1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks, DJ. Bucky 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: back with you. Buck has going, But man, everything is good. 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: I can't complain DJ, Like this is crazy outstanding football 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: weekend ahead. We have the playoff invocation games where the 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: teams are trying to get into the postseason. There's a 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: lot of win and go home games which I love 8 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: to absolutely watch. And then later on and I mean 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 1: during the course of the weekend, we get to college 10 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: football playoff and I don't really care about the playoff, 11 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: but I care about the prospects they're in the playoffs. 12 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: A great weekend. Yeah, I'm looking forward to that. Those 13 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: those semifinal games gonna be a lot of fun. On 14 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: the college side, We've got some big NFL games, which 15 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna get into today about some of these big 16 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: NFC playoff games. On the next episode, we'll we'll preview 17 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 1: a little bit of that. A FC what the weekend 18 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: is gonna look like. They're want to talk about the 19 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: Bills and the Chiefs. What we saw, you know from 20 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: the Bills. Can they close that gap a little bit 21 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: with the candidate Chiefs. Seems like the Bills are playing 22 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: really well. The Chiefs are kind of just getting by 23 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: and look a little bit bored. We're gonna air a 24 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: little bit of our interview that we had previously with 25 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: coach Urban Meyer, whose name has come up with some 26 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: of these head coaching openings. Would that makes sense? Do 27 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: you like that? You're not like that? Uh So, we'll 28 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: have some some fun with that as well. But I 29 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: say we start right here with that conversation on the Bills, Um, 30 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: are you are you buying them as somebody that could 31 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: not only, you know, give the Chiefs a game, but 32 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: somebody can actually get through the Chiefs. I think they 33 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: looked really good right now, and I think they're playing 34 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 1: their best football. The thing that I'm kind of reluctant 35 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: to jump all the way in on I need to 36 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: see Josh Allen in the postseason because the game is 37 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: so much different in the postseason than it is in 38 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: the regular season. It speeds up um and because it 39 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: speeds up and everything is quick, and has he matured 40 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: enough to kind of handle that. Last year we saw 41 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: in the playoff game against the Houston Texans it got 42 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: a little fast form at the end and he kind 43 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: of reverted back. I just want to see has he 44 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: matured enough to get them over the hump. I think 45 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: he has a better supporting cast around him. Stefan did 46 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: makes a world of difference because he was absolutely wearing 47 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: out J. C. Jackson um and I think I think 48 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: that matter because to have a guy that you know 49 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: that you can go to when all the chips are down, 50 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: I think that certainly helps him. But I think this 51 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: team is certainly trending in the right direction. But I 52 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: think the pressure in the playoffs is a little different, 53 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: and I just want to see that their quarterback and 54 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: handle it. He's passed all the tests with flying colors. 55 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: That's the only reservation I have in terms of in 56 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: this matchup, it comes down to quarterbacks Ken Josh Allen 57 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 1: outdo with Pat Mahomes. If the game breaks out into 58 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: a shootout like that, and I actually see that happening, 59 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: I know the Chiefs are not coming off their best 60 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: offensive performance, but they're gonna have at least one, maybe 61 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: two weeks of rest. Uh, They're gonna be fresh and 62 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: ready to roll. Here is the only team that gets 63 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: a buy which is a huge deal in the a 64 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: f C I don't see them. I don't see them 65 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: scoring less than thirty points. Many they're gonna score. The 66 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: Chiefs are going to score. So you're gonna have to 67 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: find your way into one of those shootouts, and you're 68 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: gonna have to finish drives, your Buffalo, You're gonna have 69 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: to absolutely finish drives, which is something they've done a 70 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: good job of. Yeah, they have done a great job of. 71 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: And I think we called it Thursday Night game when 72 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills took on the Kansas City Chiefs and 73 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: Steve spy Knew hit Josh Allen with all kinds of 74 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: stuff and he didn't really handle it well. So has 75 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: he gotten better from that point to where we would 76 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: see them potentially match up in the a f C, 77 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 1: maybe an NFC Championship game. I think that's the thing. 78 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: But I do believe when you're facing the Kansas City Chiefs, 79 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: you might as well already look up at the school 80 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: board and know did they have thirty and that you're 81 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: not going to them. You're not going to beat them 82 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: if you can't put thirty plus on the board. And 83 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: so your offense has to have enough gears and explosiveness 84 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: to be able to get that kind of production. And 85 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: so yeah, you're gonna be forced to play an offensive 86 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: game in theory because you're gonna have to continue to 87 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: put points on the board. And if we go back 88 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: to that game, which again we did, we did call 89 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: that one for Amazon. Um. If you remember, the Chiefs 90 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: just ran it down their throats because the Bills were 91 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: content trying to keep the ball in front of them, 92 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: like a lot of teams up doing against Kansas City Chiefs. 93 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: And the Chiefs were incredibly patient and just took the 94 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: run game and just just marched it right down the field. Yeah, 95 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: and I don't think that strategy was flawed because the 96 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: game was very tight and competitive into the fourth quarter. 97 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: The Bills, in my mind, even though uh claude it 98 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: was a Lauren the running game was going bonkers, they 99 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: still had it under control. The thing will be the 100 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: second time around, will the Bills employers similar strategy, because 101 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: you know, the Knasie Chiefs have seen that, so they'll 102 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: have a counter to your tactics. So what is your 103 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: counter to the counter tactics? You know it's a great 104 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: chess mans. But I will say this, the Buffalo Bills 105 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: have improved and this is a team that is insteadily 106 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: improved each and every week. And when you see them 107 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: play and you see them take care of business the 108 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: way they took your business against the Patriots, I think 109 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: it speaks volumes about the maturity of this team, like 110 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: they are a focused bunch, and Bills Mafia has to 111 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: be excited about the potential that this team has. Yeah, 112 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 1: they ended up forcing a couple of field goals in 113 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,679 Speaker 1: that first game, actually did hold the Chiefs under thirty. 114 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: But if you remember, the weather was terrible, was terrible 115 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,799 Speaker 1: in that game. Um, and it just again it felt 116 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,119 Speaker 1: like even though the game was close, it just felt 117 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: like the Chiefs were kind of in control of the 118 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: game at all times. Yeah, they were controlling the fight. 