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Richard has been 25 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: incarcerated since n serving over thirty two years of his 26 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: ninety years sentence. Richard is now seventy one years old 27 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: and has grown immensely as a person while incarcerated. He 28 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: has accepted responsibility for his actions in his past, and 29 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: as he quotes, I say, I am remorseful for everything 30 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: that I have done that is unlawful, and fully embraces 31 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: every opportunity to better himself and those around him. As 32 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: a result of Richard's good behavior in good time credits, 33 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: he has a release dates for August two, but because 34 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: of COVID nineteen, that day is now here. Now we 35 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: have him via zoom with us. Richard, thank you so 36 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: much for coming on. I want to start off with 37 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: how much weed did you have on you that got 38 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: you incarcerated and walk us down the story of how 39 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: you got arrested. Well, I actually had no weed on me. 40 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: It was actually the reverse thing. It's what they called, 41 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: you know, that's when the police and a confidential informant 42 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 1: sets you up. It was it was an old friend 43 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: of mine that owed me some money for an aircraft 44 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: that he had stole and crashed um while I was 45 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: in prison, and I was actually trying to collect the 46 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: monday that he owed me, and instead he you know, 47 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: he was working with the FDL and all the other 48 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: organizations I believe, I believe Elizabeth knows the names of 49 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: older right what the Confidential Department was working with, the 50 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: d A, N I R S, the Federal Bureau, his 51 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: bacco and UH firearms and all of just different all 52 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,399 Speaker 1: the different government organizations that he was receiving a check 53 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: from each of them. So so you know, it's so 54 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: crazy that they actually thought that this guy was legit, 55 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And meanwhile he was just 56 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: stealing from everywhere he could. He was taken from every 57 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: organization and they were paying him with fifty doll and 58 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,839 Speaker 1: grell bills. That's the best part at all. And when 59 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: I went to trial, I found out that he was 60 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: worth like I don't know, fourteen or two million or something. 61 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: It's a ridiculous number. And they didn't even care. You 62 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: always say what's happy was that that he was doing 63 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: that job for him, you know. And then and all 64 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: that did was just agree he set up the plans 65 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: in motion to bringing hundred pounds of cannabis from first 66 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: it was gonna be Columbia and then Jamaica. And I 67 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: that change in countries that the actual informant had made 68 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: the decision of, they were able to charge Richard with 69 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: an extra charge of conspiracy to traffic cannabis from one 70 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: hundred to two thousand pounds. So he got hit with 71 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: an extra charge for a change that he didn't even 72 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: make the decision for What state? Did this all happen? 73 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: Out of Lara, Florida? Wow? Now, now do you speak Spanish? 74 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: Do you speak? I said, do you speak Spanish? Yeah? 75 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: She said, no, He's Italian. What the hell are you 76 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: doing in Colombia? I had had in complicators and stuff 77 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 1: I've wound up in Columbia in the old days. I 78 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: had border coffee plant fish down that that's what they 79 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: call it at the age. But I don't know if 80 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: you remember Santa Matta gold Uh, the name that sounds 81 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: sounds familiar. All right, what do you shot that strain? Now? 82 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: To go all this stuff. But that's the only thing 83 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: that I ever smuggled in my life was Santa Matta 84 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: Gold got you? So coffee beans was your was your 85 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: come up? I'm sorry, slinging coffee beans? Was your job 86 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: back in the days after? Would your come up? No? No, 87 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: I had decide the coffee plantation because I bought it 88 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: and I was shoot and it was a beautiful you know. 89 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: Now when when they when they you know, arrested this 90 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: and I mean the the informant, was he previously arrested? 91 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: And is this someone that you knew for multiple years? 92 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: He's been arrested so many times it was ridiculous. And 93 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: let him get away with bringing four hundred fifty kibos 94 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: a matter of cocaine into the country. Wow wow, So 95 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: he was They're gonna do so much stuff. And when 96 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: he was on parole approbation or something, he was driving 97 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: down the road, but police pulled them over and they 98 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: own destruct and they found the machine gun in that 99 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: you bet to sell. Now, this guy just got on 100 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: the phone, We got on the radio or whatever with 101 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: the police and got in touch with this guy called 102 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: Bill Wool from the FDL. He backed the way, now, 103 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: but you got him out of it every time. Wow, 104 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: So Richard, as this guy's your buddy, like Blue said, 105 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: how long did you know this guy before you started 106 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: going down this path with him? Oh? I knew him. 107 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: I knew him a real long time. He was a 108 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: three personal friend of mine. And you didn't know about 109 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: his past working with the FBI and all that other ship. Oh, 110 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: he wasn't doing that when I went to prison. That's 111 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 1: when he started doing all that. So wait, and when 112 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: did you first go to prison? In nineteen m Richard 113 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: and his brother for the first racketeering marijuana case in Florida. 