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Speaker 1: Welcome to Pretty Private with Ebine, a space where no

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Speaker 1: question is off limits and storylines become lifelines. The views

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Speaker 1: shared by our guests are meant to inform, entertain and empower,

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Speaker 1: from the laughs to the lessons. Just remember, tough times

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Speaker 1: don't last, but professional home girls do enjoy the show.

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Speaker 2: What's up, y'all? Lichagara Ebine here and I hope all

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Speaker 2: is cute now. Welcome back to Pretty Private with Ebine.

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Speaker 2: Wheen storylines become lifelines? How are y'all feeling out there?

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Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, it's tak the first day of spring, right,

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Speaker 2: or maybe the third day of springs? But child, it

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Speaker 2: is not springing in New York, okay, because it has

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Speaker 2: been on and off hide and cold, and I am

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Speaker 2: so over it, like I cannot wait for the summertime

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Speaker 2: sometime in New York.

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Speaker 3: Is a vibe.

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Speaker 2: And also I just can't even believe the April is

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Speaker 2: almost here, Like where is the time going? Okay? I

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Speaker 2: just want to give y'all an update about where I'm

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Speaker 2: at mentally. You know, these past couple of months have

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Speaker 2: been really rough for your girl, and I would definitely

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Speaker 2: share more, but a lot of y'all have been reaching

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Speaker 2: out to me ever since I dropped my therapy episode,

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Speaker 2: So I really really appreciate the love that I've been receiving.

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Speaker 2: You know, we've been doing this for seven years, so

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Speaker 2: we go together real bad. But you know, thank you,

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Speaker 2: thank you, thank you. It has meant a lot to me.

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Speaker 2: So there are no words to even express how appreciative

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Speaker 2: I am of all of y'all for like reaching out

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Speaker 2: to me and you know, loving on me. So thank

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Speaker 2: you so much. And you know, but one thing I

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Speaker 2: will say that I am finally embracing this new version

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Speaker 2: of me is she is no joke, Okay, Like she

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Speaker 2: has been whooping my ass and you know, it's so crazy.

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Speaker 2: I've been reading about decade transitions and how they affect

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Speaker 2: you and forces you to like pretty much like pushes

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Speaker 2: you into being this whole new version of yourself. And

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Speaker 2: normally it it is around like loss or pain or

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Speaker 2: grief or things that are really like transformative in your life.

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Speaker 2: And I realized mine happened right before I enter a

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Speaker 2: new decade. So when I was nineteen, it was me

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Speaker 2: getting ready to prepare to go to d Tennessee State University,

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Speaker 2: and I was trying to figure out how I was

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Speaker 2: gonna pay for college at twenty nine, it was me.

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Speaker 2: And also when I say d Tennessee State University, I'm

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Speaker 2: talking about the real TSU with the Grammy, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's shade no tea. When I was twenty nine, it

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Speaker 2: was me losing my grandmother. So you can imagine the

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Speaker 2: type of feelings that I was going through with that.

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Speaker 2: And now here I am at thirty nine, and it's

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Speaker 2: been kicking my ass, okay, it is, I mean, y'all.

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Speaker 2: I only you have no more ass to kick because

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Speaker 2: it has been rough, y'all. So it's so funny because

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Speaker 2: I wrote an email to my in my newsletter, and

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Speaker 2: I would definitely share the Lincoln the show notes below.

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Speaker 2: But I cried for like ninety days straight, like no, lie,

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Speaker 2: It's amazing how I still have tears left because cry

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Speaker 2: more than that, to be honest with you. But it

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Speaker 2: has been really hard, y'all. But I have decided that

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Speaker 2: I can no longer stay in this depressive state, okay,

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Speaker 2: and I have to fight for my joy because it

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Speaker 2: has been it's just been annoyed. I cried so much

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Speaker 2: I was getting on my own nerves. So I definitely

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Speaker 2: share more about this journey that I've been on. But

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Speaker 2: if anyone is out there that is going through something

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Speaker 2: and if it was like you will not make it

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Speaker 2: out alive. Trust me, I know that feeling all too well,

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Speaker 2: to a point where I had to start back therapy

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Speaker 2: because I was scared, y'all. I don't think I was

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Speaker 2: You have to get up and you have to believe

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Speaker 2: that there is light on the other side of whatever

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Speaker 2: you are going through. Do what you have to do

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Speaker 2: to get back in that light. Stay in the light, child,

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Speaker 2: because tough times don't last, but professional homegirls do.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: On this week's episode, I had the pleasure of interviewing

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Speaker 2: a webcam mar Okay. I feel like in this in

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Speaker 2: the economy that we in, y'all, we need to do

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Speaker 2: So she shares her journey on how she transitioned from

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Speaker 2: introduction to backpage and why she goes so hard for

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Speaker 2: hose okay, because holes be winning. This episode was beyond

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Speaker 2: hilarious and can y'all believe that I recorded this episode

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Speaker 2: seven years ago, Like I was really in my back

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Speaker 2: when I first started, y'all. Like if I look back

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Speaker 2: I really got some amazing conversations. Okay, And one thing

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Speaker 2: I said I wanted to do. I need to find

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Speaker 2: them seven years later. So y'all get ready, because I

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Speaker 2: am a webcam model starts now. So I feel like

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Speaker 2: you have lived at pretty or you are living a

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Speaker 2: transitions in your life. So I did my research on you.

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Speaker 2: I'll watch a couple of your videos. I went to

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Speaker 2: views that's either star on your YouTube page, on porn

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Speaker 2: hub videos, backpage content, and just your Date one clients

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Speaker 2: and people who just really love your brand. So the

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Speaker 2: reason why I'm saying is because I get the vibe

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Speaker 2: that you're a very spiritual person. I can kind of

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Speaker 2: get that feeling from you. Now, how do you stay

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Speaker 4: I actually started a movement called Inner Agriculture, and it's

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Speaker 3: So it's kind of like my own, if you will.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So at the age of three, you shared that

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Speaker 2: you saw a show of a woman's stripping and you

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Speaker 2: were somewhat fascinated by it. Yeah, why was that?

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Speaker 3: I was? You know, she just looked like she was

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Speaker 4: And you know, I mean, I'm kind of like a

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Speaker 4: But she's just like dance around and maybe she was

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Speaker 2: So fast forward to third grade and I literally watched

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Speaker 2: like most of your videos, So fast forward to third grade,

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Speaker 2: you were giving your parents massages and that kind of

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Speaker 4: I think it's just a natural thing. Some people have it,

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Speaker 3: Yes, I am a hiller.

