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Speaker 5: needs no introduction. One of the greatest athletes of all time.
Speaker 7: Uh, the greatest olympician of all time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, nine time medalists, triple the fastest person in the
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Speaker 2: This is going to be a insane lea.
Speaker 7: So let's get into this.
Speaker 5: So you really transcended the game of track and field,
Speaker 5: because track and field is not one of these sports
Speaker 5: where it's like basketball or football soccer where normally athletes
Speaker 5: aren't that big, like you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 5: it's a very niche sport. When you were able to
Speaker 5: transcend that and become a global superstar and make a
Speaker 5: lot of money, that's another thing.
Speaker 7: A lot of track.
Speaker 5: Stars don't really make that much money just from running track,
Speaker 5: but your endorsement deals anything else. So when did you
Speaker 5: see yourself as somebody that can transcend the sport and
Speaker 5: had it that? Obviously you know you're being a superstar
Speaker 5: and breaking records, but what did you think propelled that?
Speaker 2: Yo?
Speaker 4: For me, it was it was It wasn't actually at
Speaker 4: the first Olympics. It was when I was getting to
Speaker 4: my second Olympics, I'm twenty twelve, where my agent really
Speaker 4: sat me down and said, listen, if we win this
Speaker 4: next Olympics this week, could things could take off, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. We could start changing the game
Speaker 4: and doing hell of the different things. And I was like,
Speaker 4: all right, let's do it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: That's when I really started seeing the money and a
Speaker 4: lot of the sponsorships started, more sponsorship started coming in.
Speaker 4: So for me, that's when I was like, yo, yeah,
Speaker 4: let's do this, and I meant's change the game. That's
Speaker 4: why he continued us aiming I and trying to do
Speaker 4: bigger things. So twenty twelve is the London Games. Yeah,
Speaker 4: two thousand a's when you first on the scene exactly. Well,
Speaker 4: I won't go back to two thousand and four athletes
Speaker 4: because that was your first one.
Speaker 2: Ever, then you realize that this is no joke. This
Speaker 2: is no joke.
Speaker 4: So I want to talk about a little bit about
Speaker 4: what Clinton Mills went to your career, into your development
Speaker 4: into being a superstar coach.
Speaker 2: Mills, well, he changed it changed my life, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean.
Speaker 4: He knew he had a plan when we when we
Speaker 4: started working oh five, he sat me down was like, listen,
Speaker 4: we have a three year plan. We're working towards the Olympics,
Speaker 4: so we need to figure out what the problem is,
Speaker 4: what he needs to do to get better. And so
Speaker 4: we had an old plan in place when we just started,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And for me, that's what
Speaker 4: made it work because I knew exactly what I was supposed.
Speaker 2: To do or how long it would take you I mean.
Speaker 4: And it took me time to really understand that if
Speaker 4: I want to be great, I had to work hard,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So I learned that along
Speaker 4: the way because I was very talented at a young age.
Speaker 4: So I was like, my talent could take me whatever,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So after that I figured
Speaker 4: I was like, shit, my talent's not going to take me.
Speaker 2: It's not going to take me this far. So I
Speaker 2: have to put this work and if I want to
Speaker 2: get to the talking.
Speaker 5: I feel like it's very ready to have an opportunity
Speaker 5: to speak to somebody that's reached the level of success
Speaker 5: that you've had, Like I look at you look at
Speaker 5: like Michael Jordan or Floyd Mayweather or Muhammad Ali's people
Speaker 5: like that, and the average person doesn't really understand, Like
Speaker 5: they look at it and they say, okay, he's running
Speaker 5: a race. And I read somewhere it was like you
Speaker 5: make more money than Jeff Bezos per second.
Speaker 7: I'm like, that's not really fair because the race is
Speaker 7: only ten seconds. But it took him twenty years time.
Speaker 2: The races.
Speaker 7: Never so talk.
Speaker 5: About like the daily grind and like when you really
Speaker 5: start to take serious and like how many hours a
Speaker 5: day for years that it took you, Like the diligent work.
Speaker 5: I think that you had to have.
Speaker 2: Jeez.
Speaker 4: For me, I really was old oh seven winning I
Speaker 4: was like, no, if I want to really win this.
Speaker 4: I remember at the World Championships, I came second to
Speaker 4: Tyson Gay and in my mind I was ready, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. I was like, yo, I trained hard,
Speaker 4: I'm ready to go, and I came second. I went
Speaker 4: back to my coach. I was like, coach, I was
Speaker 4: really trying, and he goes, yo, you're weak. You're not
Speaker 4: going to the gym, you don't come to chain all
Speaker 4: the time, you don't sleep, and he started naming.
Speaker 2: This the stuff, and I was like shit.
Speaker 7: I was like all right.
Speaker 4: I was like next year, I'm gonna do all this
Speaker 4: and that was eight, you know what I mean, And
Speaker 4: you're seeing the.
Speaker 2: Product of eight. But it's just I train like depends.
Speaker 4: I trained there on the track and like I'll do
Speaker 4: two hours in the gym, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And then I have to do like extra stuff because
Speaker 4: I have so I have to do back workouts and
Speaker 4: and o workouts just to keep my core.
Speaker 2: My core is weak. I started getting injured, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean.
Speaker 4: So sh all I was like probably six hours a day,
Speaker 4: I mean, but it's spaced out short to them, but
Speaker 4: it's always intense, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's never just like go for a job. It's like
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So you said, Dan, as you're training in the early series,
Speaker 4: right because after you take over, there's no catching. But
Speaker 4: these the guys that you're looking at like I'm gonna
Speaker 4: pass him, Michael Johnson, I need that record?
Speaker 2: Is that is that on your wall as you as
Speaker 2: you as your building up. No, for me, I live
Speaker 2: a couple of shot. I enjoyed that, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 4: So for me, I was like, you know, I want
Speaker 4: to compete a enticeon So for me, that was it.
Speaker 4: I was like, you know, I was never thinking about
Speaker 4: records or anything. I was like, yo, I just want
Speaker 4: to beat you. That's how I am. You know, you're
Speaker 4: fascinate than me. I want to be here. So for me,
Speaker 4: when I'm training, I'm working out to be this guy
Speaker 4: or that guy or anybody. As long as he in
Speaker 4: lining up with me, I want to beat you. That's
Speaker 4: all My mentality is. I'm very confective in anything I do.
Speaker 5: So for your endorsements, because I know I made a
Speaker 5: lot of your income Puma. It's interesting because it's not Nike,
Speaker 5: it's not Adidas.
Speaker 7: What made you? Obviously when you were coming up, that might.
Speaker 5: Have been the only company I din' But once you
Speaker 5: I'm assuming you had offered from every company and might
Speaker 5: have even been offered more money. What made you want
Speaker 5: to really hold a flag for the Puma brand?
Speaker 4: To me, because that's where I start, and I mean
Speaker 4: that's where it started when I was I just got
Speaker 4: out of high school. That was the first contract I got,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, And that was the person
Speaker 4: I worked with, and we kind of just formed the relationship.
Speaker 4: Everybody in the company, you know, I mean, from the
Speaker 4: top boss down to the little guy who brings me
Speaker 4: my stuff. I knew everybody. So after a while, when
Speaker 4: Nike Adidas came, I was like, Yo, all right, nah bro,
Speaker 4: I'd rather stick with somebody I know, because if anything
Speaker 4: goes wrong, I'm sure these people are going to stand
Speaker 4: by me, you know what I mean, because we're like
Speaker 4: family now, you know what I mean. So with with Nanke,
Speaker 4: you have seen as soon as you mess up there
Speaker 4: and I've and I've really worked to put all my life.
Speaker 4: So I was like, you know what, this is the
Speaker 4: company I want to stay until I retire. And even
Speaker 4: now that I've retired, that still work with them, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. So's just a long life partnership.
Speaker 4: I can imagine the type of bags that Nike and
Speaker 4: so to that shows that how loyal are to a company.
