1 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg day Break Asia for his Tuesday June 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: thirteenth in Hong Kong, Monday June twelfth in New York 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: and coming up today. 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: Markets are way key US inflation data in front of 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: the Fed's next decision. 6 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: Google and Microsoft face new competition issues, and. 7 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 2: Oracle's cloud business benefits from AI demand. 8 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 3: Miami Max's upsecurity for Trump surrender tomorrow. China deny spy 9 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 3: base in Cuba, US blames Trump administration for not stopping it. 10 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 3: New York Police commissioner to resign. I'm at Baxter with 11 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 3: Global News. 12 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 4: That's all straight ahead on Bloomberg Daybreak Asia, the business 13 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 4: news you need to start your day in just one 14 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 4: fifteen minute podcast available on Apples, Spotify, the Bloomberg Business App, 15 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 4: and everywhere you get your podcasts. 16 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: Good morning, I'm deg Prisner and I'm Brian Curtiz. Here 17 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: are the stories we're following today. FED officials with their 18 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: eye on the key inflation data tomorrow in the United 19 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: States and that meeting of course. 20 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 5: This week will get the CPI. 21 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: Dated at eight thirty in the morning, Wall Street Time, 22 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Michael McKee has a preview. 23 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 6: Economists say consumer price inflation slowed in May, led lower 24 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 6: by falling energy and automobile prices. This inflation in rent 25 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 6: may finally show up, holding down the core rate. Meanwhile, 26 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 6: base effects high inflation a year ago mean a big 27 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 6: drop in overall inflation this year. At least that's the forecast. 28 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 6: If analysts are wrong, however, watch out higher than anticipated 29 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 6: inflation will change expectations for the FED policy decision due Wednesday, 30 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 6: with officials divided over whether to raise rates or make 31 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 6: no change. An inflation surprise would lead to big market moves. 32 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:45,839 Speaker 6: Michael McKee, Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. 33 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: After the bell, we heard from Oracle. The company reported 34 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: fourth quarter sales rising seventeen percent. So we have a 35 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: top line of thirteen point eight billion dollars that is 36 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: one hundred million above estimates. Revenue growth was led by 37 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: oracles cloud applications and infrastructure businesses, and a boom in 38 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: generative AI may be boosting demand for its cloud technology 39 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: going forward. Here is Bloomberg's anarog runner. 40 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 7: AI workloads require a lot of power, a lot of 41 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 7: You could say, you know the engine and storage to 42 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 7: run those, and you really can't do that. I mean, 43 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 7: I would say only a handful of companies around the 44 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 7: world would be able to do this internally in their 45 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 7: own data center, so you really need a public cloud 46 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 7: to run that. So, whether that's you know, Microsoft, Amazon, Google, 47 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 7: and now most recently Oracle, which is really making strides 48 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 7: with their cloud product, I think all of these companies 49 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 7: will benefit as people develop more AI application. 50 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: That is Bloomberg's anerog Ruana Now. So far this year, 51 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 2: shares an Oracle are up more than forty two percent 52 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 2: stock right now in late US trading, Hire by three 53 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: point four percent ran Well. 54 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: The Federal Trade Commission has sued Microsoft in federal core. 55 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: This was in an effort to block Microsoft's big acquisition 56 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: sixty nine billion dollar acquisition of Activision Blizzard. 57 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 5: Bloomberg's and Kate says the story. 58 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 8: The FTC wants a transaction put on hold until the 59 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 8: agency's in house court has a chance to rule on 60 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 8: the deal, with that trial schedule to begin in August. 61 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 8: The Microsoft Activision combination faces tough antitrust scrutiny in the US, 62 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 8: and the UK ruled against the takeover in April, determining 63 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,279 Speaker 8: that titles like Activision's Call of Duty would bolster Microsoft's 64 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 8: edge over rivals in the small but growing cloud gaming market. 65 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 8: Microsoft is appealing that decision, which is globally binding in 66 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 8: Washington and Kate's Bloomberg day Break Asia. 67 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 2: Meantime, Google is set to be hit with another round 68 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: of antitrust charges by officials in Europe. That story from 69 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's tom Busby. 70 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 9: Google, already facing more than eight billion euros and fines 71 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 9: by officials in the European Union, may soon be facing 72 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 9: billions more. As early as Wednesday, a so called statement 73 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 9: of objections expected to be filed by officials there, targeting 74 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 9: Google's biggest money maker, its digital advertising unit. The new 75 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 9: charges from the European Commission, the EU's anti trust watchdogs, 76 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 9: takes aim at the alphabet unit's ad tech business model, 77 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 9: which collects user data which then allows advertisers to target 78 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 9: specific ads and to sell adspace and technology directly to advertisers. 