114 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: They have been operating a pretty significant operation and um, 115 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: you know, the agents, the officers who worked on the case, 116 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: the prosecutors, they all wanted Richard and his brother ted 117 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: to get, you know, a significant amount of prison time, 118 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: and they didn't get that. They got a couple of 119 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: years each. And so then once Richard was out during 120 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: that time period as well, the informant was also in prison. 121 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: So while the informant was in prison, he was approached 122 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: by the different agents and he became an informant during 123 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: that and then when Richard was released, because when the 124 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: informant started approaching him, multiple times to try to get 125 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: him to take the bait so that way these agents, 126 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: you know, could get that solid, big way that they 127 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: had wanted. And at that point you you thought you 128 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: were just dealing with your buddy and that was it, 129 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: I imagine Richard, right, did they ever ask you, Richard 130 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: to to roll over and being an forman as well? 131 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sure you're a good man, sir. There's no 132 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: rat in your blood. Huh. I'm gonna kindly we don't 133 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: play that. That's right. Yeah, there are certain rules. I agree, man, 134 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: That's why I ask who regulation? No. I know, you know, 135 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: I I I understand, you know, we all agree with 136 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: you as well. Yeah, it's it's it's not right. So 137 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: let me let me say this. Um, you know, what 138 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 1: was it? And you know, I mean you just answered 139 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: the best your ability. Was it pretty much all just cannabis? 140 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 1: Or was there you know, because I know when you 141 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: started moving in a lot of cannabis, a lot of 142 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: other things start coming into play, right, So you know, 143 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 1: was there other things that were being involved or is 144 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: that something you can't talk about. I'm always on a 145 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: runway in Colombia. We were loading, um loading one of 146 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: my DC fours I don't know if you know what 147 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: kind of aircraft that is. No, it's a giant four 148 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: engine aircraft that you could drive a couple of trafic thousand. Okay, alright, 149 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: So I used to put about twenty five thousand pounds 150 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: of cannabis. Yes, And then one day I was out 151 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: there and and these other Columbians are out there and 152 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: one of their friends didn't show up, and they had, 153 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: like I think they had twenty I keep twenty thousand 154 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: kids of coke. But this way it was the size 155 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 1: of have tractic trailers hand us over it? Right? Did 156 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: that come from his joint George Young Souther aeroplane that 157 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: was supposed to come get it? And the guy said 158 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: to me, hey, man, uh you know, he said to 159 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: my my Columbia connection said, hey, tell you tell they 160 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: used to call me total down there. Total. So he said, um, 161 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: Chiefs Totro will take this back on his air plane 162 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: instead of a weed and he doesn't have to pay us, 163 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: you know, for a couple of months, and we'll charge 164 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: you this and after the things. And I told him, 165 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: I said, he listen, buddy, I don't handle none of 166 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. That stuff kills people. Yeah, I 167 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 1: told him right there on the spot, I said, I 168 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 1: like to bring stuff that makes people feel good themselves 169 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: and makes their body feel good. And the guy, the 170 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: guy couldn't comprehend that that I didn't want to make 171 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: millions and millions and millions of dollars. And I just 172 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: called him, that's just not me and my brother, you know, Yeah, 173 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: we had that opportunity so many times that I would 174 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: never do it, you know. You know, I share that 175 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: story with you because because my father and I, you know, 176 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: we're a little team for a lot of years allegedly, 177 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: and and um we uh we we did a lot 178 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: of men, push a lot of weight. We we've done 179 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: a lot of moves ourselves, you know. And and through 180 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: that process, there was so many times that that we've 181 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: been approached with that, you know, people would say, hey, 182 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 1: you know, do this or throw that in there, and 183 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: let's do that, and it was just like now we're good. 184 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: We're good. You know. My dad would always preach to me, 185 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: He's like, you know, we we don't we don't sell 186 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: that ship that she gets you killed. You know, it's 187 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: like it kills people, Yeah, it gets it gets you killed. 188 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: It kills people. He's like, we don't do that, and 189 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: so it was just always off limits, you know. So 190 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: and I know I know that that ethical. You know 191 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 1: that moment you're like, God, but the money looks so good, 192 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: but you're just going now, we can't make that play. 193 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: So one, I appreciate you for that, because a lot 194 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: of people can't. You know, Um, a lot of people 195 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: are just in it for the money and fucking if 196 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: I'm there and we can load it up, let me 197 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 1: get some more money. Yeah. Yeah, So you know I 198 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: was into a kiss for the money. I was into 199 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: it because me and my friends liked it, you know 200 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: what I mean, And we like the way it made 201 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: it Still. I used to say to my brother. I 202 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: remember when I was like fourteen and I and I 203 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: got a high. I had heard my ankle and I 204 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: was smoking joining with my brother and I said to 205 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: my brother, I said something, my ankle feels so much better. 206 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 1: And he said, to me, get out of here. It's 207 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: only because your phone. I said, then, I'm telling you 208 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 1: this stuff's gotten something something to do with doing something 209 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: in your body besides just getting high, you know what 210 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: I mean. And after that, my brother was a pure believer. 