119 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: They were even at bay with the jab. They could 120 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: they know they could probably score, get the big power 121 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: punch whenever they wanted. The artis Buck four sixties six 122 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,239 Speaker 1: to two oh six. Feel like it was that close 123 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: to the game. And and and that's the thing, because 124 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: the thing isn't about the Bill's defense, is what is 125 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 1: the Bill's offense going to be able to do against 126 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: that Union? And I'm not saying that the Chiefs defense 127 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: their world beaters but they play a unique style because 128 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: they know they're always playing from in front, so they 129 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: can be a little more creative. They can be a 130 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: little more exotic and take some heavy blitz chances because 131 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: they know if we give up one, it doesn't matter 132 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: offense to go and get it back. That is a 133 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: scary defense to face when you're having to deal with 134 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, and so Buffalo has to improve 135 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: offensively in this matchup. Uh that would take take place 136 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: if they had to face the Chiefs. Again, had no doubt, 137 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: but again it does look like that's where we're headed 138 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: potentially in the a f C Championship game. The one 139 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: team I'm telling you, I just I know they've had 140 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: injuries and they're missing Ronnie Stanley and pieces. I'm telling you, man, 141 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: they have nothing to Baltimore has nothing to lose. So 142 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: DJ to me, I think they get in. Are they 143 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: the fifth seed or the sixth seed? I can tell 144 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: you because it's all it's all jumping up, it's it's all, 145 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: it's all, it's all tv D. I mean, depending on 146 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: what's happen. I will say this about the Buffalo Bills. 147 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: The Buffalo Bills don't necessarily need to see the Baltimore 148 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: rape there. They're the sixth seed right now, Okay, so 149 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: that means they will probably play the three seed. They 150 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: would play Pittsburgh. It would be Baltimore Pittsburgh and for 151 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: the third time, the third time. It would be a 152 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 1: great game. But the Baltimore is complex and and Baldy 153 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: did a great job on Twitter on Baldy's breakdown, he 154 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: was talking. He showed some of the things that you're 155 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: doing with the run game in terms of like all 156 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: of this stuff. You know, they've gone to spread it out, 157 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: but they're retaining the physicality because they're running uh what 158 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: we call the power scheme and the counter scheme, and 159 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: they're pulling the backside guarden tackle with the running back 160 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: going opposite and Lamar Jackson potentially reading the defensive end 161 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: and going back with the pullers and all of the 162 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: I candy with the deceptive motion and the pullers and 163 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: all that. If you're not on your game, they will 164 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: absolutely blood and you. And Lamar Jackson's ability to not 165 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: only run it at times, but to give it and 166 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: to read it and do all these things, they present 167 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: a lot of problems. And I think they've also embraced 168 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: who they are. That's we're trying to throw the ball 169 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: all over the lot and trying to show people that 170 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: we can do these things. We are a downhill, physical 171 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: run game and we throw it twenty to twenty five 172 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: times and if you can beat us at that, cool, 173 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: But we're going to do what we do and I 174 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: think they've had a lot of success doing that. And 175 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: as I've told you before, all aboard the Gust bus, 176 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: I mean I am. I'm a Gust Edwards guy. I 177 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: think he fits the identity of that team more so 178 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: than any of the other runners. And and I love 179 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: what j K. Dobbins is doing to me is kind 180 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: of that perfect compliment there. But with Mark Jackson, I 181 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: think averaging over six yards to carry, you've got over 182 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: five yards to carry for Gus Edwards and for j K. Dobbins. 183 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: So it is you can shorten the game in the 184 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: postseason when you do that. And that's what they're able 185 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: to do. And the thing that they've the with j K. 186 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: Dobbins has put him in the slot and have him 187 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: come in motion and run some of those fly sweep 188 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: things and and do some of that creative run game stuff. 189 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: That man, it's just so much I can because they 190 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: shift the motion and then they come and they hit 191 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: you with this old school gaps scheme, and man, if 192 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: you're a guy's blink or hesitate or pause, they're getting gashed. 193 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: And so we saw them take a part a New 194 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: York Giants team where the school wasn't nearly as close 195 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: as the game was because they dominated the game. Uh, 196 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: particularly on the ground. This is a tough team and 197 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: it's a team that I don't think anybody really wants 198 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: to face. Let me go back to that playoff game 199 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: where they got bludgeoned by the Titans last year. Lamar 200 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: Jackson threw the ball fifty nine times. Yeah, and it 201 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: happened where you are no know who you are and 202 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: what your formula is. I think they've made that mistake 203 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: the last two post seasons. Last two post seasons, Buck 204 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: they had the bulls eye on their chest. Now they 205 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: enter this with absolutely nothing to lose. No there ster 206 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: telling you that's not an easy out. No no, no, 207 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: no pressure on them at all, Like they're playing with 208 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: house money when they get in. And so another matchup 209 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: with the Pittsburgh still was Those matchups has have been 210 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: very competitive, and remember they played him with the JV 211 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: team didn't have anybody and captain competitive. That doesn't ensure 212 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: that it's gonna be the same or a different result 213 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: next time, but I know they have a lot of 214 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: confidence going into that when if that's the matchup and 215 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: then anybody else. I just believe that they feel like 216 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: that they're running game is they're superpower, and that gives 217 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: them an opportunity to knock off anybody before we get 218 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: to some of these other games here. I do want 219 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: to bring up this point, which is I don't know 220 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: if anybody's really thought about this or talked about this. 221 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: It's amazing we've made it almost we got one week 222 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: to go here, we'll have played every single game on 223 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: the NFL schedule. I don't know if anybody, even the 224 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: most optimistic person, would have thought at the beginning of 225 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: the season, with what you're dealing with as a country 226 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: and as a as a world right now, with this pandemic, 227 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: we wouldn't miss a single game. So kudos to the 228 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: NFL for being able to pull this off. Maybe some 229 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: games you might not have, some receivers you might miss 230 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: in a quarterback here, but we're playing games, man. They 231 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: did not miss a single game, which is incredible to me. 232 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 1: But we still have the postseason to go. And you 233 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: think about some of these games and you're you know, 234 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: you're the Kansas City Chiefs or you're one of these 235 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: teams that feels like, you know, the Green Bay Packers, 236 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you take one of your 237 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: best players and a positive test shows up on a 238 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: on a Wednesday or a Thursday of a game week. Man, 239 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: it can change this whole thing. We've never seen anything 240 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: like the unpredictability of this upcoming postseason. No, we have it. 241 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: And I know they have been the stair down the 242 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: way they were trying to get the bubble in place 243 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: for the playoffs, and I think the NFL p a 244 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: kind of shot that down. But I do believe, and 245 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: I've seen this in DJ You've seen it with teams. 