1 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: Well, good morning everyone, and welcome to Between the Horns. 2 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: It's a week eighteen edition and it's presented by your 3 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: Southern California Toyota Dealers, as always proud partner of the 4 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 1: La Rams. I'm JB Long m JD. Sometimes you just 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: need to take two. Let's hoping this is the one. Hey, listen, 6 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: I'm all forward, man. However long it takes, let's get 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: to this week. The week is flying by, is almost Sunday, 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: and there's so much on the line. I can't wait 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: to see how the Rams will form. All right, and 10 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: DeMarco far our Super Bowl champion, is with US forty 11 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: nine ers. Week always highlights his calendar, but especially when 12 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: all of the stakes are on the line to Marco 13 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: and NFC West Crown and the number two seed in 14 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: the NFC with a win. I'm trying to keep the 15 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: ladder in mind, JB. But you know it's it's all 16 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: about I can't stand them and I can't stand losing 17 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: to them. And I hope, I hope I properly conveyed 18 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: that to all the young guys coming through like it 19 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: was conveyed to me. This is a different week, This 20 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: is San Francis go week. This is forty nine a week, 21 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: get right, no smiles, all business. And because it is 22 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: such an important week, we have a special guest our 23 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two NFL Hall of Fame finalist Tory Holt. 24 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: There he is, Tory. Great to see you, man, Congratulations, 25 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: this is the year. Thank you man. I appreciate it. 26 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: I am. I'm super excited. I'm pumped up, very thankful, 27 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: very humble to be a Hall of Fame finalist in 28 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two is my third straight year and shouts 29 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: out to DeMarco who's a teammate of mine, and all 30 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: of my teammates and coaches that have helped me, and 31 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: as well as Morey's Jones Drew who I played with 32 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: down in Jacksonville, all the guys that I played with 33 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: and competed with, all helping me to get to this point. Man. 34 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: So I'm extremely excited. And as you said, Jab, this 35 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: is my year. I believe it, and I mean we 36 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,559 Speaker 1: all wish it had happened sooner. I think it should happen. 37 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: If it is twenty two, if it's the year the 38 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: Rams host a Super Bowl, and that Holt goes in 39 00:01:58,440 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, all good. Right, it was death 40 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: to be Yeah, I mean that. I mean that's like 41 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: a storybook ending, right, being drafted to Saint Louis Rams, 42 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: and then you know the Super Bowls that we've all 43 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: participated in, the Super Bowls, this team, the LA Rams 44 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: that participated in and then now the super Bowl being 45 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. We got a damn good football team 46 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: that sin and I think that has all of the talent, 47 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: all the ability, just as any other teams to participate 48 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, but doing it in Los Angeles 49 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: and then the Hall of Fame and all that's there, 50 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: it will be like a storybook ending for sure. Awesome. 51 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick lap around the horn 52 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: and tie up Baltimore. Right that come from behind win 53 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: for the second week in a row. The Rams overcome 54 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: three giveaways, this time not taking the lead until their 55 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: final offensive drive. More race back to you, what do 56 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: they prove to themselves? Where do they prove to you 57 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: as they pursue this NFCU West Crown, Well, first thing 58 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: is you prove that you could win ugly and winning 59 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: is hard no matter how you do it. But you 60 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: found a way to win, like you said, overcoming those 61 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: three turnovers. But there's three things that I took from it. 62 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: The defense playing really well, giving you opportunities, multiple opportunities 63 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: to come back, stopping the run affecting the quarterback. They 64 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: need an awesome job with that. The running game balancing 65 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: out this offense when they needed it. Sony Michelle showing 66 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 1: up to get that touchdown was huge. And then, last 67 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: but not least, the stars. The stars showed up in Baltimore. 