1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Ron Andanian. Big news out of GM this week, out 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: of De Troy, GM is laying off of ut of 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: its workers and closing five points here in North America Street, 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: in that New York City town. Here in the real world, 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 1: they're set in the Car Doctor. Both Fort and General 6 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: Motives have said that they have taken about a billion 7 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: dollar hit, or at least they're booking a billion dollars 8 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: in losses for the full year as a result of 9 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: the steel and aluminum teriffs. Welcome to the radio home 10 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: of Ron and Nanian the Car Doctor, since this is 11 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: where car owners the world overturned to for their definitive 12 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a 13 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: busy signal, pick up the phone and call in. The 14 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,959 Speaker 1: garage doors are open, but I am here to take 15 00:00:53,000 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: your calls at eight five five five six And now, Henny, hey, 16 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: it's time to start your engines alone and ALcom roderating. 17 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: The Car Doctor here at eight five five zero nine 18 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: zero zero. The Car Doctor seven phone number here at 19 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: your service and ready to do whatever it takes to 20 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: fix and solve your problem. Eight five five five zero 21 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero. Had a great week at the shop, busy, busy, 22 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: busy fixing a bunch of cars. Um, you know, learn 23 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: new things every day. And I'm gonna transfer that over 24 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: here on radio over the course of the next two 25 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: hours and beyond, hopefully to to you, because I want 26 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: you to understand what it is mechanics go through. And 27 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: if you're a mechanic, maybe we can exchange some ideas 28 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: and talk a little bit about Hey, maybe what you 29 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: do has a better point of view than I do, 30 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: and so on and so forth. I am agreed it 31 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: through the looking glass by the often imitated and never duplicated, 32 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: no phony, the real deal made of steal, Mr Thomas Ray. 33 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: How are you today, Tom? Doing well? Doing well? Starting 34 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: out sunny today. I wonder what happened to the sun. 35 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: It was a pleasure seeing you the other night. Yes, 36 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: we had a great, great time of the w tv 37 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: Q party. I'm a a surprised that he who throw 38 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: us out, Well, I gotta tell it was really um 39 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: and they weren't my relatives, they really weren't. But I 40 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: thought it was great, right, I saw you selling tickets outside, 41 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: being honest. But to look on your face when that 42 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: one when when fran Franz Sinclair came up and she said, 43 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: he's the funniest guy on radio. You were just like 44 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: ready to boot off the out the door. Because I 45 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: worked with you, I know better. See somebody gets my 46 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: sense of humor. Not that I'm really that funny, it's 47 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: more mechanical. But I thought that was great. It's a 48 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 1: great time. W t b Q, one of our affiliates 49 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: put on a great show and we were close enough. 50 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: We attended and we thanked them for that great Christmas 51 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: party up there. And UM, definitely a radio station like 52 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: all of our affiliates. It just get it right. It's 53 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: it's just good solid radio. And that's that's what radio 54 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: is about, folks. It's not about that corporate thing. So 55 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: but anyway, we're here to talk about cars and the problems. 56 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: I want to talk a little bit real quick before 57 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: we get over to the busy phones. Just a little bit. 58 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: You know, the technology and the power of technology. Had 59 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: a twenty sixteen f two fifty in the shop this 60 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: week that it needed a part I couldn't identify, and 61 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna describe it to you this way. Between the 62 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: front wheels, there is a lower steering tyrod assembly. It's 63 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: almost like a track bar. You could call it um 64 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: you know. Sometimes it's referenced as a tyrod. Sometimes it's 65 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: referenced as a steering coupling. But it was really hard 66 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: to I d there was a choice in question about 67 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: whether it was an inch and three sixteen thread or 68 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: an inch and nine sixteen threat. It was just too 69 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: many choices and no clear cut information. Kudos to the 70 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: guys at Ford. Googled forward parts went to parts dot 71 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: Ford dot com. Could also find it Visa via motorcraft website, 72 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: but parts dot ford dot com or Ford dot com 73 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: in terms you want to get out through their parts, 74 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: you can actually go into it and do as search. 75 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: Now I was able to register as an independent repair 76 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: shop at parts dot Ford dot com, and now it 77 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: knows who I am and what I'm looking for. When 78 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: I go back, it remembers me. But I was able 79 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: to go into four ad F two fifty actually gave 80 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: it the vent and identified it by Vince, so it's 81 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: it nexts it down to be a very accurate, you know, identification, 82 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: and you go into steering great pictures right, it's like 83 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: you're it's it's almost like you're looking at the dealer 84 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: and I'm assuming this. I haven't seen a dealer parts 85 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: catalog and in a while, but you know the quality 86 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: of the pictures, and yeah, you need this steering linkage assembly. 