211 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: After that, because he knew I would tell him something. 212 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: Me and my brother are very very close, you know. 213 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: And did your brother did time with you as well? 214 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 1: Or did he? He got out of seven years or 215 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 1: seven I think seven or eight years early because he 216 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: was able to win an appeal on his conspiracy to 217 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: traffic conviction. So they had both been charged with racketeering 218 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: and then trafficing hannabis and conspiracy to traffic and then 219 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: the judge gave them thirty years the charges and then 220 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: to run them um consecutively so to abount to the 221 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: ninety years. So each of them were supposed to have 222 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: done the ninety years. But luckily Ted had won that 223 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: appeal that he got out early. And the best pot 224 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: was I only quote for twelve to seven game, and 225 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 1: the pro probation off in Polk County in Florida said no, no, 226 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: just give twelve, and they gave me three thirties run 227 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: a while. Wow idea altogether, that's crazy. Yes, So Elizabeth Um, 228 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: when did you take on this case, What made you 229 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: decide to take on this case, How did it how 230 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: did it come to you? So back in the early 231 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: time of quarantine, I was online and I had seen 232 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: the last Prisoner Projects had a video of how you 233 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: could help, you know, people serving these lengthy sentences for 234 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: non violent cannabis offenses. So I sent them an email 235 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: that I wanted to volunteer, and a couple of weeks 236 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: later they emailed back saying they had Richard Deleesy here. 237 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: He actually was in the same county, is meet Palm 238 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: Beach County. His home was about thirty five minutes away 239 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: from mine, and so from there I was spared with 240 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: two other attorneys and we worked, you know, around the 241 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 1: clock to try to you know, try to get him 242 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: early release. We first tried with the clemency route and 243 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: that was a novo so um. Finally we were able 244 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: to raise enough attention and awareness that somebody at the 245 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: Florida Department of Corrections went in and found every day 246 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: possible of gain time to give Richard, and so that 247 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: way he would get out early. Because while we were 248 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: trying to make the argument that the virus was a threat, 249 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: they were not. They're not releasing people in Florida because 250 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: of the COVID nineteen and well, it doesn't exist in Florida, right. 251 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: Everything's open and all that good stuff, bar anything you want, 252 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: you can go to. But he's trying to safe even 253 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: though he's waited so long to see everything. We went 254 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: and saw them hard new hard rock casino out here, 255 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: everything these days. He did he buy a drink. That's 256 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: Elizabeth the lawyer. We have Richard Delicy serving a ninety 257 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: years sentence, did not serve the full ninety When we 258 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: come back, Richard, I want to ask you how you 259 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: felt when these lawyers came into the cell and to 260 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: the president's head, we're gonna get you out. It's Cannabis 261 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: Talk one oh one. We'll be right back after this 262 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: turned the typical into something special. When it comes to 263 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: infuse products, the flavor you taste should be just as 264 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: enjoyable as the feeling you experience. Visit the website at 265 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: loran Oils dot com. Welcome back to Cannabis Talking one 266 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: on one. Joe Grande was talking about Richard Delice. You're 267 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: in prison and I don't know how many people may 268 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: have approached you before with you know, a cannabis case, 269 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: going this is bullshit. You can't be getting ninety years 270 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: for cannabis. But I'm gonna roll the dice and say 271 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: there's probably been a you. How did you feel when 272 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: Elizabeth and her team walk in or how did that 273 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: all happen? When they approach you, going, I think we 274 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: want to work on this case to help you get out. Well, 275 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: I didn't you really start when Elizabeth and the Last 276 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: Prisoner project, it started out as, UM, I don't know 277 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: if you have she uh free dot com? No, not 278 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: familiar with that. Freely she dot com was the first movement, 279 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: and that's more or less. I guess you actually found 280 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: out about Actually I did see your website. Sorry I 281 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: didn't understand you. Yes, your website. I did see that, 282 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: So okay, I'm familiar with free des dot his gun 283 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: in his nephew and they had really pushed for the 284 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: last twenty or so years. The internet was right that 285 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: they really laid that groundwork. So when we came in, 286 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: we already had some of that website already and people 287 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: have already had some awareness of his case. Got you 288 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: that's awesome? And then what happened? They walked in? But 289 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: how I mean this was the final stage of you 290 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: getting out? Walk us through that process, Richard, Well, what 291 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: happened was, um, I called my son at six o'clock 292 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: in the morning one day. He lives in after them, 293 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: and my son had told me and my old my 294 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: oldest son had called him at two o'clock in the morning, 295 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: but he was sleeping. He didn't think he understood what 296 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: he said. So I said to the old world day 297 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: to say. He said, he told me that that you 298 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: did changed. I said, come on, RI, don't even play 299 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: around like that. He said, no, Dad, you they changed chase. 