1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Good morning. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 2: I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 2: stories we're following today. 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: We begin with the leadership shakeup at the top of 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: the IVY League. Claudine Gay is stepping down as president 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: of Harvard University weeks after her highly criticized congressional testimony 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: about the school's handling of campus anti semitism, alongside the 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: presidents of MIT and the University of Pennsylvania. Bloomberg's David 9 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: Weston begins our team coverage. 10 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 3: It has been sort of a firestorm for these three 11 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 3: presidents to deal with exactly how you control and influence 12 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 3: discussion on the campus. There were also questions that developed 13 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 3: over time about some of the work that President Gay 14 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 3: had done for her dissertation for her PhD, and allegations 15 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 3: that she had improperly used sources that she did not identify. Initially, 16 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 3: the Corporation of Harvard, which is what they call the 17 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 3: Board of Trustees of corporation, said there'd been an investigation 18 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 3: and they had totally exonerated her. There was no problem. 19 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 3: But now she said, she stepped down, and I take 20 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 3: her to ward. At this point, and at some point, 21 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 3: a leader becomes a distraction. 22 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's David Weston reports this is a dramatic about face 23 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: for Harvard. Claudie Gay became the university's first black president 24 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: just six months ago. 25 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 2: Well Nathan, one of Gay's harshest critics, says her stepping 26 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 2: down is long overdue, and Bloomberg's At Baxter has that 27 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 2: part of the story. 28 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 4: Congresswoman Elis Stefanik says Gay in the December hearing never 29 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 4: condemned calls for genocide against Jews as a violation of 30 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 4: university policy. This is part of what Gay said at 31 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:30,199 Speaker 4: that December hearing. 32 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: We embrace a commitment to free expression, even of views 33 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,839 Speaker 2: that are objectionable, offensive, hateful. 34 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 4: Stefanica is a Harvard alum who said Gay's statements were 35 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 4: morally bankrupt. And Bill Ackman now who's also gone after 36 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 4: Gay posted at two sally an apparent reference to the 37 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 4: president of MIT at Baxter Bloomberg Radio. 38 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: Okay, and thanks. Sticking with politics, another legal battle is 39 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: set in motion involving Donald Trump's ability to return to office. 40 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: S Bloomberg's Amy Morris has the latest. 41 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 5: Trump is not just appealing the decision in Maine to 42 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 5: remove his name from the primary ballot. He's also suing 43 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 5: the official mains Secretary of State, Senna Bellows, who made 44 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 5: that decision. It's another legal argument that will likely be 45 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 5: settled by the US Supreme Court, along with a case 46 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 5: from Colorado where a group of voters is calling for 47 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 5: the justices to quickly step in. They're asking for that 48 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 5: case to be expedited. They'd like a ruling by February eleventh, 49 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 5: and we could learn whether the Supreme Court will it 50 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 5: Dervine in the Colorado case by this Friday. In Washington, 51 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 5: Amy Morris, Bloomberg Radio. 52 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 2: All right, Amy, thanks now to the latest developments in 53 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 2: the Middle East. A senior Hamas leader has been killed 54 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 2: by Israel on a explosion in Beirut. Hamas says Israel 55 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: killed Sileai al Rory, deputy headed the group's polit bureau, 56 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 2: who was known as the mastermind behind its armed wing 57 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: in the West Bank. Began more from a Bloomberg Silary Liebert, 58 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 2: it's sort of. 59 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 6: A no brainer that if they had a senior Hamas leader, 60 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 6: they could find an attack who wasn't in some underground 61 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 6: hiding place wherever he was, if they would go after him, and. 62 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: Bloomberg Larry Liebert. It says aler Rory would be the 63 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: most senior Hamas leader killed during the war. 64 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: Turning to markets now, Karen wall Street kicked off the 65 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: new year with a thud. Both tech stocks and treasuries 66 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: sold off. The Nasdaq one hundred index fell one point 67 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 1: seven percent, at benchmark's biggest drop in two months. Rich 68 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: Weiss is chief investment Officer of multi asset Strategies at 69 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: American Century Investments. 