1 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Mr garbutsch Off, tear down this wall. Either you're with 2 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: us or you were with the terrorists. If you've got 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: healthcare already, then you can keep your plan. If you 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: are satisfied women is not the President of the United States, 5 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: take it to a bank. Together, we will make America 6 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: great again. We'll never sharend. It's what you've been waiting 7 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: for all day. Buck Sexton with America. Now join the 8 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: conversation called Buck toll free at eight four four nine 9 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: hundred Buck. That's eight four four nine hundred to eight 10 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 1: to five, sharp mind, strong voice, Buck Sexton, Team Buck, 11 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Freedom Hut. Thank you so much for 12 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: being here. Eight four four nine hundred Buck, eight four four, 13 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: nine hundred to eight to five. On the phones, do 14 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: give a call. I'm sure you'll have some thoughts on 15 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: what we're gonna talk about to day. Just a bit 16 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: of a preview here we will, of course, jump right 17 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: in and just a moment to what happened in Charlottesville 18 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:15,839 Speaker 1: over the weekend. Tremendous amounts of of anger, anxiety, and 19 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: political vitriol spewed afterwards, and mayhem on the streets. Neo 20 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: Nazis marching in in Charlottesville, Virginia, a town I actually 21 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 1: know uh quite well from my from my youth. Maybe 22 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: I'll tell you that personal side note later on, but 23 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: certainly not a place I ever thought would be uh 24 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: the battle ground of what are extremist movements, a few 25 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: of them, different versions of right wing extremist movements, and 26 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: of course the anti FI group that clashed on the 27 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: street with them and led to a woman being murdered 28 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: on the streets and nineteen other people injured. You see 29 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: the video of it all. And and there is obvious 30 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: concern that all Americans share whenever you have well, violence 31 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: like this, and also groups espousing such naked and vile 32 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: racism UH, and just the political discourse now bleeding over 33 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: into well, bleeding over into blood, in this case, bleeding 34 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:28,399 Speaker 1: over to actual violence. It's it's troubling, troubling, to say 35 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: the least. And I know that by the time you're 36 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: hearing me, you've already likely gotten most of the or 37 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: or picked up on the details about what happened. You 38 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 1: had a march in Charlottesville, Virginia with Confederates and UH 39 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: or neo Confederates, Neo Nazis, white supremacists, white nationalists and 40 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: then counter protesters, including members of a group called Antifa, 41 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: and this then broke out into some street battles. There 42 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: was violence caught on because everyone now carries a video 43 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: camera and the instant any dissemination capability of a smartphone, 44 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: So you have people walking around live streaming this. And 45 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: now it's turned into a massive political back and forth, 46 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: a debate over just how much or how representative of 47 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: the right is this, this group of white nationalists that 48 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: were marching in Charlottesville, and then Trump's response to it. 49 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: I'm less interested in Trump's response than many others are 50 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: because I think that Trump at some level just doesn't 51 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: want to respond to anything the way the media demands 52 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: that he responds to it. I think that Trump doesn't 53 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: doesn't like it when he's told that he has to 54 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: he has to denounce something in a certain way. I 55 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: think that he just has a bit of a personal 56 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: revolt against that. You can think that that's because he 57 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: just hates the media so much, or there's a an 58 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: impetuous streak in him, or or I don't know. I mean, 59 00:03:58,320 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: you can you can call me and tell me what 60 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: you think about it. But it seemed like an obvious 61 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: decision under the circumstances, just to condemn the violence and 62 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: the white supremacists, which he did do later on. I 63 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: get that the statements have already been parsed a lot, 64 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: they've fin analyzed. I'll do that in a little bit, 65 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: but more to the more to the center of the 66 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: discussion right now. The reason the media is so focused 67 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: in on this, the reason the whole country is so 68 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: focused and on what happened in Charlottesville, is because they 69 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: are making the case, many people are making the case 70 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: that this is a natural progression from within the Trumpist movement. 71 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: From Trump is m that because of Donald Trump, And 72 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: this is what the media is saying. This is what 73 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: is out there now. And you can go to any 74 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: number of Democrat leaning or left his websites and read 75 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: some version of this, and it's that Donald Trump has 76 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: created the environment where this kind of hate will flourish. Now, 77 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: I think that that's not fair. Um. I think that 78 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: it also absolves a growing and much more widely tolerated 79 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: and even accepted uh group of authoritarians or fascists on 80 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: the left or anarchists, it really depends, but anti speech 81 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: radicals on the left, most notably Antifa anti fascist action. 82 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: I'll talk to you more about them in just a 83 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: moment as well, But that has been going on now 84 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: for months, and I guess I have a I have 85 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: a different focus than any others on this because you 86 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: don't need me to come here and sit in a 87 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: radio studio and tell you that racism is grotesque. You 88 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: don't need me to tell you that racism is both 89 00:05:55,520 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: a logical and moral fallacy. I've leave that you believe that. 90 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: So there's a part of me that feels like, why 91 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: is it that whenever we discussed this, I have to 92 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: first start out by doing the the requisite denunciation of 93 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: neo Confederate, neo Nazi imbeciles, right, Because if I don't, 94 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: then maybe maybe I harbor some glimmer of sympathy for 95 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: their cause or something. Right, So sure, I can't more 96 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: forcefully denounced them as racist, but I'm already I already 97 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: feel like I'm denounced them as as idiots and racist. 98 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: But I'm already feel like I'm wasting your time. Because 99 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: you know that, and I at some level think that 100 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: the President most likely also feels that way. We we 101 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: really need to hear Donald Trump say that, uh, Klansman 102 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: or Neo Confederates or white Nashalists or whatever they are, 103 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: are are losers and morons. Now, I think he should 104 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: have said it, because it is true, and I think 105 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: he feels that way. But I think he also that's 106 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: at some level resents that the media now plays the 107 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: denunciation game. Did you not? Did you denounce it fast enough? 108 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: Did you denounce it forcefully enough? You know what words 109 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: did you use in the denunciation? How specific was it right? 110 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: When really this is about and I know, I'm see, 111 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: I'm I'm already drifting into an analysis of Trump's language, 112 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: when really this is all about, is the conservative movement 113 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: now in this country are actually, let me retract, that 114 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: is the Republican Party in this country now at some 115 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: level making common cause with white nationalists. I tell you 116 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: the answer is no. But there are many people who 117 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: want to make that case. And in fact, many of 118 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: the counter protesters ANTIFA, the people who showed up at 119 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: that to oppose that rally in Charlottesville, have believed for 120 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: many months that they are fighting against a fascist, white 121 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: nationalist regime, and that has been the justification for their 122 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: violent and authoritarian actions. So this has been that we've 123 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: been heading towards this for some time. But this is 124 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: where we have to be very vigilant about what terms 125 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: we use and what we allow the dominant perception of 126 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: every day good Americans of all backgrounds, ethnicities, race, creed, 127 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: and color and color. UH. We have to be careful 128 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: about what their perception of the Republican Party is after 129 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: this because trust me, and I think you already know 130 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: this too, But this is the more interesting discussion. They 131 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: want to use this and see, this is really Trump 132 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: is m This is really what Trump is all about. 133 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: This is really what the Republican Party is all about. 134 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: Even though if you were to align these two groups up, 135 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: and that's what I am offering you, we do now. 136 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: Like I said, racists or morons, I hate them. I've actually, 137 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: I can tell you this, I've never met somebody who 138 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: at least would ever tell I've literally never met somebody 139 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: who would tell me not even that they were a 140 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: white supremacist or a white nationalist, but that that was 141 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,719 Speaker 1: okay at all, or that they had any friends like that. 142 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: I have met and spoken to UH anarchists, radical leftists, 143 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: anti fam members, black block participants, people who take it 144 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: upon themselves to destroy property, threatened violence, shutdown speech, and 145 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: they're proud, and not only that, they've got professors that 146 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:33,719 Speaker 1: backed them up. But I'm kind of getting ahead of 147 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: myself here, or I'm getting ahead of where we are 148 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: in the conversation. Uh. You don't need me to sit 149 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 1: here and denounce racism because we already know. Uh. And 150 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: it also, I think is clearly a game that the 151 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: media wants to play right now where they want to see. 152 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 1: They set this standard up for who denounces, And once 153 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: you've announced, then it's well, did you denounce it fast enough? 154 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: And where you vociferous enough in your denunciations that the 155 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: answers no, Then they can start to to go after 156 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: you a bit as they as they have with Trump. 157 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: And I'm sure there will be others as well, including 158 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: people that are that are defending Trump's response to all this. 159 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: But you see, the denunciation request is always followed by 160 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 1: the and oh, by the way, even though you've denounced it, 161 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 1: this is still representative of the Republican Party. I mean, 162 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: this is still a much bigger issue. Just denouncing it 163 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: does not separate you at all from the mass culpability 164 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: that they want to inflict upon everybody else who had 165 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: nothing to do with this. So you see, it's media 166 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: says Republicans should denounce this. Republicans should denounce this, and 167 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: most of them do, or all the ones that I've 168 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: seen have right, And maybe they didn't do it fast enough, 169 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: or that the me didn't like it as much as 170 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: they wanted to, but they denounced this, and then it's okay. 171 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: You notice how all the Republicans have to denounce this. 172 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: Maybe there's something there. Maybe it's because they feel ill 173 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: like this is more representative of them. You see, it's 174 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: like the Republicans doth protest, you know, or doth denounce 175 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: too much? I should say, because they're speaking about it, 176 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: they're tied to it. Once they have to say that 177 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 1: this isn't us. Well, maybe it is kind of them. 178 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: And this is the game I know you're saying about. 179 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 1: Come on, that's so unfair. That's what they're doing. That's 180 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: what they're doing at Trump for sure, and it is 181 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: what they want to do to the entirety of the 182 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: Republican Party right now. They want to make this about 183 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: how this is the tip of the iceberg, part of 184 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: a much larger hole. But now let's let's take that 185 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: from one I I just told you, and I can 186 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: speak from personally. I can only speak from my own 187 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: experience on this, and I've never met a white supremacist. 188 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: I've never met a white nationalist um and I have 189 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: never even met somebody who would tell me, even in confidence, 190 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: that they had any sympathy for that whatsoever. Now you 191 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: could say, well, people, people know you, Buck, they know 192 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: that you would think that that's gross, and you call 193 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: it out, and you you know, you get a said 194 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: it with somebody that would But not everybody knows, right, 195 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: you figure at some point someone would have said something. 196 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: Now that's not to say it doesn't exist, because clearly 197 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: it does exist. And I know that this is where 198 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: I already see the assaults coming from the left. All 199 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: interesting because you haven't met one. It's not a real thing. Now, 200 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that at all, But we're trying to 201 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: get a sense of the scope and scale of the problem. 202 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: We are a country of three hundred and twenty million people. 203 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: If five hundred or a thousand or I saw a 204 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: different estimists two thousand. I think that was the biggest estimate. 205 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: I saw two thousand people who are neo Nazis, white nationalists, 206 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: white supremacists. If two thousands of them exist in a 207 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: country or three d and twenty million people, and they 208 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: are denounced by every political party, they are ostracized and 209 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: hated in polite society as they as they and their 210 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: their views should be. How how much of a concern 211 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: is this really going forward? Now? I'm not saying it's 212 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: not a concern. I'm just saying what you're seeing now, 213 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 1: of course, is people say, oh, this is the real 214 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: forget about al Qaeda in the Islamic State. These are 215 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: the real This is the real terrorist threat. And I say, well, 216 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: there there have always been. I've studied this, and I 217 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: shouldn't even just say studied it. I worked on this 218 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: when I was at the NYPD. We we were looking 219 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: at white supremacist terrorists. We were looking at what are 220 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: term domestic terrorists, although that's kind of a sloppy term, 221 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: but I can also tell you that the White Supremacist 222 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: Terror Unit, and also there was an we looked at 223 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: anarchist terrorism, anything that could cross on the New York 224 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: City area radar, which means basically everything, right, because all 225 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: roads at some point lead that lead to New York 226 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: one way or another. Whether they're you know, getting their 227 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: funding from here, or they're having a rally here or 228 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: meetings here, or you know, terrorist groups all somewhere or 229 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: othery're all passing through New York somehow. I can tell 230 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 1: you that it's not that the white supremacist terrorist groups 231 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: were non existent. It's that the people that the people 232 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: that covered that as their area of responsibility, the members, 233 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: the intelligent specialists I knew who were working that issue 234 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: were working other issues too, because it was just not 235 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: a very busy account. And the counter terrorism of this 236 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: is how you think of it. You cover an issue 237 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: an area and you work those cases, or you you 238 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: look at that um slice of the of the pie 239 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: specifically and gee, hottest terrorism, very busy, white supremacist terrorism, 240 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: it's there, but it's just not very busy. There's not 241 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: a lot going on. The threat levels much lower, the 242 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: possible casualties are estimated at being much lower and have 243 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: been much lower. So this is this is now that 244 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: the first thing we have to do is put the 245 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: march into that into a context of how much do 246 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: we really have to worry about the rise of of 247 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: white supremacist terrorism or white supremacist violence of any kind 248 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: in this country and the answers we have to be 249 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: on guard against. But we were already winning this. We're 250 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: winning this ideological battle, meaning that these people are hated 251 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: and they are reviled and they are denounced across the board. 