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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody. Tuesday edition of the Clay Travison Buck Section

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Speaker 1: Show gets off to a fantastic start right now. We're

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Speaker 1: very excited to have you all with us. A lot

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Speaker 1: of stories to dive into. Those campus protests still insane,

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Speaker 1: insane in the membrane. They are doing crazy stuff on

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Speaker 1: these campus sees. So we will look at what the

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Speaker 1: latest is. We will look at what the GW campus

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Speaker 1: is going to do as a result of the defacing.

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Speaker 1: It is the George Washington University campus where Clay is

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Speaker 1: a distinguished alumni. Why don't they ask you to come speak?

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Speaker 1: By the way, what kind of nonsense.

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Speaker 2: Is I've never been invited to speak. They've asked me

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Speaker 2: for a lot of money, I will say, to be

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Speaker 2: fair to them, the athletic department has hosted me for

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Speaker 2: a basketball game before, but I've never been in It

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Speaker 2: is kind of funny to think about never been invited

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Speaker 2: to bring you to a basketball game though, So what

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Speaker 2: I'm a sports guy. I mean, wouldn't you think they

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Speaker 2: would invite me to speak? I mean, how many people

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Speaker 2: of my age that graduated from GW have have done.

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Speaker 1: More in media? I mean, you know why? You know

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Speaker 1: why that's I was invited to speak at Amherst before

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Speaker 1: I ever did media. When I was in the CIA,

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Speaker 1: they wanted me to call up and give speeches, and

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Speaker 1: they invite me since I started, since I went to

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Speaker 1: work for Glenn at the Blaze. Never again, never since

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Speaker 1: then have they reached out.

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Speaker 2: So you and GW can want as many successful alums

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Speaker 2: to come to campus, regardless of how they are are successful, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean that seems like a no brainer to me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, except if you're a communist, you don't care about

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Speaker 1: success or truth. So GW campus has defaced the GW

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Speaker 1: statue George himself, that's right, Father of the nation. They

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Speaker 1: have defaced that statue. So on the one hand, we

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Speaker 1: continue to talk about the ideology, the toxic ideas of

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Speaker 1: the left and how they're playing on on these campuses.

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Speaker 1: But also there's a part of me that's like they

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Speaker 1: campuses in terms of the administrations being in disarray and

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Speaker 1: the whole thing being a mess. We shall discuss plus

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Speaker 1: a meeting with Trump and DeSantis. I think we told

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Speaker 1: you here many times. Even with things we're a little

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Speaker 1: and DeSantis camps of supporters during the primary. Said they're

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Speaker 1: going they're gonna hug it out and they're gonna be

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Speaker 1: on the same team for the benefit of the country.

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Speaker 1: And sure enough, Trump himself has said great meeting, ron

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Speaker 1: fully on board, MAGA. And we'll break some of that

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Speaker 1: down for you because I and also it's a little

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Speaker 1: bit of we promised you what would happen. Some of

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Speaker 1: you doubted it, but it is in fact what is

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Speaker 1: going on. Statement from ut on how they're handling the protests.

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Speaker 1: I think that's particularly interesting. If we have time, we'll

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Speaker 1: get to this Arizona rancher who was charged in the

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Speaker 1: shooting of a of an illegal on his property, who

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Speaker 1: will not be retry after a jury was deadlocked. I

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Speaker 1: think that's an interesting story. Goes back away as we

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Speaker 1: talked to you about it, I think a couple of

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Speaker 1: years ago, now, maybe a year ago, two years ago.

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Speaker 1: And we've got a lot more, but Clay, let's start

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Speaker 1: with this one. We haven't heard much from Nancy Pelosi

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Speaker 1: these days. You know, Nancy's been a little quiet. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, she's taken some naps to sleep it off.

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Speaker 1: After a third bottle of chardonnay, and Nancy showed up

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Speaker 1: on MSNBC. If there's one thing it would be hard

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Speaker 1: talking to Katie Terr, who apparently still works in media.

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Speaker 1: Pelosi was not happy with this exchange. We want to

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Speaker 1: the economy is right now. This is cut six.

