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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate it. Buffalo twenty eight Kansas City twenty one.

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<v Speaker 3>I looked at this number today. To me, this was

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<v Speaker 3>this was really the game is that Mahomes was uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 3>and Josh Allen was really comfortable. He was sacked three times,

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<v Speaker 3>hit fifteen times. And when Mahomes John doesn't trust his

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<v Speaker 3>offensive line, it changes, it changes the way he plays,

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<v Speaker 3>He presses, takes more risks. And I thought the game

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<v Speaker 3>really came down to that is that. I just thought

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<v Speaker 3>Josh was really comfortable and Patrick wasn't.

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<v Speaker 4>I just know this, if the Bills can find a

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<v Speaker 4>way to play like they do against the Kansas City

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<v Speaker 4>Chiefs in the regular season in the postseason, they will

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<v Speaker 4>win the Super Bowl because they thoroughly outplayed him today,

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<v Speaker 4>outgained to by one hundred yards. We're up double digits

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<v Speaker 4>in the fourth quarter. I mean it took a fourth

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<v Speaker 4>and seventeen, which well, only Andy Reid would have a

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<v Speaker 4>fourth and seventeen play that would come wide open. But listen,

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<v Speaker 4>that Bills team that we just saw. That team can

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<v Speaker 4>win the Super Bowl. Yeah, but we see them on

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<v Speaker 4>a weekly basis now look as good on defense, the

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<v Speaker 4>pass rush isn't always there. Joey Bosa looked like, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know his third year with the Chargers today, so

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know where that version of the Bills is

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<v Speaker 4>always because they make a ton of plays when they

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<v Speaker 4>have to against the Ravens and in the regular season.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, Colin, this is now kind of a theme

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<v Speaker 4>obviously at home and this is why I've been I've

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<v Speaker 4>said from the jump, getting a home field for the

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<v Speaker 4>Bills is really big, and today was a bigger game

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<v Speaker 4>for them because at the end of the day, like

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<v Speaker 4>Chiefs have already won Super Bowl, so I think they

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<v Speaker 4>will eventually win another one. But if they get bounced

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<v Speaker 4>in the first or second round one year, whatever. This

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<v Speaker 4>year for the Bills, you just have to hold serve.

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<v Speaker 4>With the Patriots, they have an easier schedule than you

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<v Speaker 4>they keep taking care of business. If they would have

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<v Speaker 4>lost today, they would have been out of one game

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<v Speaker 4>Deficis and they've already lost to them, So there was

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of pressure. And in fairness, I thought they

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<v Speaker 4>answered the bell. Beside a couple of plays in the

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<v Speaker 4>second half, right, they were really good going.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, And the other thing that's I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>Bosa is healthy. He's thirty, Greg Russo is twenty five.

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<v Speaker 3>Aj Epeniza is twenty seven. These guys are in their

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<v Speaker 3>athletic prime and they've drafted pretty well in the back end.

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<v Speaker 3>So Denver is now on a heater. Denver's nine and

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<v Speaker 3>two and now plays Kansas City next, and Kansas City

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<v Speaker 3>is five and four, and so now Joe all got

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<v Speaker 3>banged up today, but the Chargers are six and three.

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<v Speaker 3>So you get into a really weird situation here where

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<v Speaker 3>if Denver beats, I mean, it was the worst thing

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<v Speaker 3>possible for Denver. I don't know what the line is,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm taking Kansas City against Denver when Kansas City loses.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think the thing that jumped out to me

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<v Speaker 3>today was, you know, we've talked a lot about the

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<v Speaker 3>defense at Oliver didn't play, but we talk a lot

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<v Speaker 3>about Buffalo's defense all year. So much of defense is

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<v Speaker 3>effort right. Like I was talking to somebody the other

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<v Speaker 3>day about this, is that you know, offensive players on

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<v Speaker 3>a high school they'll follow a coach. Offensive players want

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<v Speaker 3>the coach.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Defensive players, you know they high schoolers, they want to

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<v Speaker 3>go to big schools, right they most defensive coaches they

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<v Speaker 3>see is the same thing. Defensive players are about wrecking things.

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<v Speaker 3>And I do think when you take that Buffalo defensive

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<v Speaker 3>front and they play Mahomes, they play differently. It's just

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<v Speaker 3>a different It's different than playing Michael Pennix. And I've

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<v Speaker 3>always felt offense is about choreography. But I felt like

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<v Speaker 3>I felt like the defensive front today for Buffalo knew

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<v Speaker 3>the red light was on. That's what it felt like

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<v Speaker 3>to me. It felt like they played with way more energy.

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<v Speaker 3>Many of the same players played above what they've been

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<v Speaker 3>playing at all year. I just I feel like defensive

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<v Speaker 3>players can play at a different intensity level depending on

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<v Speaker 3>the opponent. Ten times they've played five and five, and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I thought that was the difference. I

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<v Speaker 3>thought the defensive line for Buffalo was great.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, can I piggyback off what you just said about

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<v Speaker 4>the defense, I think, and I've said this now for

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<v Speaker 4>a while that when you look at the NFL and

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<v Speaker 4>they've tried to clean up the game, right, so now

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<v Speaker 4>when you watch, you know, guys are much safer. They

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<v Speaker 4>take a very conscious effort to officiate dirty calls. And

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<v Speaker 4>I think most guys, now, if you're twenty five, you

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<v Speaker 4>have gone through college in the NFL being taught how

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<v Speaker 4>to hit right and not use your helmet. But I

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<v Speaker 4>do think if we miked up defensive coordinators, like if

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<v Speaker 4>you got the defensive meeting room on Saturday night and

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<v Speaker 4>before the team came out this week and probably all week,

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<v Speaker 4>fans would be uncomfortable what's being said in there, especially

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<v Speaker 4>from the Buffalo side, And you could go around the league.

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<v Speaker 4>I bet if you got Brian Flores micd up this

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<v Speaker 4>week on Wednesday night, on Saturday night, it would make

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of people uncomfortable with what they want. I

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<v Speaker 4>enjoy that, and I know what I'm on, but I

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<v Speaker 4>still think that the way they talk and what they

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<v Speaker 4>preach is still has similarities going back to the eighties

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<v Speaker 4>and the nineties. Yeah, and you know, Buffalo's front is

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<v Speaker 4>really talented and they just lost at Oliver the first

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<v Speaker 4>round draft pick from Kentucky. I mean Patrick Mahomes. Listen,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm with you. His offensive line was at tatters. You

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<v Speaker 4>can't throw that interception late in the game because they

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<v Speaker 4>never got the ball back, you know, essentially, right, So

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<v Speaker 4>it's like that was killer and they just need some

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<v Speaker 4>more impact plays on defense. We'll talk about the Steelers, well,

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<v Speaker 4>what happened today. Their high priced guys, especially upfront, made

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<v Speaker 4>huge play huge. So when you're playing in playoff games,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure we'll talk about the baseball game too. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>you just need a random guy to make a big

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<v Speaker 4>ass play, whether that's a tip ball for a pick,

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<v Speaker 4>whether that's a fumble, and obviously your stars to make

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<v Speaker 4>big plays. So you know, Buffalo in coach Reid and

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<v Speaker 4>all the Bret Veetz, all those guys will tell you

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<v Speaker 4>Josh Allen is the best player they play, Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 4>has been for now five years. I mean he because

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<v Speaker 4>not only he matches his play against the other randoms

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<v Speaker 4>against them, and he's one of the rare ones, if

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<v Speaker 4>not the only guy who has consistently done that now

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<v Speaker 4>for four or five years.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they were sixty percent on third down. They had

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred forty yards rushing. I thought, you know, and

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was going to be high scoring, and

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<v Speaker 3>I said, I'll take Kansas City. But when these two

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<v Speaker 3>teams play, you know, you never count Kansas City out.

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<v Speaker 3>But I felt like today this was this was Buffalo's

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<v Speaker 3>day because Buffalo had lost at home to New England.

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<v Speaker 3>So again I watched that game. The intensity felt different today.

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<v Speaker 3>It feels different in the stadium when Kansas City plays there,

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<v Speaker 3>you get NaNs, get Romo. It just feels different. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Josh Allen, they said this during the game,

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<v Speaker 3>seventy nine rushing touchdowns in eight years.

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus, that's just insane.

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<v Speaker 3>He is one of the things when I watch, and

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<v Speaker 3>I feel this way to a lesser degree with Lamar Jackson,

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<v Speaker 3>but I do think there are certain things I guess

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<v Speaker 3>I would say this. I feel generally Kansas City has

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<v Speaker 3>slightly better personnel than Buffalo, But right now, does Buffalo

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<v Speaker 3>have the right ingredients star running back Mahomes doesn't better

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<v Speaker 3>defensive front with more high level guys. Right Chris Jones

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<v Speaker 3>has not had a great year. So we know Buffalo

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<v Speaker 3>and Kansas City have good gms and great quarterbacks and

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<v Speaker 3>We know Andy's very clever in these games, but a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of times John it's units. You know, the two

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<v Speaker 3>times Mahomes has been blown out in Super Bowls, he

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<v Speaker 3>had a bad old line. The old lines are both fine.

