1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM paranormal 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:05,359 Speaker 1: podcast network. 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 2: Now get ready for us Strange Things with Joshua P. Warre. 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 3: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 3: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 6 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 3: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 7 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 3: to Coast AM, employees of Premiere Networks, or their sponsors 8 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 3: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 9 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 3: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 10 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: Ready to will be amazed by the wizard of Weird. 11 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 2: This is a Strange Thing with Joshua Warn. I am 12 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 2: Joshua pe Warren. 13 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: At each week on this show, I'll be bringing you 14 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: brand new mind blowing content, news, exercises, and weird experiments 15 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: you can do at home. 16 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 2: And a lot more. 17 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: On this edition of the show, Tales from the Hearse 18 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: author David Alan Voyles. This is a particularly special podcast, 19 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: and that is because the man you are about to 20 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: hear me interview was my English teacher when I was 21 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: a sophomore at Clyde A. Irwin High School in Asheville, 22 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: North Carolina. Now Here is why this is especially weird. 23 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: Mister Voyles was one of those teachers that everybody loved. 24 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: He always had a and you could tell that he 25 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: sincerely enjoyed his job. And when I was his student, 26 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: he was always truly supportive of me and my writing, 27 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: and he would invite me to read my macabre poems 28 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: and short stories in front of the class. He was 29 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: just a really warm person who actually cared about his students. Regardless, 30 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: I'm not the kind of guy who remains friends with 31 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: his old teachers. Frankly, I did not enjoy going to school, 32 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: as you can imagine. I don't like being forced to 33 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: live like normal people on a daylight schedule. But you see, 34 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: over the years, as I got older, I would hear 35 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: that mister Voyles was becoming stranger and stranger. As he 36 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:58,399 Speaker 1: was nearing retirement, he started writing and then publishing creepy 37 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: stories himself. And then next thing you know, I heard 38 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: he'd lost his mind and bought a hearse and was 39 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: driving people all over Ashville and scaring the Bejesus out 40 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: of him for fun. It seems that once he retired, 41 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: he decided to finally reveal his true identity. He's the 42 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: only teacher I know of who has done this, and 43 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: I thought, what are the chances. 44 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: That I just so happened to be a student of 45 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: this fella. 46 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: Well, of course, Lauren and I had to take his 47 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: hearse ride. And I'm joking here. He didn't actually lose 48 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: his mind. He just decided to start having fun with 49 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: his lifelong love of spooky things. He started throwing one 50 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: of the most elaborate Halloween parties in the entire area 51 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: each year. I mean the kind of thing where you know, 52 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: he must spend months prepared every year, you know, turning 53 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: his house and wooded property way up in the mountains 54 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: into I don't know, like a devilish carnival or a 55 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: haunted house. You know, various themes. Amazing job, and people 56 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: come from far and wide have a great time. So 57 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: this guy, he plays in a hearse. He turns his 58 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: house into an attraction at Halloween. And he has written 59 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: numerous books, including one of my favorites called Tales from 60 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: the Hearse. But he has a new novel about a 61 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: young Edgar Allan Poe. It's called Edgar, and he's going 62 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: to tell you about that and more. He's got some 63 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: strange stories. 64 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: You're about to hear. 65 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: But before I play this interview, I want you to 66 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: know that his house was seriously damaged recently by Hurricane Helene, 67 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: and he is currently displaced and maybe for a long time. 68 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: So in our conversation on his cell phone, you will 69 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: occasionally hear a little buffering, but not too much, so 70 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: please understand and forgive that. 71 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 2: As you know, I don't usually do. 72 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 1: Interviews on this show, but a conversation with him on 73 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: this show is long overdue. So here we go. Let's 74 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:23,799 Speaker 1: get the scoop on this mysterious man. David alan Voyles, 75 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. 76 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 4: Well, it is my pleasure to be here. I am 77 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 4: thrilled to be able to talk with you. 78 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: Isn't it funny to think that I am probably a 79 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: good ten years older than you were when you were 80 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: my English teacher. 81 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 4: That is that is a mind glory, it really is. 82 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 4: That is great. 83 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: You know, you were one of the few teachers that 84 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: everybody always loved, including me, and it's synchronistic that a 85 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: guy like you, who is so into dark literature would 86 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: end up being my teacher for a year. 87 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 2: But let's talk about your roots. 88 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: Where were you born and raised and what attracted you 89 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: to the literary field. 90 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 4: I was born in Charlotte, North Carolina, and I just 91 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 4: always had an affinity for Halloween. I loved Halloween. I 92 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 4: loved dark things, spooky things, and that I just never 93 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 4: outgrew it that that love of Halloween especially is just 94 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 4: something that I always look forward to, definitely the favorite holiday. 95 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 4: And so even when I started teaching. Of course, I 96 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 4: got my degree in literature, but I always gravitated toward 97 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 4: the dark stories and loved those. Those are just my favorites, 98 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 4: and so the classics of those, you know, worldwide, even 99 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 4: I would love to do and work Halloween into my curriculum. 