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Speaker 3: There are those who have religitimate concerns about immigration, globalization,

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Speaker 3: their family's future. And we have to those concerns. And

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden is doing that created nine million jobs in

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Speaker 3: his tournament office. Donald Trump as the worst record of

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Speaker 3: job loss of any president. So we just have to

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Speaker 3: make sure people know that was a global pandemic. He

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Speaker 3: concerns in our country. If you want to be an

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Speaker 3: apologist for Donald Trump, that may be your role, but

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Speaker 1: So first of all, so nasty, and I think it's

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Speaker 1: because she's looking at Katie Turr like you're a propagandist

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Speaker 1: What could be more dishonest than claiming that the pandemic

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Speaker 2: I think it's illustrative of how many Democrat are arguments

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Speaker 2: because in February of twenty twenty, right before COVID overtook

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Speaker 2: lowest unemployment rate, virtually no inflation, lowest mortgage rates, highest

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Speaker 2: But this was also emblematic to me of what happened

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Speaker 2: to Gavin Newsom. When Gavin Newsom debated Ron DeSantis and

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Speaker 2: got completely and totally filayed in the Sean Hannity primetime special.

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Speaker 2: It was because Hannity didn't really do anything other than

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Speaker 2: present facts. But Gavin Newsom lives in that alternative facts

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Speaker 2: universe of MSNBC and CNN, and he walked right into

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Speaker 2: every respect. And so when that's actually pointed out and

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Speaker 2: when you have to deal with it, Democrats don't react

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Speaker 2: very well. In fact, Nancy Pelosi really kind of lost

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Speaker 2: MSNBC and then called Katie Turror Trump propagandist for pointing out, Hey,

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Speaker 2: you know, COVID was going on, and they've made this

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Speaker 2: argument because Biden came back in, they started to open

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Speaker 2: take away the people who just got to go back

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Speaker 2: to the jobs that they already had, is actually in

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Speaker 2: illegal immigrants. The number of new American citizen jobs that

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Speaker 2: have existed during Joe Biden's tenure is not very substantial

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Speaker 2: at all. So they're cooking the books here to make

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Speaker 2: Biden's economic numbers look better than they actually are, and the.

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Speaker 1: Numbers still aren't that great. Well, to say that the

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Speaker 1: worst job losses in history occurred under Donald Trump, when

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Speaker 1: the truth is it was a pandemic, and that the

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Speaker 1: criticism of Trump from the Democrats, including from Nancy Pelosi,

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Speaker 1: just requires Nancy Pelosi just spewing this venom of stupidity,

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Speaker 1: Trumpet comedy was fantastic. Joe Biden's economy stinks. Everybody knows it.

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Speaker 1: And so what Pelosi does is tried out that talking point.

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Speaker 1: There's that, but then there's also this Pelosi saying that

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Speaker 1: after the election, Democrats and they've said this about other

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Speaker 1: things before, but that they would be willing to nuke

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Speaker 1: the filibuster and go for a national abortion law. Seven

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Speaker 4: And if President Biden gets re elected and there's a

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Speaker 3: Very clearly, we can line into the wall Roe v.

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Speaker 4: That would take two thirds in the Senate. I think

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Speaker 3: Doesn't get two thirds, that doesn't I mean sixty votes

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Speaker 1: First of all, that would be inviting the just continued

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Speaker 1: You would have this back and forth over something as

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Speaker 1: even beyond that, I do think that Clay the Democrats

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Speaker 1: it's on this issue. It may be, but it is

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Speaker 1: just a matter of time. Let's not forget it was

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Speaker 2: I also think it would be a funny response to

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Speaker 2: You know, FDR had a really rough record when it

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Speaker 1: It almost felt like Nancy was about to fall out

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Speaker 1: Biden's behind in every swing stack. Right now in the polls,

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Speaker 1: Biden is losing ground with each passing day. This is

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Speaker 1: not going the way the Democrats. I really think now

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Speaker 1: we're deep enough into the legal stuff that we can

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Speaker 1: think that they are panicked because I don't have any

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Speaker 2: It's turned into potentially the most destructive own goal in

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Speaker 2: modern American political history. Now there's still six months out.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about some of the latest numbers. So maybe

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Speaker 2: they still think they're going to get some benefit of it.

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Speaker 2: But right now Trump has painted them into a corner.

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Speaker 2: And even these discussions about contempt of court I think

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Speaker 2: are making the Democrats look worse. We'll talk about all

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Speaker 2: that more in the meantime. Twenty dollars doesn't buy you

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Speaker 2: nearly what it once did. Hey, especially in California, where

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Speaker 2: you get paid twenty dollars an hour now to work

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Speaker 2: in a fast food restaurant. And as a result, I

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Speaker 2: was just reading Chick fil A price is up ten

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Speaker 2: I think it's ultimately working to Trump's favor. And according

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Speaker 2: to Mark Simon, maybe helping Trump to make a case.

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Speaker 1: To win New York.

