1 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: Hi everyone, I'm Rachel Zoe and you're listening to Climbing 2 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: in Heels for your weekly dose of glamour, inspiration and 3 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: of course fun. My guest today is honestly a trailblazer 4 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: in her field. Doctor Andy Jean Moreau is award winning 5 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: and highly sought after female cosmetic dentists, and I know 6 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: from personal experience just how amazing and talented she is. 7 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: Her journey from working alongside her mentors in New York 8 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: City to moving to Beverly Hills and working on some 9 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: of Hollywood's best and brightest smiles is truly inspiring. Doctor 10 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: Andy is truly changing lives by transforming smiles and giving 11 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: people the self confidence they need and deserve. 12 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: So let's jump right in. 13 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: I'm very excited to have you on, and I wanted 14 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: to have you on because not only do I have 15 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: firsthand experience with you, but you run in a world 16 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: that I completely. 17 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 2: Knew nothing about. 18 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: And it's funny because I think that people would always think, oh, 19 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,199 Speaker 1: you know, Rachel's so vain, she's so like of course, 20 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: she knows about every single thing when it comes to 21 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: cosmetic anything or anything. 22 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 2: That it's visual or whatever. 23 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: And ironically, my teeth was not something that I really 24 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: knew anything about the world beyond teeth, Like beyond the 25 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: teeth I had that I knew you could get them whitened, 26 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: or I knew you could do this or whatever. 27 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: And when I learned about you, I was like, Okay, 28 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: I was skeptical. It was like, well, let's let's just 29 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 2: let's just meet. 30 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: Let's just meet, right, Let's just let's just meet, and 31 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: let's just say. The rest is history, and here you are, 32 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: and I'm excited to have you on. So I want 33 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: to talk about, first and foremost, how in what world 34 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: did you like come up that you were like, hey, 35 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: this is who I want of you when I grow up? 36 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: Or was there no world and then you just decided 37 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: that like late in life, right, No. 38 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 3: I am to tell you a lot about my personality. 39 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 4: My name is obviously Andy. 40 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 3: I'm a girl that grew up in Brooklyn and has 41 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 3: a boy's name, right, And my mom always joked that, like, 42 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 3: I know, you can hang out with the boys. 43 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 4: That's why I named you a boy's name. 44 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 3: And so growing up I had mostly male friends. Like 45 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 3: I never was a girls girl growing up, but I 46 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 3: definitely have become one and you know, growing up in Brooklyn, 47 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 3: I don't think that it necessarily means you're gonna end 48 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 3: up in Beverly Hills, California. Training people like yourself definitely 49 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 3: has been quite an interesting journey. But I think, you know, 50 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 3: along the way, I've come across so many people in 51 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 3: my life that have influenced me, both positive and negative, 52 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 3: to be who I am today. And it's been quite 53 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 3: a crazy journey just being a woman in this industry, 54 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 3: you know that is. 55 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 4: Completely male dominated. You know, I travel the world, I 56 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 4: teach cosmetic. 57 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 3: Dentistry all over the world, and when I go on 58 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 3: these big stages, it's. 59 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 4: All men and then me. 60 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, I never thought of being a 61 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 3: woman as a limitation. I thought it that as my superpower. 62 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 3: I'm going to show them that I can do it 63 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 3: just as good, just as I can work just as hard, 64 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 3: and I can get to be just as successful as. 65 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 4: Any male in the world. 66 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: You know. 67 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 3: And when I was growing up, I knew that I 68 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 3: wanted to be something in the medical field. I knew 69 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 3: that that was something I wanted, but I didn't know 70 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 3: that I was going to be a dentist. My mother 71 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 3: was a nurse. I come from a family of nurses. 72 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 3: I'm the first doctor than my family. 73 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 4: Wow, And yeah. 74 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 2: That's all. That's crazy, that's mad, that's exciting. 75 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: It's also it's also interesting that that that was your 76 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: that coming up in Brooklyn and coming up in that 77 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: that that was. 78 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 2: Your thought process in it. 79 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 80 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 3: So you know, I I'm the person. I'm the kind 81 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,679 Speaker 3: of person And I know you know this already about 82 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 3: me because we've obviously worked together a little bit, Like 83 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 3: the more you tell me I can't do something, the 84 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 3: more I'm gonna work hard to really prove you wrong. 85 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 86 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 4: And so you know, growing up, I knew. 87 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 3: I wanted to be in the medical field. And I 88 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 3: was always really crafty, Like I was the person that 89 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 3: was putting together puzzles. I was the person that was 90 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 3: like carving soap or doing weird things to be creative. 91 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 4: You know. 92 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 3: And I think it was probably a little bit of 93 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 3: how I housed anxiety throughout growing and through the pressure. 94 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 3: And I remember one day somebody saying to me, oh, 95 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 3: well you should look at dentistry. 96 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 4: And it's actually a funny story. 97 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 3: My mother and father when they met their family dentist, 98 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 3: doctor Bill Bungjorno. You know, they would they would be 99 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 3: very friendly with him. And he had a front desk girl. 100 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 3: Her name was Laurie, and Laurie had just lost her 101 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 3: husband and her husband's name was Andrew. And I remember 102 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 3: my mom telling me the story that she came home 103 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 3: and they, you know, she was pregnant with me. And 104 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 3: my father had gone to dinner with doctor Bjorno and 105 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 3: they were talking. 106 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 4: About how if they would have known that he. 107 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 3: Was going to pass away, that they would have named 108 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 3: their daughter Andy. And my dad heard this, and that's 109 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 3: how I was named. Now, fast forward thirty years. I 110 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 3: go to doctor bon Jorno and I'm like, I think 111 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 3: I want to be a dentist. 