WEBVTT - Inside the Russian Government's Big YouTube Scam 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:08.400 Also media, Oh what's. 0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:15.080 Getting indicted by the FBI? My several people I don't 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:18.880 like it could happen here a podcast about things falling apart, 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:22.079 and today this week, well, for the last couple of weeks, 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:25.439 the thing that's fallen apart is Tenet Media. This is 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:28.800 not related to Christopher Nolan, that we can prove at 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:32.839 this exact moment. It is instead a media adventure starring 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:35.320 a bunch of assholes that turned out to all be 0:00:35.440 --> 0:00:37.640 an op by the Russian government, and none of said 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:40.200 assholes claim they knew anything, even though they got paid 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:42.880 one hundred thousand dollars a video. Anyway, We're going to 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:45.559 talk about all that and more today, but I'm going 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:49.120 to bring onto the program now my co hosts, Garrison 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:51.239 Davis and James Stout. 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:51.800 Thank you. 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:54.400 I'm not getting one hundred k per episode here, but 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:57.840 if I was, I certainly wouldn't tell the government now 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:00.760 that it was actually a foreign government, saying me. 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:02.279 I would keep tweeting about it. 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:05.360 Fun fact about both of you guys before we get 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:08.039 into this, if you reverse your last names, you sound 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:09.759 like Confederate era generals. 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:13.759 Garrison Stout, James Davis like names. Davis Garrison Stout. 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:16.880 Yeah, oh yeah, all right, yeah, yeah, that's so that 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:19.319 is our secret backstory. We had to actually switch them 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:21.679 when we join cool Zone Media due to a Confederate ties. 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:24.920 Yeah, and the fact that you're one hundred and ninety 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:29.040 years old. So Garrison, you want to take us off here. 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:30.199 Yeah. 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:33.920 So Tene Media was this kind of small right wings 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:37.399 startup that hired a whole bunch of more well known 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:40.880 content creators on the right wing sphere, from like Timpoole, 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:45.120 Dave Rubin, Bennie Johnson, Lauren Southern. Yeah, people who are 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:47.480 either just like conservative commentators or you know, in someone 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:49.800 like Lauren Southern's case has been like an alt right 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:52.200 kind of white supremacist media figure for quite a while. 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:54.840 And they put together this little collection of people to 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:57.560 make like content for tenants on YouTube channel as well 0:01:57.560 --> 0:02:02.000 as licensing some of their regular tent And this company 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:07.320 was ostensibly started by another right wing YouTuber named Lauren 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:10.920 Chen and her husband Liam Donovan. Chen's been like on 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:14.800 Fox News News Max, Daily Wire and was employed at 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:18.480 The Blaze, where she's no longer employed based on the 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:23.120 allocations inside this DOJ indictment. So yeah, it was a 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:27.000 small collection not super kind of noteworthy. Honestly, in a 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:29.240 lot of cases, lots of people weren't super familiar with 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:32.880 Tenet media. I know they also hired like Taylor Hanson, 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:34.600 who was kind of one of the first guys to 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:38.440 report on grooming LGBTQ stuff like a few years ago. 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:41.080 That's kind of what was immediately weird about them to 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:43.359 everyone who pays attention to this stuff is that their 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:46.320 videos did not get a crazy amount of engagement. They 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:49.560 were clearly not an established like they came out of nowhere, 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:51.760 but they had the money, the money to pay for 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:55.000 people who weren't cheap. Timpool, if you don't know, Tim 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:59.560 is one of the most profitable influencers on the right 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:01.640 wing chunks of the Internet. He's a guy who kind 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:04.480 of got his start as a citizen journalist during occupy. 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:05.760 Really, he's one of these guys. 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:08.320 All he does is he gets on he reads news articles, 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:11.200 he reads the headlines of news articles, he talks about 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:15.880 how we're all doomed to left wing terrorism or whatever, 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:19.239 and then he makes millions of dollars. He's a frustrating 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:21.919 individual to say the least, but he doesn't come cheap. 