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Speaker 4: I've healed animals child I worked for a hospice. I yeah,

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Speaker 4: And but before we got married, I was already in

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Speaker 3: Something like this might happen. And they even were talking

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Speaker 4: Way way way back in the day they would have these,

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Speaker 2: So happy ending has been around since whatever.

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Speaker 4: Well, yes, that's been forever so and men's penises have

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so if you let's get the man. That's why.

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Speaker 4: Back in the day, a lot of the massage therapists

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Speaker 3: Wow, Like oh this shit, y'all. Ain't even hah, Ain't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't imagine the amount of money you was making.

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Speaker 4: Some days I would drive all like I would do

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Speaker 4: like I would do up to five six massages a day,

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Speaker 5: Damn.

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Speaker 2: So how much would you say you made in like

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Speaker 4: could be doing more. You know, is there something I

440
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,200
Speaker 4: don't know? Is there maybe some websites I don't know about.

441
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 4: She's like, where all are you posted?

442
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 3: So I told her and she's like okay, She's like,

443
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 3: you're not on back page. I was like, what's that?

444
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,440
Speaker 3: And she's like, girl, girl, and she was she's a

445
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:21,919
Speaker 3: black woman too. I never ever met her.

446
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:23,239
Speaker 4: I never saw her in my life, but we used

447
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,359
Speaker 4: to talk for years like everything. So like she was like, girl,

448
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,160
Speaker 4: you don't know about back pace?

449
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,719
Speaker 3: Wow, good girl's getting any money from?

450
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 4: She said, how you getting all these clients there? I said,

451
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 4: because I'm professional and I'm good. I guess I don't know,

452
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 4: like whatever. She's like, girl, you need to go on

453
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,200
Speaker 4: back page and you need to you need.

454
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Speaker 3: To do that.

455
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 4: Try that and see what happens. I said, Okay, So

456
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 4: I go back Page and that's when I discovered it.

457
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 4: And that's when I was like, oh, look like Craigslist.

458
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:51,880
Speaker 4: And that's when I was like, oh, it really ain't

459
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,639
Speaker 4: much okay. So then I like go into the massage section.

460
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 4: I'm like, next to massages, it was like body rubs.

461
00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,119
Speaker 4: I was like, by rugs. In my head, I'm like

462
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 4: that sounds anyway. That ain't my business. I ain't here

463
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,440
Speaker 4: for that section. Let me click on my shit, mine

464
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 4: my business. So I'm like over there and I see

465
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 4: the other girls. I kind of look at the competition,

466
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I'm like, oh, wow, okay,

467
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,680
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna look at nobody. I'm just gonna post

468
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 4: my shit here, Okay, Like I don't care.

469
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:15,880
Speaker 3: What y'all doing.

470
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:20,120
Speaker 4: I'm advertising something totally different, so whatever, I'm not scared.

471
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 4: And I mean, like I had my birth name on there,

472
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,119
Speaker 4: my regular legal phone number.

473
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Speaker 3: Oh I had no idea like this is like a thing.

474
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 4: I mean I put my regular name and phone number

475
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 4: all over the web on all the other directories.

476
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Speaker 3: I didn't think of it as anything different. So yeah,

477
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 3: so that's how I discovered back Page. And then she

478
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 3: was kind of like, oh, you could get more. I'm sure.

479
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 3: Did you put anything in body rubes? I'm like body rubs?

480
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 3: They go that damn word. I'm like, what the hell

481
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 3: is that? Like, it's kind of like the same thing.

482
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Speaker 2: Well yeah, but I because you said that in one

483
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,919
Speaker 2: of your videos. But you said you were sharing a

484
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 2: story how you had a client and I guess she

485
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,159
Speaker 2: went to his house whatever and he was like, are

486
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 2: you gonna take your top off? And you was like what, yes, exactly.

487
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 2: And I guess that's when you realize, like, oh shit,

488
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 2: I see why girls are charging this much because they're

489
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 2: doing less something extra.

490
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

491
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Speaker 3: Well see that's the thing.

492
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 4: It's like I was already charging two hundred just because

493
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 4: of my credential, just because of my resume, right, because

494
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 4: you was qualified, right and so like on an certified

495
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 4: exact and insured don't play listen. So okay, So, like

496
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 4: I was doing it for a few months before that

497
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 4: one guy, you know, happen to say something. Nobody else

498
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 4: had said anything to me. Nobody decided to make me

499
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 4: give them happy ending. They were happy to pay that

500
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Speaker 4: two hundred dollars and uh.

501
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 2: That's crazy to how people would buy massages off back page.

502
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Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's all it was.

503
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Speaker 4: I mean, well it was, yeah, just for mostly just

504
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 4: sexual services, I guess, like you know, whether it's body

505
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 4: rubs or whether it was oh, I mean they even

506
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 4: had a section in their low key for like webcam

507
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 4: models and stuff you could, like you could even put

508
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 4: if you were a stripper, like where you work or

509
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 4: you did set or if you do private dances and

510
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 4: all kinds of all on this stuff like that and

511
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 4: then everything else when it was just fake. But yeah,

512
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 4: so after a while, that's when that happened with that guy,

513
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 4: and that's when I started asking my other clients, like,

514
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 4: let me see if this motherfuckers trying to triack me

515
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 4: because I'm all new over here and shit. So I

516
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 4: was like, I know other girls are advertising that way,

517
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 4: but you know, so all my other clients were like yeah,

518
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,679
Speaker 4: after like three or four or five of them, they

519
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,239
Speaker 4: were like my regulars. They were like yeah, pretty much

520
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 4: all the other girls yep, yep, they at least take

521
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Speaker 4: their shirt off.

522
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

523
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 4: And I'm like what wait, wait, no, well you know what,

524
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 4: that's not my basements.

525
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 2: So so when did you get to a point where

526
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 2: you started taking your your shirt off?

527
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 4: When I after I because I when I left my husband,

528
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 4: I went immediately into a relationship with a man and

529
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 4: I was living with him. That was my boyfriend, and

530
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,199
Speaker 4: so I was still super square and straight laced. And

531
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 4: then after I broke up with him, and I was

532
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 4: working for this drug dealer, So then I kind of

533
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 4: wasn't massaging.

534
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 3: Anymore for a little bit.

535
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 4: But then after I got arrested, which was in the

536
00:24:58,400 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 4: same month, and I ended up getting.

537
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Speaker 2: My d Wait wait, wait, what was doing with the

538
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 2: drug dealer? I mean, you gotta go some much.