112 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 4: And he's like, really, like, I've been in your life for. 113 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 3: This long, and you want to be like one of 114 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 3: his children coming out of the room, you know? 115 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 2: Sure? 116 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 3: And so I shadowed there for a few years when 117 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 3: I was in college. I was a Division one athlete 118 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 3: when I was in college, so I swam. 119 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 4: I'm pretty wonderful. 120 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 3: I was at Multitasker because I was trying to build 121 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 3: my resume to get into dental school. And I remember 122 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 3: applying to dental school and being so nervous. 123 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 4: I applied to sixteen schools. 124 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 3: I got wait listed at four and then I ended 125 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 3: up getting into three of the four. And it was 126 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 3: just pure persistence because I just don't accept the word no. 127 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 4: And I remember being on. 128 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 3: The wait list and it was almost August and dental 129 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 3: school starts mid August. And I remember then getting into 130 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 3: UPenn and it wasn't where I wanted to be. I 131 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 3: wanted to be at NYU. I'm a New Yorker through 132 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 3: and through. I wanted to stay home. 133 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: Sidebar Pen is like the sickest school, but okay, great. 134 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 4: And it's super it's super well known. Yeah. 135 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 2: Of course, that one. 136 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 4: Decision changed my entire life. You know, I was moving in. 137 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 4: This is actually a wild story. 138 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: I was moving in in Philadelphia after getting into you Penn, 139 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 3: and we had just signed a lease for a beautiful apartment. 140 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 3: It was a four story walk up and it was 141 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 3: the middle of summer, so it was August. We were 142 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 3: moving in the next day, and I remember just thinking 143 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 3: to myself, like, this doesn't feel like where I belong, Like. 144 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 4: I know I belong in NYU. 145 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 3: And so I was very persistent with the dean of 146 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 3: admissions there and I would. 147 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 4: Call her like I would tell you. Probably once a week. 148 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 3: I would call her and not like the call that 149 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 3: gets to the assistant, like her line I've found on 150 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 3: the NYU Internet, and I would call her directly and 151 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 3: I would say, you know, Doc, this is what I've 152 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 3: done this week. 153 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 4: I'm still like, really, Adam, and I want to go 154 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 4: to n YU. 155 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 3: And at one point she called me and she said, like, 156 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 3: you know what, like if I want to talk to. 157 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 4: You, I'm going to call you. And she hung up 158 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 4: on me, and I was like, oh, okay, I might 159 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 4: have barned that brand really quick. 160 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 3: And I remember the day before I was moving in 161 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 3: at U Penn, I wrote her an email and it 162 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 3: was one of the most heartfelt emails, and I just 163 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 3: said to her, like, I know it's been a little 164 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 3: bit since we've talked. I want this more than any 165 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 3: person you've interviewed in the last ten years. If there 166 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 3: is a chance that I will get off this wait list, 167 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 3: it's now or never, because tomorrow I move in at you, Penn, 168 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,239 Speaker 3: and that's it. It's over. 169 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 4: And so I didn't tell anybody about this. 170 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 3: And I was moving in and my other half he 171 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 3: saw that I left my cell phone in the car 172 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 3: and I did it intentionally because I was checking it 173 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 3: like a psychopath. 174 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 4: And he comes upstairs. 175 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 3: He pulls up the third air conditioner and he puts 176 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 3: my cellphone right on top and he goes, I think 177 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 3: your phone was bringing And I look at it and 178 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 3: it's a two on two number, and of course it 179 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 3: was the person who had me ends down. 180 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 2: Wow. 181 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 3: And we packed everything back up, and we lost probably 182 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 3: fifty thousand dollars of my apartment that I had just 183 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 3: got the key about an hour before. 184 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 4: I just signed the lease, so I was liable for that. 185 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 4: I lost my deposit for U Penn, and I just 186 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 4: packed my stuff up. 187 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 3: I had had a series of going away parties, moving 188 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 3: from New. 189 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 4: York to Philadelphia. And then I said to everybody, was. 190 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: Like he did your parents like freak out? Or were 191 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: they advocates for this? They were like, do what. 192 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 2: You need to do. 193 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 3: So happy about it because she knew I would come 194 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 3: back and that passed, but you know, like she was 195 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 3: just so excited to just have me back. And you know, 196 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 3: that was the pivotal moment. And it was four years 197 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 3: before I even knew who my mentors to be were. 198 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 3: You know, I wanted to go to Moyu because it 199 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 3: was just so well known. It was a school that 200 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 3: has such a high standard for teaching dentists because it's 201 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 3: in the epicenter of New York City and you're getting 202 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 3: amazing amount of people from all over the. 203 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 4: World, right, and so the eveness level is super high. 204 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 3: And I remember driving past this sign on First Avenue 205 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 3: it said the Rosenthal Institute of Aesthetic Dentistry. 206 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 4: It's like, that's really cool. 207 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 3: My first year, I remember listening to doctor Larry Rosenthal, 208 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 3: who had that area named after him. In my first 209 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 3: year of dental school, and he had this restauranteur like 210 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 3: a video of him. 211 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 4: His name is Amelia, and Amelia was talking. 212 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 3: About how he had just had his teeth done and 213 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 3: how his teeth are so sexy and how it gives 214 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 3: him confidence. And I'm a first year danal student and 215 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 3: I'm like, I just barely learned how to prep a tooth, 216 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 3: like he's talking about the years, Like what is this 217 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 3: And it was the first time in my life that 218 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 3: I said that is what I want to do. Wow. 219 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 3: And the story just gets so much better from there 220 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 3: because that was the doctor Larry Rosenthal right forward. So 221 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 3: he's actually like a legend in dentistry. I know, like 222 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 3: people might not know who he is. 223 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 2: It's like he's a Anna Wintur of dentist. 