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:25.680 And Hansen also doesn't come cheap. Dave Rubin is not 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:28.680 an inexpensive person to bring onto your team. So it 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:30.320 was kind of clear from the beginning there's a lot 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:33.000 of money behind this thing that seems to have come 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:33.760 out of nowhere. 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:34.800 Whose money is it? 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:37.200 And that is what the federal government's been trying to 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:41.240 figure out. And we have now a better indication on 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:44.360 where all of these kind of right wing content firms, 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:46.720 or at least this one who is employing some very 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:50.240 unfortant people, where they are getting some of their money from. 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:52.720 Because there's a lot of money flying around this space. 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:54.960 Lots of these guys are obviously filled by like fossil 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:56.400 fuel billionaires. 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:56.600 Right. 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:58.800 You can look at like the early funding for the 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:01.200 Daily Wired that has a lot of money, but for this, 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:05.680 for this smaller, kind of lesser known company, how are 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:08.360 they paying one hundred thousand dollars per episode to these guys? 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:13.360 And it's also the Daily Wire definitely started inorganically by 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:15.640 getting a lot of fossil fuel money pumped into it. 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:16.920 But one thing you have to hand it to them 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:20.159 is they built a business that is a functional business, right, 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:23.680 they are now profitable in their own regard or at 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:26.640 least were there's some evidence their traffic collapsed recently, but 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:29.280 you saw you saw them have a growth curve that 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:33.479 looked pretty organic for a media organization, which you didn't 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:34.280 see with Tenant. 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:35.320 No, no. 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:38.920 And it seems the only way to actually pay these 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:41.880 millions and millions of dollars to all these people is 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:45.160 if you are actually the government of Russia who is 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:51.080 starting covert operations that's their words, not mine, to influence 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:54.680 the US election by like both talking about like Ukraine, 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:57.839 using these mouthpieces, but also just kind of so general division, 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:00.040 which seems to be kind of the main tactic. And 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:05.039 Robert elected to actually go through some of this GEZ 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:08.680 twenty three page indictment and kind of hopefully we can 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:10.359 find some of some of the some of the better 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:13.680 funnier little tidbits here, because there's a lot of interesting 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:17.400 information about kind of the inter workings of some of 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:23.120 these media groups and how exactly Timpoole was convinced by 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:24.159 a Russian agent. 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:29.280 Yeah, a Russian agent pretending to be three different people. 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:32.760 Pretending to be some mysterious European billionaire. 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:33.920 Yeah. 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:36.840 So the document starts with some stuff that I had 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:39.720 been unaware, which is that you know, because Russia Today 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:44.680 is kind of the first large Russian government affiliated media 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:47.080 organization that has been like putting up propaganda in the 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:50.880 United States, and the FBI has been watching them like 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:53.520 a hawk. And so they quote hear from the editor 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:56.839 in chief of RT after the expanded Russian invasion in 0:05:56.880 --> 0:06:00.720 February twenty twenty two when he describes Russia Today, which 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:04.080 has always argued that it's a legitimate news organization, as 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:08.240 an entire empire of covert projects designed to shape public 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:12.400 opinion in Western audiences. And one of these covert projects 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:15.000 it described as the funding of what we now know 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:17.719 is Tenant Media. Right, it's described in these documents because 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:20.719 their indictments is a Tennessee based online creation company, but 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:24.000 it's it can only be referring to Tenant Media. 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:26.760 As employees have since admitted that yes, it is for 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:27.720 sure to Tenant Media. 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:30.039 Yes, yes, there's no doubt about this. We're not like 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:32.200 reading into the what the FED said here at all. 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:36.040 So they spent over the course of about a year 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:38.359 ten million dollars I think it's actually was more like 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:41.160 nine point six, but ten million dollars basically just buying 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:46.279 these influencers oh my god. First off, things we could 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:49.680 do with ten million dollars yeah, oh oh, James, we'd 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:52.840 be sailing to me and Maar and on a pale 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:55.720 rocket launchers. 