539
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 3: I was his driver and I was just just his thing.

540
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 4: I'm telling I'm not going to drop celeb names because

541
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 4: I respect, but uh yeah, we used to like you know,

542
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 4: we had like the party like you know, celebs and stuff.

543
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 4: It wasn't just like standing on the corner like selling

544
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 4: coke or something that was like, na, we were in there,

545
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 4: like we were all kinds of like we were there

546
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 4: then like Kevin Hart get is the UI, you know

547
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like the VIP after hours everything, and

548
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Speaker 4: like my boss, he was just he was the it

549
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 4: man and so I liked him, and so I like

550
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 4: forced myself on him and I was like, let me work,

551
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 4: let me like drive you.

552
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Speaker 2: And shoot you on a car, you know.

553
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Speaker 3: What I'm saying. Like he was like, oh my gosh,

554
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Speaker 3: fine girl whatever.

555
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Speaker 2: Anybody like they either, So.

556
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Speaker 3: That was why.

557
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Speaker 4: And I was like, so I was, I've been I've

558
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Speaker 4: been living such like a sheltered you know, like super

559
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Speaker 4: like green life or Holy life or whatever you want

560
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Speaker 4: to call it.

561
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 3: And so I was just ready to bust out.

562
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 4: I was just ready to just be out there, like

563
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Speaker 4: let me shake all this shit off and start over.

564
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Speaker 2: Okay, So before we continue with this week's episode, because

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Speaker 2: the top. Like why Kevin Hart likes to get lych.

578
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Speaker 3: Now we I never saw him doing anything like that.

579
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 4: I know he definitely gets very drunk and I don't

580
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 4: know what else, maybe smoke some weed. I don't think

581
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 4: he really does the as some people call it, boogish

582
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 4: sugar whatever. I don't think that he does. I've never

583
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 4: seen that's what they call cocaine some people.

584
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 3: I just learned that. I just learned that last year.

585
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Speaker 3: I'm like, what is that. I'm like, oh my god,

586
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Speaker 3: I'm like, I sell that stuff. I didn't even know

587
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 3: that that was a name for him.

588
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Speaker 4: I'm telling you, girl, I'm still learning stuff like it

589
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 4: just never gets old.

590
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 3: It's like, what is that? Every day I'm like, what

591
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Speaker 3: is that? Wait?

592
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Speaker 2: One thing I noticed about you is you constantly keep

593
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Speaker 2: saying you said to seeing videos that you were so green,

594
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 2: you were such a squad? Does it did it bother you?

595
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 3: How?

596
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 4: Like?

597
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 2: I guess naive you were?

598
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 4: Well actually okay, so yes, because when I started burning

599
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 4: off stuff with the moon I did. That was the

600
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 4: very first thing I wrote down to burn off out

601
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 4: of my life was naivity. So yes, But I but

602
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 4: I made myself live that life. I chose that life

603
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,479
Speaker 4: on purpose because I was a little bit starting to

604
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 4: like just do what I wanted to do and just

605
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 4: kind of be buck wild, not buck wild, like my

606
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 4: buck wild is.

607
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 3: Different from other people's, but still, you know, I was

608
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 3: kind of just I needed some discipline.

609
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 4: I needed a man in my life or a friend

610
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 4: in my life that was kind of like, you know, square,

611
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 4: because that's that's the way I work, Like, I don't

612
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 4: need I'm crazy enough. I don't need to my person

613
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 4: that I'm with it, whether it's a friend or a lover,

614
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 4: I don't need them to be buck.

615
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Speaker 3: Wild like me.

616
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 2: You need somebody to balance you out.

617
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly.

618
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 4: So like I might not be actually book wild, but

619
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 4: my spirit is buok wild, you know what I'm saying.

620
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 4: Like people can tell that don't even know me, Like, girl,

621
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Speaker 4: you look fun.

622
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Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, why.

623
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 4: Every time I can't even just walk to the store

624
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 4: so I could look any kind of way. People swear

625
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 4: I'm just turnt up, and I'm like, well, I guess

626
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 4: I am. My spirit is for sure, but so yeah,

627
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 4: I always talk about how you know, my my Basically,

628
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 4: it was like I started over and I made myself super.

629
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 4: It was basically like you know, you could talk about like, oh,

630
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 4: back in the day I used to do drugs, you

631
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 4: talk about drug days.

632
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 3: This was literally like another type of drug.

633
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 4: It's like I went from drug days to like super sober,

634
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 4: beyond without a doubt like phase. So like I've also

635
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 4: been vegan before, and I've been I've done so many things,

636
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 4: and I've done everything for like years at a time.

637
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 3: I know knew just like just to be doing it.

638
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I changed my whole lifestyle around, you know, and

639
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 4: as long as it works, That's where I'm at.

640
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 3: Until it stopped working, and then I mean you slunk around, right.

641
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Speaker 2: I think that's a good point you made. If it

642
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 2: don't work anymore, or if it doesn't no longer serve you,

643
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 2: let it go.

644
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 3: That's it and that's what you have to do.

645
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 4: And that's like, that's what that whole burning stuff off is,

646
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 4: like on the paper or whatever, like, yeah, you write

647
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 4: down the step and your life then no longer serves

648
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 4: you in purpose and you burn that shit.

649
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 2: So once you built your clientele from massages, how did

650
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 2: you transition into.

651
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 3: Wellcam Okay, So what happened with that?

652
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 4: Was so first of all, when I decided to start

653
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 4: doing the it was after So it was after the

654
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 4: guy I worked for, right, and then I was living

655
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 4: with that lady.

656
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 3: So that's when I started doing the massage stuff again.

657
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 4: But then now at this point, I don't have a man,

658
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 4: and I don't want a man, and like I got

659
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 4: tired of dudes trying to talk to me that I

660
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 4: would meet and then like they all just ended up

661
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 4: the same and it was just like pointless.

662
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 3: And I was like, you know.

663
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 4: What, what about this happy end and shit, because that

664
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,959
Speaker 4: would be good for me. It'll like help me relieve

665
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 4: some you know, Like I don't get I don't get hory,

666
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 4: like I'm not one of those types of people.

667
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 3: But I might ovulate, you know what I'm saying.

668
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 4: I ovulate once a month, I might feel a little

669
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 4: certain type of way. So it was like, that'll allow

670
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 4: me to channel that energy. Plus I'm always curious, like

671
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,719
Speaker 4: what the fuck is really going on? Plus bench'all can

672
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 4: make a whole lot of extra money. Plus this it

673
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 4: sounded like a good idea. And then I didn't But

674
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 4: I didn't do it through back to the age, I

675
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 4: started working at this spot.

