1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Hi, this is Zach Wheeler. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 2: Welcome to Philly. 3 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: Shown Zach Wheeler, Andrew Painter. 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 3: We're gonna be talking about all these guys, Rubin mar Junior, 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 3: Jim Salisbury Todds. 6 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: Like it's a Philly show. 7 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 3: We're coming to you from Bake Care Ballpark in clear Water. 8 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 3: It's Sunday, March first, twenty twenty six. Do you know 9 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 3: what happened three years ago today? 10 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: I think I do. I think Andrew Painter made his debut. 11 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: He made his first Great League start ever. 12 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 3: Today was his second Great Root League start ever, and 13 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 3: it was a big one, of course, because he's trying 14 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 3: to make this rotation kind of come back from Tommy 15 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 3: John surgery complete the comeback. 16 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 4: He's in the rotation. 17 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: He's in the rotation. I shouldn't say try to come back. 18 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: He's in the rotate. 19 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 4: What you see today, I saw a kid that looked 20 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 4: like a big leaguer poised. I mean, I know it's 21 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 4: March first, I know it's two innings, but I know 22 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 4: it's not a complete Yankee lineup. Some of the big 23 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 4: guns were missing. But like I said, I thought he 24 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 4: looked very poised. He threw a full depth of pitches, 25 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 4: and I had that nice little kind of mini March 26 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 4: first showdown with Jason Dominguez in the first inning, showed 27 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 4: four different pitches got him swinging. I love what j 28 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 4: t Romudo said after the game that the location on 29 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 4: that slider was not perfect, but it was so sharp 30 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 4: that you can get a big league hitter like that. 31 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 4: I thought that was really insightful. You know, baby steps 32 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 4: throughout spring training. But we are in the month of March. 33 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 4: An opening day is in the month of March, and 34 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 4: I expect this kid to be in the opening opening 35 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 4: season opening rotation. It's finally here. We've been waiting for 36 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,919 Speaker 4: this guy forever. It seems like had a tough season 37 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 4: last year with his control, but it seems like he's 38 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 4: grown a lot and learned a lot, made that armslot adjustment, 39 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 4: and everybody you talked to in camp, Ruben just raves 40 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 4: about his command. Again, I caution it is practice and 41 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 4: his spring training. You got to do it when the 42 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 4: third deck and the lights are on. But for this 43 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 4: time of year, pretty pretty good reports and reviews and 44 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 4: results today. 45 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, I totally agree. I mean, one of the things 46 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 5: that that you'll never have to worry about. I don't 47 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 5: think is his poise, because he's a really mature kid. 48 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 5: We had him on afterwards and UH talk to him 49 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 5: a little bit on UH on the broadcast, and he 50 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 5: was just very relaxed and poised and mature. That's something 51 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 5: that you hear that that way of describing him a lot, 52 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 5: and he showed that on the mound today. 53 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 2: The thing that I was really impressed with was that 54 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: while he. 55 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 5: Didn't have terrific command his life on his fastball, especially 56 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 5: against some guys who can really turn on fastballs, he 57 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 5: got it past a couple of guys on really good 58 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 5: fastball hitting players. He got it on him pretty good. 59 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 5: And when you you do that and you're expecting a 60 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 5: fastball and you get it and you still cannot make 61 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 5: good herd contact on it, that's that's an impressive piece. 62 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 5: Didn't get a chance to use his whole arsenal because 63 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 5: he was pretty efficient, got a lot of outs pretty quickly, 64 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 5: so he wasn't I used I know, he used all 65 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 5: of his pitches, and he did start off I think 66 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 5: the second inning with a pretty darn good breaking ball. 67 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 5: But though it was nice to see him get on 68 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 5: the mound and to perform and hopefully I'll catapult him 69 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 5: as we he works his way through March. 