1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of the Odd Couple podcasts. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday from seven 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 1: pm to ten pm Eastern four to seven Pacific on 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for The Odd 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: Couple at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Best of the Odd Couple. 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 3: Well, let's go. 9 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: Let's start with the expose on Jalen Hurts that he's 10 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: the worst quarterback in the world. 11 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 3: It is that that? Yeah, that's what it was, right, 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:37,639 Speaker 3: I can't read all that here. 13 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,279 Speaker 4: He was something like that and you might as well 14 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 4: have said that. Yes, long form piece in ESPN today 15 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 4: by friend of the show Jeremy Fowler discussing, you know 16 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 4: what's gone wrong with the Eagles office. It was a 17 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 4: big talking point all last season and basically a lot 18 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 4: of the blame they're pointing to is Jalen Hurts that 19 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 4: he's too rigid and what he likes to do, and 20 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 4: that's what led to the quote disaster that was the 21 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 4: Eagles passing offense. Specifically, they mentioned he doesn't like to 22 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 4: let it rip over in the middle. He doesn't like 23 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 4: to play under center. He doesn't like to turn his 24 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 4: back to the defense. He wants it in a certain way. 25 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 4: He wants to play to his strength. The problem is 26 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 4: one of his strengths is running the football. He doesn't 27 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 4: want to do that either, because it might hurt him 28 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 4: and he might jeopardize his long term future. Long story short, 29 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 4: everybody in Philadelphia is upset with the quarterback and that 30 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 4: he's the reason why their offense has looked inconsistent over 31 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 4: the last couple of seasons. 32 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: And I'm here to push back and say, how does 33 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: winning supposed to look? 34 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 3: I've said it a million times. 35 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: Sports has a short menu wins and losses. Go ahead, 36 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: and you want to put on your party dress and 37 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: you want it to be the way you want it 38 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: to be. No, that's not how it goes. Freaking Brett 39 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: fav won three MFin MVPs three and all he did 40 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: was throw in exceptions and all that other stuff. 41 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 3: I know he won. 42 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: It was a gun slinger and everybody loved him because 43 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 1: he was a gun slinger. How many playoff games did 44 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: they end where Brett fall through it interception across across 45 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: the field up right? His last one in Minnesota that's 46 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: how they lost the game, because that's what he does. 47 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: And no one's saying that Jalen Hurts is the perfect quarterback. 48 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: But the complaining about the winning that they've done is 49 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: mind boggling. Can I give you his two super Bowl 50 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna get into. 51 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 3: The regular season. Can I give you the two super Bowls? 52 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 3: I know for sure those numbers. 53 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: Two super Bowl games, three hundred and thirty three yards 54 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: total yards right average, seventy four percent completely you hear me, 55 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: seventy four twelve yards of play, seven touchdowns, two turnovers, 56 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 1: a one on nine quarterback rating, and he's outshining Mahomes 57 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: in the head to head in those two super Bowls. 58 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: Not even okay, like playoff record six and three twenty 59 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: touchdowns total touchdown twenty. 60 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 3: How many exceptions super Bowl are playoffs? This is a 61 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 3: playoff for. 62 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: Twenty touchdown total three twenty. That pretty good ratio, right, 63 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: that's great. Two super Bowl appearances, one super Bowl championship, 64 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: one super Bowl MVP. And that was the year that 65 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: everybody in their uncle who we had on the show 66 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: for the Super Bowl, what did they say? The strategy 67 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: was for the Chiefs stop Saquon Barkley and you'll win 68 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl? 69 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 3: Was that? Was that not what they said? 70 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: And that year they did stop Saquon and if Eagles 71 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: still won because Jalen Hurts made every throw, every play 72 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: that they needed. 73 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 3: Him to make. We ain't seen Saquan since. 74 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: Exactly we haven't. Last year, we didn't see it. Nobody 75 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: talked about that. I talked about I couldn't break through 76 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: right last year. But my point is you can do 77 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: all this, you know, the window dressing. That's why everybody 78 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: loves Justin Herbert, but he can't win a playoff game, 79 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: but they love him and his arm and the way 80 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: all this other stuff, the external stuff. Man, can you 81 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: stop with the Jalen Hurts. I guess you're bored. I 82 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: guess you gotta figure it out. And you know what 83 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: this sounds like. And I know Jeremy Fowler and his work, 84 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: and I'm not knocking him because someone was willing to 85 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: put this dish. This stuff out there sounds like an excuse, 86 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: like somebody back in the home office who wants. 87 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 3: To say, well, offense is struggles. Humble, ame me. 88 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: You know it's the quarterback, it's Jalen Hurt. I just 89 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: can't believe they win like twelve or thirteen games. So 90 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: tell me if Jalen Hurts is Superman or whatever. I 91 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: guess they go undefeated, or instead of winning thirteen games, 92 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: they win fourteen or fifteen. Is that what we're talking about. 93 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: I understand it wasn't perfect. There were plenty of issues. 94 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,559 Speaker 1: When they threw the ball to aj Brown, they lost 95 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: when right when he was begging for the ball. 96 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 5: And when Jalen hurdsdowns and one hundred yard games they. 97 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:06,679 Speaker 3: Lose, they lose. 98 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: And then other games he doesn't get any balls or 99 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: two or three balls and very few yards and they win. 100 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 3: And it's a problem. 