WEBVTT - Patriots Catch-22 8/3: Training Camp Week 2 Recap, Players that "Popped" 0:00:03.720 --> 0:00:07.080 This is the Patriots Catch twenty two podcasts with Evan 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:08.840 Lazar and Alex Bars. 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:10.920 And Lazarre. 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:17.320 Hello, everybody nailed it. Joined us always by our bar. 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:21.880 Here is Evan Lazar and Alex Bars. Back from vacation 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:24.480 and back to Patriots training camp. 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:28.000 And this is back from vacation. First off of congratulations 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:31.320 you and Jesson as all the pleasantes. Meanwhile, I am 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:34.920 over here. I remain married to the game another word 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:39.280 for single, I'm to the game. I somehow missed that 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:40.879 little quick from you last week. 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:46.319 Ow mean, I cracked myself up. Sometimes I gotta give 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:48.160 myself credit for that one. That was at least making 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:52.760 somebody laugh. Okay, fair enough, you know listen, I like 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:54.680 I always say, you missed one hundred percent of the 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:56.800 shots you don't take. So some of my jokes don't land, 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:58.680 some of them do. That one was kind of funny. 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:01.600 I'll give myself credit for that one. So Evin Lazard 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:04.320 is Alex Bars Patriots Cash twenty two with you for 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:07.160 the next hour or so. You know, we tend to ramble, 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:08.759 so it might be a little bit over the hour, 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:10.600 but we'll see how long we go here today. But 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:13.280 a lot to talk about a lot of positives to 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:15.440 talk about it, like, we're not just this is look 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:19.160 on Tuesday, Alex, you know I was texting you about 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:20.760 it during practice. 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:22.760 So it's not like you were texting about it during practice. 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:24.760 You can just doubt me about this. I'm going to 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:25.800 own this. I'm soar. 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:28.600 We were getting to a point on Tuesday where, yeah, 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:32.360 the offense was a little stagnant and you know, they 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:36.200 were still working through some things. Evan texts me and 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:38.440 goes in so many words, he's worried. He is worried 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:43.240 about the offense. Worried literally since the snap after that text, Yep, 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:46.000 it's all because of me. They have been locked it. 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:48.440 Like I think I literally sent you a text back 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:50.400 after that. Well that was a good throw and it 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:52.880 was I think the mac Jones touchdown, the Jujus and 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:54.880 the Schuster in the back of the end zone. Yeah, 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:57.680 ever since you sent that text, you fixed the offense 0:01:58.240 --> 0:01:58.760 With that text. 0:01:58.800 --> 0:01:59.560 You're giving me credit. 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:01.400 We might have to get well, just he did it, 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:03.760 you guys. Well, but then Bill O'Brien it was me. 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:05.000 But then the next day they got off to a 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:06.680 little bit of a slow start. You texted me again 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:09.640 and then mac Jones said his best practice he's had 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:11.400 since the Giants practice is rookie year. 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:11.600 Yea. 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:13.720 So just keep sending the texts. Okay, that's what it 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:15.840 comes down to. This whole season comes down to, Well, 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:17.120 Evan keeps sending those texts. 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:19.320 There we go. So we'll lay this out and exactly 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:22.239 go into a little bit more detail here, but I'd 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:25.200 also just want to do some housekeeping. Shout out Marine 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:27.880 behind the glass with us as always, and Zach is 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:32.120 with us here today with Alex that he's shadowing our Alex, 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:36.240 not this Alex today for the day. And Zach, you 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:38.480 have one of the coolest stories I think anybody can 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:40.519 tell other than you go into training camp every day 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:42.480 like a psycho since you were like two years old 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:45.720 or something like that. But we came back last year 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:49.040 from the Buffalo road game and the Patriots did not 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:51.000 have such a good day that day, and we're all 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:54.120 coming back on the team buses and we see a 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:59.120 son and a father holding a sign that says thank 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:03.880 yous as we're pulling into Gillette and all of us 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:05.880 on the content bus. We don't mingle. We don't get 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:07.440 to mingle with the coaches and players. We have our 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:09.519 own separate bus, and all of us in the content 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:12.000 bus were like, wow, that's that's so cool, Like to 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:14.919 who is that? We tried, you know, we obviously dug 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:17.560 up who it was. Alex wrote a story about it, 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:20.600 and it was Zach and his father that came out 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:23.280 even it was what like twenty degrees, it was late 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:25.440 at night. They did not win the game. They did 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:28.079 not make the playoffs, as we all know, and he's 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:31.160 been doing that though, are Alex talking to you now? 