70 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 3: Heg talked about how it was a good fastball hitting 71 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 3: team and he liked the fastball off of him, and 72 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 3: you know, and he also mentioned this. You know, Andrews 73 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 3: seemed kind of like, I'm glad this is over. He 74 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 3: seemed very polished, very mature. You know, he had a 75 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 3: long postgame workout. I was telling Jim, I said, he 76 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 3: might must be on like the Roy Halliday post game 77 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 3: workout regiment. But I guess he's just doing a lower 78 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 3: body left because they're off tomorrow. So he said, I 79 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 3: had to knock it out and get it out of 80 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,119 Speaker 3: the way. But I just continue to be impressed by 81 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 3: how put together he is. Mentally, he's very mature. He 82 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 3: talks a lot about his routine before the game. He 83 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 3: had the earbuds in just kind of you know, just 84 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 3: listening to music or listen to whatever he listens to, 85 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 3: just kind of going through his pregame routine, went out there, 86 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 3: did what he needed to do. And Rob Thompson said 87 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 3: after the game was cool. He came off the field 88 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 3: and he had a little smile on his face. So, 89 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 3: you know, even though he kind of downplayed it to us, 90 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 3: Jim talking to postgame, even a you rubin during the game. 91 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: Deep down inside, I'm sure he's pretty happy. 92 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 2: That he pitched that should have been. 93 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 5: I think that that I really like about the kid 94 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 5: is not not just his we've talked about, not his 95 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 5: mental makeup, but also his athleticism. 96 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 2: I always believe that a picture. 97 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 5: Has a chance to be a much much better and 98 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 5: more polished pitcher overall, because you've got great if he 99 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 5: has great athleticism. Some of the guys I think about, 100 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 5: you know, the Greg mannox Is of the world, the 101 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 5: Tom Glavins of the world, Smoltz, you know, Cole Hammils, 102 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 5: and you know, those types of pictures are all We're 103 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 5: all really good athletes. They could do things with the 104 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 5: bad Zach Wheeler was a good hitter, good fielder. I mean, 105 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 5: those guys can make body adjustments much much quicker. And 106 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 5: for a guy who's this tall and this big, for 107 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 5: him to have the sort of athletics and ability to 108 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 5: make his body do with what he wants it to do, 109 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 5: you've got a chance to have a good one with 110 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 5: with the guy who's this athletic, and that's a that's 111 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 5: a really good sign. 112 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 4: Too, And he was so efficient today. The outs were 113 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 4: so quick. They would have liked to have worked on 114 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 4: the throws that split change a little bit more, but 115 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 4: the outs were so quick they didn't get a chance 116 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 4: to do that. So that'll be something to watch a 117 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 4: little bit as he progresses. I think Rob said he'll 118 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 4: put Saturday. 119 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: Pitch Saturday again. 120 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 121 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 3: Bill, he keeps building up, and yeah, I say, he's, 122 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 3: you know, kind of trying to complete the journey in 123 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 3: the rotation. 124 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 2: But he's yeah, he's gotta earn it. He's got to 125 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: earn it. 126 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: But I mean he's basically I think it's blown out 127 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: the street. 128 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 2: Times that might be different, but I don't see that happening. 129 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: Then they're in full panic, but I don't. 130 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, they need him. They are very thin in that rotation. 131 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 4: They need this guy to be there, and they need 132 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 4: him to take down some innings and look like he belongs. 133 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 4: Just like the kid in center field. You just want 134 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 4: to see that they look like they belong. They're not 135 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 4: over their head. And today, I'll tell you what he 136 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 4: did not look over his head. I know it's early, 137 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 4: but he very encouraging. 138 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 2: Nice first step. 139 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: So hey, there we go. 140 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 3: Subscribe to The Philly Show on YouTube if you're watching, 141 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 3: please we're trying to get to fifteen thousand descriptions. Come on, 142 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 3: let's make it happen everybody, and of course, go to 143 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 3: the Philly showshop dot com to pick up your Philly 144 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 3: Show swag. It's been really cool down here. We've all 145 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 3: been running to people that have been listening or watched 146 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 3: the show. Everybody's so nice. Thank you so much, so nice, 147 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 3: real nice, real nice, Clark real nice. So thank you 148 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 3: to everybody. That's a lot of kind words. We opened 149 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 3: the show with our Zach Wheeler open. Yes, and that's 150 00:06:55,839 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 3: because Zach through his second bullpen of you know, since 151 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 3: his surgery on Sunday went well, you know, he's he's 152 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 3: on a on. 153 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: A good track. The other day, Rob says, you asked 154 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: the question. 