676
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 3: Again, another place where celebrities would come.

677
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 4: Low key, like gonna name those people either, but it

678
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 4: was like this fifty dollars for an hour massage and

679
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 4: we would get twenty five and the spa would get

680
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 4: twenty five. It was like the bougie I don't even

681
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 4: want to call it a rub and tug because it

682
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 4: really wasn't.

683
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 3: It was like one of those places.

684
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 4: So they have this thing called rub maps that people

685
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 4: can go on and they can actually look it up

686
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,719
Speaker 4: and see like what the rating is of the girls

687
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 4: in a spa, like if they grab your penis or not?

688
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 3: Like who does? What's their name? Who to ask for?

689
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 3: How good. They were all, it's a whole like, yeah,

690
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 3: it's a whole website.

691
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 4: And so on that website, that spa that I was

692
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 4: working at, we were actually not ranked that high because

693
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 4: none of the girls were like that. We weren't like

694
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 4: just in there like you know what I'm saying.

695
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 3: It was like it was like no, like y'all gotta nah, girl,

696
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 3: I'm not.

697
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 2: Gonna do this one.

698
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 3: Like like some of the guys, like the Ducks.

699
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 4: Saw I saw some of the guys in the comment session, like, see,

700
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 4: y'all just don't know because y'all don't go here like that.

701
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,479
Speaker 4: See us regulars, we know what time is because they

702
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 4: trust us. You have to build up a trust with

703
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 4: them before they're gonna do that for you. They're not

704
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 4: gonna just do that if you just come in a

705
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 4: spot like that, right. Oh, it was like a different

706
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 4: kind of It was like a classy, trashy place, you

707
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Like I always like the best

708
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 4: of the best. Yeah, that's worse. So that's why I

709
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 4: started there first. And you know, and I made the

710
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 4: first my first client. Of course, I was like, okay,

711
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 4: here we go.

712
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 3: And I'm like I made him.

713
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 4: Like I was like, okay, so he about to ask me.

714
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 4: I know he about to ask me. In my life,

715
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 4: ain't nobody ever asked me? But I know because I

716
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 4: let the wall down. I noticed Mayor and he asked me.

717
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 4: And I said, all right, listen, now you go out

718
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 4: to help me with this. I don't know what the

719
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 4: hell to do.

720
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 2: But what's he asked you? Like? Little did his exact words?

721
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 3: So first of all, you have to be really careful

722
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 3: with that. People tend to not use exact words because

723
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 3: it's very illegal.

724
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 2: Oh that's true. I learned that from another episode from

725
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: uh a escort.

726
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 4: She was like, girl, yes, I know people asking some

727
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 4: buck wi Cli is like, even if the answer is yes,

728
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 4: you've totally ruined those chances. Yeah, and that's true because

729
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 4: if you because first of all, if that's all that

730
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 4: you're looking for, then know that's not gonna work. But

731
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 4: if you know what I'm saying, if you're just looking

732
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 4: for a good session and you're hoping that it's a

733
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 4: really good match for you to see this therapist, often

734
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 4: like that's how you start to get like super major

735
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 4: amazing relationships like sugar daddies and stuff, and it becomes

736
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 4: really awesome then, right. You know, it's like like I

737
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 4: used to treat Backpage like tender because because I was

738
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 4: single and like the majority of my clientele would be

739
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 4: would be between the ages of eighteen and twenty six.

740
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 4: They still are, so I couldn't really like so it

741
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 4: was like it was cool, Like I don't really get

742
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 4: a lot of guys ask me like come on, like

743
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 4: trying to pressure me into like, you know, giving them

744
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 4: happ end is I usually can just convince them to

745
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 4: do it to themselves because they're young and they right, well,

746
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 4: they just they usually don't. The younger guys are not

747
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 4: usually in it because they need a hand job, right.

748
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 4: The older guys are because they need that affection. The

749
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 4: young guys, they're in it because they're curious.

750
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 3: They're young men. They want to get touched by a

751
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 3: real woman.

752
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 4: They love them a mill and they they I mean,

753
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 4: there's most young men have a thought in their mind.

754
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 4: They at least want to like try like a massage,

755
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 4: a stripper or a prostitute at some point in their life. Right,

756
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 4: most men want to try something that they could pay

757
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 4: for it.

758
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 3: That's a little bit freaky.

759
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 2: Right, So what's the difference between porn and webcamtern.

760
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 3: Okay, so porn. So first of all, pornography is like.

761
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 4: Usually intercourse is involved, but I guess it doesn't have

762
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 4: to because it could be different things. But porn is

763
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 4: like more professional, right, So that's why they call it

764
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 4: amateur porn. But originally, like pornography was, you know, filmed video,

765
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 4: it wasn't live. Webcam is live broadcasting, so you can

766
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 4: also record that and then turn it into a video

767
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 4: and this sell that and it's kind of like amateur right.

768
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 2: So were you nervous when you first started doing the

769
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 2: videos because I saw some of your babies and I

770
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 2: thought you was just doing like your welcoming. But then

771
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 2: I saw you on pup porn hub and I was like, oh.

772
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 5: Shit, okay, and it looks like it don't look like

773
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 5: you're nervous, like, but I did see on porn hub

774
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 5: that you was charging a fee to see certain videos.

775
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 4: So for one, no, I'm an actress, so to me,

776
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 4: you are funny as hell.

777
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 3: Well I'm also a clown.

778
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 4: My dad calls me Lucy, like I really can't help it,

779
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 4: but because I'm an actress.

780
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 3: So what happened was whenever I decided, when I started

781
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 3: getting into this when I loved my husband.

782
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 4: I started to live in my best life and being

783
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 4: free and I could do whatever I want to do.

784
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 3: Now.

785
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 4: I decided I wanted to start taking pole dance classes

786
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 4: because this girl that I was you had become really

787
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 4: they're friends with and we were taking acting classes together.

788
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 3: She used to take pole and she's teach Poe And

789
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 3: I was like, oh man, too bad. I can't do that.

790
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like, there's no way my

791
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 4: husband's gonna let me fucking start poll dancing this shit,

792
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 4: like and what am I gonna tell the church?

793
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 3: So like, so what am I gonna tell the praise

794
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 3: and worship team? Sorry, guys, i can't come on Tuesdays anymore.

795
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 3: I've got pole dancing class. So like, So that was

796
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 3: like one of the things I wanted to get into.