100 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 4: You know. We would have semester schedules in high school, 101 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 4: of course, as you recall, but in the first semester 102 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 4: you have Octo. So that was very easy for me 103 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 4: to find some literature to do there, and I would 104 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 4: always read a spooky story and do some fun stuff 105 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 4: with that. One time I stuck a rat, a fake rat, 106 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 4: on the back of my coat jacket and read a 107 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 4: story called the Graveyard Rats and had stayed seated the 108 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 4: whole time, I remember, before the class was there, so 109 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 4: that when I got up at the end of the 110 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 4: story to write on the board. They would then see 111 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 4: the rat on the back of my jacket at the 112 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 4: Graveyard rat story. When I retired from teaching, because of 113 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 4: the Halloween and Halloween parties that we'd always had, we 114 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 4: had a theme one year of having a ghost tour, 115 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 4: and so we have a little bit of property around 116 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 4: our house and I could make scenes and I could 117 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 4: walk around the property and tell the stories about these 118 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 4: scenes that I'd made up. And after that party, I 119 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 4: was talking with my wife and my grown son and said, 120 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 4: you know, people just love that kind of thing. Wouldn't 121 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 4: it be cool to do that on a full time 122 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 4: basis and have a ghost tour? But like the walking 123 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 4: tour that you have, I thought, well, what if you 124 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 4: could do a hearse. What if you could get a 125 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 4: small number of people and take them around the haunted 126 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 4: places in Ashville and a hearse. Within a year we 127 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 4: had bought a nineteen seventy two Cadillac Hearse and we 128 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 4: had dark ride tours on the road, and you did 129 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 4: get the opportunity to take a tour with us. 130 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: As I recall, oh absolutelyely. I love the entire experience. 131 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: But you know, before we get to that was teaching 132 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: your first job or did you have jobs before that. 133 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 4: No, teaching was my first job. I went into it 134 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 4: thinking in high school. I mean from about my high 135 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 4: school years, I started thinking about being a teacher and 136 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 4: wanting to be a teacher. And this is a terrible 137 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 4: thing to say or to confess to, but often later, 138 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 4: like when they ask you, I actually got the opportunity 139 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 4: to serve as a Teacher of the Year for the 140 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 4: county and the region, But they asked you questions like 141 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 4: what inspired you to be a teacher, and I'm unfortunately, 142 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 4: it's usually this wonderful, great teacher. But I can remember 143 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 4: that in the tenth grade, I had a teach and 144 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 4: I sat in that classroom. I loved English and I 145 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 4: loved reading, and I thought, oh my god, this is 146 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 4: so bad. I could do a better job than this. 147 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 4: And that was my very arrogant sixteen year old self saying, oh, yeah, 148 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 4: I could do this. But it really did become a 149 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 4: thing with me. Is like, I wanted to teach, So 150 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 4: I knew when I went to college that I wanted 151 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 4: to get my teaching certificate and I wanted to teach English. 152 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 2: And you didn't start publishing until after you retired. 153 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 4: Right, that's correct. You After thirty years of teaching and 154 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 4: doing the ghost tours, when the ghost tours ended because 155 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 4: of COVID, I thought, well, this is a good time 156 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 4: to I'm going to go ahead and put some of 157 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 4: these why not put them together in a book? And 158 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 4: I have started out with a series of Christmas horror stories, 159 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 4: because you know, after all that Christmas really needs right 160 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 4: more horror. 161 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: So. 162 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 4: I had to do. I did a collection of thirteen 163 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 4: stories there thirteen days, thirteenth of Christmas. And I enjoyed 164 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 4: doing that and had a friend who was to start 165 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 4: doing He was already had just started helping independent writers 166 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 4: in the authors publish, so he helped publish that first 167 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 4: book and one or two after that, and that it began. 168 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 4: But it was not until then, you know, well into 169 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 4: my sixties that I started trying to publish. And I 170 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 4: just turned seventy this year. 171 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: So now getting back to the hearse and you're you know, 172 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: like you said, Lauren, and I had the honor of 173 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 1: being guessed in that hearse and what a unique experience 174 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: that was. You were a dressed in this dramatic costume. 175 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: Tell us about Virgil, this character that you created. 176 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 4: I wanted to come up with something as a character 177 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 4: and for Josh my son, who was the driver of that. 178 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 4: We started, you know, brainstorming about ideas and I thought, 179 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 4: I thought I'd liked the idea of being this sort 180 00:10:54,360 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 4: of grave digger, funeral home director teller. And then I guess, 181 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 4: going back to the roots of you know, going back 182 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 4: to Dante in the Inferno, I thought, you know, Virgil, 183 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 4: the Roman poet serves as the guide to hell for 184 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 4: Dante in that work, and I thought, you know, I 185 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 4: like the name Virgil anyway. 186 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 5: And I've always liked Ray Bradberry's story Something Wicked This 187 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 5: Way Comes and the main character there are two boys 188 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 5: in the story, but one is Jim Knightshade, and I 189 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 5: love the name night Shade and that whole idea that 190 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 5: you know, poison and. 191 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 4: Everything about that. So Virgil Nightshade was the name that 192 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 4: I took for that. And my son ended up wearing 193 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 4: the garb of a like almost looks like a grim reaper. 194 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 4: But he was, you know, tall, and he's just real big, 195 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 4: and he seemed intimidating with this half skull mask underneath 196 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 4: the cow that and he was our driver, and so 197 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 4: he was we referred to him as Sharon the you 198 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 4: know the ferrymen of the dead and Greek mythology taking 199 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 4: you across so leading people into this darkness. Sing perfect thing. 