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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 2: Everyone?

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast. I'm your host, Chris Raybon,

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Speaker 1: and this is going to be our AFC training camp preview.

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Speaker 1: I'm joined by one of the top most accurate fantasy

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Speaker 1: rankers in the game, one of the most sharpest NFL

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Speaker 1: experts on the planet, the odds maker, Sean Turner. Sean,

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Speaker 1: what's going on?

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Speaker 2: What's up? Yeah, I can't believe training camp was already starting.

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Speaker 2: So I'm looking for already know the next few weeks.

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Speaker 2: Everyone overacting to an amazing catch, myself included. I'm just

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Speaker 2: excited to see some of these guys back in action.

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Speaker 2: But how are you doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great and I'm excited for the preseason to

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Speaker 1: get underway. I was just talking on the pod with Friedman,

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Speaker 1: how last preseason it took me about five snaps of

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Speaker 1: Tank Dell for me to declare that he was the

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Speaker 1: best Texans receiver, and I still believe that even though

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Speaker 1: Nico had had a crazy season. But you definitely do

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Speaker 1: glean stuff from, you know, preseason training camp, and so

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Speaker 1: excited to talk through each team with you. We're going

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Speaker 1: to go through every team in the AFC and hit

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Speaker 1: on a burning question or two for each team, kind

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Speaker 1: of discuss, you know, if you're a gambler, an invested

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Speaker 1: sports fan, maybe even a fantasy player, what you need

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Speaker 1: to know, what you need to be asking, what you

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Speaker 1: need to be monitoring, what you need to be deciphering

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Speaker 1: for each of these franchises. So's jump right in. Let's

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Speaker 1: start in the AFC East Gone. When you look at

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, what comes to mind first?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think it's which wide receiver or wide

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Speaker 2: receivers are going to step up with their top two

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Speaker 2: receivers gone. You know, Stefan Diggs and Gabe Davis are

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Speaker 2: on new teams, so you know, to break this down,

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Speaker 2: I think the Bills became much more run heavy under

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Speaker 2: I think they're going to continue to lean on the

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Speaker 2: run a bit more now that they're lacking some of

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Speaker 2: the past catching talent. But their wide receiver PEP chart

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Speaker 2: little Shakir, you know, he has the most experienced in

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Speaker 2: chemistry with Josh Allen in this scheme, so I expect

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Speaker 2: him to step up this year. I've always thought he's

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Speaker 2: been sort of underrated, more of a slot guy, but

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Speaker 2: you know, I think he could step up and absorb,

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Speaker 2: you know, some of the targets left behind by Diggs.

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Speaker 2: They also brought in Curtis Samuel who could see quite

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Speaker 2: I just think they did have a lot of like

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Speaker 2: you know, some of the Gay Davis downfield role with

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Speaker 2: I just think this is going to be just a

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Speaker 2: spread out offense. I don't really think there's going to

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Speaker 2: I think will be the number one target in this

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Speaker 2: But I just don't think we're gonna see like an

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Speaker 1: Yes, Stefan Diggs one hundred and sixty targets, one eighty

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Speaker 1: You know, my earlywen as to what I think is

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Speaker 1: And if I have to pick a favorite for wide receivers,

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Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins, Uh, you know my question when I

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Speaker 1: So you know, that's kind of my biggest concern with Miami,

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Speaker 2: Not really. You know, Tua does get rid of it

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Speaker 2: especially not if but when Toronto Armstead does and heavily

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Speaker 2: that's something in season I'll be watching closely. But I

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Speaker 2: haven't made any significant tweaks, you know, for Tua's season

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Speaker 1: You know, maybe docked him tiny bit in terms of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think you know, with the Patriots, I'm pondering,

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Speaker 2: you know, Jacoby Brissette versus Drake May and how each

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Speaker 2: point spreads, and you know, the Drake maypick was interesting.

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Speaker 2: You know that the Patriots took him third overall, but

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Speaker 2: he landed in the worst situation of all the first

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Speaker 2: their week one And you know the Jacoby Brissette is

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Speaker 2: you know, I would say he's an above average backup quarterback,

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Speaker 2: it really comes down to, you know, when would it

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Speaker 2: make sense to kind of have May take over? And

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Speaker 2: unfortunately the buyes the Patriots don't have a buy until

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Speaker 2: week fourteen, and they have a pretty tough early season schedule,

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Speaker 2: so there's a chance that Brissett starts, you know, half

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Speaker 2: if and when Drake May takes over some time in

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Speaker 2: this situation like this, I'll actually lower the team's power

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Speaker 2: it's probably gonna be more of a lateral move. But

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Speaker 2: either way, he's a quarterback. I'n be watching very closely

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Speaker 2: in preseason because, like I said, he's still raw. He needs,

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Speaker 2: What do you think of John, Yeah, so just you know,

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Speaker 1: Harbaugh is the coach, Greg Roman is the offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: But he could have a bounce back in ear two

429
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 2: and that that would really help, that would go a

430
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 2: long way with their passing attack. But I think you're right.

431
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna be a much more run heavy,

432
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 2: maybe low lower scoring gains type of offense. And they're

433
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Speaker 2: gonna be run heavy team. But we don't even know

434
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 2: who's gonna get the most carries in this offense. It

435
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 2: could be Gus Edwards, could be JK. Dobbins, could be

436
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 2: Kamani bydel So a lot of interesting moving parts here

437
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 2: where they're They're a really tricky team of project right now.

438
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you know you're also you know the

439
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: defense is undergoing transformation because you had that staily defense.

440
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 1: I'm hearing you know, uh trade rumors with Bosa, which

441
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,120
Speaker 1: would which could be big. You still got Kaweel Mack

442
00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 1: and you still got Derwin James and Samuel at a corner.

443
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, this pass offense, I'm really curious right now.

444
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 1: I have Herbert for around two hundred and thirty five

445
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: yards per game, so pretty significant degree from his career averages.

446
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: The Denver Broncos another team, you know, offense should look

447
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 1: a little bit different this year. What are you looking

448
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 1: at with them?