224 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 4: Right, that's a better analogy. While we're on climbing on heels. 225 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: You know, I had to I had to bring it 226 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: to fashion somehow, right. 227 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 3: And so the next year I was part of an 228 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 3: aesthetics community and they brought in doctor Michael Appa. And 229 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 3: I remember this so clearly, like if I close my eyes, 230 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 3: he has this video on and it's got this there's 231 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 3: the medio. 232 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 4: It's like the song. 233 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 3: And to see him traveling back and forth Dubai and 234 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 3: treating all these amazing people and he's talking about cosmetic dentistry. 235 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 3: Did I know that he worked alongside doctor Larry Rosenhol 236 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 3: No way had that same feeling. And so after that, 237 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 3: you know, both of those people were bum rushed by people. 238 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 3: And I'm not somebody that's going to like climb over 239 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 3: people to get that opportunity. I'm just going to figure 240 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 3: out a different way of getting the opportunity. So I 241 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 3: called the office thirty seven times and I said, you know, 242 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 3: my name is Andy. 243 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 4: I'm a dental student. 244 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 3: I really love like any time I would love to 245 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 3: just spend time, like if you need help, if you 246 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 3: need an. 247 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 4: Assistant, like I will, I'll assist, Like whatever you need. 248 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:18,599 Speaker 1: Wa Andy, were you were you one of Like was 249 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: it still did it feel very male? 250 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 2: Were there any women in this or was it all men? Still? 251 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 4: No women? All men? 252 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 2: No women? 253 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 4: What is the truth is in this practice? 254 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 3: I am the only woman that they have ever had 255 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 3: in thirty years of this dental practice. 256 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 4: And so I think that that's such a huge. 257 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 3: Almost like a huge weight in my shoulders because I 258 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 3: want to not only represent myself, I want to represent 259 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 3: other women, but I also just want to be the 260 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 3: best version of myself for my entire team. And my 261 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 3: hope is that as this brand grows, that we will 262 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 3: have many women as dentists in this brand. But it 263 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 3: just takes one more open for the rest of them, 264 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 3: you know. 265 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: So after doctor Rosenthalt, So what happened? So you're in 266 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: this world of men. I'm in this world of men, 267 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: and I'm fighting. You're fighting the line, You're fighting to 268 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: get to them. 269 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 3: The first time I ever went into the office that 270 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 3: I obviously worked for for many many years, I was 271 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 3: a third year dental student and I didn't own a. 272 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 4: Pair of heels. 273 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 3: I was not a very good dresser, and I had 274 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 3: very very little money to do any of those things 275 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 3: because I was in dental school and I was spending 276 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 3: all my money on dental school. And I remember getting 277 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 3: there and them saying like, Okay, listen, these are patients 278 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 3: that are paying a lot of money. 279 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 4: They're traveling from all over the world to be here. 280 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 3: Please just be like a fly on the wall, like, 281 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 3: don't speak unless you're spoken to, like, just be really respectful. 282 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 2: And I get it, Yeah, of course, you know, Like. 283 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 3: I would say the same thing to anybody coming in 284 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 3: shadowing for the kiss and oh. I remember doctor Rosenthal 285 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 3: was like having trouble midday with the camera and I 286 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 3: was like, let me just let me just take that, 287 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 3: and I took photos for him and he's like, you 288 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 3: can do this. 289 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 4: I was like, of course, I can do this, and 290 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 4: so the whole day I took. 291 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 3: Photos and at the end of the day he like 292 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 3: pulled me into his office and he's tried to give 293 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 3: me one hundred dollars and I was like, no, no, 294 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 3: like you don't get it, Like I don't. 295 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 4: I do not need your ninety I did need his money. 296 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 4: I do not need your money. 297 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 3: But I would love to come back. And I came 298 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 3: back every week. And nobody knows this, by the way, 299 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 3: because I wasn't the person that was like screaming this 300 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 3: to the world, because I wanted this opportunity. So I 301 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 3: would go every Tuesday from my third year Donald School 302 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 3: all the way through my residency. I used to call 303 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 3: out from my residency sorry to go and shadow there 304 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 3: on Tuesdays, and then on Wednesdays I would be so 305 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 3: wildly unhappy because I wasn't doing the work. 306 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 4: That I wanted to do right. 307 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 3: And so as this time had gone on, the clinic 308 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 3: was bought out by doctor Appa, who had been there 309 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 3: for ten plus years at that point, and it became 310 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 3: the Appa Rosenthal Group. And so at that time doctor 311 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 3: Appa was actually opening Dubai and he. 312 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 4: Wasn't going to be in the clinic as much. He 313 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 4: there was an. 314 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 3: Opportunity to bring somebody on, and he had sat me 315 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 3: down and he said to me, you know, I think 316 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 3: you'd be a right. 317 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 4: Fit for this place. 318 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 3: I think that with me going to Dubai more, it 319 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 3: opens up opportunity to have you here to meet the patients, 320 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 3: get to know the patients, treat emergencies, start building your 321 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 3: career underneath ours. And that was an amazed the first off, 322 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 3: the best day of my life, like April twenty sixth 323 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 3: I know the date, I remember it clearly. 324 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 4: It was a beautiful outside. 