246 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: There are things where teams and teammates make packs in 247 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: the postseason. Hey, here's how we're going to approach it. 248 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised to see some of these teams 249 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:45,359 Speaker 1: go into a voluntary bubble to protect themselves against themselves, 250 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: to say, hey, here's what we're gonna do for the 251 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: next few weeks. We're gonna everyone's gonna pitching. We're gonna 252 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: stay in this hotel, we're gonna go from hotel to whatever, 253 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: and we're gonna be focused on being the best that 254 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 1: we can be in getting ready to win a Super 255 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 1: Bowl title. I don't think that's an unreasonable ass, particularly 256 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: after him what Cam Newton said after the game where 257 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: he hadn't seen his kids in the last three months 258 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: because of what he's trying to do. I absolutely believe 259 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 1: that you can make a sacrifice for three or four 260 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 1: weeks to make sure that you're doing the best thing 261 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: possible to put your team in a position to win 262 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, no doubt. I think it's actually a 263 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: really smart idea. Some team would be wise to take 264 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: your advice on that one. Um, as we look at 265 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: some of these other games here, I want to start 266 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 1: with this first one with the Cardinals and the Rams. Um, 267 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens there. Golf not gonna play hoping 268 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 1: that they're hoping he can return and time for the playoffs, 269 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: But right now it's gonna be John Wolford and I'll 270 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: be honestly, I do four guys or whatever every year 271 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: for the draft. He wasn't one of the ones I did. 272 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: I was not told that he was a draftable player. UM, 273 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: so I did not evaluate him. Now everybody knows he 274 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: went to the a F It played well for the 275 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: Arizona hot Shots. So I've got some connections to that 276 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 1: organization that when when they existed, and talked to somebody 277 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: that was on that coaching staff and said, hey, give 278 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: me a little scouting report on Mr Walford. So here's 279 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 1: what I got back. Super smart, he's excellent. Our r 280 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: p O S accurate, short to intermediate. He's small, he's 281 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: not real stronger, rugged in the pocket, needs to be 282 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: clean there or kept on the move. Did a great job. 283 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: He's great in the classroom. Probably a short term backup 284 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: in the NFL due to his size. He can play 285 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: well for a game. Just the size would be an 286 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: issue um going forward for a long stretch of time. 287 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: But they don't need him for the whole season. Needing 288 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 1: for one game here, yeah, from one game, and I 289 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 1: do see the athleticism. I saw some of the stuff 290 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: from when he played in the preseason for the Rams. 291 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: He can't get on the move. He has a nice 292 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: fit in terms of what they want to do with 293 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: that stretch bootleg system. I think if you're Sean McVeigh, 294 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: you make that really the emphasis the priority. I think 295 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: you emphasize that they're not really an r P O 296 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: team because they're one of the teams that really operates 297 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: under the center. But maybe they put some of that 298 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: stuff in. I do worry a little bit about the 299 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 1: size DJ. He does look. He does look a little 300 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: a little tiny, you know. Um and in the preseason 301 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: I think is one thing. But as you know, they're 302 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 1: putting him in in week seventeen and we talked about 303 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: the different speeds of the NFL, there's one thing from 304 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: preseason to regular season. He's jumping in when his playoff 305 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: speed because everything is on the line. The speed, the 306 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: physicality and intensity that he will face in this game. Man, 307 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 1: you're talking about three or four times what it was 308 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: in the preseason. And the Cardinals are a team that 309 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,839 Speaker 1: love to heat you up. Yeah, we'll see because it 310 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: has to be really quick and Sean McVeigh will have 311 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: to be. It would have to be the best game 312 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: that he calls to protect a quarterback that may be 313 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: overwhelmed just by all of what he is facing. The 314 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: magnitude of the game, to speed of the game and 315 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: also the pressure tactics from the opponent. And what a 316 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: what a crusher this would be, by the way, for 317 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals after the week before losing to C. J. Bethard, 318 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: you turn around and two gotta have a games. If 319 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: you lose to C. J. Bethard and John Wolford back 320 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: to back weeks. I mean, you don't deserve it, just 321 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: just fly. And here's the thing to San Francisco forty 322 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: nine has put a game plan in place that where 323 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: their rams can take anything. We see any of the 324 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: ninja blitz, that little slot blitz this week, absolutely, and 325 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: so I think I think you'll see those things. And 326 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: from an offensive standpoint, Sean McVeigh, Kyle Shanahan, similar systems 327 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: work the other and know each other, right, I mean, 328 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: I think you'll see a lot of what the Niners 329 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: were able to do to get their run game crank. 330 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: The Cardinals will see that again, and so we'll see 331 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: if they're able to do it. They have to have 332 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: enough balance just to stave off some of the pressure. 333 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, this is a huge game, and so it's 334 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: interesting to see how this plays out. And then you're 335 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: dealing with an Arizona Cardinal team who also has an 336 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: injury and undisclosed lord leg injury to Kyler Murray that 337 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: we saw that like the final play, the final series 338 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,119 Speaker 1: of the game. What is that if he's not available, 339 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: they also have to go into the game with their 340 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: backup quarterback. Well, which gets me to the I mean, 341 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: we're not gonna go throw these individual games. But you 342 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: look at the Cowboys and the Giants where uh Dan 343 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: Jones has not been healthy coming down the stretch. Obviously, 344 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: the Cowboys have been playing with Andy dolt Um. You 345 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: look at the Cardinals Rams we just touched on. Um. 346 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's interesting to me that so many 347 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: of these teams are coming down the stretch here and 348 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: having to rely on backup quarterbacks. It's crazy. I mean, 349 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: that's that's three big games with the with the Cowboys, Giants, Washington, 350 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: um is I mean who are they playing with? Heineke 351 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: could be playing who was signed in December, who was 352 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: taking classes at Old Dominion UM prepping and he's just 353 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: starting quarterback in a winner go home game. And three 354 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: teams in the NFC relying on backups this week and 355 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: so and so then here here's the thing, because obviously 356 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: you always gonna jumping like book, why do you engage? 357 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: And I can't help because I just get angry on Twitter. 358 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: Sometimes I'll just get angry because I just see the 359 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: stuff and I'm like, man, we always talk about the 360 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: quarterback position and how important it is, and then some 361 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: teams out to keep the starting quarterback comfortable by bringing 362 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: in a mentor or a coach or someone that's non threatening, 363 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: but inevitably quarterback has to play. And when I talk 364 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: about the investment in the position, I'm not only talking 365 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: about money, like, hey, get the best backup and pay 366 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: him accordingly, because it's a very important position. I think 367 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: you can say that he is. You should treat this 368 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: QB two like an additional starter because he is very important. 