449
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 2: Just who who? Burgess as the starting quarterback could be

450
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 2: a three way race between Bonix, Jared Siddam and now

451
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson is in the mix. I would think that

452
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,640
Speaker 2: Boonix is the heavy favorite to win the Week one

453
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 2: starting job and start, you know, as long as he's healthy,

454
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 2: why not this year. But he might have been a

455
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 2: bit of a reach at number twelve overall, but the

456
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 2: Broncos obviously didn't want to risk him potentially not making

457
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 2: it to Round two or figuring out how to trade down,

458
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,719
Speaker 2: so they just took him both. Overall, I think he's

459
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 2: probably one of the most ready quarterbacks. He started sixty

460
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 2: one games in college, the most ever by a quarterback,

461
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 2: so he doesn't need more reps or anything. So if

462
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 2: he looks decent enough in training camp and in preseason,

463
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 2: I think he wins a job. It wouldn't make sense

464
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,880
Speaker 2: really to start Jared Sidham week one. I don't really

465
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 2: know what his ceiling would even be, but I think

466
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 2: they just want to get bicks out there and start

467
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 2: getting him reps. You know, if Zach Wilson were to start,

468
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 2: it'd be he just really lit up camp, lit up preseason,

469
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 2: and maybe just his time at the Jets was just

470
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 2: a bad fit or something. So he'll be interesting to

471
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 2: watch as well. But the way I see this unfolding

472
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 2: is you know, bo Nicks does at least the bare

473
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 2: minimum to land the week one starting job, and he

474
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 2: will be their starting quarterback this year as long as

475
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 2: he's healthy.

476
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think bo Nicks, you know, probably gives

477
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: him the best chance to win. Dak Wilson's terrible, so

478
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: I'm not either hearing him, but you know, I mean,

479
00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 1: he's absolutely awful. If Sean Payton can even turn him

480
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: into a respectable backup, that is just amazing work by Peyton.

481
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: But obviously they took bo Nicks because they you know,

482
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: Peyton wants a quarterback and he's gonna do everything in

483
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 1: his power, I think, to get Nick's ready. And you know,

484
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: if for some reason he's not, I think they're comfortable

485
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 1: with Stidham, who's you know, he's not like Zach Wilson's

486
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 1: terrible yard. Stidham's just a normal, you know, run of

487
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: the mill back up. He's not awful like he's He's

488
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: had some awful games, He's had some decent games. But

489
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:36,239
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson, if he emerges as the starting quarterback, I mean,

490
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: you know, just just just put Sean Payton in the

491
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame right now, because that's that would be amazing.

492
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:43,479
Speaker 2: Uh.

493
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Speaker 1: Speaking of quarterback situations, we have the Raiders with a

494
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Speaker 1: quarterback battle, Aidan O'Connell, second year man versus veteran Gardner

495
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: Minshew last season. Believe it or not, O'Connell and minshew

496
00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 1: same completion percentage sixty two percent yards per ten O'Connell

497
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 1: sixty five, minshew's sixty seven. The touchdown rates three point

498
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: five percent for O'Connell three point one percent Minshew. The

499
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: same exact sack rate, but Minshew had a QBR a sixty.

500
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: O'Connell had a QBR of forty. So you know, I

501
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: think there was some Yeah, that kind of matches the

502
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 1: eye test. I think you know, Minchew, even though the

503
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: numbers don't look great. Uh, you know, he's a little

504
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 1: bit hat hazard, but tended to get it done and

505
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: he pulled some throws out of his ass in the

506
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: red zone and connected when he had to. So you know,

507
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 1: which of these two? Do you have these guys just

508
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: rated equally in your power ratings or is there a

509
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: slight edge to one or the other.

510
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 2: They're pretty even. I guess it depends what you're trying

511
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 2: to accomplish. I think that, you know, height and O'Connell.

512
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 2: I was pretty high on him this time last year,

513
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 2: especially how well he showed out in preseason. He reminds

514
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 2: me of Jameis Winston where he's he has a very

515
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 2: wide range of outcomes. You know, he can make some

516
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 2: really great throws and just some ugly plays. I remember

517
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 2: his debut, he just absolutely killed me. He took what

518
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 2: like eight or nine sacks fumbled. That's just how he is.

519
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 2: So like, if you're the raid, like the Raiders will

520
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 2: be the underdog most of the time. So I would

521
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 2: say that it would make sense for them to kind

522
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 2: of want to leverage you know, Jameis Winston, the little

523
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 2: type of quarterback, to give him a chance, whereas you know,

524
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 2: Minshew's similar, but he's more we kind of know what

525
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 2: to expect with Minshew, you know, probably one of the

526
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 2: worst starting quarterbacks in the league, but you know, he's

527
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 2: not terrible. So I think that it would make the

528
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 2: most sense to just let an Oconna let it rep

529
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 2: in your two. Maybe he breaks out, maybe he doesn't,

530
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 2: but you're in a situation right now. You need to

531
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 2: figure it out, and if you flop, then you get

532
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 2: a really high draft pick. Next year and can take

533
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,239
Speaker 2: your quarterback in the future. I think ultimately they got

534
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: screwed over. I think they were really planning on Michael

535
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 2: Pennix falling to them. I thought it was going to happen,

536
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 2: and just the Falcons destroy that plan. So they're just

537
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 2: going into this season, you know, with these two quarterbacks

538
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 2: not much the game from it, and I just think

539
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 2: that you have more to gain by letting O'Connell out there,

540
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 2: letting it rip. If he's terrible, you at least have

541
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 2: Gardner Minshru to put it in there. So while I

542
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 2: have them equal and power rating, I still think O'Connell

543
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 2: at least has the higher ceiling.