325 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 3: But it started there, and so I had to work really, 326 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 3: really hard. The first few years. I was commuting from 327 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 3: Staaten Island. It was a Brooklyn girl. Originally I moved 328 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 3: to Staten Island for a little bit. I was commuting 329 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 3: two and a half hours each way in the car. 330 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 3: So I was working five days a week, commuting in 331 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 3: the car four hours a day. 332 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 4: I would get there at seven point thirty. I would 333 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 4: leave no earlier than eight pm. We then opened LA. 334 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 4: I was here for. 335 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 3: The opening in LA four years ago, five years ago now, 336 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 3: and it just started to grow. 337 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 4: And my job underneath them was to build my own brands. 338 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 3: Right like I'm not Appa, I'm not Rosenthal. People are 339 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 3: not picking up the phone to ask for this girl 340 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 3: from Brooklyn, right, So I had to work really hard 341 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 3: to get patients into the chairs, because if I didn't 342 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 3: bring in patients, I wasn't treating them and I wasn't 343 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 3: doing the type of cosmetic dentistry that I wanted to do, 344 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 3: and so, you know, the first few years were it's 345 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 3: like a blur. Now, they were the years that really 346 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 3: built my work ethic. And I would just study Appa. 347 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 3: I would sit and stand in his operatory and I 348 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 3: would watch what. 349 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 4: They were doing. 350 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 3: I would watch how they would carve teeth. I would 351 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 3: watch how they would speak to patients. And it became 352 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 3: part of me. And so I always say that I'm 353 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 3: the best of both of them, with a little bit 354 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 3: of womanly, you know, nurture energy makes that makes me 355 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 3: very different. 356 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 4: And I love being a part of this team. You know. 357 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 3: I worked in New York for eight years. I was 358 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 3: asked to move my life across country and come and 359 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 3: help in the LA Clinic now, and so I run 360 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 3: the LA Clinic. 361 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 4: And it's been such. 362 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 3: An amazing journey because I remember five six years ago 363 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 3: coming to this clinic in LA and being like, it 364 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 3: must be so amazing to work here and live in 365 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 3: Beverly Hills and here we are, like me, it's manifesting 366 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 3: your future. 367 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 4: I love it. Why do people ask me, oh my god, 368 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 4: do you love it there? 369 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 3: I feel like you're gonna hate it, like you're in 370 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 3: New York and I think it is. 371 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 2: It's like living on vacation. If you're coming from Brooklyn 372 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 2: and Stuttn Island, You're like, do people get to live here? 373 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 3: I cannot agree with you more. I love it here. 374 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 3: I'm not going anywhere. I will be here for a 375 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 3: very long time. 376 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: Well, thank god, because we're not actually letting you go anywhere. 377 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: We're not letting you go anywhere. You're stuck with me. 378 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: I mean anyone and everyone. I mean, what a dream, 379 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: like this whole process. You're so good at what you do, 380 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: You're like, you know, listen. I always say, you know, 381 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: I've really talked about on Cleman heals a lot. But 382 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: I also say, in any interview into anyone who will listen. 383 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 1: You know, I think for many, many years women were 384 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: pushed down for bringing emotion into the job. 385 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 2: And what I would. 386 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: Say to that is like that that's truly our superpower 387 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: in my opinion, because I know as a woman, I 388 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: want emotion in any job. You know, whether you're my doctor, 389 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: you're my lawyer, you're my teacher, you're my whatever, my train, 390 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: like anything or anyone, I want emotion in it. We're 391 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: not robots, you know, We're not supposed to be robots, 392 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: and I think that you know, to your point, I 393 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 1: think people do their best work when they're empowered to 394 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: just do it. Like I think, if you trust the 395 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: process and someone is known for what they do, you 396 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: have to let them do it. 397 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 3: Right. 398 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 2: I met you and I was like, we're you know, 399 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 2: we're done. I mean, do you have any fears? 400 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: Like are you because you're you're so like you're just 401 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: such like a baller, what are your fears? 402 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 4: Tell me tons of fear. 403 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 3: I have tons of anxiety, like the things you were 404 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 3: just talking about. Like, let's let's break that down for 405 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 3: a second. Right, people come and they have been thinking 406 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 3: about this for so long. Right, they've done their research, 407 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 3: They've met with all the doctors that they want to 408 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 3: meet with, and they have. 409 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 4: Chosen me right right not to me? 410 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 3: That alone, that one decision, I think is such an 411 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 3: important thing because I now need to deliver on all 412 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 3: of the promises that I promised you. 413 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 2: Right. 414 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: So I sound like me in my styling career. It's 415 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: like there's no margin for error, right. 416 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 4: Zero, because every patient matters to me? 417 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 3: Why because I don't have a gazillion patience, especially I'm 418 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 3: in LA now like I'm rebuilding my name, right. I 419 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 3: spent ten years in New York building my name. Now 420 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:43,479 Speaker 3: I'm building in a completely different environment. And so every case, 421 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 3: every patient, every smile, every interaction matters because just like 422 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 3: take you, for example, you are screaming, you're my rating fan. 423 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 3: You're screaming from the rooftops, how amazing this experience is. 424 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 4: I now have to live up to that for every. 