797
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 4: But then within that there was certain things that I

798
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 4: need to conquer as an actress. One of those things

799
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 4: was my acting coach made me start going to karaoke.

800
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 4: He was like, you need singing. I'm like, I'm not

801
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 4: a singer. I'm a perfectionist. I think it's pointless for

802
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 4: me to go up there and try to.

803
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 3: Just hold a tune I sing back up.

804
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 4: To somebody or something. He's like, no, you need to

805
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 4: do this. You need to break free, like you know,

806
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 4: you're having too much ego. You need to just let

807
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 4: that go. And I'm like, oh my god.

808
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 3: Whatever.

809
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 4: So finally I did one day and it really did

810
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 4: change my game. So then now I'm just kind of

811
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 4: on my own out. I'm not even going to class

812
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 4: no more.

813
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm just stopped everything. I'm starting everything over.

814
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 4: So I'm like, you know what, I really what is

815
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 4: the most like uncomfortable thing that I can think of,

816
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 4: like whether it's like modeling or acting.

817
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 2: Oh wow, And.

818
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 3: It's the sexy thing.

819
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 4: I used to hate that and people would be like, oh,

820
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 4: you're sexy or they were like tell me, They're like,

821
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 4: oh yeah, like looks sexy like that key.

822
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 3: I don't know. As soon as you stay sexy, I

823
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 3: freeze up. What the fuck did?

824
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 4: I don't know what that means, Like I can't make

825
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 4: myself be sexy. It's not my fault you think I'm sexy.

826
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to be sexy, so I can't emulate

827
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 4: this thing that y'all are talking about. So it was

828
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 4: always like, well, what kind of actress would you be?

829
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 4: Like what kind of roles would you play? And it's

830
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 4: like I need every role except for probably a sexy role,

831
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 4: like I'm goofy, I'm silly, Like that's not that's not

832
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 4: really my share or whatever. So then I made it

833
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 4: my business to try to conquer that in real life.

834
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 4: And so then I started the pole dance classes, which

835
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 4: really awakened a lot of my feminine through a movement.

836
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,240
Speaker 4: And then from there I was already doing the sensual

837
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 4: massage stuff.

838
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 3: So then it started.

839
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 4: Making me like wow, like and I was like practice.

840
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 4: I was like practice, like seducing my clients like certain

841
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 4: ways and like like just like without even touching them,

842
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, just like moving and like

843
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 4: and then some type of way. I fast forward, my

844
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 4: little brother came to visit me. Vine had just come out.

845
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 4: He was like, you should get on Vine and starts working.

846
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 4: You'll get a whole lot of fans real fast. My

847
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 4: little brother was eighteen.

848
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 3: But though I was like what wait, you don't.

849
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 4: Care if I worked on Vine? He was like what, no,

850
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 4: and send me your fans. I was like, okay, like

851
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 4: I don't even know what too many fans for but okay,

852
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 4: I'm like, that's funny because I started a whole second

853
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 4: Instagram just to take like pictures of me, like in

854
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 4: my work.

855
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 3: I closed like sports bra and panties.

856
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 4: That's when girls first started doing that on Instagram and shit,

857
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 4: and I was like, I started a whole new one

858
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 4: just because I didn't want you to like, see, you're

859
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 4: get embarrassed. They're like, I didn't care about my parents

860
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 4: and nothing like that.

861
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 3: He's like, no, I don't care.

862
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,959
Speaker 4: I'm like, well, shit, all right. So I started working

863
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 4: on Vine. I started trying to be a real stripper.

864
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 4: Oh that's the other thing. I started going to strip

865
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 4: clubs and I would study strippers like two three days

866
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 4: a week.

867
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:05,959
Speaker 3: I was like, for like a month straight.

868
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 4: I would just go to strip clubs like every like

869
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 4: every other day, and I'd just watch them and I

870
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 4: would just study them. And I was and it's so

871
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 4: funny here and j Low talk about the Hustler movie.

872
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 4: I'm like, ah, bitch, been never done that. I'm still

873
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 4: getting a T shirt. So everyway, So it just kind

874
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,479
Speaker 4: of became like a thing. And so then I started

875
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 4: I was like, you know what, I want to try

876
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 4: to work at a real strip club.

877
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 3: But I needed a name. So the first game I

878
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 3: came up with it was kind of goofy.

879
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 4: Then I was trying to come up with another name

880
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 4: just for like the backpage thing and like having this

881
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 4: other like persona because I couldn't.

882
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 3: Be my birth name anymore.

883
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 4: My friend that I met, she was like, girl, what

884
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 4: you doing with your government name on backpage?

885
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 3: Bit you crazy? So I had to like make up

886
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 3: a name. So I made up one name. That name

887
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 3: was like eh. Then I made up another name. I'm like, okay,

888
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 3: we're getting better. And then I came up with the

889
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 3: name I have now.

890
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 4: And then I think I've made one or two more

891
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 4: since then, and it just became an addiction to like

892
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 4: start creating these characters, these alter egos. So I created

893
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 4: this one and that's kind of like that was So

894
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 4: that's where this character started on Vine.

895
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 3: So that's how come I was so comfortable.

896
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 4: With myself because I don't look at it like I'm

897
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 4: actually trying to be sexy. It's like I'm actually just

898
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 4: acting like I'm sexy and it works.

899
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 2: So I know it. When you welcome, I know like

900
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 2: what is evolving because I know you pulled as I

901
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 2: know you strip, Like, what else do you do?

902
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 4: I mean for me personally or you mean on like

903
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 4: on the website in general, Well, just you personally, just

904
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 4: me personally. So EMM, I rant, I rave, I lecture,

905
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 4: I cook, I clean, I make my bed, I do

906
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 4: my makeup, I do my hair.

907
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 2: Hey, you have clients that pay for this to watch

908
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 2: this clothes.

909
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 4: Well, I have an observatory. Yeah, So like you can

910
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 4: title your room whatever you want to. And if you're

911
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 4: having a cum show, you're in a title league, you know,

912
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 4: come show if you're having this or that. Mine's usually

913
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 4: just an observatory. I do have days where I do

914
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 4: have certain shows, but where I dress up in the

915
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 4: theme and I come on cameras hair and make up ready,

916
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 4: you know, and that's why I'm like got the music

917
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 4: playing and I got the pole popping or you know,

918
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 4: or I'm on the couch and like we're doing like

919
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 4: whatever the theme is.

920
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 3: I'll do that sometimes, but for the.

