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Speaker 1: it's Oregon, it's Michigan and it's Penn State. There are

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Speaker 1: seven teams with win totals of five and a half

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Speaker 1: or lower. That screams secret garbage, a large chunk of

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Speaker 1: it at the bottom of your conference. That doesn't always

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Speaker 1: mean that's how it plays out. So some things that

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Speaker 1: stood out here. There are twelve teams between seven and

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Speaker 1: a half and five and a half. So you got

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Speaker 1: a bunch of Washington's and Iowa in USC's in Wisconsin's.

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Speaker 1: There's just like that huge middle ground there where even

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Speaker 1: odds makers are saying, yeah, I mean, obviously someone's going

437
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Speaker 1: to emerge from here. Someone's not even gonna come close.

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Speaker 1: If you guys think you know better than us, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: So some teams that I think there's gonna be an

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Speaker 1: early underlean on. Michigan at nine and a half is

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Speaker 1: a solid underlean. They face three of the top five

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Speaker 1: teams in the playoff odds. Just pause for effect there.

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Speaker 1: They play Texas, they play Ohio State, and they play Oregon.

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Speaker 1: That's right, folks, Michigan plays Texas at home this upcoming year.

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Speaker 1: Or you could say Texas has to play Michigan in

446
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Speaker 1: addition to joining the SEC this upcoming year. But anyway,

447
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Speaker 1: you got a complete program, reset, you got a quarterback. Reset.

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Speaker 1: Nine and a half's a very very lofty number. I

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Speaker 1: think Michigan early action on the under Iowa at seven

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Speaker 1: and a half, I'd say early action on the under

451
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Speaker 1: here defense does not bring much back for them normally.

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Speaker 1: You've gotten yourself into a mode at least I have

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Speaker 1: of being able to say I don't care. Yeah, they'll

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Speaker 1: average eleven points offensively a game, but they can hold

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Speaker 1: a lot of teams to ten or less, so you

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Speaker 1: know they'll win eight or nine games. Well, maybe not

457
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Speaker 1: so much this year. Kate McNamara didn't have good numbers

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Speaker 1: even when healthy. Last year. They got Iowa State, they

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Speaker 1: got Ohio State, they got Wisconsin. There are no favors done,

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Speaker 1: I guess is the way I would describe Iowa's schedule now.

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Speaker 1: Unders are not fun to talk about. Overs are a

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Speaker 1: little bit more fun to talk about. Could I interest you?

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Speaker 1: Probably not. I wish I could interest you in a

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Speaker 1: very in depth discussion about why Rutgers is going to

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Speaker 1: win more than seven and a half or six and

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Speaker 1: a half games this upcoming year. Maybe seven and a half,

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Speaker 1: we'll see, But the total on Rutgers is six and

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Speaker 1: a half. You know who? They don't play Penn State,

469
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Speaker 1: Ohio State, Oregon, or Michigan or as you may call them,

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Speaker 1: the top four teams in the conference this year, their

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Speaker 1: top ten in returning production. Greg Ciano's a good coach.

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Speaker 1: In fact, when we did the segment earlier today, what's

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Speaker 1: the best thing about college football? Someone just said Greg Ciano?

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Speaker 1: No context, Just Greg Ciano, which would be a good

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Speaker 1: Twitter follow No context, Greg Ciano. They don't have back

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Speaker 1: to back road games either. Rutger's gonna win more than

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Speaker 1: six and a half games. There you go, What are

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Speaker 1: we here for to make bold predictions in February? What

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Speaker 1: about Penn State? They play Ohio State, hoom Steltz because

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Speaker 1: the over under is nine and a half not eleven

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Speaker 1: and a half. So they're not going to be favored

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Speaker 1: against Ohio State. But where else are we looking here?

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Speaker 1: Where else are we looking where they're not favored? You're

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Speaker 1: probably looking at Penn State favored in either ten or

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Speaker 1: eleven games. They've got a trip to Southern cal on

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Speaker 1: the twelfth. Even if you sell me on them not

487
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Speaker 1: being favored there, they're favored everywhere else. In other words,

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Speaker 1: there's some breathing room outside of that Ohio State game,

489
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Speaker 1: who they get at home, by the way, So I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying that's not a winnable game. They're you know,

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Speaker 1: they're sitting here upgrading their offensive staff. Dare I say,

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Speaker 1: And they've got Drew Aller as a second year full

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Speaker 1: time starter. Now again, it's nine and a half, it's

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Speaker 1: not eleven and a half. Let's talk about USC for

495
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Speaker 1: a second, since they're a Big ten team. Now in all,

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Speaker 1: they're varying opinions on the USC schedule here. They do

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Speaker 1: open with LSU. That's a neutral site game out there

498
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Speaker 1: in Las Vegas. They've got Notre Dame as they do

499
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Speaker 1: every year. So half of their non conference, or actually

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Speaker 1: I guess two thirds of their non con is LSU

501
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Speaker 1: and Notre Dame. And they got Utah State for good

502
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Speaker 1: measure in week two. But also you see that Penn

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Speaker 1: State game, and they go to UCLA the week before

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Speaker 1: they play Notre Dame. There is no Ohio State there.