101 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: I just don't from them. I don't get it. And 102 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: count me out on the Jalen Hurts bashion. I'm out 103 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: gladly take a Super Bowl, two Super Bowl appearances at 104 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl MVP from this guy who's a bad quarterback. 105 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 5: I think the issue, Rob is when you look at 106 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 5: the team and if I told you on paper what 107 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 5: they have, I think that's where the issue comes from, 108 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 5: the expectancy of more. If I told you have a 109 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 5: quarterback to your point who wins a clip of sixty 110 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,119 Speaker 5: five percent of his games, he's been a Super Bowl MVP. 111 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 5: And then I told you you may have may one 112 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 5: or two best receiving tandems on the outside on paper 113 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 5: just as far as ability, and then you have arguably 114 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 5: the best running back coming into last season. You know 115 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 5: right there, one, two, or three, depending on where you 116 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,039 Speaker 5: want to put Henry McCaffrey. I think that's where the 117 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 5: teams are having issue. They're saying, man, man, man, but 118 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 5: we got this Ferrari, why are we moving like we're 119 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 5: a Camri? You know, we got this this fact. We 120 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 5: should be going so much more. We should be doing 121 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,119 Speaker 5: so much more. We've got Hurts, We've got DeVante Smith, 122 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 5: we got AJ Brown, We've got tight ends, we got Bark, 123 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 5: we got one of the best offensive lines, we got 124 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 5: great defensive players. And I think that's the issue is 125 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 5: they're wanting more, and I think you're saying, well, you're 126 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 5: winning in the last five six years, you've been winning, 127 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 5: and they're saying, but we're we're winning at a clip 128 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 5: that doesn't make sense for what we have and the 129 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 5: more than thirteen wins likely, but I'm going so last 130 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 5: season they're struggled. So many of their wins they barely 131 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 5: won and then they lost a bunch of bad games 132 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 5: as well. 133 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 3: Barely won or did they win? 134 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: Because you know what, the Lions blew everybody out and 135 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: they had all the weapon What is that gotten them? 136 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 3: Did they win the Super Bowl? 137 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 6: No? 138 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 3: No, no, no, I'm just want to answer your question. 139 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: And that's what time they're talking about. No, I just 140 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: want to get your feel for this. So that's what 141 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: you want. You want the Lion? No, No, the Lions 142 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: had this unbelievable offense right, scored all of Ben Johnson. Oh, 143 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: they got all the weapons. Oh you know, they got 144 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: the quarterback who came from LA and they didn't want 145 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: them there. And and my god, look at Jared Golf. 146 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: Look at the numbers they put up, the lines, blew 147 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: everybody out. That's good, But they didn't win because when 148 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: the game mattered, when the game mattered, Jared Golf had 149 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: four turnovers and three interceptions in the game that mattered. 150 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: I'd rather have my quarterback play and that at this 151 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: level when it matters most. And that's what I've seen. 152 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: It ain't like he can't do it. It'd be different 153 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: if you say. 154 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 5: But Dad's doing point, Rob, That's exactly the point. Listen, 155 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 5: The point is we talk. I say this all the time. 156 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 5: One of the things in life, and it goes for anybody. 157 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 5: I don't care if it's an entrepreneur. I don't care 158 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 5: if you're a world renowned doctor, dentist or surgeon, or 159 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 5: if you're a super Bowl winning quarterback. Now comes expectations. 160 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 5: Now people expect things from you. Now, people expect you 161 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 5: to go into your lab in the offseason and come 162 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 5: back with this bag of new tricks. And that that's 163 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 5: what I think people are having their team, some of 164 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 5: them having issues with within that team because I've mentioned it. 165 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 3: I expected him to. 166 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 5: Run the ball more, use your gifts, like that's what 167 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 5: makes you guys scary when you run the ball. You're 168 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 5: running the ball with Barkley. Now you got the RPO option, 169 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 5: I don't know what you're gonna do. The play action 170 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 5: creates it, and that's what makes them scary. 171 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 3: So I don't know why. 172 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 5: If it's a personal choice and offensive coordinating choice, there's 173 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 5: no reason he shouldn't be running. 174 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: And towards the end of the season, howbody else coordinators 175 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: have they had to listen. 176 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 5: He's at six play calls, okay, And so that it 177 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 5: also leads the question, it's a quarterback. Well, it's That's 178 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 5: what I'm about to get to. Is it a few? 179 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 5: What is up with these coordinators? Is it they're getting jobs, 180 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 5: which I believe is some When you have success, people 181 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 5: pluck from you. 182 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 3: We know that. 183 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 5: We just saw that with the Lions a couple of 184 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 5: seasons back. Now, is there some disconnect here? We know 185 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 5: we're you're reading this this expos a. You got Killen 186 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 5: Moore and Jalen Hurts getting into it. He see I'm 187 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 5: trying to implement this. He doesn't want it. They said 188 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 5: that he'll start it and if it didn't work, immediately 189 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 5: he backs out of it. So I just want Jalen 190 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 5: Hurts to me to go back to what works for him. 191 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 5: Number one, running the ball, not saying a bunch, not 192 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 5: fifteen more times a game, but just a handful more, 193 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 5: to make yourself a threat, which ultimately makes the team 194 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 5: a threat. And then also to go home in the 195 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,719 Speaker 5: lab this offseason come back with a back of churps. 