87 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: Boom boom boom. Pick out your parts takes your right 88 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: to them. I I just I thought, you know, five 89 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 1: years ago you couldn't do this stuff. I forget twenty 90 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: years ago. But it's nice to see that as the 91 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: technology of the car improves and the difficulty, the degree 92 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: of difficulty of of of repairing them goes up. Obviously 93 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: because of the technology. The technology is actually being applied 94 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: to help us find the repair pieces. Never mind the 95 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: information information uh, part of the battle, but just find 96 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: the right parts and identifying them so that you can 97 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: order them. We were able to order them from at 98 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: least I can call up my Ford dealer and say, hey, 99 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: I need this number because I was able to find 100 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: it on on the website and it helps the guy 101 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: on the other side of the phone. Um, which is 102 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: which is important too. How many times as an independent 103 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: repair shop you call up and you say I need 104 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: this washer or I need this coupling, and you know, 105 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: no fault of the parts guy, he can't identify it 106 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: because of all the possibilities and all the options that 107 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: are out there. You know what, when it comes to ford, 108 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: I now got the upper hand parts dot for dot Com. 109 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: Excellent job and kudos to them. We thank you for that. 110 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: Let's kick the garage doors open. Let's go up to 111 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: Tim in Florida, in or down in Florida as it 112 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: might be, and fifty Tim, Welcome to the car doctor, sir. 113 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: How can I help two questions today? Actually? Um, I 114 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: was driving my truck and I noticed from I was 115 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: coming out of the store, I noticed there was a 116 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: lot of liquids coming out from uh the passenger side upboard, 117 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: almost by the firewall, and so it was. It had 118 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: a good little puddle on the ground. And um, it 119 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: wasn't water because my A C hasn't really worked or 120 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: hasn't worked at all in a while, so I don't 121 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: even turn it on anymore, and it's too too hot 122 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 1: down here to use heat. Um, the liquid is green. 123 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: I touched it. It It wasn't hot. It was just I mean, 124 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: like it was warm like, but it wasn't hot. Um, 125 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: it doesn't. It didn't really have a smell. It wasn't 126 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 1: really it was like kind of a consistency of water UM. 127 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: So I was concerned that it was um like a coolant, 128 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: but it wasn't because I checked the reservoir and the 129 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: reservoir still had cool in it. UM. Also, I've been 130 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: I drove my truck about sixty miles after that and 131 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: it didn't overheat at all, normal operating temperature UM. And 132 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: I'm just wondering. I can smell it in the cab 133 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: of the truck. What does Tim, I don't know. It's 134 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: super distinct it is it a Is it a sweet smell? Yeah? 135 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: I know, like the colon is supposed to smell sweet, 136 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: and it smells sweet inside the truck. But when I 137 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: actually get my fingers in it to smell it, it 138 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: doesn't have any smell UM. So that's why I'm not 139 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: really sure what it is. I'm nervous driving. But it 140 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: hasn't overheated and it is just an air conditioning thing 141 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: like windows work. Fine, I'm not really huge. I mean, 142 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: if it's if it's green, Tim, if it's green, it 143 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: sure sounds like cooling. All right, does this and let 144 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: me let me ask the question this way. Does the 145 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: coolant or whatever you saw on the ground, does the 146 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: color of that match what's in the cooling overflow tank 147 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: or radiator nine should not be I'm trying to remember 148 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: if that was Ford gold at that time, and I 149 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: don't think so. I don't believe for gold. Gold color 150 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: coolant came out until later in the nineties and the 151 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: early two thousands. Does does what's on the ground match 152 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: what's in the in the system that you can say 153 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: it doesn't look like it. When I looked in the 154 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: coolant reservoir, um, it was pretty dirty and I should 155 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: probably clean that, but um, it didn't look blue to 156 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: me at all. Um, I didn't open the radiator because 157 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: the truck was still warmer burn myself. Um So I'm 158 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: gonna I'm on my way home now and I'm gonna 159 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: open up the radiator. Was a truck cooled down to see, 160 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: um if there was a loss of coolant, but it 161 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: didn't look blue or I'm sorry, excuse me, it didn't 162 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: look green? Is it? Is it? Is it constantly dripping? 