369 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: I mean, he holds the franchise, his hopes in his 370 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: hands when he goes on the field. But then you 371 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: also don't want to invest a top draft pick in 372 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: him because you're like, oh, we wanted to pay we 373 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: could have got another weapon. Well, he is a valuable 374 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: weapon because if he plays, you need him to be 375 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: a productive player. So investing a young guy who is 376 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: talented enough that you see potentially being a starter, development 377 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: and giving him opportunity so if he does play, he 378 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: can be successful. And so I just would like to 379 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: see everybody, if we talk about quarterback and how important 380 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: it is, well, man, let your actions equate to what 381 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: your words are. Drafting him, investing him, give him reps, 382 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: give him reps in practice during the week so he 383 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: can be fully prepared to play when he gets his opportunity. Yeah, 384 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I think as some of these teams that 385 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: have been a perennial playoff teams right now, just give 386 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: you a few of them off the top of my 387 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: head here when we look at like the Pittsburgh Steelers, 388 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: go back to the Charlie Batch, um, you know days 389 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: which which they've always had quality guys. The Ravens even 390 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: now you look at r G three was what the 391 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 1: number to pick in the draft. Um, he's got talent, 392 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: he's got ability. Um you go through, uh, some of 393 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: these other ones that are perennial playoff teams. The Patriots 394 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: have always had, you know, guys that know that offense 395 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: inside out to play Citty last year Matt Moore. Matt 396 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: Moore played started a lot of games in this list, 397 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: started a lot of games in the league, and so 398 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: it's not, Oh, it's a throwaway position. I just want 399 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: someone who is another set. I was like, no, I 400 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: want someone who can play. Someone who can play, has talent. 401 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: Jamis Winston is the Saints third string quarterback double DJ 402 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: titty Bridgewater. Look, so look the Saint said titty Bridgewater 403 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: to Asom Hill behind Drew Brees. Yeah. Starter, starter quality 404 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: players don't go in and just settle for like, oh, 405 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: we didn't have anybody else, so we're just gonna pluck 406 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: a guy off the street. And oh, well worked out 407 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: for Tennessee. Look how it worked out for Tennessee last year. 408 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: I mean, or was it two years ago? I guess 409 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: when when Tannehill took over from Mariota. Bring him in, 410 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: bring him in, Yeah, bringing a talented player. Well, let's 411 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: just see what happened when the Raiders this year with 412 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota. We call that game. He comes in the game, 413 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: and I would say that they played better because he 414 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: gave him a different dimention because he's a high end player. 415 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: Invest in a high end player. Look, I love the 416 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: feel good stories and those things, and I understand the 417 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 1: challenges of the position and all of the cerebral nature. 418 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 1: But I want someone who can actually play played the 419 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: game and play it at a high level. Yeah. And 420 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: and look, the Eagles have always done it, if you 421 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: go back, They've always invested in the backup, going back 422 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: to the you know, with Kevin Cobb behind McNabb, and 423 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: they've always had another guy waiting in the wings. They 424 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: paid Chase Daniel, you know, meant when Chase Daniel could 425 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: still play, you know, several years ago, he was making 426 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 1: good money as a backup. Then they drafted Jalen Hurts, 427 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: which you know could end up being their quarterback of 428 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 1: the future here going forward. They want to dang Super 429 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 1: Bowl with Nick Foles. So they've always believed in in that. 430 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: And Andy Reid has always had that philosophy, and I 431 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: think that's what stayed behind, you know, after he left. 432 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: But it is amazing to me that you would not think, um, 433 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: you know, you're you're paying your swing tackle more than 434 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: you're paying your backup quarterback. It's that, I know. It 435 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: boggles my mind. And it's funny you bring up the 436 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: Andy Read theme because I firmly believed that Andy got 437 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 1: that from Mike Home, who got it from Green Bay. Um. 438 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 1: Ron Wolf when we were all in Green Bay. Because 439 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: the year that the package won the Super Bowl in 440 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: the ninety six, when I was on that team, the 441 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: backup quarterback, Jim McMahon. How about that, Jim McMahon was 442 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: a backup quarterback not just because of oh this is 443 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: what we do know, you wanna le Jim mcgul who look, 444 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: it's not too big for him. So when he's pressed 445 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: in the act and he's like, okay, boys, I got this, 446 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: um billy. Joe Tolliver was on the team for a 447 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: little while, like I saw, Garrett was back up forever. 448 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett, you know, could get in and one of 449 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 1: them games, you know, when he got out there. And 450 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: and so that's what you want. And so the investment 451 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: is not only a let's pay him, but okay, let's 452 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: treat this position with the reverence and the importance that 453 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: it is. And so Jalen Hursts being the second round pick, 454 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: other teams drafting guys, even if it's a launch term thing, 455 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: like why are we worried about like it's the second 456 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: round pick, but second round pick in in grade stuff says, Okay, 457 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 1: this guy can be a potential starter down the line. Well, 458 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,479 Speaker 1: guess what your backup quarterback is the potential starter if 459 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: to back up if the GB one goes out a lot, 460 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I give the Cowboys credit for 461 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton. I mean, their record is not gonna be great, 462 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 1: but they've got a really good chance to potentially win 463 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: that division. And they will have won the division because 464 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: they invested in Andy Dalton. And and that is and 465 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: that is the overarching point, like have someone who is 466 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: ready to play, who can do it? Uh? Functional, Just 467 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: give me a functional guy. I mean, let's talk. Let's 468 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: talk about Miami. Fitzpatrick to whoever is the back of 469 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: whatever is the two hited system. But fitz Patrick, I know, 470 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: I know we're going to get to the a f 471 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: C tomorrow, but I want to bring this up with 472 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: you because I have a question. This was posed to me. 473 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: I'm not my opinion. I want to preface this, this 474 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: is not my opinion, but this question was posed to me. 475 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 1: Watching what we're seeing with TA right now, are you 476 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: at all worried that this is Matt Liner might be 477 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: might be? Yeah, I mean you could. I mean I 478 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: think it's it's not go back my people about Matt 479 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: at sc go back because I don't. Okay, So so 480 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: when we go back and look at mad Line, I 481 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: gave mad Line in a big grade gave. When I 482 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: looked at mad Linard, I said, and I'm like, without 483 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: a paraphrase my report, I said, there would be no 484 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: one more ready to handle the responsibility of being a 485 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback than Matt Linard. He did it on a 486 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: big stage in Hollywood with all eyes on him, and 487 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: he flowed the biggest stage him. And so in the meeting, though, 488 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: I remember Dan hitting distinctly challenging me on my report 489 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,719 Speaker 1: and saying, well, Buck, look at who he's surrounded by. 490 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: Looking at the offensive line, Look at all the first 491 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: and second round is that he's playing with. He has 492 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: a first and second round in the backfield behind him 493 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: and Reggie Bush and Lyndale White. Look at why receivers 494 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: on the outside, Carrie Colebram, Steve Smith and all those 495 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: guys like Mike Williams who he said who couldn't play 496 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,239 Speaker 1: quarterback in this system and put up numbers. Look at 497 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: that offensive line, it's a fortress. He's playing with pros 498 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: against a college team. And maybe it played out because 499 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: maybe Matt didn't handle all the stuff that you need 500 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: to handle off the field and all that other stuff. 