200 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: When we go back to this break, he's gonna tell 201 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: you the true weird story called Maggie and the Pig Face. 202 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 2: Hey do you like this podcast? It's free? 203 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: If so, do me a favor. Go to Joshuapwarren dot com. 204 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: There's no period after the p Joshua P Warren dot com. 205 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: Buy something cool from the Curiosity Shop, and also on 206 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: the homepage, be sure to sign up for my free 207 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: and spam free e newsletter. When you do that, you'll 208 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: instantly receive an automated email from me with some free 209 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: goodies like an online good luck charm and maybe a 210 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: money magic secret. All that and more at Joshuapwarren dot com. 211 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 1: I am Joshua pe Warren, and you are listening to 212 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coach to Coach AM 213 00:12:47,400 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: Paranormal podcast Network, and I will be right back. Welcome 214 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: back to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to 215 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: Coast AM Paranormal podcast Network. 216 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 2: I am your host, the Wizard of weird. Joshua P. 217 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 2: Warren beaming into your worm whole brain from. 218 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: My studio in Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada, where every 219 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: day is golden and every night is silver. 220 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 2: I Gietato Zume. 221 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: His website is his name David Allenvoyls dot com. 222 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 2: That's spelled d a v I d a l l 223 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 2: E n v O y l e. 224 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: S dot com. When you go there, it says dark 225 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: Tales for bright minds. Let's get back to the conversation 226 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: with horror author David Allenvoyles. When I was a teenager, Uh, 227 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: you probably recall I published a book called Speaking of 228 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: Strange and it had paranormal experiences and just weird encounters 229 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: that people from the region it had. 230 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: You published. Are you? 231 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: You wrote a story that was published in that book 232 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: called Maggie in the Pig Face. 233 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: Uh. 234 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: And I don't know if you want to recap that, 235 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: but I just want to ask you in general about 236 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: some real paranormal experiences that you've had in your life. 237 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, that story, that is so that is such an 238 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 4: odd We were living out in Leices, which in an 239 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 4: area you know, well at that time I'm in Swanna, 240 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 4: Noah now and on the other side of the other 241 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 4: side of the county, but at that time that that 242 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 4: really wasn't a count and that just enough to kind 243 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 4: of make that story a little bit shorter. And I've 244 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 4: never been able to understand it exactly or come up 245 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 4: with possible good explanation for it. But we had a 246 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 4: dog at that time, lived on about seven acres we 247 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 4: left at that time. The dogs run everybody did at 248 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 4: that point, and that dog would just travel and go 249 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 4: all over the place. But below us was someone who 250 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 4: slaughtered hogs on occasion. But we had the dog brought 251 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 4: up this hogshead at one point just in you know, 252 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 4: it's it'd been a fresh, freshly butchered kill, and we 253 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 4: were getting ready to have company, and we thought, oh 254 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 4: my gosh, this is terrible. I took the thing and 255 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 4: pitched it over the fence into the woods and it 256 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 4: tumbled down a long hill into a ravine, and thought 257 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 4: we were taking care of it. But over a period 258 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 4: of time, that dog kept bringing up this hog skull, 259 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 4: and weeks would go by, and of course you can 260 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 4: imagine how disgusting that was, until eventually it was just 261 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 4: this bleached out skull. Well after weeks had passed beyond that, 262 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 4: and I'm trying to get rid of it. Every time 263 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 4: that dog got into something, some poison or something. I 264 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 4: don't prefer not to think that somebody poisoned the dog, 265 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 4: but it did get into poison and it died, and 266 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 4: I buried it on the edge of the property. We 267 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 4: had a long curving drive that led up to a 268 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 4: ranch house up on the side of the mountain there, 269 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 4: and I buried the dog put the little toys in there, 270 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 4: like some people do with their favorite toys and things. 271 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 4: And not too long after that, one day I was 272 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 4: driving back up that driveway and making the curve back 273 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 4: to the house, looking at the grave because it'd often 274 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 4: do that. And I saw sitting there and a brown 275 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 4: patch of dirt that marked the grave, something white and 276 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 4: what in the world is that? And I got out 277 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 4: of the truck and went over to look on it, 278 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 4: and there was a hog skull sitting on top of 279 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 4: her grave. And I have no idea how it got there. 280 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 4: My wife remembers that there was another little dog that 281 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 4: would sometimes come and just sit at her grave, and uh, 282 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 4: and I, you know, it's just it's just really odd 283 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 4: to think of whatever might have happened, but it does 284 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 4: seem like, you know, Maggie in the face. Josh was 285 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 4: just my son. Josh was just a little kid at 286 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 4: that time, and he'd uh, he'd referred to that dog 287 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 4: it's called as a pig face, and so he when 288 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 4: when when it returns the second time, he was like, Daddy, 289 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 4: the pig face is back. So that was the essence 290 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 4: behind Maggie and the pig face. But aside from that, 291 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 4: I haven't had too many experiences. People often say, well, 292 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 4: you had this hearse. Did you ever have any experiences 293 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 4: with the supernatural and the hearse? Well, I've said often 294 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 4: that I'm apparently about as spiritually sensitive as a brick. 295 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 4: You know. I just don't ever since any of the 296 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 4: things that other spirit sensitives do, and I'd like to, 297 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 4: but it just doesn't seem to happen to me. But 298 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 4: I have had on occasion spirit sensitives tell me about 299 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 4: things that were happening, especially one story about the hearse. 300 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 4: If you'd like to hear that, Oh yeah, sure, when 301 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 4: we I don't know how long we'd had it. I'm 302 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 4: not sure even if we had actually begun having the 303 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 4: tours yet, but I knew of a woman and had 304 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 4: come to known her, who just convinced me even though 305 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 4: I am a skeptic, and I look at this and 306 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,239 Speaker 4: approach it the way you do. Really you always look 307 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 4: at it from the scientific point of view, as if 308 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 4: to disprove it and then see what can still be there. 