163 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: I mean, is it? Is it a constant leak out 164 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: that bottom area of the firewall. So it's just a 165 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: drip drip trip, Yeah, it's drip trip trip. Okay, it's 166 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: probably coolant. Brother, there's just there's just not much else 167 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 1: it's going to be there, all right. It's it's likely coolant, 168 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: which in all probability is going to become a heater 169 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: or core that has to be replaced. And you know, 170 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: if the if the system is really dirty and contaminant, 171 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: your overall concern has to be if the if the 172 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: heater core has rotted and it's starting to see per leak, 173 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: then what's the rest of the system like And you know, 174 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: high mileage truck. It's two years old, twenty three years old, 175 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: lots of miles, I mean some, okay, not a lot. 176 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: You've owned it since no no, no, I wish um. 177 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: I've owned it for about six months now, all right, 178 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: So you know, be mindful about you know, cooling system 179 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: repairs are a lot like plumbing. First we fixed this pipe, 180 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: and we fixed that pipe, and then the next pipe 181 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: starts to leak. So be be cautious and mindful about 182 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: throwing money at this. And I'm not saying it's not 183 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: worth doing, but it could be the tip of what's 184 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: to come, Okay, So so just be aware of that. 185 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: It really has nothing to do with my A C 186 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: not working. Then it's definitely a cooling issue. If it's green, 187 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: who willant cooling? You know, or a C refrigerant won't drip. 188 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: It's a gas, it's gonna evaporate, it's and it's gonna 189 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: be gone relatively quick, all right. If if it's if 190 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: it's not working, then yet it's not water. Um, it 191 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: sure sounds like a cooling trip to me. The one 192 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: thing you could try, all right, And again this depends 193 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: on you know, when you get home and let it 194 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: cool down, and maybe tomorrow morning take the radiator cap 195 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: off and see what does the level and the radiator 196 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: look like if it's really low, because sometimes it takes 197 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: a while for that air bubble to pass through, all right, 198 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 1: to allow the level to drop down. Um, if it's 199 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: really low and the radiator looks really crutty, maybe you 200 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: drain the radiator get out as much you know, dirty 201 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: contaminated cooling as you can to be nice. If you 202 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 1: had a cooling flush machine, I realize you won't um. 203 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 1: And then when you refill it add a little k seal. 204 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: You hear me talk about k CeAl on on the 205 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: show all the time. I use it in the show. Alright, 206 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: k cl I believe it's k CeAl dot com. You 207 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: can read about it. It's got great ceramic technology. Not 208 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 1: to make it sound like a commercial, but it's the truth. 209 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: It really does work. And you know, here's a classic example. 210 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: Here's a twenty two year old vehicle hundred thousand plus miles. 211 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: Are we gonna start to replace every cooling system component 212 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: in it? Or are we going to try some form 213 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 1: of a of a reasonable leak preventative or a leak 214 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: sealer that will give you another couple of years with it? Um? 215 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: Because you know, we start adding up a radiator and 216 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: and and you know, heaven forbid freeze out plugs in 217 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: the block, and now a heater or core, all of 218 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: a sudden, we're going to exceed the cost of the truck. 219 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: You probably paid a couple of thousand bucks for the truck, 220 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: right right, Yeah, so this is a this is a vehicle. Um, 221 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: you know, what are we gonna do with three thousand 222 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,599 Speaker 1: dollars in? If that doesn't make any sense either? Right? 223 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: So then is there a reason then if I'm if 224 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: it is cooling, then is there a reason why I'm 225 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: not overheating? I mean, I drove it, like I said, 226 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: I drove it about six seventy hasn't tripped down far 227 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: enough yet, you know it has. It hasn't dropped level 228 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: enough yet. You know, do you think it was Do 229 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: you think it's a chord on the ground. Do you 230 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: think it's two quarts on the ground. I'm not sure. 231 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: I meant it for a while, um, but I mean, 232 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: like I'm actually looking at it now. It's already dripping. 233 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 1: It's been dripping the entire time I was driving. It drips. 234 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: You know, everybody says to me, oh my gosh, it, 235 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: and I've got to be quick here. You know. Everybody says, 236 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I've got this leak and it must 237 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: be a gallon. You know, we'll see a pint of 238 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: oil run out of a motor, and we'll know because 239 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 1: the motor will be down a pint up to a court, 240 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: and that up to a court of an oil leak 241 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: will be on the back bumper dripping. You know, a 242 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: quart of fluid in the windstream really drags a long 243 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: way and it makes a lot bigger mess than you 244 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: stop to think about it. So take a look at 245 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: it when you get home, tell me what it looks like, 246 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: and we can talk about it next week. All right, kiddo, 247 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: All right, thank you, You're very welcome. By bye. I'm 248 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: running Nat in the car. Doctor. We'll be back right 249 00:12:54,040 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: after this. Locally is a thing to say on Christmas Day. 250 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: You know, the sound of that music can only tell 251 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: me one thing. Mario Automotive, West Coast Way, West Coast 252 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: is on the phone. Next time he's back, Walter from 253 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: Mauie Walter, good morning, run How are you, sir? Um? 254 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 1: You know, IM a little worried. Did I understand your 255 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: sense of humor? And now I'm worried about that? You know? 256 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 1: Walter Walter writes me an email today folks or this week, 257 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: and he's right, Ron, I don't want to be a 258 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: pest and we're talking about his Volkswagen. And he writes 259 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: me another email because I forgot that. Walter, you gotta 260 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 1: understand when I get your emails, it's it's very early 261 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: in the morning. So to be honest with you, I've 262 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 1: got an iPad set up when I'm shaving and I'm 263 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: I'm shaving and I'm reading the news and I'm reading 264 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: my emails while i'm shaving, and I'm working on car problems. Literally, 265 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: I really am or I'm doing it late at night. 