155 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 3: Jimmy said, Rob, is it possible that this is kind 156 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 3: of like day one of a six week build up? 157 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 3: And Rob said, yeah, I think that's possible, and then 158 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 3: I'm sitting. 159 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: He kind of backed off a little bit. 160 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 3: But then you talk to Zach the next day and 161 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 3: he's kind of like, yeah, this is the beginning of 162 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 3: a six week build up. He says, I've come into 163 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 3: camp feeling about the same. Sometimes I come into camp 164 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 3: and I haven't thrown off the moll once. Sometimes I've 165 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 3: thrown four to five times. But I think I feel 166 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 3: pretty good, pretty you know. So, I said, well, April 167 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 3: six weeks from whenever we talked to him. I said 168 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 3: that was April ninth, from first bull and he said, yeah, 169 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 3: he's like, so, I can't wait to see when he 170 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 3: comes back. 171 00:07:54,960 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: April ninth, you take it? How about April twentieth, the over, 172 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: the under. 173 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 2: April number, April gonna, I'm gonna take the under. 174 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: So you're saying before I'm going to take. 175 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 2: The under only because for no other reason, it's just 176 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 2: a gut feeld. Just having talked to him, I got 177 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 2: a chance to talk to him right after his bullpen today. 178 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 5: Uh sat down with him and it was really really 179 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 5: cool because he was just him, It was himself. It 180 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 5: was like, not no big deal, like he just felt good. 181 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 5: It was interesting. I did ask him if he was 182 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 5: working on anything in particular. He said, I'm working on 183 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 5: this split grip that sort of started to develop at 184 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 5: the end of the year last year. This is what 185 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 5: the great ones do, man, they get they try to 186 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 5: get better every year, right, Zach didn't really feel all 187 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 5: that great about the last offseason about getting left handers out, 188 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 5: So he's, you know, developing different pitches, maybe the cutter 189 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 5: or whatever the case may be. This split is a 190 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 5: pitch that he feels really good about, particularly at the 191 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 5: end of the year. Last year he started messing with 192 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 5: him more consistently, but he was telling me that he 193 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 5: was work He and Caleb Kapfin got together and talked 194 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 5: about how what different grips guys are using for splits, 195 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 5: and he was telling me about how he holds it in 196 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 5: a certain way on the horseshoe, and that if he 197 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 5: spins it the other way, some of the other guys 198 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 5: like the average break on it has been like two 199 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 5: or three inches greater than the one he was using, 200 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 5: So now he is spinning it and putting in a 201 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 5: different position. He said he felt really good about that 202 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 5: particular pitch. Can you imagine him, He's coming up with 203 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 5: a nice little split piece with all the other stuff 204 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 5: that he's got and being able to master that. 205 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 2: It's something that he feels like He's. 206 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 5: Always had a decent change up, but not something that 207 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 5: he can rely on. Consistently, and I think if he 208 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 5: can develop that pitch and get to the point where 209 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,479 Speaker 5: where he can throw it a little bit more consistently 210 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 5: with that continued bite, that could be lights out for 211 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 5: some NL hitters. 212 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 2: So a really interesting discussion with him. 213 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 5: He just felt like it was like a normal bullpen 214 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 5: for him, And that's a great sign. 215 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 4: I've been thinking late April, early May, and I guess 216 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 4: April twentieth is technically late April. Yeah, yeah, it is April. 217 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,599 Speaker 4: He's gonna do everything he can get. He wants to 218 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 4: get back as soon as possible. He's a competitor. Just 219 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 4: gnawed at him to miss the time he missed last 220 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 4: year at that time of the year, that important time 221 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 4: of the year in the postseason. I know he wants 222 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 4: to get back as quick as possibly said it the 223 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 4: other day. He feel like, I'm ready to go. I'm 224 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 4: going to go because I even suggested, you know, if 225 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 4: it's May first, is that the worst thing in the world. 