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<v Speaker 3>Although Kansas City's got overwhelmed today, but that defensive front

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<v Speaker 3>right now for Buffalo, it reminds me. It just there's

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<v Speaker 3>just a lot of guys. I feel like there's just

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of guys that play. I must throw Milano

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<v Speaker 3>in there when he's healthy. I mean, Josh is only

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<v Speaker 3>twenty nine. He's going to have six more cracks at

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<v Speaker 3>the super Bowl minimum. But I felt today watching him,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, that's they've got it. They've had it before.

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<v Speaker 3>But Cook playing at this level, Buffalo's got all the ingredients.

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<v Speaker 4>I would say this too. If Kincaid is going to

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<v Speaker 4>look like that, SHA's what they drafted him high, to

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<v Speaker 4>look like a Laporta, to look like a Tucker Craft, Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>a Kittle, a Kelsey. So if he's going to play

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<v Speaker 4>like that, I mean Cook, If you had to look

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<v Speaker 4>at twenty twenty five, you would say Jonathan Taylor's had

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<v Speaker 4>the best year at running back. McCaffrey is just week

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<v Speaker 4>in week out bringing, and you would put Cook. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>he's been one of the best running backs in the

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<v Speaker 4>NFL this year and you watch him on a weekly

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<v Speaker 4>basis not really debatable. So you get high level tight

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<v Speaker 4>end play, you get high level running back play. I

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<v Speaker 4>would say since Cook has become a high end starter,

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<v Speaker 4>it's really changed the Bills offense and it's made Joe

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<v Speaker 4>Brady look a lot better. The other thing is if

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<v Speaker 4>you have a good defensive line. The Chiefs are missing

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<v Speaker 4>their star rookie left tackle who's been gone now for

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<v Speaker 4>several weeks. Today they had multiple injuries at right guard,

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<v Speaker 4>at right or at left guard, and at right tackle. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>if that means your backup left tackle is starting because

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<v Speaker 4>Simmons is gone, so you actually are going to like

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<v Speaker 4>a backups backup. The Domino effect was pretty big, and

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<v Speaker 4>you just saw him kind of under duress, and the

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<v Speaker 4>reality is sometimes when he's under duress, he will make

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<v Speaker 4>decisions like you know, other run of the mill quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 4>and not one of the great players we've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 4>And he did today all.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Minnesota twenty seven, Detroit twenty four. Before we get

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<v Speaker 3>to JJ McCarthy, golf got sacked five times, hit eleven

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<v Speaker 3>ten tackles for loss. Brian Flores was on his game today.

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<v Speaker 3>They couldn't run the football at all, so it was

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<v Speaker 3>amor on. Saint Brown and Sam Laporta were excellent, but

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<v Speaker 3>Detroit could not run the ball. And that's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>the engine that makes everything slick and click there. JJ

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<v Speaker 3>McCarthy was after the first couple of drives, he was

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<v Speaker 3>about fifty percent again, but I got two touchdowns, ran

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<v Speaker 3>for another okay on third down. I thought he was

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<v Speaker 3>very good in the script and stuff early. Overall, he

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<v Speaker 3>moves well.

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<v Speaker 1>He looks.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny about size. He looks a little small to me.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so funny. Mahomes is six one and a half.

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<v Speaker 3>He feels huge to me, I don't Aaron Rodgers is

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<v Speaker 3>six one and a half. He feels six to four. McCarthy,

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<v Speaker 3>it sometimes feels like he gets engulfed. But overall, I

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<v Speaker 3>thought he moved well and played pretty well. Did you

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<v Speaker 3>have a strong take on him?

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<v Speaker 4>I think your take on the waight, I think it's

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<v Speaker 4>a girth thing, you know, the side of the thickness,

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<v Speaker 4>because Russell Wilson never felt like he was small, right,

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<v Speaker 4>even though he's five ten yearl because he's two hundred

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<v Speaker 4>twenty pounds. Yeah, Caleb's a good example. Yeah, shorter, but

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<v Speaker 4>feels like he's two sixteen.

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<v Speaker 3>And Caleb's six feet to I'm taller than Caleb by

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<v Speaker 3>like an inch.

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<v Speaker 4>One thing we said about JJ last year during the injury,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think Albert Breer and a bunch of guys,

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<v Speaker 4>he lost a bunch of weight and was like one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred and eighty five pounds, So I think it's harder

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<v Speaker 4>for Mahomes probably wised to earn thirty pounds. So I

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<v Speaker 4>think that factors in the number one thing with JJ

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<v Speaker 4>today were the good plays were touchdowns. So if you're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna count for three touchdowns, you could have twenty in

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<v Speaker 4>completions and have some terrible plays. It's when you're not

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<v Speaker 4>scoring and bringing none to that to the table, it's

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<v Speaker 4>just a complete disaster. Flora, As I thought, if you're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna give one game ball to a coach, same it'd

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<v Speaker 4>probably have to go to him because you're on the

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<v Speaker 4>road in Detroit. That was that was excellent. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>his guys were flying around. Gof's good against the blitz

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<v Speaker 4>and early on I think they had blitzed like five

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<v Speaker 4>or six times it sacked them. On two of them,

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<v Speaker 4>Gough was all out of sink where offense was out

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<v Speaker 4>of sink, and it felt like he gave the speech,

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<v Speaker 4>we're going to have to win this thing because in

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<v Speaker 4>fairness coming into that game and they kept hitting on it.

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<v Speaker 4>On the broadcast of I thought Tom did a good job.

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<v Speaker 4>He said, there's no one disputing his arm strength. But

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Burkhardt must have come in late from the

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<v Speaker 4>baseball game last night. Was there talking about a guy grinding,

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<v Speaker 4>And Brady's big thing was clearly he knows Kevin pretty well.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, sometimes you need to do a change up.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes we need to get some off speed. Sometimes you

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<v Speaker 4>need touch balls. Yes, because you watch the arm strength

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<v Speaker 4>is fine, but on some of these balls over the

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<v Speaker 4>middle on third and eight, and even at his interception

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<v Speaker 4>was a little behind. His accuracy like some of these

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<v Speaker 4>guys is a work in progress.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, JJ's interception was low and down it and the

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<v Speaker 3>Lions player came over it. No, that's that's Matt Stafford

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<v Speaker 3>is the master of tempo. Like he can sling it

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<v Speaker 3>side arm, he can throw a heat and I think

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<v Speaker 3>of it. It's just it is a little bit like

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<v Speaker 3>being a baseball pitcher. I what I worry about what

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<v Speaker 3>JJ McCarthy is, And I felt like this was Brock Purtty.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, when the Niners, Christian McCaffrey is upright, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't even care who the quarterback is. I mean like,

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<v Speaker 3>if Christian McCaffrey plays today at half their yards, it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't matter if it's Mac Jones or Brock pretty. I

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<v Speaker 3>do feel with Kevin O'Connell justin Jefferson good left tackle.

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of feel like it's hard to evaluate JJ

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<v Speaker 3>because the coach, the left tackle, and the receiver are

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<v Speaker 3>so good. It's like San Francisco with Kyle and Christian McCaffrey.

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<v Speaker 3>And then when Kittle is healthy and Jennings can be,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, highly productive, how valuable is the quarterback? So

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<v Speaker 3>this is an anti J McCarthy. I just think I

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<v Speaker 3>think again, I think I just need more of him.

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<v Speaker 3>I just have to see more games. I thought Brian

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<v Speaker 3>Flores was game ball Brian Flores.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why I think it's fair for JJ McCarthy. The

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<v Speaker 4>bar of how he's being judged should be higher than

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of random young quarterbacks on bad teams. When

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<v Speaker 4>you play for crappy franchises and you lose. I expect that,

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<v Speaker 4>Like whoever the Carolina Panthers draft, I don't expect it

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<v Speaker 4>to look great. But when you get Justin Jefferson in

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<v Speaker 4>his prime, Howkinson, Jordan Addison, Kevin o'connoff. We had a

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<v Speaker 4>coaching draft, where would Kevin o' he'd go in the

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<v Speaker 4>top five? Yes, so everything, And this was Trey Lance's thing.

