 964 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,480 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie next week. I'm still gonna be 965 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:49,799 Speaker 1: talking about this conversation. Uh if you remember when Robert 966 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,760 Speaker 1: where he said this, I've been texting all my homies 967 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 1: and I said, Robert already liked my purple rain shirt. 968 00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:58,960 Speaker 1: That's where I'm at. So thank you so much. We'll 969 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:12,719 Speaker 1: see you next time. Hey, m