252 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: Now we'll get into another layer of this, which is, well, 253 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: what about on the left. Can we say the same 254 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: thing about Antifa? And can we look a bit at 255 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: what the ideologies of some of the counter protesters who 256 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: were there, who granted didn't kill anyone this weekend, thankfully, 257 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: but may in the future, and we need to take 258 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: a look at all the different ASTs here. All right, Well, 259 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: we'll have that in more. Racism is evil and those 260 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, 261 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: including the KKK, Neo Nazis, white supremacies, and other hate 262 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as 263 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: Americans to anyone who acted criminally in this weekend's racist violence, 264 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: you will be held fully accountable. Justice will be delivered. 265 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: As I said on Saturday, we condemn in the strongest 266 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: possible terms, this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence. 267 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: It has no place in America, and as I have 268 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: said many times before, No matter the color of our skin, 269 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: we all live under the same laws, we all salute 270 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: the same great flag, and we are all made by 271 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: the same Almighty God. We must love each other, show 272 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: affection for each other, and unite together in condemnation of hatred, bigotry, 273 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: and violence. We must rediscover the bonds of love and 274 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: loyalty that bring us together as Americans. We are a 275 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: nation founded on the truth that all of us are 276 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 1: created equal. We are equal in the eyes of our creator. 277 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: We are equal under the law, and we are equal 278 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: under our constitution. Those who spread violence in the name 279 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 1: of bigotry strike at the very core of America. Two 280 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: days ago, a young American woman, Heather Hair, was tragically killed. 281 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: Her death fills us with grief, and we send her 282 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: family our thoughts, our prayers, and our love. We also 283 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: mourn the two Virginia State troopers who died in service 284 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: to their community, their commonwealth, and their country. Troopers j 285 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: Collin and Birke Bates exemplify the very best of America, 286 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: and our hearts go out to their families, their friends, 287 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: and every member of American law enforcement. I don't see 288 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 1: how the President could have made a more clear statement. 289 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: He singles out groups, he says denouncing the strongest possible terms, 290 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: and then he express his sympathy and condolences for the 291 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: family of the woman who was killed. Uh. The driver 292 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: of the vehicle is already facing second degree murder charges. 293 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: He may be facing hate crime charges and and trump 294 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 1: Is also was also speaking about the officers who died 295 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: in a helicopter crash trying to provide safety for the 296 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: protesters during this whole situation. Um, it's as it's as 297 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: good a statement is I think anyone could ask, were 298 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: now that was the second statement. I understand that, And 299 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: I'll play you the first statement, which got everyone uh 300 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 1: so agitated over the weekend. I'll do that after the 301 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: break and talk to you about what I think, well, 302 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: what I believe to be the thinking behind it. But 303 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: I should just note right now that the denunciation that 304 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 1: I just played for you, and I really wanted to 305 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: give a lot of it to you on air here 306 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: so you could really hear it, that's not it's not 307 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: enough for the press. They don't care. They act like 308 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: if he denounced it strongly enough, there would be some 309 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: credibility or some credit, some good faith that they would 310 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: give this administration and this president, but that's not true. 311 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: It's just it's just a game that they play in 312 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: the short term, denounce it and denounced it, and then 313 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: he finally does. He denounces it as strong as humanly possible. 314 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: And when they say, well, sure he denounced it, but 315 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: he's still kind of responsible for it. So let's talk 316 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 1: about that now. That's that's the way they do it 317 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: in the media. We'll talk about that. He's back with 318 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 1: you now, because when it comes to the fight for truth, 319 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: the fuck never stops. Let sleep. Following the terrible events 320 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: unfolding in Charlottesville, Virginia, we condemn in the strongest possible terms, 321 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,959 Speaker 1: this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence on many sides. 322 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: On many sides. It's been going on for a long 323 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: time in our country. Not Donald Trump, not Barack Obama. 324 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: It no place in America. What is vital now is 325 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: a swift restoration of law and order and the protection 326 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: of innocent lives. So that was the first statement and 327 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 1: what got everyone so upset at the administration and look 328 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: at it, clearly, it was enough that the administration had 329 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 1: to come out and give that that the President had 330 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: to come out and give a separate second address on 331 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 1: this issue today. UM, And I am happy in a 332 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 1: sense that that that they did that and then immediately 333 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: moved on to this executive executive memorandum or executive or 334 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: whatever it was, this executive statement on China intellectual property. 335 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: But and we'll we'll get to that in in a 336 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: few minutes too. That'll be coming up later on in 337 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: the show. UM. But a lot of focus, of course, 338 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: on what happened with Trump and this whole UH first response. 339 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 1: The problem is the is the on many sides, that's 340 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: what god ever one really upset here. And now there 341 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: are a few levels of that I want to approach 342 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: on this. First of all, why not just get it 343 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 1: right the first time? This is so obvious that any 344 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: speech writer, Now did Trump I don't know, was it 345 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: in the prompter or did he go off the cuff here? Um, 346 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: But saying on many sides, there's just no no reason 347 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: to add that in when you know that that's going 348 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: to UH in inflame the debate even more, the coverage 349 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: of this even more, because it is it is viewed 350 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: as white supremacists gathering together who are representative of something 351 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: that is bigger than just a group of a group 352 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 1: of you know, violent idiots in one city and one 353 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: part of the country. Um. But and it has ties 354 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: the administration in some ideological way, not direct ties, but 355 00:21:55,080 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 1: there's some connective tissue between this movement in Charlotte, Charlottesville 356 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: and the White House. So you know that they're going 357 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: to make that the story here. So why not just 358 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: cut that off as quickly as possible and just do 359 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: the right thing, which is to get Look, some of 360 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: the words he used condemned the strongest possible terms. I mean, 361 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: that's that they were close to getting it entirely right, 362 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: but that they have to come out and make a 363 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 1: second a second go at. It seems to be indication 364 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: that okay, they wanted to to clarify. But on this 365 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: notion of the many sides here, here's the problem. I 366 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,479 Speaker 1: don't think there is any group in the country that 367 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: is more universally hated then KKK neo Nazi, white nationalist 368 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: types with the accept with it possibility. Well, with the 369 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: exceptions of outright criminals, right in some cases people who 370 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: are you know, pedophiles, rapist, murderers, but in terms of 371 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: people just were their beliefs. I think the most hated 372 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: ideological subset of our society would be the KKK white supremacist, 373 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: neo nazi times um. I think that is a pretty 374 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 1: clear case you can make. And so whenever they're involved, 375 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: their involvement in any issue immediately elevates and uh elevates 376 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: the issue the national consciousness and also aggravates racial tensions, 377 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: racial divide, political divide along with it, of course, and 378 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: the administration should be cognizant of that. They also should 379 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: know that there are any opening. And I know, I 380 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: think some of you would probably say to me that buck, 381 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: they're they're going after something smaller than making something bigger 382 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: out of it. Maybe you'd said that, maybe not, Maybe 383 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: you think the Trump's first statement was but why even 384 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: give the why even give the small opening? You know, 385 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: this is the big leagues of the president United States. 386 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: You have people who are helping you, who are writing speeches, 387 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: and you have to prepare for this moment, and there 388 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: should be no no opening, no opportunity to impugne the 389 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: president's denunciation of what happened in Charlottesville here that he 390 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: should not have presented. So in that sense, it's a 391 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: misstep it's an error because there should have been no 392 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: opportunity whatsoever. And by the way, I don't even think 393 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: that necessarily would have prevented people from saying that Trump 394 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: was If he had given the perfect speech, there would 395 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: be people who say, well, that's just a speech. Trump's 396 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: a liar. He actually, you know, he actually supports some 397 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: of the tenants of white nationalism. I mean that that's 398 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna have that no matter what. Why not be 399 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 1: a little bit more um clear and precise in your 400 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: usage of language to forestall that from from happening here 401 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: or prevent that from from a carring. So that's that's 402 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: a part of this as well. So why the mistake 403 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: because I do think that look, it was a mistakes 404 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: that had to redo it, So why and I should 405 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: not that here the off the cuff sometimes some would 406 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 1: call it extemporaneous, others would call it sloppy. Communications strategy 407 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: of this president and of the people around him has 408 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: been written about countless times as well. Established we all know, 409 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: uh you know last week it was Trump's gonna because 410 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: Trump talked about Kim Jong UN's rhetoric we were about 411 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: to go to nuclear war, right, So they're always saying 412 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: that his loose rhetoric is is a problem. And in 413 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: the case of North Korea, the loose rhetoric became the 414 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 1: story with Kim jongon and the Trump versus and Trump 415 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: versus Kim Jong n because it was well, c Trump is, 416 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: he's reckless with his words, and that could drive us 417 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: to nuclear war. So they liked running with the line 418 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: of the loose talk you know, irresponsible verbiage. But now 419 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 1: you'll see that there's a there's a shift that happens 420 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: right all of a sudden. No, No No, it's not that 421 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: Trump does It's not that Trump has loose talker or 422 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: his his messaging is imprecise and soft. Cup. No, here 423 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: there's a and again, I'm just giving you what the 424 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: opposition narrative here is about Trump and the administration and 425 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: with it because the Republican Party's fortunes, for better or 426 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: for worse, everybody are tied to this administration right now. Uh, 427 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: they're not giving they're they're not making that the story. 428 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: It's not Trump should have been more precise in his language. 429 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 1: It's oh no, he said what he meant here, and 430 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 1: he's just hiding some sympathy for it. You see, if 431 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: they had applied the same standard with North Korea would 432 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: be oh, no, he really does just kind of want 433 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: to go to nuclear war with North Korea, like he 434 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: just wants the new North Korea, which is crazy. He 435 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 1: clearly doesn't, but they wanted to make it sound like 436 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: he's he could accidentally draw us into a conflict because 437 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: of the way he talks about things. Now it's oh, well, 438 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: he may accidentally, or rather it's not that he accidentally 439 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: didn't give a good statement, it's that he actually secretly 440 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: harbors some sympathy for these people. You see that the 441 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: standard changes the way the media talks about this. The 442 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: standard changes, um and you had the Charlotte the mayor 443 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: of Charlottesville. I should know here now now we're gonna 444 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 1: get into a bit of how this was framed right 445 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 1: away by people trying to score political points as not 446 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: just the President being uh inept in his initial denunciation 447 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: of it, but that the President is somehow I know, 448 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: brace yourself, is the cause of this. He created the 449 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: environment for this, which this was gonna happen no matter 450 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: what you got. You got white supremacists fighting the people 451 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: in the street. One of them runs somebody over or 452 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: runs a bunch of people over and kills a person 453 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: and there this is gonna be about Trump, and Trump 454 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: is no matter what. So people are of course jumping 455 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: on the issue right away and trying to score as 456 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: many political points as they can, including the mayor of Charlottesville. 