226 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 4: Maybe you have a few extra bullets for October because 227 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 4: that's where the big prize is. But he's he doesn't 228 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 4: want to hear about that. He's if he's ready to go, 229 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 4: he'll be fine in October so April twentieth. The way 230 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 4: he's looking now and just kind of reading his body language, 231 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 4: and I think he's gonna Obviously the team is going 232 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 4: to put down their plan, but I think he's going 233 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 4: to be driving the boat a little bit too, having 234 00:10:58,600 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 4: some input. 235 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 2: We've talked about this before. 236 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 5: I really believe the ball Bukite who runs their their 237 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 5: medical stuff and as the head trainer. I mean, they're 238 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 5: brilliant people. They do a great job. They're not going 239 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 5: to allow him to push forward unless they feel like 240 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 5: he is physically ready to do it. But but you're right, 241 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 5: I mean he will drive the bus if he's feeling fine. 242 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 5: He's not gonna lie to him. He's not gonna put 243 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 5: himself in jeopardy. He doesn't want to do that for 244 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 5: the team. I think that, you know, but I think 245 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 5: that the results and the way he feels will let 246 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 5: him progress as he wants to. 247 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 4: But if it's May one, I'm fine with it because 248 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 4: of season only four starts right, and he's so important 249 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 4: to this teamt you know, with him and Sanchez, you 250 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 4: have two aces. It's so important that he comes back 251 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 4: and comes back right. And if that means the extra 252 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:48,719 Speaker 4: few days you do it. 253 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 2: And that's the thing. That's the thing that Dodgers did 254 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 2: with a lot of their guys last year. Right now, Dodgers, 255 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 2: they slowly rolled them. 256 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 5: They knew that they had a good team, they knew 257 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 5: they were going to be a contending team, and they 258 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 5: either win a division or be in the playoffs. 259 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 2: Let's make sure these guys are right at the right time. 260 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 2: And I think the Phillies will do the same thing. 261 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 3: You know, it's funny those that when you asked him 262 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 3: that question, Jim, he said, yeah, I'm not I'm not 263 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 3: gonna you know. 264 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 1: Just slow, slow play. It's just a slow plate and goes. 265 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: Octob has really never been a problem for me much. 266 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 3: He said something along those lines like, basically, I'm usually 267 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 3: okay even with a full workload in October, so I'm 268 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 3: not gonna. 269 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'll be okay regardless if. 270 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 3: He comes back April ninth or May first, And there's 271 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 3: certainly no reason. 272 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 4: In other seasons he was pitching with two full racks 273 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 4: of ribs and he's also gonna turn thirty six this year. 274 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 4: I don't think May first is the end of the world. 275 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 2: No, I don't think it's the end of the world. 276 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: You know, that's that's that's cool about the that spoot grip. 277 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 2: It's really neat. 278 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 5: It was a good it was a nice little piece 279 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 5: of intel and yeah, and and something that you know, 280 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 5: again there's so much technology around there. They can actually 281 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 5: see other guys grips and break them down and video 282 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 5: them and you know, stop them. And they looked at 283 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 5: it and they analyzed it. And that's one of the 284 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 5: things that the analytics can bring to the to the table, 285 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 5: is that sort of stuff that's really intriguing things. 286 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 4: Well. 287 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: As a little side. 288 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 3: Note, talking to Ryan Kirkering yesterday, he threw his first 289 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 3: bullpen of the spring, and he said he threw a 290 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 3: couple splitters and that's a pitch he's introducing and asking 291 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 3: him about that, not only from the technology side, but 292 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 3: he said, you know a lot of these pitchers go 293 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 3: on like pitching Ninja and they show their grips. So 294 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 3: he went on, he said, I was watching some YouTube 295 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 3: videos of Logan Gilbert split and how he threw overs 296 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 3: his how he grips it, and now he kind of 297 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 3: his thought process and throwing it and all that stuff, 298 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 3: and so you know, they get it off of YouTube 299 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 3: they get it off with those high speed cameras and 300 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 3: all those things, and so you know, Kirkering same thing. 