544
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think O'Connor has a higher ceiling. Minshu has

545
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: the higher floor. So you know, as of right now,

546
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: I still have Minshew a few tenths of a point

547
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: ahead of O'Connell. You know, if O'Connell it balls out

548
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: in preseason and decidedly wins the job before week one,

549
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: then I'd probably equal him out or maybe even you know,

550
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: bump O'Connell. But as of now, just you know, my

551
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: raw projections do have Minshew a little bit ahead. You know,

552
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: I think he's he can be a solid caretaker, whereas

553
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: you know, because O'Connell has that high ceiling, Yie also has,

554
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: you know, like there's like you can get one of

555
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: those like four touchdown like sixty to seventy points against

556
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: the Charger game, or you can get the other Charger

557
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 1: game where he took like ten sacks, you know. And

558
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: this Raider team they want to play defense, they want

559
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: to run the football. It's a whole different identity from

560
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: what we're used to with the Raiders under Antonio Pierce.

561
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: So I, you know, I think they'll throw just because

562
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: they have Adams and because Bowers fell into their lap.

563
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: But I don't think this is going to be a

564
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: pass first team by by any means, and I don't

565
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: think O'Connor will make that big of a week to

566
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: make them a pass first team. So as of now,

567
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: Swight edge to Minshew. But as far as the season

568
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: long game started, I actually have O'Connell starting one more game.

569
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: I have a nine to eight, you know, so, and

570
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: I'll adjust at as we get you know, more information.

571
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: But I kind of essentially my naive model right now,

572
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: because I don't think any anybody really knows, you know,

573
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: we can kind of speculate.

574
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw, like, you know, a

575
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 2: lot of books have that week one starting quarterback market,

576
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 2: and you know, Minshew is pretty heavily favorite. I think

577
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 2: he was up to like minus two hundred to start

578
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 2: week one, and now O'Connell's the favorite at most books

579
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 2: around minus one fifty. So something has happened where it

580
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 2: looks more like the O'Connell at start week one, and

581
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 2: that like he's the kind of quarterback once he starts,

582
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 2: they probably want to stick with him as long as possible.

583
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 2: So I've actually flipped it where I have O'Connell starting

584
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 2: like ten games and Minshew seven. Yeah, but we're just

585
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 2: guessing at this point. But yeah, I've been kind of like,

586
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 2: you know, fudging them like every other day, just watching

587
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 2: that that market and trying to keep up with the news.

588
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 2: But right it's it's it's basically a coin flip. But

589
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 2: you know, they have probably one of the closest QB

590
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 2: battles heading into camp.

591
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: Oh, definitely the quosest. And I think the reason the

592
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: market flipped was I read something from a quote from

593
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: DeVante Adams saying, you know, I think I think O'Connell's

594
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: got the edge right now, and he was here last

595
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: year and whatnot, So I think that's probably what what

596
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: flipped the the market. But at the same time, you

597
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: do have you still have some veterans like like DeVante

598
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: Adams on that team, and so you know, if if

599
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: O'Connell's struggling, you know, I think that they wouldn't hesitate

600
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: to go to Minshew you knows. You know, Adams, I

601
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: think his his opinion and his leadership just carries a

602
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: lot of weight in that locker room. Now, if he

603
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: gets traded, then then all bets are wrong, right, But hey,

604
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: Zamir White, I like Zamir White. That that's uh. We

605
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: Friedman and I just talked about him on UH on

606
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: the pod that will be dropping on the Action Network

607
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: pod that will be dropping in a bit, and uh

608
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: we both have him uh over one hundred yards over

609
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: his UH season long rushing prop which I believe is

610
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: in the seven hundreds. I think we both are close

611
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: to nine hundreds. So that that's kind of what I

612
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: who I expect to to to break out in that offense.

613
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: But let's jump to the AFC south of the Indianapolis

614
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: Colts almost got into the playoffs last year, lost that

615
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: Week eighteen game and a thriller to the Texans on

616
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: the Goodson drop. What are you thinking for the Colts

617
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: this year? It seems like something related to that good.

618
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, speaking of good sin, so who will emerge

619
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 2: as Jonathan Taylor's backup? And normally the answer to that

620
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 2: question didn't matter and it probably still doesn't because JT

621
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 2: just never missed time. He never apparently never missed practice

622
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 2: or a game in his entire life until last season

623
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 2: where he ended up missing a handful of games. Luckily,

624
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 2: they had Zach Moss there who really stepped up and

625
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: he looked incredible in the offense. They didn't miss a

626
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 2: beat without JT. But now you know, Moss is in

627
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 2: Cincinnati now, so it remains a big seen which back

628
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 2: will potentially become the new number two back, you know,

629
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 2: between Trey Sermon, Evan Hole and Tyler Goodson. Goodson, as

630
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: you mentioned, was the back who infamously dropped the pass

631
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 2: to end the cold season in a must win game

632
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 2: for the Texans. It was a bizarre play. I remember

633
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 2: you were frustrated about it as well, where they took

634
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 2: Taylor off the field for that play, well he was

635
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 2: he was hurt. Well, so yeah he was heard.

636
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: We found out la year that he played that whole

637
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: drive at like a bum ankle and then.

638
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 2: Like he made it that far yeah, like at least

639
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 2: to be a decoy or something like. It was just

640
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 2: really bizarre. And uh so Goodson's in the mix. Maybe

641
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: he wants to, you know, have some revenge from that play,

642
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 2: but I probably have him the least likely of the

643
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 2: crew to become the new number two back. Evan Hole

644
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 2: was their fifth round pick last year. Didn't play much.

645
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 2: She only had one rush for one yard, but even

646
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,439
Speaker 2: in the preseason he didn't look great averages three point

647
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 2: one yards per carry. So my bet is on Trey

648
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 2: Sermon to win the backup job. And he has a

649
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 2: very similar career arc to Zach Moss, where he was

650
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 2: drafting the round by his original team. Didn't pan out

651
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 2: with his original team, the Niners, but then he looked

652
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 2: a lot better in this Colt scheme. Last year he

653
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 2: had thirty five carries average four point six yards per attempt,

654
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 2: So I think he's probably the most likely back to

655
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 2: kind of be the Zach Moss number two role. And

656
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 2: as we saw last year, that that is important because,

657
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 2: as it turns out, Jonathan Taylor is human and he

658
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 2: can miss time. So I think it's important that they

659
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 2: at least have a viable number two back emerged from

660
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 2: this trio. So it'll just be interesting to see how

661
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 2: this shapes out.

