1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The Black Effect 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: and I Heart Radio and his Drinks motherfucking podcast. He's 3 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: a legendary queen's rapper. He'sagreed. It's your boy here, no 4 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: r He's a Miami hippoper lioneer, one of his dj 5 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: e FN. Together they drinking up with some of the 6 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: biggest players in the most professional, unprofessional podcast and yet 7 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: number one sorts for drunk fast drink mother is New year' 8 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: z that's time for Drinking Champs. Trink Up, Mother Up. 9 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: Would it could be hopeless? It should be. It's your boy. 10 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: What's going on as d j e F and this 11 00:00:53,560 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: militating crazy wall drink chess? Yeah, y'all banks shot. I'm 12 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: gonna be honest. So what is your shot of choice? 13 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: What is your shot? I'm staying on the summer saying this. 14 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: You can't it's no shot. This is this is no 15 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: this is this is man boss. I got one to 16 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: night too. I'm feeling them cooling them. Come on, you 17 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:22,199 Speaker 1: gotta this is the game. You can't do a shot over, 18 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: come on it nothing very important night, yes for me 19 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 1: to do any time you got me on my Ranjim, 20 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I can't. We're not gonna let 21 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: drink chat funk up versus to nothing, but come sucking 22 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: it up. We're handy versus. This is you take on 23 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: the nix eight I'm doing. Didn't look you will make 24 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: not take a shot for you. I'm gonna take a 25 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: shot of all right, take you shot. I'll take a 26 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: sweep like like that'll take a shot up. Okay, you're 27 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: gonna keep you with that, all right? Cool? Alright, so 28 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: listen one of the shot shot one or the other 29 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: or you pig boat. You gotta take a shot. Y'all. 30 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: Guys are whipping out, but it's okay, him out in 31 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: case you I don't know. Our shows about giving people 32 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: the flowers, we made that. We I didn't think up 33 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,679 Speaker 1: a statement, but I made it famous. People will say 34 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: we're giving people your flowers. I don't want you to 35 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: have to pass away or you have anything. All this 36 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna tell you this why you're alive while you're here. 37 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 1: God damn it. We appreciate it. You're fucking held me 38 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: and my whole household down. I got five TVs and 39 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: no filer hold on. I'm just want to say there's 40 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: a normal Peace Parts Committee listening. Yes, no bullshit. You 41 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: guys deserving and deserving because we know a lot of 42 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: people committed suicide during the quarantines and all that stuff. 43 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: Stuff like what you guys were doing probably saved a 44 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: lot of lives. Well, and I'm not even talking about 45 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: the artist side of it. People were vitalizing careers. Did 46 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: you understand I'm sorry to cut you off. Do you 47 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: understand that I got dipped to stay in my house? 48 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: You want to say that again? I got fresh. He 49 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: went to the club in the next room, and I 50 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: got to cover in the next room like Nickel Persons 51 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: is on the night, someone was doing the same thing. 52 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: I didn't care if Nick see me or not. I 53 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: got fresh, Nigga, I was Amazon dot com. You see 54 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: me all that, y'all You know what I mean, Like 55 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: y'all held it down, Like y'all really deserve your roses, 56 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: but it deserve your flowers. That was a great moment 57 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: in hip hop, and it's from two brothers that on 58 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: fight and Night. Still yes, and that's the only thing 59 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: I said. That's the only down for because I feel 60 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: like Timberland is bringing Missy out tonight. I'm just gonna 61 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: throw that out there. Is that happening. I'm gonna tell 62 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: you straight up, no, No, I'm making this up. I'm 63 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: gonna take a shot. I just made that up. That's 64 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: what do you want coming up? I don't feel you're 65 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: gonna tell us right now, man, No, I would tell you. 66 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: I don't feel we need no. I like to feel 67 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: like you know, I ain't gonna lie buster, gone buster, 68 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: gonna bully one of your stages. No, I don't want no, man, 69 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: Come on, man, who was the illest person that you 70 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: told you? There was a fan of you that you 71 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: was like, wow, it was personal study, all right. So 72 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: it's a dope story. Right. So my first album, my 73 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: first album is not even out yet, and we're in 74 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: an airport. It's me and a couple of my niggers, 75 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: and Lauren Fishburn walked past just randomly, like we're like, 76 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: oh shit, fucking Lauren Trishburn. We don't have no album, 77 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: so we like talking to see Laurence Fishburn. He's like, yo, man, 78 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: he loved Lauren Frishburn. No homo. So Jim is sitting there, Jim, 79 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: it's like, y'all was a choice or Russ And if 80 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: you call him Larry. He loses his mind. He don't 81 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: like to be called Larry. So my man is an ass. 82 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: So he died, I'm in fact show and got blessed. 83 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: The day he like, yo, Larry, he looked to be 84 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: like he looked, He's like, yo, I said, what's up Larry? Ship, 85 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 1: So Lauren Fishburn stops and walks over and says, what 86 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: you just call me? Yes? And the airpoint he's like, 87 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: what did you call me? He's like, I said, what's up, Larry? 88 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: What's was happening? So we're like, yo, we fans this stand. 