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Speaker 1: DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomne the guy. We are the

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Speaker 1: Breakfast Club, special guests in the building, pt cruisers with

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Speaker 1: the gangs of y'all. All right, man, staying down with it.

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Speaker 1: How you feel about to see you in a wild Yeah? Man,

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Speaker 1: Good to see y'all boys. Good to see my boys.

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Speaker 1: Shot ain't seen you said your birthday party down in

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Speaker 1: the seeing Columbia. Yeah, man, just kicking up what you

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Speaker 1: got going now. You remained relatively independent your whole career.

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Speaker 1: Why is that, man? Um? It was I started off independent, man,

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Speaker 1: But after I was finished with my contract, I just

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Speaker 1: went back to my independent roots with a lot of

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Speaker 1: that major game with me. You said you had to

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Speaker 1: go major. I had to go major, man, because I

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Speaker 1: hooked up with this, uh, this guy Jane Griffin signed

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Speaker 1: a contract and it stopped me from having my own label.

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Speaker 1: It was like I signed on to him. He turned

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Speaker 1: me over to Universal or whatever. It was cool, man,

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Speaker 1: it worked out for him. It was a good thing.

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Speaker 1: I learned a lot being with the majors. But when

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Speaker 1: I went back independent, I was showing up Freddy. Now

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Speaker 1: everybody's trying to get back, so glad I've been here.

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Speaker 1: Back then, a lot of people wanted to sign you.

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Speaker 1: Remember Scarface wanted to sign you the job South? Yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: you know he was holding at me. Man. I come

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Speaker 1: home one day, Man, Scarface sitting in the living room

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Speaker 1: with my parents. I'm like, what's going on? Yeah? Man?

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Speaker 1: It was so crazy, man, because everybody knows my father

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Speaker 1: meet me. But it was all good, man, real cool,

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Speaker 1: you know down South Man, I was telling somebody in

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Speaker 1: first solo artist to sign, you know, major deals in Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: and Man, just after that, man, it just opened up

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Speaker 1: so many doors, man, you know what I mean. It's

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Speaker 1: Universal they were like, what you want to do? What with? Who?

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Speaker 1: what I mean. So you got to be cool when

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Speaker 1: Got you Yeah, they they see intra like Puffy wanted

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Speaker 1: want Pastor Troy? Yeah? Yeah, he got another album over here?

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Speaker 1: Want to sign you? Yeah? Man, you know he was

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Speaker 1: trying to do the bad boy South stuff. You know.

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Speaker 1: ever listened to any of the lyrics and be like, nasam,

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Speaker 1: versa songs? Man? When I originally wrote that song, man,

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Speaker 1: it description the Bible now that said it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: what the good was really bad? What the bad was

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Speaker 1: always have the belt with Yeah? Man, I brought the

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Speaker 1: We're gonna beat him to death. Hey ya, but check

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Speaker 1: it out the belt, man. You know, everybody know I

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Speaker 1: had the infamous beat for master P at the beginning

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Speaker 1: of my career and the big, my big event, Man,

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Speaker 1: my coming out party was the Birthday Badge. It's kind

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Speaker 1: Good Mom ended up bringing me out on that concert. Man,

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Speaker 1: We can't let nobody show us down. Come on out, Troy.

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Speaker 1: Twenty thirty thousand people went retarded black balls after that though. Nah,

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Speaker 1: everything's been great, every sense to him. You know what

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Speaker 1: I really ran across men see murder Man. I'm glad

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Speaker 1: You know. He has signed on with Universal after that also,

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Speaker 1: That phone call was that a real phone call? No? Man, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's great. A lot of dudes that came out of me,

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Speaker 1: But it just ain't working for him now while run

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Speaker 1: around the championship belt. Now, yeah, I caught what I

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Speaker 1: with him? No he did not, I had mine, I said. Yo.

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Speaker 1: He was like, all right, Troy, Yeah, I know it

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Speaker 1: Walkers doing it too, man, what's up a little walk?

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Speaker 1: It was the beat for over though late, you know what, man.

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Speaker 1: I was talking to John explaining the same thing to him. Look, man,

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Speaker 1: He telling me, Troy, look, I gotta get you back

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Speaker 1: the ATL I gotta get your verse, all right, cool man.

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Speaker 1: I talked to Steve Gottlie but at the time the

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Speaker 1: prisident at the time of TVT, he was like, yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: John just turned his album. Man. Man, I was like,

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Speaker 1: where's Troy. I'm like he just turned to his album. Man,

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Speaker 1: when that stuff was going on. Man, because its pastoral Troy.