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Speaker 2: That would be the ultimate kick in the teeth thing

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Speaker 2: here if let's say, Buck that we got a mistrial,

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Speaker 2: which there's a twenty percent chance of according to the

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Speaker 2: gambling market's polymarket, and then Trump were able to make

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Speaker 2: New York competitive because they forced him to stay up

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Speaker 2: here for six or eight weeks, and he kept going

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Speaker 2: out a meeting with the construction workers, and he kept

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Speaker 2: going and meeting with all the different people all over.

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Speaker 1: Remember they cheered him in Harlem.

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Speaker 2: I this is why I started off the show by saying,

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Speaker 2: tomorrow is May one. I think there's starting to be

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Speaker 2: a legit panic among Democrats as they look. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we talked about this was it last week? I believe

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Speaker 2: Axios reported that there now when Biden walks to and

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Speaker 2: from the helicopter, trying to surround him with aids because

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Speaker 2: he looks to infirm if he walks by himself. I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is this is a panic. Imagine that's your election

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Speaker 2: strategy is, let's just not let people see the guy

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Speaker 2: who is the President of the United States by himself

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Speaker 2: very often.

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Speaker 1: This whole thing is a farce, meaning the Biden presidency.

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Speaker 1: The fact that they elected this guy in the first

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Speaker 1: place was really in response, I think to the unique

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Speaker 1: circumstances of the pandemic and the fact that they thought

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Speaker 1: that they could get away with him not presenting himself

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Speaker 1: to the American people, they could control the entire national narrative.

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Speaker 1: This is it's absurd. I mean, this is absurd in

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Speaker 1: the truest sense, that Joe Biden was president already and

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Speaker 1: that he's running again, and at some point people enough

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Speaker 1: people wake up to this reality. I think we may

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Speaker 1: be there. But I'm also I'm concerned because it was

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Speaker 1: almost as crazy in twenty twenty in a lot of ways,

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Speaker 1: it's only a little crazier now because we've seen more

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Speaker 1: of him. We know he's not a uniter, we know

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Speaker 1: he's a divider, we know he's bad at the job.

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Speaker 1: We know his family's corrupt, we know his son should

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Speaker 1: be in prison. Like we know all of these things now,

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Speaker 1: and yet really this guy was president, Like this is

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Speaker 1: the best the Democrats have. I know, people can like

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Speaker 1: Trump or not like Trump or whatever. I understand that

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Speaker 1: there's all this that he invokes, all this passionate people

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Speaker 1: He's a remarkable guy, you know what I mean. He's

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Speaker 1: not a heck of a life. He's not some boring,

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Speaker 1: shiftless machine politician who or shifty, I should say, machine

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Speaker 1: politician who hasn't had an original thought or real victory

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Speaker 1: to call his own his entire life.

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Speaker 2: That's why I went back and listened to the Howard

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Speaker 2: Stern interview with Biden. I just wanted to hear it

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Speaker 2: because we haven't, frankly heard Biden talk for very long.

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Speaker 1: Are you changing your opinion on Howard Stern in general?

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Speaker 1: By the way, I'm gonna start sending to you more stuff.

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Speaker 1: Howard Stern's gotten away with a lot of people thinking

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Speaker 1: a lot of things about him that were never really true.

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Speaker 1: On what I respected was the ability to redefine the

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Speaker 1: way that you do radio. Regardless of what you think

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Speaker 1: about what he says. There was a rebelliousness in his

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Speaker 1: in the same way that I think you could say

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Speaker 1: Rush redefine the way you do radio. I think Howard

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Speaker 1: Stern and Rush are the most legendary people in our

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Speaker 1: lives to do radio. Rush guns his whole life. Howard Stern,

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Speaker 1: it's building on what you said. It's one thing that.

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Speaker 2: It's one thing to say that you don't like Trump.

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Speaker 2: I don't agree with that. But if Howard Stern's position

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Speaker 2: was just I don't like Trump, I'd be like, this

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Speaker 2: is a weird hill to die on. But for him

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Speaker 2: to say Biden has been a great president. Do we

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Speaker 2: have that audio?

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Speaker 1: That's what we do, and we've got a great We've

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Speaker 1: got great Kamala audio too. Oh yeah, I don't even

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Speaker 1: know that Drew Barrymore had a show, but we'll she

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Speaker 1: has a show, appairent. We'll get into this. But if

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Speaker 1: you don't want to be a pathetic campus protester who's like, eh,

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Speaker 1: why are they coming and spaying me with the pepper spray?

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Speaker 1: Because you demand?

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Speaker 2: Did they do this?

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Speaker 1: You demand?