Speaker 4: But you said early on you said put them with
Speaker 4: your first deal. But you weren't great with money, right
Speaker 4: because coming from now I have a sponsorship major one
Speaker 4: international company. You said your teammates helps you understand money,
Speaker 4: So like, who are these teammates and my team? And
Speaker 4: now my team my team for me? When I started,
Speaker 4: all I always wanted cars and just to guard and
Speaker 4: somebody closing that front, you know what I mean. As
Speaker 4: you said, when you grew up, he didn't I didn't
Speaker 4: have it, you know what I mean. So now have
Speaker 4: all his money, you just want to spend and live
Speaker 4: and get all the way you couldn't get back in
Speaker 4: the days, you know what I mean. But then they
Speaker 4: sat me down. Listen, you need to look at all
Speaker 4: these athletes showed your life, and they started naming a
Speaker 4: few athletes like yo.
Speaker 2: This guy's bro, this guy's bro, this guy's bro.
Speaker 4: Because all they do they don't think about at some
Speaker 4: point you have to retire, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: They don't think about the end product. I mean.
Speaker 4: And they kind of just educated me on what's going on.
Speaker 4: And that's all I really got smart, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. And as soon as I decided, I was like, Yo,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna retire to stay Like Yo, we need to
Speaker 4: start puttings in place. Make sure you retired, you have
Speaker 4: no problem, you know what I mean. So my team
Speaker 4: really opened my eyes to a lot of things. Surprising
Speaker 4: to see how much a lot of athletes go broy,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: From here today, in no time, I.
Speaker 4: Think you kind of set the bother and trying to
Speaker 4: feel world because it was like, yeah, we had Carl Lewis,
Speaker 4: and we.
Speaker 2: Had some prominent athletes, but nobody had done it like you.
Speaker 4: And and so my question is now, is like, when
Speaker 4: you're looking at the landscape of it and you look
Speaker 4: at the impact, do you see stars coming up like
Speaker 4: you and and having that type of confidence and that
Speaker 4: level of business added from Jamaica.
Speaker 2: Well for many well Jamaica for sure.
Speaker 4: In Jamaica, I think right now, the cop guys we have,
Speaker 4: we have a lot of time, but a lot of
Speaker 4: these guys don't the determination and the work drive they
Speaker 4: don't have, you know what I mean. Everybody wants to
Speaker 4: be great, but they don't know what it takes, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. I've seen I've seen in my
Speaker 4: own two eyes, bro like athletes that are so talented
Speaker 4: and I go, yeah, this guy's gonna be great, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, But the work ethic when they
Speaker 4: come to the track that I'm tired today.
Speaker 2: My answerings hurting. It's always excuses, excuses.
Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, you can't make you can't make it
Speaker 4: if you're going to find excuse every day, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean? And I always said to them, listen,
Speaker 4: I come on every day. I think I'm tired, but
Speaker 4: I know what it takes. So I come here and
Speaker 4: I work hard every day and no mind not push myself.
Speaker 4: I mean, so right now there's this at least, But
Speaker 4: who wants it? That's a question, you know, when you
Speaker 4: guys race this is I always change my mind. The
Speaker 4: race is are sponsored by companies, But is there a
Speaker 4: prize money when you win the race too, because I
Speaker 4: know a lot of people make their money sponsorships. But
Speaker 4: like when you win an Olympic gold, is it the
Speaker 4: look and the doorsems come from winning the goal or
Speaker 4: is there an actually cash prize for doing nothing?
Speaker 2: So the World Championship comes to the cash prize.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, so you if you win or you break
Speaker 4: the world record, you get a cash prize, you.
Speaker 2: Get paid.
Speaker 4: But at the Olympics it's just it's just a glory,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And I think it comes
Speaker 4: because if you're in the Olympics, then sponsorship, so you
Speaker 4: still get paid, but not like the World Championships.
Speaker 7: And that was the big thing. It was supposed to
Speaker 7: be amateur.
Speaker 5: And that's why for a long time NBA players or
Speaker 5: professional athletes, because it's supposed to be all for amateurs.
Speaker 7: But it's like that was so stupid, Like obviously it's
Speaker 7: not amateurs. You got the best athletes world.
Speaker 4: It's like it's still stupid though it's still really simple
Speaker 4: to know that you don't get paid for the Olympics.
Speaker 4: We talked about a few athletes are like yo, this boy.
Speaker 4: I was like, you know what I mean, in my
Speaker 4: time at least we were talking about.
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm not doing that.
Speaker 5: That's crazy, like you said, I mean, it's coverage all
Speaker 5: over the.
Speaker 2: World, exactly, sponsorship and they get paid.
Speaker 5: And so there's money that's coming into the Olympics, a
Speaker 5: lot of money with Olympics without athletes.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of money coming in to I'm the
Speaker 4: Olympics because they're sponsors and the figures that they around
Speaker 4: sponsored Olympics because it goes worldwide, I mean, and there's
Speaker 4: so much events and exactly, so they get paid.
Speaker 2: We don't get paid, but they get paid, like the
Speaker 2: bow and the college.
Speaker 4: What I'm just saying, right right right, there's a lot
Speaker 4: of money that used to come in.
Speaker 2: No one to get paid.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's what I'm saying like the Super Bowl,
Speaker 4: like we talked about the second episode, it was like
Speaker 4: people pay for their halftime performance and you don't get
Speaker 4: paid for doing it.
Speaker 2: But the look at one point one hundred million people watching,
Speaker 2: you will come for that.
Speaker 5: But let's talk about this because if you're not like
Speaker 5: a track and field you might not understand the dynamics
Speaker 5: about work. So the Diamond League first, the World Championships,
Speaker 5: So can you tell you the Diamond gets people that.
Speaker 4: So dominantly is just like football, like a random football game,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, like the NFL game, So
Speaker 4: every Sunday have a normal football game.
Speaker 2: So Dominantly is like that. As you go, yeah, that's
Speaker 2: in Europe.
Speaker 4: It's a different places they have, like say fourteen and
Speaker 4: it's in different places of the work, so different time
Speaker 4: of the year and stuff like So you just go,
Speaker 4: you compete and you get prize money and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: And then the World Championship is like when you compete
Speaker 4: with your country, you know what I mean, It's similar
Speaker 4: to the but but it's just for track and field.
Speaker 5: So but the Diamondleague you make way more money if
Speaker 5: you win.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, No, the World Chap if you are right,
Speaker 4: So you get prize money, which is standard, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, But it depends on who you are.
Speaker 2: You get appearance feed.
Speaker 4: I mean, so if you're a Me or Shelley and Fraserer,
Speaker 4: Tyson Gear or whatever, they pay you a certain money.
Speaker 4: Everybody price is different, you know what I mean, because
Speaker 4: who's drawing the crowd, that's what they pay you for.
Speaker 4: So I'm showing them the cool saying it's coming, it's
Speaker 4: spread out, it's going to be full, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. But the regular guys come in, they give
Speaker 4: you less money. So it's like, exactly.
Speaker 7: You might be worth a million dollars, somebody else might
Speaker 7: be worth.
Speaker 2: One hundred thousands the entirety exactly. That doesn't go by race.
Speaker 4: So like when you do the one hundred to surprised
Speaker 4: two hundred four by one and they are splitting that
Speaker 4: four ways out of that work, yeah, four by ones.
Speaker 4: You don't need have four by ones. In the domin league,
Speaker 4: it's always individual races like one hundred meters two hundred
Speaker 4: might be fifteen undred, but every dominant legue to trying
Speaker 4: to mix it up and do different races and different dominague.
Speaker 5: So it's not the same thing. So like you are,
Speaker 5: you know, at anomaly because you're so successful. But I
Speaker 5: assuming most track athletes aren't really making that much money.
Speaker 5: So how do you what do you think a solution
Speaker 5: to that can be to make more profitable.
Speaker 2: We have talked about this a lot.