196 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 5: When you look at his numbers, he only passed on 197 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 5: the outside. So let's say the clip is at a 198 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 5: you know I'm making this up, but twenty five percent 199 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 5: passes in the middle of the field if you go 200 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 5: to thirty five percent, meaning I just want to see 201 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 5: him uptick and get a little bit better in some 202 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 5: of those areas where they're deficient. 203 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 3: Uh and and I think that'll bote well for him. 204 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 5: But I think that's the issue is when you look 205 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 5: on paper with the team and the weapons they have 206 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 5: in the offense, they have in the offensive line, you 207 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 5: get left wanting so much more, left with so much 208 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 5: more than. 209 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 3: Two super bowls in three years. 210 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, because it's what do I talk about all the time, 211 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 5: and it's just facts of life in sports. 212 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 3: It's what do you do? What have you done for me? 213 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: Late? 214 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 5: I just I think it's so because you'll say the 215 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 5: same thing about Patrick Mahomes and he's got more super Bowls, 216 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 5: but I think he's got one compared to what three? 217 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 6: No. 218 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 2: No, no. 219 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 5: But but I'm saying because he hasn't been himself, he 220 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 5: hasn't wanted the clip he normally does. 221 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: No, but that people still will tell T say Patrick 222 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: Mahomes the best quarterback in the league, and they're still 223 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 1: living off for. 224 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 3: The past, not off of what he's doing now. 225 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: And my point is, in big games Jalen Hurts has 226 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: played well, and I'm just saying, like, there's also a 227 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: lot of different offensive coordinators. 228 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 3: Say Kwan was varied. 229 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: His first year had a great the record setting the year. 230 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: Last year he couldn't get through the line of script. 231 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: They didn't have the same offensive line. There's a lot 232 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: of stuff that goes into it. Just to look at 233 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: a quarterback and say it's all his fault or he 234 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: didn't want to do that. There are other variables that 235 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: being honest about you think the offensive lot is the 236 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 1: same that offensive line that destroyed the Chiefs, that that one'. 237 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 3: The same amount have line defensive line too. 238 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 5: My god, they've man handled the Chiefs for sure, both 239 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 5: of the lines, I mean, And that's why I'm saying. 240 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 5: That's all I'm saying. Right, he has been perfectly fine 241 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 5: as far as winning. I think he wins at a 242 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 5: clip of sixty five percent. He's been in the postseason 243 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 5: pretty much, I think every year, right, So I'm not 244 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 5: even questioning. I just think they're saying, this isn't making 245 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 5: sense with all that we have, and that's what I 246 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 5: would want to see this offseason. 247 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 3: If he can take that. I just say, people get 248 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 3: to the point where it's a lot, a lot of nippicking. 249 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 5: You know, that's what happens with success though, right, you 250 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 5: know what I album, I just gave you the bread faart. 251 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: I just don't remember anybody like, like seriously coming down 252 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: on him because he was just a oh he's too 253 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: killless with the ball always so so if he would 254 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: have opened it up and start throwing the ball down 255 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: the field and start throwing interceptions, then it would be 256 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 1: he can't we defenses. 257 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 3: He's sloppy with the football, do you know what I mean? 258 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: Like like you can, you can pick whichever one you want, 259 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: but that's what you would be here. And if he 260 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: were to start to just air it out, Oh wait 261 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: a minute, why are you throwing downfield? 262 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 3: You got an open man right there. All you do 263 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 3: is just dump. 264 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,719 Speaker 5: He's the same exact I'm gonna give you real quick 265 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 5: Tom Brady dumping the ball off here, real quick, twenty 266 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 5: seconds check down. Lamar Jackson is an example of we 267 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 5: were like, ah, we saw the lot, you know, the 268 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 5: kind of the limitations, and then he just kept getting better. Well, 269 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 5: he really not a good passer, and then well he's 270 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 5: not passing up the clip of these other passers and 271 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 5: he has and you and I talk about it every 272 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 5: day on the week. It seems his QBR, his passer rating, 273 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 5: some of the all time great seasons that's passers came 274 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 5: from Lamar Jackson. 275 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 3: And my point is that's what. 276 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 5: You think when you get that up to the winning 277 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,119 Speaker 5: clip of Jalen Hurts. You want to see those progressions. 278 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 5: And I think that's where some of the backlashes come from. 279 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: I just think it's ridiculous. Eight seven seven ninety nine 280 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: on Fox. I think if you pick at anything, you 281 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: could find it. But I don't hear that stuff about 282 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: other quarterbacks who can't win. 283 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 3: You know how I feel about Sherbert. 284 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, but okay, we're the only one where the stories 285 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: about short about because you know how I've been sitting here, 286 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: but I'm asking you, what can you show me the 287 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: stories and coming out of them, nobody. 288 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 3: Gets more bail than him? Oh man, it was this, 289 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 3: It was that. Oh there you go. Yes, that's what 290 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 3: I'm trying to say. I'm watching that. Why are we 291 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 3: hearing that story? We don't hear that story. 292 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 293 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 294 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 2: dot Com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 295 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 2: listen live. 296 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 3: Hey, it's me Rock Parker. 