301 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 3: He was watching some Logan Gilbert video this offseason trying 302 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 3: to learn how to throw a split, which he's got 303 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 3: one of the best. 304 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: Ones in the game. 305 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 5: I was, Yeah, it would be great for him to 306 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 5: add that pitch to him. You know, he's basically a 307 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 5: two pitch pitcher if he can add that. No, he 308 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 5: he's mixed in some sinkers now, but it'd be great 309 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 5: for him to be able to have another piece of 310 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 5: the arsenal because the left handers have had some success 311 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 5: against him, and if he has that split, it might 312 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 5: you know, that that might neutralize a little bit. 313 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 3: So let's switch gears here and talk about Aiden Miller, 314 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 3: who we were everybody was hoping to see at shortstop 315 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 3: third base early on in camp, and he's got this back. 316 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 3: That's really lucky bawky to say the least. He missed 317 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 3: the final few games of the Triple A season. I 318 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 3: took him out of the Arizona Fall League. He had 319 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 3: all off season, comes to camp and starts bothering him again, 320 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 3: and there's really no timetable for his return and talked 321 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 3: to Dave Debrowski about it on Saturday, and he said, 322 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 3: you know, there's some thought that he could still be 323 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 3: ready by opening day of the Triple A season, which 324 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 3: I think is March twenty seventh, right the day after 325 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 3: the Phillies have their season openers. So but right now, 326 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 3: you know, he's not really doing much, you know, on 327 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 3: the field, on the field. 328 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 2: He saw him. 329 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 4: He's not doing much at all. 330 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: Not doing much at all, right. 331 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 3: I mean we saw him literally the other day throwing 332 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 3: very lately against the wall. 333 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 4: I mean his backurts. When your back hurts, you can't 334 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 4: do much, so how especially swing, turn, you know, and 335 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 4: be rotational. 336 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, And and Dave said he has a little bit 337 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 3: of concern about it. I asked him, I said, is 338 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 3: this a chronic thing? He says, I I don't. I 339 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 3: can't say if it's a chronic back injury or not. 340 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 3: But he is twenty two, so it's concerning to me. 341 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 4: It's absolutely concerning. When he was one of the guys 342 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 4: you wanted to look at in spring training get some 343 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 4: time at third base, and he can't get on the 344 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 4: field at this point, I don't even know if we're 345 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 4: going to see him a great Fruit League game because 346 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 4: he's got to do another build up here, and you know, 347 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 4: maybe if when he does get back on the field, 348 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 4: it's next door. You gotta go easy, you gotta knock 349 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 4: this thing out, and you gotta hope it doesn't pop 350 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 4: up again, because this is the second time. So it's 351 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 4: definitely a concern. 352 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, So it reminds me a little bit of Cole Hamil. 353 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 5: Cole Hamil's there was an issue with him, but he 354 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 5: did a lot of work, a ton extensive work to 355 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 5: put himself in a position to never have it be 356 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 5: an issue for him. He literally almost never had it 357 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 5: be an issue long term. This is probably something that 358 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 5: you know, Aiden Miller might have to He may have 359 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 5: to incorporate a back program such that. And it'll be 360 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 5: interesting to see if Cole Hamils actually does hook up 361 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 5: with Aidan Miller, because Cole's around here from time to 362 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 5: time to talk about that, because I mean, he'd be 363 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 5: a perfect example of a guy who diligently worked at 364 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 5: it to the point where it didn't effect it didn't 365 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 5: affect him during the course of his career. And you know, listen, 366 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 5: backs are tricky. I think Harper had a back issue 367 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 5: for a little while as well. So listen, he's going 368 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 5: to have to take care of it. It's going to 369 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 5: be something I like I said, the medical people are 370 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 5: going to be really cautious with him. 371 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 2: There's no rush for this man. He's got to put 372 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 2: himself in a position to make sure that he's ready 373 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 2: physically and then go about his business. But the hope 374 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 2: is that this is not a long term. 375 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 4: Issue, and Gabriel Rinconas has another prospect where you going 376 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 4: to look at crushes righty pitching. He hasn't been out 377 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 