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Speaker 1: had just knocked off You don't think we could have

422
00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,480
Speaker 1: knocked off any and everything trying to come up on

423
00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,200
Speaker 1: that leveel. That just one approach I took. Man. We

424
00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:07,960
Speaker 1: tried to go up and get into New York. And

425
00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:09,720
Speaker 1: I'm one artist. Man. We need some more art. We

426
00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,840
Speaker 1: need allies in here. After we built up the allies,

427
00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,320
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I got it back, you know,

428
00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,119
Speaker 1: what I mean. I know you can see it that

429
00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,720
Speaker 1: Nori were ready remix happened crazy, man, Just Nori caught

430
00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,440
Speaker 1: me at a concert. Man. We were like in North

431
00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,000
Speaker 1: Carolina or something like that. Man, it was like the

432
00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:26,840
Speaker 1: rough ride of the tour. They had threw me on

433
00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:28,639
Speaker 1: that joint. Man, and he saw how crazy they was.

434
00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,159
Speaker 1: Asking down now. He was like, yo, I need to

435
00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,639
Speaker 1: be on that remix. I was like, you want to

436
00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,520
Speaker 1: get on no more playing GA? Yeah, Man, I'm with it.

437
00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,280
Speaker 1: I don't need nothing fun me let's go. I was like, man,

438
00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,199
Speaker 1: that's dope because that was my first time. You know,

439
00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,960
Speaker 1: that's when I started seeing that it was it was sticking,

440
00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean that it's sticking. What man,

441
00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,800
Speaker 1: we're spreading up out of Georgia. No more playing GA.

442
00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:54,440
Speaker 1: We're in North Carolina, were in Va La DC. Man,

443
00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,440
Speaker 1: DC is probably one of mine still top markets now. Man,

444
00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,639
Speaker 1: they just love a kind of music. Was he was

445
00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,760
Speaker 1: on Jude j Allick Show twice. Yeah, fulfilling the show

446
00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:07,040
Speaker 1: up for a show that about man. Judge Jallack is

447
00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,399
Speaker 1: real cool. Man, that's my homie, man dog. When they

448
00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,320
Speaker 1: were doing that stuff, Man, it was kind of really Uh,

449
00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,880
Speaker 1: it was all I'm looking at the national promotion. I'm independent, man,

450
00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,040
Speaker 1: you can't beat that kind of national promo. Man. Some

451
00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:19,800
Speaker 1: of little shows that they were talking about. Man, you

452
00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,280
Speaker 1: know when you do those little shows like that, they

453
00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,920
Speaker 1: pick up whatever descriptancies it is or whatever I need

454
00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,320
Speaker 1: the TV time, the whole love and guard. Then talk

455
00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,800
Speaker 1: about this movie we was Homeboys and all that stuff. Man,

456
00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,120
Speaker 1: So that one of the shows that I missed was real,

457
00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,399
Speaker 1: was real Homeboy had a show man like I had

458
00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,479
Speaker 1: problems in Augusta, Georgia. Man, You know what I mean.

459
00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,280
Speaker 1: It's hard in your hometown. A lot of people die

460
00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,520
Speaker 1: in their hometown. Rest and piece to change. Don't be

461
00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,720
Speaker 1: all those people like that. Man, It's real hard where

462
00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,879
Speaker 1: you come from. People don't get it. And HOMEBA just

463
00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,639
Speaker 1: had a show book in one area, but it was

464
00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,000
Speaker 1: on the same radio frequency as Augustus. Man. These boys

465
00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,480
Speaker 1: can hear this, man, These boys can ride thirty minutes

466
00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:56,720
Speaker 1: down the street. You know what I mean. I just

467
00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,560
Speaker 1: didn't feel good about that show. You know what I mean?

468
00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,320
Speaker 1: One thing number one man, you know what I mean.

469
00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,760
Speaker 1: So damn what you're talking about. You're gonna miss out

470
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,000
Speaker 1: on what my family's gonna miss on of I don't

471
00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,600
Speaker 1: make it back home so like that smart problems like

472
00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:13,040
Speaker 1: that or no, man, dog, I didn't kept it so smooth.