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<v Speaker 4>When you get drafted to a team whose expectations are, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>let's win fourteen games and compete for the conference championship, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Just get judged a lot differently.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'll give JJ credit in the Bears game, he

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<v Speaker 4>had huge moments in a big time today. At the

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<v Speaker 4>end of the game, with the game on the line,

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<v Speaker 4>his coach put in his hands and he delivered. And

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<v Speaker 4>that's where I think a lot of his defenders go

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<v Speaker 4>with the quote unquote he's a winner. There is some

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<v Speaker 4>winning characteristics when you're comfortable in big moments. You go

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<v Speaker 4>back to that moment against Alabama where it looked like

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<v Speaker 4>Harbaugh had this all time great roster and he was

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<v Speaker 4>gonna lose in the in the playoffs. To Nick saban

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<v Speaker 4>On probably, I bet Nick would say one of his

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<v Speaker 4>worst ever playoff teams. JJ made some great plays. You

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<v Speaker 4>watched his first start against the Bears, Big Spot made

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<v Speaker 4>some great plays. And today on I thought they were

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<v Speaker 4>just gonna run it and just hey, lean it on floors.

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<v Speaker 4>They put in his hands. Great throw, Colin, not a

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<v Speaker 4>good throw, a great deal.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Well, when I watched him at Michigan, that was

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<v Speaker 3>always my take. Moves, Well, gritty kid didn't make a

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<v Speaker 3>ton of big throws, but he'd make one or two

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<v Speaker 3>NFL Sunday throws. He can make the big throws. So

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<v Speaker 3>I just don't have a ton you know. I mean, like,

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<v Speaker 3>say what you want about bow knicks. I've got like

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<v Speaker 3>a six game winning streak and he's got a one

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen passer rating, nine touchdowns, no pick in the fourth quarter.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got a lot of samples of bow knicks. He

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<v Speaker 3>can have gaps, but late he's really good. So I

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<v Speaker 3>with JJ, I've never been a huge believer, but I thought,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, to go to Detroit, you got the deal. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you win in a lot of different ways.

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<v Speaker 3>Every Sunday for Brady was great. That Teddy Bruski crew.

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<v Speaker 3>There were days that Tom didn't do a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>heavy lifting. He was twenty at twenty eight with a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of underneath stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, if I was going to defend, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>JJ hasn't been playing, Carson has or but definitely Caleb Williams.

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<v Speaker 4>They're i mean Caleb's defense. Sometimes you watch the Bears

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<v Speaker 4>on defense and they just look atrocious in Minnesota till today.

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<v Speaker 4>They had been pretty bad this season, Colin, I mean

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<v Speaker 4>today was and even today they gave it. It's not

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<v Speaker 4>like they gave up ten points. I mean, and they

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<v Speaker 4>had some drop balls. I mean there were plays to

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<v Speaker 4>be made. Like the defense is on those two teams,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, bow Knicks. We might have just watched the

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<v Speaker 4>two best defense in the league play each other today, right,

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<v Speaker 4>The physicality of Denver and Houston and how good their

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<v Speaker 4>defensive lines are. So anytime you have a defense that

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<v Speaker 4>is that good does back you up when you're not

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<v Speaker 4>making plays. But I'd say all three of these guys

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<v Speaker 4>have one thing going for him, JJ McCarthy. Now, obviously

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<v Speaker 4>Caleb and bow Knicks making plays in big spots. And

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<v Speaker 4>I think when you look at Caleb and Bonnicks, they've

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<v Speaker 4>had a lot of snaps now in their career.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they also have Sean Payton. I mean, look at

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<v Speaker 3>You know what's remarkable to me, and maybe it's I

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<v Speaker 3>was thinking about this today. So the Rams beat the

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<v Speaker 3>Saints thirty four to ten. Time of possession was forty

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<v Speaker 3>three minutes to seventeen. I mean it was it almost

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<v Speaker 3>Bay kind of struggle to figure out what they are

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<v Speaker 3>because the Dodgers are taking so much glare in Los

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<v Speaker 3>Angeles away from football and should.

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<v Speaker 1>The Rams are really good.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean we forget they went in London and they

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<v Speaker 3>blow out Jacksonville like thirty five to seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Rams.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, john are really really good. Pooka came back today,

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<v Speaker 3>Korum played okay. They have a two headed run game. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>they have four healthy tight ends, Jordan Winningham that sixth

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<v Speaker 3>round draft pick. They have a sixth and a seventh

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<v Speaker 3>round wide receiver that can play a little bit. The

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<v Speaker 3>defense is excellent up front, I think quietly. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>if you took and I really believe this, I think

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<v Speaker 3>the Rams are the most consistent, best coached right now,

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<v Speaker 3>healthiest team. I don't think the old line is great.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's very good. I think they have a

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<v Speaker 3>great guard tandem. But I you know, and I had

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<v Speaker 3>this was a lower right hand corner game as I

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<v Speaker 3>was watching Kansas City and Buffalo. But Jesus, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>it was. I mean, we've seen a lot of upsets

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<v Speaker 3>this year and a lot of weird shit. That thing

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<v Speaker 3>today was a practice. It was just it was just

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<v Speaker 3>easy peasy, and I mean it's Stafford. At one point,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what he finished. He had four touchdowns,

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<v Speaker 3>no picks, Jesus, they were getting seven yards of carry.

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<v Speaker 3>The rams are really good.

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<v Speaker 4>He was thirty four to thirty two for two hundred

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<v Speaker 4>eighty yards and four touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 3>Thirty four to forty two.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the other or no, twenty four to thirty two,

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<v Speaker 4>oh for two eighty so he had eight incompletions. I'd

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<v Speaker 4>say the scary thing these last couple of games is

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<v Speaker 4>DeVante has five touchdowns. So when that you figure out

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<v Speaker 4>that report to go along with Puka. Now Pook at

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<v Speaker 4>any moment, you know, take some vicious hits. He runs

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<v Speaker 4>guys over. You know, can this guy stay healthy? But

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<v Speaker 4>those two guys are on the field right now. They're

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<v Speaker 4>as good of a one to two combos like in

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<v Speaker 4>terms of production and what they bring to the tables,

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<v Speaker 4>like chasing Higgins. They're on kind of unstoppable. And the

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<v Speaker 4>one thing with DeVante, he's very comfortable with the high

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<v Speaker 4>end veteran quarterback in his prime with Aaron it's kind

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<v Speaker 4>of starting to feel like that those guys cohesion, especially

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<v Speaker 4>in the in the red zone, has Matt Stafford kind

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<v Speaker 4>of quietly because you know, today I don't think a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of people are dialed into the Saints game, right,

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<v Speaker 4>But four touchdowns five touchdowns Jack, I think he threw

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<v Speaker 4>three in that loss against the Niners. He's got to

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<v Speaker 4>be directly in the mix.

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<v Speaker 3>So I have said this before. This sounds crazy. So

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<v Speaker 3>he was better than Aaron Rodgers in high school, and

0:22:53.000 --> 0:22:55.199
<v Speaker 3>he was better than Aaron in college, and he was

0:22:55.240 --> 0:22:57.439
<v Speaker 3>better than Aaron for the first four years of his

0:22:57.520 --> 0:23:00.520
<v Speaker 3>NFL career. He's been better than Aaron for the last

0:23:00.560 --> 0:23:02.600
<v Speaker 3>four years of his NFL career. Aaron had a ten

0:23:02.640 --> 0:23:06.439
<v Speaker 3>eleven year stratch at Green Bay, where Matt Stafford was.

0:23:07.960 --> 0:23:10.760
<v Speaker 3>You know, he was with a losing organization and Aaron

0:23:10.840 --> 0:23:15.920
<v Speaker 3>had the well run outfit. What if Matt Stafford wins

0:23:15.960 --> 0:23:18.520
<v Speaker 3>another Super Bowl, now, think about that. He's got a

0:23:18.520 --> 0:23:25.840
<v Speaker 3>better playoff record. He was better early, better late. If

0:23:25.880 --> 0:23:28.840
<v Speaker 3>Matt Stafford win, well, he's already a hall I think

0:23:28.880 --> 0:23:30.560
<v Speaker 3>he's a Hall of Famer now right, Matt Stafford's a

0:23:30.560 --> 0:23:31.280
<v Speaker 3>Hall of Fame right now.

0:23:31.359 --> 0:23:32.240
<v Speaker 4>I put him.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what if Matt Stafford wins a second Super Bowl?

0:23:36.400 --> 0:23:39.920
<v Speaker 3>He's always been considered one of the best arm talents

0:23:39.920 --> 0:23:44.119
<v Speaker 3>of our generation. That's indisputable. You could ask anybody the

0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:48.080
<v Speaker 3>Brady's ask Aaron asked Far they all go, yeah, Stafford's it.

0:23:49.040 --> 0:23:51.280
<v Speaker 3>Where do you put him all the time? Serious question?

0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:55.159
<v Speaker 3>Matt Stafford wins a second Super Bowl? I'm telling you

0:23:55.359 --> 0:23:57.159
<v Speaker 3>there's not a lot of guys I'd put above him.