Speaker 4: It needs to change the format of track and field,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, because it's not excited. If
Speaker 4: you could get it like soccer, or you guys call
Speaker 4: it like soccer, you know what I mean. Where is
Speaker 4: a team where you own a team and then you transfer,
Speaker 4: then it's to be exciting because then you run heavery
Speaker 4: other week and it's like a team like Jamaican team
Speaker 4: is gonna win. So people look forward to seeing and
Speaker 4: support the team. But it's just individuals, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. And I love these guys. They don't have
Speaker 4: the energy and the flair and fun, so it's kind
Speaker 4: of boring.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: But you need to build the sports to the point
Speaker 4: where people want to watch it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And I feel like if they really do it like
Speaker 4: of soccer team type of shit, it'd be good. Did
Speaker 4: you go in because when you're talking about making it
Speaker 4: fun and having flair, you went into it doing that,
Speaker 4: having the lighting bold and doing the eyebrow raise and
Speaker 4: dancing and yeah, I was always something I've always done,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. If you watch me back
Speaker 4: in the days when I want were Juna's here, a
Speaker 4: salute to the crowd and everything, it's just a vibe
Speaker 4: just what you know, I mean, just why I'm as
Speaker 4: a person that I just keep doing that, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean?
Speaker 2: But I just love it.
Speaker 4: And after a while I saw people like they really
Speaker 4: enjoyed me performance.
Speaker 2: Let's do this and.
Speaker 4: It's the proudest thing because like when you see you
Speaker 4: doing this and like being in America but knowing like
Speaker 4: the heritage is making.
Speaker 2: I was about to smoke them. They'd be like, what
Speaker 2: do you mean now?
Speaker 5: Like that out well, but that's part of branding too though,
Speaker 5: It's like it made you bigger. Like we interviewed Shack,
Speaker 5: he was like he understood that he had to be
Speaker 5: bigger than just a basketball player.
Speaker 7: That's why a lot of the commercial and now he
Speaker 7: became Shack.
Speaker 5: So I was like, when I see you're doing like
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying this morning, just running a race,
Speaker 5: like now you're you're a superstar from all the other
Speaker 5: stuff that you do.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to explain to a lot of people that's
Speaker 4: the same to it, Like, bro, yeah I run fast,
Speaker 4: but people love my personality of who I am. This
Speaker 4: is why I make the money, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: because a lot of people running fast before me, but
Speaker 4: I brought my personality with me. That that's how people
Speaker 4: are like, oh my god, it's pretty cool. I like you,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: They want to get to know you and talk to
Speaker 2: you and and vibe you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And I've explained to a lot of these athletes, but
Speaker 4: a lot they don't get it, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah sometimes.
Speaker 5: So let's talk about this restaurant business. So you're a
Speaker 5: restaurant to a were in your restaurant right now, tracks
Speaker 5: and records. So I was reading you actually telling us
Speaker 5: that the goal is to actually expand this. So how
Speaker 5: did you get started in the restaurant business and how
Speaker 5: has it been going since?
Speaker 7: You know obviously Corona.
Speaker 4: Most of my my things is like the person's approach
Speaker 4: me there, the k approach man. They're like, yo, would
Speaker 4: you be cool to be in the restaurant? I was like, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, that's something good to happen,
Speaker 4: you know. I mean that's how it really got started.
Speaker 4: And then when we got this one, people was coming
Speaker 4: there like yo, I love this. You should should do
Speaker 4: more and do it to around the island. So we
Speaker 4: got one the old and then we have wanted Montego
Speaker 4: and then people are like, yo, you should take it overseas,
Speaker 4: and then we started franchising, so we didn't want to Dondon.
Speaker 4: But then after that we started talking to other people.
Speaker 4: Then Corona started and then he kind of just still
Speaker 4: ship down. But it's going.
Speaker 8: Good because what came about here. Listen to New York
Speaker 8: Brooklyn specific bros. I've talked to the one about coming
Speaker 8: to America. So if you're asking, yes, we did spoke.
Speaker 5: To That's interesting because it's like I feel like Jamaican
Speaker 5: people live in Jamaica. Obviously they live in Brooklyn, they
Speaker 5: live in Toronto, Canada, and they live in London. Yea,
Speaker 5: that's like four places ready in Florida. Oh, so it
Speaker 5: is the plan to like really take over those different Toronto.
Speaker 4: Over because we were supposed to get one time. That's
Speaker 4: the other person that we were talking to. But as
Speaker 4: I said, as soon as Corona, everything got shut down,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But it's all about who
Speaker 4: because it's franchise. Anybody wants, they can hit us up
Speaker 4: and we figure it out, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So I'm just trying to put it out there just
Speaker 4: to be great, and I mean they're trying to leave
Speaker 4: a legacy.
Speaker 5: Both the idea behind having a franchise and not just
Speaker 5: doing it yourself in different locations, less work for you
Speaker 5: and just kind.
Speaker 4: Of yeas work, you know, to make the money with
Speaker 4: less work, it's always better, you know what I mean. So,
Speaker 4: but it's something that we know that people love, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. And everywhere you go, first thing,
Speaker 4: a lot of people you always there any Jamaican restaurant around,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So for me, if I
Speaker 4: could get trucks and records out there.
Speaker 2: That was my dream.
Speaker 4: You know, That's something that I was like, you know,
Speaker 4: this could be big because as you said, the franchise
Speaker 4: and McDonald's, KFC, all these different people, you see it,
Speaker 4: if I could get to that level retired the restaurant
Speaker 4: game down, but it is getting Dorset. So one of
Speaker 4: the most interesting ones I saw was Peloton. So it's
Speaker 4: kind of a double sword because obviously when you wake up,
Speaker 4: you work out, but now they've created like a workout
Speaker 4: for you. But I know music is something, so I'm
Speaker 4: thinking like, hey, maybe the music would be there. You
Speaker 4: talk about how Peloton came about, how they did they
Speaker 4: approach you? Yeah, they approached me. For me, I actually
Speaker 4: got my Peloton before. Peloton's wrong because when I retired,
Speaker 4: I was like, yo, I can't be bothered to go
Speaker 4: to the gym every day to go to the track again,
Speaker 4: because I've been doing that all my life, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean.
Speaker 2: So I was actually watching just watching TV on them
Speaker 2: and popped up. I was like, what is this on.
Speaker 4: That research that I was like, you know what, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna get one. That's how I got a peloton. So
Speaker 4: I just put it right in my room and that
Speaker 4: was good on that thirty minutes today and you're good,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So that's how I started.
Speaker 4: But then the approach me, They're like, yo, we'd like
Speaker 4: to sponsor you. I was like, yoh cool, Yeah for sure,
Speaker 4: I actually use it. I'm good at it, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. So that's how anything I started.
Speaker 5: It's one thing to be a superstar athlete. There's another
Speaker 5: thing to be the face of a country like Drake
Speaker 5: is Ca.
Speaker 7: Yeah, You're in the face of Jamaica. Like, how has
Speaker 7: that been?
Speaker 5: Like I feel like the biggest person in Jamaica since
Speaker 5: Bob Marley And obviously it's a lot of responsibility, I'm assuming,
Speaker 5: But how is that and.
Speaker 7: How has your role in the country grown as an
Speaker 7: ambassador for me?
Speaker 4: For me, I just try to represent my country the
Speaker 4: best I can anywhere I go into I do, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. We always think about making sure
Speaker 4: that Yo, we think about the country anything given way
Speaker 4: we're doing our shoots and whatever we say, Yo, we
Speaker 4: don't like this, it's not going to show good on Jamaica.
Speaker 4: And know I mean, so for me, I've always had
Speaker 4: that to the back of my mind because I've been
Speaker 4: representing Jamaica since I was like fourteen, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, and it has all gotten bigger and for me,
Speaker 4: I enjoy being an ambassador for the country.
Speaker 2: I mean, everywhere I go, people show.
Speaker 4: Me hell love, you know what I mean, even people
Speaker 4: from overseas like, yo, oh well thanks for doing this.