89 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: The third he tuned in us out. He's like, YO, 90 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: why are you calling me larr? He said, because that 91 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: should name? He said, my name is Lawrence. He said, 92 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: your name is Larry. Hilarious. I'll get it. Let me 93 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 1: tell you this story, so about to do research on it. 94 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: His name was Larry when he was young, but then 95 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: after hig your learning he changed at the Lawrence, I 96 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: guess Larry's will and niggery, and then he did learning, 97 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: saying he want to be like Propa Black, the Matrix 98 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: and all this ship. So anyway, he like, man, fuck you. 99 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: He telling my man that we like yo, don't listen 100 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: to him, Jim that just did a scene on New 101 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: York Undercover as an extra and he active say, Jim 102 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: was like an extra New York under Camel. That's side 103 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 1: you know, no alum out he's promotion ship. So he 104 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: walks off. You're like, yo, why you do that? Sean, Like, 105 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: what's wrong with you? Like man, funk that your name 106 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: is Larry. So we're chilling like sen minutes later, this 107 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: nigga come back. It's sitting next to us. Be like, yo, man, 108 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: don't worry about him. He now he over here, my 109 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: man Sean over there, be like, yo, man, we fens 110 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: Jim like, I'm like, my man was just on New 111 00:06:58,160 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: York going to cover. If you can help us out 112 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: with the little acting, a little gigg and all that ship, 113 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: I'm not helping y'all, And be like, what's wrong man? 114 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: Like you with somebody who keep calling me laughry my 115 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: man lean over and say your name is laughing and 116 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: don't ask me again? Lord fishburn, get up, get out, 117 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: taking his wallet out, putting my men face. What does 118 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: that say? My men is like, I don't care what 119 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: he's say. Your name's laughery, so we like your fuck him, Man, 120 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: I'm about to be a rapper. Snicker. My man is 121 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: acting to stand the third Yo. So the Laura fisherroom. Wow. 122 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: So he says, Yo, stop acting me for helping. Man. 123 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, fun, I'm not helping y'all. 124 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: Just think you gotta understand. So now Jim is basically 125 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: begging Lord Fishburn. Now I'm like, are you fuck you laughing? 126 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: Get the funk out of here, like kissing your glass, man, 127 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: fucking matter of fact, I'm about to swing on you. 128 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: So like Fishburn, like you backed up. This nigga pulled 129 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: some gloves out of his pocket and put on his gloves. 130 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: So I'm like, I looked at my man team, I'm like, 131 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: you're about to jump this nigger. So he just looked 132 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: and walked off like the like a movie, like just 133 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: walked off into the ship. And I'm like, my man, 134 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: show like you an asshole? I said, I got tired 135 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: of kissing his ass. He was like, nah, he was 136 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: on the verge of snuffing me. Man, I'm just gonna 137 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: fall out. You funked up everything, brother, I said, I 138 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: can't take it no more anyway fast for it than 139 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: to answer your question. My man is driving my pink 140 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: range over one day at Halo like stuff like like 141 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, like Fish Lawrence Lag whatever. He's like, yeah, 142 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: camera pink range over. He's like yes, my man, he said, yeah, 143 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: So that guy love his music. Man, I'm a big 144 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: fucking fan of camera man. You let him know that. 145 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: And I'm like, Lawrence, don't even know that was list 146 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: in the airport like fucking six years ago that she 147 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: was going crazy because Nikka called you Larry. Now you're 148 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: a fan of my music, my nigga. Look look at that, 149 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: my nigga. So that's an ill person who I would 150 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: say is a fan who basically shipped on us and 151 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: told us to fucking kick Rocks and get the funk 152 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: out of here. Because my man was going crazy on 153 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: that guy, Lawrence. I was. I was scared. Now, don't 154 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: call him Larry. Yeah, yeah, man, you don't like Larry 155 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 1: if you want to be laurrenus. Yeah. So back to 156 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: the versus Um. It was a collective decision, you know, 157 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: although I called him with um the vibe of what 158 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: we should do because the deal that we had on 159 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: the table was amazing. The deal, it was amazing, and 160 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: we didn't have to move no luggage out of the house. 161 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: But imagine having like one of the biggest deals ever 162 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: and not being happy about it. Can I stopped before 163 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: on a second because everyone kind of thought when we 164 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: started to see Apple TV pop up, that's what y'all 165 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: was doing the deal. So so what happened is if 166 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: you can say it's business, it's not nothing personal. It's 167 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: just business. You know, shout out to Apple, shout to 168 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: La Jackson. We had a great time. They they they 169 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: you know, they supported us and helped us elevate to 170 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: a different level. And we appreciate all the support from everyone. 171 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: But that you know, we can't just only be creatives. 172 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: We have to be business people. Like this is the 173 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: music business, the creative business, and a lot of people 174 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: leave out the business parts when all the business people 175 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: are taking advantage of the creative. You see what I'm saying. 176 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: And so, you know, I was luckily to be able 177 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: to go back to school and shopping my pencil and 178 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:11,599 Speaker 1: actually really lock in and and have a focus with strategies. 179 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 1: And although me and Tim didn't start versus thinking about 180 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: business or thinking about finances, it just happened to turn 181 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: into that, which is why it was so beautiful, and 182 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,599 Speaker 1: it just it just happened, you know, the universe just 183 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: happened to want to just do extra things for us. Um. 184 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: But we were just basically having fun. But when it 185 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: when it started coming to the business, we had to 186 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 1: be shop as well because people started coming to you 187 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: with business. It wasn't like you planned that people started 188 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: coming to you because of the numbers just gone. We 189 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: turned down so many, so much, We turned out so 190 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: much and everybody, we turned down everything. Only the reason 191 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: why we turned down everything was because you know, um, 192 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: everybody wanted to get go to the penthouse. Like first, 193 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: they just wanted to just go to the penhouse. They 194 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: didn't even want to know the structure of the building. 195 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: They just knew it was a quick ride to the penthouse, 196 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: a quick ride with our culture, quick ride in the 197 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: v I p with our culture. And we're gatekeepers of 198 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: our culture. So we can't allow that, you understand. So 199 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: when it came to making this decision, I was like 200 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: man and I was me and timidtic kind of sense. 