0:06:55.880 --> 0:07:00.000 The things that their military could do with ten billion dollars. 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:03.480 Sending dude to the front with ass off plates. Yeah, 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:04.840 it's anyway. Whatever. 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:08.279 So the kind of key detail there is how much 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:12.080 they were making per one of these dog shit videos, 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:15.679 which is about one hundred thousand dollars per YouTube video. 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:17.920 That's what Tim was getting. I think Dave Rubin was 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:19.880 getting close to just half a million a month to 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:23.080 do like a weekly video. So when that is the 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:24.640 kind of money we're talking. 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:26.920 About, and Tim was also being paid one hundred thousand 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:29.800 dollars per weekly video as well. He was making one 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:32.440 video a week, that was what he decided on his contract, 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:34.600 So he was breaking in at least four hundred thousand, 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:36.920 if not five hundred thousand dollars a month. 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:40.160 Yeah, and then they had signing and download bonuses on 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:40.840 top of that. 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:44.200 Which is like even for them, is more than you 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:46.720 could get on YouTube for the kind of traffic that 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:50.080 they get. That is that is like the top one 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:53.080 percent of the top one percent of YouTube creators are 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:56.280 making money like that, and certainly no one with the 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:58.559 kind of views these teniviity is we're getting. So anyway, Garrison, 0:07:58.600 --> 0:07:59.480 you've got a clip to play. 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:04.040 Yeah, here's a clip that's definitely a totally genuine opinion. 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:07.200 Not impacted by those one hundred thousand dollars of Tim 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:08.960 Poole talking about Ukraine. 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:11.600 Trigger warning, most annoying man on earth. 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:16.000 This is psychotic. Ukraine is the enemy of this country. 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:20.040 Ukraine is our enemy being funded by the Democrats. I 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:22.960 will stress again one of the greatest enemies of our 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:27.760 nation right now is Ukraine. They are expanding this war now, 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:30.600 don't get me wrong. I know you've got criminal elements 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:32.640 of the US government pushing them and guiding them and 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:37.120 telling them what to do. Ukraine is now accused a 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:39.880 German warrant issued for blowing up the nord Stream pipeline 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:47.120 in triggering this conflict. Ukraine is the greatest threat to 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:50.360 this nation and to the world. We should rescind all 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:53.960 funding and financing, pull out all military support, and we 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:55.640 should apologize to Russia. 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:58.240 Interesting, I wonder what would compel a man to say 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:00.600 that huis're curious. 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:02.240 There's no way to know Garrison. 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:05.640 So since they publicly launched in November of last year, 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:10.360 Tenant Media posted almost two thousand videos that got about 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:12.959 sixteen million views. And sixteen million views is a lot 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:15.040 for a YouTube channel, but not if you've put out 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:16.960 two thousand videos. So again, that's what I mean when 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:19.800 I say, like, this is not the kind of audience 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:23.280 that you would get this kind of money organically for, right, 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:27.040 Like this is was obviously and I mentioned this because 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:30.360 this is obviously suspicious to the creators. You cannot be 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:34.000 Timpoole is not a smart man, but you cannot work 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:36.760 for YouTube the way that he has and not know 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:39.439 that something is fucked up with the money, just if. 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:42.160 You're not a mental arithmetician like myself. That is eight 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:44.840 thousand views video. I made a video once about how 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:47.560 to use hiking polls, which has around that many views. 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:50.800 I have a video that I fucked up when filming 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:54.040 another video while I was reviewing products fifteen years ago 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:56.560 before anyone knew who I was that has more than 0:09:56.559 --> 0:10:01.679 eight years Like, where's all money, Vladimir, Yeah, yeah, come on, Vladimir, 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:03.800 Like I'll there's a lot I'll do for half a 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:05.360 million dollars well. 