1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 2: This is the Bluebig Day Baqut podcast. Good morning, It's Tuesday, 3 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 2: the twenty ninth of July. I'm Caroline hepkea in London and. 4 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: I'm Stephen Carolin Brussels. Coming up today. At least five 5 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: people are dead, including the gunman, after a shooting at 6 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: a New York City office tower that houses firms including 7 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: Blackstone and KPMG. 8 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: EU industries and politicians voice dissatisfaction with the fifteen percent 9 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: US tariff deal as leaders on both sides rush to 10 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 2: finalize the details. 11 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: Plus dollar drift global shift, while the greenbacks waning appeal 12 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: as prompting investors to take a fresh look at emerging markets. 13 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 2: Let's start with the roundup of our top stories. 14 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: A gunman has killed at least four people and himself 15 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: at a New York City office tower that houses firms 16 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: including Blackstone and KPMG. Authorities identified the man as twenty 17 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: seven year old Jane Tomorrow from Nevada. His body was 18 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: found on the thirty third floor, which is occupied by 19 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: the real estate firm Rudin. Blackstone staff who work one 20 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: floor below pushed furniture in front of doors to barricade 21 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:16,199 Speaker 1: themselves in during the attack. New York Police Commissioner Jessica 22 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: Tish says investigators are now working to understand a motive. 23 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 3: According to our law enforcement partners in Las Vegas, mister 24 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 3: Timora has a documented mental health history. His motives are 25 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 3: still under investigation, and we are working to understand why 26 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 3: he targeted this particular location. 27 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: Jessica Tish, speaking after the attack set off a chaotic 28 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: scene in mid ten Manhattan, with firms located nearby, including 29 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: Jeffreys and Citadel, going into lockdown. 30 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 2: In trade news, a growing chorus of critics have taken 31 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: aim at the deal the EU struck with President Trump 32 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: for a fifteen percent tariff on most of its exports 33 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: to the US. Clemens Foost, president of Germany's EPO in 34 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: Institute for Economic Research, called the deal a humiliation Germany's chances. 35 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 2: Fredrick murd who initially welcomed the deal, warned the economy 36 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 2: would suffer significant damage from the tariffs, whilst the French 37 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 2: Prime Minister for Roswa Bairru went further say that the 38 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: Bloc had opted for submission. But despite the critics, the 39 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 2: EU's trade chief Maras Sefkevich has defended the deal. 40 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 4: If I were to sum up this US agreement in 41 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 4: one sentence, I would say it brings renewed stability and 42 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 4: opens door to strategic collaboration. This is the result of 43 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 4: a month of genuine and relentless efforts. 44 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: Maras Chefchevich was speaking as the EU and US are 45 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 2: now seeking to agree a non legally binding joint statement 46 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 2: by Friday that will expand on the elements negotiated over 47 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,399 Speaker 2: the weekend. Once that statement is finalized, the US will 48 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 2: begin lowering its tariffs on specific sectors well. 49 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: The US Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick meanwhile, says a further 50 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: ninety day extension of a trade truce with China is 51 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: a likely outcome of talks between the two countries in Stockholm. 52 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: The current ninety day tariff cooling period between the US 53 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: and China is due to end on the twelfth of August. 54 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: In an interview with Fox News, Lutnick said it could 55 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: continue beyond that date. 56 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 5: They're talking right now, but the decision maker, of course, 57 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 5: with President Trump. I'm sure the people with who are 58 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 5: speaking with China, We're going to go discuss with President Trump. 59 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 5: How he wants to play it. He's got an excellent 60 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 5: relationship with President she and I think we'll leave that 61 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 5: to Donald Trump to decide how he wants to do it. 62 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 5: Is that a likely outcome, Sure, it seems that way, 63 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 5: but let's leave it to President Trump to decide. 64 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: US Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick speaking to Fox News as 65 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: negotiations continue on issues including duties tied to fentanyl trafficking 66 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: and Chinese purchases of sanctioned Russian and Iranian oil. Lutnik 67 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: also said a delegation from South Korea flew to Scotland 68 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: to meet Donald Trump, aiming to strike a deal while 69 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: he's on a trip there. 