457 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: Well look at the campaign he ran. I mean, look 458 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: look at the intentional courting both on the one hand 459 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: of all these whites of premisis white nationalist group like that, 460 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: anti Semitic groups. And then look on the other hand, 461 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: the repeated failure to step up, condemned, announce silence, you know, 462 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: put to bed all those different efforts, just like we 463 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: saw yesterda And this is not hard. There's you know, 464 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: there's two words that need to be set over and 465 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 1: over again, domestic terrorism and white supremacy. That is exactly 466 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: we saw on display this weekend. And we just aren't 467 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: seeing leadership from the White House now because you had 468 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: I should know that if you did not have the 469 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: if you did not have the one individual who is 470 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: now going to stand trial for murder running his car 471 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: into all those protesters in the video of it, the 472 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: storyline here would be would be different. You would still 473 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: have vile, hated, white supremacist group marching shouting Nazi I 474 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: mean they were shouting Nazi slogans. I mean, these guys 475 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: were just the worst, Okay, but they in part at 476 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: least squaring off against Antifa. Now I know, they were 477 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: also just counter protesters there who were just there to 478 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: say that they hate Nazis, and they're right, right, Nazis 479 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: are bad, so they're right in that. But there were 480 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: some anti fi elements there who were armed and who 481 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: were engaging in street battles. So it would be a 482 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: very different storyline had you not had the individual who 483 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: ran his car into the crowd, killed someone, wounded a 484 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: bunch of others. Uh, it would still really, it would 485 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: still be these white supremacist grotesques, but there would also 486 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: probably be a little bit more room to even talk 487 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: about the fact that since when did counter protest movements 488 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: include people that show up with with batons and and 489 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: spray paint cans and masks, And that's a count that's 490 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: a counter protest movement that sounds like something else, and 491 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: that's something else we've seen in other places across the country. 492 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: But that's now completely that whole part of this storyline 493 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: is completely overwhelmed by the white supremacists, terrorist act, kills people. 494 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: That's whatever one's focused on. UM. So, I do want 495 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: to take your calls on this eight four buck. We've 496 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: got a whole bunch of lines lit. We will take 497 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: them and get into much more, including we'll move on 498 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: to Trump's talking about China. I think this is one 499 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: of the least covered or under covered in terms amount 500 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: of time on it issues of our time, which is 501 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: the amount of intellectual property theft and all kinds of 502 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: information theft that's gone on with China. I think it's 503 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: really at the civilizational level meeting that this is going 504 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: to be. We're going to be feeling the effects of this, 505 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: and China will be feeling the benefits of this in 506 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: decades to come, for four decades to come, maybe even more. 507 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,959 Speaker 1: Here with you in the freedom hunt. We've got Oh well, 508 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: we're about to go to calls. But first you may 509 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: have seen some of the photos over the weekend of 510 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: all these uh white nationalists arching and Charlottesville carrying tiki torches, 511 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: which led to a whole lot of um, a whole 512 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: lot of people who were making jokes about you know 513 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: how they look like, you know this was like the 514 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: Great racist frat party or something, and people were saying, 515 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: you know, why are they holding tiki torches? Well, Tiki 516 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: Tiki the brand actually release a statement. They said they're 517 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: not associated in any way with the events. They do 518 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: not support their message or the use of products in 519 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: any way. Our products are designed to enhance backyard gatherings 520 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: or to help family and friends connect with each other. Yeah, 521 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: I mean, you know that's but that shows you how 522 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: like people are terrified, even when it's so clear they 523 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: had nothing to do with this. I mean, the tiki 524 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: company has to release a statement saying, look, we're not 525 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: like the we're not the official sponsor of white supremacist 526 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: we have nothing to do with this, Okay. So yeah, 527 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: I mean, these white supremacists in Charlotteesville, they're they're nationally 528 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: uh you know there their popularity level is is close 529 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: to like the plague and child molesters. I mean, these 530 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: are not people who how have support. These are not 531 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: people who are about to you know, take over and 532 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: take over the country. But anyway, um, let's get into 533 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: some calls here. We have uh Phil in New Hampshire, 534 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: Good to have you. Sure, what's up? Whoa okay, Buck, 535 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: thank you very much for taking my call. I I 536 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: just barely got off the phone with your screener, so 537 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: I was a little shocked, but thank you for the show. 538 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: And I got to mention real quick first that I've 539 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: used here for a couple of years as like a 540 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: a calming start to my day, which starts very very 541 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: early and usually ends very late. And uh, I use 542 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: you and your words to to filter things down and go, okay, 543 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: here's clearly where we're at. This is, you know, let's 544 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: let's get rid of some of the crap, and then 545 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: I do dive into cue it. By the time he 546 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: comes on, I'm ready to hear it. And I've moved 547 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: to Doc Thompson because those guys are too funny and 548 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: it's like I need humor before I hit Gallagher. What 549 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: I do for work allows me to listen to say. 550 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: You gotta cover a lot of radio territory, my friend. Well, 551 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: what's in your mind with regard? Thank you? First of all, 552 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: what's on your mind with the Guard of Charlottesville, the 553 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: trying and I couldn't hear what was going on while 554 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: I was on hold, but the Charlotte'esville thing, I you know, 555 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: I just don't even know if I need a tap 556 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: two on my forehead that says I don't like the KKK. 557 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: You know, I in a tattoo on the back of 558 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: my shoulder that says I go, I want to go 559 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: kill him if I could. Uh, you know, clearly not true, 560 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: but that you know, I got to stand in with 561 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: with Trump disavowing all the violence, all the hatred. Some 562 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: of those groups that were there are actually kind of 563 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:42,959 Speaker 1: sponsored by organized by funded by the left. And you know, 564 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: you and I are both used to disavowing evil things 565 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: every time we wake up. The left really never does 566 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: pop up and say, hey, you know, we're not a 567 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: part of anti file, although you know, maybe you maybe 568 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: you are the uh the Black Panthers. I want to 569 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: stay way away from last I knew they are. You know, 570 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: they had a very legitimate starkness world and a reason 571 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: for being and uh, you know, I don't know that 572 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 1: their name getting tossed in there is that good. I 573 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 1: think they've actually done so well. I mean I can 574 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,280 Speaker 1: say that the the ideology of antifa is that, remember 575 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: they're anti fascists. Why are they anti fascists? Because they 576 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: believe the Trump administration is part of a rising tide 577 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: of fascism in this country. A lot of people who 578 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: are I know, I mean, it's it's ridiculous. But a 579 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: lot of people who aren't antifa believe that. Now, look 580 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: at what happened in Look at this group in Charlottesville, 581 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 1: these with these with this white supremacist gathering, right, this 582 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: white supremacist rally. Um, you don't you don't have people 583 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,760 Speaker 1: who are tenured professors, You don't have people with big 584 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: media platforms and and and people who are who are 585 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: prominent and respected and decide who are like, yeah, you know, 586 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,879 Speaker 1: I wouldn't do what they do, meaning I wouldn't march 587 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: with the tiki torches and do the sig hile and 588 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: all that stuff. But I but I I agree with them. 589 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,399 Speaker 1: You do have that on the left when it comes 590 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: to like Trump is a fascist and we need to 591 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,919 Speaker 1: take violent action to stop him. That's widespread. So and 592 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 1: I should note that while people will argue me on this, 593 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 1: you see that they want to say that on the 594 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: what I'm saying is false, right that on the right, 595 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: it's actually why it spread on the left, it's not. 596 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: I mean, this is the center of the debate right now. 597 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 1: And I mean, I think it's by the way, I 598 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: don't think it's as wide spread on the left as 599 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: as some on the right I want to believe it is. 600 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 1: I mean, there are a lot of there are a 601 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 1: lot of people out there vote Democrat, you know, because 602 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 1: they're they believe in big government and their pro choice 603 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 1: and they're not Antifa, right. I mean, that's I'm not 604 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: saying that you will get a lot of people though, 605 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 1: who will say the whatever the converse or that on 606 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: the right, you have a much more uh a much 607 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: more deep attachment to this white nationalist stuff than anybody 608 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: on the right wants to believe. And I just think 609 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 1: that that's not that's not just unfair, it's it's dangerous 610 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: for that to get out there. I agree, and I'll 611 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: tell you not to not to butt in. But I 612 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: know you've got limited time, and just a couple of 613 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: things that you touched on. One is, you know, a 614 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 1: lot of us kicked back and had to watch and 615 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: listen to somebody throw a flag down in front of 616 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: a vet and burn it and walk away from it 617 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: and the left not disavow it. And it was at 618 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: a leftist rally, and we've had to watch people march 619 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: down the street and request that cops are killed, and 620 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:31,839 Speaker 1: there has been no formal violence against that that has 621 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 1: been allowed. And so yeah, no, like I actually have 622 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: to run into a break. But I appreciate, I appreciate 623 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: you calling in, But on his point about about Black 624 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: Lives Matter and the violence from some people, again at 625 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: a very small minority over all of those we've marched 626 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 1: in Black Lives Matter protests, but I've heard the rhetoric 627 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,760 Speaker 1: and it's it is bad at some of those rallies. 628 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,359 Speaker 1: And you will notice though that this is also where 629 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 1: the media play his favorites, and the bias of the 630 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: media becomes so very clear. You have people who are 631 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,280 Speaker 1: again at all the major networks, the the opinion makers 632 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: such as they are. When there's a mass killing of 633 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 1: police officers, uh, it's not indicative of Black Lives Matter, 634 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: even if the guy who did it says he's a 635 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: member Black Lives Matter. When there's a Bernie Sanders supporter 636 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: who tries a mass assassination of members of Congress, it's 637 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 1: not indicative of Bernie Sanders supporters in love. But when 638 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: there's a group of of morons and one of them 639 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 1: a group of idiot white supremacists and one of them 640 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 1: run somebody over the car. Oh, it's like Trump's fault 641 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 1: right away. I'm picking up some of the ominous reporting 642 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 1: about North Korea. I won't let you know. I'm still 643 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: watching that issue closely. I know that there are uh 644 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 1: some some reports out there that North Korea is moving 645 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 1: some things around, and there's some cause for concern about 646 00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,399 Speaker 1: a possible well, we don't really know what, just North 647 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: Korea doing something really uh provocative or maybe even really stupid. 648 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 1: But I'm I'm watching that closely, and if I have 649 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 1: more for you, I'll certainly break in on on the 650 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: show with it will probably up hitch you in North 651 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: Korea tomorrow. I want to talk to you in some 652 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: detail about Venezuela tomorrow as well. Um, so many uh 653 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,280 Speaker 1: not just lessons to be learned from an economic perspective, 654 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 1: but also the security risks and the narco trafficking going 655 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 1: on out of two to the United States, by the way, 656 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 1: and the connections to Mexican cartels with with elements in 657 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 1: every major US city, and the connections to Venezuela. It's 658 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 1: really scary stuff. As well as Venezuela as Venezuela as 659 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:50,240 Speaker 1: pardon me, venezuel As connectivity to Iran, to Syria, to Cuba, Russia, 660 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: name of country that we're concerned about, and Venezuela and 661 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: the regime, the government Maduro, his vice president. Uh, this 662 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: will be I'm gonna tell you some stuff tomorrow about 663 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: Venezuela that you're gonna be like, what that is crazy? 664 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: So that's coming up later on. Uh some more, just 665 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 1: a few more things on this. Uh. This march, there 666 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: was a Solidarity against Hate march in Seattle. People were 667 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 1: I'm seeing all these photos now online too. I dug 668 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 1: into it a little more. In the break, people are 669 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: burning American flags, people are attacking police, They are writing 670 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: profanity everywhere this. Where are the demands from Democrat politicians 671 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 1: to condemn this? This happens routinely. Now, this happens in Seattle, 672 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 1: that happens in Portland, it happens. I've seen black block 673 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 1: here in New York City with my own eyes, So 674 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 1: I mean it happens all over the place. Where are 675 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: the denunciations of this. Um No, they'll just say, oh, 676 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,479 Speaker 1: they have a First Amendment right. And speaking of First 677 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,800 Speaker 1: Amendment rights, which is a true statement, but it's also 678 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 1: it's often a dodge. What do you think about this? Well, 679 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 1: they have a First Amendment right to say it, okay, 680 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 1: But what do you think about it? Politician? You have 681 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 1: thoughts about everything. You're a politician. What do you think 682 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: about this? Oh, they have the First Amendment rights democrats 683 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 1: get and the media lets them get away with that. 684 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 1: The Democrats get away with that all the time. But 685 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 1: speaking for the First Amendment, I see the Texas A 686 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: and M has canceled this from the Houston Chronicle, canceled 687 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:24,280 Speaker 1: a White Lives Matter event that was scheduled for September eleven. 688 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 1: This is this is now going to be a recurring theme. 