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:07.240 And I think part of this as well is not 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:11.400 just trying to prop up tenants owned news itself. It's 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:16.200 making these specific content creators lives more comfortable, because the 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:19.000 better that these guys do. That's all that Russia is 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:22.240 like interested in, as alleged in this document, right, It's 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:24.360 that they just want to make sure that these guys 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:26.960 can can still talk about Ukraine as certainly as like 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:30.199 this like evil and how Russia is like the traditionalist 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:34.160 Christian empire and right wing resistance to globalist domination. But 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:37.439 in terms of like just wanting to amplify US domestic 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:40.600 divisions in order to weaken US opposition to core government 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:44.600 of Russia's interests in the ongoing war in Ukraine. As 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:46.400 said in the document, all they need to do is 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:48.360 just make sure these guys are having a lot of money, 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:49.920 so like their comfortable tenant doesn't need to be like 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:52.959 a successful media operation where like they're making more money 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:55.800 on YouTube than they're paying their influences. 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:56.800 That's not the point. 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:58.760 The point is just to give these guys a lot 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:00.960 of money to keep talking the way they're talking. 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:03.400 Yeah, what was also interesting to me, and this comes 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:06.160 from a wired article wired downloaded as many of these 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:08.480 videos as they could and then ran them through. This 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:11.320 is actually one of the journalistic uses for these large 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:14.160 language models. They ran them through like one of those 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:18.400 machine learning algorithms to just kind of look at how 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:21.680 often different subjects are mentioned, because no human being could 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:25.120 analyze that many videos with any kind of like speed, right, 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:29.160 And one thing they found is that Ukraine, which you 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:32.440 would imagine being the focus of a horrific war that 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:36.840 is bleeding Russia's military was mentioned about like a third 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:40.880 as often as transgender people. The vast majority of the 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:45.120 content was US culture war stuff right like woke is 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:47.880 much more of a focus than anything to do directly 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:52.480 with Russian military operations or Russian like government, like what 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:54.400 you would imagine, right, And the reason for that is 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:57.800 that they see it as number one, building a sense 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:02.559 of solidarity between American conservative and Russia, which is largely imaginary. 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:04.640 I'll be talking about this in an episode later, but like, 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:07.240 Russia is not the country a lot of conservatives in 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:09.400 the US think it is. But more to the point, 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:13.120 it's just sort of stoking division, right, rather than actually 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:16.800 needing to change American minds on Ukraine. In much of 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:18.959 a concerted way, like if you kind of keep them 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:23.080 ginned up and angry about everything the quote unquote Left 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:27.680 is doing, they will be against supporting Ukrainian resistance anyway, right, 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:31.160 And that's the bet the Russians made, very very astutely, 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:33.720 and it seems to be paying off for them. One 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:36.040 of the more interesting facts here is that one of 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:38.439 the primary contacts, this is one of the people who 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:41.520 has been indicted, who was working with you know, Pool 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:45.079 and these other creators, is an employee of Russia today 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:49.320 with the perfect spy name, Constantine Kalashnikov. 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:51.040 Just amazing stuff. 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:54.400 How is that literally their day? 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:56.520 Yeah? How do they not just change it? 0:12:56.640 --> 0:13:00.000 We call it a Kalashnikov because the guy's name was Kalashnikov. 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:04.080 It's just lovely. It's just lovely. 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:04.680 It's beautiful. 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:06.600 It's breathtaking because if you put a character with that 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:08.880 name in a Bond film, everyone would be like, come on, man, 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:11.320 it's not nineteen sixty five anymore, what are we doing here? 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:15.439 But that that's just the person's actual name. It's beautiful. 