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Speaker 1: But they do have games at Michigan, and they got

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Speaker 1: a game against Penn State. I think, though, as tough

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Speaker 1: as that is on paper, I look at the two

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Speaker 1: road games at Michigan and at Washington, there's no better

509
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Speaker 1: time to catch them. It's never going to be easy

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Speaker 1: to go play them. But don't you want to catch

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Speaker 1: both of them in total re or overhaul years or

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Speaker 1: reset years in terms of coaching staff. Isn't that when

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Speaker 1: you want to play them? So anyway, we got in

514
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Speaker 1: an argument the other day on the show about where

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Speaker 1: USC fits in in the new Big Ten. I said

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Speaker 1: they're a Tier three program, which just meant I think

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Speaker 1: they're the fifth or sixth best one in the Big Ten,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of you disagreed with me from the

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Speaker 1: USC side. So my whole point was, well, obviously one

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Speaker 1: of us is going to be right. But the good

521
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Speaker 1: news is if I'm the one who's wrong, this schedule

522
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Speaker 1: will will be your biggest point of ambunition because if

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Speaker 1: I'm wrong, and if they're entering as a Tier one

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Speaker 1: or Tier two Big Ten program, they'll be in the

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Speaker 1: Big Ten Championship Game, because this schedule should allow them,

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Speaker 1: if they are that lofty, to be in the Big

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Speaker 1: Ten Championship Game. UCLA just briefly, they got six road games.

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Speaker 1: There's a three week stretch here where they go to LSU,

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Speaker 1: and then they got Oregon at home and then they

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Speaker 1: go to Penn State. You might as well cue the

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Speaker 1: Undertakers music there, and they're resetting in their own right

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Speaker 1: out there. Don't feel particularly great about their prospects this year.

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Speaker 1: Washington got jetfish in and not a lot else looks

534
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Speaker 1: like it did last year on the roster either. They're

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Speaker 1: mid season. You know, you look at that chunk of

536
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Speaker 1: at Rutgers and remember that's flying from Seattle to Piscataway,

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Speaker 1: New Jersey. They go at Rutgers and then Michigan, at Iowa,

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Speaker 1: at Indiana, USC at Penn State, UCLA at Oregon to

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Speaker 1: I didn't put them in the automatic lean towards under

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Speaker 1: but that's one where we just got to check back

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Speaker 1: middle of the year and see what they are. I

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Speaker 1: have no clue, how could anyone have a clue what

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Speaker 1: to expect from Washington this year. So that's a look

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Speaker 1: at some big ten win totals. Every team played nine

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Speaker 1: conference games. That's just an early look. You can bet

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Speaker 1: any of those you want to right now if you

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Speaker 1: are so inclined. Over at FanDuel, we had a tweet

548
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Speaker 1: that I wanted to get to about a certain team

549
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Speaker 1: that can make a certain run deep in a certain

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Speaker 1: postseason structure this year. Just see what you guys think

551
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: about this? Who was it? So Eve Van Pelt hit

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Speaker 1: me and said, Lane Kiffin and the Rebels all the

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Speaker 1: way to the championship game this year. Because I asked

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Speaker 1: what the biggest story in the sport this year will

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00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: be and Evie said, yeah, Lane's going to the championship game.

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Speaker 1: I think ninety five percent of the audience scoffs at that.

557
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Speaker 1: And yet they're sixth. They're tied for sixth, tied for sixth,

558
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Speaker 1: not in the SEC. Ole Miss is tied for sixth

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Speaker 1: in the college Football playoff odds. This is the best

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Speaker 1: shot they've had now. Ole Miss is a window program.

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Speaker 1: This I'm not bending on. I'm not budgeting on this.

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Speaker 1: I've had some folks push back on me when I

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Speaker 1: say ole Miss is a window program. All I mean

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Speaker 1: by that is they're not a team that's going to

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Speaker 1: be there every year. They got a circle a year

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Speaker 1: and either build up towards it or go all in

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Speaker 1: on it. Twenty twenty four. The good news is whoever's

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Speaker 1: right amongst us twenty twenty fours that year? And so

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Speaker 1: they're sitting here tied for sixth in the playoff odds.

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Speaker 1: They have the number one ranked transfer portal class because

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Speaker 1: of that, because of the all in nature of this season,

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Speaker 1: they got a returning quarterback, They got a loaded receiver

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Speaker 1: room could end up being the best receiver room in

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Speaker 1: college football at all miss They needed to upgrade defensively.

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Speaker 1: They did on paper. Now, as we all know, they

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Speaker 1: don't play football games on this but on paper, what

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Speaker 1: more could you do than go get the top rated

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Speaker 1: defensive lineman out of the portal, the number two edge guy,

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Speaker 1: the number three linebacker, got six half a dozen defensive backs.

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Speaker 1: Quantity does not always equal quality out of the portal.

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Speaker 1: Ask LSU about that at defensive back last year, but again,

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Speaker 1: the alternative was just sitting still with what they had

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Speaker 1: that wasn't going to be good enough. Alabama's in transition

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Speaker 1: this year, LSU still got questions. You got Joris and

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Speaker 1: Texas as the teams with preseason win totals at ten

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Speaker 1: and a half, and then outside of that, Vegas is

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Speaker 1: telling you Bama's at nine and a half, LSU's at

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Speaker 1: nine and a half, Missouri is at nine and a half.

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Speaker 1: Old miss is at nine and a half, and by

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Speaker 1: the way, Georgia, Texas, Bama, LSU, Missouri, Ole. Miss only

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Speaker 1: place two of those five, so it's not the most

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Speaker 1: loaded schedule in the world. So look, it's not my

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Speaker 1: duty to sit here in February and say, yeah, absolutely

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Speaker 1: they'll be in the title game. But anyone who gets

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Speaker 1: shocked if that happens, I don't think is paying a

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Speaker 1: lot of attention. But to end on a real note,

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Speaker 1: don't be surprised if they go eight and four as well.