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:36.960 Since for years super Bowl champs or not even making 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:39.280 the playoffs at eight and nine, him and his dad 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:41.680 come out every year and hold up the signs and 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:45.040 welcome the team back from whatever their final game of 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:47.240 the year is. So that's really really cool. I think 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:52.360 it's awesome just to see somebody that fair Weather not 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:55.720 here right Like, it doesn't matter if they're winning the 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:58.920 super Bowl or they're coming in what third place in 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:01.280 the division and I'm making the playoffs. We don't need 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:03.600 to talk about too much about that. But let's get 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:06.240 back to training camp. Shout out Zach, and thanks for 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:08.840 hanging with us today. But I want to get into 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:11.680 camp a little bit. And you mentioned my texts and 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:15.080 my negativity about the offense on Tuesday and the place 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:17.720 that I was coming from with the offense. And I 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:21.520 understand where I went wrong, right, I understand where what 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:22.640 I missed, But. 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:24.719 Sure, I'm not going to ride the roller coaster of 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:25.200 training camp. 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:28.520 Here we are, We're on, We're on Superman at six 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:32.600 Flags right now. The main thing that I was frustrated 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:36.520 with was the missed opportunities or the meat left on 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:39.480 the bone I thought from that practice and as. 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:42.880 Good as in terms of like taking completions but not 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:47.160 pushing the ball right and so I can name specific places, 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:48.799 which you know at the time was a fair assessment. 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:51.039 The main thing was is that I felt like a 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:53.440 lot of people and I'm not calling anybody out, I 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:56.400 just want to be honest. I felt like a lot 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:59.440 of people were gassing up a lot of short completions 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:01.880 and checked down by Mac Jones and we tear about 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:05.560 these training camp stats and we here after practice Mac 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:09.400 Jones finished the day eight for ten and team drills 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:12.839 and that eighty percent completion rate. That sounds incredible. But 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:16.839 what I'm more concerned about is one, is he running 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:18.960 into play properly? Of course, is the biggest thing, at 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:22.880 least as far as I can tell. And two, how 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:26.440 difficult are the throws? How much is he pushing himself 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:29.760 and pushing the team, Because the main thing is is 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:33.560 that does call spade to spade. They don't have a 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:36.000 great offensive line right now, and they might not have 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:38.080 a great offensive I think it's going to be better 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:40.960 than what we've seen at practice when Mike on Winne, 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:42.360 you and Cole Strange come back. 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:44.839 They only have two projected starters right now. 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:48.960 And I don't really know how good this group is 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:51.920 going to be in general, even on paper if everybody's healthy. 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:56.880 We've had concerns about the line all off season, mainly 0:05:56.920 --> 0:05:59.440 at tackle, which right now and we'll get to in 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:02.680 a little bit more detail, Connor McDermott. It looks like 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:05.400 he's kind of locked up the right tackle job eight 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:08.040 practices into camp, and as much as I have been 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:10.760 impressed by what I've seen out of Connor McDermott, I'm 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:13.320 not so sure that's a great thing that Connor McDermott 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:16.920 is the best tackle that you have to start on 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:20.719 the right side opposite Trent Brown. So I think the 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:24.800 main thing was is that you have an so so 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:28.680 offensive line. I think you have average skill players. I 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:31.160 think the skill players are okay. I don't think they're great. 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:33.400 I don't think they're an elite, but I think they're okay. 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:37.640 And I think I'm good. And guys, all the skill 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:39.560 players are gonna factor in Hunter Henry, We're gonna factor 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:41.839 understy Good. I don' know, they're great, They're good, They're good, 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:42.600 They're fine, They're good. 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:46.480 Yeah, And we looked at that practice on Tuesday, and 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:48.720 that was the first time where things started to kind 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:51.400 of show signs that things were clicking and guys were 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:53.599 starting to get open a little bit more and more 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:55.520 down the field, which is something that has been a 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:59.679 problem through five camp practices. And all of the sudden, 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:04.480 Mac Jones is kind of missing some throws and everybody's 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:08.000 writing about, Oh, it was this great practice, and I'm 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:12.040 thinking to myself, like he threw in seven on seven, 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:16.320 Juju Smith Schuster was open on a corner route and 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:18.640 the ball hung up in the air and Marcus Jones 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:20.520 nearly picked it off. Juju had to play defense, right, 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:23.480 Juju became the defensive back, knock it out to knock 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:26.720 it out of out of Marcus Jones' hands. Later on, 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:29.480 when they got into eleven on eleven's he had Gasiki 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:31.640 open on a crosser and he short armed it and 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:36.240 Mac Wilson broke up the pass, and these types of 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:39.880 things were happening throughout the practice. I have a high 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:43.080 standard for the quarterback. If there are open receivers down 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:45.280 the field, I expect Mac Jones to make the throws. 