300 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: When I woke up, I thought I dreamed that he 301 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: told me that. And I went down when I checked 302 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: the computer, and you say, he has changed. And the 303 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: day that he had told my my my younger his 304 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: your younger brother was that uh that day changed uh 305 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: to five months and thirteen days. And then when he 306 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: went on it it was like get five months and 307 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: two days or something. So he knew that something was 308 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: going on. So I'm sitting to my cell and they 309 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: called me. They called me over our speaker and they 310 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 1: tell me a report to the Orchester station. The class 311 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: of the uniform. That classification wants to see me immediately. 312 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 1: And this is very unusual for like ten o'clock in 313 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 1: the morning, you know what I mean. So I got 314 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: dressed in everything and I went down the classification and 315 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: I went inside of classification and the head the head 316 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 1: DC person because I was in a private prison at 317 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: the time. Uh. He was in a place called South 318 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: Bay Correctional in South Bay, Florida, and the d C 319 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: lady was there from the Compartment of Corrections of Florida 320 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: and also the head classification officer of South Bay and 321 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: my classification officer. So now I'm very very nervous because 322 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: they called me down to tell me that they made 323 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: some kind of mistake on the computer. And if I 324 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 1: happen to see it, don't be aware, don't be uh, 325 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: don't be uh crazy about it, because the day didn't change. 326 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: This is what I'm thinking in my age, you know, 327 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: because on the way up there, I stopped in the 328 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: hallway to talk to this other lady and when she 329 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: put my my my name in the computer, it showed 330 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: two thousand twenty seven. I'm thinking, oh, they fixed whatever 331 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: it was, you know, and that's what they want to 332 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: talk to me about. Walk into the office and I 333 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: sit down and I said, Ms. Scott was very close 334 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: to me, and you know, she became a good friend 335 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 1: of mine, my classification officer, and the Scott said to me, 336 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 1: I said, the Scott is everything all right, She said, yeah, 337 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: everything's looking pretty good actually, and I looked up to 338 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: DLC legs. She said, well, the head of classifications, the 339 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: d C UP in Tallahassee is gonna be calling you 340 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: and telling you what's going on. So I sat there 341 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: for a few minutes and I was asking the question, 342 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: and the phone rang, and sure enough from speaking to 343 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: the head of classification in Tallahassee, which is unheard of. 344 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: Right right, you're getting a calling president. I've never heard 345 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: of that thirty two years. Like this guy Rusties on 346 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: the phone. So I get on and he goes. He goes, hi, Richard, 347 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: how are you doing? I said, okay, uh, I said, 348 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: who is this is? This is this Rusty? He said yes, 349 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: he said up, I'm calling you to let you know 350 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: you they had changed, and I didn't want you to 351 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 1: find out about it some other way. I wanted to 352 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,719 Speaker 1: explain to you what's going on. So I said, okay. 353 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: So now to day, it's like a five months and 354 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: three or four days or something. Right, So while I 355 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: was in prison, I got like five distipinary actions, which 356 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: means like one was for kissing my girlfriend twice in 357 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: the visitor and bob another one was for leaving my 358 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: job because I had the food and how he used 359 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: the path from stupid stuff. So I said to him, 360 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: you know, I said to the guy, want to talking 361 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: to him. After I talked for forty five minutes, which 362 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: was crazy, man, and about I guess thirty five. About 363 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: thirty minutes into the conversation, I said, you know, I 364 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: had these d os and I was I was gonna 365 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 1: ask you if this all was really true, if there 366 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: was any way I could get a little out of 367 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: gain time back that I lost participinary action. And uh. 368 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: He said, yeah, they're discussed over in a minute, but 369 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: there's a few more things and anyone has to don 370 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: me some other stuff. And then he went back to 371 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: me and he said, oh yeah, I guess he was 372 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: checking to see what the d os were, you know. 373 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: And I can't believe they gave you DIDs for this 374 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: pool ship right on the loudspeaker. You know, that's great, said, 375 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: I can't believe they gave you guys sich bullshit. I said, 376 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: you thought the same thing. But I'd still like to 377 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: get like, you know, two or three weeks back at 378 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: a time, he said, how much time to do is? 379 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: I said, four months instead of giving a roll back 380 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: now now five months to a couple of days. Wow, 381 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: how do you feel right at that moment? That happened 382 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: on election Day? So I was volunteering at the polls. 383 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: They got a phone call from him and he gave 384 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: me the good news and it was a lot of 385 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: happy tears. I want to cry. So I and Elizabeth, 386 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: so take us behind the scenes of what you and 387 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: the other attorneys did that led up to this and 388 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: got this call going so well. We initially we could 389 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: try to get a clemency in Florida, that process is 390 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 1: backed up about two years, so Richard would have been 391 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: out most likely no matter what, even before his clemency 392 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: application would have been hurt by the governor. So we 393 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: really just worked hard to try to bring awareness. We 394 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: you know, we're in contact with the White House. We 395 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: were trying everything because we knew that if President Trump 396 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: called up Governor to Santis, it could be done overnight. 