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 5: Truth Seeking, Reality Telling The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We are

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Speaker 2: scheduled in the year term here and are now joined

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Speaker 2: by the Attorney General of Texas, Ken Paxton. He is

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Speaker 2: with us from New York City, where I believe he

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Speaker 2: has spent part of today so far with Donald Trump,

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Speaker 2: who is in the courtroom today in New York City

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Speaker 2: dealing with the insane lawfair that is continuing to play

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Speaker 2: itself out there, and you got a bunch you want

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Speaker 2: to talk about with us, and we appreciate you coming on,

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Speaker 2: Attorney General of Texas, Ken Paxton, but I actually want

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Speaker 2: to start with you. You have been through, maybe more

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Speaker 2: than almost anyone, lawfair of an unprecedented degree with people

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Speaker 2: coming after you in the state of Texas. Have you

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Speaker 2: talked about that with Trump walked through what happened to

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Speaker 2: you and is there any lesson that you can draw

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Speaker 2: from what happened to you that you think could be

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Speaker 2: applied to what Trump is going through right now?

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Speaker 8: Oh? Absolutely.

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Speaker 7: As a matter of fact, I was literally just talking

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Speaker 7: to them and I walked out we're eating lunch to

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Speaker 7: go get on this radio show. And that's something we've

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Speaker 7: talked about often about how many times since I've been

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Speaker 7: in office, how many times they've come after me. And

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Speaker 7: the goal is they try to wear you down, They

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Speaker 7: try to drain you of your resources, They try to

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Speaker 7: use the media to force you to resign without ever

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Speaker 7: proving anything, and they just it is so frustrating that

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Speaker 7: we're having to deal with this and I'm sitting here

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Speaker 7: listening to this trial today and I'm like, this is

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Speaker 7: just a waste of time, weeks and weeks of just

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Speaker 7: wasting people's times and putting President Trump under stress that

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Speaker 7: he shouldn't have to be enter.

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Speaker 8: It's it's sad.

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Speaker 7: I'm little sitting here thinking it's just sad that we're

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Speaker 7: at this place in our country where the left use

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Speaker 7: of the court system not to promote justice, not to

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Speaker 7: enforce the rule of law, but to try to take

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Speaker 7: out political opponents. And that's exactly what they're doing to him.

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Speaker 7: They've done it to me.

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Speaker 1: General Paxton, thanks for being with us. What do you

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Speaker 1: what are your your hopes here as you're observing firsthand

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Speaker 1: what's going on in New York, if the system is

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Speaker 1: going to maintain any sense of integrity and if people

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Speaker 1: are going to be able to have any belief in

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Speaker 1: its fairness going forward, Clearly you can't get a guilty

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Speaker 1: verdict against Donald Trump because that would just be giving

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Speaker 1: the law fair crowd exactly what they want. But are

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Speaker 1: there any things that we should expect in terms of

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Speaker 1: what the Trump defense is going to be putting forward,

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Speaker 1: either as as claims or as motions in the court

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Speaker 1: that you think could help bring about at least a

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Speaker 1: hung jury, if not an acquittal.

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Speaker 7: So I'm not necessarily part of their their legal strategy.

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Speaker 7: I just wanted to come show support for the president

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Speaker 7: and then speak out generally on the issue of what's

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Speaker 7: going on here. I mean, we know that he's in

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Speaker 7: a place where it's difficult to win. He's going to

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Speaker 7: judge that is probably.

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Speaker 1: How's well, then tell me this, how's he doing? I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you don't want to get into the

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Speaker 1: strategy aspect of it, I mean, how'ses how's his state

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Speaker 1: of mind? The whole thing. It just must be like

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Speaker 1: he's living in some Kafka nightmare.

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Speaker 7: Well, look, he I think it's frustrating to him that

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Speaker 7: he can't get out on the campaign trail he's running

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Speaker 7: for I mean, think about it. They time this so

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Speaker 7: that he would occur while he's running for president, and

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Speaker 7: I say, this didn't happen three years ago, This didn't

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Speaker 7: happen two years ago, it didn'tven happen a year ago.

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Speaker 7: It's happening right now, right before presidential election. And I

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Speaker 7: think that's very, very frustrating to him. But I will

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Speaker 7: say this, he's he's a very upbeat guy. Despite the

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Speaker 7: fact that they are trying to destroy his life. I

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Speaker 7: mean literally, he's one of the most upbeat people I've

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Speaker 7: ever met, and he's so resilient. I'm really proud of him.