473
00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,800
Speaker 1: I know that if Augusta is the only place I have,

474
00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:19,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not the whole city of Augusta. It's

475
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,880
Speaker 1: just those couple of people. Man. You just can't put

476
00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,320
Speaker 1: yourself in them situations. Man, why would I go down

477
00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,440
Speaker 1: here with these foods shooting back and forth? And I

478
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,399
Speaker 1: can go and enjoy this beautiful world with all this

479
00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,680
Speaker 1: piece of hand, right, I ain't just ain't gonna gold,

480
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,240
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You ain't pick up the

481
00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:33,720
Speaker 1: phone and try to call anybody like hey man, let's

482
00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,879
Speaker 1: look man, dog. Now the legend is so big with it, man,

483
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 1: it ain't nobody to even call these now. It's the

484
00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,440
Speaker 1: one down to a little bjans and babies and stuff. Man,

485
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,280
Speaker 1: they're telling me, I gotta what it's called no flies

486
00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,040
Speaker 1: on and stuff. I'm in the city. They're telling me,

487
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 1: I got a no flies one. I was like, yeah,

488
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,920
Speaker 1: it's rough out here. I'm here with a no flies one.

489
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, it's rough. So much love to Augusta, man,

490
00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:57,680
Speaker 1: you know, I take pride in it just from being

491
00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,640
Speaker 1: where I made my start from but I was from Atlanta.

492
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,639
Speaker 1: That's why I took all the pride in Georgia. Man,

493
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 1: I didn't come with the just atl atl I put

494
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 1: the attention on the state as opposed to just the city.

495
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Augusta mean a lot to me.

496
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 1: Atlanta had outcast goodie mob Master p all those you know,

497
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 1: his presence was real strong in Atlanta. But Augusta, two

498
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 1: hours down the road, they didn't have anybody. So I

499
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 1: took a lot of my Atlanta game and just applied

500
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,920
Speaker 1: it down there in Augusta and took my game back

501
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 1: up the road to Atlanta. Now I'm in the game

502
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,199
Speaker 1: with something I couldn't accomplish straight up right there from

503
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:31,639
Speaker 1: the city. You know what I mean. You did a

504
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 1: lot of that in South Carolina to South Carolina, Man,

505
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,439
Speaker 1: Columbia forty eight Man those boys and forty eight Man

506
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,479
Speaker 1: Bluff Road. Those boys my first show that I did

507
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 1: in Columbia, Man in ninety eight, ninety nine, those boys

508
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,639
Speaker 1: at my last show I did in Columbia last weekend,

509
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And that's just real dope, man.

510
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,399
Speaker 1: I just they just really became like family to me. Man,

511
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 1: across the southeast man from Georgia, South Carolina, Alabama, Tennessee, Florida.

512
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,920
Speaker 1: I do so well down south and get so much

513
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,040
Speaker 1: love down south that I really don't have to do

514
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 1: a lot of stretching. Man. I'm booked up every weekend

515
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 1: running around. See. Did you see we don't have to

516
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 1: do club concert venues like they might necessarily have to

517
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 1: do up here. Man. It's just enough clubs to go Thursday, Friday,

518
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 1: Saturday night, man, and we get it on down there.

519
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 1: Did you ever really have a double wire trailer in Columbia?

520
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:22,400
Speaker 1: Somebody told it was just an RV trailer forty eight? Yeah. Man,

521
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,119
Speaker 1: I just come out there on the RV and spread

522
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 1: it out on the road, just kick it with them

523
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 1: boys much. It was happy you already know. Now, how

524
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 1: do you feel about the Confederate flag coming down? Because

525
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 1: you still have the flag in your video giving you

526
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 1: a little John? Yeah. Man, you know what when I

527
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:37,959
Speaker 1: when I look at that man with the whole thing,

528
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 1: me being down there man and that flag. Man, we

529
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 1: see it so much, We see it so often down there, man,

530
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 1: But it had almost gotten to a point where it

531
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 1: was it was kind of a sleeping giant itself. You

532
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Well, that joint was all right,

533
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 1: it's hanging, but it really wasn't affecting us like that

534
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 1: happened to you know what I mean, well know to it?

535
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 1: Did we know what it represent? Whatever? Man, we're gonna

536
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 1: knew all these years, my whole lifetime and thing, but

537
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: hold of flying, you know what I mean? Down south.

538
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 1: But when they put all this attention on it, it

539
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 1: made people show their pride and allegiance to it even more,

540
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 1: you feel man, That's what I didn't like about it,

541
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 1: because now the person that had one flag got five

542
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 1: flags on the back of his truck. You know what

543
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 1: I mean. The NASCAR event. I went to a NASCAR

544
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: event last year, Man, American flags, a couple of Confederate flags. Okay,

545
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 1: it's cool. After they took that down that nixt NASCAR race.

546
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 1: You should have saw it, you know what I mean,

547
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,239
Speaker 1: everybody and the MoMA, the kids and everybody showing off

548
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 1: that pride. So sometimes I feel like we woke asleeping giant. Man.