68 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: Baltimore is not known for, you know, all these stars 69 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: to be all over the place, but Odell Beckham, Junior, 70 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup, Aaron Donald, Von Miller, Jayalen Ramsey all showed up, 71 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: and they showed up big DeMarco. We need the real 72 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford to stand up, right, I mean perfect in 73 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: the second half after some early missques. Is he getting 74 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: them all out of his system before before the Niners 75 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: come to town? What are we thinking about about nine man? 76 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: I hope so, I really do, And I think this 77 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: is the Matthew Stafford. We're just gonna have to live 78 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: with it. You know, he's the guy that you know, 79 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: he's aggressive and sometimes that spills over in trying to 80 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: do too much some of those things, like we said. 81 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: Some of those picks he threw, they're great up until 82 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: the ball left his hand. I mean just some you know, 83 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: real elite quarterback play and then just a bad decision 84 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: or you just missed one or there. But then to 85 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: see his grit in the fourth quarter, in the second 86 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: half in particular to bring it back and to not 87 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: allow Baltimore to get that victory, to bring the team back. 88 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: That's not an easy place to win down there. And 89 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: when you threw the turnover, we talked about this, that's 90 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: gonna take you three and a half quarters to dig 91 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: yourself out of that turnover. That's how hardball coaches. And 92 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: they did that. They had to be letter perfect for 93 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: long stretches and they were. They got the ball in 94 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: the end zone. Their defense, like Maurice said, helped help 95 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 1: them out. But Matthew Stafford turning it around, Yeah, I 96 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: like the one that finished the game, not the one 97 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: that started the game. Yeah, Tory, which of those jay 98 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: catches were more impressive to the fourth down conversion of 99 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: the touchdown? The fourth down conversion fourth and five and 100 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: what I thought Odell Beckham did a good job and 101 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: he saw Matthew Stafford scan the fielding and come back 102 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: to him late there. But I thought he did a 103 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: really good job of netting the sticks. It was fourth 104 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: and five. He went at least six or seven yards 105 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: and stepped back to six or five in order to 106 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: get that first down, and then he did it with 107 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: a guy hanging all over him and showing all hands. 108 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: So Odell Beckham with that grab, and I tweeted it 109 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: out with that grab, he is now on my all 110 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: hands team. He'll join Cooper Cup, You're join Robert Woods, 111 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: You're joining the mecham Easy and some of the guys 112 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: that are on their team. But I thought it was 113 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: an outstanding job about Odell Beckham of understanding the sticks, 114 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: netting the sticks and then just showing aggressive, strong hands 115 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,679 Speaker 1: to complete that catch. Can I ask a question, Jab, 116 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: how good do you think obj can be? Tori? Because 117 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's one thing to see him from afar, 118 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: seeing him up close he's bigger than what you think, 119 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: and then watching him play man, This dude's he's legit 120 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: and his hands how good can he be? Yeah? His 121 00:05:58,160 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: hands are phenomenal. I mean he had some of the 122 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: better set of hands in the National Football League. It's 123 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: been that way for a long time. You think back 124 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: to the grab that he had with the New York Giants. 125 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: His hands are fantastic. But I think Odell can be 126 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: as good as he wants to be in this offense. 127 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: It's an offense that's receiver friendly. He can still run, 128 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: he can still get off the line in scrimmage. He 129 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: can still penetrate the defense pretty quickly, fairly quickly. He 130 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: can run all routes, double moves include it. And then 131 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: he as a coordinator and Sean McVeigh that I think 132 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: can draw up things that are favorable for him. And 133 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: then Matthew Stafford, as we know you guys have mentioned it, 134 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: as aggressive as he is, can make all throws on 135 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: the football field. So I think Odell Beckham is fine 136 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: as long as he continues to stay engaged, continue to work. 137 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: You see the communication that he and Matthew staff are 138 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: having on the sideline. To me, that is a positive 139 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: sign that Odell Beckham as this season goes on, starting 140 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: on Sunday, and as they make their way into the playoffs, 141 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: I think you're going to see him continue to make 142 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: big plays for this football team. All Right, while we're 143 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: talking receivers, let's talk triple Crown too, Maurice. A small 144 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: handful of players have ever won this honor outright Cooper Cup, 145 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: and in fact he's just the fourth and since the 146 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: merger in the Super Bowl era to do it. He's 147 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: got huge leads in all the categories. We said last 148 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: week he may not need to make another catch to 149 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: complete the triple crown. In the context of Sunday's game. 150 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,559 Speaker 1: How significant is this to you? I think this is huge. 151 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: When you own a championship run, you need the superstar, 152 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: you need the playmakers to go out there and make plays. 