WEBVTT - Episode 267 w/ First Round (Best of 2021) 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.520 Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The Black Effect 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:19.160 and I Heart Radio and his Drinks motherfucking podcast. He's 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:22.239 a legendary queen's rapper. He'sagreed. It's your boy here, no 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:25.840 r He's a Miami hippoper lioneer, one of his dj 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:28.560 e FN. Together they drinking up with some of the 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:33.880 biggest players in the most professional, unprofessional podcast and yet 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:38.080 number one sorts for drunk fast drink mother is New year' 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:42.400 z that's time for Drinking Champs. Trink Up, Mother Up. 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:50.720 Would it could be hopeless? It should be. It's your boy. 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:53.440 What's going on as d j e F and this 0:00:53.560 --> 0:01:00.880 militating crazy wall drink chess? Yeah, y'all banks shot. I'm 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:03.360 gonna be honest. So what is your shot of choice? 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:05.840 What is your shot? I'm staying on the summer saying this. 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:10.840 You can't it's no shot. This is this is no 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:14.800 this is this is man boss. I got one to 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:18.280 night too. I'm feeling them cooling them. Come on, you 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:22.199 gotta this is the game. You can't do a shot over, 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:26.000 come on it nothing very important night, yes for me 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:28.199 to do any time you got me on my Ranjim, 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:29.920 I don't know, but I can't. We're not gonna let 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:32.280 drink chat funk up versus to nothing, but come sucking 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:36.200 it up. We're handy versus. This is you take on 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:41.680 the nix eight I'm doing. Didn't look you will make 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:43.720 not take a shot for you. I'm gonna take a 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:46.280 shot of all right, take you shot. I'll take a 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:49.800 sweep like like that'll take a shot up. Okay, you're 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:51.640 gonna keep you with that, all right? Cool? Alright, so 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:54.720 listen one of the shot shot one or the other 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:58.000 or you pig boat. You gotta take a shot. Y'all. 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:03.720 Guys are whipping out, but it's okay, him out in 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:05.520 case you I don't know. Our shows about giving people 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:07.920 the flowers, we made that. We I didn't think up 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:11.679 a statement, but I made it famous. People will say 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:13.720 we're giving people your flowers. I don't want you to 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:16.440 have to pass away or you have anything. All this 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:18.680 We're gonna tell you this why you're alive while you're here. 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:21.679 God damn it. We appreciate it. You're fucking held me 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:24.840 and my whole household down. I got five TVs and 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:31.560 no filer hold on. I'm just want to say there's 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:36.200 a normal Peace Parts Committee listening. Yes, no bullshit. You 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:39.360 guys deserving and deserving because we know a lot of 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:42.720 people committed suicide during the quarantines and all that stuff. 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:45.640 Stuff like what you guys were doing probably saved a 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:48.720 lot of lives. Well, and I'm not even talking about 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:53.600 the artist side of it. People were vitalizing careers. Did 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:55.600 you understand I'm sorry to cut you off. Do you 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:58.160 understand that I got dipped to stay in my house? 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:05.120 You want to say that again? I got fresh. He 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:06.480 went to the club in the next room, and I 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:09.200 got to cover in the next room like Nickel Persons 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:15.919 is on the night, someone was doing the same thing. 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:21.000 I didn't care if Nick see me or not. I 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:24.639 got fresh, Nigga, I was Amazon dot com. You see 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:26.440 me all that, y'all You know what I mean, Like 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:29.800 y'all held it down, Like y'all really deserve your roses, 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:32.840 but it deserve your flowers. That was a great moment 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:38.560 in hip hop, and it's from two brothers that on 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:41.640 fight and Night. Still yes, and that's the only thing 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:44.040 I said. That's the only down for because I feel 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:46.960 like Timberland is bringing Missy out tonight. I'm just gonna 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:50.640 throw that out there. Is that happening. I'm gonna tell 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:55.840 you straight up, no, No, I'm making this up. I'm 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:58.000 gonna take a shot. I just made that up. That's 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:01.880 what do you want coming up? I don't feel you're 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:03.840 gonna tell us right now, man, No, I would tell you. 