501 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, like there is something you agree the production 502 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: versus the player, like basically saying the talent, Like if 503 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: you just strip all that away and just focus on 504 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: the talent, I'm not ready to throw in it. I'm 505 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 1: not ready to throw it in on too. I think 506 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: he's gonna still got a chance to be really good. 507 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: But when I got that text mess, I did think 508 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: about it. I did think about it for a second. Say, 509 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: there are some similarities there because individual skill wise, not 510 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: an overpowering arm not as you know, special special actor 511 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: was surrounded by an all star team at college, and 512 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, he's not making some of 513 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: these throws, not not attempting some of them. So he 514 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: said it. So it's also, I would say, the mad 515 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 1: line of thing. But let's also throw the Alex Smith 516 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: thing in a little bit. In terms of Alex Smith's 517 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: biggest thing that always held him was it got to 518 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 1: a point where he just didn't want to turn the 519 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: ball over, and so he would get you to a point, 520 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: but he couldn't get you over the hump because he 521 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: wouldn't pull the trigger. So this is top gun, all right. 522 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 1: So Pat Mahomes is Maverick. He hasn't seen anything. Meanwhile, 523 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: Alex Smith is ice man. He's ice. He won't pull 524 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,719 Speaker 1: the trigger, not yet now yet I got him insights. 525 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: Not yet. And so with two of two is reluctance 526 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: to try and fit the ball in the tight windows 527 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: has helped the Dolphins win games because he hasn't turned 528 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: it over, whereas fit Pat Trick maybe a little more. 529 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: He doesn't have He didn't have a Gilba cat button. 530 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 1: That thing's busted on Fitzpatrick. He just left and and 531 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 1: so and so it goes. But I still say this, 532 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: and we get into the discussion with Rhett yesterday on 533 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: on the pot, I think you have to let to 534 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: a work through these issues over and I'm with you 535 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: on that. You know, how do you know what we're 536 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: gonna wait till next year to see it? Like, I mean, 537 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: when are we ever gonna do it? When we're gonna 538 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: take the training was off the bike? Yeah yeah, And 539 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: I mean to me, look, the ultimate goal is to 540 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: win a championship. So in order to win a championship, 541 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: hopefully that it's gonna be because the guy you picked 542 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 1: up there in the top five is going to emerge 543 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: as the leader and the guy that's gonna be that guy. 544 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: So let's let him take some of those lumps now 545 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 1: with the with the hope that we can go on 546 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 1: and win a championship. They're not gonna win a super 547 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: Bowl this year, like that's not happening. So let's let's 548 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 1: keep the bigger goal on mind here, which is to 549 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: get our team ready to win a championship and and 550 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: always bringing in big brother when little brothers struggling. I 551 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: don't know that you do that. I will say tell 552 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: you that that that liner thinks. That spooked me. When 553 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: I saw that text, it made me think I hadn't 554 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: thought about that. It does scare me. Butod I will 555 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: say this, and this had infected into it. And I 556 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: don't know if if factors into Brian Fleury is thinking 557 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: at all. It is a lot different to make the 558 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 1: playoff push when you have the mulligan of the Houston 559 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: Texans pick as the top five. That's true because now 560 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: because now that I mean, look, we already got a 561 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: top pick. So now if we get into the playoffs 562 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: from a cultural standpoint, we're trying in the right direction. 563 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 1: But let me play Devil's advocate on this. If you 564 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: keep throwing two out there with these tests, and he 565 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: keeps failing these tests, you got the third pick. We've 566 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: seen now, we've seen Josh Rosen got punted after a year. 567 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins just got punted after a year. I'm not 568 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: saying that's what you should do or what I'm just 569 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 1: saying that it's been done twice recently. If you're sitting 570 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: there at number three and you think that Trey Lance 571 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: or if it's Zack Wilson, whoever else is there is 572 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 1: an upgrade, you take him. I mean, that's the that's 573 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: crazy to say that, but that's what recent history has 574 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: told us you are to your team, dude. Is if 575 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: we talk about best player available right that in the notebook, 576 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 1: buck take take that. I mean they got the third pick. 577 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: That's saucy right there. Get the pen out. Can we 578 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: get that in the notebook too late? Saucy right there? 579 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 1: Like like before I was ready like Sam donno versus 580 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: twenty one, but now it could be shouldn't be two 581 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: of versus class based on where they're at. T J 582 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: making me go to work, So I like, I give 583 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 1: you one. I just need one item in the notebook 584 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: a month. That's all. I mean, no, because I do 585 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 1: I thought DJ, I believe you have to do it. 586 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: Like if we're sitting in there and we're just talking 587 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: about the draft board and we have the draft board 588 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: and we ranked those players as as it stands, because 589 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: I don't without even like loosely saying what the Dolphins 590 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: biggest needs are. When I look at this draft is 591 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: draft is heavy. It's offense heavy, super offense. Your quarterbacks, 592 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: your offensive tackles, your pass catches, all the person there. Um. 593 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: You have cornerbacks, but I think your cornerbacks are more 594 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: at the top of your more mid first rounder types 595 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 1: or whatever. Pass rushes. I don't think anyone is in 596 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: love with like a guy at the top of the board. 597 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 1: So you're looking at them. Yes, they need passed catcher, 598 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 1: but we've seen it's documented. Man. I can get a 599 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 1: pass catcher, I get pass catches whatever little bottom of 600 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: the first round, second round, I can get those guys. 601 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 1: But a quarterback and the currency that a quarterback can 602 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 1: potentially bring back down the line. I just think about that, like, 603 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: just think about okay too, here we got let's just 604 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: say Zach Wilson and two we have both of them 605 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: on our roster. Let's just have a quarterback competition. We're 606 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: gonna play the best one and let's and let's take 607 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 1: it all the way out to that all the way 608 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 1: out and didn't punt on it? Two Like, why why not? 609 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: If he scared? If it gives you, if it gives 610 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: you the better option at the position for the next 611 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: twelve to fifteen years, it's a small price to pay, 612 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: small price to pay. And everyone would listen to this 613 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 1: and be like, oh, yeah, you can't do it. Why not? 614 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: Why not? Why can't we double dip at the position? 615 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: Because what are we talking about? Collectively? We have what 616 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: how much money tied up in the cat Not much. 617 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: It is a strategy that we've talked about teams doing. 618 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: We that it would be bold if someone did the 619 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: quarter the college thing where I'm gonna have two young 620 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: guys playing on their rookie deals and when one guy graduates, 621 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: the other guy takes over. We can't do it necessarily 622 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: like that, but from a cap standpoint, DJ, that's about 623 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: as economical as you can have to have two guys 624 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: on rookie deals playing the quarterback position. I mean big. 625 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: I mean it's not the cur I don't know, am 626 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: I crazy? I haven't seen anything out Maybe there's people 627 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: have written about this. I have not seen this conversation 628 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 1: brought up, but I think it's fascinating. I mean, double deal, 629 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 1: give yourself an opportunity. We always talk about double up, 630 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: like you double up on positions of need. And so 631 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: if you're now deeming that maybe two isn't the guy, 632 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: well let's double up. Let's bring in another good guy 633 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: and if the good guy can play and overwhelms, and 634 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: then he gets the gig. Years ago, the c L 635 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: Shawks did it in a way with Russell Wilson and 636 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: Matth Flandy. They spent big money to get Matt Flann 637 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: and free agency. They bring Russell Wilson and Russell Wilson. 