425 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 3: Patient that comes comes after you. But not every patient 426 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 3: is like you, Rachel. Not every patient is going to 427 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 3: give themselves over. And so I make this analogy sometimes 428 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 3: like we are driving on a bus together and you're 429 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 3: a passenger. I'm driving the bus, and we can drive 430 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 3: the bus to the final destination or we can drive 431 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 3: it off the cliff. And it depends on what these interactions, 432 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 3: what happens in our interactions, that depends that create that outcome. Sorry, 433 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 3: And so you know, if you give yourself over to it, 434 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 3: I'm going to give. 435 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 4: You the best that I know how to. 436 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 3: But when you start to micromanage and you say, like 437 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 3: what about this corner or what about this edge, You're 438 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 3: missing the bigger picture because I'm looking at how you 439 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 3: look as a whole. I'm not looking at this so 440 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 3: for me, that is one of the hardest things is 441 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 3: figuring out what somebody's expectation for treatment is and what 442 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 3: the image in. 443 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 4: Their mind that they have have of what they want 444 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 4: to look like. 445 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 3: I need to match that expectation, and sometimes that's incredibly difficult, 446 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 3: you know, for as many happy patients as we have, 447 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 3: I'm sure the more dentistry you do, the more unhappy 448 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 3: patients you can have. And some of those unhappy patients 449 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 3: it doesn't come from the dentistry now, it. 450 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 2: Doesn't matter, and so they just. 451 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 3: Put their shit on you, and it's like, you know, 452 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 3: I did a good job. 453 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 4: I did this to the best that I know how. 454 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 3: I'm sorry that you're not happy, But you know what 455 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 3: one thing about me is, I will make sure at 456 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 3: the end of the day, if you allow me to 457 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 3: make some adjustments, make some change, maybe we reduce whatever 458 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 3: it is. 459 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 4: I will get you there. But you have to trust 460 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 4: that I. 461 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 3: Can, of course, and that's sometimes really hard for patients, 462 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 3: you know, to really let go and give in the process. 463 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: It's so I mean, I don't know. I I'm just 464 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: so impressed with you. I'm so impressed with the process. 465 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: I'm so impressed with all of it as someone has 466 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: come from fashion and styling and jewelry and all the things. 467 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: Like the first thing I thought when I walked in 468 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: there was like watching them the lab like create the 469 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: teeth was like going into the jewelry labs in Paris 470 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: of like Cartier, and it was so incredible. 471 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 4: That's so important. We got to talk about that for once. 472 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 2: Okay, go for it. 473 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 3: That is how have you ever been to a restaurant 474 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 3: and sat at the chef's table, like in the kitchen 475 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 3: with a glass like that was how our clinics were thought, like. 476 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 2: This is what we wanted to really like show that. 477 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 3: So the goal is when you come in, you are 478 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 3: watching the teeth be hand layered. This is art at 479 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 3: the highest level actually, and I think, yeah, so often 480 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 3: people will come in and they'll just stand by the 481 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 3: glass and. 482 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 4: Watch the surrassed layer the color. And for me that's 483 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 4: the best. 484 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 3: Like we're taking a little bit of powder and a 485 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,959 Speaker 3: little bit of liquid and we're hand painting these teeth. 486 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 4: We then put them in the oven. The oven makes 487 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 4: them hard, and then we can readd or add in 488 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 4: shape and. 489 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 3: Create these little little tiny thing pieces of porcelain kind 490 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 3: of as thin as an eggshell, bond it to your 491 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 3: tooth and completely change your life. 492 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 4: No, it's to me. 493 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 2: It's true. 494 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: I'm telling you it is the most fascinating thing that 495 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: I never knew about. 496 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 2: No, it actually is. 497 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:34,479 Speaker 1: I also want you to know, like all I do 498 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 1: is look at people's teeth. It's really that has been 499 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: the happen That is the worst part of all of 500 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 1: this is now all I do is. 501 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 2: It's wild. 502 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: I never noticed people's teeth, and now I'm obsessed with 503 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: everyone's teeth. It's insane. I am so impressed with you. 504 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: I'm so happy you're a woman. I'm so happy I 505 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: get to have you as my dentist until I'm dead, 506 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: and I just am really lucky that I got to 507 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: meet you. And I would tell anyone who would listen 508 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,719 Speaker 1: that if they're lucky enough to come to LA and 509 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: go to have you as their dentist, or to be honest, 510 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: I mean anyone on your team. Although I can really 511 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: only speak to you, but people speak speak about you 512 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: from my experience, but I could say I don't know 513 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: a person that goes to APPA anywhere that's not obsessed. 514 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: So I mean I and I'm not paid to do this. 515 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: I'm not selling anything. I just want everyone to know 516 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: because I'm so freaking happy with my teeth that I 517 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 1: want to scream it at the top of mountains. What 518 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: did I say to you when I met you? I said, 519 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you're a woman. 520 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 4: So glad you're a woman. 521 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 3: And you know that's what I attract Rachel, Like, I 522 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 3: think when you are looking. 523 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 4: For somebody to do something, and this. 524 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 2: Is personal, like something very personal. 525 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 4: Yes, hair, like the people become part of your. 526 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,719 Speaker 1: Life a thousand and it's different, like we have to 527 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: like each other otherwise you're. 528 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 2: In my mouth. 529 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: Let's just let's I'm just getting real here. You're in 530 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: my mouth. So I am you know, literally I think 531 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 1: meeting you truthfully for me was the okay, let's do it. 532 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: Because because I am someone who over the last I 533 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: would say decade of my life has made it so 534 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 1: that every single person I have around me for the 535 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: most part, is female, like any doctor, any anyone even 536 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: for my children, like whether it's a tutor or a 537 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 1: coach or whatever. I just want female energy around me 538 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: in that way. Doctors, my doctors are have always been 539 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: only female. And you know, I think so women really 540 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: have no issues with it at all. I think for me, 541 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: I can relax differently in a personal situation when it's 542 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: a woman, and I think there's something where we really 543 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: speak the same language. Right, So when I sat in 544 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: your chair, and you know, I was very forthcoming. I 545 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 1: don't do teeth stuff. This really freaks me out. I'm like, really, 546 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: you know, because there's a few people in my life, 547 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 1: like and on my team that their thing is their teeth. 