0:23:57.160 --> 0:24:00.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean, he didn't have he didn't have quite the

0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:05.120
<v Speaker 3>gravitas of your Brady, Montana, Manning, and Elway. But Marino's

0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:09.239
<v Speaker 3>got no super Bowls. He's got two. I don't know

0:24:10.400 --> 0:24:14.720
<v Speaker 3>Stafford is watching him this season? Shit, man, he is.

0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:17.119
<v Speaker 3>He is dialed in, He's comfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:24:18.640 --> 0:24:19.840
<v Speaker 3>What do you do with him all time? If he

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<v Speaker 3>wins a second Well.

0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:23.800
<v Speaker 4>To me, it's hard. I mean you could make the argument,

0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:27.199
<v Speaker 4>Aaron's a top five guy, you know, with Manning, Montana,

0:24:27.359 --> 0:24:31.120
<v Speaker 4>Brady Elway, pretty short list to me, I don't think

0:24:31.119 --> 0:24:35.040
<v Speaker 4>most people would include Stafford in the top ten of quarterbacks. Now,

0:24:35.040 --> 0:24:37.520
<v Speaker 4>granted he played for the Lions, not the Dan Campbellions.

0:24:37.560 --> 0:24:38.879
<v Speaker 3>Would you have put him by if he has a

0:24:38.920 --> 0:24:42.320
<v Speaker 3>second Super Bowl. He's a better arm talent than Drew Brees.

0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Matt.

0:24:43.440 --> 0:24:46.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, to me, there is not if I could get here,

0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:49.440
<v Speaker 4>here's the argument. If you could get twenty three year

0:24:49.440 --> 0:24:53.800
<v Speaker 4>old Matt Stafford or and start listing out quarterbacks, he

0:24:53.880 --> 0:24:56.000
<v Speaker 4>would go ahead of a lot of guys because he's

0:24:56.000 --> 0:24:58.280
<v Speaker 4>showing that. What if Matt Stafford had been drafted by

0:24:58.800 --> 0:25:02.120
<v Speaker 4>a hardball brother an Andy Reid a Sean Payton right

0:25:02.119 --> 0:25:05.399
<v Speaker 4>when he was twenty three, instead of going to the Lions,

0:25:05.480 --> 0:25:08.440
<v Speaker 4>who always drafted high right and they're two best players

0:25:08.800 --> 0:25:11.919
<v Speaker 4>beside him quit at thirty years old. I mean, it's

0:25:12.000 --> 0:25:14.399
<v Speaker 4>a pretty the Lions that if you're a twelve year

0:25:14.440 --> 0:25:17.800
<v Speaker 4>old kid right now, you can't even comprehend this conversation.

0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:21.679
<v Speaker 4>But I do think that the time with the Lions,

0:25:21.880 --> 0:25:23.639
<v Speaker 4>he has had years where he's thrown a lot of picks,

0:25:23.640 --> 0:25:26.119
<v Speaker 4>he can be a little reckless. The way he's playing

0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:28.520
<v Speaker 4>right now, though, like his ceiling. One thing I will

0:25:28.560 --> 0:25:32.800
<v Speaker 4>say about this, His ceiling is as high as any player.

0:25:32.960 --> 0:25:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:25:33.240 --> 0:25:35.720
<v Speaker 4>Ever, like he can go toe to toe when he's on.

0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:39.280
<v Speaker 4>I say this about Camp. Camp can have individual games

0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:41.199
<v Speaker 4>where he can outplay any guy in the league and

0:25:41.200 --> 0:25:44.240
<v Speaker 4>that was prime Brady, prime Manning. Now Stafford's a better

0:25:44.280 --> 0:25:46.440
<v Speaker 4>player than Camp but in that same vein of like,

0:25:46.920 --> 0:25:48.720
<v Speaker 4>if you get Stafford in the right day or the

0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:50.960
<v Speaker 4>right month, he can just be the best player in

0:25:50.960 --> 0:25:54.160
<v Speaker 4>the league now. And I do think this second kind

0:25:54.160 --> 0:25:56.920
<v Speaker 4>of iteration of his career with Sean is going to

0:25:57.000 --> 0:26:00.159
<v Speaker 4>be a really powerful moment for his career, and he'll

0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:03.840
<v Speaker 4>have like the Kurt Warner type the individual seasons. I

0:26:03.880 --> 0:26:06.040
<v Speaker 4>just think it's hard to shake that that lion stretch,

0:26:06.160 --> 0:26:09.800
<v Speaker 4>because well, winning and losing isn't a quarterback statistic. Most

0:26:09.840 --> 0:26:12.280
<v Speaker 4>good quarterbacks win a lot. Not all his fault, but

0:26:12.400 --> 0:26:14.560
<v Speaker 4>I do think he probably developed some bad habits there.

0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:20.360
<v Speaker 3>Let's talk some World series. So that's about as good

0:26:20.359 --> 0:26:23.520
<v Speaker 3>a World Series, especially Game six and seven as I've

0:26:23.520 --> 0:26:26.000
<v Speaker 3>ever seen in my life. So I, you know, I

0:26:26.080 --> 0:26:29.040
<v Speaker 3>thought it was really interesting. You know, Dave Roberts pulled

0:26:29.080 --> 0:26:33.320
<v Speaker 3>all these levers, you know, like he just pulled all

0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:37.720
<v Speaker 3>these levers, and to win a World Series where you know,

0:26:37.760 --> 0:26:41.640
<v Speaker 3>he puts in Rojas and then the out the defensive

0:26:41.680 --> 0:26:45.679
<v Speaker 3>outfielder in the ninth and he goes with Yoshi again.

0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:47.080
<v Speaker 3>Everything worked.

0:26:47.640 --> 0:26:49.000
<v Speaker 2>But I think, you know, as I was.

0:26:49.119 --> 0:26:53.520
<v Speaker 3>I was talking to a friend about this, is that Otani,

0:26:53.880 --> 0:26:57.240
<v Speaker 3>Roki and Yoshi, and right now Yoshi is arguably the

0:26:57.320 --> 0:27:00.439
<v Speaker 3>best pitcher, and Otani is the best player. He's been

0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:03.600
<v Speaker 3>moved to the pen. But these Japanese stars and Japanese

0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:06.520
<v Speaker 3>baseball is like really high high Triple A. It's not

0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:10.880
<v Speaker 3>quite the Bigs, but it's there's great players and it's

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:16.920
<v Speaker 3>a The Dodgers have so separated financially from everybody else

0:27:17.119 --> 0:27:21.040
<v Speaker 3>on I mean on the West coast that I mean,

0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:23.840
<v Speaker 3>they always had money. But the gap now between the

0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:27.399
<v Speaker 3>Dodgers and the Giants and everybody else, the Angels and

0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:32.800
<v Speaker 3>the Mariners, is that these Japanese stars, between weather and

0:27:32.880 --> 0:27:36.159
<v Speaker 3>proximity and how well run the organization is. And the

0:27:36.200 --> 0:27:38.680
<v Speaker 3>Dodgers are smart, so they said, listen. The only downside

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:40.679
<v Speaker 3>the taxes just to fer the payment, so you can

0:27:40.760 --> 0:27:43.359
<v Speaker 3>get paid when you've retired and lived somewhere else.

0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:44.520
<v Speaker 2>Is that.

0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:46.960
<v Speaker 3>A friend of mine in New York was saying, God,

0:27:46.960 --> 0:27:50.120
<v Speaker 3>our teams are bad, but I said, New York is cold,

0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:54.880
<v Speaker 3>it's intense, a much harsher media. The city tax La

0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:57.400
<v Speaker 3>has spread out. You can hide. I mean, I never

0:27:57.440 --> 0:28:00.159
<v Speaker 3>see I was in La nine years. I'm here right now.

0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:03.560
<v Speaker 3>You never see pro athletes in LA. You can just hot.

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:07.880
<v Speaker 3>You never see celebrities in LA, and they're everywhere. There's writers, directors.

0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:09.679
<v Speaker 3>I mean, look how many pro teams were in LA.

0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:11.720
<v Speaker 3>You never see athletes ever.

0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:13.320
<v Speaker 1>It's just so spread out.

0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:19.360
<v Speaker 3>There's so many gated communities. Calabasa's Hidden Hills, Malibu. You know,

0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:23.560
<v Speaker 3>everybody's got these enclaves, Beverly Hills, bel Air, Windy Roads,

0:28:23.560 --> 0:28:27.280
<v Speaker 3>you can hide thousand oaks. And I think I think

0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:31.040
<v Speaker 3>they I think the Dodgers right now. Steve Cohen's got

0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 3>money with the Mets, the Yankees have money. They just

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:38.480
<v Speaker 3>feel like with these Japanese stars. And you know the

0:28:38.480 --> 0:28:41.760
<v Speaker 3>other thing, John, those guys don't listen to our media.