266 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: So a lot of times when you send me an 267 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 1: email with a with a question, sometimes I think I've 268 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 1: answered it, but I fall asleep at my desk and 269 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: I wake up and I did I answer Walter or not? 270 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, I remember, I'll look in the 271 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: morning and then I forget. So I don't ever take 272 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: a personal brother, Okay, I just I know I'm the best. 273 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: You can tolerate down, I can tolerate that. Listen. I've 274 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: been bugged by the best of them, working with Tom 275 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: Ray for the better part of twenty years. So, um, 276 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: what's going on? Well, I followed your instructions from the 277 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: last time. You know, we're still trying to trade. I'm 278 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: still trying to trace down that pos O on the Volkswagen. 279 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: And your last suggestion was to put a meter on 280 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: it and drive it with a Mini Max. And you 281 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: explained to me how to connect that and everything. And 282 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: I followed your instructions, and I'm ninety nine point seven 283 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: percent sure I did it exactly like you said. The 284 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: only difference was I had to I couldn't back probe 285 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: the one wire had to pierce it because of I 286 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: was afraid I d pen it. Because it was such 287 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: a small opening. But other than that, I did everything 288 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: I think correctly, and what happened is I got a 289 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: minimum voltage of zero point nine seven and a max 290 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: some voltage of three point six. But it did it 291 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: did return the PO and so it's not the the 292 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: e c M is not supposed to do anything and 293 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: the unless it reads over five volts, and it never did. 294 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: But I still got the you know, the check engine light. 295 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: I'm wondering, and I've got a couple of thoughts here, Walter. 296 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: I I'm wondering if we've got a bed. But you see, 297 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: if we had a bad engine ground, you would think 298 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: you would think that a bad engine ground would give 299 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: you more than just one erroneous fault code. Okay, so 300 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: you don't want to think too far outside the box, 301 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: but that's that's a possibility, all right. So I want 302 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: you to go through. You've got access to a wiring diagram. 303 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: Yes I do, not very clear, but it's a German one. Yeah, 304 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: it's with that with a Voltwagen. Yeah, I mean, with 305 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: with that, with the tracking the way they do the 306 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: track system, which will make your nuts if you're not 307 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: used to it. It does, um, you can actually you know, 308 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: maybe this is a car you want to log in 309 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: and look at Mitchell and buy a subscription to Mitchell 310 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: for this car, right it off on the cost of 311 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: the repair. But you know the folks at Mitchell d 312 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: I Y. Mitchell does a great job of of rewriting 313 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: UM factory wiring diagrams. And you sent me one once. 314 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: It was better than the factory one. I mean, they'll 315 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: just it just it just puts it into English UM. 316 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: But the reason I think you want a subscription for 317 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: this one is it may take a while to find 318 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: what you're looking for because you want to be able 319 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: to look and see. You want to look at power 320 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: and ground distribution and wherever they say the individual grounds 321 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: are in particular, I would tell you the voltage drop 322 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: the grounds to make sure there's no corrosion or high 323 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: resistance UM at those grounds. In that same moning you 324 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: run I one of the things you sent me is 325 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: suggested running an auxiliary ground to both the math and 326 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: the UH I A T, which I did. And so 327 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: it's it's got a solid ground to the direct of 328 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: the battery negative post. But now what if the E 329 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 1: C M And again this is the g if the 330 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: e c M had the erroneous ground you would check. 