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:19.680 So they had a couple of fake personas within the company, 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:23.400 but this was a person who like directly talked to 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:27.199 the employees of people like Pool, the editors and whatnot 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:30.440 without disclosing that he worked at Russia. Today now there's 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:33.880 evidence that people who worked for some of these creators 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:37.200 in their discords, like Editors and whatnot, saw this as 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:40.480 deeply suspicious. Probably the most interesting came from when we 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:43.560 now know it was Tucker Carlson posted a video during 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:45.640 his trip in Moscow like where he was going to 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:48.360 a Russian grocery store to be like, look, Russia has 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:52.320 grocery stores. Everything's fine here. His editor in the discord 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:55.320 was like, this seems like a little much. What are 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:58.680 we doing here? Basically, and the statement made was along 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:00.960 the lines of like, you know, this is what the 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:04.440 people paying us want us to get out right, which 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:07.480 is clear evidence that people were aware of what they 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:09.160 were doing to some extent. 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:12.040 At least among like the tenant media producers, there was 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:16.439 a growing awareness of what was actually going on. Obviously, 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:19.080 all of the on air talent still maintains that they 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:21.720 are the victims of an international conspiracy. 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:23.680 In a victim pays I guess. 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:27.720 Oh my god, and no, I think one of the 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:33.000 funniest parts is definitely this fake European businessman I believe 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:36.680 he's referred to as Edward Grengorian. 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:39.280 Yes, it was very funny, but we'll talk about Edward. 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:42.040 Let's throw to ads first and then we'll get back 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:55.400 to this, and we're back Garrison. Let's talk about Edward. 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:56.600 Yeah. 0:14:56.640 --> 0:15:00.200 So in the document they talked about how Klashnikov, this 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:04.360 other RT person, as well as Tenants founders worked together 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:07.880 to deceive commentators wanted to who we believe are our 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:11.840 Timpool and Dave Rubin. The point was to let leverage 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:15.400 their existing audiences and license their videos they were already making. 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:20.000 So together the RT people and the Tenant founders tried 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:25.240 to trick Pool and who we believe is Ruben into 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:28.800 thinking that the person providing these one hundred thousand dollars 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:32.440 per episodes was a European businessman and private investor named 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:37.240 Edward Gregorian, which is a wonderful a wonderful fake name. 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:40.240 And this was not real person. This was a completely 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:42.840 fake person. At some point, I believe Dave Ruben or 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:47.640 commentator number one, requested that the founder provide like a 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:49.080 profile or an article. 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:51.520 Yeah, yeah, it was commentator too that wanted to know 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:54.000 more about quote, would like to know more about the company. 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:55.280 And who he will be working with. 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:58.520 Yeah, so they asked for like this, like one page 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:02.800 profile on like who this guy was, and this was 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:06.560 provided and he was described as an accomplished finance professional 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:09.760 who had various positions in Brussels and France at a 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:14.120 multinational bank, including the director of private banking division and 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:14.960 wealth management. 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:19.000 The one page on this guy, who is supposedly their investor, 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:21.240 shows an obvious stock photo of a man on a 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:25.760 private jet with his face blurred out face bloods. Yeah, 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:29.040 that's what that looks real. Yeah, not sketchy at all. 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:32.840 This is this is an actual guy quote. Founder one 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:36.920 transmitted the Edward Gregorian profile to Commentator one, who is 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:37.960 either Pool or Ruben. 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:38.960 We believe it's Reuben. 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:39.240 Yeah. 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:41.400 I think that one's Ruben because Tim wouldn't have asked 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:45.160 for more details, Honor. About May twelfth, twenty twenty three, 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:48.280 Founder one reported to Persona one that Commentator one had 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:50.720 a problem with the profile we sent over, specifically the 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:53.600 reference to social justice. I think it may be because 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:55.720 that's usually a term used by liberals, but we're trying 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:59.520 to create a conservative network. Founder one suggested that Commentator 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:02.760 one and Edward could simply speak together to clarify the profile. 