548 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: Their teeth are immaculate all the time, They're white as hell, 549 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: they're perfect, they get cleanings every three months. I don't 550 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: love people in my mouth, and I have a thing 551 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 1: about dentistry. And I met you and I left there 552 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: and I was like, can I do this tomorrow? 553 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 3: And and you were so excited. 554 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: And not only did you make it happen, but like 555 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: I became completely obsessed and truthfully, like it's so funny. 556 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 1: It's been probably like three months now, almost three months 557 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: since I got my doctor Andy teeth, Doctor Andy, doctor 558 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: Appa teeth. Everything you said is true, which is my 559 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: mouth has literally been retrained. And I find myself smiling 560 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: without knowing I'm smiling. I'm smiling while I'm talking. My 561 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: teen keeps getting these pictures of me smiling. I don't 562 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: even know it happened, and you know, it's absolutely surreal. 563 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: And the funny thing is I didn't really not like 564 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: my teeth before, but now I love my teeth. Now 565 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: I love my teeth like they my teeth actually make 566 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: me happy every day when I wake up. 567 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 3: The biggest thing, though, Rachel, is you you have to go. 568 00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 4: Into this with the right mindset, which you absolutely did. 569 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 3: You were completely trusting of the process, and my job 570 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 3: is to kind of hold your hand through it and 571 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 3: still what we're which is the most important part, because 572 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 3: I think where fear starts or anxiety starts. 573 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 4: Is fear of the unknown. What will it be like? 574 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 4: What will will it be painful? Will it be uncomfortable? 575 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 4: What will I look like? Right? 576 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 3: My assurance to you is nobody is gonna know you're 577 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 3: going through this process right, and when you choose the 578 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 3: right dentist, If you choose the right dentist, that's how 579 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 3: the process should be. It shouldn't be filled with all 580 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 3: the bad things that dentistry is known for. It should 581 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 3: be filled with excitement because you're enhancing part of your face. 582 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 3: And honestly, I think the best part of your face, 583 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 3: of course, the best part about watching you all summer, Rachel, 584 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 3: and just looking through your speed and seeing you selling 585 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 3: you by the way, happy belated birthday. 586 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you so much, thank you. 587 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 3: But seeing you celebrate and smile, like there was a 588 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 3: picture that I saw of you blowing out candles or 589 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 3: smiling with your cake, and I'm just like, she is 590 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 3: finally feeling better, and I could just tell the musculature 591 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 3: around your smile is changing. You are feeling good, and 592 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 3: that just you don't feel self conscious about this thing, 593 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 3: not that you ever really. 594 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 2: Did you, Oh no, but I don't know. 595 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: But the truth is, like I didn't smile because as 596 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: you get older, you know, there was always this thing 597 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: like don't smile after thirty five, right, And it wasn't 598 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: like I ever follow those things. But what I started 599 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: to realize is that as you get older, when you smile, 600 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: your smile changes. Your smile goes down instead of up, 601 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: your smile goes sideways instead of up. Your smile is crooked, 602 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: your wrinkles show more, your everything, right, And so when 603 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: you were telling me this, like I believed you, but 604 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: part of me didn't believe you, Like I believed you 605 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: because I was like, okay, like I'm doing this, so 606 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: she doesn't need to sell me on it, like I'm 607 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: gonna do this. 608 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 2: But if even. 609 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: A quarter of what she says is true, I'm happy, right, 610 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: And so since that time, I'm like, I cannot believe 611 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: that I didn't know about this world of cosmetic dentistry 612 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: because it's it is. 613 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 2: Like life changing and it's not. 614 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it's a vanity thing, like yes, of course, 615 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: it can be like anything that's esthetic, right, like of 616 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: course you can look at it like, oh, it's a 617 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: superficial like, oh. 618 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 2: I just want you to for me. It became. 619 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: It really affected the way I talk to people, the 620 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: way I feel when I talk to people literally and 621 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: take photos. And I don't think I realized it until afterwards. 622 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 3: You know, you know what the most interesting thing I 623 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 3: see patients from all over the world, and I look 624 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 3: a lot at fate. I start with the face when 625 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 3: I'm designing a smile, because what we can do in 626 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 3: the teeth, and we can change how balanced your face 627 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 3: looks right to left if you have and as we age, 628 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 3: we lose collagen, we lose elastin, and we start. 629 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 4: To get more sunk in, especially in the mid phase. 630 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 3: And so if I could take teeth and build them 631 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 3: out and support all of this soft tissue, you need 632 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 3: less fillers, you need less injectables, you need less Plastic 633 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 3: surgery work right. So many times I see patients come 634 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 3: in and they come in after they've had a facelift 635 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 3: or after they've done something, and I just want to 636 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 3: shake them, and I want to say, before you. 637 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 4: Do anything with the soft tissue, deal with the hard tissue. 638 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 3: Deal with the position of the teeth, because then you'll 639 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 3: need a lot less. 640 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 4: Help from your surgeon. And you know a lot of 641 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 4: patients do. 642 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 3: We work very closely with many different plastic surgeons all 643 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 3: over the world, and I think see. 644 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 4: Conjunction cases where we work together. That's where you see 645 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 4: true beauty start to be created, not just from the teeth, 646 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,719 Speaker 4: but enhancing everything else as well. You can truly transform 647 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 4: your entire face starting with the teeth. 648 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 2: By the way, and you were right, you were right. 