331 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: I checked it with the uh my probe you know 332 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 1: the what the hell's it called? You know what I mean? 333 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: You got me on that which what which? Walter? The 334 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: the d V O M or no, no, my, um, 335 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 1: I'm sorry probe you know my uh the one that 336 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: I don't know how to use basically, but I can 337 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 1: check grounds and voltage with it, right, Okay, um, yeah, 338 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: I know what you're saying. Um, well, let's let's tell 339 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: you what Walter. Let's do this. Check the e c 340 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 1: M just just voltage drop the e c M for ground, 341 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: all right, just just to be sure. That's number one. 342 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: Number two, go look up the trouble code diagnosis for 343 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: a P double oh nineties seven and take air tempt 344 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: sensor low all right. In that test, if you go 345 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: down far enough, they tell you to bridge the connector 346 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: of the of the of the I A T sensor 347 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: um harness. And they talk about if the indication on 348 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: the scan tool goes to a hundred forty degree celsius 349 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: and the diagnosis. If the indication goes at one point, 350 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: they tell you to do it the other way. It 351 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: should go to minus forty degree celsius. What they're doing 352 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: is they're having you test the extreme range of the 353 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 1: harness that the PCM can interpret. Do you do you 354 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: understand sort of what we were doing by by jumping 355 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 1: it or some sort of we were doing by watching it? All? Right? Um? 356 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: And and that's that's kind of where this is at. 357 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I agree, I saw your notes that it 358 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 1: doesn't go below point nine and it doesn't go over 359 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: three point six, which at first glance sounds wrong. We've 360 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: got to find out what's the minimum, what's the maximum 361 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: On a five old circuit, typically everything goes to four 362 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: and a half volds. So to me, your your voltage 363 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: signal is low. It's low on the one end and 364 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: high on the other, and it starts out four point six, right, 365 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: But if you're in the signal wire, okay, So so 366 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: it's working from high to low. Yeah, I mean it's 367 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 1: for four point six both at the sensor and at 368 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: the e c M. But as the car says, that 369 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: are disconnected, and so that would be the signal coming 370 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 1: out of the e c M. Okay, But as the 371 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: car warms up, it's okay, you know what, Walter, We're 372 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: gonna have to get Hey, welcome back round any of 373 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 1: the car doctor. Let's get over and talk to Tim 374 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: in Paradise, California. Tim, Welcome to the car Doctor, sir, 375 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: how can I help? Hi? Iron? I wanted to share 376 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: some stories from the campfire in Paradise, California. Yeah, tragedy, man, 377 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I've got I've got friends out in 378 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: uh um out in that area, and Mark lives in 379 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 1: Thousand Oaks, and I get pictures from Mark from time 380 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: to time and it's like, here's my house and here's 381 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: the fire a mile away when it was going on, 382 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: So it's scary stuff. Um. Yeah, those are those two 383 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 1: fires one uh down there in the Malibu area, and 384 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 1: it moved, it moved inland. Um, we're going on simultaneously. 385 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: So cal fire was, you know, fighting two major wildfires, 386 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: uh during the same period. Yeah, I you know. I 387 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 1: um where I live in Chico, the fire came with 388 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: it about three miles and UM, you know, I just 389 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: wanted to speak about the His tape was made by 390 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 1: Otto for everybody, and UM, I just wanted to kind 391 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: of go over it. I don't judge any of the 392 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: choices people made, long as they were cruitous to others 393 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: in their escape. You know, UM, I don't want to 394 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: pick that over, but you know there's some advice out 395 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: there on the internet and what to do with the 396 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: what in the wildfire situation where you're trapped in the 397 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,959 Speaker 1: car and UM, maybe get your insights at what caused 398 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: some of the cars to um cease front. Um I 399 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 1: would patrol to clear the road for the emergency responders 400 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: to get in there after the escape took out. I 401 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: mean there was what they have two lanes in to 402 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: Paradise and two lanes out formally, but they had worked 403 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: out the situation where it be contraflow where all four 404 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: lanes would be going out in an emergency and they 405 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: would evacuate my zones. But that plan fell apart because 406 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: the fire was too fast moving. There's a gap in 407 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: the mountains near Paradise called the Yarbow Gap and it 408 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: generates winds when you can't even see the leaves moving 409 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 1: nearby on the valley floor. Yeah, so you know, there 410 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: were so many things being quantified, like the fire going 411 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: a hundred yards in one second dark one minute, and um, 412 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: you know that the time to escape. Most people got 413 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: with a frantic call from somebody down the flat lands 414 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: or somebody that you know could get the vantage to 415 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: see how bad it was. Um, And I've met dozens 416 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: of people that drove out of it. And let me 417 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: tell you how serious, you know, Mark, I'm sorry, Tim, 418 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about my friend Mark. You know, Tim, let 419 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: me tell you how serious I take this call? All right? 