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Speaker 1: And what a prediction this is. By the way, the

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Speaker 1: only reason I say that is because it's high risk,

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Speaker 1: high reward when you do it this way. When you

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Speaker 1: do it this way, if you drop a game early,

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Speaker 1: you really test the metal of a locker room that

603
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Speaker 1: was not put together in the traditional manner. You got

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Speaker 1: a lot of hired guns, you got a lot of

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Speaker 1: mercenaries coming in. And anyone who has a problem with

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Speaker 1: that language does not understand the reality of roster construction.

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Speaker 1: Wayne Kiffen would agree with it, probably not on the record.

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Speaker 1: He knows they have to do it that way. He

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Speaker 1: knows they just did do it that way. Anyway, that's

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Speaker 1: the state of college football right now. So Old missus

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00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: with it. They're doing exactly what they have to do.

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Speaker 1: But it's a struggle. It's a unique challenge when you

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Speaker 1: put together a roster that way, if things go right,

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Speaker 1: it's easy. If things go wrong, if you have a

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Speaker 1: little bump in the road, you find out how tight

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Speaker 1: the lug nuts are, and it's a lot of lugnuts

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Speaker 1: you got to count on. And this is probably the

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Speaker 1: only show you will hear that terminology on today, So

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Speaker 1: you're welcome. Let's move on. I felt it a good

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Speaker 1: night to talk about this. I almost hit on it

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Speaker 1: the other night, but I said no, because we already

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Speaker 1: went over an hour or so. Let me take a

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Speaker 1: little sip from the chalice, and I want to ask

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Speaker 1: you a question, Colin. Here's a good endpoint for you.

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Speaker 1: How well do you remember twenty eighteen? One of our

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Speaker 1: viewers from Ozark, Missouri hit us up and said, how

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Speaker 1: do you view the twenty eighteen coaching hires? Five plus

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Speaker 1: years later? It seems like there were more misses than hits. Dude,

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Speaker 1: they were all misses. This is insane. They were virtually

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Speaker 1: all misses. So if you're listening on podcasts, you don't

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Speaker 1: get to see this. TV fourteen slash TVMA style graphic

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Speaker 1: we're putting up of who's who of failed coaches. Twenty

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Speaker 1: eighteen taught me, taught all of us. It should have

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Speaker 1: taught all of us valuable lessons. So I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: through some hires at the power five level, and I

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Speaker 1: want you to think about this. Arizona hires Kevin Someone,

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Speaker 1: he goes nine to twenty. Arizona State, Herm Edwards fired

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Speaker 1: after going twenty six and twenty and a bunch of scandal.

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Speaker 1: Chad Morris didn't even win a conference game at Arkansas.

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00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: He's out after two years. Dan Mullen at Florida probably

641
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: one that they want back at this point at Florida,

642
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: but nevertheless, Mullen commits the crime of going thirty four

643
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: and fifteen and he gets fired. Willie Taggart lasted two

644
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: years at Florida State. He's out. Scott Frost, can't miss Scott.

645
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: He missed sixteen thirty one. I think all thirty one

646
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: losses were by one possession. He's out. Matt Luke interim

647
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: and then a couple of years at Ole Miss and

648
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: then he's out in twenty nineteen. I'm gonna come back

649
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: to Christi Ball, Jeremy Prewitt either five in nineteen or

650
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 1: sixteen in nineteen, depending on whether you count the revoked

651
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: wins from the NCAA. He got fired a couple of

652
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: years in Jimbo lasted a little bit longer. He just

653
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 1: got fired forty five and twenty five. And then we

654
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: had Chip Kelly, who just threw up the deuces at UCLA,

655
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: so he's now a coordinator at Ohio State. And the

656
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: only one who kind of sort of left on his

657
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: own terms was Mario. He gets hired at Oregon, goes

658
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: thirty five and thirteen, and then he takes the Miami job,

659
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: and Oregon wanted to keep him. So Mario Christoval was

660
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: the only guy out of two, four, six, eight to

661
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: eleven at the power five level alone that even lasted

662
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: more than a couple of years, much less left on

663
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: his own terms and is still around, like gainfully employed

664
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: at the position that he was hired to be in. Wow,

665
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: you look back at that cycle, and here's what would

666
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 1: be embarrassing. Fortunately we had not started the show yet.

667
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: What would be embarrassing is if you went back and

668
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: listened to what you said about him. I learned a lesson.

669
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: It's the twenty eighteen protocol. That's how we call it

670
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: around here. The twenty eighteen protocol is be very careful

671
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: heaping praise when new hires happen. It's a happy day

672
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: anytime a new coach is introduced. Boston College just introduced

673
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien today. Okay, it's a happy day, happy day

674
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: because everyone's glass half full and every one is focused

675
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 1: on the best possible scenario, which rarely plays out. So

676
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: Memhi had it figured out a long time ago. Talking

677
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: about coaching searches, she said, a cracked glass can still

678
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: be full if you pour fast enough, And that's exactly

679
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 1: the mentality a lot of people have when a hire

680
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: is made. There are cracks that should be obvious. There

681
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: are flaws in the hiring process, or there are flaws

682
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: in the situation that that coach is being plugged into

683
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: that should be obvious, but they're not because we I am,

684
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: including myself here guilty on occasion sometimes choose to just

685
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: pour too fast and so there are cracks in the glass.

686
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: It's not totally shattered. There are cracks in the glass,

687
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: and if we just poured some water in there and watched,

688
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: it'll leak out pretty quick. But what are we doing.

689
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: We're pouring faster than it leaks. So that thing looks full.

690
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 1: That thing looks full. Chad Morris looks like the right

691
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: higher at Arkansas. I have sold myself on it is

692
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,959
Speaker 1: the right hire. Chad Morris out A couple of years later.