662
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the Colts have one of the best offensive

663
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: lines in the league. You know, Smith and Raymond both

664
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: graded out top seven at PFF among tackles, and he

665
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 1: got Nelson on the inside, he got Kelly at center,

666
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: so very very good offensive line. So that that could,

667
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: you know, end up being relevant at some point. But

668
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: I wonder if I wonder if they they'd sign a

669
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: free agent because you know, I've seen the buzz about

670
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 1: Sermon and that he is, you know, that kind of

671
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: that next man up in terms of the carries. But

672
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: I at the same time, what gives me pause is

673
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: down the stretch last year, the whole reason Goodson was

674
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: even involved at all was because Sermon kind of started, well,

675
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: not started, but once uh, you know, once mid season

676
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: hit and Taylor and Moss were back in the fold,

677
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: Sermon was that number three back after whole I think

678
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: whole played one game got hurt. Sermon was that number

679
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: three back, and then down the stretch he started getting

680
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: you know, scratched, and they started keeping Goods in active.

681
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: So that's the only thing that gives me pause because

682
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: it still is the same coaching staff. So I wonder

683
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: if you see like a Miles Sanders trade or maybe

684
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: a Kareem Hunt or something like that, if if they're

685
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: worried about that role, because I mean, it seemed would

686
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 1: seem like a shame to just go into the year

687
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: with Tray Sermon, Evan Hull and h and Tyler Goodson

688
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: behind Jonathan Taro. With as good as your offensive line is,

689
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: you might you know, Richardson's our abilities in question. He's

690
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: the number two back. But you know, I could see

691
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: them trying to do something to make a move for

692
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: for another veteran them and the Cowboys. You know, I'm

693
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: on higher work, yeah for them, but and I mean,

694
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: you know, we'll move on. But another question, I my

695
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,959
Speaker 1: biggest question for the coat is are there cornerbacks gonna

696
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: hold up? Like you got who is a Juju Brentz

697
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 1: and Jalen Johnson projected to start in the outside that

698
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: couldn't get ugly, especially you got to play Houston twice

699
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: you gotta play Jacksonville twice, uh so and Tennessee with

700
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: uh you know, Ridley and Hopkins on the outside, So

701
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: that's not suddenly not the division to have two shaky

702
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: outside corners. More is always good, but he's a you know,

703
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: he's an interior guy. So that's that's my biggest question

704
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: for the coach, in addition to you know, what what

705
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: they ended up doing behind Taylor uh Texans. Speaking of cornerbacks,

706
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: you know, the offense is going to be great. We

707
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,720
Speaker 1: know Stroud is great. If if you don't think Stroud

708
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: is great, just go watch them. You know, look at

709
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: the numbers. Maybe yeah, I mean they're great, but just

710
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 1: go watch a few plays. I mean, this this guy,

711
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: the anticipation, the accuracy, and the arm strength ridiculous. And

712
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 1: so I don't really have many questions about this offense.

713
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: But I think the whole for me is that number

714
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: two corner spot. Derek Stingley was great last year. Steven

715
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: Nelson was also very good, but he retired, so you know,

716
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: he graded out number twenty nine of one hundred and

717
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 1: twenty seven corners at PFF last year. Did Nelson? Now

718
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: you're trying to replace him with a rookie in Kamari

719
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: Lassiter who could be very good or if but if

720
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: he doesn't, you know, if he kind of starts flowing

721
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: sometimes not like rookie cornerbacks don't always play well in

722
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: year one. I mean even Stingley, I don't think played

723
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: all that great in year one. Akuda never really panned out.

724
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: So you know, any thoughts as to you know, how

725
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: that's gonna kind of shape up? Because I mentioned it,

726
00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 1: this division suddenly has a pretty decent crop of perimeter receivers,

727
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: you know. Now the Colts got Pittman and Mitchell.

728
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 2: You know, it's a tough situation. Lassitter, you know, he

729
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 2: had a pretty rough combat. He was expected to go

730
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 2: in the first round, pretty rough combine, so he fell

731
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 2: in the second round. A lot of pressure on him

732
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 2: this year, so it'll be interesting to see. You know.

733
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 2: I think that the defensive line, you know, like Will

734
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 2: Anderson stepping up this year, getting you know, a ton

735
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 2: of pressure will help the secondary. So I think they're

736
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 2: going to ask defensive line to help out there. But

737
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 2: as you kind of alluded to this, this division has

738
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 2: a lot of good receivers. And we were talking about

739
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 2: the Colts, but the Colts have good receivers too, So

740
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 2: this is a division where you definitely want to have

741
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 2: a strong quarterback play. So yeah, I'll be interesting to

742
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 2: see how this shapes out.

743
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: All Right, the next team is the Jacksonville Jaguars in

744
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: the AFC South. What are you thinking with the Jags

745
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: finished with a winning record last year, but it was

746
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: not really the season a hope for you know, missed

747
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: the playoffs, Trevor Lawrence missed a couple of games. What

748
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: do you what are you kind of thinking about?

749
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 2: Four guests? Just will Trevor Lawrence take the next step,

750
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 2: because you know, after the twenty twenty two season, you know,

751
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 2: he finished seventh in EPA per play, He really looked

752
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 2: like he was about to become the elite quarterback he

753
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 2: was expected to be. But then last season he really

754
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 2: dropped off, finished twenty fourth and EPA per play, And

755
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 2: as you alluded to, you know, he was dealing with

756
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,919
Speaker 2: some pretty significant injuries. You know, props them for playing

757
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 2: through some of them, but you know, it's still disappointing

758
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 2: to see him take that big of a drop off

759
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 2: right when you think he's gonna breakout. So you know,

760
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 2: he's still twenty four He's entering year four, so he

761
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 2: could still you know, end up being a top five,

762
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 2: top ten quarterback in the league. And I think this

763
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 2: year will be a pretty key moment in that. I

764
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 2: guess it doesn't matter for the Jacks already invested in him,

765
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,439
Speaker 2: you know, two hundred and seventy of my two hundred

766
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 2: and seventy five million for five years, so further investment.