79 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 9: Google has not responded to the Bloomberg's request for comment 80 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 9: tom buzzby Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. 81 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: Google did trade higher in the session today, up on 82 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: one point two percent, but that was slight underperformance than 83 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: Asdek itself put on one. 84 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 5: And a half percent. 85 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: Well in upcoming testimony, US Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen will 86 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: cast the IMF and the World Bank as important counterweights 87 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: to China. 88 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 5: Bloomberg's Joan Wong has that from. 89 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 10: Hong Kong, Yellen will tell the House Financial Services Committee 90 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,799 Speaker 10: the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank reflect American 91 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 10: values and that they can counter China's influence in the 92 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 10: developing world. And the prepared remarks, Yellen says the institutions 93 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 10: provide real resources to counter non transparent, unsustainable lending. Yellen 94 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 10: will be looking to garner congressional support for US financial 95 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 10: b acting also slenders, but she's likely to be countered 96 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 10: by Republicans and the back and forth. Later today, our 97 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 10: time could get testy and Hong Kong. I'm joined Walt 98 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 10: Bloomberg day Brogasia. 99 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: I'm Brian Curtis along with Doug Christners. So Dog, we 100 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: hit the balance scale out this week to weigh up 101 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: inflation versus recession, at least from the Fed's point of view. 102 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: And you know which one weighs on the economy more. 103 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,559 Speaker 1: Which is the bigger concern most likely? I would guess 104 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: it's inflation, and we'll get the information on Now we'll 105 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: get the dot plot the commentary by Jerown Powell, The 106 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: Fan of the Grateful Dead. 107 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 2: You know, David Kelly, the chief global strategist over at 108 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 2: JP Morgan Asset Management, was putting his finger exactly on 109 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 2: that issue, the FED having to weigh progress on fighting 110 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 2: inflation against the risk of recession. Now Kelly feels that 111 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 2: the numbers that we will see going forward here will 112 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 2: not support any further tightening. And if he is right, 113 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 2: he is saying now that the investment environment in which 114 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 2: we find ourselves could support lower long term interest rates, 115 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 2: a lower dollar, and further gains and equity prices. 116 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: We keep thinking that we'll add an inflection point and 117 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: that you know, we'll get information I We've got the 118 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: CPI and the FED this week, and that you know 119 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: that will really tell the story, and then you know, 120 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: nothing really changes all that much. 121 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 5: We just keep grinding higher. 122 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting that you had the big 123 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: strategist from the biggest institutions all out on the same 124 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 1: day today Goldman Sachs David Costin says he thinks the 125 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: gains will continue because some of the other sectors besides 126 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: tech will catch up. Morgan Stanley's Michael Wilson harkened back 127 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: to the nineteen forties when the S and P five 128 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: hundred rallied twenty four percent before then returning to a 129 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: new low. And you also had Marko Kolanovitch over at 130 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: JP Morgan saying this is going to fall apart. The 131 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: move higher in cyclical stocks is likely to prove fleeting, 132 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: as many of the same arguments, the lag effect of 133 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: the of the interest rate hikes and the fact that 134 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: we've had so many already that that will threaten the economy. 135 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 2: And speaking of stocks that are particularly sensitive to the economy, 136 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 2: look at energy today. Now we had the Goldman call 137 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 2: we were talking about this yesterday on the program, with 138 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: the cut in the forecast for Brent crude now about 139 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 2: to eighty six bucks by December. By the way, this 140 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: is the third time in the last six months that 141 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: Goldman has revised lower its forecast for oil. Today in 142 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 2: New York. This is not Brent, this is WTI. We 143 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 2: were down nearly four and a half percent. We closed 144 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 2: around sixty seven to twelve, and that took with it 145 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: that lower oil price took a lot of the energy 146 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: stocks down as well. 147 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: And energy really hasn't rallied. I mean it's just kind 148 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: of missed out on this bowl. It's one of the 149 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: most underweight sectors. If you avoid recession, is that an 150 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: area where you can play catchup. We'll have to wait 151 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: and see. 152 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 5: Lot is still out there. It's time now for Global News. 153 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: Miami says it's ready to handle crowd control as Donald 154 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: Trump surrenders to police tomorrow. At back to with Global 155 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: News from the nine to sixty news room in San Francisco. 