153 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: And you talk about it. In that ninety nine year 154 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: where the Rams one Tory made huge plays, Isaac Bruke 155 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: may he plays Marshall Folk broke records in that year. 156 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: You need a guy that's going to break records and 157 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: to have Cooper Cup and do the things that he's 158 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: been able to do throughout the course of his career 159 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: and then for it to kind of be magnet ties 160 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: right now where you're seeing all of him. We're not 161 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: just seeing him run the option round out of the slot. 162 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: You're seeing him, you know, be in the backfield a 163 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: lot of different things that we haven't been able to see. 164 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: And so for me, it is huge, and it's part 165 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: of this journey. And I think again, when you look 166 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: at what the Bucks did last year, Tom Brady broke 167 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: a lot of records. Last year. We didn't really talk 168 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: about him, but he broke a lot of records on 169 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: the way to a super Bowl the Kanci Chiefs where 170 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: they went the one the year before. I guess who 171 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: broke a lot of records, Patrick Mahomes. And so when 172 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: you have a guy that that continues to play at 173 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: a high level for a whole season, it's part of 174 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: that journey of going there, and it's it's one of 175 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: the reasons you make it to the Super Bowl. And 176 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: as far as you go, Tory, I've been watching you 177 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: root for him all season, throughout his career. It feels 178 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: like you want him to finish this, even if it 179 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: takes an eighteenth game or an eighteenth week or seventeenth 180 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: game to do it. Yeah. Absolutely, I'm a huge fan 181 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: of Cooper cup. I was out, you know, out in 182 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles a couple of weeks ago and had 183 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 1: a chance to sit down and spend some time with him. Man, 184 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: and you know, his physical talents we obviously see, but 185 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: the mental part of it is what I had an 186 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: opportunity to to chat with him about and how he 187 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: sees and breaks down the game that gives him the 188 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: opportunity or he had allows him the ability to get 189 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: open at a rapid rate. You know, Cooper Cup was 190 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: when he was in university yea, he was a full 191 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: time first team All American. He was very very ductive 192 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: in university, and and and it's carried on to the 193 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: National Football League. And as I mentioned, Odell Beckham been 194 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: in a favorable position. As all those offensive guys are 195 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: in favorite position, Cooper Cup is as well because Sean 196 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: McVay knows how to use it. You can line him 197 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: up in the slot, he can play outside, you can 198 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: line him up in the backfield, getting mismatches with him 199 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: in linebackers or safeties that are box safeties. So they're 200 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: doing a good job of putting him, putting him in 201 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: positions to win. But it's his physical physical mentality that 202 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: to me, is gotten him to this point. Think about it, 203 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: Triple Crown. Think about how strong this guy is from 204 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: the core down to be able to every single weekend 205 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: run the way that he runs, make people miss run 206 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: every route. This dude is physically physical and mentally tough, 207 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: and we are witnessing history. And I think this weekend, 208 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: if it's the forty nine is it's a meaningful game. 209 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: Everybody's playing it's best on best. So I think you'll 210 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:01,719 Speaker 1: see Cooper Cup at his best this weekend against the 211 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,599 Speaker 1: forty nine ers. See j B let me jump that. 212 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: This is where I'm trying. I'm struggling, Tea, and I 213 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: need your help. Um, Where do I slot him? Because 214 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: the gold standard for me, and I'm sure it was 215 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: for you. I know it was rising because we talked 216 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: about it was Jerry Rice the receiver's receiver. What Cooper 217 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: Cup is doing is different. You know, he's blocking, he's 218 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: he's a football player. So I think the more impressive 219 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: thing for for for me with Cooper Cup is his 220 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 1: run after catch and how physical he is. So I mean, 221 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: I don't know where to slot him. I know what 222 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 1: I want to say, but I can't say it. Well. 223 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: I mean, boy, that's a bad dude, you know what 224 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: I'm saying. No question. I mean when you think about 225 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 1: the history of our league and you guys are all 226 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: mentioned a triple crown, I mean, Jerry Rice, Sterling sharp 227 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: did it? Steve Smith did it, now, Cooper Cups did it, so, 228 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson did it. So you gotta rank him up 229 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: there as one of the best singles. Obviously one of 230 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: the best single season um season that we've seen from 231 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: a wide receiver when you legit, really, I know, people say, well, 232 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: he's had seventeen games. Well, I mean that's something that 233 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: he can't control. What he can control is going out 234 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: every single weekend. Teams know that he's going to get 235 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: the football and he steal delivers to me and to me, 236 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: that in itself is more impressive than the numbers are 237 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: going to take care of themselves. But that, to me 238 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: is more oppressive than anything. Teams know that he's going 239 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: to get the football, and he still goes out in 240 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: perm right, he still goes out and performs at the 241 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: very I love him, DeMarco. You mentioned his ability to block. 