397 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 1: So we just kept trying to you know, every route 398 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: possible and um then we went the bedia, you know, 399 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: going to the media, and we put up the evidence 400 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: that Richard had been really over sentenced. You know that 401 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: everyone else in Florida who had been um subject to 402 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 1: racketeering or Norwana traffickers. They all had like eleven year sentences. 403 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: Like the most anyone had ever been sentenced to in 404 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: Florida for racketeering was thirty eight years, while Richard was 405 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: given ninety years. We need to really present that evidence. 406 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 1: And we think that that is kind of what pushed 407 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: someone to know, whether it was Rusty or someone else 408 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 1: in that office, to really go through and see, Okay, 409 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: let's give him this time to get him out. But 410 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: actually happened was and and and Elizabeth agrees with me. 411 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: I said the hug that there's been so much pressure 412 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 1: put on these people. They came up with some kind 413 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 1: of hogwash to tell me that I lost some game 414 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: time because I don't know if you guys ever did 415 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: any time a couple of us have been a jail. 416 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: These two guys that lay up you know exactly when 417 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: you're getting game time and exactly how much you have 418 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 1: every day you're in there. Oh yeah, you're waiting for 419 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: a good day to come. I believe that the senators 420 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: and the obvious that that the Last Prisoners Project was 421 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: involved with got in touch with them and they said 422 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: get this guy out of prison. He's raising way too 423 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: many eyebrows in the media. Like I was on every 424 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: TV program, I mean every news broadcast Channel ten, Fox, twelve, um, 425 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: all these towns I was on. I I fired up 426 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 1: the TV in the day room. We've been watching TV 427 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: and I've been seeing my face off television. Superstar in prison. 428 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: It was. I was on the I was on the 429 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: news inside of my inside of my quad where I lived, 430 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 1: because they had a key out of there, you know, 431 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,479 Speaker 1: the key thing that was the kiosk with the camera 432 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: to record some messages. No way broadcasting live from prison technology. Yeah, 433 00:25:54,160 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: he worked work, but it was a team effort, you know, everybody. 434 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: It took. It took Free Delicy dot com. It took 435 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 1: the last first this project, and it took some three 436 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: super lawyers and uh a law a lawyer that's gonna 437 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: be a lawyer here shortly to get me out to 438 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: be talking to you right now. That's great, that's a 439 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: blessing because cannabis shouldn't put anybody behind jails just for 440 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: that left alone. Thirty two years you served and you 441 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: come out, you get that call, you're in that room 442 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: on the phone, walk me through a little emotional and 443 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: emotions right there. Did you drop to your knees? Did 444 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 1: you go to your cell and fall down on the 445 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: side of the bed, like what did you do to go? 446 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: Holy shit, I'm getting out in less than a month. 447 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: Back and I said to myself from walking down the hallway, 448 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 1: because there's a long hallway going into the four the 449 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 1: five quads, you know, right, just one of these circule 450 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: deals and there's five from quads, all two man rooms. 451 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: And I was walking down in the hallway, and you know, 452 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: I had all these crazy thoughts in my mind. We 453 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: count I could be home with my family here so shortly. 454 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. This, this can't be happening. I thought, I 455 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 1: was actually dreaming at it down the hallway. This must 456 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: be a dream that him have too much pruno. I'm 457 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: looking down and pitch in my hand. Right I'm staying 458 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: And I say, a load of the sergeant and the 459 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: sciences had everything going. I said, it seems to give 460 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 1: pretty good, you know. I mean I walked inside and 461 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: when I walked inside, I went in and I got 462 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: a really close friend. That's uh. You know, it was 463 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: my roommate that that helped me out so much. A 464 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: guy named Sean Bass. He's really a fabulous character and 465 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: he would always help me. And when I when I 466 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: looked at Sean, and right now it makes me cry 467 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: when I about it. I looked at Sean and he 468 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 1: looked at me and he started crying. He said, something 469 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 1: good just happened to you. We're gonna believe this. I'm 470 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: going home and he went and I said, probably the 471 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: ninth of the tenth the next month, but I think 472 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 1: it's going to be more like the eight. And he 473 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: just broke up into tears, grabbed the home and was saying, 474 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: Hallelujah that Jesus, I'm talking about big time. You know 475 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: what I mean. Yeah, I got tears in my eyes. 476 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: I wanted to get a good little emotion. That's why 477 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: I was like, I wanted to feel this. I know 478 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: you had. Yeah, man, that's special. So so you know, 479 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: you get out okay, and and did you have at 480 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: least a one goodbye spread before you left? Yeah? Right. 481 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: But while I'm in the dormitory one dayby before I 482 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: get out, the warden comes to me and he says 483 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: to me, hey, I'm getting a word that there's all 484 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: kinds of media people getting set up at the end 485 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: of the road. No, they were getting set up in 486 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: the parking lot the day before, you know, all kinds 487 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: of TV stations all over the country. And I said, uh, 488 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: you know, he was making it like it was my fault. 