70 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 7: If you look from the start of twenty twenty two 71 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 7: through the end of twenty twenty three, cash basically outperformed 72 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 7: most equities, maybe not the Magnificent seven, but most equity portfolios. 73 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 7: So cash has been king, likely to be king at 74 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 7: least for the first half of this coming year, at least, we. 75 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: Believe American Century Investments. Rich Weiss thinks it could be 76 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: a tough earning season for corporate America well. 77 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: One of the biggest losers in yesterday sell off, Nathan 78 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 2: was Apple I lost more than one hundred seven billion 79 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 2: dollars in value after Barclay's analysts downgraded the tech giant. 80 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Mark German explains the bearish view of the iPhone 81 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: maker four. 82 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 8: Quarters plus in a row of holiday declines. The earnings 83 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 8: report that's coming at the end of January early February 84 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 8: will indicate that Q one was either in line, maybe 85 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 8: a little bit more a little bit less than the 86 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 8: prior quarter. You have these patent situations which are likely 87 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 8: to crop up in higher frequency now given the success 88 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 8: that Massimo has had over the past few months. 89 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: And Bloomer's Mark German notes that Apple shares rose around 90 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 2: fifty percent to a record last year. 91 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: Well, on the flip side, shares of JP Morgan closed 92 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: at a record to kick off the new year. The 93 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: bank's rebound from its twenty twenty two low has now 94 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: pushed its market capitalization to about five hundred billion dollars. 95 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: The lender's been a top performer in the banking industry 96 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: following record results last year. 97 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,679 Speaker 2: Well Nathan investors will turn their attention for more clues 98 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: on the future of interest to rates. This afternoon, the 99 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 2: Federal Reserve issues minutes of dece meeting, and Bloomberg's Vinidel Judai. 100 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 9: Reports Bloomberg Economics as the minutes could signal interest rate 101 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 9: cuts aren't imminent, they'll fetcher. Jerome pal did strike a 102 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 9: dubvish tone last month's news conference that officials voted to 103 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 9: hold the benchmark interest rate target steady for the third 104 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 9: time at December's meeting after more than a year of tightening. 105 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 9: Next session, January thirtieth and thirty first. Also on today's 106 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 9: US economic agenda, job openings, as well as ISM factory data. 107 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 9: If Anny Dale, Judeace, Bloomberg Radio. 108 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 2: Sorry, and Ethan Thanks. It's time out for a look 109 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 2: at some of the other stories making news around the world, 110 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 2: and for now we're joined by Bloomberg's Amy Morris. 111 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 5: Amy, good morning, Good morning, Karen. Migrants sent mostly from Texas, 112 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 5: have been showing up at train stops outside New York 113 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 5: City over the weekend, sidestepping a new order limiting how 114 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 5: they arrive. Hundreds of migrants took a detour in New 115 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 5: York and New Jersey to bypass the New York order 116 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 5: limiting the seat the number of arrivals. New York City 117 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 5: and Chicago recently began restricting migrant bus arrivals, and now 118 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 5: the crackdown spreading to the suburbs. Woodstock Mayor Michael Turner 119 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 5: spoke at a city council meeting, we do not. 120 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 10: Have the staff the expertise for the money, and that 121 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 10: may not be the ideal. We may all wish it 122 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 10: was something different, but that's the reality for Chicago. 123 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 5: Suburbs in Hinsdale, Woodstock, Buffalo Grove, and Juliette taking official 124 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 5: action now passing ordinances to find bus companies dropping off 125 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 5: migrants without notice. Meanwhile, four ports of entry at the 126 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 5: southern border will be reopened tomorrow. Those ports were closed 127 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 5: because of a record influx of migrants. Officials said closing 128 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 5: the border crossings was just a last resort to stem 129 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 5: the flow of people crossing the border. Hospitals across the 130 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 5: country now initiating some new policies in response to a 131 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 5: rise in respiratory illness cases, more emergency room visits because 132 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 5: of flu, COVID and RSV, prompting some hospitals to require 133 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 5: prior off authorization for visitors younger than twelve years old. 134 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 5: Duke Health infectious disease specialist doctor Cameron Wolf says, for 135 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 5: the most part, people understands it. 136 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: Ever easy decisions like people want to be able to 137 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 2: come and visit their love ones in a hospital, but 138 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: I think in general people understand. 