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Speaker 2: We're talking to the Attorney General of Texas, Ken Paxton

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Speaker 2: right now. In addition to the lawfair that's going on

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Speaker 2: with Trump, you've got all sorts of craziness breaking out

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Speaker 2: on university campuses just up the road from where you

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Speaker 2: guys are now at Columbia, but also back in the

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Speaker 2: state of Texas, at the University of Texas at Austin,

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Speaker 2: and I believe at Rice among others. What should happen

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Speaker 2: to anti Israel protesters in your mind? And how much

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Speaker 2: would you like to have the authority to resolve what's

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Speaker 2: going on at Columbia and NY you right now? How

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Speaker 2: easy would it be to apply the law and in

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Speaker 2: these protests if blue city and blue state attorney generals

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Speaker 2: and law enforcement were willing to do so.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, And there's a big difference between exercising your First

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Speaker 7: Amendment right. I think everybody has a right to speak

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Speaker 7: on whatever they wanted to speak about, until you start

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Speaker 7: threatening other people and you start causing harm to other people,

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Speaker 7: like blocking roads. They should never be allowed to block roads.

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Speaker 7: They should be arrested if they're putting people at risk,

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Speaker 7: they're slowing down transportation.

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Speaker 8: There are places you can protest.

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Speaker 7: And people should have every right to have their beliefs

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Speaker 7: and say what they believe. This is a free country

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Speaker 7: and we have a First Amendment. But when you start

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Speaker 7: threatening other people and you start causing harm to other people,

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Speaker 7: you should be arrested for that harm. And that's not

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Speaker 7: happening in this country.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: There's a report out and I don't know if you've

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Speaker 2: gotten this report yourself or if you have some idea

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Speaker 2: of it, but this is Lily Kepner.

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Speaker 1: I shared this on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: A source at University of Texas Austin tells me of

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Speaker 2: the seventy seven arrests at yesterday's protest, forty six were

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Speaker 2: not Texas students. I believe that's around sixty percent of

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Speaker 2: the arrests not Texas students. When you see these protests

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Speaker 2: happening all over the place, and you see a lot

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Speaker 2: of these green pup tints suddenly emerge all over the

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Speaker 2: place as well, a lot of our listeners, a lot

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Speaker 2: of us think there's a lot of money being put

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Speaker 2: behind this. These are not oftentimes college kids. If these

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Speaker 2: numbers are accurate at Texas, how much of this is

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Speaker 2: a nationwide issue? And should there be an investigation into

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Speaker 2: who's funding these protests and how these all came about,

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Speaker 2: because it sure feels very organized that this would suddenly

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and it reminds me very much of what happened

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Speaker 7: when we had a Blum protests and Antifa protests. As

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Speaker 7: we well know now, many of these people are being

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Speaker 7: paid to come into different cities and states to do

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Speaker 7: the protests. They weren't just organic protests.

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Speaker 8: So yeah, I'd love to know what's going on.

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Speaker 7: I'd love to know who's behind these what I would

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Speaker 1: Speaking to Attorney General Ken Paxton of State of Texas

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Speaker 1: AG of the State of Texas, do you think that

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Speaker 1: that they seem to have, at least so far, had

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Speaker 1: especially in places like New York and DC, these people

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Speaker 1: have no incentive other than to continue on what they're

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Speaker 1: doing right. They seem to love the attention. Maybe they

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Speaker 1: don't love the pepper spray, but they love the attention.

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Speaker 7: Well, look, I think it depends on how we treat

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Speaker 7: it in individual locations. I think if you watched what

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Speaker 7: happened with BLM and Antifa, eventually you know it went away,

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Speaker 7: but it had a dramatic impact on some of our cities.

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Speaker 7: I've seen, you know, it's all of businesses shut down.

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Speaker 8: I've seen, you.

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Speaker 7: Know, hotels shut down. So I don't in the long run,

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Speaker 7: if we don't address it, the places that don't address it,

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Speaker 7: they end up suffering the greatest consequences of negative consequences

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Speaker 7: for not dealing with real issues that affect business and

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Speaker 2: Attorney General of Texas Ken Paxton with us, he's with Trump.

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Speaker 2: Tell me I am President Trump, that Buck and Clay

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Speaker 2: say hi, and that we need to get him on

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Speaker 2: the show again soon.

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Speaker 1: By the way, when you go back in Oh And

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Speaker 1: I'm going to go say that to him.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that, all right. So you also are filing

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Speaker 2: a lawsuit regarding Title nine. I know you're a big

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Speaker 2: sports fan. Buck and I watched the Texas Alabama game

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Speaker 2: a couple of years with you down in Austin the idea,

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Speaker 2: and I'm sure you're like me, you can't believe that

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Speaker 2: this is the world we're in where I'm sure you

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Speaker 2: saw OutKick asked Don Staley, Hey, should men be able

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Speaker 2: to identify as women and play women's sports? And she

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Speaker 2: Don Staley's perspective with their new Title nine law application.