242 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: He loves blocking. One of the things that I had 243 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 1: in the Scotter report with Cooper cup Is and a 244 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 1: lot of folks don't know this about him, is he's 245 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: a tough football player. Like he likes to mix it up. 246 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: He's six to two hundred and ten pounds. He's not 247 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: a small guy. He loves mixing it up and that 248 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: helps him in the passing game. Is well, he understands 249 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: if I'm good running, if I'm good blocking and setting 250 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: things up in the run game, is ultimately going to 251 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: help me in the passing game. And we see that 252 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: weekend and week out. Last thing here, I was on 253 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 1: the field walking around with my buddy who was a 254 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: special team's coach for the Baltimore Ravens, and when he 255 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: saw Cooper Cup, he was like, brother, that ain't him, 256 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: is it? I said, Bro, Bigger than what you think. Yeah, 257 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 1: he's not a little dude. But you know again, when 258 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: you you you gotta think when you look at him 259 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: and you see him on tape and you realize he's 260 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: in the slot. Who's in the slot? Smaller guys, Quicker guys, 261 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: they don't put those guys in their Cooper Cup does 262 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: a lot, a little bit of everything, and he does 263 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: it really well. So I think that is what makes it. Again. 264 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: He blocks defensive ends. He's not afraid of a crime. 265 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: He's your leading blocker on most runs when they're when 266 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: when he's blocking Versona Michelle in the ende, so he's 267 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: blocking defensive ends. So to me, I think, yes, the 268 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: Triple Crown Award is well deserved, but they need to 269 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: make one for an all around football player that does 270 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 1: everything because he should win that one as well. And 271 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: to him to Maurice his football IQ. I think coach 272 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: was talking about how he saw something in the field 273 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: in the in the game and it opened up. He 274 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: saw where another receiver on the team would be open, 275 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: and he talked to coach about it and coaching up 276 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: calling it. He's trying not only to get himself involved, 277 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: He's getting everybody else involved in and I think it's 278 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: going to take more than just Cooper Cup as they 279 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: go down to stretch to win it. And I like 280 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: thee I like the fact that he is seeing beyond 281 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: himself and seeing everything else for his teammates and saying 282 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: to coach, hey, let's get this person the ball. We 283 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: may be able to do this, or we may be 284 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: able to do that. To me, I just love his 285 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: football IQ, his unselfishness, the mark he could have played 286 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: with us, man I could have played with us. The 287 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: way that he approaches the weather, he approaches the game, 288 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 1: and how unselfish he is. He's a guy that can 289 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: play in any era of football because as you guys 290 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: have mentioned he is a true football player. But here's 291 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: the problem, which which you guy you're putting on the 292 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: bench for him? Well, that me sure, and I know 293 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: Isaac is gonna say the same thing, and Odds and 294 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: everybody else is gonna say that. Rickey, everybody's gonna say 295 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: the same thing. So those guys that have to battle 296 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: that out. But it definitely ain't gonna be me, as 297 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: we're going to be asked about this season for the 298 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: rest of our careers, right, And so I think there's 299 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: a case you made. It's one of the best receiving 300 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: seasons in NFL history. Comparing across generations is very difficult 301 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: to do, so I think where I'm gonna land is 302 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: the most complete receiving season that I've ever witnessed. And 303 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: for all of the touchdowns and all of the catches 304 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: and all of the yards, I go back to Thursday 305 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: Night Football at Seattle in Week five when he dug 306 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: Jamal Adams out of that hole and paved the way 307 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: for Darryl Henderson to run into the red zone and 308 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: eventually lead to a touchdown. That's taking on your division 309 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: rival and a guy that they traded first round capital 310 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: for and erasing him and doing a part of your 311 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: job that's not necessarily one that gets you paid