638 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: I plays Matth Flyan Russell Wilson as a starter. Matt 639 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: Flynn has to hang in there and then eventually move on. 640 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: But the cost of doing business shouldn't prevent you from 641 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: doing the Businesussell Wilson was a third round pick. We're 642 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: talking about the third overall pick, so that changes it 643 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: changes it a little bit. But I mean, look, we've 644 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: talked about it with Trevor Lawrence, Justin Field, Zack Wilson 645 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: trade lance. We believe there's four guys have a really 646 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: good shot of going in the top ten. And if 647 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: you think any of those four are better than what 648 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: you got right now, I think the organization. You owe 649 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: it to the organization at least at the minimum, you 650 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: better do your due diligence on all these dudes. Um 651 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: and if you feel like it's an upgrade, you should 652 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: take him. So that's that's that we weren't even this 653 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: is the best part about the pod. It's the stuff 654 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: we don't have on the on the paper here. We 655 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: just kind of free flowed and found ourselves into an 656 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: interesting conversation. All right, let's get to coach Meyer here, 657 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: because there's been a lot of talk about Urban Meyer 658 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: potentially being interested in one of these NFL jobs. We've 659 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: had a chance to talk to him a couple of 660 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: times and wanted to play a little bit of a 661 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: bite here on Urban Meyer. What he told us what 662 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: a championship culture entails. Coach Obviously, you want the more 663 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: successful coach who've ever done in college football. You've run 664 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: around multiple programs, you've had national championships, at a couple 665 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: of different places. When you think about building a championship culture, 666 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: what does that entail? It's a lot of work. It's 667 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: something that I think is one of the most overused 668 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: words in the English language. I don't think people understand 669 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: it to say that I really did. I did not 670 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: as a young coach, and I think culture is everything, 671 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: and I actually talked quite a bit on that when 672 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: you teach a class in leadership and so, for example, 673 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: culture to me, I know there's many definitions. Culture to 674 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: me is what does your product or what does your team? 675 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: What does your organization look like? What does it feel like? 676 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: And what does it act like? And not necessarily when 677 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: you're winning by forty points against f a U, it's 678 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: what's it look like in the rivalry game? What's it 679 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: looked like? And feel like? An act like on fourth 680 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: down and two or in the stock market turns upside down, 681 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: you know. And and culture is it's got to be 682 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: the vision of the CEO or the man the head coach. 683 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 1: And you can't really you can't waiver on your culture. 684 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: So I think it's it's you look at all successful programs. 685 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: I think that's one of the reasons why I high 686 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: a state is so successful, and we built a culture 687 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: that survives our adversity, that survives early entry in the 688 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: NFL draft, a coaching change, and I think culture is 689 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: essential to you look at the Patriots and you can say, boy, 690 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: they got a great coach, They've got a great you know, 691 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: great players. Absolutely, that's true. But names someone who doesn't 692 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: have a great coach and a great player in the NFL. 693 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: They're all great. The thing that makes the New England 694 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: Patriots unique is their culture developed by Bill Belichick. Is 695 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: survives transition of players, survives injuries, and it's culture. Every 696 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: place that you go, do you build the culture a 697 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: little differently based on what the history of the program 698 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: is or is it something that is in you that 699 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: you have a core set of things that you believe 700 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: in and the program kind of follows today. Right, A 701 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: great crush question. And I appreciate you asking because these 702 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: are by the way, you guys are great. These are real. 703 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: Sometimes I do interviews and it's like a clown show. 704 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: Now this is this is really good stuff. So building 705 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: a culture, this is where the culture has to be 706 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: yours first of all, respect what was there before? However, 707 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: and I'm going to give you the speech. It's you 708 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: need to believe it. You need to sell it, and 709 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: you need to demand it. So believe it. It has 710 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: to be an objective truth. For example, if I walked 711 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: into place and I said, if we throw for more 712 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: yards then the other team will win, that's a lie. 713 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: That's not true. You know the culture at O how 714 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: State we built, I can go through it with you 715 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: is all. It's time tested, it's built on objective truths, 716 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: it's built on history, it's built on experience, and I 717 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: can share that with At the end, then you have 718 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: to sell it. We're in a world right now that 719 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: back when I played, your coach said do something, you 720 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: did it. Not now you can just say this is 721 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: the way it is. You have to sell it over 722 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: and we use social media, we use messaging constantly selling 723 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: our culture. And then there reaches a point with your 724 00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: staff and your players that you have to demand it 725 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: and if you're not living under our culture, you have 726 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: to leave. And so let's believe it's sell it demanded 727 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: the culture at the House State. I always had a 728 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: vision and a dream that we would play fearless. And 729 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: I've worked at so many places where the players were 730 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: scared to make mistakes. And so my first part. We 731 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: had three parts of the culture, and number one is 732 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: for it's called relentless effort. The sound bite is four 733 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: to six A to B. That's the length of a play, 734 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: and everybody has a point, A and point. But you 735 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: go as hard as you can. If you make a mistake, 736 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: no problem. But that's a sound bite that I know 737 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: our players had constantly going through their mind during the 738 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: course the game is I don't care if I'll make 739 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: a mistake. You know, you go as hard as you can. 740 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: And I've had you know, I've been criticized that similar 741 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: teams have had penalties over the years, and I would 742 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: be okay with penalties as long as it was non 743 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: effort related. Now stupid penalties had a problem with But 744 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: if you're going to go as hard as you can, 745 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: you can't say but don't make any mistakes, because then 746 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: players in conflict. The number two is called competitive excellence, 747 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: and that's in John win is um and that's I 748 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: want you to embrace. We're gonna work harder than anybody 749 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: else in America, and I don't want you to complain 750 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: about it. I don't want you to worry about it. 751 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: You know, I tell me recruiting that you are going 752 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: to be rewarded and the NFL most likely, and we're 753 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: gonna win. Just do what we ask you to do. 754 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: It's going to be the most miserable, hard stuff you've 755 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: ever done, but embrace it. And then the final piece 756 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: is it's called power of the unit, and the greatest 757 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 1: form of I use the word inspiration instead of motivation 758 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 1: because motivation is short lived. Inspiration is long lives and sustains, 759 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: and it's love. The greatest form of motivation is the 760 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: brotherhood and that's used in the special forces, that used 761 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: in the best forms of corporate America, and the best 762 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: teams and the best units are those that love each 763 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: other and care about each other. So that's the culture 764 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: of a hostage. How about that? I mean, that was 765 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: one of our favorite interviews that we've ever done. Um again, 766 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 1: those three things four to six A to B. I 767 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: love that competitive excellence, power of the unit, inspiration over motivation, 768 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 1: and love being kind of the key gradient there. I've 769 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 1: seen some people say Orban Mayer wouldn't work at the 770 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: NFL level, he doesn't have NFL experience. Your nuts, Urban 771 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 1: Myers not done nothing, but when at the highest level, 772 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: doesn't matter whether he's Green, if he's at Utah, Florida, 773 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: Ohio State and I guess what it happens fast, doesn't matter. 