297 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: Check out my weekly MLB podcast, Inside the Parker for 298 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: twenty two minutes of piping hot baseball talk featuring the 299 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: biggest names of newsmakers in the sport. 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Okay. 311 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 4: So, as a team, after they win last night blowout 312 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 4: went over the Cavs, Lakers go fifteen and two in 313 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 4: the month of March. They're winning this month as a 314 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 4: franchise since two thousand and they've had some great teams 315 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 4: since two thousand. All right, now, Luka Doncic last night 316 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 4: scored his six hundredth point in the month of March. 317 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 4: In the process, he joined one of only ten players 318 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 4: to do so. All right, that's what he's doing right. 319 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 4: More recently, even more recently than that, Over his last 320 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 4: thirteen games, check this out, rob Luka, Doncic is averaging 321 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 4: forty eight and seven forty points, eight rebounds seven is 322 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 4: is the game over thirteen game stretch. By the way, 323 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 4: the Lakers are twelve to one in that stretch. So 324 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 4: of course, the big conversation is, well, Luca is playing 325 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 4: so good he's got to at least be top one, 326 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 4: top two in the MVP race. But if you hear 327 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 4: him talk about it, he doesn't seem all that confident. 328 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 3: That the award is his to lose. 329 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 7: Take Listen, obviously, you're getting a lot of FPP momentum 330 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 7: right now, another forty point games only adding to that, 331 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 7: Bombee obviously recently stated his case for why he should win. 332 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 7: Is that something you're interested in doing as well? And 333 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 7: if so, what would your points be? 334 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 6: I mean, I never did that, so I'm not gonna 335 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 6: I'm not the one voting, so you know, but I 336 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 6: think I've been playing pretty good. 337 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 3: We've been winning, so that's it. 338 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 6: That's all I gotta say. 339 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 3: Uh, can I can I give? Can we have applause 340 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 3: for Luca? Please? Can we have applause for Luca? 341 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: That's what pot because what he said is what real 342 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: players said. 343 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 3: Oh that don't don't worry about that, understand me. I 344 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 3: don't have a vote that, that's all. 345 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: It's not that he's he understands playing well whatever, but 346 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: that's the answer when they ask him. I don't have 347 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: a vote. I'm just I'm we're winning. I'm happy with 348 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: how I've been playing, playing pretty good. But he's not 349 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: gonna politic for it. You don't have to. Your numbers 350 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: speak for itself. So I'm I'm happy that that's where 351 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: Luca is, where his head is. 352 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 3: A player doesn't do that. You don't have to. 353 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 5: I don't want everybody being like that, Rob, I get 354 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 5: your point. I want I want a mixture. I want 355 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 5: to I want people. I want to, I want s 356 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 5: g A. I don't want to talk about that. I 357 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 5: want win by yo. 358 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 3: I deserve it. They could give it to me. 359 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 5: I want this person I want and Edwards said, that's 360 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 5: the baddest mother love in the game. 361 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 3: I want it all humility, I want that I wanted 362 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 3: to do that. I want some people to have that 363 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 3: as well. 364 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 5: What Lucas doing well while he's being humble, his game 365 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 5: is not being humble. 366 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 3: Uh is. 367 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 5: What he's doing on the court is absolutely ridiculous right now. 368 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 5: And just to add to it to the it's not 369 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 5: just what makes this wreck amazing. Rob G was talking 370 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 5: about this earlier, told him, I said, remember when Kobe 371 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 5: went on that stretch of like nine ten games straight 372 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 5: of forty or whatever, and then the Lakers weren't a 373 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 5: great team. So we saw what he had to do 374 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 5: to carry them and he was just going crazy with 375 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 5: the points he went on to tear a lot of 376 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 5: people thought he, you know, should have been MVP that 377 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 5: year instead of Steve Nash. 378 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 3: What makes this interesting is he didn't do a vote again. 379 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 5: Lucas here the vote for himself. Lucas doing this on 380 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 5: a team that is surprising. ESPN had them not even 381 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 5: making the playoffs. I had them at like fifth ish 382 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 5: coming in that thought they'd be about fifth. I thought 383 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 5: they'd be good, but the West is lower for. 384 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 3: The seeds started they were not in the playoffs. 385 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 5: That's what he ESPN had winning thirty was it thirty 386 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:13,479 Speaker 5: seven games, thirty six games win, probably thirty That's just crazy. 387 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 5: So I'm not even gonna act like that was oh, 388 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 5: like that was the norm. 389 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 3: That was absolutely crazy. 390 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: I'm surprised because just Lucas, because only ten teams don't 391 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: make the playoffs, Like. 392 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 5: Really the let that, Yeah, that was absolutely crazy. So 393 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,719 Speaker 5: a couple of things with what Luca's doing right now 394 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 5: on MVP level. First of all, the best thing about 395 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 5: it is he's not doing it in losing efforts. Right 396 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 5: they're seventeen and five since the All Star break. They're 397 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 5: fifteen and two in the month of March, and you're 398 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 5: talking about averaging forty that for that stretch that they've 399 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 5: in thirteen games where they're twelve and one. So not 400 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 5: only is he just performing well, oh Lucas putting them numbers. 