921
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 4: Most part, it's just an observatory because I'm usually trying

922
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 4: to kill three and faux birds with one stone because

923
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 4: all because I do everything myself and it's really hard

924
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 4: to like it's a lot, yeah, because it's a lot

925
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 4: of hours you have to broadcast to make the kind

926
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 4: of money I need to do the things that I

927
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 4: need to do, which I also why I got it

928
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:32,439
Speaker 4: got back into massaging again.

929
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 2: So I was about to ask you about that. So

930
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 2: webcam and a looper to business for you right now

931
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 2: or just in general?

932
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 4: Yes, webcaming pays all my bills, but I have, yes,

933
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 4: but I have I have bigger goals than that, and

934
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 4: I just paying my bills does not make me move

935
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 4: forward faster.

936
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I need to get equipment.

937
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 4: I need to get you know, there's just there's a

938
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 4: lot of mostly equipment stuff is what I need to

939
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 4: get in.

940
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 3: Equipment is very.

941
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 2: Expensive because I know one video you was you I

942
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 2: can tell that you was tired, but you still look

943
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 2: really good and you were just saying, how like you've

944
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 2: literally been up all day. It's I think you finished

945
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 2: like around two or three o'clock and you freshened up

946
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 2: and it was morning time.

947
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, some day I do. I do pull twenty four hours.

948
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,919
Speaker 4: Sometimes I work in between twelve and eighteen hours a day.

949
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 2: Wow, that's just stun But it's your business.

950
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's my baby. I mean, it's like it's an infant.

951
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 4: So if you have an infant, it's gonna keep you

952
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 4: up as long as it.

953
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 3: Keeps you up.

954
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, tell me about it.

955
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 3: I gotta about two.

956
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 2: Infants and they keep me up in real life where

957
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 2: you mean like no, just that I have my podcast

958
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 2: and then I have my beauty company, ev An a

959
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: beauty and like you say, like when you're trying to like,

960
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 2: and I also have a nine of five, so it's

961
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 2: like I have another of five. You have these two businesses,

962
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 2: you have a social life, you have your steff, you

963
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: have your family and friends. It's really hard trying to

964
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 2: balance everything. So I could I can imagine what you

965
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 2: go through because you do twelve to eighteen hours of

966
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 2: twelve to twenty four hours of this.

967
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 4: Yes, And I really just tried to, like, you know,

968
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 4: make people leave me alone.

969
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 3: I'm always like, leave me alone and go.

970
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 4: Away, like if it wasn't for this, Like I don't

971
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 4: leave my apartment, like where I live. I live in

972
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 4: a like I walk everywhere, right, so like everything in here, movie, theater, clubs, restaurants, Yeah.

973
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 2: Where you live. From a little glimpse, since I saw it,

974
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 2: looks really nice, So I know you've got big girl bills.

975
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, well not in the city I live in now.

976
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 3: It's not like it was in La.

977
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, thing thinking that's kind of

978
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 4: why I left LA. But yeah, so it's a yeah,

979
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 4: it's it's you know, it's a upper middle class area,

980
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 4: but it's not the most most most.

981
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 3: Or anything like that. But it's very, very convenient for me.

982
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 4: I don't like to drive, as you know, every since that,

983
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 4: ever since I got in trouble with driving. Twice I said,

984
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 4: you know what, I need to pick one. It's either

985
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 4: drinking or driving.

986
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 3: Driving.

987
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 4: I quse drinking. I would rather drink. I don't need

988
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 4: to drive anyway. I'm addicted to freedom. And so even

989
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 4: before I was drinking, I used to get in trouble

990
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 4: for stealing cars when I was young. Like I just

991
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 4: love shot and I love this a just though, like

992
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 4: going on where it's going to, like Taco Bell, where

993
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 4: you going.

994
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 2: And then also when you post your videos on other

995
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 2: third party sites, you also get a percentage from that,

996
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 2: right or you get pretty.

997
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 4: Much all of it Okay, good, yes, yeah, pretty much

998
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 4: all of it Like on the other site.

999
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 2: Since child, you're gonna have someone my listeners looking for

1000
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 2: looking into a new job venture.

1001
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 4: Well, that is something I'm actually I'm designing a bootprint

1002
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 4: to for you know, people who It's not only just

1003
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 4: for the sex industry. I'll start off with that one,

1004
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 4: but basically it could be applied to anything. So I'm

1005
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 4: in the process of creating that kind of program now

1006
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 4: because I definitely have a lot of I have a

1007
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 4: lot of mentees if you will or whatever that's like, Okay,

1008
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 4: what next this.

1009
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 3: I'm like, are you hold on baby? Baby steps now?

1010
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 2: So normally when I have episodes, I always ask my

1011
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,959
Speaker 2: listeners or viewers if they want to ask my guess

1012
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 2: the questions. So one of the questions that somebody wants

1013
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 2: to know is have you ever ranswer someone that notice

1014
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 2: you for one of your videos?

1015
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 3: Yes, I definitely run into people that know me.

1016
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 4: Oh fought all the time in Las Vegas, some in

1017
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 4: Miami because.

1018
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 2: You have a lot of viewers in DC.

1019
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 3: Yeah. And I've been doing this for a long time though. Yeah.

1020
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 2: Could you started what age twenty four?

1021
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 3: Twenty three? No? No, no, no, no, not not this heck no,

1022
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 3: do you know how old I am? No?

1023
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: I am. I'm talking about just over offer me your

1024
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 2: clients when you first started massaging.

1025
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 3: You was like, oh, you're talking about massage.

1026
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm just saying over that time, from people

1027
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 2: just knowing your face period and from your transition, you

1028
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 2: were in your late thirties.

1029
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 4: Oh oh yeah, no, yeah, I started a massage in

1030
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 4: my twenties. But I think people recognize me from mine, Like, wait,

1031
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 4: so do they mean do massage planes recognize me from well?

1032
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 2: No, they mean do people from your wellcamming your videos

1033
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 2: on different spices and stuff. Do they recognize you just.

1034
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 3: On the street?

1035
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:15,439
Speaker 2: Right?

1036
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 3: Okay?

1037
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but I would just staying because like, if

1038
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 2: you've just been doing this for so long as far

1039
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 2: as like all together, so I'm pretty sure people even

1040
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: typing your name if you've been while I'm by your

1041
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 2: first name or your stage name, you pop up and I,

1042
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 2: oh I've seen her before.

1043
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 4: I well, all of this, yeah, all of this has

1044
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 4: started like since about twenty fourteen.

1045
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 3: Oh but really twenty fifteen.

1046
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 2: Okay, is it hard for you to date right now?