201 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: It's like, yo, I always see like one or two 202 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: of us getting the bags and being a part of 203 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: the big picture. But it's it's a it's a group 204 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: of us that make these apps work and that make 205 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: these different things for giving it the value. So my 206 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: thing is like, imagine if we could bring forty three 207 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: artists with us to go ring the bell and you know, 208 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: and and go public. You know what I'm saying, like 209 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: this is this when when when when Triller go public, 210 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 1: this would be the biggest creative public offering in the 211 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,719 Speaker 1: history ever, ever, ever. And even the artists that we 212 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: gave our personal shares too, they don't even probably understand 213 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: what it's gonna be yet, but we have good intents. 214 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 1: And it was like, Yo, these people started and they 215 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: showed up with us, and they should go all the 216 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: way to ringing that bell and and go on public 217 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: with us, And it's just what we're supposed to do. 218 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: We should get people used to taking kids three and 219 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 1: fifty artist because people don't know probably what you're talking about, 220 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: that you gave shares, your personal shares to the folks 221 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: that had already done vers versus up to that point, right, yeah, yeah, 222 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: and which is unheard of. Nobody's doing deals like that, no, 223 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: because you know, every artist was compensated in some type 224 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: of way for doing versus or just whatever. We let 225 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: them keep everything. We took nothing from the artists, like 226 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: when they get a sponsor, they keep the money when 227 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: they get bringing sponsors or whatever. And you see a 228 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: lot of things on stage, it's because me and Tim 229 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 1: agreed to let the artists eat and do what they 230 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: need to do towards and that happening different things than 231 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: that happening, you know, And they're coming out and in 232 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: a hard time of COVID. Of course you bring a sponsor. 233 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: Of course you can keep all of your sponsor money. 234 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: We're not taxing you on nothing. And then we come 235 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: back around and be like, yo, guess what on behalf 236 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: of Tim and Swiss? Not only are you partners and 237 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: versus your owner in Trailer, which is a billion points 238 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: something value company. Wow, you understand that's today, that's not 239 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: even with the I P O. Public. Yeah, but that 240 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: that all makes sense. Later he makes a noise for that, Tim, 241 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: im and be honest, I think get into the shot. 242 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: I'll fun with you, man. So now let me fast forward. Boom, 243 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: you work with Naws. You do this as and J 244 00:14:55,960 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: actually have this moment against each other. Jay uses you 245 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: as a punch line. He says, I know who I 246 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: pay god Like publishing. Yeah, he said, but you weren't 247 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: getting paid Dog, you were getting fucked. Then I know 248 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: who I paid Dog, Starchily Publishing. So the story of 249 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: the true story about that, it's really crazy. I don't know, 250 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a great story. So I'm the 251 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: head of hr at def Jam and uh, they're about 252 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: to put out that Reasonables Doubt and Kareem I think 253 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: it was Kareem. It was either Kareem Dame and Jay 254 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: or Dame and j come to my office and said, hey, 255 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: you gotta clear this sample, this dead president sample. Take 256 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: care of us. I said, okay, no problem, give me 257 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: but just no, we're gonna have record on the publishing. 258 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: He was like a right cool, and I was it. 259 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: He gave me a check for I delivered it to Zambo. 260 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: But if you look at the loner notes on dead Presidents, 261 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: nas is one of the publishers. So I said, yeah, 262 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: that line can live as much as it lives. But 263 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: Jay don't own a piece of Naz's catalog. But Nazzos 264 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: and piece of Jay's catalog. And that's a fact. Though 265 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: we didn't know that. We didn't because we don't like 266 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: when He said that stas like publishing that um that 267 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: he was meaning that that NAS and have none of 268 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: his publics. No no, no, no, no no no, but 269 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: I have a Yeah, I have a five percent admin fee, 270 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: which I'm like to this day on those two albums. 271 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: I just make sure like things like if NAS wants 272 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: to do it, I just signed off. I said, like 273 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: for me, like when I think about being a production company, right, 274 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: I think there's two trains. I thought. Train one is 275 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: the artists ain't ship and the production company makes all 276 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: the money. Right. What a second train is the artists 277 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: ain't ship, and I'm gonna figure out how to jerk 278 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: the artists. That's most of how hip hop is running 279 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: their production companies. I had a third train of thought, 280 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 1: which was I wasn't gonna be the jew to take 281 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: take advantage of a black man, so I don't need 282 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: to get wealthy off and I don't. My checks are 283 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: very humble, and I'm okay with that because they're gonna 284 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 1: go for the rest of my life. You know, when 285 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: you think about streaming today, right, and you think about 286 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 1: all mattic Ellmatic stremes four hundred million a year to 287 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: this day, I get my fair share. I don't get 288 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: more than I deserve, I don't get less than I deserve. 