401 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 5: They're winning, they're winning, and they're winning at a high clip. 402 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 5: And right now I got them sitting third in the West, 403 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 5: which most people didn't have the Lakers coming out like that, 404 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 5: so I think that would bowl well for him. But 405 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 5: what I think is also happening rob is that people 406 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 5: are looking at the Lakers and maybe not so much 407 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 5: the last few days half full of maybe a week 408 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,479 Speaker 5: or so, but the last month, month and a half 409 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 5: where he's been playing great and they're going well, the 410 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 5: Lakers ain't winning the championship. They're not real contingent, so 411 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 5: it doesn't matter SGA's r MVP, or maybe Jokers your MVP, 412 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 5: or maybe of of course Winby's your MVP. And I 413 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 5: think that right there isn't fair when you look at 414 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 5: historically speaking, Jokic won back in twenty one twenty two season. 415 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 5: His team was forty eight and thirty four, and he 416 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 5: was the one of the first and only few to 417 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 5: win the MVP winning fewer than fifty games. We know 418 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 5: Russell Wellsbrook won, he did something historic. They were a 419 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 5: six seed. Michael Jordan won at eighty seven eighty eight 420 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 5: as a seven seeds. My point is, I think Lucas 421 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 5: some of his folks who are kind of taken away 422 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,239 Speaker 5: from him, is that they're looking at the Lakers as 423 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 5: a greater hole and saying, well, yeah, but they're not 424 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 5: gonna win the. 425 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 3: Championship, so he can't. 426 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 5: He's not the MVP, and and everybody, obviously Winby deserves something. 427 00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 3: Who is doing that? 428 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: Do you think the basketballs can really look at his 429 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: numbers and then just use that that thing. 430 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 5: I think subconsciously they're just looking at them. And they 431 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 5: looked at that stretch where the Lakers had a little 432 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 5: of a few weeks where they were just kind of 433 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 5: and guys were injured, reasons out, Lebron was out there, 434 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 5: reasons back what Lebron was in. 435 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: I don't think I think they look at his full 436 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: body of work, which was pretty bad at stretches as well, 437 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: where they didn't think that he was when the team 438 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: was flound and he didn't play well. 439 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 5: But see, that's the thing that's about whether it's saying 440 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 5: the first third, remember he was insane. He was putting 441 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 5: up like it was putting up what he's doing now, 442 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 5: he was doing in the beginning, and then he had it. 443 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 5: Like I said, there was that little period where they 444 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 5: weren't playing the best. They were kind of flying, they 445 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 5: weren't bad, but they just weren't great. Everybody was out, 446 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 5: people were injured, and obviously they aren't playing together. And 447 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 5: that's what we were saying, we haven't seen the core 448 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 5: three play together. And since they've been playing together, they've 449 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 5: been insane. They've been on this run, they've been seventeen 450 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 5: and five since All Star Break fifteen to two, and 451 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 5: he's putting up forty like it's nothing. And also, you 452 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 5: know one of my favorite phrases being a victim of 453 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 5: his own success, where he puts up forty so often 454 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 5: you take it for granted. You're like, oh, yeah, you 455 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 5: have forty ten and ten and now or whatever. 456 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 3: That's insane. I just think that there are other players 457 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 3: who have played SGA. What is he not done? 458 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 2: Right? 459 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: He's on his team is once again at the top. 460 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: They want a championship. You come back with that cache, 461 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: and unless you really crash out, there's no reason to 462 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: look at him and not think that Luca, they there 463 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 1: not at. 464 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 3: The top of the West, right, they're at the top, 465 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 3: shay Is. Would you argue they've overachieved the Lakers. Yeah, 466 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 3: they're better than expecting. 467 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: I'll say that, But I just don't think that it's 468 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: automatic that you're going to discount like you're just saying 469 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: that that's the because people don't think they're gonna win 470 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: a championship is the reason. I think people saw a 471 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: lot of bad juju from Luca as well, and I 472 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: think that's when they turned on him because the start 473 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: was great. 474 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 3: Was the start. 475 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: The start was great, and people still weren't that, you know, 476 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 1: going on in the very very beginning. Yes, oh wow, 477 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: he's look at him, he's in shape. You remember before 478 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: all that, y ooh, look he's in shape. He's really serious. 479 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: He played well, and then there was that stretch go 480 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: back and look, people are making fun of him, how 481 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,239 Speaker 1: fatty looked, you know what I mean, and all that, 482 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: and they weren't winning. So he's putting up numbers then 483 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: and people are like, okay, but they don't win. 484 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 3: But that's the thing though. They're at a crazy clip 485 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 3: right now. 486 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 5: And if any time it's like a Heisman race, Yes 487 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 5: this person, this person, Yes, this person, this person, but 488 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 5: that last month, you start going crazy, you start making 489 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 5: Heisman plays. You might beat the teams, you know, because 490 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 5: a lot of times you played your rival and your conference. 491 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 5: Towards the end of the season, you have a great 492 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 5: game if you're at Georgia against Alabama, or you're Michigan vs. 493 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 5: Ohio State and that quarterback, that running back whoever had 494 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 5: a crazy game. That's choosing when things start to bowe 495 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 5: well for you, and it is going to be interesting 496 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 5: as we get down the stretch here last what five 497 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 5: six to seven games depending on the team. What happens 498 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 5: with Luca, because again, I think no one had them 499 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 5: being this good. I don't think any most people thought 500 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 5: he'd be like ESPN not making the playoffs. That was 501 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 5: kind of crazy. But when you look at Root where 502 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 5: they are right now, third in the West, nobody's I don't. Well, 503 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 5: the Spurs still have a chance if something crazy happen. 