689 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:34,359 Speaker 1: I think where you see groups, there will there will 690 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: be viewpoint discrimination taken, including at public facilities, public universities, 691 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,760 Speaker 1: public areas, maybe even of cities. They're gonna say, sorry, no, 692 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,439 Speaker 1: no neo Nazis here. They've forgotten that whole Supreme Court 693 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 1: case with the neo Nazis and Skokie, Illinois. Right. They 694 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 1: they're they're gonna abandon this because they don't want violence. 695 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,320 Speaker 1: But they're also going to be abandoning in the process, 696 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: the principle of of free speech, which as much as 697 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 1: it may pain many of us, and as much as 698 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:07,880 Speaker 1: it is discouraging as a society that these people exist 699 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,359 Speaker 1: and that these viewpoints exist. You either believe in free 700 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 1: speech or you don't. You believe that people have the 701 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:18,800 Speaker 1: right to espouse hateful views, or you do not. Um. 702 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 1: And once you start to see there, there's so many 703 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:26,879 Speaker 1: negative effects and so many corollaries to this that I 704 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:31,719 Speaker 1: find disconcerting. Once you see White Lives Matter movements or 705 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 1: whatever they're called, uh banned from the public square in 706 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 1: place after place, you will also see a surge in 707 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,399 Speaker 1: people who say, you know, maybe there's something to this, 708 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 1: Maybe you know, maybe I am breaking through to some 709 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 1: truth that's being hidden from me. It turns it into 710 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 1: a forbidden fruit situation, when really we should let these 711 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 1: imbeciles expose themselves for all to see. We've got a 712 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:58,279 Speaker 1: lot more. Will be right back. Oh wait, sorry that 713 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,840 Speaker 1: we're running a break there. That all happened sometimes in 714 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,360 Speaker 1: the live radio I was like, wait, it just happened. Um, 715 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 1: I did say. We talked about China, Like I I 716 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,399 Speaker 1: can speak to you about this issue the the whole show, 717 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 1: and I won't because I know there are other topics 718 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 1: and like I said, next hour, we have a couple 719 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 1: of guests joining next hour, Uh Britta McHenry, formerly of ESPN, 720 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 1: away in on how she thought there was a Blue 721 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: Lives Matter, a positive Blue Lives Matter story that came 722 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 1: out of the violence in Charlottesville. That's worth telling. Rich 723 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,360 Speaker 1: Lower will join with his point of view. National Review 724 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: was really taking the Trump well, taking Donald Trump himself 725 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 1: the task over his response to this. So we'll hear 726 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 1: their their p o V, their point of view on this, 727 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:40,880 Speaker 1: and then I'll talk to you a a bit about the 728 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,360 Speaker 1: Google firing, some more recent thoughts on it, and also 729 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 1: to mellow things out. First at the very end to 730 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 1: I'll tell you about me sharing some wisdom with the 731 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 1: younger generation this weekend over drinks. I've got J in 732 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,399 Speaker 1: New York on the line. Hey J. What's going on? Buck? 733 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 1: How you doing show time? Many So what you're taking 734 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 1: my call? Shields high? Thank you for calling in. Yeah, man, So, 735 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,879 Speaker 1: I just wanted to talk about how it seems so 736 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,840 Speaker 1: coincidental that the Democrats had their biggest loss in what 737 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 1: the last hundred fifty years or so, and all of 738 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:19,400 Speaker 1: this kind of backlash and all of this um up 739 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 1: evil happens to be happening in the last you know, 740 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,479 Speaker 1: six or seven months, and it just seems like there's 741 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 1: a lot more at play behind the surface, whether it's 742 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 1: the activist groups um like Black Lives Matter, or whether 743 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 1: it's anti fudges kind of come into the surface and 744 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 1: creating all of this tension. And to me, it just 745 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,360 Speaker 1: seems like it's a lot more to do with stuff 746 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 1: that we don't know about UM that's kind of behind 747 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 1: the mainstream media that maybe isn't quite at the service. 748 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 1: And I'd love to hear your jay, I would love 749 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 1: to respond, but I feel like you're you're moving around 750 00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,080 Speaker 1: the thesis instead of of running right into it. So 751 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,280 Speaker 1: tell me, what what are you when you say things 752 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,280 Speaker 1: happening behind the scenes. I mean, you're giving me almost 753 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 1: atmospherics about the political situation. But what what do you 754 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 1: think is behind the scene or what do you think 755 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,840 Speaker 1: we're missing? So I think there's I mean, obviously people 756 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 1: throw around the terms like deep state quite a bit um, 757 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,879 Speaker 1: but it does seem like there are forces in play 758 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,360 Speaker 1: who stands a profit off of chaos in the United 759 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:29,640 Speaker 1: States and who see a guy like Trump and they say, 760 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:33,839 Speaker 1: if this keeps happening a guy like this who's so 761 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 1: anti establishments, then we're gonna lose our jobs and it's 762 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 1: gonna be just a totally different experience than what we've 763 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 1: seen in the past. So I guess it's just a 764 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 1: lot of um okay um activist groups behind the surface. 765 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:52,800 Speaker 1: That that's what I'm saying, you know. So, yeah, the 766 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 1: activist groups are doing the bidding of of others who 767 00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,719 Speaker 1: are afraid that they will lose is out because of 768 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 1: Trump is in some way. I mean, I think I 769 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 1: think what you're what you're getting at, or or at 770 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 1: least what it makes me think of. Maybe that's a 771 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,320 Speaker 1: better way to put it is that Trump is m 772 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:16,319 Speaker 1: is in many ways, ah, a political revolution against a 773 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:22,319 Speaker 1: ruling class of elites, of of Democrat leftist elites, and 774 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 1: that includes media academia, a lot, although not all, but 775 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:33,320 Speaker 1: a lot of major financial institutions, big law firms. Trump 776 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 1: is m is a revolt against not just those elites, 777 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 1: but also those who are dependent on those elites and 778 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 1: who uh subscribe to ideologies that are propagated by those elites. 779 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 1: So you have wealthy uh coastal blue state UH elitists, 780 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 1: if not elites who also have the identity politics that 781 00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 1: they are are sharing with others who are dependent on 782 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 1: government or who view oppression by government or others as 783 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,400 Speaker 1: the result of their ills. Trump is um is A 784 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 1: is a big counter counter force, counter reaction, CounterPunch to 785 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,800 Speaker 1: all of that. And so with that you have people 786 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:21,160 Speaker 1: in the media, in political circles, in financial circles who 787 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:25,719 Speaker 1: aren't just uh fearful, I think of their position right, 788 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 1: of their actual privilege being taken away from them in 789 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,399 Speaker 1: some way as a result of Trump is and whether 790 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,280 Speaker 1: that's true or not, I mean, fear is not always 791 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 1: based in the likeliest of situations. But I think even 792 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,799 Speaker 1: beyond that, they don't like to think that, they don't 793 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,360 Speaker 1: like to believe that it's possible that if Trump is 794 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 1: Um triumphs, it may in some way undermine how they 795 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 1: got their meaning. You know, if you are someone who's 796 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,280 Speaker 1: at the top of I mean, I can speak most 797 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 1: specifically the media game. If you're a big j journalist 798 00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:00,360 Speaker 1: at CBS, and finally you've got somebody who's saying, you 799 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,239 Speaker 1: know what, you guys are actually political hacks and you've 800 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 1: been riding on the coattails of previous generations of better 801 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,239 Speaker 1: journalists to get to this point and really you're lying 802 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 1: to the American people and you've been exposed for what 803 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 1: you are. Uh, you don't want that guy to win, 804 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You don't want that guy's 805 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,400 Speaker 1: belief system to win out because it's a repudiation of 806 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 1: how you got to that place. It's not even just 807 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,759 Speaker 1: that you disagree with them, it's you aren't who you 808 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,799 Speaker 1: think you are is Do you see what I'm saying, Jay? 809 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 1: And I'm trying to go a few levels deep on this, 810 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 1: but that's exactly the point I was trying to get. 811 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 1: All Right, well, look well look at that. I'll take 812 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,359 Speaker 1: you all right, Jay from New York Shield tie Man, 813 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,800 Speaker 1: thank you for thank you for calling in. See I managed, 814 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,920 Speaker 1: We managed, Jay and I together managed to get right 815 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 1: to the heart of the matter speaking about journalists who 816 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 1: don't want their positions to be uh in any way threatened, 817 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 1: and how they got there and all the rest of it. 818 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:56,760 Speaker 1: You had a costa at the Trump press conference today 819 00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 1: on the way out. Here is what CNN's chief political 820 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,120 Speaker 1: will correspondent, who was also the one from like, do 821 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,759 Speaker 1: you know what the poem says on the statue of liberty, Sir, 822 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,080 Speaker 1: do you know what that poem says? Stands a one 823 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 1: line three rhyme to Uh, here's what he said about 824 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,759 Speaker 1: or here's what he said to the President United States 825 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 1: as he's leaving a press conferences. Why you did knock 826 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 1: him down? Those eight trew spies and anguenda they them 827 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 1: they have Indian next? And why are we not having 828 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,400 Speaker 1: a press conference? He said on flying without conference? We 829 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,839 Speaker 1: had a press We just had a fresh We asked 830 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,600 Speaker 1: you some more questions again at all, you know I 831 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:40,560 Speaker 1: like reel times. Oh, we didn't get the part of 832 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:44,880 Speaker 1: the end where Acosta says, don't you think you've okay? Sorry, 833 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,279 Speaker 1: just so you know, this was the part I was 834 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 1: referred to. Right after Trump says you're fake news. As 835 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,239 Speaker 1: he's leaving, Acosta yells out, don't you think you've done 836 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 1: your Don't you think you've spread more than your fair 837 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 1: share of fake news? Uh? To the president of the 838 00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,640 Speaker 1: way out which I thought was, this is the magic 839 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 1: of of Twitter, if such a thing can be said, 840 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:08,880 Speaker 1: because it is a magnifying glass into the political equivalent 841 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 1: of that rim of of or that ring of filth 842 00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,560 Speaker 1: around the base of your toilet. That's what that's what 843 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:20,560 Speaker 1: Twitter does. It shows you just the most uh, slimy, 844 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:25,040 Speaker 1: disgusting and horrific parts of discourse on a regular basis, unfortunately. 845 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,359 Speaker 1: But it also has its usages or its uses. And 846 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,880 Speaker 1: one of the great things about Twitter is and they 847 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 1: don't really understand this the journalist class, is that they 848 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,959 Speaker 1: seem to think that we don't remember we being the reader. 849 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,200 Speaker 1: I'm much timeout me, I'm talking about you everyone else, right, 850 00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,960 Speaker 1: that that we can't see the biases that are on 851 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,440 Speaker 1: display and remember them, and that that doesn't affect our 852 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:54,000 Speaker 1: perception of what their next report is. They seem to 853 00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 1: be under the impression, whether it's Twitter, I mean, Jim Acosta, 854 00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,319 Speaker 1: he's all in, he's he's he's hashtag resistance seeing it, 855 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,879 Speaker 1: He's hashtag resistance, right. His job is to undermine and 856 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,319 Speaker 1: destroy this presidency. Fine, I actually am kind of mean. 857 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,880 Speaker 1: You know, I don't approve of how he's doing it, 858 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,839 Speaker 1: but at least it's out there, at least we all know. 859 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 1: But with some of these people, you know, the New 860 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,320 Speaker 1: York Times, you'll get Glen Thrush and Maggie Haberman. You know, 861 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,279 Speaker 1: they're doing all this reporting about the White House, and 862 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,600 Speaker 1: you know, they're they're right there with the Democracy Dies 863 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,840 Speaker 1: in Darkness crowd of the Washington Post, right there, the 864 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,480 Speaker 1: people they're doing the real journalism, but they'll let some 865 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,799 Speaker 1: tweet fly that's just you know, Trump is is a 866 00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 1: moron and I hate him. I mean that that's not 867 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 1: what they say, but it's they might as well. And 868 00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 1: then an hour later or a day later, they wanted 869 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,440 Speaker 1: to some report on well, this is what's really going 870 00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,040 Speaker 1: on in the White House, and we're just reporting on 871 00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,320 Speaker 1: what's happening. It's like, well, you can't have it both ways. 872 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:46,920 Speaker 1: And so we see them now in a way that 873 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,760 Speaker 1: they weren't exposed before because it doesn't there's no filter, 874 00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 1: doesn't go through editors. So we know who these people 875 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:53,920 Speaker 1: are because they're sharing with us all the time who 876 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,920 Speaker 1: they are, and with with Trump. I think that's a 877 00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,840 Speaker 1: very or in the Trump era, that's that's been a 878 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:06,719 Speaker 1: particularly potent phenomenon because we know they're exposed, and you know, 879 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,759 Speaker 1: there's there's my approach to sharing information and to I 880 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:16,359 Speaker 1: guess what would be journalism or or punditry, polemics being 881 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,319 Speaker 1: a polemicist, which is just how people what you think 882 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,319 Speaker 1: and you know, be accurate on the facts, but tell 883 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,279 Speaker 1: them where you're coming from and they can make their 884 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,720 Speaker 1: own distinctions and decisions. What the New York Times, Washington 885 00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,680 Speaker 1: Post these others do is no, No, we're still journalists. 886 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,400 Speaker 1: We we don't. We don't have a political instagram one 887 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,520 Speaker 1: or the other, which is now just outright laughable. I mean, 888 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,680 Speaker 1: it's just nonsense. And and Acosta representing CNA is doing 889 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:43,840 Speaker 1: the same thing, doing the same thing. Uh So I 890 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,279 Speaker 1: want to Yes, I wanted to get into China. I 891 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,160 Speaker 1: wanted to get it. Sounds like I want to go there, 892 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? I want to get to 893 00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:54,520 Speaker 1: the issue of China. And um, I was thinking maybe 894 00:51:54,520 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 1: about doing more analysis of uh the wather, whether it's 895 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,279 Speaker 1: accurate to really call this an act of terrorism or 896 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,919 Speaker 1: what the other factors are at play that I would 897 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:07,799 Speaker 1: want to know more about before we could say it's 898 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,880 Speaker 1: it's terrorism. Calling it a hate crime is also an 899 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,680 Speaker 1: interesting What happened in charltts well I hate crime is 900 00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:18,000 Speaker 1: also an interesting debate because the target who was or 901 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,759 Speaker 1: the woman who was killed at least was a was 902 00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:23,080 Speaker 1: a white female. So what's the hate crimes are very 903 00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:28,040 Speaker 1: specific about protected groups targeted as part of the motivation 904 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:32,160 Speaker 1: for the act. Now, if it's you know, what's the 905 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,440 Speaker 1: targeted group here? Is it somebody who's a counter protester 906 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 1: or they are counter protesters now covered in statute for 907 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:39,839 Speaker 1: hate crime? And the answer is no, I don't think 908 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,040 Speaker 1: he tried to run over the first of all, I 909 00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,640 Speaker 1: don't think he tried to run over anyone specifically for 910 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,520 Speaker 1: anything other than being a protester who was there. And 911 00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:49,719 Speaker 1: so it's not a although I don't know, maybe he 912 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 1: tried to run over somebody because he saw a certain 913 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,799 Speaker 1: skin color and he hit other people too, But these 914 00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:55,520 Speaker 1: are the factors that I have to know. And I'm 915 00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,239 Speaker 1: on the other The Washington Post is having this debate 916 00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:58,680 Speaker 1: out in the open, right, is it a hate crime? 