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:46.720 And that's that's a fair expectation. 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:49.000 And I didn't feel like he did that on Tuesday. Now, 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:52.240 what I missed, and this is maya kolpa here, what 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:56.680 I missed is that I should have recognized that the 0:07:56.800 --> 0:08:00.000 receivers were actually getting open, right right, like the offense 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:03.360 was actually starting to find a rhythm and starting to click. 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:05.480 And then the last thing that sort of needed to 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:08.480 come along was the timing and the ball placement and 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:13.600 working out really the finer details of these sort of things. 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:16.680 And just as an example on that Kasiki play, I 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:20.320 saw Mac kind of signal with his hand afterwards about 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:24.480 potentially Gisicki drifting a little bit upfield, a further upfield 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:28.600 than he thought. So what I missed on Tuesday was 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:34.200 that that was a stepping stone to what we saw 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:35.000 the last two. 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:36.360 Days and can I tell you what I think may 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:38.200 have helped with that. As crazy as this sounds, and 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:40.360 this is classic training camp, We're going to take one 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:42.800 play and blow it up into something bigger. But so 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:44.640 this was again kind of right after you sent me 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:47.000 that text about you know, Max maybe missing some of 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:50.000 these guys further down the field, he threw that deep 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:51.720 ball to Kendrick porn. It was I mean, it was 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:54.079 not complex. It was Kendrick Porne ran a straight line, 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:56.160 ran by the corner. I want to say it was 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:57.600 Jalen Mills. I don't remember who it was. 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:01.400 No, it was wait wait just what play was it? 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:04.679 Discontinue over the go ball to to Kendrick Bourne that 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:08.080 Mac like launched out oh yeaheah. And I mean again, no, 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:10.720 nothing sexy, no intense concept. It was go run. He 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:12.800 ran by the corner and Mac threw a deep to 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:14.679 him and he missed him by about like a step, 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:17.439 like overthrew him by about the steps. Talk about that 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:20.560 in a second, but yeah, on it so that after 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:22.839 so you're texting, it's all checkdowns and you were right, 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:25.400 and then that happened, and then all of a sudden 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:27.800 he starts mixing in a lot more of this intermediate stuff. 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:30.200 I almost feel like that was a moment where maybe 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:32.320 he took the deep shot and it was incomplete, but 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:35.679 he was like he was open, like this is gonna work. 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:38.160 I have a chance to make these plays. Let's try 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:40.800 that again, because that seemed to kind of even though 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:43.600 it was incomplete, it seemed to unlock something. Yeah, I total, 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:47.280 although you sound less thrilled with that play, I am less. 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:49.960 Thrilled of it with that play, but not because I 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:53.839 disagree with your point. The main point that I when 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:55.719 I looked at that throw to Kendrick Bourne and then 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:59.520 the next day he had a similar overthrow to Devonte Parker. Yeah, 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:01.640 he he's got to recognize that he ain't thrown a 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:04.800 Jalen Wattle and Devonte Smith right like he those guys 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:08.680 are slower receivers. But with that being said, they're really 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:10.920 good at the catch point. So if he puts it 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:13.640 on them instead of leading them into the end zone, 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:16.760 if he just allows Devonte Parker to just go up 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:20.000 to the tenth floor and pick it up and grab it, 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:23.480 you know, over the defensive backs, That's how DeVante Parker 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:24.720 is gonna win on a deep bat. 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:26.640 Which we've seen, which we've seen now Max start to 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.520 do right and it's I think we talked about this 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:30.840 a little bit on the last show, but it's really 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:32.360 started to click the last couple of days. And they 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:34.439 tweeted this and people were kind of confused. That's why 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:35.240 I tweet it because it. 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:37.120 Sounds it sounds stupid. 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:40.760 But the Patriots, the Patriots and Mac Jones and these receivers, 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:44.000 they figured out this concept that if you throw the 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:47.000 ball high to the tall, wide receivers and let them 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:49.320 jump and get it like, they're gonna be able to 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:51.120 make plays. They're gonna be able to get to the ball. 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:53.240 He needs to know the strengths of the play, right. 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:56.080 I know that you don't love the idea of being 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:58.520 like a purely contested catch offense, and I don't think 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:01.640 and I don't think that's sustained to be purely contested catch. 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:04.320 But for them to hit their ceiling this year, it's 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:05.880 gonna have to be a decent part of what they do. 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:08.160 That's just the roster they've built. And you can argue 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.600 the roster should be built differently, but we're past that 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:13.240 at this point. Yeah, there's gonna have to be an 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:15.320 element of fifty to fifty balls in this offense. And 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:17.280 they and that's timing, that's chemistry. 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:18.960 You can tell by my face how much I hate that. 