693
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: Where was that on here? Chad Morris was four and eighteen? Man, oh,

694
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 1: just an all time debacle of a hire there. I'm

695
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: not banging on Chad Morris. I'm just saying that's one

696
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: of as you saw a long list. I mean, Florida

697
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: State hired Willie Taggart, and there were cracks everywhere, and

698
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: yet it was just just ignored them, just ignore them.

699
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: So no more for me. That's why when Michigan elevated

700
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: Sharon Moore, a lot of you picked up on hesitance

701
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: in my voice. I didn't talk about this, actually, but

702
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: I got a lot of feedback from folks saying, why

703
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 1: don't you sound sold on Sharon Moore? Was because I'm

704
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 1: not sold on Charon Moore. But it's not just about

705
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: Charon Moore. It's about the entire picture. There's a world

706
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: where Sharon Moore just isn't qualified. He dun't cut it

707
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: and he's fired in a couple of years, there's a

708
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: world where he succeeds. There's a third world over here, though,

709
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 1: that's all too often the case where maybe Sharon Moore

710
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: was good enough, but maybe he was put in a

711
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: no win position. Let's say NIL is not fully in

712
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: the place it needs to be. Let's say there's friction

713
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: in the athletic department. This is not a Michigan thing.

714
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: This could be on any university thing. And let's say

715
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: Sharon Moore is out after a couple of years. But

716
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: then if you sit down with him and you talk

717
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 1: to him, he tells you, Josh, yeah, I have a help.

718
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,439
Speaker 1: They amount of blame at my feet, but I really

719
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: feel like I never had a shot. And then he

720
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: just takes an hour and lists a bunch of stuff

721
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: that was happening behind the scenes that you were never

722
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 1: aware of. You listen to it and you say, wow, well,

723
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: now that you put it that way, I don't know

724
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: many people I could have dropped in that situation that

725
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 1: would have succeeded. And there have been coaches recently that

726
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 1: have been fired, and it's look, it is what it is.

727
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 1: It's a bottom line business. I'm not here to ask

728
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: you to feel sorry for him. But if you knew

729
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: what the situations were behind the scenes for some of

730
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: these guys, you'd sit there and say, Wow, I'm not

731
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: gonna bang on him. He's not the one that's at

732
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: fault nearly as much as this person, this person, this

733
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 1: person that created an untenable situation. Sometimes it's sour grapes.

734
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's excuse making. Also, there are other coaches out

735
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: there winning and they've got a metric ton of flaws

736
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 1: all around them and they're getting it done in spite

737
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: of that. And I understand all that, guess why very much.

738
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: It's a case by case situation. But the twenty eighteen

739
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: hiring cycle taught me don't just be lapping up the

740
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: kool aid at the press conference because everyone wins their

741
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: press conference. If you lose a press conference, man, then

742
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: you're really in for it. So yeah, I'm not gonna

743
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be palm palm waivers so much in

744
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: the future. Like Dubour, I think I was pretty effusive

745
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: in Alabama's hiring of him, but I'd be effusive in

746
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: anyone's hiring of Kaylin de Boor because he got a

747
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: track record he's done it. Now. I actually really really

748
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: believe in him, and I'm pretty sure Alabama is all

749
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: on the same page when it comes to winning down there.

750
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 1: So it's time in this show here on Thursday Night

751
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,919
Speaker 1: to do something that I would challenge anyone to try

752
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: and do, and that is rank programs in a conference.

753
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: We've done this with a few conferences recently. This was

754
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: the most challenging Tonight's task. Should you accept it? Actually,

755
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: let me take a sit from the chalice. I will

756
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: need all the energy I can get for this, all right, Colin, Actually,

757
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: here's your endpoint for the individual video. Tonight's task, should

758
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: you accept it? Is to rank the programs in the

759
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 1: Big twelve. And when I say program, I don't mean team.

760
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: I mean let's look at a rolling three year snapshot

761
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: and let's value on field results and talent acquisition and

762
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: stability and resource pool, which is how I define a

763
00:40:54,239 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: program and rank them. Utah I think is the best

764
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 1: program in the Big twelve. And they just got there.

765
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 1: But Utah under Kyle Whittingham's rock solid stable, they're twenty

766
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: eight wins two PAC twelve titles over the past three years.

767
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: Supreme Development, You're not gonna find an elite recruiting team

768
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: in this entire conference. But they are supreme developers of

769
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,720
Speaker 1: the talent. They do have eight plus wins in fourteen

770
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,959
Speaker 1: of eighteen full seasons under Kyle Whittingham. That's the best

771
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: program in this conference. Utah walks in the Big Twelve

772
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: and says hi, everyone, and then they go sit in

773
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 1: a front row. Kansas State's right behind them. Kansas State,

774
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: I think has the best overall head coach. Chris Cleman

775
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 1: is graded as our top head coach in the Big Twelve,

776
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: twenty seven wins and a Big Twelve title over the

777
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: past three years. They are also supreme developers of talent.

778
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: You're not going to find them in the top ten

779
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: on signing day, but you will occasionally find them in

780
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: the top ten rankings any given week because they're that

781
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: good at winning with what they have. What about Oklahoma State, Yeah,

782
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 1: I know some of you. Let me hit time out.

783
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: Some of you are going to be listening this in

784
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State top four, Texas Tech top four. Remember it's

785
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: all relative to who else is in the conference. If

786
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 1: these teams were in the SEC or the Big Ten,

787
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: they may not be quite that high. This is the

788
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: Big Twelve absent Oklahoma and Texas. By the way, Okay

789
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: time in. Oklahoma State's number three as a program in

790
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: the Big Twelve right now. Why, they got a couple

791
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: of double digit win seasons in the last three years.