4: here yet because a bad knee. 378 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 379 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 3: I talked to him the other day and he's got 380 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 3: basically kind of has like tenonitis and both you know, 381 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 3: in his knees, had like a p RP treatment in 382 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 3: the off season and it just hasn't taken like he 383 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 3: had hoped. So he you know, he's, you know, very 384 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 3: frustrated by this, of course, you know, Yeah, he remember 385 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 3: that first postseason press conference at the ballpark, the famous, 386 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 3: the famous one with David Dobrowski. He mentioned Rinconas as 387 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 3: a possible contributor this season at some point. So the 388 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 3: fact that Rinconas isn't actually able to get on the 389 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 3: field either, as there's certainly. 390 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: Something to watch. 391 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, you get talked about a guy 392 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 3: with knees and knees they're bothering along, you know for 393 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 3: a while, same thing like Miller's back. 394 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: So you hope both of those guys can kind of 395 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: work their way through. 396 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, some of your vest ability is your availability, and 397 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 5: you want to make sure, especially when you're a young player, 398 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 5: that that you're healthy on the field because it will 399 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 5: affect the way you go about your business. I mean 400 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 5: as much as you you know, as much as you 401 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 5: like to say guys you know, tough, tough it out, well, 402 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 5: the reality of it is if you cannot perform, I mean, 403 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 5: these are the this is the elite of the elite. 404 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 5: So if you're not physically prepared to be able to perform, 405 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 5: it's hard hard for you to mentally get over that 406 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 5: and uh and and to physically perform the way you 407 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 5: want to. So love to get these guys back out 408 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 5: there and at some point during the course of March. 409 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: Uh. 410 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 2: They you know, because of the. 411 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 5: WBC, they would be getting a lot of reps here, 412 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 5: so it's really important to get them onto the U 413 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 5: onto the field. 414 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 4: You can't tough out a bad back, bad lower when 415 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 4: you're bending constantly for ground balls or talking in your swing, talking. 416 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 2: In your throat no way affects everything you do. 417 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 3: So let's talk World Baseball Classic. World Baseball Classes is 418 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 3: going to be on Fox when all of our World 419 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 3: Baseball Classic coverage is brought to you by our friends 420 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 3: at Fox one, which is live stream all your Fox 421 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 3: favorites together in one place, including all WBC games over 422 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 3: the next few weeks, and after all that, all the 423 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 3: MLB action on Fox. 424 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to the WBC just because there's so 425 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 4: much Phillies representation, so many. 426 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 2: Different tune ton of them across the board, i mean, 427 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 2: every phone. 428 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 5: The team Israel, there's Team Italy, there's all types of 429 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 5: I mean Mexico. 430 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 2: Everybody's pretty much represented. 431 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 5: And it's really nice to see that the you know, 432 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 5: guys like Dante Norri's getting the chest but to face 433 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 5: you know, international international play, some you know, some of 434 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 5: the best players in the game. 435 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 2: It's a it's a pretty cool situation. And then Team 436 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 2: Canada's coming in a couple of days here to play, 437 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 2: to play here against the Pills. 438 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 3: It'll be nice to see some of the boys yeah, 439 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 3: you got you know, you have Harper. Bryce Harper left 440 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 3: with Team USA with Shoreburn Brad Keller. 441 00:19:58,400 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: After Saturday's game in Duneden. 442 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 3: He watched Christopher Sanchez just throw the crap out of 443 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 3: his change up and it was so good. Seven swings 444 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 3: on that change up. The Blue Jays did not make 445 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 3: contact once on that change up, to say, and Harper 446 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 3: knows that, I think they could face the dr in 447 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 3: the semi finals if both teams get that far, and 448 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 3: so he was talking about the prospects of that. He 449 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 3: was also, you know, you know, talking about maybe facing 450 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 3: some other guys in the Phillies rotation. 451 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 2: Hazus's arta. 452 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: We talked to. 453 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 3: Him Sunday morning, and he's basically on the Venezuelan reserve team. 454 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 5: It sounds like he'll probably be on the team because 455 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 5: there's all the Venezuelans aren't getting any insurance, right. 