289 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: I get exactly what the contract says, in fact, and 290 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: I'll keep it a book with all of y'all. Two 291 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 1: thousand seven, I get a letter from Sony. They say, oh, 292 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: we we overpaid you, so you're not gonna be getting 293 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: a check. And my lawyer goes, oh, we're gonna sue 294 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: and us we're not gonna let it rock. Well, we'll 295 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: rek cool eventually. We're really cool, and we did like 296 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: ten years because I don't give a fuck. What was 297 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: the basis of them saying they overpaid They that the 298 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: artist royalty that I got paid was congruent with what 299 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: NAS was supposed to get paid. So I essentially got 300 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: NAS royalties, but NASA didn't. It wasn't minus drof nazis ship. 301 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: They basically paid like it was like double dipping. So 302 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: they paid me exactly what they're paying NAS. But it 303 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: wasn't accurate either, because the fact of the matter is 304 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: NAS was that like X amount of points and I 305 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: was at three. So that was the only correction we 306 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 1: told them, And after they made that correction, they fixed it. 307 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: We kept it moving. It was done when and done, 308 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 1: but it took like ten years for me to ever 309 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 1: see another check and again. I'm okay with that because 310 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: to me, the ability to earn isn't about one thing, 311 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: right I learned a long time ago. It's not the 312 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: strong who survives. It's a flexible right. So I would 313 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: much rather fight Mike Tyson then a yogi, because Yogi's 314 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: gonna bend me up in fucking ways that I'm never 315 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: gonna get fixed again. At least with Mike. I know 316 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: when it's coming, I see the punch coming. I know 317 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to get Yogi. Yoga like a yoga person. 318 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:10,479 Speaker 1: Yogi the guy who's like com bending because if he like, 319 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: he fucking grabs you like Yogi grabs you grow and 320 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: he starts, he knows how to bend up. You might 321 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 1: get funked up for life. At least it Mike hits you. 322 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: You want be in pain, Let's be real clear. You 323 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: want to be in pain, but you're going to be 324 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: able to recover. But if if a Yogi bend you 325 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 1: in a way, your body might never recover. So I 326 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: say I would much rather be flexible. I much I 327 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: much rather be like water than be like a fucking wall. 328 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 1: But did you receive like like slack because of that, 329 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 1: because a lot of people, like I said, a lot 330 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 1: of people took it as search on publishing. No, in fact, 331 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: it was the exact opposite. Whenever that fucking verse came 332 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: on in the club, I would get loved, like because 333 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: my name got mentioned. People didn't even realize what it meant. 334 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: They were like, oh ship, not Jay mentioned search. That's crazy. 335 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: So you're sure he never got nothing bad, like even 336 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: from like naas campus. It's all love all the time, 337 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: you know, even like if you think about all the 338 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: times Nasa has mentioned me on his records, there's like 339 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: seven records where he mentioned like our friendship or how 340 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 1: I did him right, you know what I mean, Like, 341 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: he's never once said anything bad about me because he 342 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: has no reason because I treated him like a grown 343 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: ass man. I treated him like a professional, and I 344 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 1: treated his music like a business, so that he would 345 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 1: never have to worry, and his daughter would never have 346 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: to worry. His daughter and my daughter same age, they 347 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: were born a month apart. His daughter and my daughter 348 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: never have to worry. God, there make some noise for that, Okay, 349 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: So now you're dominated this guy is on the other 350 00:20:52,440 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: side of the world. Guys are connected, and you see 351 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: the previous of what he's capable of. I'm not sure 352 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 1: if he's on the downfall at this time. I'm sure 353 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 1: you can talking to Tyson's coming out of incarceration, but 354 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: he's a monster. Oh yeah, this press conference happens, and 355 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:31,719 Speaker 1: in the documentary you say not backing down, all right, 356 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: So in that situation, it's a situation of like, alright, 357 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: we all know about Tyson, nobody knows about me. So 358 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, you're gonna make some and you know, in 359 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: in my culture, it's like, you know, we say the 360 00:21:55,920 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: dog that barks the loudest has no teeth. So it 361 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: was a situation where like, yo, this is the first 362 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: time it felt like he was deliberately trying to Yeah, 363 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: he's bad. He's a bad guy in the sense of 364 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: like he can intimidate people. He's intimidating a lot of people, 365 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: but you don't know who he's intimidating. He's intimidating a 366 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: bad a bad guy. I'm a batman in that sense. 367 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: I don't take that soup time right, Yeah, loishan wan. 368 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: So he knew, well, I knew what he was about, 369 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: but he didn't know what I was about. You don't 370 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: know where I'm coming from, nothing about me. It's like 371 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: that really both situation where like, yo, he said this 372 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: about me, Okay, cool, all right, he's gonna see So 373 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: mentally I was here for that. I was prepared for 374 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: that fight. I was looking for that fight, and I 375 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: knew that he didn't know me. And mentally I'm really 376 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: strong minded. And are you holding on to what happened 377 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: as you all as children or you saying no, you 378 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: know what that that was us as children. Actually I 379 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: didn't realize what. I didn't know where it was coming from. 380 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: I didn't know why he was being like this because 381 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: we knew each other as when I went up to 382 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: the cat skill were we were friends? You know? He 383 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: says that, He says that afterwards, he says that he 384 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: says he's only promoting the fight. But as a fan, 385 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: I didn't take it like that. I didn't take it 386 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: like he was only promoting the fight. I took it 387 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: like what the fund is these two grown man? You know? 388 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: This is me as a fan, This is I have 389 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 1: no ties to anybody at this time at least still 390 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: go ahead, continue let me tell you a lot of 391 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: people don't realize and don't remember. Well I don't know 392 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 1: is the fact that a lot of the promoter wanted 393 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: that to be an American British thing like West Coast, 394 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: East Coast, West Coast. Yeah, but it was it was 395 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: more American than the British should come in, the British 396 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 1: should come in. So we said, no, it can't be there. 397 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: We don't want that type of mess. That's too messy. 