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:08.480 I don't feel we need no. I like to feel 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:11.360 like you know, I ain't gonna lie buster, gone buster, 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:18.480 gonna bully one of your stages. No, I don't want no, man, 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:24.000 Come on, man, who was the illest person that you 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:25.880 told you? There was a fan of you that you 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:29.120 was like, wow, it was personal study, all right. So 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:34.000 it's a dope story. Right. So my first album, my 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:39.200 first album is not even out yet, and we're in 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:41.520 an airport. It's me and a couple of my niggers, 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:47.000 and Lauren Fishburn walked past just randomly, like we're like, 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:50.400 oh shit, fucking Lauren Trishburn. We don't have no album, 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:54.560 so we like talking to see Laurence Fishburn. He's like, yo, man, 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:59.400 he loved Lauren Frishburn. No homo. So Jim is sitting there, Jim, 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:02.600 it's like, y'all was a choice or Russ And if 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:05.200 you call him Larry. He loses his mind. He don't 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:11.159 like to be called Larry. So my man is an ass. 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:13.039 So he died, I'm in fact show and got blessed. 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:18.560 The day he like, yo, Larry, he looked to be 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:22.760 like he looked, He's like, yo, I said, what's up Larry? Ship, 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:27.359 So Lauren Fishburn stops and walks over and says, what 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:30.600 you just call me? Yes? And the airpoint he's like, 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:33.440 what did you call me? He's like, I said, what's up, Larry? 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:38.840 What's was happening? So we're like, yo, we fans this stand. 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:40.920 The third he tuned in us out. He's like, YO, 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:42.480 why are you calling me larr? He said, because that 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:45.599 should name? He said, my name is Lawrence. He said, 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:50.599 your name is Larry. Hilarious. I'll get it. Let me 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:53.479 tell you this story, so about to do research on it. 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:56.760 His name was Larry when he was young, but then 0:05:56.800 --> 0:06:00.080 after hig your learning he changed at the Lawrence, I 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:02.880 guess Larry's will and niggery, and then he did learning, 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:07.080 saying he want to be like Propa Black, the Matrix 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:13.600 and all this ship. So anyway, he like, man, fuck you. 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:15.400 He telling my man that we like yo, don't listen 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:19.280 to him, Jim that just did a scene on New 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:25.560 York Undercover as an extra and he active say, Jim 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:27.520 was like an extra New York under Camel. That's side 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:30.919 you know, no alum out he's promotion ship. So he 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:35.159 walks off. You're like, yo, why you do that? Sean, Like, 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:38.320 what's wrong with you? Like man, funk that your name 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:44.840 is Larry. So we're chilling like sen minutes later, this 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:50.320 nigga come back. It's sitting next to us. Be like, yo, man, 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:52.719 don't worry about him. He now he over here, my 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:56.400 man Sean over there, be like, yo, man, we fens 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:58.120 Jim like, I'm like, my man was just on New 0:06:58.160 --> 0:06:59.560 York going to cover. If you can help us out 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:02.640 with the little acting, a little gigg and all that ship, 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:06.440 I'm not helping y'all, And be like, what's wrong man? 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:12.280 Like you with somebody who keep calling me laughry my 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:16.040 man lean over and say your name is laughing and 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:20.440 don't ask me again? Lord fishburn, get up, get out, 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:23.160 taking his wallet out, putting my men face. What does 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:26.240 that say? My men is like, I don't care what 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:30.840 he's say. Your name's laughery, so we like your fuck him, Man, 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:34.480 I'm about to be a rapper. Snicker. My man is 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:38.880 acting to stand the third Yo. So the Laura fisherroom. Wow. 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:42.080 So he says, Yo, stop acting me for helping. Man. 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:45.200 You know what I'm saying, fun, I'm not helping y'all. 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:48.760 Just think you gotta understand. So now Jim is basically 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:53.440 begging Lord Fishburn. Now I'm like, are you fuck you laughing? 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:59.240 Get the funk out of here, like kissing your glass, man, 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:01.400 fucking matter of fact, I'm about to swing on you. 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:05.640 So like Fishburn, like you backed up. This nigga pulled 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:08.080 some gloves out of his pocket and put on his gloves. 