309 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 4: So I'm very much a skeptic of these things, but 310 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 4: I had experiences with her that just made me feel 311 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 4: like I can't come up with any other explanation that 312 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 4: there are such things as spirits, that there are connections 313 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 4: we can have with the dead. Well, she had invited 314 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 4: her over to see the hearse, I think early on 315 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 4: after we had gotten it and renovated it and ready 316 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 4: to do the tours, and so she came over. We 317 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 4: just opened the door, she stuck her head in it, 318 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 4: and I guess I should say first, we bought the 319 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 4: hearse from a fellow in Virginia who actually was selling 320 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 4: it as a part of an estate from his brother 321 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 4: who had passed away. His brother had owned the hearse 322 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 4: and he had used it as a business and had 323 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 4: put Hi Fi equipment in it, stereo equipment, and he 324 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 4: would DJ parties. So we learned about that and we 325 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 4: had to do quite a bit of renovation beyond that, 326 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 4: because it's sat for a long time. But anyway, that's 327 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 4: the person that we bought it from. Well, without her 328 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 4: knowing any of that history, we opened the door up 329 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 4: for her to see her. She stuck her head in 330 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 4: and she said, as you recall, we had like there 331 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 4: were two rows of seats, one that ran all the 332 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 4: way down the length of the hearse and went across 333 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 4: the middle, separated from the front seat. She stuck her 334 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 4: head in the side door and she said, well, first 335 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 4: of all, let me tell you, I'm hearing rock and 336 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 4: roll music, seventies rock and roll music, especially Creden's clear Water. Okay, 337 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 4: And she said, and there's a gentleman sitting in the 338 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,719 Speaker 4: corner of where these seats that you've made very happy, 339 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 4: very pleased, thrilled with what you're doing with the hearse, 340 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 4: very very large fellow, very very huge fellow. But he 341 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 4: loves this music. Well, I didn't know it at that time. 342 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 4: I didn't know that he had done these parties. But 343 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 4: I sent another message back after this to his brother 344 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 4: who had survived, who sold us the hurst, and I said, 345 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 4: I just got to ask you a question. Did your 346 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 4: brother particularly what kind of music did he play? He said, oh, yeah, 347 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 4: it was definitely seventies music. But he was a real 348 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 4: fan of Creeden Sclarewater Uh huh. And I had seen 349 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 4: pictures of him. But I said, and your brother was 350 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 4: a pretty large man, and he said, oh yeah, he 351 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 4: was huge. So how she was able to zero on 352 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 4: those are just not things that you can coincidentally come 353 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 4: up with. That just struck me as like, Okay, so 354 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 4: I'm glad if we're going to have a haunted hearse 355 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 4: that the previous owner of the hearse was at least 356 00:20:58,440 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 4: happy with what we were doing with it. 357 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 2: Wow. 358 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: That Yeah, that is I mean so specific. When things 359 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: like that happen, you scratch your head and you say, 360 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: how could that possibly be coincidence? 361 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 4: Yeah? I know, you know, and I watch shows all 362 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,719 Speaker 4: the time. I love watching these shows. But I'm you know, 363 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 4: I'm understanding, or I'm at least skeptic enough to go, oh, 364 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 4: they could have done thus, and so to find out 365 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 4: that information or done this kind of research or whatever, 366 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 4: somebody told them that they had to tell them that 367 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 4: this was stuff that I only I knew. I was 368 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 4: the only connecting point here to those two people that 369 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 4: she had no idea who we had bought this from. 370 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 4: It was in another state. And as you say, when 371 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 4: you had those kinds of facts come up, it's that's 372 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 4: a head scratcher. It's hard to say that. Hard to 373 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 4: come up with any other kind of justific not justification, 374 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 4: explanation for it. Hard to come up with that. 375 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: And things like that just continue inspiring ideas for stories. 376 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: I mean, you've written a number of books, including your 377 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: latest novel, Edgar, and let me tell you this is impressive, 378 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: to say the least, all the way from concept to execution, 379 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: right to the last page. 380 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 2: Tell us about. 381 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 4: Edgar, I got. I had been wanting to write a 382 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 4: book about Edgar Allen Poe for decades. The thing that 383 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 4: I wanted to write, and I say this in the 384 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 4: introduction to the book, I have wanted to do this. 385 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 4: There's such a mystery about Poe's death, and everyone has, 386 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 4: you know, come up with all kinds of different possibilities, which, 387 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 4: by the way, his death October seventh, as we're recording 388 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 4: this is still that's tomorrow for us right now. That 389 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 4: death has been fascinating of how why did he end 390 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 4: up where he did? And clothes there aren't even his 391 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 4: Most people assume assumed that he was in a drunken state, 392 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 4: because that's what the people that found him thought. But 393 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 4: why was he there, Why was he not wearing his 394 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 4: own clothes? What happened to him? And I wanted to 395 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 4: write a story about that, But this book edgar. When 396 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 4: I finally came down around to sitting down to write 397 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 4: a book about Poe, that's not the story that came out. 398 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 4: For some reason, and I cannot explain it. I just 399 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 4: wanted to write a story. I thought, you need to 400 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 4: write one about if he was a boy, with the 401 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 4: premise of what if all the scariest things that Poe 402 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 4: told about in his stories were all inspired by things 403 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 4: that happened to him when he was a boy at 404 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 4: fifteen years old living in Richmond, Virginia. Wouldn't that be 405 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,959 Speaker 4: an interesting story? So that's the one I wrote. And 406 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 4: I had such fun researching things about Richmond at that time, 407 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 4: finding out things about real people in his life that 408 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 4: I wanted to incorporate into the story. His relationship with 409 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 4: his adoptive parents, John Allen and Francis Allen, what that 410 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 