398 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: It's not even true. But yeah, yeah, yeah, so uh, 399 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: you know it was more just um, you know, me 400 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: trying to get the everyweight championship of the world, Tyson 401 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: trying to legends meeting. Now there comes to time in 402 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: summer jam history when you fuck summer Jam up. Let's 403 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 1: strow it out there. It's time for me to pop 404 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: a bottles. What you want you want me to let 405 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,239 Speaker 1: me hear it ghost first and then okay, little bit, 406 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: yeah sad, you know you gotta prove listen, I didn't 407 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 1: you gotta prove listen, how did you think you get 408 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: a lot of artists don't get approved, maybe more they 409 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: don't just table. So I had to make a phone call. 410 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: You know what, I'm saying, so which one you want 411 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: to go to? Goal? The goal? Okay, but you know 412 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: that this is more expensive. This is the road. Okay, 413 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: it's gonna take this because I don't want him to 414 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: feel jerks like when people see him, like why did 415 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: you pick the goal? He didn't know the people. So 416 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: I want so you still want to go pick I 417 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: only drink that one. Okay, let's go this. Okay. So 418 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: so summer jams, summer jam. So you sunk this up. 419 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: This is what was in my opinion, because in my opinion, 420 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: this is just my hunting opinion. I can see you, 421 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: my friend, so I would have told you this off 422 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: the side. What it was was the timing. It wasn't 423 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: what you said, No, it was the timing of what 424 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: you said and said in place and how you said. 425 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: And the fact is this is your headline, correct, This 426 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: is a yes. This is a female who automatically, I 427 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,479 Speaker 1: don't want to say just sensitive because he's a female. 428 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: But in this situation, you know she's a queen of 429 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: New y'all, this is New York number one station, and 430 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: you get along. What was it was it the afternoon, No, 431 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: it was the festival stage. So it was Kendrick was 432 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: about to come out on the festivals. So as part 433 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: of my way of hyping the crowd for Kendrick. You know, 434 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: I'm a wrestling fan. It's all about it's all about, 435 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: it's about what it's in wrestling. We call it cheap heat, which, 436 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: by the way, is the name of my podcast, Subscribe Everywhere. 437 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: Cheap heat mean sheep, cheap like heat. Pet about to 438 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: say you bring it back to Pets, let's go come. 439 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: So cheap heat means in wrestling, if you want to 440 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,479 Speaker 1: get the crowd hot at you, that's called heat, right, 441 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: So bad guys want to get heat. The cheapest way 442 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: to get heat is to get out in the crowd 443 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: and say the bad guy comes out in Miami and goes, 444 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 1: I can't stand Miami, I'm from New York. Whatever. And 445 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: if you want a cheap pop, the way you come 446 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: out is you're like, it's so great to be here 447 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: in Miami. These are cheap cheap and cheap hoops. I 448 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: was doing both. I was really going for a cheap 449 00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: pop because I know that the crowd that's there to 450 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: see Kendrick. When I say fuck Starships, I know the 451 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: crowd is gonna cheer for that. So it's for you 452 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: right now. Thank you for your bottles. But by the way, 453 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: I don't think we got cheat heat in hip hop. 454 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure. I don't think we do well maybe not, 455 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: You're right, I mean it ended up being expensive, I'm sure. 456 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: So I tried to pop the crowd by saying, now, listen, 457 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: the truth is I had already been on the radio 458 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: dissing starships at that point for months, right, And you 459 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: gotta realize us as artists, right when we have a 460 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: relationship with you guys, when you just the record, we 461 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 1: don't feel like we don't feel like you're dissing the record, 462 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: but like disting us. And I had no relationship with well, 463 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: it's even worse in some ways because I had at 464 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: that time. I didn't know Nikki at all. For Abril 465 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: Nick and yeah, but remember your your guilty back associated 466 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 1: well then, but remember Nicki's not even really in New 467 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 1: York that much of that time, right, She's moving around, 468 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: she's blowing up, she's still and she's hearing it from 469 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: people though that people go, So I make a joke, 470 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: right like I used to make. I used to tease 471 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: Nick you know, if you sip that I'm not an 472 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: m h so Nikki at that time. You know, when 473 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: she would do like sort of her voices, she would 474 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: go into like on Monster Scipa and I when we 475 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: do the show, we would sort of like tease that, 476 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: but not like we were shipping on it. We would, 477 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: but it really wasn't shipping on it. Like we thought 478 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: she was dope. But when her friend, when people hear 479 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 1: it and they're like, yo, the fucking Safari came up 480 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: to her, people are telling her people talk shit. So 481 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: she already wasn't working with us. And then I did 482 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: Starships and I'm like, what is this record? Blah blah 483 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: blah and twelve so people wasn't going live, so this 484 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: is this this So this is not like she could 485 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: have went and look at someone's Instagram. So people aren't 486 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: going live. Oh they're hearing It's still weird unless it 487 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: was a clip we put up. She she wasn't gonna 488 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: hear it. So and I didn't like Starships, and I 489 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: stand by that. I think history kind of proved me 490 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: right on. Even though she made a bowload of money 491 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: on it did really well, it wasn't It wasn't a 492 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: record that I liked now, I admit I did not 493 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: at the time think of sort of the implications, you know, 494 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: me being a man, being a white man who she 495 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: doesn't know and wasn't even all that established yet shipping 496 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: on you know, her record. I now realized sort of 497 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: the privilege that was built into that, but at the time, 498 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: I'm just repping for it. To me, it's hip hop 499 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: all day. And while I'm regretful about some of those situations, 500 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: let's be honest. If I wasn't the kind of person 501 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: who said ship like that, I wouldn't ever be here 502 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: right now. If you don't have enough swagger and stupid, 503 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: ill advised confidence to talk shit, you're not interesting. And 504 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: I had to show listen all the rappers who wanted 505 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: to funk me up in the first few years, most 506 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: of which I'm close with now. Present company included it. 507 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: It all came from a place of like, I just 508 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: had stupid confidence that I deserve to be here and 509 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: should have the conversation. In retrospect, I could see how 510 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: now that would be considered problematic, but at the time 511 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: I was just a guy who's like trying to get on. 512 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: I've studied the game, and I'm gonna give my opinions, 513 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: and that's what Ebro wanted me to do. So I 514 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: was just doing what I thought I was supposed to do. 515 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: But let's just be clear, all right, cool not Let's 516 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: take ad way the fact that she's a girl. That's 517 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: a good way of the fact that, um, she's a 518 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: queen of y right, that's a good way to fact 519 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: for that right now. Just the fact that it was 520 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: the headline, Yes, that's a stupid party, and it was 521 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: streaming on her website. Oh wait a minute, what so 522 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: see streaming? Like because the website. The next thing I know. 523 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: The next thing I know, I'm on the side of 524 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: the stage comes up to me where shows about to start. 525 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: Heros like, you do you say something about Nikki on 526 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: the festival stage? And I swear to god, I was like, 527 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: I didn't remember. I was like, oh, yeah, I did. 528 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: I did. I talked about starships. He was like, yeah, 529 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: she pulled out of the show, and I was like. 530 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: The next second, I go on my phone. I opened 531 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: up Twitter. I just see trending Peter Rosenberg. I was like, well, 532 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: this is not good. She's not doing the show. And 533 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: so the first thing I'm worried about naturally is my job. 534 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:05,959 Speaker 1: You know, I've only been there a few years at 535 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: that point, and I'm like, I just cost us NICKI 536 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: Minaj at summer Jam. That was fucking stupid, and you're right, 537 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: the time in place was ridiculous and I just wasn't 538 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: being thoughtful. It was just fucking stupid. Had rectified that situation, 539 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: had to apologize, right, didn't there or that was no one? 540 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: No one even considered that, you know, and this is 541 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: where hot you know listen, Ebro and Flex both neither 542 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: has a small ego either. So while while I'm sure 543 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: they might have been upset with me on some level, 544 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: though neither ever said they were upset with me, they 545 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: both just went the other way. It's like, Okay, it's 546 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: like the Brothers in Blue Leg. They said, well, that's 547 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: not it was like the Brothers Blue anyway. You know. 548 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: I think they went with like, oh, they're pulling out 549 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: that we're hot any seven, No one's pulling out on 550 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: our ship. It's summer jam. So they took that approach 551 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: of defending me, and then of course it got messy 552 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: because all young money pulled out. You know, Buster was 553 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: not happy with me. You know who I do have 554 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: a great relationship with and he was not happy. That 555 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: was one of the many times I bust. It was 556 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: on cash money at the time. Okay, and guess who 557 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: else was Kalid? So you know, people weren't happy, but um, 558 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: at the same time, everyone was cool in the long run. 559 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: You know, it took some time with Nikki to smooth 560 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: things over because you did eventually apologize to correct I did, 561 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: and she did. I watched the video again recently. She 562 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: definitely soned the living ship out of the situation. A 563 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: year later, before summer, jam Ebro sets up this whole 564 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: thing for me to go come face to face with her. 565 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: First of all, Ibro had to be there, which is 566 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if she was doing little Nicky might 567 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: have sucked you up. I'm just going it up. You 568 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: know what. It probably helped. So I went to put 569 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: my money and I just sat there one on m 570 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: with her and she just sort of, well, you intimidated. 571 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: Nicky's see, it's a little intimidate she is. Nikki is 572 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: super intimidating, and in that moment I was I was shook, 573 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: and I took my lumps and said I'm sorry, and 574 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: she said, you're not smart. You're not funny, you're this, 575 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: you're that, and honestly, not all that's true. I am 576 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: rather smart, but it's okay. I understand why you're not 577 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: feeling me. I apologized, and yeah, and then the truth is, 578 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: though I don't talk to Nicky anymore, the truth is 579 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: we had a period after that, over a couple of 580 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: years where we were actually pretty cool, Like we would 581 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: actually text and talk about music, and I would a 582 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: lot more. I want Sexton with NICKI and no, no, 583 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: that ship comes up green now. But you know, we 584 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: had a period where we were cool, and like even 585 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: the next year at Summer jam um, like we talked 586 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: on stage and I don't know, I actually felt the same. 587 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: You know, when you beef with people or have a 588 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: feud with someone, once you make up, there is some 589 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: sort of odd kinship that exists. Like I'm not saying 590 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: Nicky likes me. I don't know how Nicky feels about 591 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: me at all, but I know that at that time 592 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 1: I definitely felt some level of closeness, you know, through 593 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: some ship and you got through it and we both 594 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: and by the way, for the record, as mad as 595 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: she was at me after that whole ship, her next 596 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 1: album was her most hip hop and most successful. She 597 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 1: bodied her next album was I think the next one 598 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: was Pink Friday or was it Pink Print? I love 599 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 1: how you grabbed the phone thinking instead of thinking how 600 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 1: we used to do. It's so fucked up. It's so 601 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 1: fucked up that you are literally correct. That is what 602 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: I do now albums. At this point, you're taking credit 603 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,439 Speaker 1: for that next album. You know you're a good radio host. 604 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: It was it was she no Pink Friday, Roman Reloaded 605 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: might have been the one with starships on it, so 606 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: it would have been the next one, um, which was 607 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: um the Pink Print? Okay, um No, I'm not taking 608 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: credit and I try ef you've really developed quite the host. However, 609 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: I do think that there that that situation maybe impacted 610 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: her on to some level, and she was like y 611 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: wanting to the hip hop ship and let's be honest 612 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,280 Speaker 1: in sub consciously nicky with Barr, but we all want Rocket. 