Speaker 2: Anywhere I go where I now, I'm from Jamaica, hell
Speaker 2: of love, you know. For me. I appreciate I love it.
Speaker 7: I love it and talking about that because it's like
Speaker 7: just Jamaicans all over the world and it's one.
Speaker 5: Of these things no matter where you go is Jamaicans
Speaker 5: beer and they're very supportive. So how has that been
Speaker 5: traveling around the world and having people with the Jamaican
Speaker 5: flag and all over Europe and America and everywhere.
Speaker 4: It's the best thing anywhere you go. You're always fun
Speaker 4: to Jamaica anywhere in the world, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: You're surprised.
Speaker 4: I go to I went to Mexico for the Vision
Speaker 4: and Cabo, and it was that guys like yo, I'm
Speaker 4: from Jamaica. And then he started talking podcasts like cool,
Speaker 4: but they're over here. But they always show me love
Speaker 4: and they always tell me times. So it feels good,
Speaker 4: you know, times to doing so good. You really put
Speaker 4: us on in my pinion, make us feel so proud
Speaker 4: and good. So something that I really appreciate that love,
Speaker 4: you know, And you said that you've never because I
Speaker 4: was surprised myself. I'm like, oh, so you get to Miami.
Speaker 4: Do you have a place in Miami? He said, no,
Speaker 4: Jamaica's love. I don't have any ambition to go anywhere else.
Speaker 4: It's it's just it's just I just love Jamaica. And
Speaker 4: I mean when I started out, I hate the That's
Speaker 4: the first thing. Okay, I hate it. Where that's cool
Speaker 4: with it, I hate it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So because I got offers to go to college like
Speaker 4: every other Jamaican, yeah, I was like, no, Texas, I
Speaker 4: want to stay. I want to stay in Jamaica. So
Speaker 4: that's something that that's when it started. And from then
Speaker 4: I've never really said, yo, you know what, I want
Speaker 4: to place anywhere else.
Speaker 2: It's just I just always want to come back home.
Speaker 5: So coming up and being a track superstar, what's the
Speaker 5: process as far as like getting an agent and manager?
Speaker 5: Because I'm assuming, like you know, you just had to
Speaker 5: learn a lot of stuff on your own, right, did
Speaker 5: your coaches, like in primary training you with that.
Speaker 7: Or did you just kind of like figure that out?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 4: So as soon as you get the professional But that's
Speaker 4: the first thing, you have to get an agent, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So in Jamaica, there was a few people that everybody knows,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So you kind of ask and say, yo, who's the
Speaker 4: good aj who works with who you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And that's how I got my agent, Rickie Simps. He's
Speaker 4: paid sports management and from then on we just work
Speaker 4: good together. And one of the reasons I stay with
Speaker 4: him even when I started out, he always.
Speaker 2: Treat me the same way like everybody else.
Speaker 4: He gives everybody respects to make sure you get pickups
Speaker 4: and you always get the information, so you know who's
Speaker 4: going to pick you up, what time is your flight,
Speaker 4: how much money you're gonna make, everything, you get all
Speaker 4: the information. I like how professionally was when I worked
Speaker 4: with him and with my manager. I had a manager
Speaker 4: that my parents actually found that I used to work with.
Speaker 4: And after a while, I'm best friend MJ that sings
Speaker 4: the music. He he he finished college because he's a
Speaker 4: trained teacher. When he finished college, I was like, yo, bro,
Speaker 4: what do you do? He's like, I got to find
Speaker 4: a work and teacher. I was like, you know what,
Speaker 4: come work for me, you know what I mean, because
Speaker 4: I trust you and I know you're going to have
Speaker 4: my back one hundred percent, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And he was like, Yo, but I don't know anything,
Speaker 4: you know. I was like, just just learn, bro, But
Speaker 4: He's like, all right, cool, and he started and he
Speaker 4: worked in my out of manager for like two years,
Speaker 4: and after that he just took over.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I feel like that's Lebron you didn't know, come with
Speaker 4: me agent, and eventually you become the exactly that's dope.
Speaker 4: So when when somebody wants to approach agent or NJ
Speaker 4: about my sponsorship or partnership, what is it like? Does
Speaker 4: it have to be aligned with something that you're doing already?
Speaker 4: It was like, oh, that's a great creative I did.
Speaker 4: But I mean, I feel like you were born to
Speaker 4: be there, Like the last thing. Both tracks get rate.
Speaker 4: Now we got the boat scooters perfect.
Speaker 2: Don't think the race for me.
Speaker 4: So for me, it's it's it's we We do try
Speaker 4: to pick proper brands, you know what I mean, because
Speaker 4: you know, you try to align yourself because you're trying
Speaker 4: to put yourself out there because the more sponsor, the
Speaker 4: more the more sponsor's.
Speaker 2: Going to see it, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 2: we do try to align ourselves with like proper brands.
Speaker 4: We don't just grab every cash that comes along, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, Because the better brands that you're
Speaker 4: with the more people want to work with you, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean.
Speaker 2: That's what we have learned over the years, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean.
Speaker 4: So we just keep on rolling, keep on putting our commercials,
Speaker 4: keep on keep going up, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Yourself talk about the motibility of the electric scooter.
Speaker 7: That's interesting. I had that come about.
Speaker 4: It's actually my my, my, my agent, Gina Ford from
Speaker 4: the US, because I have a US agent and Europe
Speaker 4: like NJ runs off Jamaica, but I have somebody in
Speaker 4: the US and then Europe Brooky, my agent, Key actually
Speaker 4: takes care of There is no because everybody information is
Speaker 4: on my website.
Speaker 2: So do you want to contact somebody, you contacted, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And if somebody from the States hit talk to Gina,
Speaker 4: she does the States stuff, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So everybody's on the same page. But so when Gina
Speaker 4: hit me up and he goes, Yo, these guys want
Speaker 4: to start voting, schooling, but they want to gain it,
Speaker 4: but school, So what do you want to do outside?
Speaker 2: That's easy. Yeah, that's how they information. That's how it
Speaker 2: really got started.
Speaker 4: And then we sat down with them and we talked
Speaker 4: and they shared the ideas and we're like, yo, let's
Speaker 4: do it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And that's how we got it done.
Speaker 5: Deals come like people might have already something and they
Speaker 5: want you to kind of be a part of it.
Speaker 7: They bring it to you.
Speaker 2: And go, yeah sure, Now I'm not with that, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So it's all about different different branding and how we
Speaker 4: see our and the brands working together.
Speaker 5: You know, at what point did you so I'm assuming
Speaker 5: the companies you have equity in these companies, when did
Speaker 5: you start moving over like, you know what, I'll rock
Speaker 5: with this out, I'll endorse it, but I need to
Speaker 5: be an owner and I just don't just pay me anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right.
Speaker 4: I think it was later on in our career we're like,
Speaker 4: you know what, we need to start taking like cash,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, and get some equity because
Speaker 4: a lot of these companies are getting bigger and bigger
Speaker 4: and bigger, you know I mean, and your your level
Speaker 4: is going to only go up. So we decided that
Speaker 4: end that, you know what, and when the right companies
Speaker 4: come comes along and offer you like to pay that. Now,
Speaker 4: give me some equity in this and are we good?
Speaker 4: I'll run all the commercials you want paid.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. So it's we just learned,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And just like the music,
Speaker 2: now we just take our time and figure it out.
Speaker 4: So is that the play now not even to play,
Speaker 4: but that is that strategy. Now we're going to take
Speaker 4: less cash up on more athletes. Right companies, the right companies, right.