70 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: Russian President of Vladimir Putin is facing further pressure to 71 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 2: agree a truth with Ukraine after President Trump announced a 72 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 2: new deadline of ten or twelve days to end the war. 73 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 2: During talks with UK Prime Minister Kirstarma in Scotland, Trump 74 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 2: told reporters there's no reason to wait, suggesting Moscow could 75 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 2: face potential economic consequences if it fails to bring the 76 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 2: conflict to an end. 77 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 6: That are very disappointed. I'm disappointed in President of Putin, 78 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 6: very disappointed at him. So we're going to have to look, 79 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 6: and I'm going to reduce that fifty days that I 80 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 6: gave him to a lesser number, because I think I 81 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 6: already know the answer what's going to happen. 82 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: President Trump had initially threatened a fifty day deadline for 83 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 2: Russia to end hostilities against Ukraine. In mid July, Vladimir 84 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 2: Putin stepped up missile and drone attacks on Ukrainian cities afterwards. 85 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 2: The Kremlin hasn't commented publicly on Trump's new deadline, though 86 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 2: Russia's rubles sank to its lowest level since mid May 87 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 2: following the announcement. 88 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,119 Speaker 1: UK food inflation has at its highest and seventeen months 89 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,239 Speaker 1: due to rising prices for products like tea and meat. 90 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: According to the British Retail Consortium, food bills climbed by 91 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: four percent in July compared with a year earlier, the 92 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: fastest increase since February twenty twenty four. Retailers are blaming 93 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 1: the government's increase in the minimum wage and higher payroll 94 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: taxes for the jump, while the BRC also attributed the 95 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 1: changes to tighter global supplies. The data confirmed that a 96 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: period of falling prices and shops has come to an end. 97 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: Overall shop prices were up for a second month in 98 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: a row. 99 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 2: A group of economists is urging the British Prime Minister 100 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 2: to implement a wealth tax on assets over ten million pounds. 101 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: Their calls come as the government looks for ways to 102 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 2: shore up the fragile public finances in the UK, but 103 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 2: the business and trade sector Jonathan Bernolds recently dismissed the 104 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 2: idea as quote daft. Bloomberg's Tea Adebayo has more. 105 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 7: Chancellor Rachel Reeves is potentially facing a fiscal whole as 106 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 7: large as thirty billion pounds ahead of her autumn budget. 107 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 7: The answer to her economic woes a wealth tax, according 108 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 7: to thirty largely left leaning economists. The group, which includes 109 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 7: the likes of prominent figures including JRT. Gosh and har 110 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 7: Jun Chang, say the levy could raise enormous sums of money. 111 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 7: Critics of the claim say the move risks dampening entrepreneurship 112 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 7: and triggering in exodus of the rich. Opinion polls suggest 113 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 7: Brits are supportive of wealth taxes. In London. Tea at 114 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 7: a Bio Bloomberg. 115 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: Radio and those are your top stories on the markets today. 116 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: The Mscish Pacific index down eight tenths of one percent. 117 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: Eurostocks fifty features are two tenths higher, but the dollar 118 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: is holding on to its strength. Yesterday trading flat on 119 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg Dollar Spot Index, and the US euro was 120 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: at one point fifteen eighty five, the pound at one 121 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: thirty three forty eight against the dollar. The ten yure 122 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: Treasury eeal this morning dinnabases point at four point four percent, 123 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: as we are watching gold prices as well, upsightly on 124 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: the day three thy three hundred and sixteen dollars triats. 125 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 2: Now, in a moment, we'll bring you our reporting on 126 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 2: how the dollar's waning appeal for investors is sparking a 127 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 2: revival in emerging markets, and will also discuss the variety 128 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 2: of robots at China's annual AI conference. 129 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: First, let's bring you the latest on that shooting in 130 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: New York City where a gunman killed four people and 131 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: shot himself at an office building in mid ten Manhattan. 132 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: Our national security reporter Miles Miller was at the press 133 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: conference following the shooting. We spoke to him a little 134 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: earlier and started by asking him about how the events unfolded. 