or 312 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: that gets you these accolades. But to me, that's kind 313 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: of emblematic of the season and the career that he's had. 314 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: Now we do need to get to the Niners, and 315 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: I know we're gonna talk a lot of defense there, 316 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: but one other thought on offense and MJD. I'll send 317 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: it your way for the return of cam Akers. Five 318 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: months move from an achilles. Now he joins the team 319 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: for their regular season finale. And for all the good 320 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: that Sony Michelle has done, and he's done a ton, 321 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: cam Akers is different and one two. I love them together. JB. 322 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just in awe, right, I'm in awe 323 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: the fact that you tear your achilles this summer and 324 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: you're back playing by January, and the way modern medicine 325 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: and the way surgeries are going, and all those things 326 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: that have someone back to be able to play in 327 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: the playoffs, and then his true grit. I've been following 328 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: him this whole time, his whole journey, right the time 329 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: in the treatment room, the time in with the trainers, 330 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: and then in the in the film room, studying and 331 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: understanding that you have a chance, not saying that you 332 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: can do it, but you got a chance to make 333 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: it right, and then making that chance come true. His 334 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: running style, his ability is gonna be great. All the 335 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: reports that he's going to play against some carries this 336 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: week to kind of get his legs going. I think 337 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: that's huge. And then guess what you'll get Darryl Henderson 338 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: back to Now you have a three headed monster going 339 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: into the playoffs. That's gonna be tough to deal with. 340 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: What about the move the Rams made to you know, 341 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: open his window with three games to go in the 342 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: regular season, probably knowing that he wasn't going to return 343 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: this all this week or next, but making sure he 344 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: gets that accruel for later in life, Like what that 345 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: might mean to him as a professional. Do you think 346 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: that makes way like that gets attention around the league, 347 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: that that helps build your reputation for things like free agency. 348 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: It's less about the league, It's more about the guys 349 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: in that locker room, right, because we're in there're you 350 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: got guys in there fighting their butts off, right, and 351 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: and you know what, the business side is gonna take 352 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: care of the business side. The BUSINESSID is always gonna 353 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: take care the business. You may be here, you may not. 354 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: But the fact that the Rams were like, listen, we 355 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: want to help you out for down the road when 356 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: you're done playing. That speaks volumes. Let forget the league 357 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: in your locker room. Right, So when you do get 358 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: those free agents coming, guess what guys are gonna talk about. Well, look, 359 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: they're gonna take care of you here in Los Angeles. 360 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: We're not gonna have none of this back and forth, 361 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: all this other stuff going on. They're gonna take care 362 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: of you. If you handle your business, they'll take care 363 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: of you. And that's what cam Makers did and that's 364 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: what the Rams have shown time after time after time. 365 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: They showed him what Robert was who missed it and 366 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: sent hims and they gave him his money anyway because 367 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: he was not even so close. Right Like that that 368 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: speaks volumes. Those things speaks volumes. And I and again, 369 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if the Rams are gonna be big 370 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: in free agency. They never really have. But um, since 371 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: that that first year Sean's kind of been here, they 372 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:19,959 Speaker 1: kind of stayed with the trade and things like that. 373 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: But even with that, the guys in your locker room 374 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: played that much harder because they know you'll take care 375 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: of him. Yeah. No, I agree if and if I 376 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: can echo to that, I totally agree um with with 377 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 1: them JD on that. I mean it just it resonates 378 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: through the locker room and guys want to play for 379 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: the organization. Guys want to play for coach McVeigh because 380 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: they know that he's looking out for their best interests 381 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: beyond the game of football, which I think it's uh. 382 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: I think that message was sent and guys were run 383 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: through a brick wall for an organization or for a 384 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: coach that way when they knew a coach is looking 385 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: out for them in that in that way. So I 386 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: thought it was outstanding. All right, let's get to the 387 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: elephants in the between the horns conversation. Here San Francisco 388 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 1: forty nine Ers. It has been too long since the 389 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: Rams have been right against their biggest rival to Mark, 390 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: but now they collide at SOFI Stadium with a chance 391 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: not only to clinch the division, but maybe if things 392 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: go against the forty nine ers between the Saints and 393 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: the Falcons, to keep San Francisco out of the playoffs altogether, 394 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: that would be great. You know, but rivalry asside, hatred 395 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: aside for a hot minute. If there was ever a 396 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: team that was built to beat the Rams, this is it. 397 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: You know. The Rams have Aaron Donald, one of the 398 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 1: best in the business. The forty nine ers run the football. 