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:45.280
<v Speaker 3>It's like international NBA players. They come here, they play,

0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:48.120
<v Speaker 3>and then they go home. They don't get caught up.

0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:53.080
<v Speaker 3>They play. So I mean, Yoshi plays so loose in

0:28:53.120 --> 0:28:57.000
<v Speaker 3>these big spots. He's so unaffected by the intensity and

0:28:57.040 --> 0:29:01.160
<v Speaker 3>the chaos of the World Series. I don't know. I

0:29:01.240 --> 0:29:03.120
<v Speaker 3>just look at the Dodgers and I'm not sure there's

0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 3>another organization in North America that's run like they are.

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:09.800
<v Speaker 4>One of my best friends played college baseball, and one

0:29:09.800 --> 0:29:12.719
<v Speaker 4>of his teammates, you know, was like a fringe big leaguer,

0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:15.600
<v Speaker 4>triple A guy, and signed a deal with the Japanese

0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:18.479
<v Speaker 4>team when Otani right before he came over, when he

0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:21.760
<v Speaker 4>was alleged over there, and they went over and visited

0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:23.720
<v Speaker 4>and went to the games, and they were at the

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 4>highest level, and they said that it felt like an

0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:29.959
<v Speaker 4>SEC football game. The intensity in the environment in Japan,

0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:34.400
<v Speaker 4>the way these Yamamoto and Otani grew up playing, I

0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:37.120
<v Speaker 4>mean they make it right. When they're sixteen, seventeen, eighteen

0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:39.320
<v Speaker 4>years old started playing in that league and they just

0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 4>said the intensity of the crowd would be like going

0:29:41.400 --> 0:29:44.200
<v Speaker 4>to Alabama Auburn. How much these people know about baseball

0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:46.360
<v Speaker 4>and how much they care. So these guys the bright

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:50.880
<v Speaker 4>light's completely unfazed. When Otani was like one of twenty

0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:53.800
<v Speaker 4>five through the first whatever of the playoffs, it wasn't

0:29:53.840 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 4>because he was overwhelmed. He couldn't see the baseball right.

0:29:57.840 --> 0:30:00.600
<v Speaker 4>But the difference I would say of baseball, the Warriors

0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:03.440
<v Speaker 4>can't win unless Steph is incredible during the playoffs. Right

0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:06.520
<v Speaker 4>in the NFL, you could have a random guy make

0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 4>a big play in a Super Bowl or an NFC championship.

0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:11.640
<v Speaker 4>But your stars, your star quarterback, your star pass rusher

0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 4>have to come through or you will lose. In baseball,

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:16.160
<v Speaker 4>that's not really how it works. Yeah, I mean I

0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:19.120
<v Speaker 4>was a Giants fan. Cody Ross in twenty ten hit

0:30:19.160 --> 0:30:21.240
<v Speaker 4>home runs off Roy Halliday that no one saw coming

0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:24.800
<v Speaker 4>in Philadelphia. The Dodgers won the World Series last night.

0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:26.640
<v Speaker 4>You could argue because they rolled out four guys they're

0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:29.320
<v Speaker 4>paying a combined one point five billion dollars two or

0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:32.280
<v Speaker 4>because their ninth hitter in the in the ninth inning

0:30:32.560 --> 0:30:35.080
<v Speaker 4>hits a game tying home run where they were going

0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:38.000
<v Speaker 4>to lose the World Series, and then that same guy

0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:43.000
<v Speaker 4>almost falls throws home and then their backup center fielder

0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:46.720
<v Speaker 4>who had been benched. I'm watching with my wife. She

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 4>falls out of her chair.

0:30:48.160 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 1>She's like, what just happened?

0:30:49.880 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 4>That had to be one of the crazier plays in

0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:54.120
<v Speaker 4>World Series because it looked like he was going to

0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:57.440
<v Speaker 4>basket catch it, and this random center fielder tackles him

0:30:57.520 --> 0:31:00.240
<v Speaker 4>like he's Ed Reid across the middle and saves the game.

0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 4>But that's baseball, it's not. It wasn't no tany hitting.

0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:07.640
<v Speaker 4>The walk up Will Smith, Will Smith Rojas and that

0:31:07.720 --> 0:31:08.800
<v Speaker 4>big guy in center field.

0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:11.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's and that's.

0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:14.320
<v Speaker 4>What makes baseball pretty unique in the playoffs. It's not

0:31:14.480 --> 0:31:15.200
<v Speaker 4>just your stars.

0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:17.960
<v Speaker 3>And I think and again, even when if you go

0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:20.040
<v Speaker 3>back and look at the great Yankee teams with Jeter

0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:24.320
<v Speaker 3>and Bernie and Posada, you know it was Scott Brocious

0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:28.800
<v Speaker 3>from mcmnville, Oregon coming up big. So like nobody had

0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:31.320
<v Speaker 3>a problem when the Yankees were buying the best players

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:36.600
<v Speaker 3>because people understood that Posada and Jeter, that was part

0:31:36.600 --> 0:31:40.640
<v Speaker 3>of the Yankee farm system. Well go look at the Dodgers.

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:44.200
<v Speaker 3>They haven't missed. I mean they they draft I mean

0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:47.160
<v Speaker 3>Max Munsey was released from Oakland. They I think they

0:31:47.200 --> 0:31:49.720
<v Speaker 3>traded for Blake Snell. I mean, these guys are available

0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:54.960
<v Speaker 3>on the market. The Steinbrenners could have afforded to buy Yoshi.

0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 3>They spent three hundred million. The Dodgers said three thirty five.

0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:02.480
<v Speaker 3>They don't win the series without him, so they identify

0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:05.280
<v Speaker 3>who they want. They are aggressive. I think we're the

0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:09.080
<v Speaker 3>Dodgers where I see their money being an advantage because

0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:12.200
<v Speaker 3>Mookie Betts did not outside of September, just didn't hit

0:32:12.240 --> 0:32:14.880
<v Speaker 3>this year, played a very good short stuff, didn't hit.

0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 3>Freddie Freeman's more offensive the defensive player, and Otani had

0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:22.760
<v Speaker 3>real struggles at the plate throughout the playoffs where the

0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:26.360
<v Speaker 3>Dodgers have an advantage a the Asian Stars, obviously, but

0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:29.520
<v Speaker 3>it's to get to get a glass Now or a

0:32:29.520 --> 0:32:31.400
<v Speaker 3>Snell who may not give you a ton of starts

0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:35.320
<v Speaker 3>during the regular season. Most teams cannot afford to pay

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:37.320
<v Speaker 3>a guy if he's not giving you twenty five. I mean,

0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:41.280
<v Speaker 3>Yoshi's the only guy that he never misses a start,

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:44.120
<v Speaker 3>like he's a true bona fide ace like Verlin or

0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:46.560
<v Speaker 3>in his prime, you're getting thirty starts. They can go

0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:50.000
<v Speaker 3>get a Snell and a Glass now remarkably talented guys

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:53.000
<v Speaker 3>and get ten twelve starts in the regular season and

0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:55.480
<v Speaker 3>just push them off to September. That's the advantage they have.

0:32:56.680 --> 0:32:59.320
<v Speaker 3>But you can also lots of teams could defer payments

0:32:59.360 --> 0:33:02.640
<v Speaker 3>and they don't. The Dodgers do. So. Yes, money is

0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 3>clearly an ex but I think to your point, Yoshi

0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:09.440
<v Speaker 3>was great, but there were a lot of guys slumping.

0:33:09.480 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 3>I mean, if you go back to this World Series,

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:13.680
<v Speaker 3>the Blue Jays out hit the Dodgers, I mean the

0:33:13.720 --> 0:33:16.200
<v Speaker 3>Dodgers in game six to one. I think they had

0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 3>four hits. I mean they struggled the whole series to hit.

0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:23.360
<v Speaker 4>I actually think baseball is much closer to football in

0:33:23.440 --> 0:33:26.080
<v Speaker 4>terms of in the Dodgers was two years ago. I

0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:28.000
<v Speaker 4>mean almost got beat by the Padres in the play.

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:30.360
<v Speaker 4>It's the baseball. I don't care how good your team

0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:33.080
<v Speaker 4>is in basketball. When I got the Kevin Durant Warriors,

0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:35.760
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna need Achilles tears and ACL tears to loose.

0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 4>Other than that, I'm a lock to win. Shaq, Kobe Laker,

0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:41.480
<v Speaker 4>some of these teams, it's gonna be ninety percent chance

0:33:41.520 --> 0:33:44.840
<v Speaker 4>I win. The Dodgers roster can't get much better, and

0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:47.120
<v Speaker 4>it was really difficult for them to win. I was

0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:49.200
<v Speaker 4>just say they probably should have lost. You know, that's

0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:50.040
<v Speaker 4>that's baseball.