456 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 4: If they go deep, if they're in the championship game, 457 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 4: he may parachute in and pitch that game. 458 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 2: Jim said. And so it is great. 459 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 3: So Jesus is talking about that, I'm on the reserve team, 460 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 3: this and that, and you know, if they get deep, 461 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 3: I might go in and go and then Jim goes 462 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 3: kind of like a ringer. 463 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 2: Huh. 464 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, we'll see what happened. 465 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely like a ringer. 466 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 3: I mean, all of a sudden, you know, Venezuela gets 467 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 3: to the semi finals championship game and Jesus Zarda comes in. 468 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: That would be fun. 469 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 3: So so Bryce Harper and Kyle Schwber could be facing 470 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 3: Christopher Sanchez in the semi final, and if they get 471 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 3: past them and get to the final, they could possibly 472 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 3: be facing Jesus Wizardo and Venezuela in the final. 473 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 4: And he'll have some innings under his belt at that point, 474 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 4: and he'll be above the yeah sixty well above the 475 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 4: sixty five pitchlim and I guess by. 476 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 2: Then, yeah, absolutely, So that. 477 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 4: Could be very very intriguing possibility. 478 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I am looking forward to it. 479 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 4: So. 480 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 3: I so people that aren't like so sure about the 481 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 3: WBC ED, I mean, like you can tell by talking 482 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 3: to players, they're all really excited about it. 483 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: I talked with Garrett Stubbs the other day. 484 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 3: He's playing for Team Israel, as he said, and he's like, 485 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 3: are you gonna come down to a game because they're 486 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 3: playing in Miami. 487 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 1: So I'm not sure. He's like, you really should come down. 488 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 3: It is absolutely unbelievable if you can. I know that's 489 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 3: a big ask to like get in the car and 490 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 3: drive to Miami or whatever. But he's like, it is 491 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 3: so much fun. He's like, you would never think from 492 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 3: playing in that ballpark. He's like, you know, when we're there, 493 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 3: it's like forty five hundred people, eight thousand people, whatever 494 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 3: the number is like, but that park is so much 495 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 3: fun when it's jam packed. 496 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: And people are excited. 497 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 3: He's like, he's like, I really think you should try 498 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 3: to get down there and see a game. And it 499 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 3: doesn't matter what game it is, who it's against. Is like, 500 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 3: it is an absolute blast. And so you know, these 501 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 3: players really aren't board and I know a lot of 502 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 3: people are like, you know, pitching wise, you're like, ah, Terry. 503 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: Schooball and Paul Skains and do you want wizarda going? 504 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 3: But the thing, the word's gotten out now that a 505 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 3: lot of these guys want to compete. 506 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 4: It's pretty sure the hockey team's victory men and women 507 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 4: stirred up a little international juices for these guys, and 508 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 4: Stubbs is right when that ballpark, that's a great Ballpark 509 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 4: in Miami. It's well constructed. It's a nice, pretty ballpark. 510 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 4: It's a nice size when it when it's hopping, it's 511 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 4: a fun place. We just never see it hoppen. 512 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 3: Right from the WBC through the World Series to the 513 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 3: World Cup, to NASCAR and Indy Car. 514 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: With Fox One, you get it all live. 515 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 3: Start your seven day free trial today offers our subject 516 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 3: to change. Download Fox one today and stream the World 517 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 3: Baseball Classic live March sixth of the fourteenth. Go to 518 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 3: Fox one dot com for complete terms and conditions. Fox 519 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 3: one streaming. Now that's my that's my announcer. 520 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 2: How do you do it? 521 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 4: I don't know if you if you pass it on 522 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 4: to us, if you read all time New Challenge, I'm 523 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:40,479 Speaker 4: not reading it twice. 524 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 2: I can do little. 525 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: Brockmeyer of course, all that what a show rocker. I 526 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: would love to do the Brockmeer voice. 527 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 2: Uh so that was. 528 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: Anything else that we want to talk about real quick? 529 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: I think that Jimmy Jimmy wrote down swinging. Yeah, we 530 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 1: should talk about Bryson Scotts. 531 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 2: Listen. 