399 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: They're great at it. While we waste time trying to 400 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: figure out how to get the right matchup in the 401 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 1: passing game. All they try to do is the subless 402 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 1: way to the end zone. Try to find a way 403 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 1: to get their guard to reach your three technique or 404 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: take them away by tossing the football. So it's tough 405 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 1: to play them offensively and then defensively, speaking the way 406 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: they rushed the passer versus than Andrew Whitworth with Matthew 407 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 1: Stafford Cooper Cup. If you can get tremendous pressure on 408 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: the quarterback, that kind of takes away the passing game. 409 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 1: So division games are always tough. But when you look 410 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: at if you wanted to build the perfect villain for 411 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: what Sean McVay is serving up, it would be them. 412 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: So there's no way to it. You gotta go through them. 413 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 1: You gotta find a way to stop kill. You gotta 414 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: keep Bosa off. Matthew Stafford and you can't turn the 415 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: ball over. This is gonna be tough. They have a 416 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: lot to play for, and so do you. This is 417 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: the worst place to have them, but it's also the 418 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: best place you get through them. I don't think there's 419 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: any stopping you. Your confidence will be through the roof Tory. 420 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: This is a different Rams group than Week ten in 421 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: mid November two. I mean you think back to that game. 422 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: Odell had just arrived, he had no practice under his belt, 423 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: was thrust into a tough situation replacing Robert Woods. Von 424 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: Miller was dressing for the first time. We hardly knew 425 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: that Greg Gaines was going to be the force of 426 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: nature that he's become, and so many other things. But likewise, 427 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: for San Francisco, they're still trying to decide who their 428 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: starting quarterback is going to be, or at least College 429 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: Shanahan hasn't announced that publicly. Yeah, I mean, you know 430 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: the Rams will well. I don't think they're really concerned 431 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: about that. I think it comes back to themselves and 432 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: their preparation this week to go out and be at 433 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: their best. They've lost to this football team five straight times. 434 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 1: This is rivalry week. No one scared of each other 435 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: it's best on best, So to me, it's gonna come down, 436 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 1: It's gonna be physical, it's gonna come down to the 437 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 1: one on one matchups. Who can win the one on 438 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: one match ups longer? And Odell Beckham, yes, it was, 439 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 1: it was. It was fresh when he first played the 440 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: footy nine is he's a different player now. The Rams offensively, 441 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: in my opinion, is different because there's a physical part 442 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: of their football team now, particularly offensively because of what 443 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: Sony Michelle has done in the last five or six 444 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: weeks of how he's ran the football been down ill 445 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: and he's showing you that he can get to the 446 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: edge at time. So I think the Rams are coming 447 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: into this game totally different than what they were what 448 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: was it week team when they played the footing Totally 449 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: different offensively and defensively. And then they've also made some 450 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: plays and special teams. Shouts out to Pow He's made 451 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 1: some plays in special team. So that gives the the 452 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: forty nine ers in my opinion, have more to game 453 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: plan for than what they did in Week ten. And 454 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: then the Rams confidence wise of the last five weeks, 455 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: winning confidences up. And I agree with the Marco if 456 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: they win this game. Certainly their confidence should be off 457 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 1: the change. You were you were you remember what happened 458 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: when we beat them for the first time in ninety nine. Yes, 459 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: it was over from there, absolutely, that was it. It 460 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: was we did. And you know, I was a rookie soul, 461 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: I didn't. I knew we lost seven straight seven. Yeah, 462 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: it was crazy. And I just remember that week leading 463 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: into that game and just how I mean we were. 464 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: We were serious and we had fun and whatnot, and 465 