4: would have been like. There was quite a bit of 411 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 4: tension that he had with his adopted father. All those 412 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 4: things I wanted to work in, but I wanted to 413 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 4: work in his stories as well. So I took thirteen 414 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 4: or so of the stories and reworked them a little bit, 415 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 4: but had under the basic premise one of his stories 416 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 4: in which there is the narrator of the story, William Wilson, 417 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 4: is the story is a doppleganger for the narrator. He 418 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 4: sees himself, and this stud covers years in the character's life, 419 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 4: making his life miserable. And I said, Okay, that's going 420 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 4: to be the premise story. The Eedgar Allen Poe has 421 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 4: a doubleganger and it is making his life miserable by 422 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 4: causing these supernatural events that will go on. And I 423 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 4: can work in stories, parts of post tales into the chapters, 424 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 4: but make it one long cohesive tale when we. 425 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: Come back more on Edgar. And then also what happens 426 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: on Halloween Knight when you drive around in Asheville, North 427 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: Carolina in a hearse Well, he has kind of a 428 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: funny story about that as well. I'm Joshua P. 429 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 4: Warren. 430 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: You're listening to strange things on the iHeartRadio and Coast 431 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network, and I will be 432 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: back after these important messages, so stick around. Welcome back 433 00:25:55,800 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: to Strange Things on the iHeart Radio and Coast AM 434 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: Paranormal Podcast Network. 435 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 2: I'm your host, Joshua P. 436 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: Warren, and this is the show where the unusual becomes usual. Well, 437 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: it's time for the conclusion of my conversation with author 438 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 1: David Allen Voyles and we were just talking about his 439 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: brand new novel called Edgar. It actually, as I was 440 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: reading it, it inspired me to want to go back 441 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: and reread some of Poe's stories so that I could 442 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: further solidify the connections, which and that's one of the 443 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: great things about this book is that it sort of 444 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: opens up all of these other worlds of possibility. 445 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,479 Speaker 2: And let me just tell you, I don't know if 446 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 2: you've thought about this. I bet you have. 447 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 1: When I finished reading this, I thought to myself and 448 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people listen to this podcast, somebody out 449 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,959 Speaker 1: there needs to buy the rights to this book and 450 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: turn it into a TV series about young Edgar Allan Poe. 451 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 4: It does. I kind of picture it that way. It 452 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 4: wasn't the way that I intended as I'm writing it, 453 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 4: but it does flow that way, and it's very episodic. 454 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 4: It definitely has these because each chapter, each chapter really 455 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 4: is going, is influenced by a particular chapter or a 456 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 4: story of pose. And even though it's connected all over, 457 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 4: it takes place over one summer. It definitely has that 458 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 4: kind of episodic flow. So with a connecting theme of 459 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 4: this doppelganger, this dark Edgar that keeps appearing and making 460 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 4: Edgar Allan Poe's life miserable. 461 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's just a wonderful book, and I hope 462 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: everybody will go read this. We're going to give out 463 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 1: your website to actually go ahead and give it out 464 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: right now, what's your website address? 465 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's David Alanvoyles dot com. And I spell my 466 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 4: Alan a little different than Edgar Allen Poe. Mine is 467 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 4: a L L E end, So David Alanvoyles dot com. 468 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 4: We did have one momentous Halloween where it was the 469 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 4: only time this really happened, but being an old hearse 470 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 4: and somewhat questionable, it broke down on Halloween night with 471 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 4: customers in it, and that was unbelievable. We had two 472 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 4: or three we had made special tours for it, pulled 473 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 4: up into the Unca parking lot, which was one of 474 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 4: our first stops, and we knew we were had had 475 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 4: some questions about the Hears's mechanics at the point, but 476 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 4: we thought, no, we've already got these people book for 477 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 4: Halloween night. It seems to be doing okay, and Josh 478 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 4: gave me the signal from the front seat, kind of 479 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 4: a line across the throat and when he turned around 480 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 4: to look at him after hearing a particularly loud clunk, 481 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 4: like nope, this tour is over, and we had to 482 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 4: pull into the parking lot and tell them I'm sorry, 483 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 4: but this hearse's died, unfortunately, and they laughed and chuckled 484 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 4: ha ha haa, thinking it was part of the tour, 485 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 4: and had to say, this isn't part of the tour. 486 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 4: I'm afraid I got to call you a taxi or aneuverer. 487 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 4: And we got those folks. They were so nice and 488 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 4: so forgiving. One of the couples. We didn't realize it 489 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 4: at the time, but we did the same thing the 490 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 4: following Halloween and didn't realize that. They told me and 491 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 4: they said, you know, we were in that hearst that 492 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 4: broke down last year. But we still loved the whole 493 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 4: idea of it so much that we had to do 494 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 4: it again, and so they got they did it and 495 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 4: we got the successful right out. But I will never 496 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 4: forget that Halloween when the hearst died. 497 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: One of the nice things about being in the ghost 498 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: business is that when you screw up or something breaks 499 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: or whatever, you can just say, oh, I told you 500 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: ghosts were real this year. 501 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 2: Oh man, well. 502 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,479 Speaker 1: So that opportunity give us your website once again and 503 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: anything else you'd like to say. 504 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 2: The floor is yours. 