135 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 8: Well, Yes, the first calls came in just after six thirty, 136 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 8: police say surveillance video shows the gunman, identified as Shane 137 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 8: to Mora of Las Vegas, stepping out of a black 138 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 8: BMW parked along Park Avenue near five second Street. He's 139 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 8: carrying a large M four style rifle and enters the 140 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 8: lobby of three point forty five Park Avenue, which is 141 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 8: a high rise that houses Blackstone, the NFL, and KPMG. 142 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 8: He immediately opens fire, targeting an officer who was off 143 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 8: duty but working what's called a paid detail, so in 144 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 8: uniform doing security at this building. Then he shoots at 145 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 8: a woman hiding behind a pillar, and continues firing at 146 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 8: civilians as he moves towards an elevator bank. Once he's 147 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 8: at that elevator bank, he strucks and strikes another man, 148 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 8: and then when a woman is coming out of the elevator, 149 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 8: he does not shoot her, but rides the elevator up 150 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 8: to the thirty third floor, which is the headquarters of 151 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 8: a large real estate company here in New York, and 152 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 8: walks the hallway firing rounds, shooting and killing another victim 153 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 8: before turning the gun on himself. 154 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: We've heard from both the Mayor of New York City 155 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: and also the NYPD commissioner to what do we know 156 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: about the gunman's intentions? 157 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 8: Yeah, that's what's being investigated right now. What we know 158 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 8: is that this suspect who turned the gun on himself 159 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 8: had a concealed carry permit from Las Vegas, from Nevada, 160 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 8: and we also know that he had a history of 161 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 8: mental health issues. Now we don't know if he had 162 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 8: previously been arrested in any of those other jurisdictions, but 163 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 8: we knew he drove across country to carry this out. 164 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 8: Started off in Nevada, made his way through Colorado, Nebraska, 165 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 8: and ultimately New Jersey before ending up right here in 166 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 8: New York. We know that his motive is at this 167 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 8: point not clear, but this is a building that housed 168 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 8: some really important businesses. You're talking about Blackstone, You're talking 169 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 8: about KPMG, We're talking about the NFL. So you know, 170 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 8: his motive is going to be very important to police 171 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 8: officials and they're going to be looking into that later today. 172 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: Castigations continuing. As you mentioned, you mentioned some of the 173 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: businesses in this office building in Manhattan. What do we 174 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: know about what happened inside those offices while these events 175 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: were unfolding? 176 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 8: The images we saw this evening were striking. You're talking 177 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 8: about people who are working for you know, obviously one 178 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 8: of the biggest firms you know in finance, Blackstone, barricading themselves, 179 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 8: pushing couches up against walls, against windows, against doors, because 180 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 8: they did not know if they would be targeted by this. 181 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 8: This is something that was on the minds of everybody 182 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 8: who had heard the gunfire, who saw looked at the 183 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 8: window and saw people running. But as you know, Park 184 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 8: Avenue in New York is not just home to these 185 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 8: groups that are in this building, but you've got Citadel 186 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 8: down the street, You've got bn Y there as well. 187 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 8: Of course JP Morgan building their new building in their 188 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 8: headquarters still there. So this was something that was going 189 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 8: across WhatsApp groups and text threads, people trying to figure 190 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 8: out if their loved ones, if their friends were injured. 191 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 8: And luckily, as of this time right now, we know 192 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 8: that many at the firms were not hurt, but we 193 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 8: know that people who worked in that building were in 194 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 8: fact injured and some of them killed. 195 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: That's our senior national security reporter Miles Miller, speaking to 196 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: me a little earlier from New York. 197 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 2: Now, the global market tam will provoked by US President 198 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 2: to Donald Trump's tariff announcements in April sparked a stampede 199 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 2: out of the US dollar. Now, much of that money 200 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 2: flowed into other developed economies, but billions have washed up 201 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 2: in emerging countries, reviving markets that had fallen out of 202 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 2: investor favor. Our emerging markets reporter cel To Gokuluk has 203 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 2: been writing about this, and he joins us now for 204 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 2: more Good morning, Good to have you on the radio program. 205 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 2: How big has the movement then been into what had 206 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 2: been quite unloved emerging markets. 207 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 9: Yes, I mean, as you said, most of the money 208 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 9: that is leaving the United States actually went to so far, 209 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 9: I mean to Europe or Japan and some other developed markets. 