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: intensity was there, but it went to another level that 466 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: week and I just, again as a rookie, I just 467 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: couldn't quite understand it. But as the years went on, 468 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: I understood why guys took it to another level. As 469 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: two football teams that clearly don't like each other both 470 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: have something to play for this weekend, so I'm expecting 471 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: a very physically good football game. Where do you think 472 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: of Debo? Is he on your all hands? Yeah, that's 473 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: that's another dude that's killing it in this division. Yeah, 474 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: he hasn't quite made the All hands team yet, But 475 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuels is a problem. You know. I was on 476 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: myself and Kirk Morrison do a radio show every Wednesday 477 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: called Ram's house and Darius Williams was all last night 478 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: and he was just talking about how much of a 479 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: problem Deebo Samuels can be out of the backfield running 480 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 1: the ball, but in the slot, and Diebo Samus is 481 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: also a guy that they can put out wide at 482 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: the expo z. He has that kind of potential. I 483 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: was at the Senior Bowl and I was actually working 484 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: with the San Francisco forty nine is in their staff 485 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 1: doing a Senior Bowl. So I happen to have a 486 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: chance to see Deebo Samuels every single day. Dude, think guy, 487 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: not tall, think god, very competitive, got a mean streak 488 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: about him. He dominated the Senior Bowl, dominated the Senior 489 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: Bowl every single day in practice. And I knew then, 490 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: I said, at the forty nine ers get an opportunity 491 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,239 Speaker 1: to take him, they're going to take him because they 492 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 1: saw first hand what type of player he was, and 493 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: they saw him in the meeting rooms and in the 494 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 1: film sessions. So no, Deebo SAMs is one of my favorites. 495 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: He is a problem to Rams are going to have 496 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: to make sure they tackle him and get him to 497 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 1: the ground. That's what I said. That's Frank God receiver. Yeah, 498 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: I can dig that. I can dig that or the 499 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: physical element that you brought up with respect of this matchup. 500 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 1: I don't think back in Week ten, the Rams and 501 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: good conscience could have said we have the best offensive 502 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 1: and defensive line combination in the sport. I think as 503 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 1: we wind down this regular season, you can make a 504 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 1: real case run blocking, pass, pro everything front seven for 505 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: the Ram. I think in combination they might have the 506 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: best offensive and defensive front in tandem going into the 507 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: postseason and you can certainly win with that. Don't think 508 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: that was the case back at mid season. And j D, 509 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: because we've got a visual on you for those of 510 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 1: us watching on YouTube or on social platforms, I know 511 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: you can count the concepts that Kyle Shanahan is gonna 512 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: throw at the Rams on one or maybe two hands. 513 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: You go, you go ahead, show us how many are you? 514 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: Are you ready for this? Okay, First, they're gonna run. 515 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: They're gonna line up one way, said Aaron Donald to 516 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: one side, motion, shift to the other side, tall sweep. 517 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: That's one. Then they're gonna put Deebo Samuel in the 518 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: backfield and run inside zone out of shotgun. That's two. 519 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,959 Speaker 1: Passing game, they're gonna run in breaking routes because again 520 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: that's what their quarterbacks throw beasts, right, So that's three 521 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: and then you may get a jet sweep here or there. 522 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: I mean, that's really what we're gonna see in the situation. 523 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: And then in the red zone they're gonna throw corners 524 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: to Kittle. That's all they're gonna do. And I think 525 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: all we've heard is rivalry week. But when you go 526 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: back to it, and if our fans you played high 527 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: school football, you played youth football. When you know someone, 528 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: when you know that opponent, that rival, when you that 529 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,959 Speaker 1: across town school, you know what they're gonna run. Yea. 530 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: It has zero to do with coaching at this point. 531 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: It's all about will and who wants to smash the 532 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,719 Speaker 1: other person. And that's what the Niners did in Week ten. 533 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: If you look at it, they were highlighting kid Pancake 534 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: von Miller, right, they were highlighting Deebo Samuel running through guys. 535 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: They were highlighting all these other things. If you're the Rams, 536 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: and we in the Rams made great adjustments playing the 537 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 1: Cardinals the second time. I can't wait to see what 538 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: adjustments they make this week. Now Von Miller is better 539 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: against the run than he was obviously that first game back. 540 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: The Rams are much more physical offensively and they have 541 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 1: obviously Odell is a little bit more equipped to go 542 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: out there. And we saw if you guys were watching 543 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 1: that Thursday night game against the Tennessee Titans, you saw 544 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: what A J. Brown was able to do against the Niners. 