767
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 2: They're just hoping that this year he does, you know,

768
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 2: take that leap that we saw in twenty twenty two.

769
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 2: But that's that's something I'll be looking for, is if

770
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 2: he can really make the case that he, you know,

771
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 2: he's one of the elite quarterbacks in the league because

772
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 2: we've seen glimpse of of it, but he just hasn't

773
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 2: been consistent and they really need that to happen for

774
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 2: them to be like a Super Bowl contender type team.

775
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

776
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 2: I think his.

777
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: He played better than his numbers last year. You know,

778
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: he only threw twenty one passing touchdowns, had a touchdown

779
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: rate under four. But you know, there are a lot

780
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: of near misses, I do think, and the same concerns

781
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: hol true this year. You know, he was at his

782
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: I think he was kind of at his best when

783
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: you know he had that that crew with Kirk and

784
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: Ingram in the Joneses, Zay and Marvin, you know, the veterans,

785
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: and now it just seems like every year they're kind

786
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: of switching up the receivers out out of Kirk and Ingram.

787
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: And last year the chemistry with Ridley was touching go

788
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: you know, even though he was a talented player. And

789
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: now you're looking at a rookie in Brian Thomas Junior

790
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 1: that you know could be an upgrade in the long

791
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: term and their answer, but you know that there's there's

792
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: some kind of downside there which you know they could

793
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: not be on the same page to start. And also

794
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: Gave Davis is a guy who you know, very you know, workman,

795
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: wide receiver, great deep threat, but also a guy who

796
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: makes a ton of mistakes and you know, known to

797
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: drop a lot of passes. So you could you could

798
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: see another kind of underwhelming season for Lawrence and you know,

799
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: maybe he just settles in as like a you know,

800
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: a top like uh, you know what, a ten to

801
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: fifteen guy instead of the you know, top six guy

802
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 1: right right right, you know, and he'll have he'll he'll

803
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,439
Speaker 1: pop you know, he'll have like remember how Matt Ryan

804
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: had that big Super Bowl years. At some point point,

805
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: I don't doubt that Trevor Lawrence will pop. But this year,

806
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: just with all the newness at receiver at on the perimeter,

807
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: not not my favorite, uh you know, situation for Lawrence

808
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: to just have a ceiling year. But but I will

809
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: say I do think he he he played better than

810
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: than what his numbers were a season ago. UH Tennessee

811
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: Titans new look. Brian Callahan comes over from the Cincinnati Bengals,

812
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: former offensive coordinator there. Now he's the head coach in Tennessee,

813
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: so this will be UH an offense crafted in his image.

814
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: They upgrade the skill positions. You know, added Calvin Ridley

815
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: alongside Hopkins. Uh they added Tony Poward alongside tay J.

816
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: Spears and and and Derrick Henry's now in Baltimore. But overall,

817
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: I think the skill position players are pretty solid. You know,

818
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd is there. Treylon Burke's you know, hearing some

819
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: some positive buzz from him out of camp. But as

820
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: we've been worried with Tennessee, but he's last few years,

821
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: it seems like what is gonna be of the tackle situation.

822
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: How how well can these guys protect Will Levis? Because

823
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: I think if they can protect Will Levis, uh, you

824
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: know the skill position players, he's gonna and he can,

825
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: he can, he can sling it like they're gonna have

826
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: some success. But you have a rookie high draft pick J. C.

827
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: Layton slatted in at a left tackle, and then Nicholas

828
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: petite Freere. I hope I pronounced that right, who was

829
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 1: just terrible last year thirty five point five PFF grade

830
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: twenty seven point seven pass blocking, one of the worst tackles,

831
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: if not the worst grade to tackle in the league.

832
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 1: So this is another situation where the offensive line could

833
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: end up impacting the like fantasy production, real life production

834
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: of this passing game. What do you think about about

835
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: the the old line, specifically the tackles for the Titans.

836
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 2: There, I mean, they're probably gonna be one of the

837
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 2: worst offensive lines in the league league again, but I

838
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 2: did like the Latham h pick. Peter Skronsky was pretty

839
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 2: solid as a rookie, like he's only going to get better.

840
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 2: And I guess the the offensive line. You know, they've

841
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 2: been such a run heavy team with Derrick Henry the

842
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 2: last handful of years. I do agree that they're gonna

843
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 2: have to switch to more you know, pass protection this

844
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 2: this will probably be a more pass heavy offense, which

845
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 2: will be a new look. So it's gonna be a

846
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 2: different ass from the offensive line. So it'll be interesting

847
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 2: to see how it shapes out. I still think that again,

848
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 2: they're gonna they're gonna be one of the worst offensive

849
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,760
Speaker 2: lines and you know, make it really tough for Levis.

850
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 2: So you know, hopefully they can scheme up plays to

851
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 2: kind of get rid of the ball quickly or something

852
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 2: like that. But I still think that there's a lot

853
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 2: of concerns about this offensive line.

854
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the guy I'm really gonna be watching

855
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 1: his wait them because if he can hit the ground running,

856
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,959
Speaker 1: it changes the whole tenor of this offensive line. Because

857
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: you did pick up Lloyd Cushion Berry the third at

858
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: center in free agency. He graded out of the top

859
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: ten center last year, top three in pass blocking, so

860
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 1: that you know, having you know, quality player at the pivot.

861
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: And then you know you mentioned Scarnsky, who pretty good,

862
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: i'd say a plus interior lineman. And then you know

863
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 1: Brunskill is kind of a veteran journeyman, but he's also

864
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,439
Speaker 1: I would say average at worst, you know, average, maybe

865
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 1: slightly above. So if they can get weight them playing well,

866
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: then then their only weakness really is right tackle, and

867
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: you can do some things with you know, you can

868
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: weave the tight end in the block or running back

869
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: because you have those three wide receivers that you're going

870
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: to be wanting to throw to. So I think if

871
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: we hear positive reports out of out of camp on

872
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: weight them, I think that changes a lot. And I

873
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: think then that's the pass to Tennessee being you know,

874
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: a solid offensive line. But if he's if he struggles

875
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: in year one like Evan Neal or something like that,

876
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: then then it's gonna be uh, it's gonna be an issue.