139 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 5: The CDC says more than half the country is experiencing 140 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 5: a rise in COVID flu and RSV cases. Hospitals in 141 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 5: at least ten states and Washington, DC have now reinstated 142 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 5: mask mandates. Israel is planning to withdraw several thousand troops 143 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 5: from the Gaza Strip. The IDF announced the move, noting 144 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 5: the nearly three month war has taken a growing toll 145 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 5: on the Israeli economy. The United Nations says more than 146 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 5: eighty five percent of Gaza's residents have been displaced from 147 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 5: their homes and the fighting has left more than twenty 148 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,239 Speaker 5: thousand people dead. And a messy winter storm is headed 149 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 5: for the East Coast this weekend. 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They beat the league leading Celtics one 169 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 11: twenty seven to one twenty three. Shay Gilgess Alexander's been 170 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 11: on a scoring tear. He went for thirty six points. 171 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 11: Christaph Porzingis had Boston with thirty four. Jayson Tatum scored thirty, 172 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 11: but Jalen Brown shot only four of eighteen thirty six 173 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 11: points for Steph Curry's Golden State Feed, Orlando won twenty 174 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 11: one to one fifteen. Terry Rozier scored thirty four Charlotte 175 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 11: with a win at Sacramento, John Moran twenty six points, 176 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 11: ten assists Memphis Town San Antonio and Joe Lamby thirty 177 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 11: one points at a triple double easy win for Philadelphia 178 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 11: over Chicago. The Sixers were up by twenty five in 179 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 11: the first quarter New Orleans out of twenty five point 180 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 11: lead at halftime. Pelicans rolled to an easy win over 181 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 11: the book for the Nets Perdue number one in college 182 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 11: basketball and now thirteen and one boiler Makers with a 183 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 11: big ten win at Maryland sixty seven to fifty three. 184 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 11: Acced Duke rolled pass Syracuse eighty six to sixty six, 185 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 11: Big East Yukon and easy win over De Paul eighty 186 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 11: five to fifty six. College Football's National Championship game Monday 187 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 11: in Houston, and Michigan is a four and a half 188 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 11: point favorite to beat Washington. Both teams are undefeated, but 189 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 11: Washington has only had one win by a ten or 190 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 11: more points since September. They may not have running back 191 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 11: Dylan Johnson. He got caught it off late in that 192 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 11: semifinal win over Texas Johns Dan Shower. 193 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 5: Bloomberg Sports. 194 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 12: From coast to coast, from New York to San Francisco, 195 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 12: Boston to Washington, DC, nationwide on Syrias Exam, the Bloomberg 196 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 12: Business app, and Bloomberg dot Com. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 197 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: Good morning. I'm Nathan Hager. Washington may have just flexed 198 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: its muscles with the IVY leagues now that Claudine Gay 199 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: is stepping down as president of Harvard University, comes weeks 200 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: after widely criticized testimony about her handling anti Semitism on 201 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: campus alongside the presidents of MIT and Penn, along with 202 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: new questions specifically about Clining Gay's academic record some of 203 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: her past dissertations. Meanwhile, with less than two weeks until 204 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 1: voting begins in the Republican presidential race, former President Donald 205 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: Trump is fighting to stay on a second state's primary 206 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: ballot after Maine kicked him off over his actions on 207 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: January sixth, twenty twenty one. Lots of political news to 208 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: discuss this morning, and here to do that with us 209 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: is Greg Valier, chief US policy strategist at AGF Investments. Greg, 210 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: good morning. First, I want to get your reaction to 211 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: the sudden departure of Claudine Gay as Harvard University. She 212 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: just became Harvard's first black president in July. Now, apparently 213 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: after this widely panned congressional testimony and the mounting political 214 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: end donor pressure, she's out. I mean, what does that 215 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: say about Washington's influence over higher education. 216 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 13: Well, there is influence, Navan, good morning, But I think 217 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 13: a bigger factor may have been the donor's donations were 218 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 13: way down and applications were way down, and I think 219 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 13: that may have had a bigger impact. 