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Speaker 2: What are you trying to do to ensure that men

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Speaker 2: and also frankly use women's locker rooms and take over

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Speaker 2: places that otherwise would belong to women.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's pretty clear what Congress intended here. They they

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Speaker 7: designed Title nine to protect women's sports, to give women

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Speaker 8: As as the father of.

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Speaker 7: Three daughters and now women, you know, I thought it

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Speaker 7: was it ended up being a great deal for my daughters.

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Speaker 7: Here we have a choice, and that's just the opposite.

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Speaker 7: They're rewriting law without going through Congress and changing the

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Speaker 7: allocation to men to compete against women, which is one

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Speaker 7: unfair and two is a violation of federal law and.

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Speaker 8: The violation of his ability.

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Speaker 7: He's not allowed in the constitution, I'd say him, Joe Biden.

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Speaker 7: He's not allowed to just change the law. These are

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Speaker 7: laws put in place by elected representatives. So we're assuming

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Speaker 7: him because we don't think he has the authority to

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Speaker 7: do this. If Congress did it, it'd be a different story.

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Speaker 1: Turning, General Paxton, appreciate you being with us. Thanks so much, sir.

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Speaker 8: Have a great day, all right.

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Speaker 1: right here, Mark Rights. On top of all the factors

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Speaker 1: you've mentioned with Biden inflation, most small businesses now tack

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Speaker 1: on a three percent fee for using a credit card.

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Speaker 1: I've seen this too, Clay, where places are are charging

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Speaker 1: an additional fee for use of a credit card. Isn't

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Speaker 1: that against the credit card agreement though? But they're just

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Speaker 1: doing it anyway or am missing something?

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Speaker 2: I think they're just passing what they have to pay

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Speaker 1: But have you heard no? I know, but have you

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Speaker 1: heard that? I think the credit cards companies as part

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Speaker 1: of the agreement with the you know.

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Speaker 2: The vendor retailer.

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Speaker 1: The vendor retailer says you're not supposed to do that

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Speaker 1: because they don't want people to stop using credit cards. Obviously.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what you used to see was occasionally. I don't

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Speaker 2: think it's people don't carry as much cash, but you

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Speaker 2: used to get a discount if you paid with cash.

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Speaker 2: You probably heard and seen that over the years, but

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen that many places. I know one place

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Speaker 2: where it definitely happens is whenever I have to pay

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Speaker 2: for my law license, I pay online and they say, hey,

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Speaker 2: you have to pay the credit card fee as well.

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Speaker 2: So I have seen that online a couple of times.

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Speaker 2: I saw one of our writers at OutKick had a

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Speaker 2: good argument up and I hadn't seen him before. You know,

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Speaker 2: the thing that I've noticed is you have to tip

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Speaker 2: for everything now, every single thing you do, even if

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Speaker 2: you are just going in and picking up food for instance,

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Speaker 2: They're like, hey, do you need there's a tip calculator.

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Speaker 2: How do we feel about this? I well, so have

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Speaker 2: an argument. I've got a good one here. He said,

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Speaker 2: if you order while standing up, you should never tip.

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Speaker 2: And I've been thinking about it since I saw that argument,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, you know what, if you're ordering standing

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Speaker 2: up or picking up, I would say standing up, I

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Speaker 2: think it's an interesting argument that there should be no

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Speaker 2: tip allowed. Now. I also tend to tip just because

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Speaker 2: they stand and look at you, and it feels awkward

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Speaker 2: to hit the zero percent. And there are some exceptions.

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Speaker 2: For instance, I would say, you know, if there's teenagers

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Speaker 2: at an ice cream shop, I take my kids into

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Speaker 2: the ice cream shop. They stand up in scoop, so

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Speaker 2: I can see an argument there. Someone who makes your coffee,

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Speaker 2: you're standing up and ordering, I can see a tip there.

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Speaker 1: I tip, I tip for coffee and all those things,

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Speaker 1: and I you know, I can understand these days. Look,

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Speaker 1: I think if you can, you should tip, and you

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Speaker 1: should tip as big as you're comfortable tipping all the time.

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Speaker 1: It's a really good way to spread it around, and

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Speaker 1: you can really make someone's day with a with a

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Speaker 1: big tip. Works in the service industry, so I think

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Speaker 1: that's an excellent thing to do when you can. I

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Speaker 1: do feel, oh we got her, Oh we got her

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Speaker 1: all right. Amber Smith with US now former senior defense

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Speaker 1: official at DoD and she's a combat veteran a rock

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Speaker 1: and Afghanistan tours. She was a Kiowa pilot and she's

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Speaker 1: got a book, a new book out, Unfit to Fight.