1047
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 3: It's not hard for me today.

1048
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 4: I have a situationship Okay, yeah, but I don't.

1049
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 3: Want to date. I don't need to date. I don't

1050
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:54,240
Speaker 3: crave todate.

1051
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 4: It doesn't really benefit me, but I did meet some

1052
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 4: my we did fall in love.

1053
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:09,720
Speaker 3: However, well no, that's the thing. It's a it's a girl.

1054
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 2: Oh okay, but don't hurt feel us.

1055
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 3: No, no, yeah no, we just we both weren't trying

1056
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 3: to do that. You know.

1057
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 4: It was kind of those things where it was like

1058
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 4: we were cool and then we're like hey.

1059
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 3: And it's like, hey, wait, we went right here.

1060
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 4: You know, hey hey, And it was supposed to just

1061
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,879
Speaker 4: be some like fun at night drunk thing, and then

1062
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 4: like we just kind of like kept doing it every

1063
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 4: day all day until it's like we're going to dinner

1064
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 4: and we're like, I just got real gay real quick.

1065
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, we are so gay.

1066
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 4: Like we would always laugh because neither one of us

1067
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 4: were before lesbians or anything, but we were both freaks

1068
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 4: like you know what I mean, but not like that.

1069
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 4: So yeah, it kind of changed. But then also so

1070
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 4: she wants to maybe have children one day and maybe

1071
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 4: a husband or something like that, so we both decided

1072
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 4: it would be best word to kind of like, you know,

1073
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 4: for us to not do that, because we want to

1074
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 4: keep that door open for her to have a little

1075
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 4: normality if she wants in her life and keep my

1076
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 4: door open for me to continue focusing on my business,

1077
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,479
Speaker 4: because when I get in a relationship like that, my money,

1078
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 4: like my weight went up and my money went down,

1079
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 4: like my math thing went all the Yeah, it was

1080
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 4: like we were just together like twenty four sevens like,

1081
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 4: so I wasn't really working.

1082
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 2: Like that's that because I feel the same way.

1083
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 3: Yes, I just don't.

1084
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 4: I do better with long distance relationships or we just

1085
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 4: have restraint. But we've developed enough now to where we

1086
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 4: only hang out like maybe twice somebody.

1087
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 3: We live in the same apartments.

1088
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 2: But oh wow, that's a factor too, huh.

1089
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's how we met. So she's been here

1090
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 3: the whole time.

1091
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 4: But you know, so I run into her of course,

1092
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 4: and we talk and we text and we hang out,

1093
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,959
Speaker 4: but we just do it on a much different skill

1094
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 4: than us being completely just like obsessed with each other

1095
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 4: twenty four to seven, Like you know, it point to

1096
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 4: where she was like really upset because she couldn't have

1097
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 4: my kids. So that's how, like, you know, it was.

1098
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 4: It's just hard to explain when you fall.

1099
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 3: In love with like the same sex and you're not there,

1100
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 3: It's like what's going on? Oh my god? This is

1101
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 3: not supposed to happen, Like, wow, yeah.

1102
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 2: Okay, so you've been in the industry for a couple

1103
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 2: of years, now what's next for you?

1104
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 4: So basically, other than I'm using all my expertise to

1105
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 4: branch out and help others, I'm starting a nonprofit. It's

1106
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 4: gonna be to help like domestic violence, women and children,

1107
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 4: and then like you know, sex trafficking, you know, all that,

1108
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 4: all that good old jazz. I'm not sure all which

1109
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 4: what how far and deep it'll go or will I

1110
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 4: be very niche and kind of specific with it. I

1111
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 4: don't know yet because I need to look into So

1112
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 4: that's like the next kind of bootprint I'm setting up

1113
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:01,240
Speaker 4: for as far as direct outreach and like my local community.

1114
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 4: And then I'm also about to start doing so I'm

1115
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 4: mighta start getting more into like the musical side of ship.

1116
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 3: And I'm about to start.

1117
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 4: A talent show here a little call me both, and

1118
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 4: I'm working with the producer, and I'm about to start

1119
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,240
Speaker 4: making some mixtapes and then we're gonna go on a tour.

1120
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,240
Speaker 4: And I mean, uh yeah, we have like all this

1121
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 4: all this stuff, and then plus I have all my

1122
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,760
Speaker 4: content I'm creating and I'm in a process of shifting

1123
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,399
Speaker 4: everything to where I can actually have an only fans,

1124
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 4: because I was debating for so long.

1125
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 3: Like should I get one?

1126
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 4: But everybody has one now and now I know some

1127
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 4: girls that have one and they make so much money.

1128
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 4: I'm like, it would be easier if I just put

1129
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 4: everything over there instead of spreading it out over here

1130
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 4: and over here and over here, over here.

1131
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 3: So I'm also working on that next. And yeah, just growing.

1132
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 4: My YouTube channel of course, that's I mean, that's a

1133
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 4: lot of work because it's a lot of editing.

1134
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 3: So you need to do a podcast, and I'm.

1135
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:51,760
Speaker 4: Starting a podcast, going to do Yes, Yes, I'm starting

1136
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 4: my podcast and that'll be on my YouTube channel and

1137
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 4: also you know, on the podcast at the same time.

1138
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 4: So that's why I need some more equipment because you know,

1139
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 4: I want to have guests, and so I'm gonna get

1140
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 4: an office, probably like across the street, and I decide

1141
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 4: I'm gonna actually just set up a whole little set

1142
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 4: and be able to rent it out to other people

1143
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 4: because there's a lot of us right locally that want

1144
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 4: to do stuff like this in our podcasts and things,

1145
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 4: so I can let them borrow my equipment. I'm not

1146
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 4: written the space. I'm written my equipment in the space,

1147
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 4: if that makes sense.

1148
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you steel making money off of it so ever,

1149
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 2: even brother.

1150
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, exactly.

1151
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 4: So yeah, just basically networking everybody together and creating content still.

1152
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 4: I mean, like, you know, I do my own website,

1153
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 4: I do everything, so it's like I have a lot

1154
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:38,240
Speaker 4: on my plate.

1155
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 2: But but you're doing a great job. I mean it

1156
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:41,479
Speaker 2: looks really good.

1157
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1158
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 4: It's it's a lot of it's sitting at a standstill,

1159
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:46,280
Speaker 4: to be honest.

1160
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 3: But it was just like, what are they called placeholders?

1161
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 3: If you will, you know what I mean.

1162
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 4: It's like I kind of just set stuff up and

1163
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 4: it's like I haven't touched my website forever.