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Speaker 5: I saw you getting into real estate also a building
Speaker 5: in Kingston. Yeah, what what's the deal with that?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 4: For me as you said, we're just trying to find
Speaker 4: just the person. The portfolio. It can be as big
Speaker 4: as it possibly can be, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And when we started to have two buildings and I'm
Speaker 4: working on trying to get another one, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. But again, Corona, Bro, Yeah, it was everything
Speaker 4: now so is everything now. But for me, growing up
Speaker 4: and learning about real estate was the biggest thing in
Speaker 4: people that getting houses and stuffy assets. So that's the
Speaker 4: way to go, you know what I mean. So you've
Speaker 4: got the chance to purchase my first building. I was
Speaker 4: kind of nervous. I was like, bro, that's a lot
Speaker 4: of money, you know what I mean. And I was
Speaker 4: like yeah, But at the end of the days, I said,
Speaker 4: they will stay with you forever and it only.
Speaker 2: Grows, you know what I mean. So I was like,
Speaker 2: you know, all right, do it.
Speaker 4: And after I saw the way it was turning the
Speaker 4: money off us, I you know, it just continuing, continue working.
Speaker 4: I feel like real estate is interesting and Mats Maxwell
Speaker 4: said the suits He's from Jamaica and wants to come
Speaker 4: back and through real estate here. But a lot of
Speaker 4: times if you drive around and see these houses that
Speaker 4: are baking, they started and they never finished.
Speaker 2: And it goes a lot to having the team and
Speaker 2: having the right people around.
Speaker 4: So if somebody organizing the team for you, or is
Speaker 4: it everything set you saying do you want to be involved?
Speaker 2: How's that going?
Speaker 4: And everything goes through an engine you know? For me
Speaker 4: is he has made my life My best friend has
Speaker 4: made my life ways or you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Because with him, he feel it tells us out all
Speaker 4: the span before he gets to me.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: He knows any time he sits me now and say, yo,
Speaker 4: this is what we're doing. I know from the start
Speaker 4: that yo, we're gonna do.
Speaker 2: This is what we're doing. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Because he doesn't bring nothing.
Speaker 4: Stupid as soon as he puts it on, all right,
Speaker 4: what we're doing, you know what I mean, let me
Speaker 4: clap it up, you know, yeah, yeah seriously because they've
Speaker 4: been friends like I was treated the result, So he's
Speaker 4: always been a part of my life and you're cool
Speaker 4: that trust one hundred percent. So so you make sure
Speaker 4: everything is good, everything goes through it no matter what
Speaker 4: I'm doing. I'm like, yeah, cool, cool talk to Yeah.
Speaker 5: It's important to have that system in place, so you
Speaker 5: don't have to do everything yourself exactly. Even Rickross talking
Speaker 5: about it, but his mother and his sister. So you're
Speaker 5: do empowered to people around you. That's a common thing.
Speaker 5: Empowered people around you. And now it's not like somebody
Speaker 5: is looking for you to give them money. They actually
Speaker 5: earning money because they performing the service. They're helping your economy.
Speaker 5: You're helping the economy, and that's really high. Sure, let
Speaker 5: me ask you this about the music.
Speaker 2: So the next So you're an artist, a producer.
Speaker 7: Executive.
Speaker 2: Putting it out, put it out?
Speaker 7: Yes, so yeah, so let's talk about that. What inspired that?
Speaker 7: Because from what I'm hearing, that's kind of like the
Speaker 7: vision to kind.
Speaker 5: Of be like what the calid is right where it's
Speaker 5: like you bring artists together as your favor so on.
Speaker 7: So what inspired that? We are with the music right now.
Speaker 2: So if you if you follow my career, you know
Speaker 2: the music and dancing is my thing. I love that.
Speaker 2: I'm always dancing. I'm always playing music.
Speaker 4: I usually DJ once like after every party, after every
Speaker 4: like meat that diamond meat, I would they whatever, like
Speaker 4: after party, I would bring my laptop and DJ for everybody,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And it's something that I've
Speaker 4: loved as I always think the n J yo, we
Speaker 4: should really drop the track, you know what I mean
Speaker 4: and do something, and it's like we always laugh about it,
Speaker 4: so I don't. I worked with Mum Champagne and they
Speaker 4: did a Champagne for me, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And that's what we really got to. He's like, yo,
Speaker 4: you know, we should do drop a riding with the
Speaker 4: champagne when we launch it. And that's exactly what we did.
Speaker 4: It's called Olympiros Olympiros and that's how we got refreshting
Speaker 4: and the.
Speaker 2: Vibe that we thought was like he was a vibe.
Speaker 4: And then like now in the Corona time, we weren't
Speaker 4: doing much. We're always here like you know what, let's
Speaker 4: just do it. And that's how we really got into music.
Speaker 2: For you. We just start making started doing different things
Speaker 2: and he was like sing.
Speaker 4: Was like, bro, I'm not a singer, so you want
Speaker 4: to you can sing, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 4: want to be like a DJ categy you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, just a vibe guy, that energy guy that gets.
Speaker 2: It pump, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so it's a goal to have a record label.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we do have record now we haven't signed in
Speaker 4: by for me what I'm working on. We talked about
Speaker 4: we're just trying to get inside the door, you know what.
Speaker 4: I'm because people now that outside people don't really take
Speaker 4: me seriously. I want to talk about that because I'm thinking, like,
Speaker 4: you're the face of a country, right, You're the face
Speaker 4: of the country. We dance a Reggae is the music
Speaker 4: of the country. But when you try to reach out
Speaker 4: to artists, it was like, listen, I got to do
Speaker 4: it at this and I'm thinking to myself, you know what.
Speaker 5: That's not really surprising if you look at in America
Speaker 5: when Shaq was rapping Kobe, Nobody to Kobe series.
Speaker 4: Because they're not the face of the country, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. These guys are superstars. I'm just saying,
Speaker 4: but there's nobody figure than this guy. I think you
Speaker 4: have to prove yourself and that music out. Yeah, they
Speaker 4: probably look at it like they dedicate their whole life
Speaker 4: to music. Yeah, but they just want to see that.
Speaker 2: But I'm not. I'm not singing them.
Speaker 4: It's like the guy, Yeah, I mean, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm making I'm just getting the beats and
Speaker 4: I'm trying to produce you because I love music, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, and I don't want to do it.
Speaker 4: So at the start, I called people like, yeah, they
Speaker 4: sent me to them, We get it done, and then
Speaker 4: you call them back. Hey, yeah, next to me, you
Speaker 4: call them back. I was like, I'm not doing this,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. People want no, like really know.
Speaker 4: I was like, yo, all right, we'll do it, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. But I have to prove myself
Speaker 4: and I'm not cool if I need to continue making music,
Speaker 4: but I want to get my foot in the door.
Speaker 4: And then I started signing people, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: because it makes no sense. I signed somebody now and
Speaker 4: no matter how much music I put up, he ain't
Speaker 4: going nowhere. So we made I do music with my
Speaker 4: friends and my close people and Jason's and stuff that.
Speaker 4: So I make my core people I work with and
Speaker 4: just continue producing songs, making videos. But now even now
Speaker 4: a few of them because they see what we're doing,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So now people will.
Speaker 2: Call when you're doing that. When you do that next
Speaker 2: really hit me up, you know what I mean. I'm like,
Speaker 2: all right, cool, And that's a good part because.
Speaker 4: Now people are really all right, cool, he's really seriou
Speaker 4: somebody to listen and watch what he's doing. You said that, TJ, TJ.
Speaker 4: Why so is the vibs producer?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Did he give you advice and to get into
Speaker 2: this game and like, look, don't take a person get worse?
Speaker 2: Like what was his goal in your well me? Well, yeah,
Speaker 2: but DJ is been somebody that we know for a minute,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And he's always gonna anything you want to know, you
Speaker 4: can call and say, yo, listen, this is what we're
Speaker 4: going to do.
Speaker 2: What you think you know what I mean, because he's
Speaker 2: been doing this for a minute, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So he's the one that guides usn't help us along
Speaker 4: the way, you know what I mean, and say, Yo,
Speaker 4: don't do this, don't do that, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: try to sinstead, you know.
Speaker 2: And so it's really helped us just to grow.