917 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:00,960 Speaker 1: Is it a terrorist act? May we will revisit that 918 00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,319 Speaker 1: tomorrow when we have some more of the specifics of 919 00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,319 Speaker 1: the case to work with two. But that's certainly out 920 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:11,120 Speaker 1: there now as well. Kevin in Arizona, you're on buck 921 00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:15,839 Speaker 1: Sexton with America. Now, what's up, hey, buddy, I'm good man, 922 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:19,239 Speaker 1: I'm all right. Oh I'm enjoining the It's a cool 923 00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,200 Speaker 1: one five over here. I hope you can come and 924 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:25,520 Speaker 1: business sometime Arizona is now added to my list along 925 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,200 Speaker 1: with Mississippi places. I'm gonna continuously say I need to 926 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,719 Speaker 1: visit that place. They've never been there. So look, I'm 927 00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:35,799 Speaker 1: calling because I have a real concern about the implication 928 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,279 Speaker 1: of this of what's going on now, especially with these 929 00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:43,000 Speaker 1: marches with you know, basically these race relations. Uh mica 930 00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:47,480 Speaker 1: certain is with education, really military education. And let me 931 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,000 Speaker 1: preface it by this. Uh recently I wrote a book 932 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,960 Speaker 1: about the Russian Naftian War. It came out like a 933 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,600 Speaker 1: decade ago. But probably most interesting about this book was 934 00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,440 Speaker 1: the preface, and that was, did you know the Russian 935 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:03,160 Speaker 1: generals staff never did a formal study of the war. 936 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,839 Speaker 1: And the reason was, well, one because they lost it, 937 00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,879 Speaker 1: But the other reasons were it did not fall under 938 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:12,200 Speaker 1: Marxist ideology, the war, the cause of the war, the 939 00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,440 Speaker 1: type of war. It did not fall in the ideology, 940 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:18,279 Speaker 1: so it didn't happen. And I'm I'm really starting to 941 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,640 Speaker 1: see this kind of uh, I don't know, this kind 942 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:25,040 Speaker 1: of this intellectual our anti intellectual progression going towards history. 943 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,759 Speaker 1: You know, I'm a graduate of v M I and 944 00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:29,680 Speaker 1: people don't know we were the west point of the 945 00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,920 Speaker 1: South and the Civil War at and at vm I 946 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,440 Speaker 1: right now there's a huge statue of Stonewall Jackson. So 947 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,719 Speaker 1: my question to you is, when's that going down? Are you? Yeah? 948 00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 1: The whitewashing of history here is that. I mean, this 949 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,160 Speaker 1: is an I thought about getting in this and maybe 950 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,400 Speaker 1: tomorrow half because this is a movement that in the 951 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,879 Speaker 1: short term I think there's some you know, feel good 952 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,640 Speaker 1: is m about it right as well? We want to 953 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,600 Speaker 1: get rid of this guy who fought for the Confederates 954 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,680 Speaker 1: because here were we we you know, oppose racism, and 955 00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:58,680 Speaker 1: well I'm gonna get rid of this statue. And that 956 00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:00,520 Speaker 1: obviously was a part of the show Stiel thing I 957 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:04,120 Speaker 1: had to do with General Lee. Uh. But when do 958 00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:07,879 Speaker 1: we decide the Washington Monument comes down? You know, when 959 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,359 Speaker 1: when do we decide that the the Jefferson designed uh 960 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,040 Speaker 1: Rotunda University of Virginia has to come down? I mean, 961 00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:19,000 Speaker 1: what are the outer limits of this ideology of anything touching? 962 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:24,160 Speaker 1: When does Yale University's name go away? As I've said before, 963 00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,440 Speaker 1: Eli who Yale? Look it up if you want. He 964 00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,480 Speaker 1: was a slave trader. I don't think Yale is gonna 965 00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,560 Speaker 1: want to drop its name anytime soon. So you know 966 00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:33,920 Speaker 1: there are no outer limits to this, uh, the White 967 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,200 Speaker 1: Washington history. You know what, it's a it's a it's 968 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,279 Speaker 1: a great question, Kevin, And um, I will I'm gonna 969 00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,680 Speaker 1: put this on the agenda for tomorrow show because I've 970 00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,439 Speaker 1: already got a few things. I'm running longer. I went 971 00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,440 Speaker 1: longer on the Charlottesville thing that I wanted to today, 972 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:47,920 Speaker 1: But that happens sometimes. I want to take a lot 973 00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,040 Speaker 1: of calls. Your call is great. Let me let me 974 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,000 Speaker 1: think about this because I want to talk about the 975 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,120 Speaker 1: erasing of history. It is very as a concept. The 976 00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,360 Speaker 1: erasing of history is very Soviet. In fact, the Soviets 977 00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,720 Speaker 1: would even go in and remove people with an exact 978 00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:03,400 Speaker 1: own life, like their names from the official hard copy documents. 979 00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,759 Speaker 1: And so when they erase people, they really erase people. 980 00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,600 Speaker 1: But let me we'll come back to this tomorrow. I'll 981 00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,719 Speaker 1: say that to you, So give me, give me a 982 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:13,000 Speaker 1: time to lay on this when I'll come back to 983 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:16,160 Speaker 1: but shields high, Kevin, thank you, and China and the 984 00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:17,799 Speaker 1: Trump statement on that on the other side of the 985 00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,000 Speaker 1: break stay, we will combat the counterfeiting and piracy that 986 00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:25,360 Speaker 1: destroys American jobs. We will enforce the rules of fair 987 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:29,840 Speaker 1: and reciprocal trade that formed the foundation of responsible commerce. 988 00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,800 Speaker 1: And we will protect forgotten Americans who have been left 989 00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:37,239 Speaker 1: behind by a global trade system that has failed to 990 00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:41,640 Speaker 1: look and I mean look out for their interests. They 991 00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,520 Speaker 1: have not been looking out at all. This is what 992 00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,240 Speaker 1: I promised to do as a candidate for this office, 993 00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,080 Speaker 1: and this is what I am doing right now as President. 994 00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:55,799 Speaker 1: Ambassador Lighthouser, you are empowered to consider all available options 995 00:56:55,920 --> 00:57:01,200 Speaker 1: at your disposal. We will safeguard the copyrights, patents, trademarks, 996 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:05,720 Speaker 1: trade secrets, and other intellectual property that is so vital 997 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:11,240 Speaker 1: to our security and to our prosperity. We will uphold 998 00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:15,439 Speaker 1: our values, we will defend our workers, and we will 999 00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:22,840 Speaker 1: protect the innovations, creations, and inventions that power our magnificent country. 1000 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,400 Speaker 1: Thank you and God blessing Trump sons this executive order 1001 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:31,480 Speaker 1: that would make the US trade representative quote examine China's 1002 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:35,160 Speaker 1: policy practices and actions with regard to the forced transfers 1003 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,760 Speaker 1: of American technology and the theft of American intellectual property. 1004 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:43,040 Speaker 1: China is, when it comes to intellectual property, secrets of 1005 00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,880 Speaker 1: all kinds, just trying to steal, just trying to steal everything. 1006 00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:52,040 Speaker 1: I mean they they are uh coming after us with 1007 00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,240 Speaker 1: with everything they can on this issue. And of course, 1008 00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,880 Speaker 1: because of the cyber world we live in, intrusions meant 1009 00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,360 Speaker 1: to just get information or easier than ever before. You know, 1010 00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 1: it used to be if you're going to steal trade 1011 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,120 Speaker 1: secrets you got you had to get a guy or 1012 00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,959 Speaker 1: gal inside the company, or you had to have someone 1013 00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,520 Speaker 1: who was physically at least in the country. Now you 1014 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,600 Speaker 1: can steal trade secrets, You can steal stuff sitting in 1015 00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:17,000 Speaker 1: it from a computer terminal somewhere. You can in fact, 1016 00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,640 Speaker 1: steal the life blood, intellectual life blood of of a 1017 00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:24,440 Speaker 1: company in a matter of minutes if you're a good 1018 00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:27,920 Speaker 1: enough hacker and you've got enough access. And what's the 1019 00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,440 Speaker 1: response of this now? I like that Trump is shining 1020 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:34,080 Speaker 1: a light on this issue. And and it also opts 1021 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,600 Speaker 1: the pressure on China. You know, this is all part 1022 00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,440 Speaker 1: of the leverage game of getting China to do more 1023 00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,960 Speaker 1: on North Korea. By putting pressure on them on the 1024 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,600 Speaker 1: intellectual property theft front, it gives us another level of Okay, well, look, 1025 00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,240 Speaker 1: well maybe we won't go all the way on this, 1026 00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,520 Speaker 1: but you've gotta give us a little more on North Korea, right, 1027 00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:52,440 Speaker 1: they're using the tools at their disposal that Trump and 1028 00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:57,080 Speaker 1: the administration to push for action in a number of ways, 1029 00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,840 Speaker 1: for from China and North Korea being the most notable 1030 00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:05,240 Speaker 1: one right now, but also two I think push lawmakers 1031 00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:11,240 Speaker 1: and the American federal agencies to find ways to protect 1032 00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,600 Speaker 1: us against this threat of China stealing. I mean, we 1033 00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:20,080 Speaker 1: are an information based economies. Information and technology are essential 1034 00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:24,680 Speaker 1: advantages in commerce on the battlefield, as as I said, 1035 00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:28,440 Speaker 1: at a civilizational level, at a determining the future of 1036 00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:33,640 Speaker 1: humanity level, being an information powerhouse is essential. And if 1037 00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:37,320 Speaker 1: you can steal the secrets of the other guys of 1038 00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,160 Speaker 1: all kinds, you get a tremendous advantage. You can catch 1039 00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,080 Speaker 1: up and maybe even surpass them. And that's the game. 1040 00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:45,680 Speaker 1: That's the long game that China is playing against us, 1041 00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,800 Speaker 1: and we should wake up and understand that right now 1042 00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,760 Speaker 1: we are not prepared for that fight. All right, Welcome back, everybody. 1043 00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:56,600 Speaker 1: We have been discussing Charlottesville today here in the Freedom Hut. 1044 00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:00,680 Speaker 1: It was quite a weekend violence, may m and a 1045 01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:04,560 Speaker 1: lot of concerns about the response from the administration. But 1046 01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,200 Speaker 1: one group that didn't get nearly enough attention in all 1047 01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:11,080 Speaker 1: this police and first responders and those who are trying 1048 01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:16,640 Speaker 1: to keep protesters safe and doing so under very difficult circumstances. Well, 1049 01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:20,120 Speaker 1: Britt McHenry joins us now. She was formerly with ESPN 1050 01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,560 Speaker 1: and she's now a writer, reporter and journalist, and she 1051 01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,920 Speaker 1: wrote up on The Federalist about this issue. Charlottesville shows 1052 01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:31,080 Speaker 1: once again why blue lives matter. Britt, great to have you. 1053 01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,120 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me on the show. I appreciate it. 1054 01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,880 Speaker 1: Please tell me a bit about your peace. How did 1055 01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,720 Speaker 1: Charlottesville show us that the cops are essential in all 1056 01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:46,080 Speaker 1: these processes? Yeah, well, so as everything was unfolding Friday 1057 01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:49,960 Speaker 1: night and Saturday morning, an image that stood out to 1058 01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:54,160 Speaker 1: me and I still don't know who the photographer is, 1059 01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:58,080 Speaker 1: and whoever it is, deserves the award for for that 1060 01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:01,600 Speaker 1: photo because it was very powerful. This image stood out 1061 01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:06,400 Speaker 1: to me of a police officer UH doing his his duty, 1062 01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:11,320 Speaker 1: protecting and serving the community, and behind him there was 1063 01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:18,360 Speaker 1: a congregation of KKK members, white supremacists. Everything that we 1064 01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:22,600 Speaker 1: saw so much so that people actually thought the photo 1065 01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:27,520 Speaker 1: was taken from the Charlottesville protests. So it was being shared, 1066 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:32,920 Speaker 1: I mean, just twenty thousand retweets favorites on different accounts 1067 01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:36,840 Speaker 1: and being shared everywhere, and I myself posted it on 1068 01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:40,640 Speaker 1: my own personal Facebook page because I can't imagine the 1069 01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:44,680 Speaker 1: type of strength that would require from an individual. And 1070 01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,360 Speaker 1: it was then brought to my attention who the police 1071 01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:53,000 Speaker 1: officer was, Darius Rico Nash of Charlottesville, and that was 1072 01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:57,880 Speaker 1: actually from protests the previous months in July, so still recent, 1073 01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:01,240 Speaker 1: but not what we witnessed on Saturday. And it stood 1074 01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:06,880 Speaker 1: out to me. That's because all of these people, especially 1075 01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:12,320 Speaker 1: more left leaning, you know, liberal sports journalists I know, 1076 01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,680 Speaker 1: and and different Twitter accounts, which I don't mind following 1077 01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:17,680 Speaker 1: because I think it's important to have a lot of 1078 01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:20,920 Speaker 1: different perspectives on any issue, but a lot of these 1079 01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,400 Speaker 1: these individuals were sharing that photo. And these are the 1080 01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:30,040 Speaker 1: same individuals who were really criticizing police officers and supporting 1081 01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:34,160 Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick and his protests and ignoring when he wore 1082 01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:38,000 Speaker 1: the socks with the police officers depicted his pigs on them, 1083 01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:42,480 Speaker 1: and just really creating him as as a hero, and 1084 01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,520 Speaker 1: always criticizing every little thing about our law enforcements. So 1085 01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:50,520 Speaker 1: when I saw that photo in connection to those same individuals, 1086 01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:54,440 Speaker 1: that's what really inspired me to write, um to hit 1087 01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:58,320 Speaker 1: the keyboard because I just don't think our police officers 1088 01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:02,800 Speaker 1: get enough attention and sure that that our justices system 1089 01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:08,480 Speaker 1: isn't perfect, but they're police officers like Nash who have 1090 01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:12,960 Speaker 1: to put themselves in danger and face some really awful things, 1091 01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,960 Speaker 1: and they don't get any accolades, they don't get any attention. 1092 01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:18,840 Speaker 1: So I think it was good that that photo is 1093 01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,240 Speaker 1: being shared, that people could see that, but I wanted 1094 01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,919 Speaker 1: to add more of a voice to it. I think 1095 01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:27,480 Speaker 1: that a police officer, particuarly, an African American police officer 1096 01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:32,760 Speaker 1: who is standing guard and ensuring the rights of protesters, 1097 01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:37,680 Speaker 1: including neo Nazis, including white supremacists, uh does tell us 1098 01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,000 Speaker 1: a lot about what law enforcement is like in this 1099 01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:44,840 Speaker 1: country and and how seriously and how faithfully they execute 1100 01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:48,040 Speaker 1: their their oaths to serve and to protect. But I 1101 01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:51,800 Speaker 1: know Britt that you also have have raised awareness and 1102 01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:55,680 Speaker 1: talked in the past about kneeling during the national anthem. 