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Speaker 1: How woke policies are destroying our military? Amber, great to have.

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Speaker 9: You great to be honest, you bock appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: All right. So we talk about wokeness a lot here

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Speaker 1: on the show. Clearly it affects sports, which gets Clay

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Speaker 1: very upset. It affects everything else which also gets to

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Speaker 1: be very upset, and that includes our military. In what

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Speaker 1: ways is the woke stuff actually manifesting in what is

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Speaker 1: still the most fearsome and awesome armed forces in the world.

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Speaker 1: But how is wokeness infiltrating significantly?

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Speaker 9: It is now systemic throughout the Department OF's Defense and

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Speaker 9: the military, and it did catch a lot of people

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Speaker 9: by surprise, because if you think about wokeness, you think,

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Speaker 9: you know, for a while now, people have seen it

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Speaker 9: in the public school system, in the medical system, in

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Speaker 9: different industries throughout America, but most people weren't paying attention

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Speaker 9: to what was going on inside the military. You think

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Speaker 9: most recruitment, you know, happens from Red States, patriotic Americans

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Speaker 9: who want to serve their country. A lot of people

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Speaker 9: view them as conservative and they would never allow you know,

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Speaker 9: wokeness to infiltrate the US military. But sadly, that is

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Speaker 9: exactly what has happened, and it's led to an extreme

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Speaker 9: culture shift inside the Department of Defense from the top

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Speaker 9: all the way down to the bottom, from you know,

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Speaker 9: the ear ring of the Pentagon to the service the

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Speaker 9: military service academies and have really shifted from being a

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Speaker 9: mission driven, mission purpose oriented organization to one that has

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Speaker 9: shifted their focus to identity politics, to diversity inclusion, you know,

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Speaker 9: climate change extremism, gender ideology.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 9: And it's really taken a toll, as we have seen

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Speaker 9: in the recruitment numbers, the retention crisis, and morale throughout

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Speaker 9: the service members.

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Speaker 2: Amber when you see, and I'm with Buck here, sometimes

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Speaker 2: I see things associated with the military and I feel

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Speaker 2: like I'm being pranked. When I see, for instance, that

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Speaker 2: we have a trans admiral that we're supposed to pretend

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Speaker 2: is actually a woman when it's clearly just a dude

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Speaker 2: dressed up.

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Speaker 1: Like a woman.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't that have a major impact in terms of I

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Speaker 2: want badasses who want to serve in the military, people

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Speaker 2: who want to kick ass. When I see a dude

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Speaker 2: pretending to be a woman, it doesn't make me think,

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Speaker 2: oh my goodness, I feel so much safer.

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Speaker 1: I want to go sign up with these people.

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Speaker 9: Exactly. It has very serious consequences. You know, China's watching Russia, Iran,

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Speaker 9: North Korea. They are all paying attention to what is

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Speaker 9: going on inside our military, and it just projects some

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Speaker 9: serious weakness. All of our adversaries are not focused on

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Speaker 9: ensuring that they're troops, are focused on proper pronouns and

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Speaker 9: men being allowed to wear finger polish or if the

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Speaker 9: word mohawk is offensive. They are focused on which our military,

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Speaker 9: by the way, is focused on.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 9: Our adversaries are focused on how they can fight and

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Speaker 9: destroy their enemy, which happens to be us. So every

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Speaker 9: single day they are training and getting stronger in order

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Speaker 9: to defeat their enemy. And that's what our military used

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Speaker 9: to be about. Sadly, because of woke leaderships both in

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Speaker 9: the Biden administration and inside the Department of Defense, they

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Speaker 9: have shifted that priority, the one that I served in

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Speaker 9: that I loved, where we trained every day to ensure

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Speaker 9: that we have the skills, equipment, training necessary to accomplish

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Speaker 9: the mission. We're not seeing that in today's military, and

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Speaker 9: it has some very serious and dangerous consequences when it

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Speaker 9: comes to our national security and the threat speed, faith,

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Speaker 9: and the viability and sustainability of the all volunteer force

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Speaker 9: that we have had since the end of the Vietnam

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Speaker 9: War Hamber.

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Speaker 1: First off, everyone can check out the book Unfit to Fight.