792
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: They got two trips to the conference title game in

793
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: the last three years. Mike Gundy rock solid. Actually have

794
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: him graded as a top three coach in the Big Twelve.

795
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: And there's consistency, there's stability there. So Oklahoma State's way

796
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 1: up there. Texas Tech, Joey McGuire's already got them in

797
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: the top four on field. They've had three winning seasons here,

798
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 1: They've had a ton of bad injury luck at quarterback.

799
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: It's all baked in. They are the number one recruiting

800
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: program in the Big Twelve right now. They are the

801
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: number one high school recruiting program in the Big Twelve,

802
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 1: and that's being overlooked. But they are in Lubbock, Texas

803
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: really getting it done as much as anyone else in

804
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: the conference at getting the right players out of high school.

805
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: They're the only program, as a matter of fact, in

806
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: the entire Big Twelve with back to back classes inside

807
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: the top thirty. That's some trivia that you'd win some

808
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: money at the water cooler with tomorrow, by the way,

809
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: So that's Tier one, Utah, k State, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech.

810
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: Tier two. How do you place TCU? They just played

811
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 1: in a national title game last year, but it's been

812
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: bookended by five and seven seasons. So I've got two

813
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: sub five hundred years and a national championship trip built in.

814
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: So I put him at number five. They got three

815
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: recruiting classes in the top forty five, three portal classes

816
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: in the top twenty five. Sunny Dyke's there, rock solid stability.

817
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: Just you can't have two sub five hundred seasons in

818
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: there and be any higher than fifth. I don't think

819
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: Kansas imagine saying this three years ago. Kansas is the

820
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: number six program in the Big twelve. They went from

821
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: two to ten to six and seven to nine and four.

822
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: You see the definite upward trend everywhere here. Recruiting has

823
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: gone from one hundred and seventeenth to seventy third to

824
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:21,760
Speaker 1: forty four. Lance Leipold against rock solid stability here they

825
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: have an outside shot at being a playoff contender this

826
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: upcoming year. Just rest on that. I don't need feedback,

827
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: right now just marinate on that Kansas post season potential

828
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 1: football and they're not even playing their games in Lawrence

829
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: this year either. What a shame. Next up there they

830
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: are Gus Malson. Central Florida UCF was the best of

831
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 1: the G five jumpers last year. Last year was their

832
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: first time in the Big Twelve. They came in with

833
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: like Brigham Young, they came in with Cincinnati. They were

834
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: the best of that group. Gus Malson's been there, man,

835
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: He's been through the SEC wars. They got three top

836
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: thirty five portal classes. They just landed the number three

837
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,959
Speaker 1: class in the Big Twelve. They had the most blue

838
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: chip rated players in the entire Big Twelve. Gus Malson,

839
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: with access to Florida athletes and really good investment from

840
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 1: a university standpoint, they're gonna keep scaling. That doesn't mean

841
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: every year the record will get better. But if you

842
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: plot this thing and you look at the overall trajectory

843
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: of the program, Central Florida is going to be a

844
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: steady climber here. There's no reason to think that that

845
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: program's going backwards anytime in the near future. What about

846
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: Tier three Tier three in the Big Twelve? I got Arizona.

847
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: It's really tough to peg them. I mean, with Jedfish

848
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: still there, Arizona probably is higher. I have to take

849
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 1: into account the change at head coach. Give Brent Brennan time.

850
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: I have no problem with that. But they went from

851
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: one to eleven to five and seven to ten and

852
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: three last year. You talk about trend in the right direction.

853
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,479
Speaker 1: Recruitings trended the other way, but the onfield was good

854
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: for them. But then they lose the head coach and

855
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 1: so I got Arizona at eight, I've got Iowa State

856
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: at nine, but soon to be higher. I think we

857
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: can all agree with that. I think we should all

858
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: agree with that. How dare you not agree with that?

859
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: Iowa State playoff contender this year as well? By the way,

860
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:27,439
Speaker 1: they're at number nine, two winning seasons. Recruiting and portal, yes,

861
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: been questionable. That's okay, though. This just means we've got

862
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: room to improve there. They've got themselves in a prime

863
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: spot this year. It's a wide open, big twelve prime

864
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: spot to pop back on the national scene. Some would

865
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 1: say they never left it. They've been on the national

866
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 1: scene in my heart ever since well we started the show.

867
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 1: But Iowa stayed at number nine, Colorado at ten. Where

868
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: would you put Colorado? We had a fight about this today,

869
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 1: Where would you put Colorado? So on one hand, we value

870
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: on field results and they're well below five hundred, have

871
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: been for a while. We value stability. No one knows

872
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: year to year whether Dion's still going to be there,

873
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: and they've had fluctuation even with him coming in the

874
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: past couple of years. But they're the best talent acquirer

875
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: in the Big twelve when you combine recruiting and portal,

876
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: and there's been a ton of energy pumped into the program.

877
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: So I don't know, it's very volatile. You could put

878
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: him at seven, you could put him at twelve. I

879
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: don't know. I have no clue where to put Colorado,

880
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: So I put it at number ten. West Virginia we

881
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: put at number eleven, nine and four last year after

882
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: two losing seasons. They are a classic team versus program argument.

883
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: So last year's team gives you hope, but you got

884
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: to take into account the last three years. This year

885
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: we'll tell the tale, I think ultimately on Neil Brown.

886
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: In the overall direction of the program, talent's been okay.