532 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,160 Speaker 5: I've been a big proponent of Bryson for a lot 533 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 5: of years. I know it wasn't like the year that 534 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 5: they wanted to have at him the last couple of years. 535 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 2: But I do believe and I had. 536 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 5: Another great talk with with k Long, with Kevin Long 537 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 5: about him. Uh, he's just sort of picking up where 538 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 5: he left off, driving the ball through the middle of 539 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 5: the field. 540 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 2: He's swinging it strikes. I know John Kruck talks about 541 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 2: this a little bit. 542 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 5: Sometimes it feelds you almost feel like he's not done 543 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 5: a really good command of the strike zone. But now 544 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 5: when he is in a much better hitting position, I 545 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 5: think he sees the ball better. 546 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 2: He's driving the ball it. 547 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 1: Almost he got it kind of like. 548 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 5: Hand, but he back spun it and he's got had 549 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 5: some leverage to it. And I just like, you know, 550 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 5: these directness, his directness to his to his path right now, 551 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 5: and you know, this is a guy that they really 552 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 5: need to have success because. 553 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 2: It lengthens out that that lineup so much better. They 554 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 2: need him on the base pass, he can steal bases, 555 00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 2: he can do some things. 556 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 5: Uh. Hopefully he's starting to become the guy that they 557 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 5: hoped he be. And I still have I have a 558 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 5: lot of I'm really bullish on this guy because I 559 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 5: instinctively he really knows how to play the game, and 560 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 5: I always feel like those guys eventually will come to 561 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 5: the surface, even offensively. Kind of like the guys I 562 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 5: don't know, Ozzie Smith and and and Omar Vascal not 563 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 5: great hitters offensively when they first started in the major leagues, 564 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 5: but sort of got to that point where they got 565 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 5: better and better and better because of their basic instinct 566 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 5: in the game. 567 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 3: Well, Jim and I talked to him the other day 568 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 3: and he was pretty you know, pretty interesting talking to 569 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 3: him about how he is approached last season, he's I 570 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 3: kind of just turned left field off the second half 571 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 3: of the year. He just moved the guy a little 572 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 3: bit closer to play, as you know, he lowered his hands, 573 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 3: and he's tried to just you know, focus on hitting 574 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 3: where the ball is pitched, you know too, So if 575 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 3: it's on the outside, you know, take it to the outside. 576 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 2: Said he said. 577 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 3: Sometimes during this during game, he'd be like, in this 578 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 3: that bat, I want to hit the ball the opposite field. 579 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 3: So he said, he tried to finagle his bat his 580 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 3: barrel around to try to get it to the left 581 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 3: field and they have a slow roll. 582 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 4: They took that out. 583 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, took the waggle out and. 584 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 4: He was pretty clear he does not want a platoon. 585 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,959 Speaker 4: He wants to play one sixty two. He understands they 586 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 4: have a gifted player and so so that needs time 587 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 4: to stay sharp. But he would like to play one 588 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 4: sixty two if possible. Thompson acknowledges that desire, but admits 589 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 4: that is such a good player, is almost a cut 590 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 4: above typical utility man. You need to get them at bats. 591 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 4: I mean, if it does become a semi platoon, I 592 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 4: still think it can be very very productive with both 593 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 4: players really chipping in nicely. 594 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 3: But everything he's done so far the spring is kind 595 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 3: of a carryover from what he how he finished, So 596 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 3: there's there are reasons of being. 597 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 2: Courage quality at bats against some left handers. Yeah, yeah, 598 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 2: this is great. 599 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 3: Great side the home run the other day, the double 600 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 3: the other day, the right center field he ripped it. 601 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: Those are all off left east. So guys, we'll be 602 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: back later this week. 603 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 4: We will, and we'll smell you. 604 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 2: Lenna. 605 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 4: Thanks for being with us, Jim. 606 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 3: The Philly Show is brought to you by the Foul 607 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 3: Territory Network. Subscribe to The Philly Show on YouTube and 608 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,360 Speaker 3: wherever you get your podcasts.