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:53.640
<v Speaker 3>Though they won a World Series last year with really

0:33:53.720 --> 0:33:56.520
<v Speaker 3>average starting pitching, and they won a World Series this

0:33:56.640 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 3>year with a really average bullpen, which is verse impossible

0:34:00.800 --> 0:34:02.880
<v Speaker 3>to do if you're leaking in the back end. I mean,

0:34:03.000 --> 0:34:05.960
<v Speaker 3>Yoshi basically is why they won the World Series. But

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:08.640
<v Speaker 3>I will say, having spent nine years a full time

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:12.440
<v Speaker 3>in Los Angeles, they just don't make a lot of mistakes.

0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:12.799
<v Speaker 1>They don't.

0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:16.400
<v Speaker 3>I mean, they let Zach Grinkey go. They could have

0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 3>made a big bid for him. He went to Arizona.

0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:22.719
<v Speaker 3>They let Manny Machado go. They don't make a lot

0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:27.839
<v Speaker 3>of mistakes. And they've also let Cody Bellinger go. They've

0:34:27.920 --> 0:34:35.240
<v Speaker 3>let good players, you know, leave. So money's obviously apart,

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:39.239
<v Speaker 3>but you know, I mean the truth is in the

0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:42.279
<v Speaker 3>NBA during the David Stern years, money was a part,

0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 3>but the New York Knicks weren't winning. Some people don't

0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:46.359
<v Speaker 3>spend the money as wisely. I mean, we know game

0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:48.880
<v Speaker 3>day revenue, the Giants and the Jets have much greater

0:34:48.960 --> 0:34:52.279
<v Speaker 3>game day revenue than green Bay. Green Bay spends their

0:34:52.360 --> 0:34:53.240
<v Speaker 3>money more wisely.

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:56.319
<v Speaker 4>When I was working in radio, I got to go

0:34:56.360 --> 0:34:58.279
<v Speaker 4>to a lot of the A's were really good then,

0:34:58.400 --> 0:35:00.640
<v Speaker 4>kind of in Billy Bean's prime in thes were winning

0:35:00.960 --> 0:35:04.000
<v Speaker 4>a bunch of World Series. And I think sometimes with baseball,

0:35:04.080 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 4>especially probably over the last decade, it gets overlooked because

0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:09.000
<v Speaker 4>we spend so much time talking about these kind of

0:35:09.040 --> 0:35:12.319
<v Speaker 4>the quote unquote nerds running the sport. I do think

0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:16.600
<v Speaker 4>the best kind of nerds understand character and cohesion, and

0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:18.480
<v Speaker 4>one thing you watch with the Dodgers. Like feels like

0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:19.960
<v Speaker 4>all these guys like each other and they had a

0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:22.040
<v Speaker 4>good I would say with the Blue Jays, it jumped

0:35:22.080 --> 0:35:24.560
<v Speaker 4>off the screen. It was like this team looks like

0:35:24.560 --> 0:35:27.200
<v Speaker 4>a college team all playing together. The San Francsco Giants,

0:35:27.239 --> 0:35:29.600
<v Speaker 4>you always had that Billy Bean always did a really

0:35:29.640 --> 0:35:32.400
<v Speaker 4>good job of finding the right mix of guys. Baseball

0:35:32.440 --> 0:35:34.400
<v Speaker 4>is about more and you watch the Yankees, it seems

0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:37.239
<v Speaker 4>like missing a little something that's the knock, Like at

0:35:37.280 --> 0:35:39.160
<v Speaker 4>the end of the day in baseball, you still got

0:35:39.160 --> 0:35:40.160
<v Speaker 4>to have some fast guys.

0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:40.479
<v Speaker 1>That can run.

0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:43.200
<v Speaker 4>And you watch the Dodgers. Definitely the Blue Jays, they

0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:45.840
<v Speaker 4>got their best players are athletes. The Yankees are a

0:35:45.880 --> 0:35:48.040
<v Speaker 4>good example. Their best players all look like, you know,

0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:50.840
<v Speaker 4>move like defensive tackles. It's like you doesn't need a

0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:51.360
<v Speaker 4>little speech.

0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:53.719
<v Speaker 3>Well, the Yankees strike out too much. They don't play

0:35:53.760 --> 0:35:57.399
<v Speaker 3>small ball. The Dodgers have the ability to. I mean, listen,

0:35:57.480 --> 0:36:01.880
<v Speaker 3>Toronto hit the ball more consistently. The Dodgers had the

0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:04.560
<v Speaker 3>better starting pitching. I mean, if you go back to

0:36:04.560 --> 0:36:07.120
<v Speaker 3>the last year's World Series, the only time the Yankees

0:36:07.160 --> 0:36:09.719
<v Speaker 3>competed with the Dodgers is when Garrett Cole pitched, the

0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:12.799
<v Speaker 3>Yankees didn't look athletic enough, didn't run the bases. Well,

0:36:12.840 --> 0:36:15.800
<v Speaker 3>they're not a very good defensive team. The Yankees strikeout

0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:19.480
<v Speaker 3>too much, and they have tons of money, so you know,

0:36:19.560 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think.

0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:22.840
<v Speaker 4>That's one of the most thrilling endings to a World

0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:25.320
<v Speaker 4>Series all.

0:36:24.400 --> 0:36:29.280
<v Speaker 3>I think Game six, in Game seven, the final innings

0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:32.920
<v Speaker 3>are the greatest, most drama field. You have to go

0:36:32.960 --> 0:36:34.479
<v Speaker 3>back to the seventy five I think it was seventy

0:36:34.520 --> 0:36:36.760
<v Speaker 3>five World Series. It was Reds against the Red Sox.

0:36:36.760 --> 0:36:40.200
<v Speaker 3>It's that Carlton fiskomer at Fenway where he's you know, yeah,

0:36:40.239 --> 0:36:43.359
<v Speaker 3>waving at it, and I remember watching that as a kid.

0:36:43.400 --> 0:36:46.040
<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's the first baseball memory I have is

0:36:46.080 --> 0:36:48.799
<v Speaker 3>like the seventy four, seventy five, seventy six Cincinnati Reds

0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:50.879
<v Speaker 3>because I was in Seattle, we didn't have the Mariners yet,

0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:54.200
<v Speaker 3>and that's when I fell in love with football over baseball.

0:36:54.239 --> 0:36:56.279
<v Speaker 3>But the mid seventies, the big Red Machine, I fell

0:36:56.320 --> 0:36:58.360
<v Speaker 3>in love with it, and that had I mean, I

0:36:58.400 --> 0:37:00.920
<v Speaker 3>can go back to that series. Names that you guys

0:37:01.000 --> 0:37:04.600
<v Speaker 3>you've never heard, but I thought the magnitude it was

0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:07.440
<v Speaker 3>just so I mean, you had Dave Roberts had to

0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:13.200
<v Speaker 3>pull so many damn levers, you know, going with Rojas

0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:16.759
<v Speaker 3>like old guy. I'm not even sure when his last

0:37:16.760 --> 0:37:19.319
<v Speaker 3>home run was. Dave Roberts said after his wife kept

0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:22.640
<v Speaker 3>telling Rojas the whole series, you're going to hit a

0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:24.680
<v Speaker 3>home run in this series. You are, And he's like,

0:37:24.840 --> 0:37:27.799
<v Speaker 3>I'm not playing, I'm not kidding up. She's like, you're

0:37:27.800 --> 0:37:30.000
<v Speaker 3>going to hit a home run tonight. So I just

0:37:30.000 --> 0:37:33.359
<v Speaker 3>thought it was It was just everything. The announcing the

0:37:33.400 --> 0:37:37.719
<v Speaker 3>imagery Fox the Blue Jays, I mean Blue Jays over

0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:40.279
<v Speaker 3>under was like seventy eight and a half. Talk about

0:37:40.320 --> 0:37:42.440
<v Speaker 3>a team that just mashed and overachieved.

0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:52.600
<v Speaker 2>Good for them.

0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:56.360
<v Speaker 3>Let's pivot now to the Bears. Sure they got the

0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:59.439
<v Speaker 3>coach in the quarterback, the defense stinks. We still don't

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:02.960
<v Speaker 3>like the owner, the front office. I doubt I love

0:38:03.000 --> 0:38:06.760
<v Speaker 3>the coach. The quarterbacks super talented. There's a lot that they're

0:38:06.760 --> 0:38:10.000
<v Speaker 3>not doing right, like a political party. The Bears now

0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:12.960
<v Speaker 3>lead the NFL in big plays. That's good for me,

0:38:13.640 --> 0:38:17.759
<v Speaker 3>and isn't it. They're a flawed team from ownership down.

0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:20.279
<v Speaker 3>But they got the two things that appears right.