Speaker 4: And that's what we need, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: somebody to guide that's to make sure you don't make
Speaker 4: saying mistake they made back in the days. And that's
Speaker 4: what It's always the key that you listen because somebody's
Speaker 4: in the business for a while and doing great. There's
Speaker 4: a reason why he's there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, Let's have this music conversation.
Speaker 4: Dancehall and reggae. A lot of people outside of the
Speaker 4: coach you don't fully understand. They think everything is reggae.
Speaker 4: What there's a difference?
Speaker 5: Can you can you kind of talk about the difference
Speaker 5: and which which one of you leaning towards with with
Speaker 5: your musical preference.
Speaker 2: For me, a so, danceall is at the hardcore like
Speaker 2: are going in Yeah, like party you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, reggae is like more like Bars Hammond and that's
Speaker 4: you know, I mean the nice smooth song culture culture music.
Speaker 2: That's reggae, you know what I mean. So's it's two
Speaker 2: separate things.
Speaker 4: But right now it's dance all because reggae people in
Speaker 4: Jamaica now you have a few hours, like you have coffee,
Speaker 4: is doing like regger music, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: and a few other guys, I mean what they do.
Speaker 4: But it's really hardcore dance that people listening to, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, that's what they want to hear.
Speaker 4: So you just got to get the people what they
Speaker 4: want to hear, you know what I mean. But for
Speaker 4: sure in the future, will definitely do some more songs.
Speaker 4: I mean with chronics and all these guys, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, we do reggae. But right now it's
Speaker 4: just mainly like dance.
Speaker 2: So how this is important too? Right?
Speaker 4: You got non gold medals, the music pops off, you
Speaker 4: want to grin which one of you, which one is
Speaker 4: going above? Then it's always going to be my gold medals. Metals, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, it's good, but my gold medals there's
Speaker 4: a hard work and tears, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Tears. I always tell people I have a documentary. I
Speaker 2: am bold.
Speaker 4: Go check that out because a lot of people see
Speaker 4: me there. But all you know, you it looks so easy. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it looks easy, but it's not the work that goes
Speaker 4: on behind the scenes is what. Go check it out, seriously,
Speaker 4: iron Bolt documentary.
Speaker 7: Let me ask you this as far as the music,
Speaker 7: because I know you're big in the music. This is
Speaker 7: brought to my attention today afro beats. It is really
Speaker 7: on it. Dwarfed dance ball man like they said, like
Speaker 7: as like dance folds.
Speaker 5: Kind of getting sucked into afrobeats and it's all kind
Speaker 5: of merged together.
Speaker 4: How do you feel about that think. So dancehall is
Speaker 4: so different from afrobeats, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 4: I think afrobeats has grown like massively, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, over the few years, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And the way Danceall was is not the same thing,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. It's more streamline called back
Speaker 4: in the days.
Speaker 2: I was listening to the radio.
Speaker 4: I think it was Chrome, I don't remember who was playing,
Speaker 4: and they were talking about like danceall back in the
Speaker 4: days clash.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's what was when dance I was at
Speaker 2: his peak.
Speaker 4: I mean, if you if you versus thing when Beanie
Speaker 4: and Bunty went on, it was different, and that's what
Speaker 4: that's what danceall is missing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Everybody's friends zone exactly after everything is different, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. Yeah, there's no battering anymore. So dancehall
Speaker 4: is kind of on a level right now, kind of cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what was your reawer to that?
Speaker 4: I mean watching the versus Bounty because you're here, you
Speaker 4: know the history, you know how far back that nineteen
Speaker 4: but watching it present day on versus them being together,
Speaker 4: it's crazy.
Speaker 2: It's crazy to.
Speaker 4: See this man all my life and beans being at
Speaker 4: war all my life, you know what I mean, And
Speaker 4: to see the two of them versus just having a
Speaker 4: good time, it's like, it's crazy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: But it was so good to watching this reminiscent here
Speaker 4: that that was real. Yeah, really yeah, And that's what
Speaker 4: I think. That's what dance is missing right now, that
Speaker 4: hardcore where he's against him, remember, because remember Carteil and
Speaker 4: Mavada the same thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dance, how was that his peak?
Speaker 7: It was dangerous?
Speaker 4: We need we need yeah, because they took people took
Speaker 4: it too far away, you know, people took.
Speaker 2: It too far because it was hot. It was every
Speaker 2: argument down the street was who's the beddest, whose song
Speaker 2: was the best? I mean, but it's still that's what
Speaker 2: that's it was. I mean. So now for me, it's
Speaker 2: picking up and down. So I was like, we need,
Speaker 2: we need that energy.
Speaker 5: Super I want to ask you this too, because it's like,
Speaker 5: I feel like there's no global superstar right now. The
Speaker 5: biggest dance hall stark right me for wrong, it's still
Speaker 5: Bob's cartel, which is interesting because it's been in jail
Speaker 5: for a long wh is obs Cartel's impact on on
Speaker 5: the culture Because it's like for us, I'm like, he's
Speaker 5: coming out with new music.
Speaker 2: That's the greatest Jamaica. Yo. You say, how is he
Speaker 2: making music? Yo? This is crazy? He said.
Speaker 4: It's an impact of vibes cart plade, an impact because
Speaker 4: the level that he makes music and anything it does
Speaker 4: is just gold.
Speaker 2: He's just he's very smart. You know.
Speaker 4: If you listen to his music and he performs and
Speaker 4: he will sing this, and then each next week you
Speaker 4: hear his music and it's totally different, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. And that's how he rolls. He doesn't keep
Speaker 4: one flow for too long. He flows the one way
Speaker 4: and then he switches up, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And that's what makes him so great because you hear
Speaker 4: one artist the whole life. He sings the exact same way,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, But vibes Carter every two
Speaker 4: years or every year, it's a different flow, different vibes.
Speaker 4: He just keeps and that's why it's so great. That's
Speaker 4: why he had that big impact on Jamaica. So is
Speaker 4: he still the top because or is it like a
Speaker 4: guy like Popcorn is coming in? Yeah, vibes cartail can
Speaker 4: he will never stop, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But right now.
Speaker 4: I don't know the sixth six them as Jo say,
Speaker 4: and like Popcorn is doing well.
Speaker 2: Also, you know what I mean, But no one is
Speaker 2: really exactly exactly.
Speaker 7: Original.
Speaker 5: But I think I think I just from from my
Speaker 5: perspective as a fan, I feel like that's one of
Speaker 5: the things. Because even Apple they got whiz Kids, they
Speaker 5: got the Bob what is the name that the body?
Speaker 5: But I don't think that no one is Nobody know
Speaker 5: what I'm.
Speaker 7: Saying, don't be Vernable heard the boy exactly?
Speaker 2: So everything we need it all right?
Speaker 4: So when when we did clockwork right the rhythm, we
Speaker 4: did clockwork and we hit Shama and this is why
Speaker 4: he did the lockdown song.
Speaker 2: But people miss that.
Speaker 4: Dance all They were so happy to hear this, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, Ship and the body gave it.
Speaker 4: It just reminds you of dance. And I talked to
Speaker 4: him about it was like, people are gonna love the
Speaker 4: first time he sent them song, I was like, I'm
Speaker 4: sure peoplere gonna love this because as soon as I
Speaker 4: heard it, it reminds me of like proper whole old
Speaker 4: school Jamaican dance all music, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: And that's what we are missing nowadays in the music.
Speaker 2: Until that comes back, it's is gonna be regular.
Speaker 4: So yeah, did the lockdown song and then obviously has
Speaker 4: Colona has eased up a little bit.
Speaker 2: You know, see what happens.
Speaker 4: It's a party comes Yeah, very intention parted. Yeah, it's
Speaker 4: a summer song, you know what I mean. It's a
Speaker 4: summer song. And we we talked about it. You had
Speaker 4: a few songs and like, no, this is a one.
Speaker 4: It's a party is a one because it's in summertime.
Speaker 4: Now we finally got a little bit extension on our curve.