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:11.680 So I'm like, I looked at my man team, I'm like, 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:15.440 you're about to jump this nigger. So he just looked 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:20.560 and walked off like the like a movie, like just 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:22.280 walked off into the ship. And I'm like, my man, 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:26.360 show like you an asshole? I said, I got tired 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:28.480 of kissing his ass. He was like, nah, he was 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:31.440 on the verge of snuffing me. Man, I'm just gonna 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:38.760 fall out. You funked up everything, brother, I said, I 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:40.760 can't take it no more anyway fast for it than 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:45.480 to answer your question. My man is driving my pink 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:48.760 range over one day at Halo like stuff like like 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:57.160 yeah yeah, like Fish Lawrence Lag whatever. He's like, yeah, 0:08:57.280 --> 0:09:00.000 camera pink range over. He's like yes, my man, he said, yeah, 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:03.400 So that guy love his music. Man, I'm a big 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:05.400 fucking fan of camera man. You let him know that. 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:08.040 And I'm like, Lawrence, don't even know that was list 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:12.080 in the airport like fucking six years ago that she 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:15.280 was going crazy because Nikka called you Larry. Now you're 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:17.400 a fan of my music, my nigga. Look look at that, 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:20.680 my nigga. So that's an ill person who I would 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:23.120 say is a fan who basically shipped on us and 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:26.520 told us to fucking kick Rocks and get the funk 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:28.480 out of here. Because my man was going crazy on 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:35.280 that guy, Lawrence. I was. I was scared. Now, don't 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:42.000 call him Larry. Yeah, yeah, man, you don't like Larry 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:48.959 if you want to be laurrenus. Yeah. So back to 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:53.920 the versus Um. It was a collective decision, you know, 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:59.600 although I called him with um the vibe of what 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:02.360 we should do because the deal that we had on 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:06.240 the table was amazing. The deal, it was amazing, and 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:08.880 we didn't have to move no luggage out of the house. 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:13.920 But imagine having like one of the biggest deals ever 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:18.400 and not being happy about it. Can I stopped before 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:21.320 on a second because everyone kind of thought when we 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:24.480 started to see Apple TV pop up, that's what y'all 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:27.000 was doing the deal. So so what happened is if 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:30.520 you can say it's business, it's not nothing personal. It's 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:33.200 just business. You know, shout out to Apple, shout to 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:36.040 La Jackson. We had a great time. They they they 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:39.280 you know, they supported us and helped us elevate to 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:44.000 a different level. And we appreciate all the support from everyone. 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:48.679 But that you know, we can't just only be creatives. 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:50.960 We have to be business people. Like this is the 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:54.120 music business, the creative business, and a lot of people 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:56.600 leave out the business parts when all the business people 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:59.800 are taking advantage of the creative. You see what I'm saying. 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:02.760 And so, you know, I was luckily to be able 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:06.280 to go back to school and shopping my pencil and 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:11.599 actually really lock in and and have a focus with strategies. 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:14.559 And although me and Tim didn't start versus thinking about 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:18.040 business or thinking about finances, it just happened to turn 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:20.000 into that, which is why it was so beautiful, and 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:22.599 it just it just happened, you know, the universe just 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:26.240 happened to want to just do extra things for us. Um. 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:28.120 But we were just basically having fun. But when it 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:30.679 when it started coming to the business, we had to 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:32.839 be shop as well because people started coming to you 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:35.600 with business. It wasn't like you planned that people started 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:37.720 coming to you because of the numbers just gone. We 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:40.679 turned down so many, so much, We turned out so 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:45.800 much and everybody, we turned down everything. Only the reason 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:49.800 why we turned down everything was because you know, um, 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:53.760 everybody wanted to get go to the penthouse. Like first, 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:55.480 they just wanted to just go to the penhouse. They 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:57.160 didn't even want to know the structure of the building. 