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:21.120 But they okay, but it's too late. It's too late. 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:24.160 The team they have, Yeah, they are starting to really 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:26.880 maximize some of those concepts here the last couple of days. 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:31.080 Yeah. So I think the coolest thing about yesterday's practice 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:34.720 from max perspective and just from the offens's perspective in general. 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:36.800 You know, Alex that I spent a lot of time 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:39.600 this offseason trying to learn the Bill O'Brien offense as 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:42.760 best as I could, maybe a little too well. Yeah, 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:46.600 And there were instances during that practice where I could 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:49.760 have told you the play. And that's cool because that 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:53.319 means that it's hitting exactly how it shook. Because I'm 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:56.320 I'm no savants, So like, if I can tell just 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:57.960 because of the way that they're running the routes and 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:00.640 stuff like that, I could name the play, all that 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:03.600 means that they're executing it exactly how it's drawn up 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:05.400 on the whiteboard. Right, And there were a couple of 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:07.880 different plays that hit like that that I was like, 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:10.760 Oh wow, Like that's it's starting to come together. I 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:11.040 think that. 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:15.520 Play, the Gaki throw or in the Smith Schuster touchdown, 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:17.840 that was the big play I think on Wednesday, right. 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:20.800 So the Gaziki throw first was the first one where 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:22.880 it clicked on and I was like, oh wow, like, 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:26.360 that's that's teach tape of this concept. I don't want 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:29.440 to name the concept again myself in trouble, uh, that's 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:32.800 teach tape of this concept. And what it was was 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:36.679 Kendrick Bourne was in a a split or stack i 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:39.920 should say, with Kasiki, where Kendrick Bourne's on the line 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:42.400 of scrimmage and Kasiki's a little bit off the line 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:44.760 of scrimmage, and Kendrick Bourne is just going to release 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:46.920 vertical and that's going to create like a little pocket 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:50.240 of space. And then Kasiki has an option route. If 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:52.640 it's zone, he can sit in between the zones. If 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:55.120 it's man, he reads the leverage of the defender and 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:57.760 just breaks opposite of the leverage of the defender. So 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:01.720 all that's made possible by ken Boorn's release because it 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:05.160 gives him that space to kind of make that operate, 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:07.840 you know, to operate. It gives him that space to operate, 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:11.440 and Kasiki recognized that the defender was outside of him, 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:14.400 broke inside on a little angle route and Mac hit 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:16.640 him in stride. And if it was a game, that 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:19.000 would have been like a catch and run, yeah play. 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:20.960 And that was the first one where I was like, 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:24.000 that was on time, That's exactly how it's drawn up 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:27.840 the receiver, both receivers ran their routes perfectly, and they 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:30.400 hit it, and that's that's a really good thing. The 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:32.880 next one was the Juju play where they had the 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:36.240 double dig concept. That's a pretty simple one. Those types 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:41.080 of plays that continued to happen in that practice. I was, Okay, 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:45.560 now we're starting to not only can you see conceptually 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:48.160 what they're trying to get done, but now they're executing it. 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:50.920 And I think it goes back to something that Juju 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:53.840 said yesterday actually, which was that they're at the point 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:57.560 of training camp now where they're repeating plays, they're they're 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:00.520 no longer installing, and I think that's where where the 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:04.040 lights switched on for the offense was when they stopped 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:07.959 getting bogged down by installing new plays and started trying 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:10.280 to master the ones that they already know. And now 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:11.160 we see what we see. 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:13.880 Did they get to that point last year? I don't 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:14.520 know that they did. 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:16.599 I don't know, And but it makes me want to 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:20.440 give Bill O'Brien a hug because he said he literally 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:24.080 just he saved it. Like he we're on that step. 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:25.960 I don't want to get too ahead of myself, but 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:27.880 I think the biggest thing with with what you see 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:32.240 from Bill O'Brien is he makes it so easy on everybody. Yeah, 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:36.000 and for guys, they're in positions where they can win 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:41.000 on their routes. And for the quarterback, you see the leverage, 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:45.280 like you see the passing lane start to get created 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:48.280 early in the route and that's like so beneficial to 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:49.880 the quarterback because now you're not holding the. 