420 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: So a little side story. We've got a listener and 421 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: upstate New York who's actually yelling at Tom and I 422 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: because we won't let him on air. And we won't 423 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: let him on air because he wants to talk about 424 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: he's got a Cummings diesel with eighteen year old batteries 425 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: in it that still starts every day, and he's he's 426 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: angry at us because we're telling people. You know, listen, 427 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: my belief is a battery's rated for four to five 428 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: years six at most, change the battery when the rating 429 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: time is up. You know, I'm not I'm not here 430 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: to sell batteries. I'm not. I don't get any of 431 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: that money, um, you know. And it's I'm not going 432 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: to retire on selling batteries to a customer anyway. But 433 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: my job is to keep people safe in their car 434 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 1: because just like in Paradise, just like in Thousand Oaks. 435 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 1: I mean, here's a life and death situation. You depend 436 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 1: on that car to be reliable. Um. You know, I 437 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 1: never want to put anybody on here that wants to 438 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: talk about, Hey, I was the one guy that got 439 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: eighteen years out of a battery. I don't think that's 440 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: a valid argument. I don't think that's a conversation. To 441 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: have people depend on their vehicles, not just for transportation 442 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 1: and and and and pleasure, but it becomes life and 443 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 1: death at times to get somebody to a hospital, to 444 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: get away from a forest fire, to get through bad weather, 445 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: to get to go see a loved one, who's on 446 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: who's who, who's sick or ailing or passing? You know, 447 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: it's it's it's serious stuff. And I've got to think. 448 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: And I was. I was talking to Tom about this 449 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: before air today. We were we were because we expected 450 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 1: your call. Obviously, what happens to all those cars was 451 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: start stop technology. That we're sitting in the traffic right 452 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: trying to leave um Paradise and and Thousand Oaks, And 453 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: how many hours were there? How many hours were the 454 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: traffic jams? Tim It took five hours to go seventeen 455 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: miles um for many many people were talking. Thousands of 456 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: people experienced that. Others got out early, so late that 457 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: they didn't have to wait that time. But when I 458 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: woke up that morning, my house faces south, I could 459 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 1: see there was gonna be a problem, and I went 460 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: to Costco to fill up. I only had a quarter tank, 461 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 1: and other people were doing the same. Well, the people 462 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: up in Paradise didn't have that luxury because the cell 463 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: sites got burned up and the GPS didn't work, and 464 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: the pumps went off because the main lines were being 465 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: shutdown or coming down, and so now you're in trouble. 466 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: Of people were driving convertibles that morning. I a woman, um, 467 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: a friend of a friend. Uh. Her hair was catching 468 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: on fire literally, you know, from the embers coming down 469 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: and burning through the roof. She had to abandon her car. 470 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 1: She got picked up by a guy in a rock crawler. 471 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 1: It wasn't even street legal. It's like a Toyota where 472 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: they jack it up. There's like a spider, big suspension. Yeah, 473 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 1: and people escaped on go cards. This is the kind 474 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 1: of emergency. It was BMW motorcycle and sidebags um uh. 475 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: Harley Davidson's I mean, harves, it was get out, it 476 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 1: was get out any way you can. And I suppose 477 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: no amount of auto maintenance could really get you prepared 478 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: for something like that. You know, it's it's it's easy 479 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: to look back now and say, all right, everybody that 480 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: got their vehicle out, Um, you know, change the air filter, 481 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: change the oil go through, because I can't imagine all 482 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: the ash floating through the air and being sucked into 483 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: the engine and sitting in traffic five hours to go 484 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: seventeen miles. You know, that's that's seventeen minutes at sixty 485 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 1: miles an hour here in Jersey. If you get up 486 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 1: the sixty, if you can get the below sixty, depends 487 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: on which road you're on. They're trying to kill you 488 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: at eighty. Um. But you know, it's it's the point 489 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: becomes it's it's very important to be ready with the vehicle. 490 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: And you know, if you want my opinion, there's no 491 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: way you can you know, tim, there's no way you 492 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: could circumvent imagine a disaster like that happening. But you know, 493 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: when I was a kid, when I was eleven and twelve, 494 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: and I was a boy scout pack you know, fire 495 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 1: patrol um flaming arrows is actually what we were Uh, 496 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: you know, it was all about being prepared. And you 497 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: really got to be prepared for something like this because 498 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: you never know when it's not gonna be, you know, right, 499 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: and you've got that moment to get the vehicle, you know, 500 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: safe and ready and and and my concern is there's 501 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: too many people out there that think like this fella. Hey, listen, 502 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: you know he wants to run his batteries eighteen years 503 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: before he changes him. It's a Cummins diesel. If it 504 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: doesn't start, maybe it's in his driveway, maybe he's running 505 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,719 Speaker 1: around his backyard. You know, maybe it doesn't matter for him, 506 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: but for the person that's got to get the pregnant 507 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: wife to the hospital or or the or the hurt child, 508 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 1: or go pick up their kids at school. Um, you know, 509 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: it just it just it just doesn't make any sense. Hey, Tim, 510 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: stay put, I'm gonna I wanna talk to a more questions. 