505 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 4: The website is David allenvoyls dot com. I also invite 506 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 4: people to join me on Facebook for the Dark Corners page. 507 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 4: It's a dark Dark Corners is the name of it, 508 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 4: which is also the name of the podcast that I have. 509 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 4: I haven't been active with the podcast, but it's basically 510 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 4: got three seasons that you can listen to. Now I 511 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 4: want to come back and revisit and add to that. 512 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 4: But the first season is my mention of some of 513 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 4: my original short stories. Season two is a novella that's 514 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 4: in thirteen episodes called Which Works, and the third season 515 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 4: is the novel in thirteen episodes as well, called Wraiths 516 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 4: of the Appalachian well. 517 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 2: David, the clock has got us. 518 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: But once again, you know, I think it's absolutely amazing 519 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: that I had the honor to be your student. I 520 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: knew we had a lot in common, but I did 521 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: not realize just how much at the time. And it's 522 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: been wonderful to remain your friend after all these decades, 523 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: and I know you will continue to surprise and entertain 524 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: us with your amazing tales. So thank you so much 525 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: for being my guest. 526 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 4: It's been a thrill. It's my pleasure as well to 527 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 4: be able to talk to with you and share those 528 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 4: stories with you, and I look forward to hearing even 529 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 4: more from your broadcasts as well. 530 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: All right, once again, his website is Davidallenvoyles dot com. 531 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: Of course, you could just go to Amazon and type 532 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: in his name, and as a matter of fact, I 533 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: mean you'll find all of his books. But right now 534 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: I'm looking at Edgar when Poe's Nightmares began. I'm telling 535 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: you it's got almost five out of five. I mean 536 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: practically five out of five stars. It's like, maybe there's 537 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: a little sliver of white, but it's basically five out 538 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: of five stars. And that's really hard to get. Nowadays, 539 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: people are so mean when they review stuff. And the 540 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: paperback's only thirteen dollars ninety nine cents and the kindle 541 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: is four ninety nine. So if you like that kind 542 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: of novel, then you should check out his work. So 543 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: we'll see what he's up to in the future. Well, 544 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: I think it would be great if we just continued 545 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: this theme of tales from the hearse and I just 546 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: kept telling you tales that are creepy and spooky for 547 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: the rest of the show. And since it's my show, 548 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: that is what we're gonna do. And therefore, let me 549 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: go right to right to the emails that I get. 550 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: I get some of the most interesting emails from listeners. 551 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: Here's one from Paulette. She says, Hi, Joshua, the other night, 552 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: my husband and I were listening to your podcast. We 553 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: live in the Sierra Foothills, so we are an hour 554 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: from everywhere, so we listened to you in the car. 555 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: You were talking about your friend that passed away and 556 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: how you have a word to confirm so you knew 557 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: when it was them after they passed. Well about six 558 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: years ago. So my mother passed from colon cancer. I 559 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,719 Speaker 1: am an only child and I have three now adult children. 560 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: My mom was a paranormal sci fi fan for as 561 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: long as I can remember, and we talked about if 562 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: she ever died, she needed to let us know she 563 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: was still around. Well toward the end of mom's life, 564 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: I had to move into help her. I lived with 565 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: her about three months before she passed away at home. 566 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: The next few days after her passing were just a 567 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: blur of making arrangements and talking with family. After five days, 568 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: my youngest daughter was in the car with me and 569 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: she looked at me and said, Mom, I'm disappointed. I 570 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,479 Speaker 1: really thought Grandma was going to let us know she 571 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: was around. And I said, well, honey, I'm sad about 572 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: that too, but I guess it just as it meant 573 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: to be. We were sitting in the driveway at my 574 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: mom's house, where I was still living, and as we 575 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: backed up, my rear sensor went off and in my 576 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: video on the screen in the car, there was a 577 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: green digital block showing there was something in the way, 578 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: and we kind of looked at each other and I 579 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 1: got out to investigate because there was nothing there. When 580 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: I got back in the car, I proceeded to put 581 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: it in reverse and there it was again, that green 582 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: digital block. And we looked at each other with delight, 583 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: and my daughter said, so you think it's Grandma. I said, 584 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, and then I said, mom, get in 585 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,280 Speaker 1: the car. She went everywhere with us when. 586 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:29,760 Speaker 2: She was alive. 587 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 1: I put it in reverse again and well, no green block. 588 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,439 Speaker 1: We were excited about it and talked about it all day, 589 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,760 Speaker 1: and later that evening we were in the car again. 590 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: Back in the driveway. We were telling my cousin about it, 591 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 1: and he said, you're crazy. We proceeded to back up 592 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 1: and nothing. He said, it was just a fluke, and 593 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: I said, wow, I really thought it would happen again. 594 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: I pulled back into the driveway and before I backed 595 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,760 Speaker 1: out again, I said, mom, My cousin thinks I'm crazy, 596 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: Please show him what I'm talking about. We proceeded to 597 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: back up and boom. There were now two squares, one 598 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: yellow and one green. The square colors represent how close 599 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: you are to hitting something, and my daughter and I 600 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 1: squealed and my cousin's eyes just got big. Wow, he said. 601 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: Then we continued on our way. It happened one more 602 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: time after that, and this time there were three blocks, 603 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,760 Speaker 1: two green and one yellow. You see, my dad passed 604 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: away when I was young, and my mom's husband had 605 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 1: passed several years before, and I'm convinced this electromagnetic energy 606 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: came from them. It settled my mind about the afterworld, 607 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: and in a weird way, it comforted me because I 608 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: believe the three of them are together. It never happened 609 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 1: again after that. That's my story, and I believe glad 610 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: I could share this with you, sincerely, your f Paulette. 611 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 2: Wow, thank you, Paulette. 