887
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: Talent acquisition okay by Big twelve standards, mediocre by national standards,

888
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: and then the bottom tier. Here. We got Houston at twelve,

889
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 1: just picked up Willie Fritz at head coach resources there

890
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: coming off a four and eight year I put Arizona

891
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: State at thirteen. I feel Kenny Dillingham's perfect energy guy

892
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: for that program, three and nine the last two years,

893
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: though they do have two top twenty five portal classes

894
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: in a row, so let's keep an eye on them.

895
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: I got Baylor at fourteen. The hire of Jake Spavitol.

896
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,240
Speaker 1: That offensive coordinator has to work out or that staff

897
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: will be gone. And I'm a huge Dave Randa guy.

898
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: I haven't sold an ounce of my Dave Randa stock,

899
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: let me be clear about that. But still as a program,

900
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: they're way down the list. And then I bring them

901
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: Young at fifteen Cincinnati at sixteen. Both struggled year one

902
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: in the Big twelve, mediocre talent acquisition, whatever. So there

903
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: you go your Big twelve power rankings one through sixteen.

904
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: Because why in the world would we have any conference

905
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: these days in college football that has a number in

906
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: its title, that has an actual amount of teams that

907
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: correlates with the number in the title. Well, the Big

908
00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 1: ten has eighteen, now right, Jesse, the Big twelve has sixteen.

909
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, there you go. College Football twenty twenty four.

910
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: Pac twelve has two for the records. It's easier there.

911
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: Just take out the one and you are the pack two.

912
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,720
Speaker 1: At this point, we had a question about the quarterback

913
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 1: position that I wanted to get. To appreciate you guys

914
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: being tuned in on a Thursday night here just grinding along.

915
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: I know some folks are at the beach. More power

916
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: to you. I know some folks are just checking out,

917
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: taking their vacation time. More power to you. There is

918
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: no off season on this show, and we got some

919
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: real fun stuff coming up over the next month and

920
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: a half or so. It won't always be in the

921
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 1: studio either. I've said too much. Josh hit us up.

922
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 1: Love the name. By the way, Burning Jay is his handle.

923
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: He said, which transfer quarterbacks from this cycle will make

924
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: the biggest impact on their new team some Bellevue, Ohio. Well,

925
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel's got to be one at Oregon. So it's

926
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: the best one year acquisition. I think that anyone could

927
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 1: have made underrated dual threat, especially when you consider the

928
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,479
Speaker 1: t that he's going to be playing with their three

929
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: thousand plus yards in four seasons, only six interceptions each

930
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 1: of the last two years. Doesn't turn the ball over

931
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: a whole lot. That's a Heisman contender, I think right

932
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: now at Fandley's got the third best Heisman nods. So

933
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: he goes from Oklahoma to Oregon, Dylan Gabriel is one

934
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 1: of them. Will Howard, certainly from Kansas State to Ohio

935
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:23,240
Speaker 1: State is one. Yes, Yeah, I talked about Will Howard

936
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: just so Colin can play the b role of them

937
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: playing Iowa State in the blizzard this past year. And

938
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: if you don't mind me, I'll just watch it for

939
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: a second. Okay, he's going to have a better everything

940
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: around him at at Ohio State and you're just talking

941
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: about raw athleticism. Now they've got a better department there. Then,

942
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: all due respect, and I have immense respect for Kansas State.

943
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: Then he was playing with in Manhattan, Kansas. It needs

944
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: to improve in turnovers, but man, he's got is this right, Jesse.

945
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: Will Howard is tied for third in the Heisman market

946
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: right now. Wow, I did not know that. I didn't

947
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: know he was that high. So there you go. FanDuel's

948
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: got you some odds out there already on the Heisman.

949
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: Cam Ward at Miami. I am a believer that the

950
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: cam Ward announcement happened at a time where there was

951
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: so much other stuff happening in college football that a

952
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: lot of people miss this. So cam Ward was at

953
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: Washington State last year and then there was word that

954
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: he was going to go to the draft, but he

955
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: never hired an agent, and so as long as you

956
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: didn't hire an agent, you can come back and do

957
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: whatever you want to. And then he doesn't go to

958
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: the draft, and he goes to Miami and voila, there

959
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: you go, Mario christ Paul's got his quarterback down there.

960
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: Miami returns seventy four percent of their offensive production, but

961
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: only thirty three percent or fifty three percent of the defense.

962
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: That's eighty fourth, by the way in the country. So

963
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 1: in other words, I got a score this year. Figure

964
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: to have to score. They keep stacking talent around him,

965
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: and this is a guy certainly playing to up his

966
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: draft stock, so all the motivation in the world. I

967
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: think cam Ward. One of the most important players in

968
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: the ACC this year will be cam Ward, Grayson McCall

969
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: feels thirty five years old to me, still playing college football.

970
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: Goes from Coastal Carolina where he's coming off an injury

971
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 1: to NC State. Talked about NC State had him as

972
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: the number three program in the ACC. Got a strong

973
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 1: wide receiver group there, good landing spot and ultimately could

974
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 1: be a difference maker there in the conference race. And

975
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 1: also we cannot forget about Riley Leonard. He was not

976
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: at Duke anymore. Now he's at Notre Dame, and Notre

977
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: Dame is going to put a lot on his shoulder.

978
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: Completion percentage last year fifty seven point six percent, also

979
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: was banged up at various points throughout the year. He's

980
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 1: going to be a key because otherwise that could be

981
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: a playoff team. They need to up the production at

982
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Hopefully Riley Leonard plays a big part in that.

983
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: But there are several big names now and notice these

984
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: are not afterthought teams. You got Oregon, Ohio State, and Miami,

985
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: NC State and Notre Dame there. Every one of those

986
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: teams has playoff potential. Some of them have national titles potential.