511 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: Let me pull over and take a pause, and when 512 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: we come back we'll finish this up. I'm running any 513 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: in the car. Doctor. We're talking about the recent fires 514 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: in Paradise in southern California. We'll be back right after 515 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 1: this Don't Go Away came first resisting at the Father 516 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: and It's in the Fingers was the summer of sixteen. Hey, 517 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 1: welcome back the Car Doctor. We are talking to Tim 518 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: from Paradise, California. We've turned into a little bit of 519 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: a mini interview talking about the tragedy out there, the 520 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: recent campfire, and um, everything else that's going on in 521 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: southern California. Tim, you know, from an automotive perspective and 522 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: the the the the tragedy of this at a human 523 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: level is beyond my comprehension. I think a lot of 524 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: us we just we just can't really imagine what, you know, 525 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: the magnitude of this. To wake up one day and 526 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: walk out your front door and they say it's it's 527 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: it's like armageddon happened right in front of your house. 528 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: You know, you start thinking about from an automotive perspective, 529 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: My question is, you know, how many cars didn't make 530 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: it out? How many cars need to be replaced their dealers, 531 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: you know, like car dealerships in order there had to 532 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: be car dealerships and orto repair shops in the way 533 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: of these fires, right, these buildings that were damaged. There 534 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: were a couple of DUS car dealers up there. It's 535 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 1: northern California by the way. Um, some of them burned up, 536 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: some of them didn't. There was uh a few commercial 537 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: locations that that survived. You know, the HP took two 538 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: hundred cars off the main drag um that had ceased 539 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 1: to run. And and and I kind of wanted to 540 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: pick your brain on what do you think maybe one 541 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 1: car stop running, another one not, you know, ruling out gasoline. 542 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: And people said their car installed, not ran out of gas. No, 543 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: very few of them mentioned, you know, get that gas 544 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: was the cause of the cars stopped running. I've got 545 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: to think that the biggest issue is just air intake. 546 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: And you know, if gasoline was available and the car stopped, 547 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: it's gonna come down to a couple of things in 548 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: my mind. Cleanliness of the air. Uh, there's only so 549 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: much contamination a mass airflow sensor can take. And there's 550 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: only so much dirt an air filter, even brand new, 551 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: can hold back. You know, after a while, it's gonna 552 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: become saturated to a point that it just can't it 553 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,239 Speaker 1: can't do it, and it's gonna be overcome. And then 554 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,959 Speaker 1: you've got to stop to think it would be interesting 555 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: to see of those cars that stopped. What were the 556 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: maintenance records on them? How well were they maintained, If 557 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: they had air filters in them or recent air filters, 558 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: were they good quality air filters. A lot of these 559 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: things come into play, uh you know, and then we 560 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: get into what was the overall condition of the electrical system, 561 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: the charging system. How well were the batteries taken care of. Yeah, 562 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: that's another thing about batteries, right, not to beat, not 563 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: to beat the horse dead, but a battery in a 564 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: vehicle today is not just for starting. It's an electrical reservoir. 565 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: It it you know, when the charging system has access, 566 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: it's a place for the charging system to use as 567 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: an electrical shock absorber so there's no surges and spikes 568 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: in the system in a sense, so that it protects 569 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: the electronics on a vehicle. I mean, a lot of 570 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: factors come into play, uh you know, But listen, it 571 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: still comes back to what they said to me, Like 572 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: I said before, you know what, be a good scout, 573 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: be prepared. It doesn't take much to be prepared today 574 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: when it comes to an automobile, and I realize it's 575 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: not in everybody's budget, and and that's unfortunate, and you know, 576 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: how do you work around that? But the fact is, 577 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: it seems like natural, natural tragedies are getting to be 578 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: a more common thing in the world we live in today, 579 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: and we've just gotta be We've just gotta be better prepared. 