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Speaker 1: How woke policies are destroying our military. Amber Smith is

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Speaker 1: the author. For everyone out there. We got a lot

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Speaker 1: of military current and former, so we have a lot

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Speaker 1: of veterans, a lot of active duty military to listen

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Speaker 1: to the show. But you know that's a portion of

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Speaker 1: the audience, a lot of other people they are not

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Speaker 1: specifically personally familiar with military operations. What was it like

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Speaker 1: being a Kiwa pilot?

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Speaker 9: It was awesome. It was the coolest job I've ever

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Speaker 9: had and probably ever will have. It was like driving

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Speaker 9: a race car in the sky and that was just

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Speaker 9: you know, wiggling the stix. Flying the helicopter portion of it.

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Speaker 9: It's our mission that made it absolutely incredible. Purpose driven

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Speaker 9: we Kia was a light attack reconnaissance helicopter. It has

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Speaker 9: a fifty cal machine gun, seven high explosive rockets. We

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Speaker 9: can be configured to carry four health fire missiles. But

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Speaker 9: we fly extremely low level, so sometimes you know, fifty

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Speaker 9: hundred feet off the ground, and we work very closely

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Speaker 9: with any friendly ground force, so the infantry, Special operations,

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Speaker 9: NATO forces, in country forces like Afghan military, Iraq military,

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Speaker 9: stuff like that, and we hunt for ibs, We do

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Speaker 9: convoy securities, but one of our biggest missions is to

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Speaker 9: say the ground force isn't a firefight. They call in

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Speaker 9: us our helicopters and we come in and take out

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Speaker 9: enemy targets. So it was an incredible experience. I absolutely

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Speaker 9: loved flying that aircraft. It was sort of the aircraft

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Speaker 9: that was extremely effective on the battlefield that many people

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Speaker 9: didn't know about until these two wars kicked off. The

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Speaker 9: post Lanine eleven wars.

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Speaker 2: Amber you talked about it being like flying a race

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Speaker 2: car in the sky. That makes me think that you

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Speaker 2: probably like to drive fast. How difficult is it to

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Speaker 2: go like forty miles an hour when you've been flying

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Speaker 2: a helicopter at at insane rates of speech speed closely

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Speaker 2: above the ground.

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Speaker 9: It's not driving is not as fun as when you

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Speaker 9: get to do it, you know, just a little bit

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Speaker 9: off the ground. We had so much fun. It was it.

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Speaker 9: But flying a helicopter is like just it kind of

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Speaker 9: is exhausting because you are doing so much, like with like,

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Speaker 9: so much coordination goes into it. You're listening to five

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Speaker 9: radios at the exact same time. You have the navigation systems,

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Speaker 9: the weapon systems, the helicopter flight control systems, and you

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Speaker 9: have to worry about whether hazards. We fly low enough

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Speaker 9: that you need to watch out for, like telephone poles

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Speaker 9: or you know, like power lines, cell phone towers, that

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Speaker 9: type of stuff. So there's a lot going to it.

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Speaker 9: So comparing that to a car, like a car is

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Speaker 9: just it's just easy.

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Speaker 2: I'm just sinking it hit you regularly, speed all over

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Speaker 2: the place, is what I was getting at. I can't

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Speaker 2: imagine that. You're like, oh, I'm going to go thirty

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Speaker 2: five of officials. She's very, very low, by very law.

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Speaker 2: By your your husband. Your husband, isn't he a fixed

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Speaker 2: wing fighter pilot?

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Speaker 9: He is a helicopter pilot.

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Speaker 1: Oh he's also rotary. Oh we got I was gonna say,

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Speaker 1: what's it? Sorry? I thought he was a fixed wing guy.

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Speaker 1: What is the difference? So you guys kept it all

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Speaker 1: in the family. There the difference in personality, and you

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Speaker 1: might start a little fight among the service here. So

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to stir the pot difference in personality between

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Speaker 1: a rotary wing fighter and a and a fixed wing

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Speaker 1: fighter pilot.

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Speaker 9: Oh you know, how do you know when a fire

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Speaker 9: fighter walks into a bars? I'll tell you I think

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Speaker 9: that's I think that's probably the difference.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell I'm gonna tell my father in law

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Speaker 1: that the F eighteen pilot. This is gonna be fun.

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Speaker 1: Start some stuff. Everybody go, it's an it's an important

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Speaker 1: We're having some fun with you, but it's it's an

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Speaker 1: important book here. I want people to go check it out. Please,

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Speaker 1: so unfit to fight? How woke policies are destoring our military?

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Speaker 1: Our friend veteran Amber Smith, Amber, thank you so much,

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Speaker 1: good luck with the book, and we'll talk to you

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Speaker 1: again soon.

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Speaker 9: Appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Buck absolutely.

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