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:52.720 Ball right, especially with this offensive line right. And that's 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:55.080 you said. He makes it easy for everybody. And the 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:57.480 guy that really takes the brunt of it is Mac 0:14:57.600 --> 0:14:59.560 Jones because like you said, there's a lot of reads 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:04.840 of levere and coverages and but that's why you invest 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:06.800 the first round pick and a guy like Mac Jones 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:09.960 because yeah, he has some deficiencies he talked about the 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:13.480 arm strength, but he's going to be able to get 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:17.240 to the line, recognize the defense's call and then adjust 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:20.520 the offense accordingly to take it. There's no defense that 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:23.440 can cover everything. It just doesn't exist. This is at 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:26.160 its base what football comes down to. The defense is 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:27.640 going to try to the offense is going to try 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:29.680 to do something. The defense is going to try to 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:33.080 take away something. If the defense guesses right and takes 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:34.800 away with the offense is trying to do, the defense 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:37.160 wins if the offense catches the defense off guard. So 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:40.640 when you can essentially go into a play with multiple 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:43.880 playans on offense, it makes it that much easier to 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:45.960 counter whatever the defense is doing. And people are probably 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:48.280 sitting at home and saying, why doesn't every team do that? 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:51.400 You need really smart players to be able to do that, 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:52.680 because there's players that. 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:54.800 You needed coaches that can teach it, and I think 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:57.760 and that's part of it. I think that's where it 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:01.800 got caught up last year was that the coaches were 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:05.080 trying to teach themselves what they were installing, and they 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:07.240 were trying to figure it out on the fly. So 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:10.840 when the players had questions and the players had things 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:14.080 to work out and things bad habits that were starting 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:19.120 to form and things of that nature, it was too late, right, 0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:21.640 Like they were too far gone at that point, the 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:24.400 spacing and the timing of these routes. And we talked 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:27.160 how much did we talk about spacing issues last year? 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:30.160 You know, guys being crowded, guys running into each other 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:33.120 at times. You don't see any of that in these 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:36.560 practices now. And we're not even getting into and we 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:39.160 can a little bit. We aren't even getting into like 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:42.760 the schematic bells and whistles that O'Brien is putting on 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:45.160 the offense. We're just talking about like simple football right 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:48.760 at this point in time. And the other play that 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:52.120 really got me excited was the touchdown that Mac threw 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:56.400 to Juju yesterday down inside the red zone because we 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:57.680 got a question about this from. 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:00.200 Just the one where he was running the inline went 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:02.160 up and got it. No, this is the one, yeah, 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:03.680 the back of the end zone. 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:06.920 It's ever so I think it's actually Patty and Aguam 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:11.439 actually emailed us about the the little side sessions that 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:14.359 they've been doing with during special teams periods. Mac and 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:17.000 Bill O'Brien go over to the other field and bring 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:20.359 like Juju and Parker and Bourne and Henry and like 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:23.479 the big receivers with them. This is something that's been 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:25.639 going on in New England since Brady was here. Brady 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:27.560 would have like his little circle of trust. Yeah, the 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:30.280 side session. Yeah, so this isn't new. It's not like 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:31.679 a well, so it's. 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:34.240 Different because Zappi and McSorley will go over for those 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:36.240 as well. In the past it was just Brady, right, 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:38.439 So it's not But it's not a new phenomena to football. 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:41.000 It's my point. That was the question, that was Patty's question. 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:42.280 It's not a new phenomenon. 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:44.440 But the biggest thing was is that when they were 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:48.080 in that that was little side sessions, they were working 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:50.520 two and three man route combinations on the goal line, 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:54.440 and they were practicing against air. But they were practicing 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:57.280 those things and then they come yesterday at the end 0:17:57.320 --> 0:18:00.000 of practice and they bring it to eleven on elevee 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:04.760 and they've noticed that the two defenders were going to 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:07.399 banjo or switch basically like a pick and roll in 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:10.440 basketball where you switch it instead of staying with your guy. 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:13.840 And they recognized that pre snap. But that was the 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:16.240 call that the defense made. And this is part of 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:18.360 the part of training camp that I think is important 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:21.199 to mention as well as just it's eight practices in 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:24.400 the offense knows the defense, the defense knows the offense, 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:26.560 and this is why we need to wait until joint 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:31.320 practices happened to get really excited. But the MAC makes 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:34.160 a check at the line of scrimmage because he recognizes 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:37.280 that they're they're going to inside out the receivers and 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:40.360 they ended up flooding one of the defenders and the guy, 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:42.080 I think it was Jalen Mills is kind of just 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:45.120 lost in no man's land. And that was a play 0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:47.639 that they took from that side session that they've been 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:50.800 working on like all week long. They took it to 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:53.280