504 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 5: They're only two and a half back from the Thunder. 505 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 5: But the Lakers being at fifty and twenty six, you know, 506 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 5: they got a couple game lead on the Nuggets. They 507 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 5: got four three and a half to be specific against 508 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 5: the timber Was you know, even the Rockets, some teams 509 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 5: that people thought would be better than them. You know, 510 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 5: they've been able to have better records, have been playing 511 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 5: great basketball, ninety one in their last ten, twelve and 512 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 5: one last thirteen. 513 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 3: So Luca has been carrying them. 514 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 5: And the best part is for them most importantly, even 515 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 5: more than Lucas scoring, defensively, they look like they got 516 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 5: some fight. There aren't the four Pistons, they ain't the 517 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 5: bad Boys, they ain't the Knicks, but dagget they're fighting 518 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 5: because that was the concern you and I would even 519 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 5: see her like, man, they just they got to beat 520 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,479 Speaker 5: you one thirty two to one to twenty seven, and 521 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 5: finally they got some fight in them, they got some 522 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 5: competitive edge. I give Marcus Smart a lot of credit. 523 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 5: He was playing great. He's been in and out a 524 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 5: little bit the last week or so. But but I 525 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 5: just think consciously to your point, there was that period 526 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 5: where people are like, oh, yeah, they're not gonna win 527 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 5: a Super A championship. They don't look that great, and 528 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 5: you kind of just dismissed him when he was a 529 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 5: preseason pick, you know, to kind but when people watched 530 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 5: him for a stretch, and it was that during that 531 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 5: time that he fell in the pack because they he 532 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 5: had the numbers. 533 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: The numbers were there, it was all the other stuff 534 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: people were watching and they were like, Okay, yeah he's scoring, 535 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: they're not winning. He got forty last night. Did the 536 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: Lakers win? That would be the question, not oh, Lucas 537 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: scored forty they won again. No, it was like did 538 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: they win? 539 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, but that but I think that was such a 540 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 5: small minute portion of the season that I think it's 541 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 5: being a little overblown. I don't you get what I'm saying, Like, 542 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 5: you can't win fifty games and that have been a 543 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 5: long crazy. 544 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,479 Speaker 1: Yes you can because they all because what's the record? 545 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: They're fifty and twenty six. Okay, so at one point 546 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: they were thirty five and twenty How many you said fifteen? 547 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 3: Right? 548 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 5: Thirty five and seventeen and five in their last twenty two? 549 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 5: Too much math right now came out earlier. 550 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: There were only nine or ten games over five hundred 551 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: before this run, so that it was a dramatic change 552 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: at that time being nine or ten games over five 553 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 1: hundred isn't that impressive? 554 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 5: It'll be interesting see what I'm saying, Like, I get 555 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 5: you there. So it was that seventy six, they got 556 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 5: what six more games? 557 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 3: So if they go in the last six, what happened? 558 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 3: I missed you? You had hit me with an extreme 559 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 3: In a minute, it's saying, oh and six did Luca? 560 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,719 Speaker 3: Did he break his ain't going? 561 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 7: Six? 562 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: And he shot twenty five percent from the field in 563 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: those six games he averaged eleven points exactly, and and 564 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: Lebron was out and Uster. 565 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 5: Now Austin Reeves ain't been early season auster reason lately. 566 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 5: But I think part of that is just Luca already 567 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 5: given you thirty, now giving you forty. 568 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 3: It's gonna take away from somebody. Uh. 569 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 5: But he's been incredible, man, and everybody keeps wondering, like 570 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 5: when is his MVP season? Every year he's always like 571 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 5: the sexy pick to win it because you know he's 572 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 5: just gonna go crazy, and you wonder if he can 573 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 5: pull something off? 574 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 3: Can he? Does he have a shot? 575 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 5: I still think it's gonna be SGA's or Whimby's, but 576 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 5: he's making a strong case this last stretch. 577 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 578 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 579 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 580 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 2: listen live. 581 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 5: We're joined by Clay Harbor, former NFL tight end NFL analysts. 582 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 5: Is somebody that Rob Parker really wanted to have some 583 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 5: previous beef with, but. 584 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 3: We couldn't figure out nothing that was cooking. 585 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 1: Remember, and it's all loved. Oh that's right, We're gonna 586 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: give you love today instead. 587 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 3: What's up man feeling? 588 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 6: I mean, there's a lot of a lot of stuff 589 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 6: in the news about my old team, the team that 590 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 6: drafted me to Philadelphia Eagles, obviously, you know some Bears talk. 591 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 6: Just got off my show on the Chicago Sports Network, 592 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 6: Talking Bears, So I'm ready to get to a boy. 593 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 3: Well, then let's start there. 594 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 5: Rob and I talked about it in our first hour, 595 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 5: big huge expos a. Jeremy Fowler puts out basically a 596 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 5: lot of sources there saying that Jalen Hurts are saying 597 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,360 Speaker 5: that he doesn't like to come. He like he wants 598 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 5: to be in shotgun all the time. He won't throw 599 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 5: across the middle. It's hard to read with his teammates, 600 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 5: so on and so forth. 