545 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 1: They're just kind of take over the game. You have 546 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: two of those guys that can do it, so I 547 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: expect to see that as well. But at the end 548 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: of the day, it's gonna be about who wants to 549 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: tackle and who wants to block, who wants to run 550 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: into someone full speed over and over again to win 551 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: this game. That's what's gonna come down to. And that's 552 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: what you and DeMarco everyone like, Tor You remember this 553 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: when we played in the Colts. It was like, I'm like, look, 554 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: we already know who we're playing. We're playing Peyton Manning. Okay, 555 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: it is what it is. Who is willing to go 556 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: ahead and run through whoever we got to to win 557 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: this game? Right? And that's the mindset you have to 558 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: have in these rivalry weeks. Um, there's gonna be some 559 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: schematics in there, but you know, the Niners on a 560 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: defense are gonna play man to man, press a man 561 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: or cover three. That's what they're gonna do. They're not 562 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: gonna run anything else. They're gonna rush straight up the field. 563 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: They're gonna try to bull rush you all that stuff. 564 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: That's what you're gonna get. Can't you physically stop that? 565 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: And can't you physically beat that? That's what it's gonna come. 566 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: We had to beat them. Yeah, we had to beat them. 567 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: We had to beat them, or yeah, we just had 568 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 1: to not again Tory last word, final thought on this game. No, 569 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: I'm excited, man. I think it's a great opportunity for 570 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: the Rams being at home. I hope, I hope the 571 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: fans come out um and and show a great there 572 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: go the Marco show a great deal of support to 573 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: this football team. They can certainly use the energy from 574 00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: the crowd and then execution. Can the Rams play offensively 575 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: as the Marco mentioned earlier, as you guys mentioned earlier, 576 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: not turning the football over that someone's been an issue 577 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: with Matthew Stafford here in this five game win streak. 578 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: Can they can they play clean? And then defensively, can 579 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: they tackle those skilled players for the San Francisco food 580 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: and not because, as Mars just mentioned, we know what 581 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna get. You're gonna get a heavy dose of deep. 582 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: We're gonna get a heavy dose of of George Kittle. 583 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: And that's where they're gonna try to beat you. And 584 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: then can the Rams make a play on special teams, 585 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 1: a punt return, a block scoop and score block field 586 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: goals somewhere on special teams, on sidekick recovery, on side 587 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: kick recovery. I think to me, that's that could be 588 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: the difference in this football game. But I'm excited about 589 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 1: the opportunity to this football team has to win clintse 590 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 1: the division, get some home field playoff games, get the 591 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: confidence that they need going into the playoffs. One question 592 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: real quick before we go, Tor, what do you do 593 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: as a receiver when your quarterback is all over the 594 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: place early You need this guy for the rest of 595 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: the game, but he's out of how do you handle 596 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 1: that as a receiver? Well, one, just make sure that 597 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: I'm doing my job and getting open and being available 598 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 1: for him, and then going over and saying you know, 599 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: and talking, not a whole lot of talking, but to say, 600 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: you know, keep it going. Look at some point during 601 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 1: the game, We're gonna need you to make some throws. 602 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: If you need me, I'm available. I'm always available. I 603 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: can help you get out of this rut. But no, 604 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: these guys, he's got enough playmakers around him where he 605 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: does not have to force it. Let the game come 606 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: to him. Coach maybe will put him in favorable situations, 607 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: but he's still got to be aggressive. But he's got 608 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: to be smart with the football. So those are some 609 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: of the things that I would say to him, to Margo, 610 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: and then again making sure as a receiver when we 611 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: do throw the football, that we are making ourselves open 612 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: and available for the QB Hall of Fame finalists, Tory Holtz, 613 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:58,479 Speaker 1: let's get that gold jacket. Yes, thank you guys, and 614 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: thanks to our audience for tuning in this Weeked between 615 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: the Horns presented by Your Southern California at Toyota Dealer's, 616 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: proud partner of the La Rams. 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