774 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: DJ absolutely believe I would be the first one to 775 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 1: raise my hand and say Urban Mina could absolutely get 776 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: it done in the National Football League. Um. The only 777 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 1: concern would obviously be like the health concerns that have 778 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: plagued him in the past. But he is a program builder, 779 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: and we talked about how important it is to have 780 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: someone in this seat that can build a program because 781 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: depending on the NFL job that is currently available, you 782 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: have to go in there and you have to build 783 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: a program. And so from a cultural standpoint, that is 784 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: everybody in the building has to understand what the objectives are. 785 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: And so he is very very clear and definitive in 786 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 1: what he believes in because he has a proven, approven 787 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: track record. We've seen bowling Green Utah, Florida, Ohio State. 788 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: I have a I have measurable things that I can 789 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 1: see where he has put this into place and has 790 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 1: been very very successful. Because he has done it, he 791 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: is very clear about this is how we're going to 792 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,800 Speaker 1: get it done and I think that it has to 793 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 1: be someone who doesn't have questions and concerns or is 794 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 1: this right? Should we do this? Is no, here's how 795 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: we doing it, and we're going we may make some 796 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: adjustments along the way, but I know exactly what this 797 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 1: looks like and how we're going to be able to 798 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: get it done. And I absolutely believe that he can 799 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 1: do it. And they're a handful of other coaches that 800 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:36,959 Speaker 1: I believe you could do it. I think Brian Kelly 801 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 1: could go somewhere into the National Football League and do it. 802 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: I think the name that we have talked about on 803 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 1: this podcast, Matt Campbell from Iowa State, I think he 804 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: could come in and do it because we've seen him 805 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: do it. And they are what we call cultural builders, 806 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,280 Speaker 1: detailed their detailed people too, and and and it comes 807 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 1: after that. And so I have the most confidence that 808 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,399 Speaker 1: if you decided to take a job, depending upon the job, 809 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: that he absolute would have success. And I think that 810 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: was success would come pretty quickly. And I think too, 811 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: the odds are you're going to have somebody on your 812 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: team that he coached at Ohio State because they're everywhere. Um, 813 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: it's gonna give you immediate credibility because you have them 814 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 1: in the building right now. And guess what, if you don't, 815 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 1: you can call on Alex Smith. You can call it 816 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,839 Speaker 1: Joey Bost. So you can call any of these guys 817 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 1: all over the NFL and they will all vouch for 818 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: how good this dude is. So I know, I know 819 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 1: there's some things that happened. You know, obviously, we know 820 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 1: it's well documented some things that happening there at Florida 821 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,760 Speaker 1: and uh, and you know you gotta answer those questions 822 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: and do your homework on that. But man, this guy 823 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 1: has done nothing. But when DJ it reminds me a 824 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 1: lot of Jimmy Johnson going from the University of Miami 825 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 1: and taking over to Dallas Cowboys, And there were a 826 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: lot of Hurricanes that were in the league and a 827 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,840 Speaker 1: lot of Hurricanes that could co sign on his methis 828 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 1: and those things, and there were Hurricanes on the Dallas team, 829 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: and that those guys were core players that hip that 830 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,760 Speaker 1: thing kind of flip. And so I just believe Irban 831 00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 1: Myers confidence, his unwavering belief and process and program he 832 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,439 Speaker 1: would have success. And I know people are gonna say, yeah, yeah, yeah, 833 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,399 Speaker 1: we've heard that before. We've seen these college coaches fail. Uh. 834 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 1: Nick Saban wasn't able to turn around the Miami Dolphins. 835 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: But I'll say, if you go back and look closely 836 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 1: at those Miami Dolphins teams, Um, the mistake on the quarterback, 837 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 1: the Dante Cole Pepper Drew Brees thing or whatever didn't 838 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,439 Speaker 1: work out, but even then, they were trending the right way. 839 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 1: So I just believe that those guys understand how to 840 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: get it done, and they will find a way to 841 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 1: get it done. And it's just about hiring the right 842 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 1: coaches for him to do it, because he's the visionary, 843 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: and I think it's important to have someone who has 844 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: the vision and understands the process that's needed to get it, uh, 845 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: to go from dream to fruition. I'm trying to find 846 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,760 Speaker 1: the age. I'm looking at the age of Jimmy Johnson 847 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 1: when the Cowboys hired him, because I think that is 848 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: absolutely the perfect comparison. I think Jimmy Johnson might have 849 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 1: been a little bit younger UM at that time, but 850 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: I haven't I haven't been able to. Oh here it is. Uh. 851 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones a longtime friend and said so Jerry Jones 852 00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: and him played together so I think Jerry Jones was 853 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: forty six when they hired him, so he had to 854 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 1: have been he was forty six. John Jimmy Johnson was 855 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 1: forty six when he took over to Dallas. Guy was 856 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 1: I just looked it up on all let's see how 857 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,320 Speaker 1: Urban has got to be early fifties. Urban Meyers fifty six, 858 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 1: so he's a little bit older. But still, I mean, 859 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: even I'm telling you, even if in Urban has kind 860 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: of had this track record of going obviously hard and 861 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,359 Speaker 1: they've had these health issues pop up, if you told 862 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:25,919 Speaker 1: me right now, Urban Meyer is gonna be your coach 863 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,320 Speaker 1: for the next four years. Done four years, I'll establish 864 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 1: a whole whole culture here, We'll win a whole lot 865 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: of football games, and hopefully you have the next guy 866 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 1: groomed on staff to take over. But I mean, he's 867 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 1: the fifty six is still young man for a coach, 868 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: Still still still very young. And I know the demands 869 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,800 Speaker 1: are different, whatever, But I just believe that those guys 870 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: understand it. You know, they kind of understand the process. 871 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: They know how to flip it and get it going. 