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:00.760 They just knew it was a quick ride to the penthouse, 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:05.040 a quick ride with our culture, quick ride in the 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:08.240 v I p with our culture. And we're gatekeepers of 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:11.400 our culture. So we can't allow that, you understand. So 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:14.080 when it came to making this decision, I was like 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:16.880 man and I was me and timidtic kind of sense. 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:19.360 It's like, yo, I always see like one or two 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:23.040 of us getting the bags and being a part of 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:25.079 the big picture. But it's it's a it's a group 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:27.520 of us that make these apps work and that make 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:32.560 these different things for giving it the value. So my 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:36.880 thing is like, imagine if we could bring forty three 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:40.560 artists with us to go ring the bell and you know, 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:43.960 and and go public. You know what I'm saying, like 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:46.160 this is this when when when when Triller go public, 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:49.439 this would be the biggest creative public offering in the 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:52.719 history ever, ever, ever. And even the artists that we 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:56.520 gave our personal shares too, they don't even probably understand 0:12:56.520 --> 0:13:00.280 what it's gonna be yet, but we have good intents. 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:03.559 And it was like, Yo, these people started and they 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:06.080 showed up with us, and they should go all the 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:09.000 way to ringing that bell and and go on public 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:11.640 with us, And it's just what we're supposed to do. 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:15.040 We should get people used to taking kids three and 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:18.439 fifty artist because people don't know probably what you're talking about, 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:21.640 that you gave shares, your personal shares to the folks 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:26.000 that had already done vers versus up to that point, right, yeah, yeah, 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:29.960 and which is unheard of. Nobody's doing deals like that, no, 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:36.080 because you know, every artist was compensated in some type 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:40.240 of way for doing versus or just whatever. We let 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:43.640 them keep everything. We took nothing from the artists, like 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:45.640 when they get a sponsor, they keep the money when 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:47.679 they get bringing sponsors or whatever. And you see a 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:50.040 lot of things on stage, it's because me and Tim 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:52.679 agreed to let the artists eat and do what they 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:55.200 need to do towards and that happening different things than 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:57.640 that happening, you know, And they're coming out and in 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:00.680 a hard time of COVID. Of course you bring a sponsor. 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:03.080 Of course you can keep all of your sponsor money. 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:05.800 We're not taxing you on nothing. And then we come 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:08.000 back around and be like, yo, guess what on behalf 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:10.920 of Tim and Swiss? Not only are you partners and 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:14.520 versus your owner in Trailer, which is a billion points 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:18.560 something value company. Wow, you understand that's today, that's not 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:25.480 even with the I P O. Public. Yeah, but that 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:34.680 that all makes sense. Later he makes a noise for that, Tim, 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:37.040 im and be honest, I think get into the shot. 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:49.160 I'll fun with you, man. So now let me fast forward. Boom, 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:54.560 you work with Naws. You do this as and J 0:14:55.960 --> 0:15:01.040 actually have this moment against each other. Jay uses you 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:07.520 as a punch line. He says, I know who I 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:11.800 pay god Like publishing. Yeah, he said, but you weren't 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:13.920 getting paid Dog, you were getting fucked. Then I know 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:17.200 who I paid Dog, Starchily Publishing. So the story of 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:20.520 the true story about that, it's really crazy. I don't know, 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:23.520 I don't know. It's a great story. So I'm the 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:27.960 head of hr at def Jam and uh, they're about 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:33.840 to put out that Reasonables Doubt and Kareem I think 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:36.440 it was Kareem. It was either Kareem Dame and Jay 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:40.040 or Dame and j come to my office and said, hey, 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:43.120 you gotta clear this sample, this dead president sample. Take 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:46.200 care of us. I said, okay, no problem, give me 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:52.040 but just no, we're gonna have record on the publishing. 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:54.480 He was like a right cool, and I was it. 