613 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 1: I imagine growing up being all from being from New 614 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: York City, you had to be fans of Jay and not. 615 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,839 Speaker 1: But at one point you was at odds with Jay, 616 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: and I mean, which one you want to talk about first? 617 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: If you if you so all right, Let's say j 618 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: J for instance, because you were at Rockefeller and this 619 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 1: is you leaving Rocket Feller or exited Rockefeller, these records 620 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,240 Speaker 1: that pop up now. But what happened was I believe 621 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: Dame was gonna make me the press the rocket Feller. 622 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 1: Now this is his office. That was just that has 623 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 1: to do with this office he was talking about earlier. No, 624 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: we just house. That wasn't the same time and he 625 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: was the president. It never really came before wishing me 626 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: being a president, being actually president. He want to make 627 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: me a president, Okay, and I don't think he talk 628 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: to j about that, you know what I'm saying. So 629 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: like when I ainked a bus it and me and 630 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: Jay Cool were just on the sky Zoom call like 631 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: a week ago. So this just stories. Me and jay 632 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: an't got no problems. We're super cool. So to by 633 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: the way, I thought, I'm gonna take it with me. No, no, 634 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. So um. Basically when I got the 635 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,320 Speaker 1: Rocket Feller, you know, I tried to ingratiate myself with 636 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: everybody because I don't know what that mean. Yeah, I'm 637 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 1: trying to be cool. Whateverybody I'm trying to say. They 638 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 1: already have something going, and I know, trying to be 639 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: cool with everybody because y'all got your own thing. You 640 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:08,800 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I don't want to come in 641 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: here and seem like I'm stepping on toes or whatever. 642 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 1: So I'm cool with everybody. You know, Hey, this down 643 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: the third and you know Jay Jay is a competitor, 644 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, So me coming there, I 645 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,320 Speaker 1: don't know this was dame situation and say something that 646 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 1: he did. So you know, um, first thing is happened. 647 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,800 Speaker 1: I bought Kate Slay up there, and I guess I 648 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: didn't know he was mad at Kase Slave because Kse 649 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: Slay must to play Ether at the time, and he 650 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: was mad at no for Ether and orders never heard 651 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: this story. Yeah yeah, I'm telling you. You'm telling you 652 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,439 Speaker 1: what happened, you guys k slect So I've heard this story. Yeah, 653 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 1: wait a minute, what you say? Run Case Lay up 654 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 1: to baseline? Yeah, okay, this is after Case Slave. He 655 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: definitely voted for Naz either. Remember this good? Yeah, So 656 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 1: board them up there because you know we're using case 657 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,280 Speaker 1: Slay the Hoholetime mixtape. So kid came up there. Boom, 658 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 1: Jay wasn't there. But as I'm leaving, Jay is in 659 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: the lobby of Baseline, so I want k to the elevator, 660 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 1: and I guess they said Jay and jay Z said 661 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 1: what's up? Whatever? So I walked back and he said, Yo, 662 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 1: you gotta be careful who you bringing around here. He 663 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: might have just slapped the ship out of case slag 664 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 1: And I'm like, wait, what's going on? Man? And you know, 665 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 1: I don't even know what's going on. He's like he's like, 666 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,879 Speaker 1: he's like, yo, just saying be careful. All right, cool, 667 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 1: this is your house. Ain't not no problem with that, 668 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It's all good. Cool. We're 669 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: building buzz up. I'm like, yo, Jay the studio. I'm like, yo, 670 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 1: we might want to hop on his record. We're building 671 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:55,399 Speaker 1: the buzz and he'll just look like, okay, that's cute, 672 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 1: Like he didn't say that, but he's like okay. I'm like, 673 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: all right, cool, cool. I don't know what's going on, 674 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 1: but whatever. So um I saw heating up, you know 675 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And he like, yo, well, seeming you know, 676 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: you could tell us some tension. So one day I 677 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,360 Speaker 1: come to the studio. You're like, Yo, it seems like 678 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:21,320 Speaker 1: it's some tension in here. Yeah to me, I'm talking. 679 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if exact words, but he says something 680 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: going on. I just want to let you know, I 681 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 1: see all niggers rocking. I ain't got no problem. Were 682 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: all good, you know what I'm saying, something like bad 683 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: Um just got a song up right now, you know, like, yeah, 684 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,800 Speaker 1: let's just do it now. And he's like, back, So 685 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: we did the song room, So I said, Yo, the song. 686 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: He know, we might could do the video. He like, okay, 687 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 1: we back to that. Cool. So that that happened. Then 688 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 1: back to all we're saying about I'm starting to do 689 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: bus moves or whatever. Because there was that. There was 690 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 1: a jay Z verse on Old Boy and you to 691 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: tell you that. So Pete Crap, nobody's fucking Pete Crap, 692 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 1: State property, nobody, PETI crack. I was gonna fun with 693 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: Speedy Crap. He had the song one for Pete Crap. Yeah, 694 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 1: that was this on myself. I put me in jewels 695 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 1: on it, taking the damn Like about the fun, He like, 696 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,840 Speaker 1: he fulfilled you to funk with stay property. I'm like, 697 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: why everything I gotta be so philly? This holmness. I 698 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,439 Speaker 1: don't think I heard the story. Pete Cracker story don't 699 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: even need to drink. It's on flag. He told the 700 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 1: story on VLAG. I already knew how I went anyway, 701 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 1: but he tells the story. So day in the studio, 702 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 1: he said he got this hot song, you know, because 703 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,880 Speaker 1: he wasn't signing State property. I was working with him. 704 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 1: He come to New York or whatever, and I was 705 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 1: gonna sign him, but Dame was like, I was gonna 706 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: sunk up ful Philly and all this ship. And I'm like, 707 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 1: so pet was was like, this is a situation. Bothyards 708 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 1: right by the way, Ye, Dame is right and and 709 00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: you were right to this is situation. But continue. So well, 710 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: he's on his own proper. But it's seeming like that, 711 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: but he's not. So he's like, I'm not signing him, 712 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 1: niggas Cam. So we did the song, so he played. 