649 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: As soon as I got to the East Coast, people 650 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: who know me really really well, they. 651 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 2: Keep going, you look amazing. What did you do? What 652 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 2: did you do? Which is what you said. 653 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: You're like You're like, they're not going to know what 654 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: you did, and I'm like, I didn't do anything. And 655 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: at one point, because for anyone that gets to experience 656 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: doctor Andy or doctor Apple, like the greatest surprise for 657 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: me was I don't feel my teeth any different. These 658 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: feel like my teeth, and they are my teeth. It's 659 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: like my teeth with a better shell. 660 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 2: Like but it's it. But because I don't feel it, 661 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 2: I don't remember it. So someone will be like whoa. 662 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: And this this guy friend of mine who is always 663 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: on my face because he's a master at skin ivan 664 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: and he said to me. 665 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 2: Babe, what is it you look? 666 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 1: You're like radiant, You're like today it was a first 667 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: night I got there and I was like, I don't know, 668 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,320 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, my teeth. 669 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 2: I did and he was like, oh my god, that's it. 670 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 2: It changed everything. 671 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god. So you were right 672 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: all around. And I love your story, I love your determination, 673 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: I love I love you know. 674 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 2: I really look at weirdly. 675 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: I look at cosmetic dentistry very much like being a stylist, 676 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 1: where you know, for me, it wasn't about the dress. 677 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 2: It was just about like the overall. 678 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 1: I want to create how they feel when they walk outside. 679 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: I want to I want to look at everything from 680 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: top to bottom. I want to understand their like insides 681 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 1: to really like project the outside. And you know, I 682 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: always looked at it very holistically, and I think that's 683 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: for me. People I'm attracted to are always people that 684 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: look at things in a big way, not just in 685 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: the part that they're paid to do, because that's just 686 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: the job, right, that's just the job. 687 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 4: We see a lot of times. 688 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 3: You know, say somebody, if you're unhappy with the way 689 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:22,760 Speaker 3: that you look or feel, there is such a subconscious. 690 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 4: Part of that that plays a huge role. 691 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 3: After we do their teeth at like the six month mark, 692 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 3: maybe change their hair color, maybe they have a new girlfriend, 693 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 3: or they're getting engaged. Like that is the best part 694 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 3: about treating patients is actually going on their life journey. 695 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 4: I just had a girl, a patient. She was so sweet. 696 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,439 Speaker 3: I did her teeth like maybe five years ago, four 697 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 3: years ago, and she came in and she's like, I 698 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 3: am gonna get married soon. It's gonna happen. I'm manifesting it. 699 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 3: I was like, did you meet the guy yet? And 700 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 3: she's like no, But it happen, and once I do, 701 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 3: I'm gonna get me and I can't get married looking 702 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 3: like this. 703 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 4: So we did her teeth. She just had her wedding 704 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:06,879 Speaker 4: last week. 705 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 3: And when I tell you, every every shot teeth, teeth, 706 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 3: it was she wasn't thinking about it. 707 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 4: And that to me, giving somebody's confidence back is a 708 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 4: huge thing, right I. 709 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 3: You know, And I also love the effect that patients 710 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 3: that I meet have on me. I met this one patient, 711 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 3: her name was Vanessa. She was super sweet. She was 712 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:36,280 Speaker 3: a teacher, and she came to me right during COVID 713 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:37,919 Speaker 3: and she had said, you know, I saved a little 714 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 3: bit of money up. I don't have a ton of money, 715 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 3: but I really want to do this with you. And 716 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 3: I said, okay, well let's figure out what we can 717 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 3: do for you. And she had told me this one 718 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,760 Speaker 3: line that I thought of all through COVID and she said, 719 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 3: my goal is to come out of COVID a COVID butterfly. 720 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 4: And I said to her, I love that. And these 721 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,720 Speaker 4: are just patients that have come into my life, patients 722 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 4: because my. 723 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 2: Friends either way, my kids would tell you it's called 724 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 2: a glow up. 725 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 4: It is. 726 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 2: My kids have taught me about a glow up. Glow up. 727 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 4: I got to glow up. 728 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 2: I got a glow up with my smile. I got 729 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 2: a smile glow up. I mean, I. 730 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 4: Love that your kids notice that already. 731 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 2: Like my kids are obsessed with my teeth. 732 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 4: I love it. We got to get them at the office. 733 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 1: I'm coming in next week. I'm coming in with a teenager. 734 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 4: It's happening. We gotta get you back in also in 735 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 4: check up. 736 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 1: I'm also I'm gonna I don't want to take too 737 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 1: much of your time. I want to do a quick 738 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: rapid fire with you. Okay, ready, this should be interesting. 739 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:39,359 Speaker 4: Now. 740 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 1: I think you're going to be torn on the first one, 741 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 1: but because you're going to feel an allegiance. But I 742 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: think I know how you feel. Okay, ready, New York 743 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: or La la wow wow snaps, look at you. 744 00:37:55,560 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 2: Okay, I love that for you. Okay. Biggest pet peeve. 745 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,720 Speaker 3: When somebody is dressed to the nines and their teeth 746 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:13,280 Speaker 3: don't match their nature, like the most amazing human beings, 747 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 3: the wealthiest human beings that fly all over the world 748 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 3: with a private jet, and they don't understand what their teeth. 749 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 4: Can do to you. 750 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 2: I'm dying okay, beach or mountains. 751 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 4: I'm a beach girl. Oh it used to be a lifeguard. 752 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 4: I love it. 753 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 2: What's your favorite season? 754 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 4: Like fall? I don't like to sweat outside, same breathe. 755 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 2: Same morning person or night owl? 756 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 3: Oh I am the I am the biggest morning person. 757 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 3: I get up, get my day started, go to the 758 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 3: gym with my trainer. It gets my mind right to 759 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:46,760 Speaker 3: treat patients. 