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:58.000 He gave me a check for I delivered it to Zambo. 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:02.080 But if you look at the loner notes on dead Presidents, 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:05.200 nas is one of the publishers. So I said, yeah, 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:07.680 that line can live as much as it lives. But 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:10.360 Jay don't own a piece of Naz's catalog. But Nazzos 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:13.720 and piece of Jay's catalog. And that's a fact. Though 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:17.600 we didn't know that. We didn't because we don't like 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:21.960 when He said that stas like publishing that um that 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:24.480 he was meaning that that NAS and have none of 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:27.360 his publics. No no, no, no, no no no, but 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:31.320 I have a Yeah, I have a five percent admin fee, 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:34.040 which I'm like to this day on those two albums. 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:37.360 I just make sure like things like if NAS wants 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:39.760 to do it, I just signed off. I said, like 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:43.160 for me, like when I think about being a production company, right, 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:47.480 I think there's two trains. I thought. Train one is 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:50.600 the artists ain't ship and the production company makes all 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:54.040 the money. Right. What a second train is the artists 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:55.680 ain't ship, and I'm gonna figure out how to jerk 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:58.840 the artists. That's most of how hip hop is running 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:01.760 their production companies. I had a third train of thought, 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:04.400 which was I wasn't gonna be the jew to take 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:07.760 take advantage of a black man, so I don't need 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:11.000 to get wealthy off and I don't. My checks are 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:13.480 very humble, and I'm okay with that because they're gonna 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:15.880 go for the rest of my life. You know, when 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:18.359 you think about streaming today, right, and you think about 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:24.679 all mattic Ellmatic stremes four hundred million a year to 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:28.960 this day, I get my fair share. I don't get 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:31.080 more than I deserve, I don't get less than I deserve. 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:34.960 I get exactly what the contract says, in fact, and 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:36.920 I'll keep it a book with all of y'all. Two 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:40.199 thousand seven, I get a letter from Sony. They say, oh, 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:43.359 we we overpaid you, so you're not gonna be getting 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:46.920 a check. And my lawyer goes, oh, we're gonna sue 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:50.160 and us we're not gonna let it rock. Well, we'll 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:53.760 rek cool eventually. We're really cool, and we did like 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:58.080 ten years because I don't give a fuck. What was 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:01.280 the basis of them saying they overpaid They that the 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:07.800 artist royalty that I got paid was congruent with what 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:11.040 NAS was supposed to get paid. So I essentially got 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:15.240 NAS royalties, but NASA didn't. It wasn't minus drof nazis ship. 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:18.000 They basically paid like it was like double dipping. So 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:20.840 they paid me exactly what they're paying NAS. But it 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:23.240 wasn't accurate either, because the fact of the matter is 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:25.800 NAS was that like X amount of points and I 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:28.399 was at three. So that was the only correction we 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:31.919 told them, And after they made that correction, they fixed it. 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:34.080 We kept it moving. It was done when and done, 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:37.880 but it took like ten years for me to ever 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:40.679 see another check and again. I'm okay with that because 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:45.720 to me, the ability to earn isn't about one thing, 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:48.359 right I learned a long time ago. It's not the 0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:52.160 strong who survives. It's a flexible right. So I would 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:57.040 much rather fight Mike Tyson then a yogi, because Yogi's 0:18:57.040 --> 0:18:58.920 gonna bend me up in fucking ways that I'm never 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:00.879 gonna get fixed again. At least with Mike. I know 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:03.480 when it's coming, I see the punch coming. I know 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:06.480 I'm going to get Yogi. Yoga like a yoga person. 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:10.479 Yogi the guy who's like com bending because if he like, 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:14.960 he fucking grabs you like Yogi grabs you grow and 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:17.920 he starts, he knows how to bend up. You might 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:20.679 get funked up for life. At least it Mike hits you. 