Speaker 4: So I was like, well, you dropped this song right now,
Speaker 4: is going to get a bus People gonna like it
Speaker 4: because that's what we want, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I mean, just have fun. It's a party
Speaker 2: in NJ. So this is what we're doing. And that's
Speaker 2: what we did. Video looks great. You know, it was
Speaker 2: missing one thing that these guys called leisure. You know,
Speaker 2: we like to have fun, and it was it was
Speaker 2: a party. It was choice for the video. That's the
Speaker 2: second part.
Speaker 4: You earn the lead and so you know the next video,
Speaker 4: you know, no worries, no word.
Speaker 2: You've never.
Speaker 7: Yeah, come to the it's crazy.
Speaker 2: I was like ship.
Speaker 5: Let me ask you this as far as Jamaica, how
Speaker 5: has COVID affected thing? Because I feel like I feel
Speaker 5: like it got hit hard because you're still in lockdown semi.
Speaker 7: How has it affected like the business economy?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: Because I think it's it's bad for everybody, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean? But like the down saw itself, the
Speaker 4: entertainment industry got it was it was bad. Finally now
Speaker 4: they're they're really like opening it up and giving us
Speaker 4: a chance. But initially nothing, you know, I mean, it
Speaker 4: was ten people like young can get in ten.
Speaker 2: I was like what you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: It got hit really bad, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: But overall team a lot of people. They told us
Speaker 4: that everybody else worked from home as much as possible. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but it was as crazy as everybody.
Speaker 7: What's your thoughts are you?
Speaker 2: Are you?
Speaker 7: What's your thoughts on the business climate in Jamaica?
Speaker 5: Because we always hear about music, sports, but like for
Speaker 5: the entrepreneurs that's coming up, do you think that there's
Speaker 5: some opportunities?
Speaker 2: Are you?
Speaker 5: Do you feel like there's a lot more that needs
Speaker 5: to be done to help entrepreneurs and young people that's
Speaker 5: trying to figure it out.
Speaker 4: Business I think there is, you know, I mean, there's
Speaker 4: a lot more work, you know, I mean, it's not
Speaker 4: as easy, you know what I mean, because.
Speaker 2: Even to get a job is rough, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. And it's the weirdest thing.
Speaker 4: I've never said this, but like they don't put a
Speaker 4: lot of respect on like Jamaican indication. You go to
Speaker 4: UI a U Tech and you come out of school.
Speaker 4: Somebody goes to American school. They get the job by
Speaker 4: that easy. It makes no sense. And one other team
Speaker 4: when people will say yo, or you need the experience,
Speaker 4: I am not going to get the experience if nobody's
Speaker 4: gonna iire me, you know what I mean. You got
Speaker 4: to get people that trying to prove themselves, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. But it's hard for entrepreneurs. It's not
Speaker 4: it's not something that you can just get up and
Speaker 4: go all right, I can make it now. That's why
Speaker 4: a lot of people just work, you know what I mean, Yeah,
Speaker 4: a lot of people. That's kind of a great segue
Speaker 4: because I want to talk about what you do with
Speaker 4: the using both foundation, refurbishing schools, great community centers. So
Speaker 4: the ain't laptops. Can you talk about that in your
Speaker 4: points of it. Obviously, we know that the resources can
Speaker 4: help any situation. So that's what you're doing is throughout
Speaker 4: the country or specifically is it is most of the
Speaker 4: rural yours cause that's where it's needed, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, because especially in the is you know, have
Speaker 4: internet and stuff like that, so we try we work
Speaker 4: with this so also to try to get a few
Speaker 4: schools like internet service and and then we figure out
Speaker 4: that some places you can't get internet, so we have
Speaker 4: to get printers now to send to like different schools
Speaker 4: so they can actually print information and pass it around
Speaker 4: the community to the kids, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So for me, that's what we've been doing most of COVID,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. That's trying to get as
Speaker 4: much equipment out to these rural era schools so they
Speaker 4: can get their information because it's not you can go
Speaker 4: and like in Kingston you can go and zoom everybody
Speaker 4: has an iPad everything, but in the country it's not
Speaker 4: like that, you know what I mean. So that's what
Speaker 4: we're focused on most COVID, just trying to get as
Speaker 4: much equipment to the rule of the area as possible and.
Speaker 2: Were all donating to the hospitals as well. The COD
Speaker 2: we anything for me.
Speaker 4: We tried to help in any way possible to give
Speaker 4: like equipment and just even just to have a talk
Speaker 4: with people because mental health was a situation.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so it was a big thing.
Speaker 4: So any possible way I could help and ad thetime,
Speaker 4: I would do it.
Speaker 7: Have you ever thought about getting into politics.
Speaker 2: No, I stay with.
Speaker 4: I stay away from politics. Is I don't want to say,
Speaker 4: but correct, you know what I mean. But I stay
Speaker 4: away from it's too much, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: it's too much.
Speaker 2: Good.
Speaker 5: I just felt like, you know, you're such an ambassador,
Speaker 5: You're such you have so much pride in your country.
Speaker 7: You won't leave the country. You could be the president.
Speaker 2: Yeah, too much, much, too much. I stay with. If
Speaker 2: I can avoid politics, I avoid it completely, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. I just do my part, do my work.
Speaker 2: That's it, you know what I mean. I try to
Speaker 2: help it anyway, but I just leave it alone. That's
Speaker 2: how I am.
Speaker 7: So what's on the horizon, what do you what?
Speaker 5: What's on your vision board in the next five ten years,
Speaker 5: as far as you know, different things.
Speaker 2: That you have going on. For me, I take it
Speaker 2: as a coming. I mean, right, now, I'm just focusing
Speaker 2: on this music, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So for the next two years, I think that's going
Speaker 4: to be I mean, focused to see what's going on,
Speaker 4: you know, I mean to try to get everything together
Speaker 4: and to see how far we can go with it,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But behind that, I tried
Speaker 4: to still get my build lins up and all the things.
Speaker 4: But my main focus is going to be the music.
Speaker 2: Right now.
Speaker 7: Who's the artists that you really like are tuned in with?
Speaker 2: Like now, let's see that for me.
Speaker 4: Right now, we just try to make good beats and
Speaker 4: and find because we're not really I'm not really searching
Speaker 4: for like talent, as I said, because I want to
Speaker 4: when I get my foot in the door, and then
Speaker 4: I'll be like, all.
Speaker 2: Right, cool, we can we can say let's see who's time.
Speaker 4: We can probably do something on social media where the
Speaker 4: best top five music are like so you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. But right now, I'm just working and as
Speaker 4: I said, people are enjoying the music more now and
Speaker 4: and listening to it.
Speaker 2: So I'm really happy with what's going on.
Speaker 5: What artists would you want to work with? You might
Speaker 5: not have every who's your favorite artist? Let's say who's
Speaker 5: your favorite of all time?
Speaker 4: So it has to be Vibes Carter Lives cartil Is.
Speaker 4: We're talking to baby Shamda. I was like, of we
Speaker 4: grew up on your music. So when I see these
Speaker 4: guys and hear them sing and see the word that
Speaker 4: they put in, it's always so crazy, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean to know that I grew up on their
Speaker 4: music all these years and now I'm just working with
Speaker 4: these guys, you know what I mean. So I'm always
Speaker 4: a big upho always because to be working with him
Speaker 4: it's like a dream.
Speaker 2: Also, trust me, because you grew up on these music
Speaker 2: right right right.
Speaker 4: To come to come to Kingston, you might say yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: and it was giving me two years after you have
Speaker 4: an there's no joke.
Speaker 2: There's no joke. I first spect that. I love that.
Speaker 5: It's always interesting because I like athletes always have such
Speaker 5: respect for music. Musicians have such respect. It's like you
Speaker 5: listen to the music before you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: For sure, I've always said that, like yo, music and
Speaker 4: sports is like like one you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Wait before we go again, congratulates don't happen twins Sho.