987
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 1: They're watching us in Louisville, Kentucky, Pearson, Florida and Tulsa, Oklahoma.

988
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 1: Now we need to have a nuanced discussion here for

989
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: just a second, and I'm going to talk about Sean

990
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: Elliott stuff in a little while. I mean, you realize

991
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,959
Speaker 1: we had a head coach voluntarily leave a program today

992
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,399
Speaker 1: at the G five level to go be a run

993
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,879
Speaker 1: game coordinator. You guys realize that. I know everyone's paying

994
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: attention to Chip Kelly. No, that also happened today. So

995
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to that in just a second. Colin,

996
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: show me that Penn State tweet right quick. Aaron hit

997
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: us up could be one of Jesse's burner accounts. But

998
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: as far as we know, Aaron hit us up and said,

999
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: with the new coordinators at Penn State and the portal

1000
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: talent they've gathered, is this a team primed to make

1001
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,879
Speaker 1: a legit playoff run this season? Well, Aaron, they've got

1002
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: the tenth best odds to win the whole thing. So

1003
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: Vegas thinks, yeah, they should be a playoff team this year.

1004
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: I think there should be a playoff team this year.

1005
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 1: Penn State might as well sponsor the playoff expansion. There

1006
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 1: is no team out there that expanded playoff will benefit

1007
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:06,240
Speaker 1: more than Penn State. They have finished top twelve six

1008
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 1: times in the college football playoff era, and they have

1009
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: zero playoff appearances because it was only a four team field.

1010
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:14,760
Speaker 1: Do youre what I just said.

1011
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 3: They have finished in what would have been the playoff

1012
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 3: field so many times, and now if they do nothing

1013
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 3: more than maintain the caliber of their program.

1014
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: They'll be sitting there every year. They can lose a

1015
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 1: couple of games, and they'll be sitting there every year. Now,

1016
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a dumb argument that we're gonna have.

1017
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: I'm gearing up for it. We're gonna have it, just

1018
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: like the Penn State overrated argument. You know, we have

1019
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: that one all the time. People say James Franklin's overrated,

1020
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 1: Penn State's overrated. I of course say, no, they're not.

1021
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: What's your proof they're overrated? And then people say, well,

1022
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: they can't beat Ohio State and Michigan, to which I say,

1023
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: but they're not ever rated higher than those teams. Who

1024
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 1: are they losing to that they're not supposed to lose to,

1025
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: At which case you say, well, they can't be three

1026
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 1: to seventeen against top ten teams, and I say, well

1027
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 1: they can be if they were not favored against the

1028
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 1: teams like, you're telling me they're overrated. I'm asking you

1029
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 1: what are they rated? Where should they be rated? So anyway,

1030
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: same thing's gonna happen here. This guy didn't ask me,

1031
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 1: is Penn State gonna win the title this year? He

1032
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: asked me, is Penn State primed to be a playoff contender? Well,

1033
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:28,919
Speaker 1: of course they are, Absolutely they are. Penn State. Last

1034
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: year's version of Penn State would be in the playoff

1035
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 1: this year. Two years ago that version of Penn State

1036
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 1: they're in the playoff. It's just that the field's bigger

1037
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: this year. Hey, side note, does anyone know what it

1038
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: would be like for Penn State to have a home

1039
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: playoff game? Just think about that for a second. Think

1040
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: about what kind of recruiting tool that would be. What

1041
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 1: would that be, Jesse? Would that be mid December? I

1042
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: guess it would be like the week before Christmas? I

1043
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 1: think is when that first round is slated for, and

1044
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna have home playoff games in that round. What

1045
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 1: if Penn State had a home playoff game? What if

1046
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: LSU had to go to Penn State in December? M

1047
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 1: just thinking out loud, Darren James Franklin doesn't have to

1048
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 1: change a thing about himself, and he could also see

1049
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: his stock explode over the next few years. Not by me.

1050
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna think the same thing about him. I do

1051
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: now because I just told you. In this scenario, nothing

1052
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: changes about James Franklin, nothing changes about Penn State. If

1053
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 1: they just remain the same, it's gonna go from you

1054
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: at the doorstep, but not able to get through the

1055
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 1: door Penn State to perennial playoff team Penn State. Nothing

1056
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:48,399
Speaker 1: changed about them, their surroundings changed. So yeah, man, Penn

1057
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 1: State absolutely a playoff contender this year. We've got their

1058
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: odds already. I told you, if you go to FanDuel

1059
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 1: right now, which I would highly encourage you to because

1060
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 1: they're the exclusive odds provider of the show, they have

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Speaker 1: then I wanted to end talking about this situation with

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Speaker 1: Shawn Elliott today. I don't think I've ever talked about,

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Speaker 1: certainly not teased a segment about Georgia State football as

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Speaker 1: much as I have tonight, but I don't have never

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Speaker 1: lot of time on this, I promise you, but I

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Speaker 1: did want to address this. So Spartan dog D four

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Speaker 1: more than the three shows per week? Just in terms

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Speaker 1: of producing the show. What he's talking about is most

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Speaker 1: of the year we do Sunday night, Tuesday night, Thursday

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Speaker 1: listen on podcasts, it's there later that night and the

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Speaker 1: next morning. But during this time of year, we have

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Speaker 1: a live show Sunday and a live show Thursday, but

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Speaker 1: we also do a podcast only version. It's usually Tuesday

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Speaker 1: or Wednesday. It'll be in your feed and it's just

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Speaker 1: mail bag. And to answer his question, I love it. Now.