489 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: I said, just don't have anything to do with me. 490 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know nothing about what's going on outside. 491 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna I'm not going I didn't make 492 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: the for me. You know you're coming to me. I 493 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: tell me, I gotta do something about it. I can't 494 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: do about whatever they're gonna do, they don't do. But 495 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: I had no idea. So he tells me, I don't 496 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: want to make this thing into a zoo. You know 497 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: what I'm going to do is I'm gonna making media 498 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: go down the road to the big barking lot that 499 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: right down the road, that was right in front of 500 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: the prison, right. So I said, whatever have to do do. 501 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: But you know, I you know, I wasn't really hip 502 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: to the media again out there and everything. I knew 503 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: that they that they were using my my voice and 504 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: stuff on their programs, had stuff like that, you know. 505 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: So I packed up all my stuff and I'm out 506 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: the gate. I don't know if you see video, but 507 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: if you want, will send it to you could take 508 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: a good look at. I had a walker and I 509 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: piled all my stuff on it. I was gonna leave 510 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: it behind, but I had all these things that I 511 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: had to carry outside. Just wrote it excuse me on 512 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: the walker, and UM, I've come around the bend the gates, 513 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: you know, around the building, and I hear all these 514 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: people screaming and killing. It's like six people out there 515 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: and these aren't even media people. What the friends and 516 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: relatives that came from all over the United States wove 517 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: the world to be in the parking lots. So the 518 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: first thing happened, you know, I I broke up before 519 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: I even got out of the gate. And then I 520 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: went out to the gate. Everybody hugged a kiss, and 521 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: we spent the probably the better part of an hour 522 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: just right there in the parking lot. And then my 523 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: son says, come on, load up, Pop getting the truck. 524 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: We gotta go, and uh, you know, everybody, lawyers and everybody, 525 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: and in order we went to eating this restaurant later on, 526 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: but we told everybody where we be at a certain time, 527 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: and we go, uh, we go cruising down the road, right. 528 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: And when I get to the end of the road, 529 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: that's where the Commons set up with the with the 530 00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: local news and all that stuff. And I was just like, 531 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: I'm now I'm standing I'm standing out in front of 532 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: the prison. You can see the prison in the background 533 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: from where I was standing clear as day, the gat 534 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: for and everything. And now I got a black leather 535 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: jacket on, a shirt, a nice polo shirt, nice firkass, 536 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: nice shirt and everything, and I'm standing out on the 537 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: book about and I'm saying, we count my friend. I 538 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: was just with inside, I'm gonna be watching this. You know, 539 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: I gotta be real cool about you know everything, you 540 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, right, said anybody any of my 541 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,479 Speaker 1: friends that I knew I had left behind but I 542 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: didn't know it, but already they were already broke up 543 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: big time, you know what I mean. It was really crazy, 544 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: you know, because Richard in there was effectually called Ritchie, 545 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: and he had all different people who he was friends with. 546 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: Whereas usually people kind of stick to their click, sure 547 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: their games, Richard was friends with everyone and they really 548 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: looked out for him. But there was but no one ever. 549 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: I mean, like I'm a big guy, you know what 550 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: I mean. I mean, I would let no one message 551 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: me anyway, but they wouldn't let anybody even have a 552 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: chance to mess with me, right, you know, so you 553 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: crossed over all the lines. There was no boundaries with you. 554 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there was no one. There was no one 555 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: I could do anything for me in the prison. It 556 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: was you know what I mean. And that's kind of 557 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: unheard of there because there's always the game that the 558 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: prison game of politics. Yeah yeah, that guy's uncle with you, 559 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: and don't anybody message with him, you know what I mean. 560 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: Very nice. That's just the way it was. It was unbelievable. 561 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: You know. So when you come out, now you know 562 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: you're you're you're living. Are you living with your family? Now? 563 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: What where's where's home? What do you have going on? 564 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying with my sister in law. And let me 565 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: ask you this, Richard Um, you know, have you considered 566 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: writing a book? And uh yeah, we gotta have people 567 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: from Hollywood already involved because just the stories he can 568 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: tell when you're hanging out and can it'll allow your 569 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 1: on the big spear in books. I mean, if I 570 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 1: were shooting here talking, I told you a couple of 571 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: things that, you know, just like the things that happened 572 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: to me in my lifetime that was involved smuggling or 573 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: whatever it might be. You'd be like, man, why don't 574 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: you write a book about that? We have that's another show. 575 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 1: I think we've got to have you back and we 576 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 1: talk about all your old exploits. Well not only that, 577 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: want to come back on your show. Yeah, we're actually 578 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: shooting a show right now too that we'd like to 579 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: even you know, some of these an interview, interview you 580 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: as well again on a different show that we're doing. Yeah, 581 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: we're actually we're shooting a documentary and and we're working 582 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: on some projects that the pop brothers that Law brought 583 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: and with cannabis talk one on one and and we're actually, um, 584 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,720 Speaker 1: you know, we look for stories, like looking for stories 585 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: just like this. We just had the conversation yesterday and 586 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: and some of the producers were asking us to to 587 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 1: kind of keep our eyes open, and then here we 588 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: are today with it and it didn't even cross our minds. 