156 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 3: Ed, Yeah, right, Brian, they say they're ready. Authorities are 157 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 3: downplaying any threats as well. Polite trief Manny Morales says 158 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 3: no perceived crisis coming. 159 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 11: There has been a lot of post none that I'm 160 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 11: aware that can cause any concern of any type of credibility. 161 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 11: But make no mistake about it, we're taking this event 162 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 11: extremely serious. We know that there is a potential of 163 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 11: things taking a turn for the worst, but that's not 164 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 11: the Miami Way. 165 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 3: And Mayor Francis Suarez says, Carrot and Stick. 166 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 12: Obviously believe in the constitution, believe that people should have 167 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 12: the right to express themselves. 168 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 5: But we also believe in law. 169 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 11: And order, and we know that and we hope that tomorrow. 170 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 4: Will be peaceful. 171 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, Meanwhile, reports are Donald Trump boarded his private jet 172 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 3: for Florida earlier today alone now tomorrow, after the arrangement, 173 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 3: Bloomberg's Nancy Cook says, Trump goes back to Bedminster for 174 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 3: a rally. 175 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 12: What he's going to do around eight to fifteen at 176 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 12: night is give remarks. I'm expecting those remarks to be 177 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,119 Speaker 12: shorter than the remarks he gave after his first indictment 178 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 12: when the Manhattan DA indicted him. And then he's going 179 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 12: to have a fundraiser at Bedminster. They're hoping to raise 180 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 12: two million dollars, and his. 181 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 3: Legal team will be working on other potential indictments that 182 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 3: could be coming down the pike. China today denying US 183 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 3: claims that it is has spy operations in Cuba, Chinese 184 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 3: Foreign Ministry sportsmen of Long Win Being saying that it 185 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 3: is false information. Says over the past few days he's 186 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 3: seen inconsistent information coming from the US. Now he is 187 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 3: right on the last point. The US has denied the 188 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 3: Wall Street Journal report last week and yesterday admitted there 189 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 3: were bases in Today, the US behind National Security Council 190 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,599 Speaker 3: Coordinator John Kirby went on the verbal offensive. 191 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 5: This is not a new development. 192 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: That China has been trying to achieve some intelligence gathering 193 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: capabilities in Cuba and frankly elsewhere in hemisphere. 194 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 3: And defends the administration's reticence to talk about it, saying 195 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 3: it does no good publicly and causes harm to talk 196 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 3: about these kinds of sensitive matters in public. Meanwhile, Secretary 197 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 3: of St. Anthony Blinkin today says the Trump administration did 198 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 3: not do enough to counter the Chinese efforts to boost 199 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 3: intelligence gathering overseas after discovering that Beijing was operating in 200 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 3: Cuba in twenty nineteen. And Blinka also says that China 201 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:22,239 Speaker 3: is not directly giving military aid to Russia at this point. 202 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 5: Today, we've not seen. 203 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 4: That line acrossed. 204 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 5: At the same time, we have concerns about private. 205 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 3: Companies, but says it is being closely monitored. Pennsylvania's governor 206 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 3: has declared disaster in Philadelphia after the collapse seven of 207 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 3: an I nine five overpass caused by a tanker fire, 208 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 3: and the Transportation Secretary Pete Budachich there today says it 209 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 3: has wide ranging effects. 210 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 6: This is not just about commutes, This is also about 211 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 6: supply chains. About one hundred and fifty thousand vehicles a 212 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 6: day and a good percentage of at its truckings. 213 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 3: And says all the way from Philadelphia up through New York, 214 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 3: but also south to Washington, DC supply lines. New York 215 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 3: City Police Commissioner Keyshaw Sewell is going to resign. There 216 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 3: had been talked for the past several days that she 217 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 3: had lost power and was having to clear all policy 218 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 3: moves through Mayor Eric Adams office. She has sent out 219 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 3: an email to her staff. Global News powered by more 220 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 3: than twenty seven hundred journalists and analysts in over one 221 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 3: hundred and twenty countries in San Francisco. I'm Ed Baxter. 222 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 3: This is Bloomberg. 223 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: I'm Brian Curtis, along with Rashad Salamat and our guest 224 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: is Lamar vieer portfolio manager with Vier and Company, to 225 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: take a look at markets. Lamar, thank you for joining us. 226 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: Does it feel like people are chasing here a little bit? 227 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 13: Certainly in some sectors. I mean, we think what's the 228 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 13: rebound in big tech has probably gone a little too far, 229 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 13: a little too fast. But you know, we still think 230 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 13: there are some pockets where you can get some quality 231 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 13: a reasonable prices. So you got to got to kind 232 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,719 Speaker 13: of be picky and choosy as you look at the 233 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 13: opportunities out there. 