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Speaker 1: The downside is that means there aren't games happening, so

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Speaker 1: I always want it to be in the season, but

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Speaker 1: certainly this time of year has to happen. And as

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Speaker 1: far as our production, I love it. I love it

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Speaker 1: because I always feel like our best content's the content

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Speaker 1: you guys come up with anyway, and it's free flowing.

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Speaker 1: And I would say about eighty to eighty five percent

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Speaker 1: of the questions are about college football, but there's just

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Speaker 1: the right amount of mixture of other stuff in there.

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Speaker 1: We don't do anything remotely political, we don't do anything

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Speaker 1: remotely uncomfortable feeling, but there is some fun stuff mixed

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Speaker 1: in there. So yeah, truth be told, I do love

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Speaker 1: that format. Now. I wanted to talk to you about

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Speaker 1: this before I went off air, So today you may

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Speaker 1: who's been the head coach at Georgia State several years

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Speaker 1: step down and he's going to be the tight ends

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Speaker 1: slash run game coordinator at South Carolina. Just a wild headline,

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Speaker 1: and he had reasons, and he talked about how it

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Speaker 1: was personal, and I'm not here to tell you that

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Speaker 1: that's not true, but I don't think it's one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent about that. I think a lot of it has

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Speaker 1: to do with the structure of college football, and I

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Speaker 1: get it. I get it. As I told you guys

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Speaker 1: a few weeks ago go when we were talking about

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Speaker 1: the difference in coaching today and how some guys didn't

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Speaker 1: like it as much. I told you one of the

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Speaker 1: pieces of feedback I'd gotten was guys who were at

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Speaker 1: the G five level were looking to get on one

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Speaker 1: of the few remaining boats at the power level as

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Speaker 1: soon as they could, because they were worried that like

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Speaker 1: the SEC and the Big ten, may just detach and

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Speaker 1: float away from the rest of the sport and the

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Speaker 1: hiring would be really incestuous, which it always is in

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Speaker 1: college football anyway, and the NFL as well, and they're

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Speaker 1: worried if they're not already in those circles, those circles

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Speaker 1: will be further away and harder to get into than

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Speaker 1: they ever have been before. So they just want to

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Speaker 1: make sure they got a spot on that boat. And

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Speaker 1: they don't care. They don't care if it's a tight

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Speaker 1: ends coach and they got to let go of a

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Speaker 1: head coaching position at a lesser tier to get there.

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Speaker 1: They're going to get there. They went seven and six

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Speaker 1: last year at Georgia State. They've had winning seasons four

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Speaker 1: out of the last five years. This pretty wild move.

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Speaker 1: It's certainly indicative and a reflection of the uncertain nature

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Speaker 1: of college football today. But they feel it at that

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Speaker 1: level way more than the power levels. I mean in

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Speaker 1: Canyon World Galaxy difference, whatever that is, between Georgia State

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Speaker 1: football and Georgia football. Because at Georgia they'll lose a

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Speaker 1: lot of players too, but they can get whoever they

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Speaker 1: want to and no one's raiding their roster at the

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Speaker 1: eleventh hour. Georgia State is where other programs up the

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Speaker 1: ladder go when they get their roster plundered to backfill.

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Speaker 1: So think about the big lie that we talk about

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Speaker 1: college football as you are what your record says you are.

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Speaker 1: Normally we're talking about that in different context, but think

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Speaker 1: about it from a head coach's perspective. It's hard enough

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Speaker 1: and a lot of other good guys are doing what

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Speaker 1: you do, a lot of other good players and good

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Speaker 1: teams out there. So you could be pretty good and

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Speaker 1: tote a five and seven record any given year, but

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Speaker 1: think about how many things are now out of your control.

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Speaker 1: You go recruit the best roster you could recruit at

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Speaker 1: Georgia State, you go take the best kids you could take,

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Speaker 1: it the right way and you've cultivated a good atmosphere.

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Speaker 1: And then LSU takes your tight end and Tennessee takes

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Speaker 1: conference safety is headed to Michigan, and you look and

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Speaker 1: by my record, and they're not going to pay attention

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Speaker 1: to all this. No one cares about the context. If

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Speaker 1: you go four and eight, you're just a four and

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Speaker 1: eight head coach and you're sitting there at the G

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Speaker 1: five level saying, Hey, all the dudes up the ladder

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Speaker 1: We are the bottom of the food chain here. And

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Speaker 1: I think I can't tell you whether Sean Elliott had

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Speaker 1: if I'm gonna have my fate this far removed from

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Speaker 1: I know I can do that. I know I can

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Speaker 1: I know I can coordinate a run game. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go do that, and I'm gonna make sure i'm in

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Speaker 1: that world, and eventually I'm good enough. I'll work my

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Speaker 1: way up and I'll be able to get hired as

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Speaker 1: a coordinator, serve my two years, and I'll eventually be

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Speaker 1: a head coach, and I'll be a head coach at

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Speaker 1: a place where at least I do have a lot

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Speaker 1: more of my fate and my destiny in my hands.

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Speaker 1: But you're the head coach at Georgia State right now,

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Speaker 1: do you understand? And Jesse, do we have this confirmed

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Speaker 1: that they postponed spring practice. They postponed spring practice because

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Speaker 1: did it. They just lost their head coach and said

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Speaker 1: we're not gonna have spring practice. That's how up in

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Speaker 1: the air things are at Georgia State right now. Like

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Speaker 1: I said, there's no quick fix on this, and I

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Speaker 1: That's what it looks like. You know, when when you

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Speaker 1: But all of a sudden, power has been out for

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Speaker 1: In the meantime, though, I'm going home because I have

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Speaker 1: great start to your weekend. We'll be right back here

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