1103 01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:57,040 Speaker 1: I just wanted you to speak to that for a 1104 01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:58,920 Speaker 1: few moments, because I mean you as a former sports 1105 01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,919 Speaker 1: reporter where we're particularly close to that issue was well, 1106 01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:04,400 Speaker 1: and the and the disrespect that it shows for our 1107 01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:09,840 Speaker 1: armed services. Absolutely, I sort of stayed away from it 1108 01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:14,240 Speaker 1: during the season last year because, as I said before, 1109 01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:17,160 Speaker 1: I was a reporter, so I never knew if I 1110 01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:21,040 Speaker 1: would be sent to cover a forty Niners game and 1111 01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:24,800 Speaker 1: and cover it from a strict reporting perspective as what 1112 01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,920 Speaker 1: was happening on the field. And as you know, I mean, 1113 01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:31,560 Speaker 1: there's different roles if your calmnesst if you're an host 1114 01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:36,240 Speaker 1: and you have your opinions, it doesn't necessarily mix if 1115 01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:38,880 Speaker 1: you have to do on the ground reporting work. So 1116 01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,880 Speaker 1: I had sort of stayed silent. It always bothered me. 1117 01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:46,520 Speaker 1: Um the daughter of a retired lieutenant colonel in the 1118 01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:51,040 Speaker 1: Air Force, grew up on Air Force basis. There is just, 1119 01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:55,920 Speaker 1: in my opinion, very few things that are that disrespectful 1120 01:04:56,040 --> 01:05:02,400 Speaker 1: to our country to just kneel, sit and speak out 1121 01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:06,240 Speaker 1: negatively against our country in our national anthem, which is 1122 01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:09,600 Speaker 1: what he did. But I remained silent, and in a 1123 01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:12,920 Speaker 1: lot of ways I had to, given where I was 1124 01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:16,080 Speaker 1: currently working in that specific role that I was in. 1125 01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,200 Speaker 1: But I wasn't until the fourth of July when Colin 1126 01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:23,640 Speaker 1: Kaepernick tweeted something about not being able to truly celebrate 1127 01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:29,280 Speaker 1: America that just burned me. I I went to the 1128 01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:31,760 Speaker 1: library the next day and and wrote a blog that 1129 01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:35,280 Speaker 1: ended up going viral because it really upset me, and 1130 01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:37,360 Speaker 1: I think it upsets a lot of conservatives and a 1131 01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:40,120 Speaker 1: lot of people who see their loved ones go off 1132 01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:44,200 Speaker 1: to war and want to do the right things. And 1133 01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:48,160 Speaker 1: I applaud Kaepernick for doleating the charities. He's put his 1134 01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:50,880 Speaker 1: money where his mouth is in certain respects, but I 1135 01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:54,920 Speaker 1: still will never support that form of protest or a 1136 01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,480 Speaker 1: lot of the things he's demonstrated in doing so. We're 1137 01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:01,480 Speaker 1: speaking of brit mckenry. She is a order and journalist. 1138 01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:05,920 Speaker 1: Britt also on the only issue of of sports journalists, 1139 01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:07,680 Speaker 1: because you were formerly with the ESPN, and I know 1140 01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,560 Speaker 1: that you saw a lot of what people refer to 1141 01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:12,760 Speaker 1: as and you don't have to comment on this part 1142 01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:16,920 Speaker 1: of it, but MSNBC with sports, were you surprised at 1143 01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:20,040 Speaker 1: how left wing a lot of sports coverage, meaning the 1144 01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:23,560 Speaker 1: actual journalists of people looking at these issues, how left 1145 01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:26,840 Speaker 1: wing it is? And also, was there a pretty widespread 1146 01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:30,520 Speaker 1: anti police, anti law enforcement feeling among some of the 1147 01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,280 Speaker 1: journalists or is that just the perception that you might 1148 01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:36,760 Speaker 1: get from watching some of the more vocal players who 1149 01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:40,919 Speaker 1: are very again, Kaepernick kneeling and other things like that 1150 01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,440 Speaker 1: that happened. But were the journalists also particularly left wing 1151 01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:48,240 Speaker 1: on these issues? I think a lot of the more 1152 01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:55,479 Speaker 1: vocal ones, uh, in positions that our hosts that sort 1153 01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:59,400 Speaker 1: of have that that microphone, so to speak, have tended 1154 01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:05,920 Speaker 1: to lean that way. UM across the board. And you 1155 01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:09,280 Speaker 1: know Clay Travis actually, uh, he's a friend of mine. 1156 01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:13,280 Speaker 1: He writes for OutKick Coverage, his own website. He actually 1157 01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:16,520 Speaker 1: wrote an article just today on this topic about UM 1158 01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:19,240 Speaker 1: a possible television show in sports he was going to do, 1159 01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,640 Speaker 1: and he was told that he could not talk about 1160 01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:26,080 Speaker 1: conservative viewpoints or politics at all, like on his social 1161 01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:30,880 Speaker 1: media and everything, because it wouldn't mix with sports and advertisers, 1162 01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,080 Speaker 1: which I thought was pretty interesting. So he had declined 1163 01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:36,600 Speaker 1: that show. I just I'm sort of wading through those 1164 01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:41,520 Speaker 1: waters now myself for the first time because I feel 1165 01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:45,320 Speaker 1: free now to be vocal and it's really liberating. But 1166 01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:53,000 Speaker 1: in that process, I've noticed that it's predominantly more left leaning. UM. 1167 01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,200 Speaker 1: You can judge by some of the responses on Twitter 1168 01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:58,840 Speaker 1: social media I've gotten. But what really motivates me is that, 1169 01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:01,880 Speaker 1: not to the cliche, but I think in some regard 1170 01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:05,240 Speaker 1: the silent majority of a lot of people out just 1171 01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:09,520 Speaker 1: in the streets that I've met shopping, running Aaron. It's 1172 01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:11,760 Speaker 1: interesting more people have kind of stopped me because of 1173 01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:15,440 Speaker 1: my opinions and the pieces that I've written to say, Hey, 1174 01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:17,920 Speaker 1: I love what you wrote on Colin Kaepernick, because thank you, 1175 01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:22,120 Speaker 1: thank you that someone said this than anybody asking for 1176 01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:26,800 Speaker 1: fantasy football at nights. To me, that makes me feel 1177 01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:29,679 Speaker 1: like there's an impact and there's more voices to what 1178 01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:34,519 Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of Americans feel but don't feel represented. Well. 1179 01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:36,000 Speaker 1: I was really pleased to see your piece up on 1180 01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:39,880 Speaker 1: the Federalist. Charlottesville shows once again why Blue Lives matter. 1181 01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,360 Speaker 1: Go to the Federalist dot com for that one. Britt 1182 01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:45,639 Speaker 1: mckenry is the author and journalist and she was kind 1183 01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:47,400 Speaker 1: us to give us give us her time today. Britt, 1184 01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:48,880 Speaker 1: we hope you come back sometime. Thank you so much 1185 01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:50,960 Speaker 1: for hanging out with us. I would love to you. 1186 01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:55,240 Speaker 1: Thank you, Uh team. We will be going into a 1187 01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:58,040 Speaker 1: break here in justin moments. I'm also going to have 1188 01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:00,479 Speaker 1: our friend Rich Lowry joy and you give us his 1189 01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:04,839 Speaker 1: take on the Trump response I saw over the weekend. 1190 01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:09,520 Speaker 1: You had a National review with a pretty scathing editorial 1191 01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:13,680 Speaker 1: about how Trump responded to what happened in Charlottesville. So 1192 01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:16,160 Speaker 1: I'll talk to Rich a bit about that. I'm also 1193 01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:20,559 Speaker 1: seeing a lot now on the domestic terrorist defining this 1194 01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:23,200 Speaker 1: as domestic terrorism or I hate crime, and the the 1195 01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:27,400 Speaker 1: definitional nuances here are taking up a lot of well, 1196 01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:29,240 Speaker 1: certainly a lot of media time. There's a there's a 1197 01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:31,080 Speaker 1: big focus on this, So we'll perhaps get into some 1198 01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:35,160 Speaker 1: of that and then later on this hour. Also, uh my, 1199 01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:37,799 Speaker 1: I have more thoughts on the whole Google firing situation 1200 01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:39,680 Speaker 1: with James Demore that I wanted to share with you. 1201 01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:43,200 Speaker 1: I think it's really important that we not just let 1202 01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:47,040 Speaker 1: this go by and and act as though Google's Google 1203 01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,439 Speaker 1: is not just another company that happens to think this way. 1204 01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:51,599 Speaker 1: Google is a company that, probably more than any other, 1205 01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:55,200 Speaker 1: influences the way all of us think. And so having 1206 01:09:55,400 --> 01:10:00,000 Speaker 1: such a rigid ideological framework in place and enforced by 1207 01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:05,000 Speaker 1: the folks at Google is uh troubling, to say the least. 1208 01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:10,240 Speaker 1: And then Buck's wisdom, which was unleashed this weekend, I uh, 1209 01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:11,960 Speaker 1: here's here's a little preview of it. I went to 1210 01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:15,920 Speaker 1: a party and there were some of the young folks there, 1211 01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,240 Speaker 1: which means people to me. Now if you're in your 1212 01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:22,479 Speaker 1: early twenties, you know you're you're young, and you're young folks. 1213 01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:24,479 Speaker 1: So I talked to them about a whole bunch of things. 1214 01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:26,880 Speaker 1: So we'll get into that too. So I've got a 1215 01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:28,200 Speaker 1: lot more for you this hour. If you want to 1216 01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:31,560 Speaker 1: call in eight four four nine hundred two eight to 1217 01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:35,760 Speaker 1: five Buck, and also go to Buck Sexton dot com 1218 01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:39,160 Speaker 1: uh to read stories from the day and we'll we'll 1219 01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:41,519 Speaker 1: be right back. Stay with me, Welcome back everyone. Lots 1220 01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:44,640 Speaker 1: going on today in the new cycle, as we've been discussing, 1221 01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:48,639 Speaker 1: and to help us take a look at Charlottesville and beyond, 1222 01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:51,160 Speaker 1: we've got Rich Lowry on the line. He is the 1223 01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:54,200 Speaker 1: editor of National Reviews, also a syndicated columnist and a 1224 01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:57,439 Speaker 1: commentator for Fox News. Rich, great to have you back. 1225 01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:00,360 Speaker 1: Talk to me a bit about your piece into fensive 1226 01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:04,400 Speaker 1: so called both side is and first if you would, Yeah, 1227 01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:07,400 Speaker 1: there has now become taboo for some folks in the 1228 01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:10,679 Speaker 1: media and on the left to acknowledge the frank reality 1229 01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:13,840 Speaker 1: that there was violence on both sides in Charlotte Hill. Now, 1230 01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't make the neo Nazis any better and in 1231 01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:19,920 Speaker 1: any contest of who's the worst people in the world, 1232 01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:22,360 Speaker 1: neo Nazi has probably come out on top. But that 1233 01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:26,759 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that these so called antifa activists weren't spoiling 1234 01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:28,160 Speaker 1: for a fight. And in fact, a lot of the 1235 01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:30,760 Speaker 1: video you watch it and it's kind of hard to 1236 01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,439 Speaker 1: tell which side is which, and a lot of these 1237 01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:36,360 Speaker 1: battles because they're both of them are wearing helmets, both 1238 01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:39,920 Speaker 1: of them are are wielding flagpoles, both of them are 1239 01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:44,880 Speaker 1: tepper spraying the other side. So this is a really 1240 01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:48,599 Speaker 1: ominous development. And you know, it's kind of street fights 1241 01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:50,840 Speaker 1: left right, street fights of the stort you associate with 1242 01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,200 Speaker 1: the nineteen thirties Germany or Italy rather than the United 1243 01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,439 Speaker 1: States of America. But I fear we're can see more 1244 01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:57,360 Speaker 1: of it rather than less. What did you think about 1245 01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:00,880 Speaker 1: the line that this was a that referring specifically to 1246 01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,160 Speaker 1: what happened in Charlottesville, And I know that a woman 1247 01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,439 Speaker 1: lost her life in ninth terror, she was killed, murdered 1248 01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:09,200 Speaker 1: in nineteen were injured, that it was a grotesque act 1249 01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:12,519 Speaker 1: of domestic terrorism. I think it's correct. I think that's 1250 01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:18,559 Speaker 1: Ted Cruz's phrase, and I think it's appropriate terrorism is 1251 01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:23,439 Speaker 1: when you have a political agenda and you undertaken an 1252 01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:27,800 Speaker 1: act to uh cause mayhem and terror, and that's what 1253 01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:34,000 Speaker 1: this guy in in the car apparently did. So it's 1254 01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,880 Speaker 1: it's it's it's very disturbance, So I would would it 1255 01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:38,679 Speaker 1: be fair? Now, this is not what happened. But let's 1256 01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:41,720 Speaker 1: say in talking about Antifa and these white supremacists or 1257 01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:44,519 Speaker 1: neo Nazis, I guess we can use them interchangeably. I 1258 01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:47,320 Speaker 1: don't really parse much between them. That if there was 1259 01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:49,639 Speaker 1: a fight between them and somebody was killed in that fight, 1260 01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:51,880 Speaker 1: that would not be terrorism. That would be a street 1261 01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:55,360 Speaker 1: battle between two extremist ideologies that ended with somebody dying. 1262 01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:57,280 Speaker 1: But in this case, because this guy just took a 1263 01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:59,160 Speaker 1: car and mowed down a bunch of people without regard 1264 01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:00,760 Speaker 1: for anything other than the fact that he's trying to 1265 01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:03,200 Speaker 1: kill people, I can I I agree that it's a 1266 01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:06,680 Speaker 1: politically motivated active violence and therefore terrorism. But there was 1267 01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:08,960 Speaker 1: this back and forth, as you said, of people on 1268 01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:11,960 Speaker 1: both on on on two sides. I shouldn't say both sides, 1269 01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:13,519 Speaker 1: because there were people who are non violent, but there 1270 01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:15,360 Speaker 1: are people on two sides who were being violent. This 1271 01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:18,000 Speaker 1: was not just a mob roaming the streets attacking people 1272 01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:21,479 Speaker 1: from one part of the political spectrum. Yeah, I think 1273 01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:24,120 Speaker 1: you make and I hadn't really thought about this very much, 1274 01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:27,320 Speaker 1: but I think you make a useful distinction there and 1275 01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:31,120 Speaker 1: perhaps the ramming of the car. Although you know, I 1276 01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:35,160 Speaker 1: think it was premeditated enough to constitute terrorism, it was 1277 01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:37,880 Speaker 1: more impulsive than say, you know, someone building a bomb 1278 01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:40,720 Speaker 1: and setting it off that that God forbid, you know, 1279 01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:43,400 Speaker 1: in the middle of the grounds of the University Virginia 1280 01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:46,080 Speaker 1: or something like that. So but I still think it 1281 01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:49,320 Speaker 1: cost you its terrorism fair enough. We're speaking of Rich Lower. 1282 01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:53,519 Speaker 1: He's the editor of National Review. Trump's response to this, now, 1283 01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:55,880 Speaker 1: I know you guys wrote a you a National Review. 