601 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: Other than that, he wins a lot and Super Bowl 602 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 1: if he outplayed. 603 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes in two Super Bowls. 604 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: Everybody told us that if you stop sa Kuan, you'll 605 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: beat the Eagles in the Super Bowl. And guess what, Jalen. 606 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: They stopped sa Quan and Jalen Hurts was the MVP. 607 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: He's had six offensive coordinators. You notice the offensive line 608 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: last year won the same as it had been. There's 609 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: so many different things, and yet all they do is 610 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: pick at Jalen Hurts. I think is ridiculous. 611 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's there's a lot of blame to 612 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 6: go around, but Here's the first thing. The first thing 613 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 6: that comes to mind when I think of this, Fellas, 614 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 6: is where's this coming from? This is from inside the building. 615 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 6: This isn't from some outside be reporter. This is from coaches. 616 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 6: This has to be from scouts, from the front offense. 617 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 6: The level of information of these conversations and stuff that 618 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 6: should be kept in house, and this is them sending 619 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 6: a message to Jalen Hurts. 620 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: It is it somebody looking for excuses on why certain 621 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: things aren't going Because people can have an ulterior motive 622 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 1: as well. It ain't me, it's him, you know what, 623 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 1: I mean, to cover their ass, you know that, and 624 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: coaches do that as well. 625 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, it could be Kevin Patullo either they 626 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 6: want to talk to him about what went wrong last year. 627 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 6: You obviously have the four verse thing the San Francisco 628 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 6: ended their season, say ran just all go two plays 629 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 6: in a row and sent them home, sent them to Cancun. 630 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 6: And then they say that's what Jalen wanted to run. Okay, 631 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 6: that's something that's interesting. But to me, the biggest story 632 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 6: is where is it coming from. It feels like that 633 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 6: is someone really close to everybody in Philly because they're 634 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 6: getting how aj was feeling, how Jalen was feeling. They're 635 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 6: getting the inner workings of that team. And that's something 636 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 6: that that's got coming from somewhere very far away from 637 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 6: that building. 638 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 5: What is the issue why their offense struggle last year? 639 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 5: I mean we're not told we were talking about earlier. 640 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 5: I said, man, it was weird, and I said it 641 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 5: off seas on paper, you should have one two top 642 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 5: one two three tandems where our receiver Saquan a year 643 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 5: before goes crazy, he could have set an all time record. 644 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 5: I mean, on paper, it looked like this should be 645 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 5: another season of offensive prowess and it wasn't. 646 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 3: What would you do? What would you want to see change? Well? 647 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 6: First off, Saquon Barkley had seventeen runs of twenty plus 648 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 6: yards in twenty twenty four. The next season he has three. Okay, 649 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 6: if you're not threatening in the run game where you 650 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 6: have to get that safety down in the box, and 651 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 6: you create a lot of Manda Man situations, something the 652 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 6: article really depicted very well as Jalen Hurts has a 653 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 6: ton of success against Manda Man. Okay, and they were 654 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 6: playing him significantly higher rate of zone coverage and again. 655 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 3: Zone. 656 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 6: That's where AJ disappears. They said in the article. AJ 657 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 6: had eleven point seven yards down from fourteen point one, 658 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 6: yard per catch last year, yard per target seven point 659 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 6: three down from nine point one. And that's because it 660 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 6: was going against zone coverage. And that's something He only 661 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 6: caught two of his seven touchdowns against zone. Jalen Hurts 662 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 6: isn't great against zone. He wants to play Manda Man 663 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 6: and when you're running game, isn't making the safeties get 664 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 6: in the box and you can keep those safeties back 665 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 6: play some soft zone. That's not what Jalen Hurts is 666 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 6: good at. So there's some blame to go around. This 667 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 6: was the lowest rushing total of Jalen Hurts's career. I think, yes, 668 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 6: you want to make sure that your quarterback is healthy, 669 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 6: but when part of his identity is running the ball, 670 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 6: if you're gonna run shotgun runs, you guys know this. 671 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 6: Your quarterback has to be a threat. If your quarterback 672 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 6: is only getting four hundred yards on the season, these 673 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 6: teams aren't going to respect that. If your quarterback's not 674 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 6: a threat, you got to line up under center. You 675 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 6: gotta line up and pistol. You got to let them, 676 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 6: get momentum, the running back get momentum, have a little 677 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 6: bit more time to pick his hole, or you're completely 678 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 6: misusing these formations. Not if your quarterback isn't running, shotgun 679 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 6: runs aren't good. If your quarterback is not running, you 680 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 6: need to run under center. Jalen Hurst doesn't need to 681 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 6: run under center. And what Jalen Hurts said in the 682 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 6: article was we went into the season saying we're going 683 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 6: to be a shotgun run team. So maybe I don't 684 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 6: like turning my back to the defense. I want to 685 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 6: see the defense the whole time. Maybe this year they're 686 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 6: going to say in OTA's obviously you got Sean Mannion 687 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 6: coming in, Sean McVeigh tree, ton of motions, got under 688 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 6: center stuff, you got play actions. Give him the offseason 689 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 6: to work on this, because we know Jalen Hurts is 690 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 6: a diligent worker, and that's not something you have to 691 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 6: worry about. It's not because he's not working his tail off. 692 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: He is. 693 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 6: Trust me, I've been to Philly a lot hardest worker 694 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 6: in the room. But give him what he's going to 695 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 6: be working on, give him his homework before the quizz, 696 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 6: lett him know what he needs to do and be 697 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 6: good at and I think he will be better at that. 698 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: He is. 699 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 5: Clay Harper former NFL tight end NFL analyst all with 700 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 5: the Iacoba Robin Kelvin on a worship Wednesday. 