713 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 1: Pete's playing the song for jay Z whoever else in 714 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 1: the studio, And like I said, Pete, Pete Cracks story 715 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,800 Speaker 1: is on Flack. He talks about a couple of interviews. 716 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: I already knew how he went though, but we don't 717 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,320 Speaker 1: mention that other outlets. Yeah, so he's playing sorry about that, 718 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 1: So he's especially that they apologize. A couple of videos 719 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 1: he he a couple of the interviews he mentioned this. 720 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: So he says he's in the studio playing it and 721 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,760 Speaker 1: my verse come on and J say stop. It erased 722 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:45,720 Speaker 1: that ship and just erased my whole verse. So Pete 723 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:54,759 Speaker 1: calls me, he like, you're saying the original one for 724 00:41:54,880 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 1: Pete K you're on there. Yes, he in the studio 725 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 1: actually plays director. No, this is what happened. I used 726 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,320 Speaker 1: to go to Philly. I has salon in Philly. You 727 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So so one night I thought, 728 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 1: you know, check on my business. And Philly, I go 729 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 1: to a club this DJ Korey Yak I think his 730 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 1: name was, and I'm like, in the hole in the 731 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 1: wall and P D. Crack is performing in this hole 732 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:25,840 Speaker 1: in the war and the whole club is going crazy. 733 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 1: So I went up to him in Meadow, I'm like, yo, 734 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 1: what's up here? Like now you know, beans, just stand 735 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 1: the third and then I funk with everybody. You know, 736 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,759 Speaker 1: there were those with his niggas. So then a week 737 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,440 Speaker 1: or two later I went to I don't know the 738 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,399 Speaker 1: time that we go to Philly, radio station and he's 739 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 1: outside the radio station. Yeah, he's outside the radio station, 740 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 1: and he like, chill her. What's up? Man? I'm like, 741 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 1: I thought you with state property, like game ain't sa 742 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 1: Damon's there. He's like, they ain't sign me nothing. I'm like, word, 743 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 1: so that record you this, you're not send it to me? 744 00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 1: But I wasn't sending that some type of way. He 745 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 1: gave me a E D I think I had, and 746 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,279 Speaker 1: I did it and gave it to him. He came 747 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 1: and used to come to New York. So when I 748 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,839 Speaker 1: did it, Dame, it's like, yo, hold on, I said, 749 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 1: the man said, you're not signing y'all. There's nobody. Well 750 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 1: you know, we was gonna do this and was gonna 751 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 1: do that, and I'm like whatever. So then what happened 752 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 1: was Dames said, look, I guess beans and Nothing's like 753 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 1: how can this was pt cracks on me? How Kim 754 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 1: and them jumping on our record on the Philly record bed, Like, 755 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,320 Speaker 1: I ain't know you wanted to do the record. So 756 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,320 Speaker 1: Dame come to me. I guess it was a problem 757 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 1: over that or whatever. Dame like, Yo, this is what 758 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna do. We're gonna put State property on it 759 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: and keep you on it. We're gonna take you els off. 760 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I didn't take me off too, Like 761 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 1: I don't understand what's going on, why this is such 762 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 1: a big deal, Like its gonna take you els off 763 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 1: and leave you. And I'm like, nah, man, I said, 764 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,879 Speaker 1: well take me off the record too, man, And ain't 765 00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 1: no problem. You know what I'm saying. But probably it's 766 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,400 Speaker 1: an older video for that song and everything jay Z 767 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 1: heard the first and just erase my ship to Pete 768 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 1: crack erace it or shame whoever was um engineering that day. 769 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's why and energy going on, but we 770 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,959 Speaker 1: don't give a funk. But camp, I gotta ask because 771 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 1: this is very deep. Everybody's good, everybody's good right now, 772 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 1: but this is this is one facts you know that 773 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 1: that happened. You know that that if you want, we 774 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 1: could pose this interview. Pull it up on your phone. 775 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: We've got people who's paid for that. Let's go up first. 776 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,800 Speaker 1: You pull up, pull up, Carmel, Jewells and Pete crap. 777 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 1: It's just called Pete. Ain't casting calls for a minute, 778 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:53,880 Speaker 1: n ship. Yeah, but you put up pull up. I 779 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 1: don't want to break it. I don't want to. I 780 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 1: want to bring Zeke in, but I don't want to 781 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,080 Speaker 1: bring want to keep going. See if you're get on 782 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 1: not even be even better coming from that. I've never 783 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,399 Speaker 1: heard this story, so but I'm saying not the fact 784 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 1: that that doesn't exist, but the fact that the person 785 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 1: that said that Jay said to take that verse off. 786 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 1: That's real one million percent. I want to be on 787 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 1: your show making no ship confess. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you 788 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:25,840 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I mean, I know you got 789 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 1: a huge Ordians. I ain't on time. You know, like 790 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 1: I said, Jay have a different way of going about it. 791 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,239 Speaker 1: But this with Pete Crack said, he's like because he 792 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 1: wanted to give me a copy but already had a copy. 793 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 1: I'll put it on my mixtape. Thanks for joining us 794 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 1: for another episode of Drink Chance hosted by Yours Truly, 795 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 1: d J e F and n O r E. Please 796 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,879 Speaker 1: make sure to follow us on all our socials. Let's 797 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,440 Speaker 1: add Drink Champs across all platforms. 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