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:07.200 Yes, and I know there was a secure call between 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:11.639 a Russian atent pretending to be mister Gregorian to Tempoole, 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:16.679 and allegedly this other call with commentator one, who we 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:20.720 think is Ruben. So there was like conversations between like 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:24.199 Rubin and Pool with people like further involved in the 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:27.760 actual like espionage parts of this and the actual like 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:31.840 you're talking to people affiliated with like Russian spies in 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:33.199 order to like sell this lie. 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:34.639 I did find it very funny. 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:36.359 Where did you read the section where they sort of 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:40.520 did a forensic analysis of the three persona's email accounts. Yeah, no, 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:42.479 I'm not far up in doing it yet. So they 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:45.560 had three different personas, so all access from the same 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:49.520 I P address and had different presenting a three different individuals, right, 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:52.879 with three different email accounts. Obviously the DOJ has been 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:55.440 able to get access to those EMAT accounts, and they 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:59.480 found that the people using those email accounts made mistakes 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:01.600 in signing them. So one was supposed to come from 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:06.439 PERSONA three that they mistakenly signed to Edward Gregorian, and 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:10.160 another time PERSONA one sent a draft of an email 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:12.280 to PERSONA to two, which PERSONA two then copied and 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:16.200 pasted into an email like the object was extremely poor, 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:19.399 it would seem, and it didn't set anyone off to 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:19.880 kind of. 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:22.119 Make that point in terms of, like what's happening to 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:24.119 these guys right now? What they've been indicted for is 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:28.359 violations of the Foreign Agent Registration Act. Like, if you 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:30.520 are acting as the agent of a foreign government, you 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:32.840 have to register in the United States. You have a 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:36.399 freedom of speech, but you don't have freedom to create 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:38.960 propaganda for another government and pretend. 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:39.880 That you're not right. 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:42.840 Yeah, and so you know, obviously one of the things 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:45.359 the Feds needed to indict them is evidence that they knew, 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:48.640 specifically they were being employed by the Russian government, Right 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:51.080 that like the Russians hadn't somehow snuck money to the 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:52.680 people who founded Tenant Media. 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:53.040 Right. 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:57.199 And so at one point Founder two gets on the 0:18:57.240 --> 0:19:01.080 Investor Discord channel to submit one of the influencers, I 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:04.919 think it's Rubens invoices to PERSONA one and press for 0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:08.800 payment of those invoices. On September eleventh, twenty twenty three, 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:11.920 never forget, at approximately eight oh seven pm Central Time, 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:14.720 Founder two wrote in that discord channel. Today marks two 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:17.320 weeks since I submitted the invoice for August. Any idea 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:20.040 for the delay. We are signing the large contracts. We 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:21.520 need to be certain we will get the funding to 0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:24.560 pay these people. While waiting for a response, they searched 0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:33.280 for the current time in Moscow. So jess unbelievable opsec 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:36.639 like giving the government absolute knowledge of intent. 0:19:37.280 --> 0:19:40.960 I mean similarly, earlier on in the document quote in 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:43.720 their private respondence while working directly for URT pursue into 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:46.520 Founder one's written contract, Founder one and Founder two regularly 0:19:46.560 --> 0:19:50.200 referred to their sponsor as the Russians and for exact honor. 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:53.920 About May twelfth, twenty twenty one, Founder two message Founder 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:57.000 one on discord, quote, so we're billing the Russians from 0:19:57.040 --> 0:20:01.000 the corporation, right honor. About May twenty second, Founder one 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:04.399 message Founder two on discord. Also, the Russians paid, so 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:06.600 we're good to build them for the second month. I 0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:10.680 guess nailed it on her. About June second, Founder one 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:14.200 message Founder two on Discord, Also, I say we build 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:16.760 the Russians for the last month, once we're done. 0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:19.439 The extra offense. I wonder if they knew they were 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:20.760 working for the Russian government. 0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:23.159 There's a lot more that's just like this. 0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:26.439 They constantly referred to the source of their income, at 0:20:26.480 --> 0:20:29.359 least to each other as quote unquote the Russians. And 0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:32.600 then in like outreach to like talent, which is, you know, 0:20:32.640 --> 0:20:35.800