589 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: We didn't even think about it earlier. Just yougo, this 590 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: would be a perfect example of somebody that we interview 591 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: that we would put this on our show. So maybe 592 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: we're flying out there and sitting down with you again 593 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: and going to ope. We're a little deeper and in 594 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: depth on certain things, but Richard, your story is amazing. 595 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: We can go in for hours and hours. When we 596 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 1: come back, we want to get into the High five 597 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: with you five great questions and I can't wait to 598 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 1: get the answers from you. Thirty two years in prison 599 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:48,240 Speaker 1: just for cannabis. We'll be right back after this. Welcome 600 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 1: back to Cannabis Talk one oh one, Mark and Craig 601 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: to Pop Brothers at Law with Blue and Joe Grande, 602 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: and we want to get a very special thanks to Pick, Peanut, 603 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: Jen and Elvis for making it all sound good and great. 604 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: Now my favorite time at the show, the Cannabis Talk 605 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: one on one High five Joe Richard Delicy out of 606 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 1: Florida right now. He served thirty two years of his 607 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: ninety years sentence. He's now seventy one years old. He 608 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: went in for a stupid cannabis case and now he's 609 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: out free like a bird. So we're gonna do it 610 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: with you. Richard. Ask you five simple questions. After you answer, 611 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 1: we want your attorney, Lawyer Compidant right next to Elizabeth 612 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,320 Speaker 1: to answer the same ones as well, because there's nothing 613 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 1: like getting a lawyer who's a professional like Elizabeth as 614 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 1: well to break the stigma. Because I don't know if 615 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: you know this Richard, my partner right here next to me, 616 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: Mr Mark Washerman with the gray hair. He guys also 617 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: an attorney from the Pop Brothers at Law. He's been 618 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: practicing law for over thirty years and he is an 619 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: active cannabis user and was the first attorney to ever 620 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 1: come out on social media to smoke weed socially, so 621 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 1: we call it coming out of the green closet. So 622 00:36:56,200 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 1: this guy right here is a pioneer, buddy, absolutely. So 623 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 1: question number one, how old are you the first time 624 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: you smoked? And where did you get it from? I 625 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 1: was fourteen, now I was thirteen, and we were standing 626 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 1: in front of this candy store where I grew up 627 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: in a place called Zy Point in New York. And 628 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: this guy pulled up with a brand new car. I 629 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,879 Speaker 1: think you had a g T or something, some kind 630 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,359 Speaker 1: of real mized car. And I see all the kids 631 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: from the store run over to him, right over to 632 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 1: the car right and I said to my friend. I 633 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: looked over my friend, I said, man, what's going on 634 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,359 Speaker 1: with that dude. Why the kids running over to the car, 635 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: so you know, what's everybody going over there? He said, no, 636 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: he shall we so we mash and stuff. I said, 637 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 1: what what's that? He said, you know you're smoking? So 638 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: um I found out who he was. I found out 639 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: where he was getting from. And instead of them kids 640 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 1: running over to his car, I was giving him what 641 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 1: times this month for the same price, and they were 642 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: all my friends, you know what I mean? And we 643 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 1: put him out of business. It wasn't out in the 644 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: neighborhod anymore. Alright. Question number hold on Elizabeth Now, I'm sorry. Yes, um, 645 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,919 Speaker 1: I think when I was like sixteen, in the back 646 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 1: of my friends brand new car we her boyfriend, it 647 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: was the most trash mids possible, excited to be able 648 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:42,399 Speaker 1: to tripod like everybody else had already been doing. Nice. 649 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: Are you like nineteen now? Very much? Alright? Question number 650 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 1: two of the high five? What is your favorite way 651 00:38:54,160 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 1: to use cannabis? Richard? Um? I actually, um, you know, 652 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 1: I have a problem my cp D. Now, so you know, 653 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: I'm a smoker. I love to smoke. I still smoke 654 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 1: a little bit, but I really can't. I vape a 655 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 1: little bit too, but mostly uh uh, these little drops 656 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: I put onto my tongue, they take my body, my 657 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: physical body, and my head. All right, Elizabeth, what is 658 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 1: your favorite way to use cannabis? Okay, good old joint 659 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 1: or edibles? I definitely love edibles, gummies and cookies, candy, 660 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 1: all of it. And you make some good, good, good gummies, 661 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: he expects the allegedly, yeah, when you drive him down 662 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: to California. You know what's so freaking unbelievable. This is 663 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 1: what blew my mind, I think the most of all. 664 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 1: I spent all that time in prison for this thing, right, 665 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: and last week my card, my medical card, right, and 666 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 1: I walked into a store by the same thing that 667 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:15,360 Speaker 1: I was Wow, no one could go to jail for it. 668 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:20,280 Speaker 1: I was like, well, I walked outside, and I said, 669 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:25,399 Speaker 1: you gotta be freaking kidding me, right, Richard, Question number 670 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 1: three of the high five Craziest place You've ever smoked 671 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: or used cannabis or even sold PLACEY smoked or sold 672 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 1: or pay Probably under the boardwalk where I grew up 673 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 1: when I didn't want anybody to know what I was doing. 