220 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: Well, we did have the impact of a last Stephonica 221 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: Harvard alum with that viral testimony, the questioning that she 222 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: gave asking them pointedly whether calling for the genocide of 223 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: Jews it violates school policy, and sort of wiggling on 224 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: the answers. I mean this says something about a least 225 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 1: stephonics clout as well, doesn't it. 226 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 13: Yeah, two points. First of all, I think she is 227 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 13: going to be a real player. She is already, but 228 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 13: I think she's going to be a pit bull on 229 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 13: these issues and she summoned to watch over the next 230 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 13: few years. Secondly, I think that the university presidents, all 231 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 13: three of them, were just extraordinarily tone deaf. You know, 232 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 13: maybe what they said technically was correct, but it certainly 233 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 13: did not soothe the issue. It just inflamed the issue. 234 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: Not just that we know that the committee that brought 235 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: those university presidents to Capitol Hill is expanding its investigation 236 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: into some of these allegations of plagiarism against now former 237 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: president Claudine Gay. Where do you see this investigation going 238 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: into what's happening on these campuses. 239 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 13: Well, I think that that is going to be fair 240 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 13: game throughout the country, and I think it's not just 241 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 13: these three presidents. I think it's probably a lot of 242 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 13: other university officials that are now going to have to worry. 243 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: I want to talk about the constitutional crisis potentially here 244 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: with former President Donald Trump now suing to try to 245 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: stay on Main's primary ballot after the Secretary of State 246 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: made that move. Where do you see this going? 247 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 13: Well, first of all, Nathan, I think it's probably ninety 248 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 13: ninety five percent chance that the Supreme Court will take 249 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 13: the issue. I think they have to beyond that. I 250 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 13: think the odds would favor this court, which has three 251 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 13: Trump appointees of six to three conservatives on the court. 252 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 13: I suspect they would reject the argument that Trump has 253 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 13: to be taken off the ballot. I think the Court 254 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 13: could decide this within the next few weeks, before Super 255 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 13: Tuesday on March five. I think that in the final analysis, 256 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 13: Trump will be on the ballots. 257 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: There is a difference between a secretary of state making 258 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: a move like this and a Supreme Court like what 259 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: happened in Colorado, Does that make any difference for the 260 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: Supreme Court if it does come to that. 261 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 13: It could, and there will be lots of issues debated, 262 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 13: but I think the main one is can you quickly 263 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 13: prove that Trump supported an insurrection? I mean that's a 264 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 13: case that could take years, certainly many many months, and 265 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 13: we don't have that kind of time with an election 266 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 13: coming up. So barring any definitive ruling on the January 267 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,359 Speaker 13: sixth insurrection, I just don't see this going anywhere. 268 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: Well, that being said, why do you think the Supreme 269 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: Court would make a decision quickly if, as you say, 270 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: it would take a substantial amount of time before the 271 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: Supreme Court to determine whether former President Trump did indeed 272 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: commit insurrection? 273 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 13: Well, I think the Court we'll just have a cotton 274 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 13: dried decision saying that that they don't have the jurisdiction 275 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 13: right now to define insurrection or decide whether there was insurrection. 276 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 13: And I think without that finding, again, I just don't 277 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 13: think it's going to go anywhere. 278 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg day Break Today, your morning brief on 279 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: the stories making news from Wall Street to Washington and beyond. 280 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 2: Look for us on your podcast feed at six am 281 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 2: Eastern each morning, on Apple, Spotify, and anywhere else you 282 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 2: get your podcasts. 283 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: You can also listen live each morning starting at five 284 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: am Wall Street time on Bloomberg eleven three to zero 285 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,479 Speaker 1: in New York, Bloomberg ninety nine to one in Washington, 286 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: Bloomberg one sixty one in Boston, and Bloomberg ninety sixty 287 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: in San Francisco. 288 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 2: Our flagship New York station is also available on your 289 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 2: Amazon Election device. 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