1164
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was about to ask you about that because

1165
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 2: I know you have an updated website. I think the

1166
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,280
Speaker 2: last post are it was from twenty fifteen.

1167
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 3: Girl, I'm telling you, I started it and then I

1168
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 3: just let it sit there.

1169
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 4: Collect does I've adjusted it like maybe three more times,

1170
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:13,760
Speaker 4: maybe four since I ever created it? And those blogs

1171
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 4: are really though, I definitely haven't written any blogs because

1172
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 4: I write them my real journal in real life, so

1173
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 4: I can always just type it up whenever I want.

1174
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, put everything on your website, so everything could be

1175
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 2: your direct contact, get what I'm played, the podcast, or

1176
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 2: link to your YouTube page.

1177
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.

1178
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 4: Well I have links to everything but my YouTube page.

1179
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 4: That one's updated. I'm not sure if I updated down yet.

1180
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 4: I have all the links to like on my Twitter

1181
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 4: and my Instagram and my faceburg and my uh and

1182
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 4: then like my webcam modeling thing. You know, I have

1183
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 4: all that stuff on there, but just need to make

1184
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 4: it a little bit less ambiguous. I liked it like

1185
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 4: that at first. That was a part of my whole theme.

1186
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 4: I still to this day get people that are like, okay, so.

1187
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do not the same as you were when

1188
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 2: you first started. Oh no, yeah, so you definitely have

1189
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 2: to update.

1190
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 3: Oh no, yeah. But it's like, but I don't even

1191
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 3: send people there, so it doesn't matter to me. It's

1192
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 3: just a placeholder. It's just sitting there, just just like, uh,

1193
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 3: it's like an example, you know what I'm saying.

1194
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 4: Instead of having a landing site that says coming soon,

1195
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 4: I'd rather have a landing site that's just kind of

1196
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 4: like old stuff, so at least you can see where

1197
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 4: I was.

1198
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 3: Because when I flipped that grow, Yeah.

1199
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 4: Exactly, So I don't mind it sitting there just like that,

1200
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 4: like it's it's because most people don't go there anyway.

1201
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 4: If I had activity on there every day, that's the

1202
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 4: only reason why people go. If you don't have express,

1203
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 4: they're not going to go anyway. So there's really That's

1204
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 4: where I realize there's no point in me trying to

1205
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 4: update it and stuff if I'm not gonna update it

1206
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 4: on a daily basis or on a weekly basis or

1207
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 4: something like that.

1208
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 2: So, last, but not least, would you do it all

1209
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 2: over again if you could fucking write.

1210
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 3: That's on that You can't get me to stop? Are

1211
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 3: you kidding me? Like you have to.

1212
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 4: I'm addicted to my lifestyle, and I'm addicted to being

1213
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,879
Speaker 4: able to help other women. I realized the whole reason

1214
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 4: why I got in this game is because I like

1215
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 4: to cape for hose. I realized that I always had

1216
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 4: a stigma about me for some reason.

1217
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 3: My whole life.

1218
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 4: People always thought I was a hope, or they thought

1219
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 4: I was fast, or they thought I was you know

1220
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 4: what I mean, a freak and all that, and I

1221
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 4: never was any of those things, and it used to

1222
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 4: bother me. But then like the inside part of me

1223
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 4: that was like, well, why are you bothered by that?

1224
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 4: Like there are girls that are like that, but are

1225
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 4: you gonna look down on them? And I'm like, well no,

1226
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 4: it's like, well why are you having a problem with

1227
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 4: people assuming that you are that even though you're not?

1228
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 3: So?

1229
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 4: Then I started getting pissed for the bitches that were so.

1230
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 4: Then I wanted to be a yo.

1231
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 2: That's some real shit though, because I had somebody like

1232
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 2: that when I was growing up. She was like my teacher,

1233
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 2: and she thought I was so fast sold this and that,

1234
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 2: messing with all the boys. I wasn't doing shit, and

1235
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 2: everybody who you thought was innocent, and I feel like

1236
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 2: pushed judgement or anything on em. But now they have kids,

1237
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 2: they struggling this and that, and I was like and

1238
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 2: when she see me, she couldn't even say nothing. And

1239
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:02,760
Speaker 2: I used to always be like, remember what exactly exactly?

1240
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,720
Speaker 4: There was boys, moms, there was teachers, there's people in church.

1241
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 4: It's always somebody, and it's coming from a woman, from

1242
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 4: grown ass adults, and I'm like, what are you talking about?

1243
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,320
Speaker 3: Like, but that's how I learned about self projection.

1244
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,919
Speaker 4: As I got older in life, I realized, Oh, it's

1245
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 4: just self projection.

1246
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 3: You're trying to project your fast ass on me. How

1247
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:24,399
Speaker 3: BIXSI work.

1248
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 4: But in the meantime, in between time, I found a

1249
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 4: love for holes because I felt like it was an

1250
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 4: insult to be called one, but I didn't think they was.

1251
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 3: So I had to.

1252
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 4: I wanted to do something to where women could feel

1253
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 4: like they could have somebody to talk to about it

1254
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 4: and have a resource of like if they want to

1255
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,760
Speaker 4: change their lifestyle, okay, But also if you're in this lifestyle,

1256
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 4: you don't have to run it, like shout it out

1257
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 4: to the world. But don't be ashamed of it. That's

1258
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 4: the only thing I'm trying to tell, Like, if you're

1259
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 4: going to be a sex worker, the worst thing you

1260
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 4: could ever do is be ashamed of it because of

1261
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 4: the energy that you're working with is so real. It

1262
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 4: will haunt you and it will end up being a

1263
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 4: curse instead of a blessing. So if it's something that

1264
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,439
Speaker 4: you can't do, you need to get the fuck out.

1265
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 4: If the industry is not for everybody.

1266
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 2: If y'all have any questions, any concerns, calm miss if

1267
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 2: you want to support my guests, I think she is amazing.

1268
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 2: I feel like lately I've been really into the sex

1269
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 2: worker industry, the transgit, the community, and just all about

1270
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 2: uplifting women, especially women of color. So please email me

1271
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 2: at hello at the professional homegirl dot com any questions

1272
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 2: you have for her. I know she started her MENTI program,

1273
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 2: so I'm definitely gonna be in contact with her so

1274
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 2: we can get some advertisements going. Any email you have,

1275
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:38,439
Speaker 2: I was gonna directly to her and until next time,

1276
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 2: guys later, Thanks you welcome, so thank you. Pretty Private

1277
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1280
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