234 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 14: Absolutely, but you've got to be abso to be a 235 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 14: cognizant of us some which are cheap for a reason. 236 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 13: Correct, that's right. No, we we definitely don't think you 237 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 13: want to be buying into value traps, but there are 238 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 13: you know, like I said, it's it's when you get 239 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 13: the big tech to megacap guys, they've they've really just 240 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 13: the pendulum has swung right back to what we would 241 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 13: argue is a little overheated. There's a lot of folks 242 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 13: that will just buy those, or even just buy an 243 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 13: index fund and not realize that they're buying a really 244 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 13: a tech dominated fund and and really piling into some 245 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 13: of the richer evaluations out there. 246 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: I mentioned the comment from Marko Kolonovich at JP Morgan 247 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: about cyclical stocks that ultimately the gains will be fleeting, 248 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: and that the lag effect of the of the rate 249 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: hikes that we've already seen and the fact that we 250 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: may see more. I mean, there's no, there's no notion. 251 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: I don't think at the moment that we're stopping here 252 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: pausing maybe, but do you agree with that or do 253 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: you think that there is room for you know, there 254 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: to be more bread than the market. 255 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 13: I think I'm more in team Goldman, I guess than 256 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 13: team JP. 257 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: Morgan is okay, so you're a little positive then, yeah, exactly. 258 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 13: We think, you know, there's there's some room the rest 259 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 13: of this year, and we're actually, uh, we we think 260 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 13: there's still some good opportunities, specifically in the consumer sector. 261 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 13: So we think the consumer from everything we're saying, you've 262 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 13: got Wall Street on the one hand, terrified that the 263 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 13: consumer is getting ready to fall apart, but every single 264 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 13: bit of data we've seen has really been positive. So 265 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 13: you know, the Fed obviously has done some tightening. It 266 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 13: looks like they're not going to do anything, uh you know, 267 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 13: on Wednesday. But you know, we think that the consumer 268 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 13: is strong and and you know, with with most of 269 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 13: the data points that we're looking at, we think there's 270 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 13: there's still some room to run and some decent opportunities. 271 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 14: And here I mean yes, if you look at the 272 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 14: top ten industry groups on the S and P five hundred, 273 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 14: consumer cyclicals and consumer staples and even discretionary and not 274 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 14: amongst them, does that surprise you? 275 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 13: It does? But you know it's tough the way we 276 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 13: categorize sectors we find to be less and less relevant. 277 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 13: So you know, calling Apple a tech stock is fine, 278 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 13: but it's arguably just as much or more of a 279 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 13: consumer stock, So it becomes very arbitrary, especially like we 280 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 13: said with big Tech. You know, is Netflix really a 281 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 13: technology stock? I would argue it's more driven by consumer 282 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 13: trends than what's going on in technology. So I think 283 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 13: the consumer sector is a lot bigger than we're given a. 284 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: Credit if we do manage to avoid recession. You probably 285 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: heard me mention with Doug a few moments ago that 286 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: energy could prove an interesting bet in that it's underperformed. 287 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 5: Do you see it that way? 288 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 13: We're actually not very bold on energy, and partially that's 289 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 13: because you know, the global supply is pretty high relative 290 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 13: to the demand. But but more importantly, you know, we 291 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 13: we kind of tend to shy away from energy just 292 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 13: because it's it is so difficult to predict what's going 293 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 13: going with the prices of oil and gas, and it's 294 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 13: we we think you're much better suited or much better 295 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 13: off picking the things that are a little more predictable 296 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 13: and where you can feel a little more comfortable in 297 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 13: your in your bats is about. 298 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 14: You know, okay, that's energy. But on the other side 299 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 14: of energies, of course, the decombonization. How does that inform 300 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 14: some of your investment decisions. 301 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 13: Well, that that is definitely part of it. As you 302 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 13: look at you know, the rise of the electric vehicles 303 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 13: and so forth. There's there's certainly going to be a 304 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 13: lot of pressure on demand down the road. Now, I 305 00:15:58,440 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 13: think it's still going to be a while before that 306 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 13: really has a meaningful impact, but it's being excited about 307 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 13: the long term prospects. 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