877
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 2: I mean, he he played right tackle in college and

878
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 2: they're going to ask him to play left tackle, which

879
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 2: is kind of annoying. I was kind of hoping, you know,

880
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 2: Joe Alt would end up in Tennessee and Latham would

881
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 2: end up in Chargers. But you know, there's a lot

882
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 2: of annoying things about the draft, but that would have

883
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 2: been a better fit for both teams. But you know,

884
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 2: he's going to have to learn a new position, essentially

885
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 2: on the left side. Which can cause some problems, like

886
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: like we've seen in the past, all let's go.

887
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: To the a f C North a k a. The

888
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: uh AFC Central. Was it back in the day that

889
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 1: you always makes fun of me because I.

890
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 2: Division?

891
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: No, No, I didn't say, I said the Central, which

892
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 1: was then actual football division. I know, like come on,

893
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: I know my basketball football.

894
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 2: Uh No.

895
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,959
Speaker 1: So let's start with the Steelers. How are they going

896
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 1: to find a way to what is the nine wins

897
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: they need to to keep the Tomlins Street going? How

898
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 1: are they going to do that? And what do you

899
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: what do you uh? What's your biggest question mark for Yeah?

900
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 2: Just you know, will Justin Fields at least challenged Russe

901
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 2: Wilson for the starting quarterback job, and it sounds like

902
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 2: the chances are pretty slim for Fields to actually beat out,

903
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 2: you know, healthy Russe Wilson to be the team's Week

904
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 2: one starter. You know, Wilson, his brief stint in Denver

905
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 2: was a disaster, but the Steelers will probably want to

906
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 2: see if they can somehow regain his form from Seattle,

907
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 2: where he was on track to be a potential, you know,

908
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame quarterback. So I think that this is

909
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 2: Russ Wilson's job to lose now in season, if he

910
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 2: starts struggling, it's going to be relevant that the backup

911
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 2: is Justin Fields, you know, arguably the best backup quarterback

912
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 2: entering week one. So I think that's when we might

913
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 2: see some you know, controversy surrounding it. So I'm not

914
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 2: expecting too much of a battle necessarily in training camp

915
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 2: or preseason, but you know, preseason will be the time

916
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 2: for Justin Fields to really showcase, you know, his development.

917
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 2: I believe this is what is third or fourth year,

918
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 2: but that that will be his time to really prove

919
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 2: it on the field that that you know, he's taking

920
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,439
Speaker 2: that next step. But I think in season this could

921
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 2: be interesting again if Russell Wilson struggles in this new

922
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 2: scheme and Justin Field is you know, waiting to come in.

923
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 2: But yeah, this is one of the more fascinating QB

924
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 2: rooms in the league. Unfortunately, you know, I think they

925
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 2: decide on Russell Wilson starting Week one, but still this

926
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 2: is something I'll be watching throughout camp and throughout the

927
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:32,760
Speaker 2: season very closely.

928
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like the Steelers in Russell Wilson is

929
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: like you know, when you're you're a Bachelor and you're

930
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: at a bar and it's like it's it's like close

931
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: to closing time and you're just looking around and you're

932
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 1: trying to you just grab anyone you can and get

933
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: out of there. And I feel like that's that's Russell

934
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: Wilson to them. But that's gonna wear off at some point.

935
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: And personally, like just my objective, you know, evaluation. I

936
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: I thought, in many ways Justin Fields was better than

937
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson last year. I thought most of Russell Wilson's

938
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: successes I would credit to Sean Payton and him kind

939
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:13,280
Speaker 1: of essentially hiding Wilson and making it so that offense

940
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 1: could could be, you know, functional without Wilson just torpedoing it.

941
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: But I mean Fields has his wards. You know, his

942
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: processing speed is very slow. But I think he's a

943
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: better mover at this point. I think he's a better

944
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: and I actually think he's got more upside as a

945
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: thrower because Russell Wilson just has gone into a shell.

946
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: I mean he just he takes a look at his

947
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:34,959
Speaker 1: first read if it's not there, it's like he's looking

948
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: down at the ground or like it's not even always running,

949
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: he always gets lost in a bunch of bodies around

950
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,919
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. I mean I I so yes,

951
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: My answer to your question is yes, at some point

952
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: fields will but it will probably take longer than it should,

953
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: just like it took longer than it should for the

954
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: Steelers to make a change at offensive coordinator. The Cincinnati Bengals,

955
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: they have that last play schedule this year after you

956
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 1: know the Buorrow injury. But you know, stolid all around

957
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: team I think in prime position to to to challenge

958
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: the Chiefs for for AFC supremacy here along with the

959
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,399
Speaker 1: Texans and a few others. But do they have enough

960
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: at pass catcher after Jamar Chase and t Higgins. I

961
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: mean this is you know, usually you had got dependable

962
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: guys like Tyler Boyd Joe Mixon. You had like veteran

963
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: tight ends like Hurst and and Uh and Smith and whatnot.

964
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,240
Speaker 1: And and now it's you got you know, Burton, the rookie,

965
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: Joseph a second year man, Jones, second year man at

966
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 1: wide receiver tight end I mean GISEKEI Uh never really

967
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: panned out. You still got sample Hudson, You drafted a

968
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: couple of rookies and then you know the the backfield,

969
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: you have Zach Mawson and Chase Brown. Brown's good in

970
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 1: the screen game. Uh, but you know, overall, I do

971
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: think there are some question marks, uh at at pass catcher.