0:38:21.280 --> 0:38:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, there's no question. I mean the one I always

0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:26.279
<v Speaker 1>say is it's a fun turn of phrase. Is like

0:38:27.120 --> 0:38:30.279
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals were the Bungles until they got Joe Burrow.

0:38:30.480 --> 0:38:33.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, the Chiefs didn't win a single game with

0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:35.960
<v Speaker 1>the quarterback they drafted since Todd Blackledge and then it

0:38:36.000 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 1>was Patrick Mahomes, you know, So like it can change

0:38:40.520 --> 0:38:44.640
<v Speaker 1>on a dime. And I find it to be amazing

0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:49.239
<v Speaker 1>that the Bears are fourth and rushing fourth in yards,

0:38:49.640 --> 0:38:52.960
<v Speaker 1>sixth and scoring crazy back in and explosive plays, and

0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:58.279
<v Speaker 1>everyone's like, is Caleb good? I'm like, listen, and by

0:38:58.320 --> 0:39:00.440
<v Speaker 1>the way, to be fair, to be fair as someone

0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:03.200
<v Speaker 1>who's watched every snap of every game closer than any

0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:07.440
<v Speaker 1>team in the NFL, like they got some of those

0:39:07.480 --> 0:39:11.719
<v Speaker 1>numbers got fat against Dallas and Cincinnati, objectively true. And

0:39:11.800 --> 0:39:15.600
<v Speaker 1>some of the explosive play stuff is running game based,

0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:18.680
<v Speaker 1>and they've been much better running out of the by Washington,

0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:23.560
<v Speaker 1>New Orleans, Baltimore and then the game last week. But

0:39:24.040 --> 0:39:26.399
<v Speaker 1>so it's not all because of Caleb. Caleb's not playing

0:39:26.440 --> 0:39:28.520
<v Speaker 1>as well as Drake Many. Caleb's not playing as well

0:39:28.560 --> 0:39:31.439
<v Speaker 1>as Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes. But if you told

0:39:31.480 --> 0:39:37.520
<v Speaker 1>me twenty five games into his career, on his third

0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:40.719
<v Speaker 1>play caller and second head coach, that they would have,

0:39:40.920 --> 0:39:43.759
<v Speaker 1>by the numbers, a top ten offense and a winning

0:39:43.800 --> 0:39:48.279
<v Speaker 1>record in year two. One hundred percent of Bears fans

0:39:48.320 --> 0:39:49.239
<v Speaker 1>would have signed up for it.

0:39:49.719 --> 0:39:52.440
<v Speaker 3>That's what I always tell whenever my wife's, you know,

0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:56.359
<v Speaker 3>getting a little concerned about our kids. I'm like, if

0:39:56.400 --> 0:39:58.880
<v Speaker 3>i'd have told you twenty years ago when we met,

0:39:59.239 --> 0:40:01.120
<v Speaker 3>none of them would be in jail, none would have

0:40:01.120 --> 0:40:03.480
<v Speaker 3>a drug problem, We'd have a vacation home and a

0:40:03.560 --> 0:40:05.680
<v Speaker 3>nice house, and our kids would still call us. Would

0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:07.439
<v Speaker 3>you have signed up for it? Yes, then don't worry

0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:12.239
<v Speaker 3>about tomorrow. It's all good. Think about this. So my

0:40:12.440 --> 0:40:16.600
<v Speaker 3>take is every NFL offense as a whole. Let me

0:40:16.600 --> 0:40:19.160
<v Speaker 3>give an example. I'm gonna give you the best offenses

0:40:19.200 --> 0:40:23.160
<v Speaker 3>in the NFL two weeks ago. What you thought Green

0:40:23.239 --> 0:40:27.200
<v Speaker 3>Bay today? They have no offensive identity. These are the

0:40:27.200 --> 0:40:31.080
<v Speaker 3>better offenses the Rams Pukazoa was hurt and Stafford has

0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:35.920
<v Speaker 3>no mobility. Philadelphia depends on the game in the half.

0:40:36.800 --> 0:40:42.920
<v Speaker 3>Denver terrible offense for three quarters every single game. San

0:40:43.000 --> 0:40:48.800
<v Speaker 3>Francisco battle line totally Christian McCaffrey dependent. Indianapolis. Does anybody

0:40:48.840 --> 0:40:52.200
<v Speaker 3>like Daniel Jones. I just named the good offenses in

0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:55.839
<v Speaker 3>the NFL, right right. So the truth is, we pay

0:40:55.920 --> 0:40:58.920
<v Speaker 3>so much attention to offense, Danny, and I'm guilty of this.

0:40:59.160 --> 0:41:07.120
<v Speaker 3>We nitpick the Bears, big plays, run the ball, well coached, taken, no.

0:41:07.040 --> 0:41:12.759
<v Speaker 1>Doubt, no doubt, and and I have I came into

0:41:12.800 --> 0:41:16.919
<v Speaker 1>the year with optimism, but with zero percent like they're

0:41:16.920 --> 0:41:21.319
<v Speaker 1>a contender or they're gonna win the Super Bowl. So

0:41:21.440 --> 0:41:23.959
<v Speaker 1>to me, this season has been it's been a little

0:41:23.960 --> 0:41:26.640
<v Speaker 1>bit of a heart attack inducing. I might say some

0:41:26.680 --> 0:41:30.000
<v Speaker 1>things during these Bear games that if like anyone other

0:41:30.080 --> 0:41:32.239
<v Speaker 1>than like Nick right was next to me, I'd be like,

0:41:32.840 --> 0:41:35.319
<v Speaker 1>that might get me canceled. Uh you know what I mean.

0:41:35.360 --> 0:41:39.399
<v Speaker 1>Like it's a stressful watch. But I have no illusions

0:41:39.440 --> 0:41:43.080
<v Speaker 1>that this is a great team. Like the defense is flawed,

0:41:43.480 --> 0:41:47.279
<v Speaker 1>the quarterback is young, it's a new system that they've got.

0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:50.880
<v Speaker 1>They've had serious left tackle questions. Their two best cornerbacks

0:41:50.880 --> 0:41:53.160
<v Speaker 1>are hurt. We don't know if Jalen Johnson is coming

0:41:53.200 --> 0:41:55.960
<v Speaker 1>back like this year, he'll come back eventually, obviously, Like

0:41:56.200 --> 0:41:58.799
<v Speaker 1>they're not gonna win the Super Bowl. They probably won't

0:41:58.800 --> 0:42:00.919
<v Speaker 1>make the playoffs, though they might we'll see because weird

0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:03.960
<v Speaker 1>things happen in the NFL. But again, like, do you

0:42:04.000 --> 0:42:07.600
<v Speaker 1>have the coaching quarterback? I can work with that. Yeah.

0:42:08.040 --> 0:42:11.440
<v Speaker 1>Because they also it's not just like they got a

0:42:11.440 --> 0:42:14.560
<v Speaker 1>lot of talent. I hear this all the time, like, oh,

0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:18.040
<v Speaker 1>Doonsay is talented? Loveland is talented. They're right. Tackle Darnell

0:42:18.120 --> 0:42:20.439
<v Speaker 1>right looks like a stud for you.

0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:23.200
<v Speaker 3>Andre Swift is an excellent top twelve back.

0:42:23.680 --> 0:42:26.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, manung guy who has been has been great the

0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:28.319
<v Speaker 1>last you know, game and a half since Swift has

0:42:28.360 --> 0:42:32.280
<v Speaker 1>been hurt. Looks looks good that they they have pieces,

0:42:32.360 --> 0:42:35.640
<v Speaker 1>they have talent, and they are clearly on the up

0:42:35.640 --> 0:42:41.200
<v Speaker 1>and up. And Caleb he gives them a ceiling that

0:42:41.440 --> 0:42:44.760
<v Speaker 1>feels kind of limitless because of how crazy the physical

0:42:44.800 --> 0:42:47.879
<v Speaker 1>talent is. Like if Ben Johnson can actually get him

0:42:47.920 --> 0:42:51.520
<v Speaker 1>to be ninety percent of what his talent suggests that

0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:53.759
<v Speaker 1>he should be, the Bears are going to be good

0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:57.160
<v Speaker 1>for the next decade. Darnald's an amazing story. We were

0:42:57.160 --> 0:42:58.359
<v Speaker 1>talking about this in the show today.