612 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: You know what I said, I was going to tell 613 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 1: you a creepy story that wasn't creepy at all. That 614 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 1: was very inspirational. I love that story, and you know, 615 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 1: it kind of reminds me of this idea that sometimes 616 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: you can perhaps use your car as a ghost hunting tool. 617 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of what she was doing there. 618 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 1: She was using the car as an instrument to sense spirits. 619 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: I mean, for example, my wife, Lauren is from Texas 620 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 1: and her mother used to live near San Antonio, and 621 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 1: there's this little hill outside of San Antonio where you 622 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 1: can you can park your car. Well, you don't park it, 623 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: you just put your car in neutral and all of 624 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 1: a sudden it will start rolling up hill or so 625 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: it sings and till it goes up and over some 626 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:08,280 Speaker 1: railroad tracks. And the story is that some kids died 627 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 1: when their school bus was hit on those railroad tracks. Well, 628 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 1: I have an update for you when we get back. 629 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 1: But hey, listen, look, I promised you a creepy story, 630 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 1: so I'm going to give you one. I'm going to 631 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: tell you about what one person saw upon waking up. 632 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 1: What would you do if you saw this at the 633 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: end of your bed, perched at the end of your 634 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: bed when you wake up in the middle of the night. 635 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 1: I'm Joshua PE Warren. You're listening to Strange Things on 636 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network, 637 00:37:41,880 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: and I will be right back. Welcome back to the 638 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: final segment of this edition of Strange Things on the 639 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 640 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 2: I am your host, Joshua P. Warren. 641 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 1: And yeah, the story was that this busload of kids 642 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 1: back in the day was hit by a train. They 643 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 1: all died right there on the train tracks. And so 644 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 1: now if you go there and you put your car 645 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 1: in neutral, even though you're at the bottom of a 646 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 1: hill and the tracks are at the top of the hill, 647 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 1: the car will just start rolling up the hill. 648 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 2: And we did it, and it worked about thirty feet 649 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 2: up this slight. 650 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: Hill, onto the railroad tracks and over, and it's really 651 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 1: an amazing experience. And they said that if you had 652 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 1: talcum powder and you'd sprinkle it on the back of 653 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: your car, that when afterward you get out and you 654 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,760 Speaker 1: look and you'd see the fingerprints and the talcum powder 655 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 1: of all the little kids. But we didn't have any 656 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,399 Speaker 1: talcum powder. But the fact of the matter is, I mean, 657 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: this is what's known as a gravity hill. It's actually 658 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 1: an optical illusion. It's an amazing optical illusion, though, because 659 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 1: it really does look like you're going uphill, and yet 660 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 1: somehow you're not. You're going ultimately downhill. You'll have to 661 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,359 Speaker 1: look up the physics of that. And they always said 662 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: that the reason that you would have fingerprints pop up 663 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,320 Speaker 1: from the talcum powder is that you probably have a 664 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: bunch of finger prints already all over the back of 665 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: your car, all over your trunk, and you just don't 666 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: know it because you're touching it all the time. And 667 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 1: so when you sprinkle the talcum powder on there, you 668 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: see them and it's just you combine those two effects 669 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:19,760 Speaker 1: and it's really powerful. But it absolutely works as described. However, 670 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: I just looked it up and somebody has written here 671 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 1: that in twenty eighteen that they redid the road and 672 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 1: it changed the physics of the road, so the effect 673 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 1: no longer occurs. Ha, how about that? That's kind of sad, 674 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:43,839 Speaker 1: isn't it. 675 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 2: Hey, the concept is cool that you could maybe use your. 676 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 1: Car as a paranormal instrument. Why don't some of you 677 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:57,839 Speaker 1: try out the experiment that Paulette did and let us 678 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 1: know what happens in your case. All right, Um, before 679 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 1: I tell you this scary story, I can't help it. 680 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 1: I just have a little short one here that I 681 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 1: just love. It's inspirational. I gotta I gotta squeeze this 682 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 1: one in here before I get to this terrifying stuff. 683 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 1: I got this message from a man named Utah. His 684 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:27,399 Speaker 1: name is Roy. He said, Joshua, I had terrible neuropathy 685 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 1: in my left leg, burning numbness and tingling sensations due 686 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: to nerve damage. But after wearing the Tesla Purple medallion 687 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 1: every day, the neuropathy has vanished. After many years of suffering, 688 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 1: I can now touch my left leg and it feels normal, 689 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: no burning at all, simply amazing. I am shocked at 690 00:41:54,120 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 1: the profound results. Miraculous. Thank you, Roy. I don't know 691 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 1: if you have ever experienced any kind of neuropathy, but 692 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,800 Speaker 1: that is a horrible thing and I'm just that warms 693 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,919 Speaker 1: my heart to know that, Roy, you have been helped 694 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 1: by this. 695 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 2: Thank you for this message. And you know. 696 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 1: I'm not a medical professional. I'm not out there trying 697 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 1: to sell snake oil or anything like that. But I'm 698 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 1: just reading you the email the guy got. If you 699 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,320 Speaker 1: want to experiment with that kind of thing, I believe 700 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,360 Speaker 1: I still have some of those Tesla purple pendants in 701 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 1: my curiosity shop if you go to Joshuapwarren dot com. 702 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 1: So I just had to squeeze that one in there. Okay, 703 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 1: here is a message I got from a man he 704 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 1: said I could use his full name, Joseph S. Peters, 705 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 1: regarding an incident in Houston, Texas. Going back to Texas again, 706 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 1: he said, the most frightening experience a child could go 707 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 1: through happened to me when I was four years old. 708 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 1: At the time, I was living with my mother in 709 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,799 Speaker 1: an apartment that seemed to exist between our realm and 710 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 1: a much more frightening dimension. One night, I awoke to 711 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 1: find a shadow creature perched at the end of my bed. 712 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 1: I stood up in shock while my brain was trying 713 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 1: to comprehend the beast that was staring me down. It 714 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 1: was blacker than night, with