972
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,919
Speaker 1: So do you think, you know, Burrow is just gonna

973
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: kind of make somebody into a star or not a star,

974
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: but you know, into a great third option. Or are

975
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: the Bengals kind of spread a little thin here behind

976
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:08,720
Speaker 1: Chase and T Higgins.

977
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 2: No, I think they have enough, And honestly, that's all

978
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 2: that matters. You already have one of the best wide

979
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 2: receiver duos in the league and Jamar Chase and T Higgins,

980
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 2: so it doesn't matter too much. But I like Jermaine

981
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 2: Burton as a rookie. He only went in the third

982
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 2: round because of some off field concerns, but he probably

983
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,720
Speaker 2: could have gone early second round based on tall alone.

984
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 2: Josevash if you remember last year, I was excited for

985
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 2: him for potentially, you know, replacing Higgins in this offense

986
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,919
Speaker 2: this year, so he could be a solid number three receiver.

987
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 2: Charlie Jones as well, pretty good sluck guy. He was,

988
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 2: you know, coming back from a torn labram last year.

989
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 2: I considered that a red shirt season. So they have

990
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 2: plenty of guys to step up. I just hope to

991
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 2: God that Trent Irwin isn't the guy, Please get him

992
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 2: out of there. And you know, a tight end, it

993
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 2: seems like every year they have a new like kind

994
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 2: of has been guy that probably still has some upside

995
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 2: at tight end. And Mikeasiki, I think he could pan

996
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 2: out on this offense. I've been waiting for Gasiki to

997
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 2: get to a more tight end friendly scheme. So yeah,

998
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 2: I think they have enough. And as long as Chase

999
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 2: and Higgins are both healthy, I don't think it'll matter.

1000
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 2: But you know, if Chase or Higgins goes down, that's

1001
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 2: when the depth will obviously matter. And I think guys

1002
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 2: like Joseph bash Burton and Charlie Jones can step up.

1003
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,280
Speaker 2: Because Tyler Boyd, you know, he he he was obviously

1004
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 2: a solid number three receiver, but the last couple of

1005
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 2: seasons he has been showing some signs of decline and

1006
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:34,879
Speaker 2: they've been just fine. So I think this is still

1007
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,439
Speaker 2: an offense that's going to be supported by Joe Burrow

1008
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 2: and he'll make some of these guys you know, better

1009
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 2: receivers just based on being an excellent quarterback it's.

1010
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: Gonna be Irwin like we know it, we know it.

1011
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: It's it's we know it. And yeah, I'm good for him. Baltimore,

1012
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:54,439
Speaker 1: what do you what do you? What are you thinking

1013
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: with the Ravens who came a game plan away from

1014
00:53:59,400 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 1: going to the.

1015
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well that sets up my question perfectly is

1016
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 2: just how will this offense look with Derrick Henry? You know,

1017
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 2: one of the best running backs of the past decade

1018
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 2: is now on the Ravens. And it seems to be

1019
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 2: of their way of admitting their mistake of you know,

1020
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 2: not running the ball against the Chiefs at all in

1021
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 2: the playoffs last year. I know that that killed your

1022
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 2: gus prop. It was looking good, but they they just

1023
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 2: abandoned the run. I have no no clue why they

1024
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 2: did that. But having Henry in this offense is a

1025
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,399
Speaker 2: game changer. I think defenses already have a hard enough

1026
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 2: time trying to contain you know, Lamar Jackson, but now

1027
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 2: having to worry about Derrick Henry back there, you know,

1028
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 2: could open things up in the running and passing game

1029
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 2: for both players. So I just love this fit. And plus,

1030
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 2: you know, the Ravens are a team that tend to

1031
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 2: be leading more often than not, and that's really when

1032
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 2: Henry thrives. So you know, they can really open up

1033
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 2: the playbook with the lead, you know, build off play.

1034
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:05,240
Speaker 2: So you know, this is a fantastic fit for both sides.

1035
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 2: And you know, I mentioned on our Fancy Pod that

1036
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 2: I estimated Henry would have had four to five more

1037
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 2: rushing touchdowns last year in this offense. So you know,

1038
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 2: I think he's going to get more goal line chances.

1039
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson isn't a quarterback. They tend to use a

1040
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 2: lot around the goal line. A lot of his touchdowns

1041
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 2: are longer runs. So I think this is just a

1042
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 2: great fit for Henry in terms of fancy purposes, in

1043
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 2: terms of real life purposes, and yeah, maybe this will

1044
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 2: incentivize the Ravens to actually run the ball when there's

1045
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 2: a situation where that does make sense.

1046
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the Ravens have a wide range of outcomes

1047
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: this year. I think last year was the year to

1048
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 1: kind of invest in them now, you know, because they

1049
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,439
Speaker 1: kind of struggled the year before and they were able

1050
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: to to kind of bounce back.

1051
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 2: Now.

1052
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: I think the Bengals are in that position. I do

1053
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: have questions about, you know, the offensive line you know,

1054
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 1: it was Ronnie Stanley stay healthy, you lost some guys

1055
00:55:55,360 --> 00:56:00,760
Speaker 1: on the interior, you got Rosengarten probably start to right tackle.

1056
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: How well is he going to play? And then you know,

1057
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 1: cornerback is also an issue, so you know, the game

1058
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 1: scripts could go a lot of different ways. I'm also curious,

1059
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 1: is you know, do you think they're gonna use more

1060
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 1: two tight end sets? You know, it would seem if

1061
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: you're going with more run game and Henry, you might

1062
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: also want to get the two tight ends likely and

1063
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: Andrews on the field, because I think that's better than

1064
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: you know, trotting out Agalar or Deontay Hardier, whoever it

1065
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,439
Speaker 1: would be, you know, at the number three receiver, unless

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00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: Devonte's Walker, you know, breaks out early in his career

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00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: and it takes one of the spots on the outside.

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00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 1: But any do you think you think there's gonna be

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00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 1: more We're gonna get more likely this year?

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00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that that would make a ton of sense.