0:42:58.360 --> 0:43:01.160
<v Speaker 3>I said, you see all the time where a great actor,

0:43:01.239 --> 0:43:05.560
<v Speaker 3>Tom Hanks takes a bad movie the Terminal, and you're like, oh,

0:43:05.640 --> 0:43:07.799
<v Speaker 3>Marlon Brando did that. You'd have you know, on the

0:43:07.840 --> 0:43:11.799
<v Speaker 3>waterfront and he had six bombs. You see great restaurants

0:43:11.880 --> 0:43:14.560
<v Speaker 3>lose a chef, they go from Michelin star to just

0:43:14.560 --> 0:43:18.759
<v Speaker 3>a really good restaurant. You never see terrible hot dog

0:43:18.840 --> 0:43:21.480
<v Speaker 3>and a stick becomes zaggat rated. Like, that's not the

0:43:21.480 --> 0:43:24.800
<v Speaker 3>way it works. There is no terrible to great from actors.

0:43:24.840 --> 0:43:28.439
<v Speaker 3>You're either like straight to video. Lindsay Lohan doesn't become

0:43:28.480 --> 0:43:32.720
<v Speaker 3>Meryl Streep. It doesn't work that way. Except Sam Darnald,

0:43:33.040 --> 0:43:35.839
<v Speaker 3>it's not. Denny was terrible, then he became pretty good

0:43:35.840 --> 0:43:38.440
<v Speaker 3>because Baker won a playoff game and in that year

0:43:38.480 --> 0:43:42.200
<v Speaker 3>had a ninety six passer writing. He was never terrible, right.

0:43:42.040 --> 0:43:45.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Daniel Jones got a second contract. D Daniel

0:43:45.719 --> 0:43:49.719
<v Speaker 1>Jones won a playoff game. Sam Darnald was terrible, but

0:43:49.800 --> 0:43:54.160
<v Speaker 1>he also like what did he have forty starts? Thirty

0:43:54.239 --> 0:43:57.160
<v Speaker 1>thirty five, thirty eight starts? Like it wasn't like that

0:43:57.400 --> 0:43:59.279
<v Speaker 1>large of a body of work. He came into the

0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:02.799
<v Speaker 1>league at t one. He was so young to think

0:44:02.840 --> 0:44:05.440
<v Speaker 1>about that. He came into the league. Yeah, four years

0:44:05.440 --> 0:44:06.120
<v Speaker 1>into the league.

0:44:06.120 --> 0:44:10.560
<v Speaker 3>He was younger than guys that were getting drafted, right, Yeah.

0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:12.960
<v Speaker 1>And that's I mean that's like, like I think Trevor

0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Lawrence and Michael Pennox are the same age. Like right now,

0:44:17.000 --> 0:44:19.520
<v Speaker 1>it's just like a weird It's like a weird thing

0:44:19.560 --> 0:44:23.000
<v Speaker 1>to have to deal with. And so yeah, like, to me,

0:44:23.160 --> 0:44:25.520
<v Speaker 1>the most interesting part of this is, I mean, obviously

0:44:25.560 --> 0:44:28.080
<v Speaker 1>the Donald story is incredible, and I think, yeah, Seattle

0:44:28.120 --> 0:44:29.680
<v Speaker 1>is the only team in the NFL right now top

0:44:29.680 --> 0:44:31.719
<v Speaker 1>five in offense and top five in defense, Like we

0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:34.120
<v Speaker 1>have to treat them as real. I did not believe

0:44:34.160 --> 0:44:36.520
<v Speaker 1>in that Vikings team last year. I'm just not gonna

0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:40.839
<v Speaker 1>I do believe in this Seahawks team. But I want

0:44:40.840 --> 0:44:44.640
<v Speaker 1>to know what teams are gonna do, Like are the

0:44:44.719 --> 0:44:48.240
<v Speaker 1>Colts not gonna give up on Anthony Richardson, Like obviously

0:44:48.360 --> 0:44:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Daniel Jones is working. They just traded for Sauce Gardner.

0:44:51.400 --> 0:44:54.000
<v Speaker 1>They're all in. They'll probably franchise tag Daniel Jones, I

0:44:54.040 --> 0:44:57.120
<v Speaker 1>would imagine. But is the lesson that these teams are

0:44:57.160 --> 0:45:02.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna take from Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield and Daniel

0:45:02.160 --> 0:45:05.520
<v Speaker 1>Jones being like we can't give up on guys like

0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:08.000
<v Speaker 1>we don't have to play them, but we cannot give

0:45:08.080 --> 0:45:11.120
<v Speaker 1>up on talent, Like if we truly believe that there

0:45:11.200 --> 0:45:14.400
<v Speaker 1>is a franchise quarterback in here. It would be it

0:45:14.400 --> 0:45:18.839
<v Speaker 1>would haunt me if I'm a Browns fan to see

0:45:18.840 --> 0:45:22.080
<v Speaker 1>Baker Mayfield doing this, or if I'm a Panther fan

0:45:22.520 --> 0:45:25.600
<v Speaker 1>to see Baker Mayfield and Sam and Sam Darnold doing this.

0:45:25.880 --> 0:45:27.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how how you go to sleep, go

0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:28.359
<v Speaker 1>to sleep at night?

0:45:28.760 --> 0:45:30.880
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so what a what a Baker and Sam have

0:45:31.000 --> 0:45:35.320
<v Speaker 3>in common? Baker went to Cleveland and then Carolina poorly

0:45:35.400 --> 0:45:41.240
<v Speaker 3>run teams, and then McVeigh said, I like him. Okay, okay,

0:45:41.400 --> 0:45:45.160
<v Speaker 3>Sam jets Carolina. Then Kyle Shanahan's like I like him

0:45:45.800 --> 0:45:48.719
<v Speaker 3>is that it could be in venture capitalism, it can

0:45:48.760 --> 0:45:51.759
<v Speaker 3>be on Wall Street, it can be in sports. The

0:45:51.880 --> 0:45:57.000
<v Speaker 3>smart take from the less skilled and the less smart

0:45:57.280 --> 0:46:00.239
<v Speaker 3>is that the smartest people in the NFL. Dan Neil

0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:04.319
<v Speaker 3>Jones goes from the shipwreck known as the New York

0:46:04.320 --> 0:46:10.719
<v Speaker 3>Giants and Kevin O'Connell in season Vulture circles all take him,

0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:13.560
<v Speaker 3>and then from there Shane Steiken goes, no, all take him.

0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:17.040
<v Speaker 3>Is that there's a handful of super smart offensive guys

0:46:17.600 --> 0:46:20.840
<v Speaker 3>and they look at all these the smart people figure

0:46:20.880 --> 0:46:23.359
<v Speaker 3>out who can play and who can't. And by the way,

0:46:23.400 --> 0:46:28.000
<v Speaker 3>Kyle Shanahan looked at Mac Jones, shocker, Belichick didn't get him.

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<v Speaker 3>Jacksonville stumbled, oh, what a shock. Shanahan's like, actually, throws

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<v Speaker 3>are really good ball. I think we'll take him. There's

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<v Speaker 3>about eight guys in this league now, maybe ten, but eight,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're really smart. They're with winning organizations. And this

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<v Speaker 3>happens in every walk of life. They go to the

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<v Speaker 3>bad organizations with worst gms, bad scouts, lousy coaches, lousy coordinators,

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<v Speaker 3>scouting directors that are suboptimal, and they just raid them.

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<v Speaker 3>Almost all of these reclamation projects started with bad franchises

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<v Speaker 3>and get picked up by the artist gms in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but the bad franchises don't believe that they're bad,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, it's delusional. Like so you're right, But

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<v Speaker 1>Sean McVay can't sign everybody, Kyle Shanahan can't sign everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's some I just I don't know what I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Richardson's a decent example. And listen, Shane Steiken might

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<v Speaker 1>just be an awesome coach, like won eight games and

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<v Speaker 1>nine games with Gardner Minshew and Anthony Richardson and has

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<v Speaker 1>a shot at the one seed with Daniel Jones, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like Shane Steiken might just be the next name that

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<v Speaker 1>we need to include with Andy Reid and McVeigh and

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<v Speaker 1>Shannan is right, it's it's that is that is certainly

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<v Speaker 1>on the board. But then my guess is two years

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<v Speaker 1>from now, Anthony Richardson is still a cult. They'll just

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<v Speaker 1>be like, why I give up on him, Like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll just we'll keep him, We'll keep developing him. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna we drafted him fourth overall. He can run like

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<v Speaker 1>Lamar Jackson, but he's built like Cam Newton, like he's

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<v Speaker 1>got an arm like Herbert, Like, we're gonna just see

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<v Speaker 1>if we can develop him between the years and slow

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<v Speaker 1>the game down for him. So it'll just be interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to me to see if teams, instead of like cutting

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<v Speaker 1>guys loose, be like we'll just we'll sit you for

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<v Speaker 1>a little while, like we're not gonna We're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>let the Baker Mayfield story happen to us, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a painful thing for an organization to go through

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<v Speaker 1>to like to see you you drafted the right guy,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's not and then he's awesome elsewhere so like

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<v Speaker 1>the only It's on you. It's just got to be

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<v Speaker 1>such a shameful feeling for those organizations. The volume