872 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 1: And I think DJ We've been privy to a lot 873 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: of conversations over the last couple of years with a 874 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: lot of coaches, and I think the common denominated between 875 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 1: the coaches that we talked to one day all were 876 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,800 Speaker 1: extremely successful. But I think when we hung up the 877 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,359 Speaker 1: phone or they clicked off and we it was just us. 878 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 1: We were like, yep, I can understand why they win. 879 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 1: I can understand why they win. Everybody that we've had 880 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 1: come through when they talked about it, from Brian Kelly, 881 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 1: urban Meyer, Mac Brown, Devil Sweeney, uh James Franklin and others, 882 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 1: there's something about like there clear vision I saw with 883 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: Jamie Chadwell from Coastal Carolina when he came on. Yeah, 884 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,800 Speaker 1: I mean like all those guys like I mean sadder Field, 885 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 1: like they understand exactly what they're looking for and we 886 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 1: can talk about well, yeah that's college. College is different, 887 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 1: Like no, I really don't think. I mean, the players 888 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,799 Speaker 1: are a little older, but it's the same, like it's 889 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,919 Speaker 1: it's it's the same stuff. The football is the same, 890 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 1: Like it is about building a program that enables guys 891 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 1: to be at their best when it's required. And so 892 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 1: I believe some guys understand how to do that and 893 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 1: in some of these situations that we see I would 894 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 1: rather take my chances on someone who is a proven 895 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,760 Speaker 1: program builder than a guy who I'm trying to hope 896 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,840 Speaker 1: can do that from being a core nator on offense 897 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 1: or defense to to oversee an entire operation. You hit 898 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 1: him with the question what's your culture? Like? Did he 899 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 1: stutter bo Nope? And here here, here's the other thing, DJ. 900 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 1: Because I'll have a little confession, Um, I am fascinated 901 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 1: by the leadership stuff. I happen to click on a 902 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 1: podcast that he uh co host with a guy Tim Kite, 903 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: and it was funny. I was listening to it because 904 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 1: he was talking about turnaround a program or whatever. DJ. 905 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,320 Speaker 1: He said the same exact things right, the same exact things, 906 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 1: the same alignment. So the reason I bring it up 907 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: I had a chance. We had Matt Rule come and 908 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: and talk to us on the podcast. I happen to 909 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 1: get invited to a webinar that he was putting on. 910 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 1: He said the same exact stuff. And so when things 911 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 1: are aligned, you have a belief, Oh, these guys really 912 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: believe what they're saying, Like this is not just oh 913 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 1: coach speak. I'm standing in front of a clinic, Like 914 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 1: they truly believe it. And you can tell because it's 915 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,319 Speaker 1: not all a PowerPoint presentation. Is the core values that 916 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: they really believe a tough, hardworking, competitive this is what 917 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: we do, This is how we play all those things. 918 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 1: And I think it takes time because you don't have 919 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: it right away your first job. But I think over 920 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 1: time you know exactly what it is, and I think 921 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 1: it's easy to put it in place. Yeah, no doubt, 922 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: and he knows who he is and what he's about 923 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 1: and it works. Um. All right, Anything you want to 924 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,799 Speaker 1: add before we get out of here? Back, No, that's 925 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 1: a good one, man. I think anytime we have an 926 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,439 Speaker 1: opportunity to talk about like the team building discussion, because 927 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,479 Speaker 1: I think it's important. That's what we have always wanted 928 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 1: to be, like the leadership part, the team building part, 929 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 1: Like that'st depart other process that lured us into scouting 930 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 1: initially and why we continue to want to share those 931 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 1: lessons with the listeners. If you were a betting man, 932 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 1: what were the odds that I was not going to 933 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 1: bring up the padres during this podcast today? I knew 934 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 1: it was no chance because I saw they made a 935 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 1: couple of different moves, and because you're so fascinated with 936 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,319 Speaker 1: your own team, the Padres, and how they're building it 937 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: and how they're committing to I will say this. I 938 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,800 Speaker 1: will say this, and I know, like your baseball buddies, 939 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: come on and I need to tap into some of that. 940 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,839 Speaker 1: I do believe this, and I would love to talk 941 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 1: to them about it. So my experience, I am not 942 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 1: a Braves fan, right, I'm not a Braves fan, but 943 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,359 Speaker 1: growing up in North Carolina, the Braves were the only 944 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 1: team in town in terms of being able to watch 945 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: them on TV. But I watched how the Braves and 946 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 1: we talked to Johns most about this. The Braves lorded 947 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: over their division because they had dominant pitching and so 948 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,319 Speaker 1: for I mean just titles after titles after titles when 949 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,319 Speaker 1: it came to division titles. I'm looking at your little Padres. 950 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,759 Speaker 1: Continue to add these arms to the war chest. And 951 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 1: there's something to it, particularly with like the analytical slant 952 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,320 Speaker 1: and the way people are going, dude, there is something 953 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 1: to it. I'm not saying it's a Dodger fan that 954 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,359 Speaker 1: I'm nervous, but I'm mindful of what's going on down 955 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,280 Speaker 1: down the road. I'm just mindful. You watch the Dodgers 956 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 1: are gonna trade for like Ernado, they're gonna do something big, 957 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 1: that's what they do. They answer, that's because you make 958 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 1: them do it. That's why. Because if you wouldn't keep 959 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 1: adding to the war, now keep adding, so now now 960 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 1: you have to do. We might be we might be 961 00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 1: little brother, but I think we are the second best 962 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 1: team and in the National League, if not all of 963 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 1: baseball right now. And and they're they're pushing the Dodgers. 964 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 1: The Dodgers might take their game even up to a 965 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 1: whole another level. But it's fun to actually be a 966 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 1: fan of a team that's in the fight, Like we're 967 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 1: not just gonna take it here, We're gonna try and 968 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 1: compete and try and fight the other thing. I want 969 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 1: to give you real quick last baseball thing and then 970 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 1: we'll get out of here. Um. As a Padre fan, 971 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:23,360 Speaker 1: I saw a thing circulating yesterday. So tattoos Fernando tattoos Probably, 972 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 1: I would say it's not really even arguable. Was the 973 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,839 Speaker 1: most exciting player in baseball who is going to be 974 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 1: the face of this sport for probably the next decade. 975 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 1: Buck he's playing winner ball and the Dominican right now 976 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 1: laying out going over the fence like catching balls he's 977 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 1: after the game was over. They won their little series 978 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 1: there all he's with all the guys dancing in the clubhouse. 979 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 1: Like I was thinking just that little lesson there, like, man, 980 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 1: find somebody that loves football the way this dude loves 981 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 1: just playing baseball. So it's funny we didn't talk about this. 982 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 1: Maybe we can talk about on the on the next podcast, 983 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,400 Speaker 1: Like we didn't talk about Dwayne Haskins and death stuff 984 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 1: on that. But it made me think a out about 985 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 1: that stuff in terms of like what can I learn 986 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 1: from the entire evaluation whatever. Find someone who loves it. 987 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 1: And if I'm a team builder, I want the person 988 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 1: that I'm entrusting to love it and being invested in 989 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 1: winning as much as I am invested in winning. And 990 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 1: I think with Tatis, I think that is what you 991 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 1: talk about, and that is why as a fan you 992 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 1: absolutely love him because he is invested as you are 993 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 1: in the five ray success. All Right, put a pin 994 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,400 Speaker 1: in that we're gonna we're gonna hit that on the 995 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 1: next episode. We're gonna have another episode coming up here 996 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 1: in a couple of days, and we'll continue on that conversation. 997 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 1: Professional Teas by Bucky brooks All right, that's gonna do 998 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:35,959 Speaker 1: it for us. Thank you guys so much for listening 999 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 1: to move the six. We'll catch you next time, right here, 1000 00:45:42,560 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 1: yea two two