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00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 2: I likely, I have to think about all the depth charts,

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00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 2: but I would say he's the best backup tight end

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00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 2: in all of football, so that that would make sense

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00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 2: to kind of tailor the offense that way. They also

1075
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 2: need Rashaan Bateman to finally break out. You know, he

1076
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 2: was a highly talented prospect, hasn't really panned out quite yet.

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00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 2: But if he were to break out some two wide

1078
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 2: receiver sets, two tight end sets with Henry back there,

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00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 2: I think that that would definitely make a ton of sense.

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00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like the Ravens, they like they kind of they

1081
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 1: kind of scare me a little bit. I don't know,

1082
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: I think I'm a little lower than the market on them,

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00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: just because I feel like there's a lot of things

1084
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: that can kind of or there's like this year. Last

1085
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: year there was like more things that can go right

1086
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 1: than wrong, and you had the you know, the new

1087
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: offense and catch everyone off guard and Lamar end up

1088
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: winning the MVP. But now it's like, yeah, Henry great addition,

1089
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: great fit, but he's thirty. You know, does he hold

1090
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: can he hold up? You know, the line has questions,

1091
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 1: the corners have questions, so you might not be in

1092
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: as many positive game scripts.

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00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 2: You know.

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00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: It's just there's just a lot of different ways this

1095
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: could go. So that that's the team I'll be monitoring,

1096
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: but I'll probably be a little bit. I'll probably be

1097
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 1: fading them more often than not this year.

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00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, that's that's true. I'm not saying they

1099
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 2: over on the Wintell or something, but as I think,

1100
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 2: as long as Lamar stays healthy, they'll be fine, you know.

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00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 2: They that's another They they lost Tyler Huntley, they have

1102
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 2: Josh Johnson and then two quarterbacks. I couldn't even tell

1103
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 2: you a thing about them. So they just really need

1104
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 2: him to stay healthy now because the years pass. You know,

1105
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 2: Huntley was okay, you know, he'd bright the ship for

1106
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 2: a little bit, but they definitely cannot afford Lamarta miss

1107
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 2: anytime this year, and he's.

1108
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: Kind of made it a habit of doing that. That's

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00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 1: another reason I think there's just there's a lot of

1110
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: downside for the Ravens this year when you're kind of

1111
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 1: you know, you have to kind of buy them a

1112
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: little higher, you know, almost top of the market because

1113
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: they almost went to the super Bowl last year. So yeah,

1114
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 1: that's that's just how I'm looking at the Ravens, at

1115
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 1: least for now, as we head into camp and let's

1116
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: close it out with the Cleveland Football Browns. Deshaun Watson.

1117
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: I mean I've asked you this before. Is he is

1118
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: he broken or like, you know, six and a half

1119
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: yards per attempt in twenty twenty two coming back, and

1120
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 1: then six and a half yards per attempt last year

1121
00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:00,040
Speaker 1: on one hundred and seventy attempts in both years, we

1122
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: should rate right around sixty overall four point one percent

1123
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: touchdown rate, just nowhere near the numbers that that he

1124
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: put up in Houston. You do have, Judy, do have?

1125
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 1: You know, Cooper's getting a little older, but he was

1126
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: a monster last year and Joka was a monster, but

1127
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 1: everyone played better without Watson for the most part. So

1128
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: you know, what are your thoughts on Watson? You know,

1129
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 1: is he can in a tough division? Can he regain form?

1130
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 1: And can you lead this team, you know to a

1131
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:31,959
Speaker 1: playoff birth or potential division title?

1132
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 2: I mean, who knows, That's that's the question, right But

1133
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 2: you know, by most metrics, he was you know, outside

1134
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 2: the top twenty and quarterbacks and that just won't do

1135
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 2: it based on his contract. And you know, Joe Flacca

1136
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 2: looked totally fine in this offense. You know, he was incredible.

1137
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 2: So it's not the scheme, it's not the pass catchers.

1138
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 2: It's got to be Watson, whether that's you know, rust

1139
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 2: physically or just you know mentally from how long he

1140
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 2: was away and you know why he was away remains

1141
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 2: to be seen. But this is certainly a make or

1142
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 2: break year for him because if he doesn't get going

1143
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 2: this year, it's got to be him. But you know,

1144
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 2: bringing in a guy like Jerry Judy could help. He has,

1145
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 2: you know, excellent pass catchers with Amari Cooper, David Njoku

1146
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 2: looks like a stud. We always knew he was a stud,

1147
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 2: but I mean, he is legit right now, So if

1148
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 2: he can't make it work this year, it's got to

1149
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 2: be him, and there's no more excuses at that point.

1150
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, last year, there's nothing he could really point

1151
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 2: to where it's like, oh okay, maybe he still got it.

1152
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 2: It was just everything beneath the surface, and like visiit

1153
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 2: when you're watching him, he just doesn't look the way

1154
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 2: he did at the Texans. So it's really hard to

1155
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 2: see him regaining that form. You just hope that he

1156
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 2: becomes like an average quarterback at this point to like

1157
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 2: slightly above average, but it doesn't look like he's ever

1158
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 2: going to regain that, you know, potential top five form

1159
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 2: we saw in Houston.

1160
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Browns are another team that you know, had a

1161
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 1: very good season last year. A lot of things could

1162
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 1: go wrong this year. I mean besides just Watson, now

1163
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 1: you don't even have Flacco. You know, Jamis Winston is

1164
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 1: kind of like that. But you know, you might trying

1165
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: to catch lightning in a bottle. Jerry Judy. I mean,

1166
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 1: you know, there's there's people that that that don't like

1167
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: him at all. You know how he fitted Cooper's getting older,

1168
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 1: Like is Nadjoku the same guy with Watson. Nick Chubb,

1169
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 1: who's been the heart and soul this team and this offense,

1170
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: he's gone. They you know, Alex vand Pelt moves on

1171
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 1: like this. A lot of changes going on with Cleveland.

1172
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, in this division, I like I like Cincinnati.

1173
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 1: I think Cincinnati's really stands out to me, you know,

1174
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 1: among all these among all these other teams, even though

1175
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 1: they had the worst season last year. But be sure

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01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,600
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