1284 01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:58,880 Speaker 1: The editors. You guys wrote a piece where you you 1285 01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:03,599 Speaker 1: blasted the administration pretty hard for the first the first 1286 01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:06,519 Speaker 1: effort at condemning this where he did he did say, 1287 01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:08,920 Speaker 1: you know, this is wrong on on both sides, or 1288 01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:11,840 Speaker 1: you know there's there's people, Uh, we condemn hatred and 1289 01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:15,759 Speaker 1: bigotry on many sides. What he said, which sat poorly 1290 01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:18,879 Speaker 1: with a lot of folks, including you over National Review, 1291 01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:22,840 Speaker 1: Why do you think, before I give you my version 1292 01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:24,760 Speaker 1: of it, why do you think that Trump would make 1293 01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:28,120 Speaker 1: what would seem like such a an unforced error in 1294 01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:31,680 Speaker 1: talking about something that's pretty straightforward. I don't know that 1295 01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:35,960 Speaker 1: my speculation would be one, you know, just maybe tone 1296 01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:40,200 Speaker 1: deafness to sometimes if prolite opinion wants him to do something, 1297 01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:42,920 Speaker 1: he does the opposite, which isn't isn't always a pad 1298 01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:47,480 Speaker 1: reflex obviously. Three, you know, he's very hesitant to criticize 1299 01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:51,200 Speaker 1: anyone who's supportive of him, no matter how vile the 1300 01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,920 Speaker 1: supporter is. We've seen this with Vladimir Putin, who he 1301 01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:57,519 Speaker 1: won't really criticize, and some of something is alright, people 1302 01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,640 Speaker 1: are very supportive of him. And then finally, and this 1303 01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:03,479 Speaker 1: would I think the the most nefarious explanation. Again, I'm 1304 01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:06,320 Speaker 1: just speculating. You know, he got his start in American 1305 01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:09,559 Speaker 1: politics really as a Birther that worked out better for 1306 01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:12,040 Speaker 1: him than anyone would have expected. So he might have 1307 01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:15,040 Speaker 1: a keen appreciation for how there's a political energy in 1308 01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:17,240 Speaker 1: the fever swamp. And even if he doesn't want to 1309 01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:20,200 Speaker 1: be in that swamp anymore himself, he's not going to 1310 01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:22,320 Speaker 1: go out out of his way to denounce it if 1311 01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:24,000 Speaker 1: he can help it. Now, what do you think about 1312 01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,280 Speaker 1: the second as you right here, naturally, the second bite 1313 01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:28,880 Speaker 1: of the apple full thwarted enough, good enough. Yeah, I 1314 01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:30,559 Speaker 1: thought it was great, you know, And I think there's 1315 01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:33,040 Speaker 1: some nitpicking people saying, oh, he how did the jobs 1316 01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:37,720 Speaker 1: before he talked about this, that's you know, that's small beer. Uh, 1317 01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:39,760 Speaker 1: this is the right thing to say. I think it's 1318 01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:42,639 Speaker 1: on assailable what he said. It would have been better 1319 01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:44,960 Speaker 1: if he said it seventy two hours ago. But as 1320 01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:48,000 Speaker 1: a sheer matter of politics, I think his statement may 1321 01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:50,720 Speaker 1: make his reaction to this a little bit more of 1322 01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:53,759 Speaker 1: an elite inside game where probably most people are out there. Okay, 1323 01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:56,320 Speaker 1: you know, it took him two or three days, but 1324 01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:59,240 Speaker 1: he's had the right thing, So what's the big deal? Um? 1325 01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:02,080 Speaker 1: So again, I would have preferred they didn't have to 1326 01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:04,240 Speaker 1: be dry kind of kicking and screaming to say what 1327 01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:07,160 Speaker 1: most of us would have, you know, just uhum. With 1328 01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:10,320 Speaker 1: thirty seconds thought said on Twitter about the events in 1329 01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:13,120 Speaker 1: Charlesville Saturday, so I can transition us away from Charlesville 1330 01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:15,559 Speaker 1: for a moment, Rich, I'm just curious about your thoughts well, 1331 01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:18,479 Speaker 1: when it comes to the latest round of White House 1332 01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:22,439 Speaker 1: intrigue and uh and the kremlin ology or the White 1333 01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:26,240 Speaker 1: House oology that's going on in the background, with people saying, oh, 1334 01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:30,559 Speaker 1: there's uh, so much, so much being said about Bannon 1335 01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:32,800 Speaker 1: and so much being said about McMaster. Do you think 1336 01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:37,439 Speaker 1: this is just noise? Are you expecting more exits? I 1337 01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:42,000 Speaker 1: probably expect more s exits. I've never seen anything like 1338 01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:45,639 Speaker 1: hr McMaster. I meet the press yesterday, asked three times 1339 01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:48,200 Speaker 1: just to say he can work with Steve Bannon, didn't 1340 01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:52,400 Speaker 1: say it, refused to say Steve Bannon's name defined the 1341 01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:55,200 Speaker 1: kind of people that he could work of with in 1342 01:16:55,520 --> 01:17:00,040 Speaker 1: a way that seemed to buy implication exclude Steve and 1343 01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:03,160 Speaker 1: and so I don't have you know, great inside sources. 1344 01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:06,880 Speaker 1: I don't have inside information, but that that just felt 1345 01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:10,360 Speaker 1: unsustainable to me. And it would seemed as though one 1346 01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:14,120 Speaker 1: of them would have to go. And if Kelly is 1347 01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:18,000 Speaker 1: with McMaster, that would seem to give McMaster the upper 1348 01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:21,000 Speaker 1: hand at least for now. And right now Congress is 1349 01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:24,040 Speaker 1: getting a respite from the the drubbing that I think 1350 01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:28,200 Speaker 1: they would otherwise receive, particularly Republicans in Congress, because of 1351 01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:32,120 Speaker 1: the lack of action on healthcare, of the lack of 1352 01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:35,280 Speaker 1: results on on healthcare. Where where do you come down 1353 01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:39,120 Speaker 1: in the in the Trump McConnell's squabble. You know, I 1354 01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:41,439 Speaker 1: just think there's so much blame to go around here. 1355 01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:45,120 Speaker 1: I think Trump's amateurism didn't help in the healthcare debate 1356 01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:47,759 Speaker 1: and probably not gonna be helpful in the tax reform debate. 1357 01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:50,200 Speaker 1: They don't even have a specific, detailed proposal from the 1358 01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:53,920 Speaker 1: White House yet. But the professionals didn't cover themselves in 1359 01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:57,280 Speaker 1: glory either. And McConnell, in the the speech that kind 1360 01:17:57,280 --> 01:17:59,880 Speaker 1: of set off this spat, said that Trump set on 1361 01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,719 Speaker 1: realistic expectation. Well, it was it was Ryan and McConnell 1362 01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:05,160 Speaker 1: on their own who told the President, hey, look we 1363 01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:07,400 Speaker 1: got this, trust this, you know, we we've been here, 1364 01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:09,439 Speaker 1: we've been around a long time. We're gonna do this, 1365 01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:10,840 Speaker 1: and we're gonna do it in a couple of weeks. 1366 01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:13,920 Speaker 1: And it was just a crazy process and it helped 1367 01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:18,479 Speaker 1: unravel the whole thing. So I prefer for everyone was 1368 01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:22,000 Speaker 1: just kind of focus on on, you know, the the 1369 01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:24,280 Speaker 1: the task ahead and trying to put some points on 1370 01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:27,240 Speaker 1: the board before time runs out, you know, and every 1371 01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:30,320 Speaker 1: hour it's it's getting it's getting later. But this is 1372 01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:32,840 Speaker 1: the world we live in. Rich Lowry, editor of National Review, 1373 01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:36,440 Speaker 1: check out his latest at National Review dot com, including 1374 01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:38,959 Speaker 1: in defensive so called both side is um and racism 1375 01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:41,160 Speaker 1: is evil and those who cause violence in its name 1376 01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:43,919 Speaker 1: are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, the neo Nazis, 1377 01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:46,720 Speaker 1: and white supremacists. Rich thanks for joining us. Great to 1378 01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:49,880 Speaker 1: have you. Thanks so much, Team Hitting a Break Here 1379 01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:52,599 Speaker 1: be right back. I want to talk to you about 1380 01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:55,200 Speaker 1: some of the fallout from Google, as I thought more 1381 01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:58,000 Speaker 1: of it over the weekend, and also Buck doing some 1382 01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:02,400 Speaker 1: wisdom Wisdom's leaning to the younger generation. How did I 1383 01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:04,200 Speaker 1: do that? Where did that happen? Oh, you'll hear about it. 1384 01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:06,479 Speaker 1: You'll hear about it for sure. Eight four or four 1385 01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:09,679 Speaker 1: eight to five. Hitting a Break will be right back, 1386 01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:12,040 Speaker 1: you know, Team, I was spending some more time over 1387 01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:17,920 Speaker 1: the weekend thinking about the fallout from the whole Google fiasco, 1388 01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:21,840 Speaker 1: and I actually sat down to write about it for 1389 01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:27,599 Speaker 1: American Consequences, which is an online magazine published by UH 1390 01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:30,680 Speaker 1: Stansbury Research, whom I also do a podcast with, and 1391 01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:34,120 Speaker 1: so I'm hoping you just go to UH investor our 1392 01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:37,519 Speaker 1: dot com and you can download the podcast. You can 1393 01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:42,200 Speaker 1: also check out my my written piece there for this magazine, 1394 01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:45,960 Speaker 1: American Consequences. But I was really thinking through how it 1395 01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:51,800 Speaker 1: is such a really troubling signal to so many companies 1396 01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:54,880 Speaker 1: and to so many people who want to work, well, 1397 01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:56,960 Speaker 1: just want to work period in America, but want to 1398 01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:01,680 Speaker 1: work in the corporate side of America Rica, that you 1399 01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:05,920 Speaker 1: now have seen not just the enforcement of such a 1400 01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:11,960 Speaker 1: rigid uh intellectual or rigid ideological orthodoxy, but on top 1401 01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:15,919 Speaker 1: of that that they they don't care that they devolve 1402 01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:20,160 Speaker 1: into self parody, that there's really no uh self awareness 1403 01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:24,680 Speaker 1: about how this whole issue of kicking somebody out of 1404 01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:28,439 Speaker 1: your company because they want to raise questions about the 1405 01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:33,320 Speaker 1: policies the company has in place for hiring, for for promotion, 1406 01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:36,240 Speaker 1: uh and then hold and then holding yourself up as 1407 01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:41,840 Speaker 1: some kind of uh ideas you know, central place for 1408 01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:46,000 Speaker 1: the spread of ideas. For I mean Google's role in 1409 01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:49,880 Speaker 1: the dissemination of information. As I wrote in my piece 1410 01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:54,160 Speaker 1: for American Consequences, which is entitled at Least for Now, 1411 01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:56,080 Speaker 1: might get changed before it goes out in a couple 1412 01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:58,840 Speaker 1: of days, because titles can change. But how Google is 1413 01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:01,840 Speaker 1: the most powerful equo echo chamber on earth. Google the 1414 01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:03,960 Speaker 1: most powerful echo chamber on earth. That's what I call 1415 01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:08,800 Speaker 1: the piece and It's really true because when the ideological 1416 01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:13,639 Speaker 1: influences of people who have that much of a say 1417 01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:18,320 Speaker 1: or that much power um decide that they want to 1418 01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:22,400 Speaker 1: push the conversation a certain direction. It's as simple as 1419 01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:25,920 Speaker 1: what are the search search results in Google. It's as 1420 01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:31,719 Speaker 1: simple as who is allowed to use the advertising services 1421 01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:34,200 Speaker 1: of Google and who is maybe a product that they 1422 01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:37,160 Speaker 1: or what is a product that they refused to carry 1423 01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:43,560 Speaker 1: for reasons of politics. The ability to shape the conversation 1424 01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:49,320 Speaker 1: and to play a role in directing perception that a 1425 01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:54,160 Speaker 1: company like Google, Google, Facebook, and Amazon are really all 1426 01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:57,920 Speaker 1: on their own category. Now as these these mega companies, 1427 01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:01,480 Speaker 1: they are beyond and anything that we had seen previously 1428 01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:04,000 Speaker 1: in the Internet era. I mean, the closest thing would 1429 01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:06,120 Speaker 1: have been a o L back in the day. But 1430 01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:09,000 Speaker 1: you know, with a o L it would dial up 1431 01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:11,880 Speaker 1: and if you could just if you managed to like 1432 01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:15,720 Speaker 1: get into your email successfully, you know, welcome. I mean, 1433 01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:17,519 Speaker 1: you know you were in pretty good shape, right, So 1434 01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:20,920 Speaker 1: it was not nearly as sophisticated. We're not talking about 1435 01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:27,320 Speaker 1: tweaks to algorithms that everyone seems to assume are somehow 1436 01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:33,120 Speaker 1: nonpartisan and a political but I'm the algorithms are definitely 1437 01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:37,719 Speaker 1: privileging certain activities over others. The search is all based 1438 01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:42,719 Speaker 1: upon the decision to show you certain things before other things. 1439 01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:45,960 Speaker 1: I mean, the first page of Google search results is 1440 01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:49,160 Speaker 1: what companies live and die by. In many cases, you know, 1441 01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:53,559 Speaker 1: if I type in I've been going through this process recently, 1442 01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:55,639 Speaker 1: I should know because of my move right. So when 1443 01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:59,760 Speaker 1: I say I need a dish rack, when when I 1444 01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:02,360 Speaker 1: tie been dish rack into and maybe click on the 1445 01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:06,599 Speaker 1: shipping or shopping rather shipping too on the shopping icon 1446 01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:08,960 Speaker 1: whatever Google gives me. If it has a couple of 1447 01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:10,720 Speaker 1: good reviews and I can just click and buy, that's 1448 01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:15,320 Speaker 1: what I'm getting. That is also, in many ways possible 1449 01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:18,479 Speaker 1: for ideas to The first news article that pops up 1450 01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:21,760 Speaker 1: is the one that most people read. The first definition 1451 01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:24,320 Speaker 1: of a term is the one that most people will 1452 01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:30,200 Speaker 1: familiarize themselves with. The first explanation of a political party 1453 01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:34,840 Speaker 1: or belief system, or radical Islam, or the Arab Israeli conflict, 1454 01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:37,639 Speaker 1: or the civil rights movement, or you name it. Any 1455 01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:43,600 Speaker 1: area where there is real back and forth. There's a constant, 1456 01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:48,639 Speaker 1: a constant effort at changing and battling over the history 1457 01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:56,160 Speaker 1: and historiography. And that's where the search platforms have immense power. 1458 01:23:56,920 --> 01:24:00,280 Speaker 1: That's where the search platforms can really be directing the 1459 01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:03,840 Speaker 1: conversation in ways that you're not even aware of, but 1460 01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:06,000 Speaker 1: that are very real and that are happening. And so 1461 01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:09,599 Speaker 1: when Google does what it did, which was to boot 1462 01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:14,400 Speaker 1: somebody out for their ideas, for their beliefs, when Google 1463 01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:18,599 Speaker 1: makes that decision, uh, and then stands behind it and 1464 01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:22,080 Speaker 1: tells people that feel triggered, right, I'm so upset, I 1465 01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:24,840 Speaker 1: need to stay home from work, tells people to feel triggered, 1466 01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:28,679 Speaker 1: that that's okay, that that they uh, that they should 1467 01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:30,519 Speaker 1: be made to feel safe at work by not being 1468 01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:32,600 Speaker 1: exposed to any ideas they don't like. I mean, this 1469 01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:37,680 Speaker 1: is literally a giant digital vacuum cleaner of ideas. That's 1470 01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:40,840 Speaker 1: what Google is supposed to be. And also it presents them. 1471 01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:42,640 Speaker 1: It doesn't just suck them up. It presents them. But 1472 01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:45,280 Speaker 1: if this is not a place where you can have 1473 01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:50,160 Speaker 1: free and fair expression, what is the future of the 1474 01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:53,080 Speaker 1: rest of corporate America. And I know people say to me, Buck, 1475 01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:56,280 Speaker 1: they're all these good entrepreneurs and there's plenty of conservatives 1476 01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:59,120 Speaker 1: running businesses and countries, and yes, that's all true, But 1477 01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:03,400 Speaker 1: where the echo chamber effect does not take root in 1478 01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:06,840 Speaker 1: the company. The echo chamber effect at the level of 1479 01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:11,360 Speaker 1: a Google, a Facebook, and Amazon will influence government policy 1480 01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:15,720 Speaker 1: such that there will be restrictions placed on speech. There 1481 01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:18,320 Speaker 1: will be certain protected groups and non protected groups. I 1482 01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:20,720 Speaker 1: mean the trajectory. And this is why I was a 1483 01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:23,360 Speaker 1: bit annoyed at some of the libertarians I saw that 1484 01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:28,360 Speaker 1: were weighing in right after this whole thing happened and saying, well, 1485 01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:30,880 Speaker 1: it's at will employment. Anyone can get fired from att 1486 01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:34,120 Speaker 1: will employment. Well, okay, but that's actually not true. There's 1487 01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:35,560 Speaker 1: plenty of and by the way, there might be a 1488 01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:40,439 Speaker 1: lawsuit now by James James Damore, But there are plenty 1489 01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:43,439 Speaker 1: of places in the law where you can't just be fired, 1490 01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:47,479 Speaker 1: because right these are people who are being fired. Rather, 1491 01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:49,439 Speaker 1: there are people who are fired, and if they fall 1492 01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:52,000 Speaker 1: into a certain category, they will sue and they will win. 1493 01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:55,240 Speaker 1: But currently in the law, if you're a white Christian male, 1494 01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:57,920 Speaker 1: you're pretty much out on your own. If you're a conservative, 1495 01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:00,280 Speaker 1: you're out on your own, meaning you get five fired 1496 01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:03,080 Speaker 1: just for saying, let's just ask the question, can you 1497 01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:05,439 Speaker 1: get fired for a company from saying you voted for Trump? 1498 01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:08,200 Speaker 1: Think about that for a moment. Can you legally be 1499 01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:10,320 Speaker 1: fired from a company for saying you voted for Trump? 