701 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,040 Speaker 3: And we did see what do we see from. 702 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: The Bears and the idea that they obviously want to 703 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: improve on their offense. 704 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 3: They won a lot of big games. Ben Johnson talked 705 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 3: about that. 706 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: Uh, and you know the hard thing, because I think 707 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: that you can clean up stuff Clay offensively, the hard 708 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,719 Speaker 1: thing is making throws and winning games at the end, 709 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like like you can't teach that, 710 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: Like that's the part you can't teach. What Ben Johnson 711 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: could do, I think is make Caleb better going forward, 712 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, earlier in the games. But 713 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: everybody can't make those throws and win games like that. 714 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: Will you agree with that? Like everybody can't. 715 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 6: No, everybody doesn't have that DNA to where the fourth 716 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 6: quarter comes. Here's an interesting stat for you guys. In 717 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 6: the Bears second half the season, the final nine games, 718 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:52,719 Speaker 6: they had more yards in the fourth quarter combined than 719 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 6: the previous three in the first three quarters. But there 720 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 6: they had more points. And so that's telling you something. 721 00:31:59,000 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 2: Why? 722 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 6: Why is it support quarter team? What Ben Johnson has 723 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 6: been saying is he wanted Caleb at seventy percent completion 724 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 6: percentage before the season. What he had Jared Goffek Caleble's 725 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 6: at fifty eight. He was thirty seven out of thirty 726 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 6: eight qualified quarterbacks complete in the football. Obviously, touchdowns were good, 727 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 6: he was good in passing yards, but the completion percentage. 728 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 6: At the owners meeting, that was something that Ben Johnson 729 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 6: said we have to improve on. He goes, we at 730 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 6: least got to get to sixty five, and to us, 731 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 6: that's only forty more completions. I think there's eighty to 732 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 6: one hundred out there. We get to seventy, but if 733 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 6: we get to sixty five, that's forty more completions. So 734 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 6: Caleb's got to get better at the singles. He's good 735 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 6: at the doubles, the triples, the home runs, but he 736 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 6: does got to get better in the day to day 737 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 6: Ben Johnson offense. I think Ben has a plan. I 738 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 6: know DJ Moore is gone. Some people are thinking maybe 739 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 6: they're putting too much on these young guys Early Luther Burton, 740 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 6: Colson Lovelin. I disagree. If you watch the second half 741 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 6: of the Bear season. These guys came on strong. And 742 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 6: if you have them, if you have a fantasy if 743 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 6: you play a fantasy draft, these guys early, they're going 744 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 6: to have a breakout. Your Ben's already talking about getting 745 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 6: both of them the ball in space and how they're 746 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 6: going to be big players in this offense. 747 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 3: You know, it's crazy. 748 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 5: Caleb had a really good year last year, especially you 749 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 5: know on the kind of the magical plays that Caleb magic. 750 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 3: But what's weirdness? 751 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 5: Why can't they ever have a four thousand yard passer, 752 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 5: including last year? 753 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 3: You know, it's like an ongoing joke, like they've. 754 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 5: Never had a fourth die And I'm like, oh, it's 755 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 5: got to be Caleb this year, right, And they had 756 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 5: an extra game, seventeen game. 757 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 3: I'm like, then you realize, hey, he didn't even do. 758 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 3: What the heck is that? 759 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 6: I mean, they were only a few yards short. But 760 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 6: I think what you got to look at and I'm 761 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 6: a glass half full Bears guy. 762 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 2: Here. 763 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 6: They went from two hundred and eighty yard per game 764 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 6: in twenty twenty four. Obviously we had Maddi Eberfus as 765 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 6: our coach. 766 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 3: There no from Bear fans. 767 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not good. But then they went last year 768 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 6: to the sixth rink three hundred and seventy yard per game, 769 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 6: top six rinked offense. So this year and you guys 770 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 6: know this, when you come into an offseason and you 771 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 6: don't have to learn a system, learn a playbook. I've 772 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 6: done this several times. Unfortunately, I have a lot of 773 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 6: frequent fire miles because I got sent off to a 774 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 6: bunch of different teams, had to learn and playbook fast. 775 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 6: And when you're in on a team coming into an 776 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 6: offseason and you already have that base set, and now 777 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 6: instead of figuring out what you're gonna run, you're focusing 778 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 6: on how am I going to impact the defense? What 779 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:19,879 Speaker 6: am I gonna do with my eyes on this play? 780 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 6: The offense becomes second nature, and now you just get 781 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 6: to let everything go. You know where your checkdowns are, 782 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 6: you know where your deep shot is. You know when 783 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 6: you see that cover two versus the quarters where you 784 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 6: should go with the ball. So I think Caleb will 785 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 6: get better just because the second year in the offense, 786 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 6: he's not going to get worse. Ben Johnson isn't gonna 787 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 6: let that happen. They might have lost DJ like I said, 788 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 6: but I still think there's enough weapons on this offense 789 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 6: to get the job done. 790 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 3: All right, there we have a cla I appreciate you 791 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 3: as always. Man. We'll do it again, so oldell, thank you, Clay. 792 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:48,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, my pleasure, fellas