549
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 1: I wish it was something that we could have just

550
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 1: kept on saying, shooting a bird that like we've been

551
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,199
Speaker 1: doing for all these years. You know what I mean,

552
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 1: what did it mean to you when you had it

553
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 1: in your videos like you and John Man it meant

554
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: to me? Or y'all better watch out, we're coming. We're

555
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 1: getting some legit money. Y'all can't keep on locking us

556
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: up and banging us up at the courthouse where this

557
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 1: thing flying to get legit and I threw it on

558
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: into the camera that it hit the ground or whatever.

559
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: When you see people now that you think that they're

560
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 1: racist when they flight, you know how you said, they

561
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 1: do it even more now like oh this, we know

562
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: what y'all think about. You know what? Man. Me, being

563
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: a historian that I am, I try to find. I

564
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 1: try to find. I try to find our whole story

565
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 1: in it. Man. A lot of people don't know that

566
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 1: a lot of black soldiers in that Carolina area, man

567
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 1: fought for the Confederacy for their freedom. You know what

568
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 1: I mean, Man, soldiers slave on't stepping them. Look the

569
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: tide chaining the war. We're losing. If the South, if

570
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 1: we win, you would be free. Come on, man, those

571
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,159
Speaker 1: guys slave, they were like man, freedom, you know what

572
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 1: I mean? It could have been one of our grandfather

573
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 1: could have been one of yours. You know, they fought

574
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 1: for the Confederacy, but it wasn't nothing about fighting for

575
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 1: the Confederacy. It was just all about freedom. So for me,

576
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: I just try to find a pride in it. Even myself.

577
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: I just say, yeah, yeah, y'all flying for my grandfather.

578
00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 1: He fought for it too. Absolutely, we were pre shoot

579
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 1: you joining us man, gangster man. I appreciate y'all. Man,

580
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 1: y'all know, we go way back gangsters and what do

581
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: you want to see? Atlanta Gogo? It's more funny because

582
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: we want to see what do you want to see

583
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: Atlanta go in the future? Oh man, dog to the

584
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: super Bowl. Make sure y'all check out. We was Homeboys,

585
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: and we was Homeboys dot Com. And we got a

586
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: part one, part two to this little independent movie I shot. Man.

587
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: I'll stay down with its yea mixtape man, Crown roy

588
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: is six Man, I brought you all the whole gift

589
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 1: package Homeboys. We was Homeboys, Man. It was just something

590
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 1: that I always wanted to do, shoot an independent movie. Man,

591
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 1: come on, Universe, and I'm putting millions of dollars in

592
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 1: my face, I might as well give it back in

593
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: a movie. So it just only makes sense, you know,

594
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,880
Speaker 1: Atlanta Man, it's the new Hollywood of the South. Man.

595
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 1: They're really shooting a lot of movies down South. Man.

596
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna really be the next transition in

597
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 1: the city. Man, come on, it's fifty million rappers. I

598
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 1: better figure out something else. Do you feel like those

599
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 1: shows in Atlanta represent like all the reality shows, how

600
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: representative of Atlanta? Do you think? Um Real House of

601
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: Atlanta Love and Hip Hop even had the Atlanta reality show? Man,

602
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not a real big fan of it. Man.

603
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: Of course they didn't step to me numerous sounds about

604
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: doing love It. I bet he did. Man. Nico is

605
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: not about to be be me up loads, man, But

606
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: what about your own show? That's what I'm more so

607
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: thinking about. Man, I'm really thinking about doing something with

608
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 1: my dad, man, Pastor Troy, and Pastor Troy just letting

609
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: me what I do and everything, how we rock out together,

610
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: because it seems like you have an interesting life. It's

611
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: very interesting, man, It's real dope. Man. I just love

612
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: being independent. Man. Come on, a lot of independent artists

613
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,159
Speaker 1: don't have this kind of reach. But would you be

614
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: willing to put everything like your kids and your family?

615
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: You know what, man, you gotta be really careful with

616
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,199
Speaker 1: your kids. Man, Look at that. You know, I heard

617
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: y'all talking, you know, a little bit earlier, but you

618
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 1: just gotta that's kind of a touchy thing that y'all

619
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: want to know about Pastor Troy, or you want to

620
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: know about Mica. Now, Pastor Troy would put out there

621
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: for this play. Y'all can have them, man, and do

622
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: whatever y'all want to, but you gotta keep something for yourself.

623
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: Yeah right, all right, Well it's Pastor Troy, It's the

624
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. Good morning,