the appearance of a cross 715 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 1: between a vulture and a bat. The shadow creature spread 716 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 1: out its wings with a span of four to five 717 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 1: feet as it cried a psychic screech. The sound was 718 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 1: so loud and terrifying that I had tears fall from 719 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:44,360 Speaker 1: my eyes before I actually fainted. I woke up some 720 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 1: time later and noticed that the sliding door to the 721 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 1: closet in front of me was open. On the top 722 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 1: shelf in the corner stood the same demonic creature. I 723 00:43:55,120 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 1: jumped up, fearing for my life, begging the creature not 724 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,799 Speaker 1: to scream that awful sound. I was scared by its 725 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 1: screech and was willing to do anything not to hear 726 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,840 Speaker 1: it again. The shadow beast then flew out of my 727 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 1: closet toward me, ultimately paralyzing my body. I could only 728 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,439 Speaker 1: think this was the end, for surely this bat from 729 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 1: hell would kill me. Then, in a split second, it 730 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,360 Speaker 1: turned around and flew through the door, going out in 731 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 1: the hallway. Once it was gone, I regained control over 732 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 1: my body and I screamed out at the top of 733 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 1: my lungs for my mother, who was sleeping next to me. 734 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 1: She woke up and asked me what the problem was. 735 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,719 Speaker 1: Not knowing how to describe my experience, I told her 736 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 1: something was in our house and that it was trying 737 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 1: to get me. And my mother immediately looked through every 738 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,919 Speaker 1: room to find the intruder and returned to the bed, 739 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,440 Speaker 1: saying there was nothing in the apartment. This was not 740 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,480 Speaker 1: the first paranormal event in the apartment, nor would it 741 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 1: be the last. As for the shadow creature, I can 742 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 1: only assume it was a demon. However it appeared to me, 743 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,360 Speaker 1: and why would it appear to me, I would never know. 744 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,959 Speaker 1: Before we left that place, long before we could find 745 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 1: that out. Now you might say, well, this is just 746 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 1: coming from a four year old. 747 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:15,240 Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. 748 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,880 Speaker 1: Kids are capable of seeing things that adults cannot see, 749 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,759 Speaker 1: and I remember things very vividly from when I was 750 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:28,239 Speaker 1: four years old. As a matter of fact, I've told 751 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 1: you this before. I remember I have memories of being 752 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:38,840 Speaker 1: in the crib and not being able to talk. My 753 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 1: very first memory that I have, I mean, I'm talking 754 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:48,800 Speaker 1: to My very first memory was Cookie Monster, and because 755 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 1: my mom and dad had bought me a big, blue, 756 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 1: furry cookie Monster. And at whatever, I don't know what 757 00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,320 Speaker 1: point this happened to me, but I was a baby 758 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,359 Speaker 1: who couldn't even speak their helpless in a crib, and 759 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 1: I remember very clearly seeing Cookie Monster. 760 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 2: And I have heard that. 761 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:06,720 Speaker 1: You know, you're not supposed to be able to remember 762 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 1: that far back, but I sure could. Here's a story 763 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:16,240 Speaker 1: from Joe in Canton, Ohio. He says, my grandfather passed 764 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 1: away in the mid nineteen eighties. We sold his vehicle 765 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,719 Speaker 1: as we were selling some of his possessions. My mother 766 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 1: and grandmother signed the title, and the new owner came 767 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 1: to pick up the vehicle. They could not find the 768 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 1: car keys anywhere. The house was searched from top to 769 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 1: bottom in drawers and closets, on shelves and tables, they 770 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 1: were nowhere to be found. A few days later, my 771 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 1: mother arrived at my grandma's house and found her to 772 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 1: be distraught. My mother asked what was wrong, and she 773 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 1: would only reply that she had found the keys. My 774 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 1: mother was happy to hear the news and ask where 775 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:58,160 Speaker 1: they'd been. My grandmother replied, on the floor in the 776 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,480 Speaker 1: middle of the bathroom. We certainly would have found them 777 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 1: quickly if they'd been their days earlier. It seemed like 778 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 1: Grandpa didn't want to sell the car. And now I've 779 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 1: read this one to you before, but it's one of 780 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 1: my favorites. This came to me from Thomas Kelly, Minneapolis, Minnesota. 781 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,799 Speaker 1: He says, in nineteen ninety seven, my girlfriend and I 782 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 1: were renting a huge, beautiful old duplex in South Minneapolis. 783 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,880 Speaker 1: My girlfriend worked the night shift ten pm to seven am. 784 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 1: I would go to bed just after she left her work, 785 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,000 Speaker 1: and she would wake me in the morning when she 786 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 1: returned home. One morning, she woke me up and asked 787 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,839 Speaker 1: me why there was a butcher knife in the bathtub. 788 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 1: I told her I had no idea, and we laughed 789 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,560 Speaker 1: it off. A few weeks later, she woke me up 790 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 1: and asked why there were bone cutters in the bathtub, 791 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,360 Speaker 1: and again we laughed it off, as the kitchen was 792 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,880 Speaker 1: adjacent to the bathroom and the butcher block knife holder 793 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,839 Speaker 1: was on the counter just outside the bathroom. A month 794 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,879 Speaker 1: or so later, a similar thing happened. My girlfriend asked 795 00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:02,320 Speaker 1: me why the bone cutters were in the bathroom sink. 796 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 1: This continued for three years, probably ten times. Somehow in 797 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 1: the night the cutlery would end up in the bathroom, 798 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 1: in the bathtub or the sink, one time in the toilet. 799 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,719 Speaker 1: One night, the butcher knife was lying the foot of 800 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:19,120 Speaker 1: our bed. During our last weekend in the duplex, we 801 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:23,400 Speaker 1: threw a party and invited the downstairs tenant and all 802 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,279 Speaker 1: the tenants, and there was a couple who had lived 803 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 1: in the building for years, and when the subject of 804 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,440 Speaker 1: the landlord came up, we both went white when they 805 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,400 Speaker 1: told us in nineteen sixty eight, our landlord's mother had 806 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 1: committed suicide in our unit in the bathtub with a 807 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 1: butcher knife. Okay, let's clear the air and in the show. 808 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 1: On a positive note, take a deep breath. If you 809 00:48:48,600 --> 00:49:00,160 Speaker 1: can't close your eyes. 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