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:23.440 You want be in pain, Let's be real clear. You 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:25.960 want to be in pain, but you're going to be 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:29.359 able to recover. But if if a Yogi bend you 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:32.439 in a way, your body might never recover. So I 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:34.840 say I would much rather be flexible. I much I 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:38.080 much rather be like water than be like a fucking wall. 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:41.159 But did you receive like like slack because of that, 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:42.919 because a lot of people, like I said, a lot 0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:46.880 of people took it as search on publishing. No, in fact, 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:49.720 it was the exact opposite. Whenever that fucking verse came 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:52.080 on in the club, I would get loved, like because 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:54.640 my name got mentioned. People didn't even realize what it meant. 0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:58.840 They were like, oh ship, not Jay mentioned search. That's crazy. 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:02.480 So you're sure he never got nothing bad, like even 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:06.960 from like naas campus. It's all love all the time, 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:09.720 you know, even like if you think about all the 0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:12.600 times Nasa has mentioned me on his records, there's like 0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:15.520 seven records where he mentioned like our friendship or how 0:20:15.520 --> 0:20:17.439 I did him right, you know what I mean, Like, 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:20.280 he's never once said anything bad about me because he 0:20:20.320 --> 0:20:22.720 has no reason because I treated him like a grown 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:25.280 ass man. I treated him like a professional, and I 0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:29.680 treated his music like a business, so that he would 0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:32.199 never have to worry, and his daughter would never have 0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:35.040 to worry. His daughter and my daughter same age, they 0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:37.600 were born a month apart. His daughter and my daughter 0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:47.760 never have to worry. God, there make some noise for that, Okay, 0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:52.400 So now you're dominated this guy is on the other 0:20:52.440 --> 0:21:00.560 side of the world. Guys are connected, and you see 0:21:00.640 --> 0:21:06.520 the previous of what he's capable of. I'm not sure 0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:09.640 if he's on the downfall at this time. I'm sure 0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:15.199 you can talking to Tyson's coming out of incarceration, but 0:21:15.200 --> 0:21:21.000 he's a monster. Oh yeah, this press conference happens, and 0:21:23.480 --> 0:21:31.719 in the documentary you say not backing down, all right, 0:21:31.880 --> 0:21:36.119 So in that situation, it's a situation of like, alright, 0:21:36.440 --> 0:21:41.960 we all know about Tyson, nobody knows about me. So 0:21:42.280 --> 0:21:51.600 I'm like, you're gonna make some and you know, in 0:21:52.200 --> 0:21:55.760 in my culture, it's like, you know, we say the 0:21:55.920 --> 0:22:02.760 dog that barks the loudest has no teeth. So it 0:22:02.880 --> 0:22:05.720 was a situation where like, yo, this is the first 0:22:05.760 --> 0:22:08.960 time it felt like he was deliberately trying to Yeah, 0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:11.760 he's bad. He's a bad guy in the sense of 0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:14.639 like he can intimidate people. He's intimidating a lot of people, 0:22:15.160 --> 0:22:18.359 but you don't know who he's intimidating. He's intimidating a 0:22:18.480 --> 0:22:21.960 bad a bad guy. I'm a batman in that sense. 0:22:22.240 --> 0:22:34.960 I don't take that soup time right, Yeah, loishan wan. 0:22:40.440 --> 0:22:44.560 So he knew, well, I knew what he was about, 0:22:44.880 --> 0:22:47.600 but he didn't know what I was about. You don't 0:22:47.640 --> 0:22:49.720 know where I'm coming from, nothing about me. It's like 0:22:49.840 --> 0:22:54.280 that really both situation where like, yo, he said this 0:22:54.400 --> 0:22:58.240 about me, Okay, cool, all right, he's gonna see So 0:22:58.440 --> 0:23:01.520 mentally I was here for that. I was prepared for 0:23:01.600 --> 0:23:03.760 that fight. I was looking for that fight, and I 0:23:03.920 --> 0:23:08.080 knew that he didn't know me. And mentally I'm really 0:23:08.240 --> 0:23:11.280 strong minded. And are you holding on to what happened 0:23:11.600 --> 0:23:13.720 as you all as children or you saying no, you 0:23:13.760 --> 0:23:16.040 know what that that was us as children. Actually I 0:23:16.119 --> 0:23:18.440 didn't realize what. I didn't know where it was coming from. 0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:21.240 I didn't know why he was being like this because 0:23:21.359 --> 0:23:23.720 we knew each other as when I went up to 0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:26.040 the cat skill were we were friends? You know? He 0:23:26.119 --> 0:23:28.840 says that, He says that afterwards, he says that he 0:23:28.880 --> 0:23:31.560 says he's only promoting the fight. But as a fan, 0:23:32.280 --> 0:23:34.560 I didn't take it like that. I didn't take it 0:23:34.600 --> 0:23:36.560 like he was only promoting the fight. I took it 0:23:36.680 --> 0:23:40.159 like what the fund is these two grown man? You know? 0:23:40.440 --> 0:23:42.000 This is me as a fan, This is I have 0:23:42.400 --> 0:23:45.120 no ties to anybody at this time at least still 0:23:45.119 --> 0:23:46.760 go ahead, continue let me tell you a lot of 0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:50.119 people don't realize and don't remember. Well I don't know 0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:54.919 is the fact that a lot of the promoter wanted 0:23:55.040 --> 0:23:59.600 that to be an American British thing like West Coast, 0:23:59.600 --> 0:24:02.080 East Coast, West Coast. Yeah, but it was it was 0:24:02.200 --> 0:24:04.879 more American than the British should come in, the British 0:24:04.880 --> 0:24:10.439 should come in. So we said, no, it can't be there. 0:24:10.480 --> 0:24:12.720 We don't want that type of mess. That's too messy. 0:24:13.560 --> 0:24:17.320 It's not even true. But yeah, yeah, yeah, so uh, 0:24:17.760 --> 0:24:20.440 you know it was more just um, you know, me 0:24:20.600 --> 0:24:23.280 trying to get the everyweight championship of the world, Tyson 0:24:23.400 --> 0:24:32.520