674 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:58,359 Speaker 1: Where we're having some five under the bark, all right, 675 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 1: But it was any many wild places or smoke, because 676 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 1: I mean I would just smoke. I didn't care. I 677 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: would smoke. If I was flying an aeroplane, I start smoking, 678 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 1: and John, I didn't care, you know. Or if I 679 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,360 Speaker 1: was out in the boat. Is somethun fishing? You know 680 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah, Elizabeth, we got weed on the 681 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,360 Speaker 1: boat for what if it does some stoppers like cays 682 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 1: a throat in the water? Anybody? So true, Elizabeth? So 683 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 1: many places. That is really a hard one. But I'm 684 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 1: gonna think about that and next time that I talked 685 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 1: to you, about five or six other places about you, Elizabeth. 686 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 1: Probably wildest is but in the library. All right, Richard, 687 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 1: what is your go to Munchie's after you get high? 688 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 1: For question number four of the cannabis Tuck one on 689 00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 1: one high five, it's probably um Italian pastries or brownies 690 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: or something like that, especially this this woman that's sitting 691 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 1: next to me. You guys, try or brownies. I can't wait. 692 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 1: All right, come to California, meet you guys. We're gonna 693 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 1: bring you a box. Oh no, no, no, no no. 694 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: I don't know that that's advisable. I don't think you 695 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:31,800 Speaker 1: want to be crying. Brownies. Brownies regular brownies, regular brownies. 696 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,359 Speaker 1: What were you thinking? I was thinking pot brownies? Come on? 697 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 1: What well those two? But yeah, I said it not you. 698 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 1: You know, when you get to California, will infuse them. Yeah, 699 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 1: we'll take care of them when they get here. Don't 700 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: worry about it. What about you, Elizabeth? What's your go 701 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 1: to munchy? Um? If it's like during the day, fried chicken? 702 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 1: If it's nice, I love Matt, like making a warm 703 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: chocolate chip cookies nice? I mean, both of those are 704 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: key to my heart. Right there, He relaxed Joe fried 705 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 1: Chicken question number five with a high five, with Richard 706 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 1: de Lacy and the lawyer Elizabeth sitting right next to him. 707 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 1: Richard served thirty two years in prison just for a 708 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 1: cannabis case. This is ridiculous. Number five. If you could 709 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 1: smoke cannabis with anyone dead or alive, who would it be? 710 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:35,799 Speaker 1: And why? Richard say that again? I wish I could 711 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 1: suit with my son and oh, got you sorry to 712 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 1: hear that his son's about ten years ago and so 713 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,240 Speaker 1: that's would have been something he would have really enjoyed doing. 714 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 1: Or condolences go to you, Richard, I'm sorry for your 715 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 1: loss and uh, that'd be a good one. That would 716 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 1: be a good one. What about you, Elizabeth? Probably John F. 717 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 1: Kennedy like that? Why John F. Kennedy just to hear 718 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,319 Speaker 1: some crazy stories while smoking? But I feel it would 719 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 1: be really cool. Is probably smoking in the White House. 720 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:15,360 Speaker 1: So with Marilyn Monroe, did you think that the that 721 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,279 Speaker 1: the weed got a lot better? Richard? What did you 722 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 1: think of the difference from back in the data now 723 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,400 Speaker 1: the weed that I used to bring, I'd rather smoke 724 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,440 Speaker 1: Nice because it was stronger, right, you said it was 725 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 1: like a different feel. It had a beautiful feeling when 726 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:35,759 Speaker 1: you smoked it. It tasted so beautiful. Natural worked the 727 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 1: same way every single time you smoked Nice. Say you 728 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 1: smoked join it like ten o'clock in the morning, you'd 729 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 1: still be lit up one o'clock in the afternoon from it. 730 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,439 Speaker 1: That's great. I don't know any weed that day sell 731 00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 1: today at these dispensaries that actually works. Like I mean, 732 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,440 Speaker 1: you can take a gummy or something and it lasts 733 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 1: a little while longer, but as start a smoking and 734 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 1: joint and staying buzz for three well, I was hours. 735 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 1: It's impossible with the stuff today that they have today. 736 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 1: But let me tell you something in case smells and 737 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 1: so beautiful. You know, yes, we agree, yes it is. Well. 738 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,840 Speaker 1: You can find them on Instagram at free Deleasy the 739 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 1: website free delasy dot com. That's f R E E 740 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 1: D E L I S I. Thank you Richard, and 741 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 1: thank you Elizabeth for coming on. Your story is amazing. 742 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,919 Speaker 1: We can't wait to slap hands with you Richard when 743 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,440 Speaker 1: you come to Los Angeles as well as you Elizabeth. 744 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,360 Speaker 1: Is there anything else that you guys like to promote 745 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:49,359 Speaker 1: before we let you go? Just um, I gotta thank 746 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,839 Speaker 1: you for what are you're doing, you know, trying to 747 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,759 Speaker 1: help other people. And that's that's what I'm That's what 748 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,399 Speaker 1: I'm really after right now. The guys that I left 749 00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 1: behind that are in there for the same type of 750 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 1: deals me. There was a couple of people right in 751 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 1: the quad with me. You know, I was fortunate I 752 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 1: got home for prison back there right now. Alright, God 753 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 1: bless your brother. Thank you again for coming on Cannabis 754 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 1: Talk one on one. Guys. Remember this. If no one 755 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,760 Speaker 1: else loves you, we do. Thanks for listening to another 756 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,879 Speaker 1: podcast of Cannabis Talk one oh one, the world's number 757 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 1: one source for everything cannabis. 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