760 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:47,359 Speaker 2: I love it. 761 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,919 Speaker 1: Also, you started in dentistry school leaving at your house 762 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: like at four am. 763 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that'll make you a morning verson. Who's your hero? 764 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 4: I mean that is a big one. 765 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 2: Doctor doctor mom. 766 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 3: It is it is doctor Abba for so many reasons, 767 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 3: Like I could, I could tell you things about our 768 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 3: relationship that are just We've been up and down in 769 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 3: our relationship over fourteen years of being you know, friends 770 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 3: and mentors and colleagues. He has had the biggest impact 771 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 3: on my life that has truly brought you to who 772 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 3: you see in front of you. He knew things about 773 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 3: me that I didn't even know about myself. He knew 774 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 3: that LA would be a good option for me. He 775 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 3: knew all of these things. 776 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 4: Before I knew it. 777 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 3: And I think you have to have people a little 778 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 3: further along to help guide you and shuffle you back 779 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 3: in when you're not going down. 780 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 4: The right path. 781 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 3: And he has been the hugest asset to me, and 782 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 3: I inspire to be like him and grow to be 783 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 3: a female version of him, but but not really of him, 784 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 3: of me. 785 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 2: I love this. Okay. Another job you would ever want 786 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 2: to try? 787 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 4: Oh, that's easy. I'd be a teacher. 788 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,879 Speaker 3: I teach dentistry all over the world, and I love 789 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 3: teaching because the impact that you can have is so exponential. 790 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,839 Speaker 3: If I teach somebody something, they're going to take this 791 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 3: and bring it back to their practice and then that 792 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 3: affects all of their patients. 793 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,760 Speaker 4: So I definitely would be a teacher. 794 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:22,359 Speaker 2: I'd love that. 795 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:22,840 Speaker 3: Okay. 796 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,720 Speaker 1: If you were arrested, what would it be for? Ooh, 797 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 1: mine would be night driving. Mine would be night driving, 798 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 1: or yelling at someone at the airport that wouldn't let 799 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,240 Speaker 1: me bring my luggage through, or like opening my bags 800 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: because it had too much stuff in it. 801 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 2: I could get arrested for that, for sure. 802 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 3: I would probably get arrested, like sticking up for one 803 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 3: of my friends or something like I am loyal to 804 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 3: the core, like coming in now, I'm joking. 805 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna hit anybody. 806 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 2: Brooklyn girl, I. 807 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,799 Speaker 4: Exitely quickly, girl comes down. 808 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, just supporting my friends probably would get me into 809 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 3: trouble somewhere. 810 00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 2: Flats or heels, Oh, heels all day. I love this 811 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,760 Speaker 2: for you. That's why you're on climbing and heels. 812 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 4: I wanted to I was going to say. I was like, 813 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 4: should I should I get my I can't get it up, 814 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 4: get up that high. But I was like, I'm going 815 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,919 Speaker 4: to wear heels to this, even though she won't see them. 816 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 1: I love it. I knew you were in heels. I 817 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:20,439 Speaker 1: knew I just I felt it. I felt it. One 818 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 1: piece of advice you'd give your younger self, be patient 819 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: with yourself. 820 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:25,399 Speaker 4: It does. 821 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,240 Speaker 3: It takes time to really grow yourself. I was always 822 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 3: so anxious and just wanted to get to be great. 823 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,760 Speaker 3: But the fun is in the climb to being great. 824 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 3: You know, once you're at the top of the mountain, 825 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 3: that's less fun. It's the climb up the mountain that 826 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 3: truly gives you the best life experience. 827 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 2: Hence climbing and heels. 828 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,280 Speaker 4: Hence climbing and heels. 829 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 2: I love you, doctor Andy, You're the best. 830 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 1: I'm going to see you next week. 831 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 2: I'm so excited. 832 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:59,280 Speaker 1: I just would scream at any mountaintop, go to doctor Andy, 833 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 1: go to doctor Apa. I've never been happier with anything 834 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 1: I've ever done. 835 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 2: It's just the best, truly. 836 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 4: Well, thank you. 837 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,799 Speaker 3: Thank you for being a great patient, for trusting the process, 838 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 3: and for truly giving yourself the opportunity to feel like 839 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 3: the best version of yourself. 840 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 4: And that's the best part of this whole thing. So 841 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:23,799 Speaker 4: thank you. 842 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,359 Speaker 1: We got to smile through life, right, so you might 843 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 1: as well try and look the best while doing it. 844 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 1: Thank you so much to doctor Andy for coming on 845 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 1: the pod today and sharing her incredible journey as a 846 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:37,359 Speaker 1: cosmetic dentist in. 847 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 2: A very male driven industry. 848 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 1: I was so excited because I think I assumed that 849 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 1: I was meeting with the mail when I went in 850 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 1: for my consultation, and after I met doctor Andy, I 851 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 1: just I couldn't do this quick enough. And I have 852 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 1: to say, it's been the greatest thing I've done, you know, 853 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 1: because I've never done anything real my face or my 854 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 1: body or anything, and not that this was real, like 855 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,840 Speaker 1: it's not surgery or anything, but the process is a process, 856 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,839 Speaker 1: but it's it's amazing, like it's painless, it's I don't know, 857 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 1: I just my smile smiles now, like literally, and I'm 858 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 1: so grateful and I'm so happy that I did it. 859 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 1: And I think if anyone's thinking about tweaking their teeth 860 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,799 Speaker 1: or getting it doesn't feel like fake teeth, because they're not. 861 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 1: It's still my teeth, but with a little extra eggshell 862 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 1: over it, a very very thin eggshell. And I don't know, 863 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 1: I couldn't be happier. So thank you so much to 864 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 1: all of you for listening to Climbing in Heels. I 865 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 1: love how much you're loving it. If you haven't already, 866 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 1: please subscribe to the show an Apple podcast, Spotify, the 867 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,799 Speaker 1: iHeart app, or wherever you get your podcasts. You don't 868 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 1: miss a single episode this season. Be sure to follow 869 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,320 Speaker 1: me on Instagram at at rachel Zo and the show 870 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 1: at at Climbing in Heels pod for the latest episodes 871 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 1: and updates. 872 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 2: I will talk to you very soon, Ma,