580 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: I'm curious from a car collector point of view. I 581 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: I you know, not to turn it into this, but 582 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: you just wonder how many collectibles went up, all right, 583 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: I mean, never mind the tragedy and not not to 584 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: minimize it, but the tragedy of the human loss of life, 585 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: but um, you know the collectibles, the collectible cars that 586 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: didn't that didn't get out, and uh, you know things 587 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: like that. You just start to thinking about it from 588 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: so many angles. Um, you know, the loss of the 589 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: tragedy like this creates. It's it's just it's just a horrible, 590 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: horrible thing. I can't I can't imagine it, and then 591 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: I can't you. As a closing note, we talk about 592 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: start stop technology. So what happened in that seventeen mile 593 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: five hour escape. If you were in a late model 594 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: vehicle with start stop technology, start crawl twenty ft, shut off, 595 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: start crawl ten feet shut off, start crawl two feet 596 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: shut off? How does the car survive that? And and 597 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: you know, and and to me, that's why I think 598 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: the start stop technology it's another reason why I think 599 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: it's a problem, because it's not going to be a fire. 600 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: You know, it's not gonna be a fire every time 601 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: it's We recently had snow here in New Jersey and 602 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: our governor did such a great job of prepping the roads, 603 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: like the New York governor that, Um, the normal twenty 604 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: minute commute turned into five six hours for a lot 605 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: of people because the roads weren't prepared and everybody was 606 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: sitting in traffic and nobody knew how to get anywhere. 607 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: There were no plows out, there were no salters out. 608 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: And how many people in start stop technology vehicles that 609 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: start stop, start stop. It's not good for the car, 610 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: it's not good for the battery, it's not good for 611 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: the starter. Ultimately, it's not good for the pocketbook. And 612 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: that's you know, Um, which car would you have taken 613 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: the Senti to money Cardinal or your new family car 614 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: you just purchased if you were going to drive out 615 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: through the inferno? Boy, I gotta tell you. That's a 616 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: tough call, um, only because I wouldn't want the money. 617 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: Let's see, I guess it would have to be a 618 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: which car that I want to leave behind? Um, I 619 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: don't know. I'd probably stay and go up with the cars. 620 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: I don't think I can make that choice to him. 621 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: I really couldn't. Uh, you know, I really couldn't. Man, 622 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: I'd be that dope that wanted to stay back with 623 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: the water hose and try and protect the compound. So 624 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: I was curious enough. I went to the Walmart evacuation 625 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: center where the cars of people that that didn't make 626 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: it to a hotel or anything, where they all gathered initially, 627 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: and I saw some quote unquote beaters. The earliest thing 628 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: that went out. The guy towed a trailer around with 629 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: the nine up truck. Well, you know what, and it's 630 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: those things. It's those things from the past that, Yeah, 631 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: you gotta wonder anything from the fifties. Tim, I gotta go. 632 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: The clock's gonna take me. I appreciate the call, brother, 633 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: be safe out there and keep us posted on the 634 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: events to rebuild that portion of California. I'm ron any 635 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: in the car, doctor. We'll be back right after this 636 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: welcome back the car Docry five zero zero the number. 637 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: You know, to go back to Tim for a minute. 638 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: We all you know, I don't like to let the 639 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: gas tank go below quarter tank in any of the vehicles. 640 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: I'd like to start looking for the gas at a 641 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: half a tank because you don't know when there's gonna 642 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: be a problem. You don't know when you're gonna need 643 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: that full tank. I guess the fires in California, I 644 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: don't know what maybe seeing southern California, but northern California's 645 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: Tim corrected me. You know, the fires in northern California, 646 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: we're such a magnitude. It's it's not a common every 647 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: day occurrence. But it doesn't take a forest fire like 648 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: that to create the problems. And it really kind of 649 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: comes back to being prepared. You know what the boy 650 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: scouts were right, They they you've got to be prepared. 651 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: You got to be a good scout, and that that 652 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: could be something as simple as just making sure the 653 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: gas tank is full, uh, you know, before the weekend 654 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: or before the end of the day, or before it 655 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: gets too low or whatever your timetable is. And you know, 656 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: to do regular car care and maintenance. Um, the Car 657 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 1: Care Council. By the way, Carcare dot org. Carcare dot 658 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: org has come out with an eight page car care 659 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: guide and it's free f R E. This is writing 660 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: Tom Ray's budget. Um, he can afford this for all 661 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: this Christmas shopping. UM, A free ad page car care 662 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: guide from the folks at the Car Care Council. Get 663 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,439 Speaker 1: out the car carcare dot org to get copies of it. Um. 664 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: You know it'd be great for you know, to put 665 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: in the blog compartment of those young drivers or for 666 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: the families, so that, um, they're aware of what it 667 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: takes to properly maintain a car, to be ready for 668 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: whatever befalls them in in this world of ours, and 669 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: to be safe. Thank you for being with me this hour. 670 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 1: I'm on any of the car doctor reminding you good 671 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. A young one, she was 672 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: so