1500 01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:12,560 Speaker 1: Because if you have a company that says that you 1501 01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:15,719 Speaker 1: will only hire people who are you know, who believe 1502 01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:18,680 Speaker 1: in traditional marriage, you'll get sued. Right. But if you 1503 01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:20,439 Speaker 1: have a company that says uh, if you have a 1504 01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:22,760 Speaker 1: company where people and the person suing, WI will win. 1505 01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:25,360 Speaker 1: But if you have a company where someone says they 1506 01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:27,240 Speaker 1: voted for Trump and they get fired, can they sue? 1507 01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:29,679 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, of course they can see it. Will 1508 01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:32,240 Speaker 1: they win? So it's not even just the perception, it's 1509 01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:35,639 Speaker 1: also the law that comes out of that. And that's 1510 01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:38,240 Speaker 1: where I think you that's where all of us have 1511 01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:41,479 Speaker 1: to engage. Whatever company you work for, whatever business you're in, 1512 01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:45,719 Speaker 1: if you're interacting with an employer or employees, the Google 1513 01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:51,080 Speaker 1: effect in terms of the political ideological echo chamber is 1514 01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:54,479 Speaker 1: affecting you. There is no escape from this. There is 1515 01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:57,519 Speaker 1: no I'm I'm going to retreat into my own world 1516 01:26:57,560 --> 01:27:00,320 Speaker 1: and I don't have to worry about what been to 1517 01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:04,200 Speaker 1: James James Damore. And no, no, that was just a 1518 01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:09,200 Speaker 1: symptom of very high profile instance of a much more 1519 01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:13,479 Speaker 1: widespread phenomenon, and it's one that, uh, we need to 1520 01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:16,160 Speaker 1: really call out and we need a national discussion over 1521 01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:19,760 Speaker 1: this because we can have all these protected groups and 1522 01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:24,240 Speaker 1: workplace enforcement and laws and regulations that protects some but 1523 01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:31,960 Speaker 1: don't protect political affiliation, don't protect First Amendment protected activities. 1524 01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:34,680 Speaker 1: So I mean, that's the way the left wants it. 1525 01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:36,320 Speaker 1: By the way, of course, they want this to just 1526 01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:40,160 Speaker 1: be about enshrining identity politics, both in culture and in law, 1527 01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:42,760 Speaker 1: and that's what Google is all about. But they they 1528 01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:44,920 Speaker 1: have doubled down on it. They are not stepping away 1529 01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:47,720 Speaker 1: from it at all, no matter how childish and foolish 1530 01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:51,080 Speaker 1: and nonsensical they are this stuff. I mean, everything is 1531 01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:54,240 Speaker 1: free at Google. If you work there, you get you know, 1532 01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:58,720 Speaker 1: free WiFi, free naps, free lunches, free rides home, But 1533 01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:03,160 Speaker 1: not free speech. Not free speech. I want to talk 1534 01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:05,960 Speaker 1: to you in just a moment here about me spreading 1535 01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:08,320 Speaker 1: wisdom to the younger generation. Stay with me for that 1536 01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:11,559 Speaker 1: welcome back team. You know, in New York City you 1537 01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:15,640 Speaker 1: rarely get to become particularly close with your neighbors. I 1538 01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:19,000 Speaker 1: know for some of you that is just bizarre, because 1539 01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:22,680 Speaker 1: you know, you live in a street that you know 1540 01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:25,200 Speaker 1: all your neighbors and you know, you're you go to 1541 01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:28,040 Speaker 1: school together, or your kids got I'm sorry, your kids 1542 01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:30,720 Speaker 1: go to school together, or you have them over for 1543 01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:34,080 Speaker 1: drinks or barbecues. But in New York we're all in 1544 01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:39,400 Speaker 1: such close proximity that usually you don't have much of 1545 01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:43,960 Speaker 1: any interaction with people who live mere feet away from you. 1546 01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:46,760 Speaker 1: You perhaps see them in the building on the way out. 1547 01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:49,160 Speaker 1: You know, here we've lived in apartment buildings. If you 1548 01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:51,120 Speaker 1: lived in a house where you could measure acreage in 1549 01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:54,040 Speaker 1: New York City, you would probably have to be a billionaire. 1550 01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:59,720 Speaker 1: But we live in these large cement vertical cement boxes, 1551 01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:03,160 Speaker 1: no his apartment buildings, and we see each other, but 1552 01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:06,240 Speaker 1: we tend not to get involved in each other's business. Well, 1553 01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:08,040 Speaker 1: there was an exception to that for me this weekend. 1554 01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:11,680 Speaker 1: I was in town alone, still moving out of boxes 1555 01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:15,320 Speaker 1: and finding some really fascinating stuff. By clearing out my 1556 01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:18,559 Speaker 1: desk drawer, I realized that in high school, in one year, 1557 01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:22,200 Speaker 1: I gained from sophomore to junior year based on my 1558 01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:25,080 Speaker 1: medical records. I had my high school medical records somehow 1559 01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:28,120 Speaker 1: in my desk, and I saw that I gained twenty 1560 01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:31,520 Speaker 1: three pounds. So I went from lean and means sophomore 1561 01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:36,880 Speaker 1: Buck too cuddly, perfectly plump junior in high school. Buck. 1562 01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:39,439 Speaker 1: But you know, you just I saw all this fun 1563 01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:42,439 Speaker 1: stuff from way back in the old, really old photos. 1564 01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:44,600 Speaker 1: Maybe I'll post one on a throwback Thursday one of 1565 01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:46,360 Speaker 1: the old photos that I found. I found a bunch 1566 01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:50,519 Speaker 1: of them. But in the meantime, or you know, while 1567 01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:53,280 Speaker 1: I was getting ready to pack, continue to pack all 1568 01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:54,880 Speaker 1: the bags up and get out of get all my 1569 01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:57,400 Speaker 1: stuff out of my apartment, you know, with the move 1570 01:29:57,439 --> 01:30:01,559 Speaker 1: and everything. Uh, my neighbors uh saw me in the 1571 01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:06,080 Speaker 1: hallway and they're they're very nice. Actually it's a brother 1572 01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:08,360 Speaker 1: or a sister and a girlfriend who kind of lives 1573 01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:10,120 Speaker 1: with them. It's a very New York set up, right, 1574 01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:12,040 Speaker 1: So it's three people that are in the apartment all 1575 01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:15,040 Speaker 1: the time, but really only two of them technically live there. Uh. 1576 01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:18,880 Speaker 1: And they're really nice people, very very friendly, uh, and 1577 01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:23,040 Speaker 1: about a decade younger than me. And they just happened 1578 01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:25,240 Speaker 1: to live down the hallway. So we were chatting a 1579 01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:28,599 Speaker 1: little bit and they said they were having some people 1580 01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:34,400 Speaker 1: over and they were celebrating a birthday, birthday, and you 1581 01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:37,599 Speaker 1: know that I'm invited. And my girlfriend, which was invited 1582 01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:40,640 Speaker 1: to and so, you know, we could Molly and so 1583 01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:42,559 Speaker 1: we could go. Molly was out of town, but I said, hey, 1584 01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:44,400 Speaker 1: look I'll stop buy and have a drink. You know, 1585 01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:47,120 Speaker 1: I can be a social guy, you know, I can 1586 01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:49,960 Speaker 1: talk to people and tell them stories. And it's great 1587 01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:53,840 Speaker 1: because I'm in New York. So no one. I'm sure 1588 01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:58,479 Speaker 1: that nobody at this party watches Fox News, listens to 1589 01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:04,080 Speaker 1: talk radio. Uh, is conservative or even well maybe they're political, 1590 01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:07,400 Speaker 1: but very unlikely, just based on the numbers here in 1591 01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:10,559 Speaker 1: the city that they'd be someone familiar with with me 1592 01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:12,559 Speaker 1: or or my work. So it's fun because I get 1593 01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:15,360 Speaker 1: to to show up and have the uh you know 1594 01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:17,519 Speaker 1: that the complete anonymity of me, a guy who says 1595 01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:20,000 Speaker 1: I work in media, which in New York I mean 1596 01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:21,720 Speaker 1: a lot of things. So I was there, I'm there 1597 01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:24,680 Speaker 1: at this party and uh yeah, that's right. I was 1598 01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:28,680 Speaker 1: drinking rose out of a plastic cup, you know, a 1599 01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:31,439 Speaker 1: solo cup, red cup, because that's what one does at 1600 01:31:31,439 --> 01:31:34,080 Speaker 1: a party when one's you know, in in there early 1601 01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:37,240 Speaker 1: to mid twenties, and people were being very friendly and everything, 1602 01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:39,559 Speaker 1: and I realized that after a while I had a 1603 01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:43,160 Speaker 1: little little gathering, you know, I was sitting. They actually 1604 01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:45,800 Speaker 1: had a bit of outdoor space, which is very nice 1605 01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:47,479 Speaker 1: here in New York City. They had their own private 1606 01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:52,000 Speaker 1: little deck overlooking part of well overlooking another building, but 1607 01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:54,120 Speaker 1: it was a deck, and I'm sitting there and I 1608 01:31:54,160 --> 01:31:58,639 Speaker 1: had a gathering and I started weighing in on you know, well, 1609 01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:00,920 Speaker 1: you know you should how any of you are married, 1610 01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:03,519 Speaker 1: and you know you you should you should really think 1611 01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:06,040 Speaker 1: about you know, what your future is going to be, 1612 01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:09,840 Speaker 1: and you know, your career. And I realized over the 1613 01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:12,519 Speaker 1: course of this this party, and I was there maybe 1614 01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:16,479 Speaker 1: for a couple of hours, very nice people. Actually spoke 1615 01:32:16,479 --> 01:32:19,920 Speaker 1: with a female software engineer who told me that she 1616 01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:23,080 Speaker 1: was one of I think there were ten software engineers 1617 01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:24,800 Speaker 1: at her company, and eight of the ten were women. 1618 01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:28,439 Speaker 1: So she thought that whole Google memo fiasco was was 1619 01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:31,280 Speaker 1: particularly amusing because she's like, my whole team as women, 1620 01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:33,280 Speaker 1: and that's just the way that it worked out of 1621 01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:37,040 Speaker 1: software engineers, and they all went to very fancy schools 1622 01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:41,679 Speaker 1: for for computer science and everything else. Anyway, back to 1623 01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:43,400 Speaker 1: me sitting there, so I realized that I had not 1624 01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:45,720 Speaker 1: become the guy. I was the oldest guy at the 1625 01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:50,000 Speaker 1: party definitely, and I was the guy who was had 1626 01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:52,320 Speaker 1: had a bunch of young people, young people. I'm even 1627 01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:54,479 Speaker 1: saying this, there're only ten years younger, but I young 1628 01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:58,360 Speaker 1: people in a little semi circle, and I'm dispensing life advice, 1629 01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:00,840 Speaker 1: and i mean, I'm I'm just it down, and I'm like, 1630 01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:03,680 Speaker 1: you know, you gotta pick you gotta pick something that 1631 01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:06,639 Speaker 1: you love and you go in that direction and don't 1632 01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:08,880 Speaker 1: get so caught up in the money early on. And 1633 01:33:08,920 --> 01:33:10,719 Speaker 1: you know, I'm just giving them all kinds of stuff. 1634 01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:13,160 Speaker 1: You know, I'm telling them, you know, play the field 1635 01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:15,240 Speaker 1: when you're young, because you only want to get married once. 1636 01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:17,160 Speaker 1: Don't be one of these people. It's getting married, you know, 1637 01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:19,920 Speaker 1: five six times. It's really expensive and it's not a 1638 01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:22,960 Speaker 1: good idea. So yeah, I would just go I'm just 1639 01:33:23,040 --> 01:33:25,400 Speaker 1: laying it all down. And I kind of realized that 1640 01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:27,439 Speaker 1: this was the first time that I think I've ever 1641 01:33:27,479 --> 01:33:30,679 Speaker 1: been in a party and I was the old man 1642 01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:34,759 Speaker 1: sitting on the sitting on the rocking chair. It actually 1643 01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:37,640 Speaker 1: was a swinging a swing chair, so it's kind of 1644 01:33:37,640 --> 01:33:39,519 Speaker 1: like I was the old guy sitting on a rocking 1645 01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:43,280 Speaker 1: chair dispensing advice to the whipper snappers, who are my 1646 01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:46,000 Speaker 1: neighbors who are having a very loud party. So I'm 1647 01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:47,920 Speaker 1: glad that I was invited, because otherwise I would have 1648 01:33:47,960 --> 01:33:50,040 Speaker 1: heard all the music anyway. So at least this way 1649 01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:52,599 Speaker 1: I got to have some have some wine and meet 1650 01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:56,440 Speaker 1: my neighbors. But you know, dispensing advice on life. Neighborhoods. 1651 01:33:56,439 --> 01:33:58,960 Speaker 1: They should live in New York City restaurants, they should 1652 01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:01,840 Speaker 1: go dates spots, they should take people out too. I 1653 01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:03,519 Speaker 1: mean it was great. I was like, Oh, to be 1654 01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:07,320 Speaker 1: twenty three or twenty four, twenty five years old again 1655 01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:10,120 Speaker 1: in New York City or any city or anywhere in 1656 01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:13,120 Speaker 1: the country. Oh, man, I would be I would be 1657 01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:16,680 Speaker 1: having an absolute ball. I would just be having a 1658 01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:20,439 Speaker 1: great time. And I was trying to impart upon them. 1659 01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:22,519 Speaker 1: You know, sees this period in your life, you know, 1660 01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:27,040 Speaker 1: it's just a great time for you to really enjoy 1661 01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:30,040 Speaker 1: yourself and pursue you got your whole life ahead of you. 1662 01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:32,599 Speaker 1: And I realized I really was the guy. I'm like, 1663 01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:36,720 Speaker 1: I might as well have been in a plastic you know, 1664 01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:40,000 Speaker 1: at Airondack style chair out on my lawn, you know, 1665 01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:42,240 Speaker 1: yelling at the kids, telling about the good old days. 1666 01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:44,120 Speaker 1: And it was a real moment for me. You know, 1667 01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:47,519 Speaker 1: I realized that this is I'm now. I'm now an adult. 1668 01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:50,720 Speaker 1: I live in an apartment with more than one room, 1669 01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:52,800 Speaker 1: and I go to parties where I'm the oldest person 1670 01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:55,360 Speaker 1: there and I'm giving everybody life advice. I will say 1671 01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:58,000 Speaker 1: they liked the life advice, so at least there was that. 1672 01:34:58,080 --> 01:35:03,080 Speaker 1: They They found Buck's wisdom to be wise. They seem too, 1673 01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:07,679 Speaker 1: they see him to enjoy my my, my tidbits of 1674 01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:10,880 Speaker 1: of life philosophy, and the way that I think that 1675 01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:13,800 Speaker 1: I would approach being twenty five again. I mean, I 1676 01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:15,640 Speaker 1: do say this. If I could go back now it 1677 01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:17,559 Speaker 1: is a thirty five, I'll go back to being twenty 1678 01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:21,040 Speaker 1: five even better like nineteen or twenty. Man, there are 1679 01:35:21,040 --> 01:35:23,360 Speaker 1: some things that I would do that I wish I 1680 01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:25,679 Speaker 1: had known then. I wish i'd don't want to focus 1681 01:35:25,760 --> 01:35:28,840 Speaker 1: on what you know, not to get distracted by things 1682 01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:32,679 Speaker 1: that are so ephemeral. You know, that short term stuff 1683 01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:34,920 Speaker 1: that doesn't really matter, and you get all bogged down 1684 01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:38,760 Speaker 1: and that nonsense, and you know, perception of where you 1685 01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:41,519 Speaker 1: are visa VI, your peer group. When you're twenty two, 1686 01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:43,800 Speaker 1: who cares? Just run your own race, man, That's what 1687 01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:46,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Run your own race. Don't get caught up 1688 01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:49,479 Speaker 1: in everything else. Anyway, I was I was having fun 1689 01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:54,080 Speaker 1: with the the young uns, the the young ones, having 1690 01:35:54,120 --> 01:35:55,720 Speaker 1: a chat with him and you know, out there on 1691 01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:58,920 Speaker 1: Saturday night. And of course it came time for them 1692 01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:01,479 Speaker 1: to go club they I think, and it was about 1693 01:36:01,479 --> 01:36:04,200 Speaker 1: eleven pm, and I was like, well it is bedtime 1694 01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:07,280 Speaker 1: for Mr Sexton over here. I'm I'm gonna be signing 1695 01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:09,559 Speaker 1: off now. And uh it was great. I got to 1696 01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:13,160 Speaker 1: just go next door, change into a pj's throw on 1697 01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:18,320 Speaker 1: the Netflix hang out buck Style, So I really enjoyed it. Anyway. 1698 01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:21,120 Speaker 1: That was so I'm getting acclimated into my new place 1699 01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:24,160 Speaker 1: and I'm dispensing life wisdom to U to the younger generation. 1700 01:36:24,920 --> 01:36:27,519 Speaker 1: Please do speaking of life wisdom, download the podcast Buck 1701 01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:30,599 Speaker 1: Sexton with America Now is the name of it on iTunes. 1702 01:36:30,640 --> 01:36:32,960 Speaker 1: Of course that's the name of the show. 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