210 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 9: But emerging markets are also benefiting. If you look at 211 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 9: the stock markets, at least data shows, I mean the 212 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 9: reported in terms of reported data, we have seen thirteen 213 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 9: billion dollars in stocks equity funds and more than thirty 214 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 9: billion dollars coming to emerging market bond funds. 215 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: So what kind of assets then in these markets are 216 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: attracted our investors being attracted to. 217 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 9: I mean, one clear actually winner is the local currency bonds. 218 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 9: Because as you can imagine as a dollar of weekends. 219 00:12:54,600 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 9: That means assests in other currencies actually naturally gain. In 220 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 9: addition to that, in addition to the currency gains, you 221 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 9: have the high yields offered by local currency bonds. So 222 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 9: emerging market actually, in general, emerging market local current sybonds 223 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 9: have handed investors more than ten percent and at the 224 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 9: same time, I mean stock markets in general. In Eastern Europe, 225 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 9: for example, Poland, Slovenia, Romania, all these markets returned to 226 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 9: almost forty percent in dollar terms yere to date, which 227 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 9: is you know, historic gains. 228 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 2: You're and your colleagues spoke to some really interesting long 229 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 2: time emerging markets investors, you know, who've been quite surprised 230 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 2: by just the number and the volume of phone calls 231 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 2: that they've been getting from investors, you know, to try 232 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 2: to get into this trade. What have they been talking 233 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 2: about in terms of what it means for the countries 234 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 2: where this money is flowing. 235 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 9: I mean, it's a very well welcome development because many 236 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 9: emerging market because actually have huge spending needs. Again in 237 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 9: Eastern Europe, for example, they have large budget deficits in 238 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 9: Poland Romania because of you know, defense spending and because 239 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 9: of immigration from Ukraine. And at the same time, many 240 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 9: emergen markets have large current account deficits, like for example Turkey, 241 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 9: they need foreign capital as well foreign investments. And at 242 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 9: the same time, even current accounts shop plus countries like 243 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 9: Saudi Arabia, they are trying to modernize deger economies and 244 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 9: that's why they need international investment as well. This is 245 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 9: that's why these flows are very welcome. 246 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: Does it look like a lasting trend at this moment. 247 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 9: It really depends on, of course, what's going to happen 248 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 9: with I mean US policies. But at the same time, 249 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 9: I mean one thing is that Federal Reserve is expected 250 00:14:56,040 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 9: to reduce interust rates, which usually supports risk asses include 251 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 9: being emerging markets. And at the same time, I mean 252 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 9: you keep seeing new trade deals agreements, and this removes 253 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 9: one very important uncertainty from the market, and I mean 254 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 9: less uncertain times Smiths again supporting risk asses, including emerging markets. 255 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 2: Okay, it's a really interesting story, Selchuk, thank you so 256 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 2: much for bringing it to Celtchuk. Gooku Luk there who's 257 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 2: been writing about how the stampede out of the dollars 258 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 2: actually meant a flow into emerging market assets and all 259 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 2: of the traders who've been involved in that in the 260 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 2: past few months. 261 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: Thanks. 262 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 9: Well. 263 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: Just another story that we have been reading this morning 264 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: that I wanted to mention to do with some of 265 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: the robots on show as the AI conference in Shanghai 266 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: and an idea of what robots can do well and 267 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: badly passing backflipping half marathons. Reassuringly, some of them also 268 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: fall down. Yeah they do. 269 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 2: Look, this is a really great Sorry not just reading 270 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 2: about I had to go obviously to look at some 271 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 2: of the videos, and the most striking one, of course, 272 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 2: is the Byte Dance video of this kind of a 273 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 2: big black robot with massive arms, doing up a shirt 274 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 2: and managing to kind of wipe tables and move things 275 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 2: off of tables. So they are you know, a little 276 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 2: insight into maybe what humanoid robots might be able to 277 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: do for us. It's still a long way off though, 278 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 2: something like ten years. But China, I know that's not 279 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 2: that long. But China is really at the forefront of 280 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 2: this and showcasing this this week. 281 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe. 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