Speaker 4: We talk about the role that fatherhood has played in
Speaker 4: your life over the past few years. For me, patience
Speaker 4: is what it has taught me to be very much
Speaker 4: more because I wasn't patient. But I get I know,
Speaker 4: I really quick if I have to wait, really but
Speaker 4: now I have to be patient, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean my daughter she doesn't listen.
Speaker 7: Like she was.
Speaker 2: I would like, come here. She looks me dead and
Speaker 2: walks away like I know. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 2: to you. But you have to have patience. But that's
Speaker 2: what they told men. It's been.
Speaker 4: It's been great sleeps, a little bit of sleepless nights,
Speaker 4: but expected, you know what I mean. Time I was
Speaker 4: smart to not to not have kids while I was running,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean that was That was a
Speaker 4: good decision.
Speaker 2: You ran your own risks.
Speaker 7: It's been an honor, it's been a pleasure.
Speaker 5: Shout out to Nicole black Effect our heart for putting
Speaker 5: this together.
Speaker 7: Shout out to the whole team.
Speaker 5: Shout out to you, shout the sh shout out to
Speaker 5: everybody making man we believe and enjoy ourselves out here.
Speaker 5: Everybody really really just friendly and just show us so
Speaker 5: much love. We got to know what the party is
Speaker 5: going on.
Speaker 7: The club. I know it closed out eleven good, we'll
Speaker 7: talk about that.
Speaker 5: That's a but nah, man, any anything that you like
Speaker 5: to tell the people, what would you like to like
Speaker 5: let them know any businesses or.
Speaker 7: Something going on.
Speaker 4: For me, it's just the music right now. Just look
Speaker 4: up for the music. And I mean, I'm seriously in
Speaker 4: the music business. There's always eighteen lifestyle. You've seeing production.
Speaker 4: It's all that music and supporting I mean goes treating
Speaker 4: the music. I mean because I mean business and you're
Speaker 4: gonna continue here and good music with different people should.
Speaker 7: Put together a tour when Corona is over a bunch
Speaker 7: of artists that.
Speaker 2: It was a vibe.
Speaker 7: That's all right, man. I appreciated chroy housekeeping items.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Shout out to Kingston, Jamaica. Choutte Kingston, Jamaica. As
Speaker 2: got know my entire families from here. So to be here,
Speaker 2: to be here with the goal is incredible.
Speaker 4: And shout to everybody on patreon dot com that's been
Speaker 4: supporting us so I'll probably paid program. Shout to the
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Speaker 4: all our earners across the world, all our earners in Jamaica.
Speaker 4: We came here and people recognize us from being on
Speaker 4: the podcast and our earners as well as shout y'all.
Speaker 2: Shout everybody supporting the merch. We greatly appreciate y'all.
Speaker 4: The local TVs are the logal t shirts are back,
Speaker 4: so shout out to y'all and yeah, man support.
Speaker 5: One last thing, How does it feel of being a sport?
Speaker 5: I feel like this is interesting. Track is probably the
Speaker 5: only sport in the world when it's no debate. Joy
Speaker 5: Mayweather versus I got to know you're the fastest person.
Speaker 5: That's what I feel to be like, I'm I'm the
Speaker 5: best to ever do this and you can't. You can't
Speaker 5: say Jordan Lebron.
Speaker 2: We always talk about this and I always laugh and
Speaker 2: I was like, yo, yeah, there's no question. You know
Speaker 2: what I mean.
Speaker 4: You can't dispute this. You know what I mean because
Speaker 4: what we always argue about Messi and Ronaldo. That's one
Speaker 4: of the biggest things, you know what I mean. I'm Ronaldo.
Speaker 4: I'm a Manchester United, so that's how it started. I
Speaker 4: support Argentina though, but yeah, okay, that's yeah, that's my
Speaker 4: international team.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But for me, he's proven himself and people always ask
Speaker 4: why I was like you went to Manchester United, dominated,
Speaker 4: went to Real Madrid dominated. When dominated is proven that yo,
Speaker 4: anywhere I go, I can dominate, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: That's cool. Clear, I almost forgot. I'm glad you said
Speaker 4: to debate. So you ran nineteen nineteen and you ran
Speaker 4: nine five big? Could you have gone fast if you
Speaker 4: didn't do the chest book and.
Speaker 2: Look like.
Speaker 7: But then he also did this.
Speaker 2: No, that was when he looked back at them. That's
Speaker 2: the one of the best means of all time. You
Speaker 2: think you could have.
Speaker 4: Moved, You could have probably probably, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: But for me, as I said, I've always said to you,
Speaker 4: I've always said to people, I don't run for time,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I just want to beat you. That's how I am
Speaker 2: as a person. I'm competitive.
Speaker 4: So I showed in eight when I ran in eight
Speaker 4: Tyson and Tyson was injured and I wont him to
Speaker 4: everybody was like, oh it was because Tyson wasn't there,
Speaker 4: blah blah blah blah. I was like, all right, cool,
Speaker 4: respect he wasn't there. And then you know nine, now
Speaker 4: I beat him. I was like, all right, what are
Speaker 4: you saying?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: It was just all about company and only I never
Speaker 2: earned the time. In the twenty sixty Olympics, you had
Speaker 2: come back from injury. Oh no, it was actually the
Speaker 2: word the year before that Chapman had just come back
Speaker 2: from Yeah. They were like.
Speaker 4: He had had a crazy Yeah it was it was
Speaker 4: running fast and you still be them because all right,
Speaker 4: I explained this to a lot of people. It's easy
Speaker 4: to chase somebody when you're the one being chased, can
Speaker 4: you handle it?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Because through everything he was the one chasing me, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. And then the season now switches around. No,
Speaker 4: he gets to the line, I'm the one chasing him,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And that's the pressure that
Speaker 4: got to him, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I mean. And people always think it's easy.
Speaker 2: It's not. It's not easy when you're on top. It's
Speaker 2: not easy.
Speaker 4: Because he was running good and I was like, I
Speaker 4: was barely making it back. I was running good, but
Speaker 4: I wasn't running fast enough, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: But the pressure of that day, that yo, he had
Speaker 4: to win, got the best of them.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: He just broke saw me and just lost it, you
Speaker 4: know I mean, it's just the pressure. And I tell
Speaker 4: people it's a little easy, but it's not. You know,
Speaker 4: it's because of and I know from like the two hundred.
Speaker 4: Once you make that turn, the distance between you and
Speaker 4: the next person is so disrespect it looks.
Speaker 2: Like like two hundred.
Speaker 4: My events, if I win a hundred means I'm not
Speaker 4: listening to hundreds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that tells people four hundred. Yeah. I didn't like it.
Speaker 2: That was too much, that's all. Yeah.
Speaker 4: In Old seven, I remember after we I ran, I
Speaker 4: came second to Tyson Gay. My coach was like, yo,
Speaker 4: you need a second you need a second race. You
Speaker 4: have to run the four undred meals. I was like, noah,
Speaker 4: bro I run a hundred. Music goes, no, You're not
Speaker 4: one hundred meter run it all.
Speaker 2: I was like. I was like, nah, I be like
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 4: I was like, all right, bet if I run one
Speaker 4: hundred minutes and I run fast, I run a hundred,
Speaker 4: I run so I run the four hundred minutes and
Speaker 4: he's like all right, and I went, I don't remember well.
Speaker 4: I think I went to attend somewhere meet and I
Speaker 4: ran ten old Tree and I was like, cool, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean?
Speaker 2: And teno tree back then was good, good, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: And I was like, and that's how I started runing
Speaker 4: a hundred minutes. If I'd run slow, I wouldn't be
Speaker 4: the first man in the world. Right, I'll be running.
Speaker 4: I'll be running foodge meters.
Speaker 2: You know what. It's crazy. Oh things work out. That's crazy. Man.
Speaker 7: All right, God, thank you for Rocco West. We'll see
Speaker 7: you next week, he appreciated.
Speaker 6: Brother, my graduates from my school being forced bad drop
Speaker 6: bag drop my droft.
Speaker 7: Bad drop drop.
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